EFAP Order #66 - Full Breakdown/Review of Star Wars: Episode 9: The Rise of Skywalker
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Setuptisms, liking RoS, Fishy Cats, & Jays fursona
04:00 - >JKs poop dimension & pacing
06:07 - > Advent Calendar
08:09 - Ros was bad? Wow Patrick Willems!
14:46 - IHE Resolution & Ryan v JJ
19:22 - Test Screenings troubles & Leaks of Lost Movie
27:08 - What could have been & Safe SW for family men
Scene by Scene RoS(Force Feelings Implied)
32:10 - 'The dead Speak! Tell everyone.', Snoke Clones
44:03 - Wayfinders, Directions to Palpy
49:11 - Heavy 'Intelligence' & Poor Po is not Rey, Trackers
59:32 - Rage in search, Moonwalk into battle, Holocrons
1:03:26 - Walk around S-Cancer & getting to Cool Planet
1:09:36 - Nukes on Amazon, Lea Copy & Paste Scenes
1:16:57 - Palpatine Skype voices Middleman, Jedi Juice
1:22:00 - Get New Snokes!, Balance of Force Charts
1:27:20 - Palpy wants Rey & it makes him so Fly! Dyad
1:32:47 - Force Raising, it goes up! Magic Sistems, Force CGI
1:42:35 - Money, Fortnite in SW Lore, Fallen Order
1:50:23 - Finn, Rey & Po, Lying eyes make the OT Irrelevant.
1:57:17 - Floopy Wire, TIE fighters with trackers, Light Springing
2:05:45 - Casualy Floating Ray, She trained!
2:11:03 - Force Ghosts Limitations, Why Alive? More Training
2:20:55 - Repaired Helment, Red is Bad, Darth Ochie
2:28:16 - Rushed Character interactions & Missing Arks
2:38:43 - What was a Mith? Silent Ghost Luke
2:47:27 - 1 HP Falcon, Friendzoned Rose
2:54:07 - Cool Knights & Hux Irony
3:00:39 - SkypEXpress, C3PO was the best
3:09:49 - Overly Peaceful Festival /Cinematic Gish galloping
3:17:33 - 2 in a Million Quicksand events & Dio
>Jay Kicked, too tismed to continue
3:26:16 - >DasBoSchitt Arrives, Is TLJ or RoS worse? It's Dense
3:30:20 - Medieval Lighing, Knowing Snake Worms & Healing
3:35:33 - Shad on Force Healing, Reading Worm Puzzles
3:48:17 - A Story to be forgotten
3:52:19 - Oldman Chewie dies? Nah. Rey Runs fast
4:07:25 - Zorii Bliss likes Rey Sue, gives her a Pringle
4:13:38 - McMuffins #s & Definitions, 1000 Planet Bravery
4:22:44 - Droid Freewill & Up? They don't go UP now!?
4:30:12 - >Halfway, Rey in Kylos Bedroom
4:38:16 - Spy Hux & Grandpappy
4:49:08 - Force Calls & Specific Knife Shape things
4:59:19 - Light Skipping Rules? Ewok Movies
5:03:04 - Chewie sensing /Independent Stormtroopers
Halfway Point
5:10:43 - Operate anything /Spelunking /Deathstar surfing
5:22:03 - Double Lightsaver /Lea Croaked
5:30:27 - The Guardian /Healing /Skype Rules /Imaginary Han
5:43:25 - Deathstars Everywhare, It's a Mess
5:51:43 - >Critical Drinker Leaves
- Luke Ghost Mistakes & Leas Jurney
6:04:01 - C3PO Disrespect /Dio's Map /Rules For Spacebattles
6:13:28 - Bring Horses to a Spacebattle & Towers
6:21:35 - Palpy Sepuku Rules & Kylo Helps
6:30:36 - What was Worse? Packed RoS
6:32:25 - >Fringy Leaves /Palpy Fight & Audience Reactoin
6:40:16 - Unearned Payoff & Only Apathy is Left
6:47:32 - All Jedi VS All Sith & Palpy forgot the lights ON
6:57:41 - Rey can't die, but Kylo can /Full Bucket End
7:04:04 - Rey Skywalker
- End of Scene by Scene
7:07:17 - What was worse? /The damage
7:25:22 - It's about Family /Most inconsistant Character
7:36:14 - What is next for SW?
7:38:36 - Superchats - This Stream /Mundane Matt
- Expectations /Hux /One Word
8:25:48 - >Metal Commander Leaves
Doing the Don's work, son.
I wish there was some way to repay you sir.
It's not much..but take my like sir.
Fucking awesome
..... Are you a God?... let me at least offer this Like as a sacrifice towards you my good lord....
Korriban. Is. The. Sith. Homeworld. Not this stupid ice planet that breeds star destroyers
Remember back when Bioware was still good, and the gave the Sith a deep and complex philosophy that raised them above the mustache twirling cartoon villains they usually were(even if KoTOR still made many of the Sith and Player's Dark Side options comically hammy and over the top types of evil)?
@@RipOffProductionsLLC They still do make them interesting in the mmo. It's just the movies that cant be assed to making them relatable.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC I mean surely JJ had a team of people he could ask about the sith history?
Would have been interesting if instead of Palps the villain was a force ghost of Darth Bane, but then it looks as though Palps is interchangeable with any number of villains in this film.
Like they could have slapped Darth Mickey into this film and it wouldn't have even made a dent.
From a terrifying and mysterious ruler, calculating and ruthless, powerful beyond any real comprehension, intoxicatingly evil and over confident to an incredible but justified extent, to a throwaway villain whose main goal resembles a mix of Marvel movie villain and ghost possession horror movie trope all in one.
Storytelling at it's finest.
@@M4dM4n96 The film's only seem to think there is exactly one sith lord at any given time. Revans rule of two was a guideline not a universal truth.
It seems the only thing the force can’t do is make Rey an interesting character.
@Max Outrage Or let KK hire directors who understand logic or consistency in storytelling.
Or teach JJ Abrams how to end a story.
sick lol
Thats how powerful Rey is. She transcends the deus force machina
Force it in
just a reminder that rey couldnt sense that Chewbacca wasn't on that ship she blew up which was right infront of her, yet she was able to sense him on the star destroyer. merry christmas
You just spoke on something I was wondering about! I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I’d actually asked why Rey couldn’t sense Chewie was still alive if she’s otherwise so massively powerful in the Force!
I even gave some wiggle room by asking if she’s supposed to be at brute-force (no pun intended) moves but lacks skill with subtler ones. (Though the healing skill seems to undermine that.)
But your confirmation that she was also capable of sensing him in other situations wipes that explanation out even more completely. So...even when they do limit her power in some way, it’s _still_ inconsistent and illogical. Geez. And of course she still is able to use that power other places...because...”reasons,” to quote Shad on much of how this plot operates. 😆
@@AhsokaJackson Because fuck you, play with the dangling keys, dammit!
She learnt sith lightning by complete accident and no effort but didn’t sense Chewie through the force. And this movie got 58% on RT!
Well to be fair the dark side clouds everything
chill9871 Happy New Year.
Peter: Hi I’m Peter Parker!
Rey: Rey Skywalker.
Peter: Oh we’re using our made up names. I’m Spider-Man.
You mean The Human Spider
@@anthonykeller1957 I love 'The Human Spider' moniker
Lol
Green Goblin: "Oh, so we're using our made up names, Spiderman!"
clever
So basically Palpatine was like:
Attention
I am going to launch a sneak attack on the entire galaxy next Monday, 12pm EST. Be there or be square. BYOB
Emperor Palpatine (yes, *THAT* Palpatine)
And he sent the message via Fortnite
"Don't forget to like, comment, and obey. #DewIt"
Vic Vos I’d join. Mostly because I’d assume our ships could fly upward.
@@vicvos3766 they shoot shooting Stars palpatine Edition at planets
"They tweet now?!"
"They tweet now!!"
So Luke could have literally done nothing and stayed on Tatoonie. Rey would just save the galaxy in 30 years anyways.
Glenn B if anything it may have turned out better for the galaxy as a whole. The empire was brutal, but they had method behind it and maintained some form of order resulting in a loyal patriotic base on many worlds the first order just kills indiscriminately and caused chaos. The rebellion succeeding may have saved a few worlds that would have been targeted by the Death Star, but I doubt it matters given the chaos that must have been caused by the empire falling apart, the republic being destroyed by the first order, the first order then running riot, and then the galaxy apparently being in a state of no government after RoS. Given the amount of time that would have the pass before Rey would become a factor in a galaxy without Luke its actually possible the empire may have liberalized to some degree (thinking in terms of how long running dictatorships such as the Soviet Union eventually liberalized) if not in some form actually removed Palpatine from power from within.
In conclusion the empire was the best possible leadership for the galaxy and its destruction at the hands of Luke and the rebellion was actually the start of a chain reaction of massively destructive events as seen in the sequel trilogy that only happened because Luke existed.
Saved the rebellion from falling/failing at that moment...
Tatoonie
@@monkeyinapanzer8805 Yep. The First Order are the secret good guys and the Rebellion are the secret bad guys. Thanks Disney LucasFilm.
Rey: I am the avatar, and you gotta deal with it!
"why didn't her lightsaber explode with all that lightning?"
"Obviously, she bypassed the compressor"
Lost it
Timestamp?
Timestamp?
@@zeroclimberchannel timestamp?
Ahsoka Tano killed an inquisitor in the books with by exploding his lightsaber mid fight
@@CH324_ timestamp?
“At the end, the Solos are dead, the Skywalkers are dead and the Palpatines win.” LMAO THANKS DISNEY I HATE IT
Yes.
When 7 nerds talking for 11 hours is *_far more entertaining_* than a 2.5 hours, half billion budget Hollywood film...
😂😂😂😂😂😂👍
Correction, 12 hours
Pieminator
Correction, 7 chads
Correction: 1.2 BILLION budget
And doesn't drag as much
Rey saying she's a Skywalker because the Palpatine name is evil is like Luke calling himself a Kenobi because the Skywalker name is corruptable
Hahahaha fuck, it’s true 😂
IT JUST GETS SHITTIER THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
Seriously, I've heard so many people say it's not as bad as The Last Jedi, but honestly, from the revised leaks and the spoilers and the reviews, it's a worse story that's only less offensive because there are so few beloved OT characters left to shit on. Throw in growing apathy, and you have a story that is worse but tricks you into thinking it's not that bad and blaming it all on the previous movies.
@@ElectromagNick I haven't watched TLJ or RoS but just from this stream it sounds like there's one major reason why RoS is better.
KONO DIO DA
@@PunkZombie1300 IT WAS ACTUALLY I, _D-0!_
@@ElectromagNick It's definitely worse than TLJ, on the basis that TLJ still, somewhat, works as a Sequel to TFA. It doesn't as a Sequel to all other Star Wars movies, but neither does TFA really. But TROS actively works against TLJ. I hate TLJ, but you can't just try to ignore if for the whole trilogy. Especially not the way they did it. People were only joking when they said they would be fine with it after TLJ.
I mean...imagine if the MCU tried to actively call Iron Man 2 + 3 and Thor:The Dark World null and void.
Kylo kissed Rey and died from embarrassment.
That's the same thing that happened to Rose.
Rey actually kissed Kylo
Ah, so she kiss-raped him? That would induce suicidal thoughts.
Force Kiss most op Force power .
@@Crowbars357 Sexual Assaultment.
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be convenient
Yes.
Cocaine is wonderful...
*in Commander Zavalas voice*
Indeed.
"We could talk about this movie for 12 hours"
-Rags before talking for 12 hours about this movie
If only they went on for another 13 seconds.
CrashTestRocket N Shortman bad
@@an8strengthkobold360 Five minutes and 13 seconds?
@@an8strengthkobold360 5 minutes and 13 seconds to be precise.
The Force is the most inconsistent character in the Sequels.
and thats saying something
Go home, The Force, yer drunk! :D
After The Last Jedi the Force is a slut. It'll put out for anyone.
Clever Comment TFA, Han: “That’s not how the force works.”
ROS: “Han was wrong. The force can do whatever you want it to do.”
Keep in mind the force is female.
The saddest fact about this trilogy is that Palpatine somewhat won in the end, he succeeded in wiping out the Skywalker Bloodline and the galaxy is back to square one all over again.
Was palpys goal ever wiping out the skywalkers and resetting the galaxy to square one? Feels like his goals were sort of the opposite...
Creamy Sheev always comes out on top
There's no proof he didn't enter REY after she died
@@TheGruspastej They were until Disney decided they weren't and in this reality he wins.
Not to mention his bullshit reason for coming back. “The dark side of the force is a pathway Bla Bla Bla” if that is true then he is still technically alive.
Old lady: “Rey what?”
Rey: “Rey...Palpatine”
Old lady: “You mean like old Sheev? Heh, back when I knew him, we had a nickname for him. *Creamy Sheev,* if you catch my drift.”
Rey: “...Grandma?”
And thus Rey finally finds the family she had been looking for all this time. Not in her parents, but in her grandmother.
Harris: I’m not even lying, that is a much better ending
zornrl Honestly, I’m incredibly proud of it. Somehow it manages to be a better ending both ironically and unironically.
It’s a more emotionally-impactful ending despite being intentionally stupid. It shouldn’t be possible.
@@HarrisBoe Well when what you're parodying is incredibly stupid, the impossible becomes possible
Creamy sheev becomes canon 10/10
Harris : it "subverts the expectations" of the audience. Everyone who hates this ending but loves TLJ is a hypocrite, wonderful
The unbridled rage is gonna be fun.... And 2039 is gonna be fun when the first part of the critique will come out
guess it wouldnt be long man without a long wait
Braden Merriman hes still on the got rage vids
Braden Merriman i miss wolf
I'm will to count this Livestream as the MauLer unbridled rage for TRoS.
@@LiquorJim this is just the intro, part 1 of 5. 😆
The final fate of the Skywalkers... victims of identity theft.
Jokes on Rey the Skywalkers were at best total failures. She would have been better off taking the name of Smith.
@@jacquelineking5783 Who? ;)
After they fucking die too no way to get it back 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what shit films thank God this isn't cannon
IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE REY!! MILLIONS OF FAMILIES SUFFER EVERY YEAR!!!!
literally..they killed han luke leia ben so this palpatine could be the hero?..what?....the prequels story and executin legit make this storyline and execution look like shit ...I can't believe someone enjoys these last 3 films more than revenge of the sith or attack of the clones..on a fundamental level those films are better star wars films...hell phantom menace too at least on first watch....its fine on first viewing but rewatching it maybe not
. Luke made out with his sister
. Kylo kissed his aunt and/or cousin
. Palpatine wants to get inside his grandaughter
This family has an... interesting relationship.
Gonna keep the bloodline pure
That's what these guys think
My memory is bad, when did Kylo do that?
DISNEY FAMILY VALUES BTW.
@@aislingyngaio oh oh damage control will cum soon
+@@kaisatron5358 When he kissed Rey, but thats a bit technical because while Palpatine CREATED Anakin by manipulating the midochlorians, he isnt necessarily his father.
I rewatch this vid, and still always manage to laugh at the
"When Rey heals him, she's perfectly fine... but when He tries to heal he kills himself"
I'm rewatching it too. One of my favorite EFAPs for sure.
"They don't know which way is up!" always puts a smile on my face :)
Ha me to its actually really really funny
the fact it's EFAP #66, just makes it so much better
I'm rewatching and that part is just hilarious. They couldn't help themselves but make it so Rey is so overpowered something that can kill an experienced force user like Kylo doesn't even affect her.
@@Arko777777 that won't ever be forgotten lol. The don't know which way is up is just a hilarious concept.
The Last Jedi was the death of Star Wars. The Rise of Skywalker was the funeral where the grieving mother jumped onto the open coffin and hysterically shook the body trying to convince us it’s still alive.
Nah ... the death already started with TFA, where Jar Jar Abrams started the disrespect for the fanbase and showed he doesnt know how to write a story.
The Phantom Menace was the death of star wars. Attack of the clones was the doctors trying and failing to revive the corpse, only for the dead body to shit itself on the table. Revenge of the Sith was the botched funeral.
The Force awakens was necromancers stealing the dead body and defiling the gravesite. The Last Jedi was them raising it from the dead and completing it's defilement and The Rise of Skywalker was that resultant zombie falling to pieces while lurching around the graveyard.
The half-corpse of Palpatine in the first part of the movie is actually a metaphor for the state of the saga.
Edda233 Hardly. Most of the Star Wars universe we now know of is based off of the prequels. They are integral as the foundation for the Star Wars universe. They didn’t actively fucking kill the world building like the sequels, they expanded on it.
dude stop pissing on the prequels I grew up with that and the og trilogy and I love them both. Like yeah they are Fucking cheesy as all hell but I can sure as hell remember so many quotes from them than the sequels.
They didn't want to spin the star destroyer because they thought it wasn't a cool trick
They should have tried spinning, that’s a good trick
It just wouldn't be pod racing
Do a barrel roll!
@WhoLover - "Use the boost to get through!!"
Honestly now I’m beginning to appreciate young Anakin. “You should try spinning, that’s a good trick.” He actually said something smart for once! He predicted that the assault troop would land on General Pryde’s Star Destroyer!
Shad is correct, OG TIEs were meant to be cheap and mass produced, no shields, no hyperdrive. Xwing cost is wayyyyy more than a Tie as they have shields and Hyperdrive.
Makes sense. The empire has no value for vat soldiers, resistance values every man.
It’s also a result of a difference in war doctrine.
The empire is everywhere, has bases on most planets worth a damn in the entire galaxy, and a massive armada of assault/carrier ships from which to launch and base fighters, as well as the resources to replenish any losses.
The rebels are constantly on the move, all their safe ports and bases being so far-flung or hidden, with few to no planets providing official support. Their fighters, and, really, all their ships have to be rugged, reliable workhorses that can act independently of any support.
But now TIE’s have hyperdrive and nuanced world-building is the big ghey, so fuck it all I guess.
I don't know if I would call it a lack of world-building in this case. There were several experimental versions of the TIE's that did have hyperdrives and shields during the Empire's reign, including the TIE/D Defender and the TIE/D Defender Elite who'm Thrawn attempted to mass produce.
I mention those two specificly since there are appearantly two versions of First Order TIE's who took many design features from them.
Ryilan My point is that how the TIE’s and X-wings functioned was, intentionally or not, consistent with and reinforced what we were told about the factions in the films and that strengthened the world-building in the older films.
In the new ones it’s just “Okay, what do I need this piece of tech to do for this particular scene to work?” with no regard to how it slots in in the overall world. Take the dreadnought from TLJ, great example; littered with AA cannons that we’re expected to believe aren’t designed to hit fighters, inexplicably has no shields, and exploded from a single bomber’s payload. Why would the First Order design and build such a thing and use it the way they do?
It boggles the mind and brings us out of the story rather than informing it, thus bad world-building, unlike the very clear and clever stuff in the previous films.
Ah, I think I can see where you're coming from. If the only thing you've got to go on is the films then it would be pretty jarring if the TIE's suddenly appeared with hyperdrives on the screen without any explanation from where this change came from. Hence bad world-building.
I suppose that's why it wasn't jarring for me, since I already knew there were TIE's that did have hyperdrive.
1:02:00
Jay: "Shad, you're the swordsman. How practical is that?"
Drinker: "How practical is moon-walking in medieval warfare?"
Man I love these guys.
Amen.
I seriously struggled to stop laughing at that point just non stop material for them to meme.
@@Kernwadi 1k plus comments on this channel Jesus Christ
@@Darkestsheltz It's probably over 2K at this point, but YT stops counting after 1K.
@@Kernwadi wow
Some guy made an ELEVEN HOUR response to my Space Wizard movie oh my god
Oh, sweet Jeb Jeb Abrams. You truly think the response will be ONLY eleven hours?
Long is not good
@Turtle Anton
You’re absolutely right. Long man bad.
No no. The last one was the Space Wizard movie. This one is serious business since Patrick didn't like it.
@@vadandrumist1670 He just watched it wrong.
The timing actually made this video EFAP “Order 66”
_A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one_
Do you think they banged out semi-filler episodes just to do this
@@afelias
not really, all recent streams are over 6 hours, which means you couldn't put 2 of them up into 1 massive episode since UA-cam only allows 12 hours of streaming.
The only bad part of this stream was they missed the super chat referencing order 66 😂
@@Neo2266. only allows 12 hours....but then there's those channels that are somehow streaming multiple things on the same channel for hundreds of hours on end. Music channels for the most part but during the past 2 British Speed Weeks, GoodWood livestreamed the entire week 24/7 somehow and the video at the end was in the hundreds of hour range. That got deleted afterwards though but i've saved one of the music ones to a playlist that is also multiple hundreds of hours long that was a livestream. Only thing I can think of is premium lets you stream longer and upload longer videos.
Edit: they blocked the super long music stream.....but it was 4,474:59:02. For some reason it's not hidden like other unavailable videos are on playlists.😕 channel is nightride fm tho
@@Leotheleprachaun They allow a 12 hour recording of a stream. Anything longer gets pieces of it chipped away.
That’s why EFAP caps their stuff at 12 hours
Kylo self-identifies as someone who’s father forgives him, for killing him.
Trans-apologia
It was one of the Anime moments. Where the main character sees his dead friend or father next to him.
Spencer Whiteway
Genuinely hilarious
@@berthein5476 Except most anime moments of such kind are usually make more sense
@@sammydray5919
Begone, weeb
Remember when something as stupid as Palpatine publicly announcing his plans to mobilize an armada was something we’d only see on a Robot Chicken sketch because the idea was so unbelievably idiotic it was perfect material for parodies?
Oh ya I 'member!
Parody and satire is dead
Pepridge farm 'members
Imagine if Hitler hacked Soviet airwaves a day before the surprise attack and announced to Stalin that Operation Barbarossa was going to commence in 24 hours.
I saw a russian Officer Tweet about which Village his men would be attacking in a few hours the other day.... went as well for him as it went for palpatine XD
What an absolute frantic mess of a film. It can never sit still for more than two seconds, desperate to throw so many plotpoints, locations, or new characters in the audience's face they have no time to digest any of it. Wasting Ian Mcdiarmind for something this terrible should be considered a war crime.
Is it better than TLJ? Honestly, I don't know. Does it even matter?
Jawa Jawa Abrams was using the 'ol razzle dazzle. Didn't work at all.
It's better than TLJ for sure.
@@lieutenantnomad9198 worse movie but not as damaging to the SW universe
@Fleer Ultra that doesn't retcon and damage fundamental forces of the universe though like tlj does like gravity, space, and how hyperspace works. That damages all the previous movies, not just the OT. RoS damages the ot story and ruins that sure, but isn't as damaging overall.
Even if you hate The Last Jedi, you have to admit that it's a better put together movie than this.
If red is the color of communism and yellow is the color of bananas, then surely an orange lightsaber would be the color of a banana republic.
Nice
Yellow is also the color of piss , the lightsaber is the color of a pissy republic
True.
In the animated shows Yellow lightsabers are carried by the Jedi Temple Guards aka Jedi Police
RGC2005 for a lot of us, yellow lightsaber means you’ve mastered or tapped into your skills of the force and yellow were used by Jedi sentinels . Then she just pulls it out yelllow . No explanation how she has a lightsaber after Luke spent a whole movie saying the Jedi should die and “helps” regardless even though he’s supposed to be the last jedi even though Rey exists
“Why do you put the address of the planet you are from on your murderous assassins knife??”
“To return lost property”
😂
"Hello, are you Sheev Palpatine? I came to deliver a Dagger that you lost....straight through your Heart!"
No duh.
The ships not knowing how to go up implies one of two things:
1. The pilots are too dumb to realize up is the direction of their ceiling
Or
2. Palpatine, for lols, buried a few of those ships upside fucking down.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHHA
They spent years upside down, hence the confusion
That would be a funny sketch
Captain:"Just pull up!"
Navigator: *Nervously touches the controls*
Ship crashes back into the planet
Palpatine: "Hmm... we're going to need a fix for that..."
It's not even a matter of going up, just go any direction that isn't towards the ground.
A lot of criticism about this movie can be summed up in one quote:
"That's not how The Force works!" -Han Solo
and he was easily the best part of The Force Awakens-not _saying much,_ but...
@@harrambou9468 Because Harrison Ford is awesome.
@@TheSlammurai yes sir
Exactly. And basically nothing in this film makes sense. Including completely ignoring basic irl physics, common sense and in-universe physics. It’s so retarded it loops back into itself to fuck itself further.
They already stated that "Force is female". Which means it doesn't work AT ALL.
"It's finally over. We did it Sam, it's over."
-Frilgo Jaggers on RoS.
"I'm glad to be with you, Babu Frik. Here at the end of all things Star Wars."
- B(ilbo)-B(aggins)-8
“I can see Tattooine, Han. The Hoth base. Endor. The ewoks’ fireworks, the lights, the party tree.”
- Frodo Shirewalker
"It's over? It's over." -Sonic
kingnish Indeed I can! We’re all quoting lines from the end of The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, which are said by the protagonist Frodo Baggins. Using various ridiculous takes on the names Frodo Baggins and Bilbo Baggins (i.e. Frogo Jaggers) is a running joke in the EFAP community going back to one of the very early episodes. In that episode, someone they were responding to quoted Bilbo Baggins, protagonist of The Hobbit, to make a point.
Therefore the joke is to make up basically any quote (doesn’t even have to be from Lord of the Rings) and attribute the quote to some variation of Frodo or Bilbo Baggins.
Look Mr Poe, the X wings are coming.
- Gan-Finn the White on Black.
Bury Anakins ‘s lightsaber in the sand...
Doesn’t he hate sand?
It’s course and rough and irritating.
And it gets everywhere!
anakin's force ghost: i hate this planet it killed my mother
luke's force ghost; it's the thought that counts.
@@megamike15 Anakin: Why couldn't she burry it on Naboo?!?
@Lobster Cult High Priest Darth Jar Jar: Now meesa gonna take control of the whole big Galaxy!
Qui-Gon's Forceghost: I doubt that, Jarjar.
Jar Jar: Massah Qui-Gon?
Qui-Gon: The one and only. You might take control of the Galaxy, but you won't be happy with it.
Jar Jar: Not?
Qui-Gon: Oh no. I saw your Robot Chicken Sketch. My Haunting will drive you into Madness. And if I can't do it, then HE will do it.
Jar Jars father:You Idiot.
Jar Jar: Dadda?
Mr. Binks: You were the biggest Mistake of my Life!
*ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT REY DID SOMETHING WRONG???*
@@severalcakes3267 Her very existence was a crime
So if Hitler had a grand daughter who helped defeat him after he came back from the dead, would she change her surname to Churchill or Roosevelt?
Close... the answer is Stalin. Thats as hollow.
@@RyanCFoster
Hmm...yeah but Stalin became the next big bad...which is more like snoke...this is getting complicated.
@@RyanCFoster good point. Comrade rey sounds better
Churchill, Roosevelt did nothing while Winston was an inspiration to all of the allied forces and kept Britain in the fight when the AXIS war machine bore down upon it.
Look at the number of divisions the Germans had in the west vs the east then tell me stalin didn't win the war
So i figured out the 2 Main Themes:
*1.* C3PO has to decipher the Sith language. But he has a build in censore protocol that gives the villians much more time and almost kills our heros.
*Theme 1. =* Censoring "hateful language" is bad and dangerous and works in favour of evil. #the1st
*2.* The galactic back up of civilian ships saves the galaxy and defeats evil that the gov. failed to even take on aka became the gov. force for many systems.
*Theme 2. =* We need a armed populace to defeat evil where it has grown and keep the gov. acountable. #the2nd
J.J. Adams dropping Redpills like McMuffins.
I clapped.
Beating a freed slave with a burning cross lightsaber was based.
JuJu is /ourguy/?
You Sir, are brilliant. I'm saving this to my computer and committing this to memory.
Wow, I suddenly like The Rise of Skywalker.
"JJ dropping redpills like McMuffins" is going to become my presidential motto for GDELB 2024
I can’t believe the amount of people that are not just defending these movies, but legitimately think that they’re amazing. Don’t think, just consume.
Bearded Bjorn “Sleeping slaves”
“War is peace”.
Uhh They live also fits the them, objectively so.
@@lonewanderer1328 The thing that makes me LOL is when they call me a fanboy for criticising the films, being completely unaware of the irony.
@@WrathofFenrir99 fax
If anyone wants a true Sequel Trilogy, either read the Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn or play the Jedi Knight games with Kyle Katarn (Dark Forces II, Mysteries of the Sith, and Jedi Outcast). They portray the characters as they should be years later, and don't make the new characters overshadow the old ones because of poor writing.
Otherwise the old republic is a much more interesting time line where both good and evil are powerful instead of under dog stories over and over
@@sagacity1071 till they write over those too...
I completely agree, even Zahn's new trilogy isn't particularly good. The destruction of the EU is still felt throughout the whole of Star Wars.
Legacy of the Force is literally the Legends sequal trilogy.
Takes place 40 odd years after ROTJ, Han and Leia's son falls to the darkside, he's working with a darksider who can bridge people across space and time with the Force and is connected to Palpatine, Luke gets super depressed, and it has a massive space station capable of firing across the galaxy to destroy planets.
But that series handles it all infinitely better.
@@corruptangel6793 Eh, I wasn't a fan of LOTF because of the authors' differing writing styles. Personally, the OT heroes' storylines ends at NJO for me, then I go straight to the Legacy comics.
I find it depressing that Disney killed the EU because they wanted filmmakers to have full creative freedom without having to worry about mechanics introduced in comics and books and such
Only for Johnson and Abrams to made it harder than it probably would've been thanks to hyperspace tracking, lightspeed skipping, force dyads, all sith and jedi inhabiting one body and motherfucking fuel.
Fuck these films.
they decanonized solely to steal the ideas without giving the writers of the eu credit. all of these ideas are bastardized
I like the idea that they decanonized the EU just to put their writers on easy mode and they still failed to adhere to the simplified rules this badly
@@fronthal157 Bingo. You can see the corpses of the EU paraded in the sequel trilogy.
Films are films, I agree.
Fun fact, all of these ideas exist in EU. Disney just took them and made them worse.
Re: Joke
Old Lady: Who are you?
Me: Rey. Rey Fund. I want my money back.
Who are you?!
"Rey, Rey Tarded"
I see Rey saw this movie.
Rey Nbow 6 Siege
Old lady: who are you?
Me: Rey, Rey’d Shadow Legends
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko lol
The important questions in Disney starwars
Episode 7 : why was Luke silent at the end?
Episode 8 : where do we even go from here?
Episode 9 : *wItCh WAy Iz uP* ?
episode 10: what is the number 10?
episode 12: .
13: hi
Episode 15: Which Franchise Is This Again?
@@jwc-lw3sp episode 16: I shit the bed again.
it's weird it's called the skywalker saga since:
Prequels: Palpatine's rise to power
OT: the rule and banishment of Emperor Palpatine
Sequel: resurgence and final fall of Palpatine, while ensuring his bloodline maintains preeminence in the galaxy.
so i mean, shoot a couple of scenes while Ian McDiarmid is still alive, slot them in and re-edit all nine movies and you've got a weird experimental tristam shandy-esque nonolgy about the rise and fall of Sheev Palpatine
They go over this. Can probably skip OT completely
@@JoshuaKevinPerry I'd love a timstamp for that. That was the moment that they realized, even more so, this story is fucked.
Joshua Perry
Or skip the sequel and get a better experience
The Epic of Palpatine. This generation's Iliad and Aeneid.
I am confident that the dagger thing is a leftover from George Lucas' suggestion.
In the Mortis arc in TCW, there was the "Dagger of Mortis", the only weapon capable of killing the Father, Son and Daughter.
I bet you JJ wrote "dagger" on a note when he listened to George's suggestion and just left it somewhere, and by the time he decided against it, he forgot what the note that says "dagger" even referred to, so he just included a dagger for no reason.
Y'all got a towel or anything?
"How practical is moon-walking in medieval warfare?"
Shad, if that's that not the NEXT video you make, God have mercy on your soul xD
You'd be burned at the stake for witchcraft, obviously.
"Ye gods, he walks forward but moves back!"
@@smolgobbo3826 Yeah I mean Jesus walked on water and look what they did to him.
Time stamp
It did make it into Moo's 2 hour rage haha
The prequel trilogy is un-ironically better than the Disney trilogy.
Not really
Yeah it is as this point, the sequels have rendered the OT entirely pointless.
@@Darkness1984 the amount of plotholes in the Prequels can be counted on one hand whereas the sequals have plotholes in the double digits. The amount of big plotholes alone are numerous in the sequels whereas there's only 1 big plothole in the Prequels: Padmé death. The characters make logical decision based on what they know (for the most part) whereas the decisions made in the sequels are almost entirely forced by the plot. And the Force isn't broken. TK for example works the way it was explained to in ESB, unlike in the sequels.
For these reasons alone, yes they are better. Objectively at least. Whether you like them or not is obviously up to you.
@@corruptangel6793 The prequels have flaws, but any flaw you can point in the prequels, the sequels also have like X5 lol
@Jason Moore Those movies aren't good but compared to Disney star wars they are relatively great movies
6:15:57
"But sir! Which way's up?"
"Spin! Just spin!"
"How do I spin?"
"HOLD RIGHT!"
"Which way's right?"
"FOR FUCK'S SAKE, FRANK!!"
I'm surrounded by Assholes!
"Guys it my first day"
See the ground down there? Go the opposite direction of that.
Best moment
@@williamcronshaw5262 WHAT DOES OPPOSITE MEAN???
Disney completely nuked 6 star wars movies with this one film. The fact that palpatine didn't die at the end of episode 6 means that the original trilogy as well as the prequels were simply meaningless.
People are saying "No the other movies aren't meaningless!" But they won't give a reason how that's at all possible
Only if you think disney Star Wars is Star Wars, not imo, Disney Star Wars isn’t in the same dimension as the OT and hopefully they will use the veil option to delete them and try again or just let it finish, when it should’ve after ROTJ.
@@916hayabusa They should have stopped after Revenge Of The Sith.
@@chasehedges6775 yes, as much as I didn’t like those 3 prequels, they at least were in the same universe and followed the same rules, as the first 3.
@@916hayabusa You can hate the first 2 prequels but I hold ROTS in very high regard
Here's a minor thing I noticed. If you watch earlier movies, Jedi are very sparing with their lightsabers. They do not typically walk around with them on - they frequently leave them until the very last second. Watch Luke fighting Vader the second time in Return of the Jedi, every time the fight pauses he turns his saber off. Meanwhile Vader leaves his on the whole time - in fact in the original film he has his on when Obi-Wan finds him, clearly having stood there for some time with it on.
I always liked this because it's a subtle difference between the two - the Jedi are not wasteful with their sabers, they use them only when they have to. The Sith use theirs at the drop of a hat.
It's really noticeable to me that Rey in this movie uses her saber frequently when she doesn't have to. She runs through the forest with it lit, she uses it as a torch, lights it when she doesn't have to. It's a small thing but it jumps out at me every time I see it.
Obviously the sequels won't have subtlety like that when they can't nail basic character development
Interesting observation, but I think you might be generalizing a bit. Vader didn't even touch his saber during the Blockade Runner boarding at the beginning of ep 4, and he was really pissed off during that sequence. In ep 5, he only flicks it on to deflect Han's blaster, and I can't remember another time he turns it on in that film outside of his duel with Luke. If he was really saber-happy as you say, you'd think he would be using it to intimidate and threaten people more often. I don't think having it turned on when he confronts Obi-Wan means much in tis regard; he was anticipating a saber duel and came in on the offensive. If you thought you were about to swordfight someone, wouldn't you get your own sword out before hand?
As for the prequels, I don't particularly recall the Sith characters using their lightsabers in excess compared to the Jedi, but I admit my memory of those movies is weaker.
Gotta sell that sweet, sweet lightsaber merch
This film could’ve been so much better if Rey turned out to be evil
@@TheRealJabbergeist I agree with your evaluation of the original post, but did Vader even use his saber against Hans blaster? I seem to recall him using his hands to block the blaster bolts and then force pull it from Hans hands
I can't wait for all the reviews from the people who liked TLJ, but hated this one. In particular Patrick's and MajorLee's seeing as how they said so many things that can be thrown right back at them.
Major"You Get To Look At Wahmen"Lee
They touched fingers...
It's hilarious. So many back peddlers
Rey was so powerful she made the emperor want to become a girl.
Emperor Palpatine is transgender.
Chris Remag shiva palpatine
@@gub4941 Sheeva*, Lol Mortal Kombat.
Sheev: This robe is engineered perfection!
Rey: It will be... when it fits a woman.
Sheev: *internal screeching*
1:21:27
"We can talk about this movie for 12 hours."
Aged extremely well.
“And that’s his [Abrams’] strategy-it’s like, ‘If I just keep this moving quickly enough, people won’t have time to think about how stupid this is.’”
The ONLY way he could make it "work" without "normies" realizing in the theatre that the movie is terrible.
Well, that worked on Moviebob apparently!
The moviebob approach, damn you, Diabeto
Muck006 Even the normies would hate it if the movie was slower.
I got blocked by Patrick Willems on Twitter. All I said was “Yes it is.” when he said: “That’s not what I said dummy!”
I wonder how he would cope with someone criticizing IRL
Dude is extra salty because he became the very thing he criticized, then got mad that people were throwing his own rhetoric back at him. His meltdown on Twitter is absolutely glorious.
Seeing all the TLJ ass kissers get their sacred cow undermined...it's just priceless
Who the hell is Patrick Willems and why should you or anyone else care? Don’t use twitter.
Raymond Reviews I wonder if he’s going to take the video down... since it proves that yes... that is what he said... work for word... in the exact same context in fact. He even held up a big sign with it written on it...
You’re just watching movies wrong, as the themes here could only be seen using reader response theory.
Jebalita BattleBush the lore is strong with you
The narrative tripling is strong with this one.
They didn't play enough Fortnite to understand the full lore.
Instead of. Watching i will. Use the term. Verbs. Instead
I prefer Orphan Response Theory.
Rebels take over a planet destroying ship, blow up the Emperor, he's found another 40 years later with even whiter eyes on an even stormier planet
Hank J. Wimbleton this time he has a army of planet destroy ATATs and then later when he dies again he comes back with planet destroying storm troopers
Pizza Time yea, Death Stars are gonna become mere sidearms next.
@@pizzatime4700 LOL!!! That's perfect! And after that, he can just destroy planets with his electricity.
Rebels: "How did you escape a 400-foot fall, being blown up twice, in outer space with no ship nearby?"
Palpy: "The Ways of the Sith have long led to powers that some might consider...going 'up'."
@@Smerpyderp they'll become AR-15 attachments
Rise of Skywalker can be summed up by a quote from the famous Captain Price:
"It's not hard to improve on garbage."
Exactly! A couple of redeeming properties do not make a satisfying film or end to a trilogy that is utter garbage.
"If Disney lives, and we die, their truth becomes written."
William Costigan death to the mouse , get your cheese and traps ladies and gentlemen
@@williamcostigan91 that's pretty accurate with Disney's treatment of the old expanded universe
TROS just broke Shad...and it was hilarious
Yet very sad
@@theserpent6070 Very *Shad* eh??
Haha
Disney: “He didn’t die before, but he’s dead now!”
Audience: “Oh, okay. ...You sure?”
Yup! MauLer nailed yet another problem Disney just created!
@Shadow Hawk Not unless we can make more toys.
@@mechanicpluto2430 except rose who can't come.
When Kylo lands on exygol, he’s using an old tie fighter from the death star, it’s a different design to the first order ties, different paint job. The old ties don’t have hyperdrives like the first order ones, so even if he got one that was working after twenty plus years in the ocean, he’s still stuck in the Endor system.
MY GOD, my love for weird facts makes this even better
Nah, it was Palpatine's personal Tie Fighter, which possesses the maximum possible pinnacle of hyperdrive technology, the ability to instantly teleport anywhere
@T00NYBOY it still worked after exploding and being in the middle of an ocean for 30 years
I remember before End Game came out, I stayed off the internet to avoid any kind of spoilers or leaks. And now with Star Wars, what was once my favorite franchise, I haven't gone to see it on opening night and I could not care less about spoilers. How far Star Wars has fallen makes me sad.
Don’t let one bad movie ruin an entire franchise for you, brutha. TROS is excellent. You should see it.
Don't let it bother you, that's like letting bad Harry Potter fanfiction ruin Harry Potter for you.
These movies are literally nothing but fanfiction. In the official Canon at this point in time after return of the Jedi, Luke Leia Han and Han and Leia's children are balls deep in fighting the Yuuzhan Vong war. It's a great story, if you are interested in finding out what happens in official Canon then I suggest you read 'The New Jedi Order' series... But before that you should definitely read the thrawn trilogy and the X-Wing series so that you have a good grasp of the backstory, although that is not totally necessary to understand what is going on during the time that these movies supposedly take place in Disney's alternate fanfiction universe.
@@captainrednek9301 It wasn't just one movie that ruined the franchise for me though. When The Last Jedi came out, a snowball effect happened and everything went downhill for me. I'm glad that you still enjoy Star Wars though bro. The sequels just ain't for me.
@@captainrednek9301 yikes
@@micfail2 Although it's nice to think that the sequels are fanfiction, because they certainly are written like it, the truth is that these movies are canon. They are direct sequels to the original trilogy, as trash as they may be. Lucasfilm has control over this and has made the Extended Universe non-canon which is a shame. But as a guy who never got into the books, I suppose I should read into it. Maybe I'll start off with the Thrawn trilogy since I hear nothing but praise about it.
Execute EFAP 66...
There. I made the joke.
Yup, so did at least 30 other people in the superchats alone...
EFAP is to big to be execute
I don't get it... Is this a reference to Baby's Day Out?
@@krissuyx yeah, thats definitely it. What else could it possibly be?
AnIrishMusician Palpatine: *slams desk* What did yah bring me?
Alright, this stream was a good, brief intro as to what was wrong with Rise of The Tisms.
Now for the next 20 EFAPs to explain it in detail.
Can you imagine Moviebob's take on this? That video is going to kill so many EFAP guests, I guarantee it
@@scottski02 MovieBob will launch into a metatrans narrative about how failure is a valid goal, and fans should love JJ for that.
Yeah for some reason he says it’s fine then gives it 8 out of 10 and then goes on to say so little of substance I can barely remember anything from that video
@@lordinquisitordunn336 Which is hilarious coming from Bob, cause I know for a fact he hated the JJ Star Trek films
@@butthz8850 doubtful he will try to turn the movie failure on the fans
This episode of EFAP is so much fun to revisit. So many good things and jokes came out of this. It's not just good rat. It's VERY GOOD rat.
I come back to this episode for background noise so much you have no idea lol
@@aidanlarimore4391 an excellent idea
I can't stop coming back this stream is just brilliant to listen to while I'm doing house chores or anything trivial so freakin funny.
I agree. That's a smart comment right there! 😅🤭😉
i guess you could say that the movie was an aTROSity
Nathan Alamdari Best comment 😂
It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
That joke had more planning than this trilogy.
I’d rather say a monsTROSity. Don’t have to change the spelling of the word.
CARLOS!!..
“But what you’re forgetting is that the Force-!”
“No! Stop it!”
I personaly hated TLJ more, just because at this point I had still hope and expectations in Disney Star Wars. I had no hope for TROS.
After TLJ, any attempt at a further Star Wars movie was always going to be doomed. There was nowhere coherent to go after TLJ.
I feel the exact same way. TLJ set the bar so damn low that it was nearly impossible to be disappointed by TROS
@dig duck Agreed. I thought the ideas (many stolen ideas too) made this trilogy impossible to take seriously.
At least I felt like there was SOME attempt to fix TLJ here
Same, that movie angered me so much & let me down & so I didn’t really care about TROS because I knew it would be pretty much incomprehensible.
Came back to this gem. The Disney sequel trilogy is exactly why people should’ve given George constructive feedback instead of hate. The man pays attention to detail and created the most iconic and legendary world out there. The prequels had terrible dialog but were fantastic worlds and a time to explore. They got way too much hate.
Hopefully someone can save this franchise in the future.
"The man pays attention to detail and created the most iconic and legendary world out there."
Forgot aboot J.R.R. Tolkien?
It's probably beyound saving at this point.
@@Leotheleprachaun no I don’t think he did
Exactly. The sequels could have been at least as good as the prequels. We’d whine, they’d be cheesy, but ultimately they’d be like eh.
Instead we have world destroying sequels
@@countof3everybodyOD Agreed. It’s a shame Lucas felt the need to sell the franchise to Disney.
Palpatine wanted to live out his true fantasy of becoming a teenage girl.
Also easy way to describe this movie: Old Sith Lord wants to get inside his granddaughters body.
“Finally, I have the power of the coochie!”
Kommissar_Kalcium But what about Ootchie’s cootchie?
Rey's vagina is a direct portal to the Force-Force, which is like the speedforce, but for the force. That's why Palps was so keen on getting her body.
Palpatine should have just gone to Japan 😂
PALPATINE: Kill me so all the evil spirits of the Sith can live inside of you.
REY: I was just going to before you said that, but... maybe not.
Remember when being cut from the force was a big deal in KOTOR 2 and then it turned out people can't cut each other from the force and that a planet being wiped out caused such a gigantic force backlash Exile became a wound in the force? Which is why Jedi didn't participate in the war against the Mandalore? Which is why "millions of voices suddenly silenced" turned out to be an actual hazard for Jedi? Remember when Chris Avellone respected lore with his spin off prequel material more then Disney?
Good point! The star killer base shot in tfa should have lacerated Ray's mind with all those souls
That's not canon anymore.
@@Ubermensch9240 Nothing is canon. Except for canon. Bitches love canons.
Admittedly, the Exile is a special case. She creates force bonds as easy as breathing, and did so with most of her troops. When planet went boom, all of her troops died, and the resulting backlash forced her to cut herself off to avoid death.
#PepperidgeFarmsRemembers
TIE Fighters don't have hyperdrives. Hyperdrives are expensive.
TIE Fighters were made to be cheap swarm units. Cockpit, Engine, 2 Lasers. Nothing else, not even internal athmosphere.
TIE Fighters have no armor (down in 1-2 shots), no shields, no missiles, no hyperdrive. They are dependent on carrier ships in the vicinity. There were already more expensive units developed that had all these various gimmicks (TIE Advanced, TIE Defender) they could have used here instead.
Exactly. With Palpatine’s doctrine TIEs were supposed to be the AKM of starfighters. Cheap to produce and effective enough en masse to be viable.
Yet we never really saw a swarm of TIE fighters in the sequels :'(
@Deedless Deity
It’s because JJ doesn’t care about Star Wars.
If he cared, he’d know a Tie Defender for the FO would’ve worked and made more sense -_-
Why would Star Destroyer need a bigger cannon to destroy a planet? They can just bombard it with Heavy Bombs they carry, annihilate all life on it, then reuse the planet for resources...
Exactly for gods sake Darth Malak did that to Taris 2,000 years ago
Every year or so I revisit this EFAP, its timeless
It's almost touching how bad the plot is. I swear JJ couldn't write anything non-contrived even if his life depended on it...
I think Abrams might be my most hated writer in all of fiction. Yea, Johnson is a douche, but Abrams is such a fucking unimaginative rip off artist it's insulting that he keeps getting work.
Sadly there will never be a time when Jar Jar or Ruin will sit down with a critic and talk about the -plot- plotholes and the tiny bit of -sense- visuals inbetween.
As much as I hated the last Jedi I will at least give Rian Johnson points for trying to be different. Yes he failed miserably and pussed out of his only interesting thing with Kylo and Rey, but he gets points for having some artistic integrity. JJ Abrams is the most dishonest, manipulative, art thief out there.
@@jamesmoseley5428 I would have agreed at first but what could JJ have done with whatever Rian dumped on him ?
Let's say you're in charge of episode IX and you have to go by Rian's leftovers, no retcons, no huge time skip and no flashbacks. How do you even follow up TLJ ?
@@silvergrove8517 I can get what your saying as Rian screwed up the foundation laid by JJ no matter how shit I think it is but this doesn't change the fact JJ at the end of this decided to go fuck it and blow the house up. Your job becoming a bit harder to fix the thing due to an asshole does not excuse shitty writing.
“It’s _all_ stupid. It’s just beyond stupid.”
...Why, yes. Yes, it is. 😄😅
It is so OBVIOUSLY STUPID that there can be no other explanation other than ... *MALICE!*
That quote should be canonized!
This isn’t just stupid, it’s...
ａｄｖａｎｃｅｄ
ｓｔｕｐｉｄ
@@onnixcarmichele3911 We are facing _quantum stupid_ lads.
Sure, this a timeline in which not only was Star Wars lore ruined, but it's also canon, but there is a silver lining.
And that's that TLJ apologists are gonna regret being all smug and annoying in their opinion pieces which they called reviews, because all of their idiotic arguments can now be used against them.
And it's gonna be fun using their own quotes against them.
I don't wanna tell you you're watching movies wrong.... But you're watching movies wrong. Also how can you hate a movie made for children with wizards and magic.
“This is a movie about wizards in space”
Thomas Walsh And seriously, I thought the point of fandoms was to appreciate the good in things, not criticize.
@@Maine03 ... It was a joke dude. It’s a meme, same for Thomas, we know those are garbage arguments, that’s why we are mocking them by repeating them sarcastically. It’s EFAP lore 101 at that point ^^
@@nathanjora7627 imm hold dat L den
Crazy how tons of people just like me are still re listening to this over and over
My 5th time
The chemistry between this lot and the jokes they make are pure gold
This is easily one their best not because of their presentation of criticism or criticism quality but just how funny and entertaining how well everyone and everything flows just so many people it all worked so well
@@WolfbroaAgreed. I put this one on while working.
Something I noticed when watching the movie. Plapatine does stop using force lightning during his battle with Rey. Rey continues to use force lightning on her own. She kills him with force lightning she's herself creating. A darkside power fueled by hate. She strike him down with hatred. Papatine should have won. But, everything in this movie is inconstant from the characters, to the technology, to the Force.
@C. A. Cunningham
It’s funny how every sequel realization makes the movie worse :P
Then we look at the prequels and, while there are dumb moments, most realizations are about how good the plot and character work actually is!!
Take how nobody ever says they won’t leave Anakin and keep his promise. He loses Qui Jon, his mom, Ahsoka, Padme, and Kenobi!
All would express their care/love, but never anything about sticking by him. Only Palp stuck by his side.
Then, decades later, his son comes out and Anakin tries to reel him in with the dark side which fails.
Luke comes back preaching the light that failed Anakin. Turns out though, that light makes his son not give up on him. Anakin’s son sticks by his side while using the light. Then, Palp is about to take away his last chance to do what’s right, so Anakin acts, doesn’t push his son away, but saves him.
Then, when he’s dying, Luke says he won’t leave his father. Anakin finally got what he wanted in his son staying by his side and not abandoning him. Anakin can die in peace and Luke is the hero, not just of the Galaxy, but for his father as well.
Honestly, Lucas told a Shakespearean epic with the plot of all 6 movies. It’s a real shame KK couldn’t dictate a proper sequel trilogy.
That explains why Rey didn't seem to care all that much about Ben dying, then. She just leeched the last of his force energy and got out of there.
She was reflecting
So...I've been a fan of Shad and Drinker for some time now.
A few years back I discovered Wolf and through him, I found Rags, Mauler and CJ.
This EFAP right here? I can die happy now.
I wonder, how much fuel Palpatine needs for his new Star Destroyer fleet...??
That is yet another example of how Disney screwed the pooch by trying to erase established Canon. In official Canon it was made very clear that large spacecraft are powered by reactors that are essentially the equivalent of today's nuclear aircraft carriers. In canon, not Disney fanfiction, only smaller ships require fuel because they are not large enough to house the sort of reactor that capital ships use.
he was probably planing to use the force or something.
@@micfail2 I think a bit beyond equivalent. Nuclear reactors in ships today can last incredibly long but hyper matter reactors last possibly forever. It was only smaller ships that didnt have the space to have one that needed to refuel, the fact that they can run out of power brings up so many problems that now need to continuously be adressed
@@adrianoippolito1999 that was exactly my point. The only reason I did not mention hypermatter reactors specifically is because I didn't want normies to get confused... However, correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot recall anywhere that it is made clear whether or not hypermatter reactors have to be refueled. I had assumed that they would need refueling at some point because, you know, the laws of physics, but I could be wrong. Hence my comparison to today's nuclear vessels.
@Jonas Bjerregaard - Brilliant!
Watching this 3 months later, audience score is STILL at 86%. Hasn't moved 1% between 10,000 ratings and 100,000 ratings...
Kari the dark side of bribing is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be illegal
Still at 86%...
@@CelestineGup *wow.* Disney is shameless
@@CelestineGup Wow... yeah... thats not suspicious AT ALL
Hm. That’s not illegal at all.
The one response I absolutely do NOT get are the people who hated TLJ but liked this film because it "fixed Rian's mistakes."
Yeah, it "solved" a few of Rian's tisms but added 1,000 more onto the pile. It actually made me appreciate how well paced TLJ was in retrospect.
Do you understand what you did JJ? YOU MADE ME COMPLIMENT TLJ! >:(
ROS "fixed" the problems in Last Jedi by trying to film a reboot of the Sequel Trilogy back to back with Episode 9. It failed.
I would completely disagree on TLJ being "well paced." Both have absolutely dreadful pacing. The difference is TLJ has way too little going on while focusing on all the wrong details, but RoS has way too much going on while focusing on nothing.
@scottski02 Oh absolutely, I should have rephrased that.
What I meant was that at least Rian took the few retarded ideas that he had and gave them the space to "develop," while JJ just throw so much shit at you, you don't have time to realise how stupid it all is.
Neither are good by any objective standard, but they're both different flavours of stupid.
This film was worse than TLJ and I hated TLJ
Our complaints were always that Disney Wars don't respect established universe. This film continues the tradition of Disney thinking it's okay to disregard past lore, rules and precedent. TLJ is an abomination and an assassination of Star Wars on the silver screen, but it's part of the universe now (unfortunately) so if you're making a sequel to it you really should try to continue the things set up in TLJ, even if it seems impossible. This is the biggest flaw (imo) with Disney Wars, and ROS continue making this mistake, especially making Palpatine come back making Vader's sacrifice seem meaningless, Luke didn't really save the galaxy, and Palps pretty much won in the end with having wiped out all the Skywalkers.
Bwahaha, they actually put part of Star Wars canon into Fortnite? I didn't believe it when you guys said it But apparently it's true. I'm guessing that banana on the wall no longer is the most laughable piece of art of the year. Just today I was talking to some friends who were considering seeing this movie. No way, lol.
They have to be shitting us. Someone please tell me this happened on some dare or as part of some bet.
We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. Just imagine what could be done with that sort of money. And they have fucking Fortnite integration. I'm all for people spending their money as they choose, but man there has to be some sort of reckoning. Is this why Islamists hate us?
This and many other reasons
@STORM LORD absolutely true
What? How?
Maybe Disney's doing this to us because they love Islam or at least maybe that's one of many reasons
You're missing the brilliance of the banana on the wall exhibit..... it was a long con.
1. Receive attention for selling a banana on the wall for hundreds of thousands of dollars and get everyone watching.
2. Have someone come eat said banana to show disregard.
3. Replace the banana, then have someone come up to remove the new banana and spray paint "Epstein didn't kill himself" in place of it.
4. Quickly cover up the spray paint with a sheet.
This was performance art. It showcased how the media would cover a story of a banana being sold at an art exhibit, but won't cover the Epstein story.
EFAP are the true disney shills. After listening to this insightful, well reasoned discussion you want to go see the film just to get the full context. Damn you, Mauler!
No don't see it in theaters!!! Watch the free (albeit poor quality cam version) available online
Yiup
@Jeff J
Stay strong. Go see it when it’s at the $5 theaters.
Idk why but I keep having to repeat "She heals and she's perfectly fine, but when Kylo heals HE KILLS HIMSELF" over and over because it's so hilarious. XD
Poor Shad. This thing is driving the guy to a nervous wreck.
He needs to be in top form. I hear the Emus are getting ready for a second war
@@MrMuxix there are rumours of Emperor Emu believed to be fatally shot nearing the end of the great Emu war still alive and mustering his army his army . Now equip with handeld field destroyer that believe to be so powerful it can destroy even the most strongest wood fence.
No one is ever really massive
@warystatue33 Massive Wars: Rise of Diabeto.
May the big gay be with you. Always.
Zonbi Chaos except Diabeeto
The Knights of Ren were less effective than Snoke’s guard
Sad
What did the knights of Ren do.
Who where they actually working for? Never find out Anything about em either😩
I’m surprised Ben didn’t just make their weapons all disappear
There it is! Congrats to the first official million of EFAP! And I can’t think of a more deserving episode to receive that honor. Cheers 🥂 🎉
Congrats Massive!
"Just spin!"
"But which way is up?"
"For fuck's sake, Frank!"
radf 9760 I was pissing myself laughing during that lol
That's a good trick!
Tower: *gets blown up*
Commander: "go to the fail safe"
Box: *on ship opens* *balloon floats out*
Commander:"that ways up"
When Space Balls has better explanations for its incompetent ship crew.
@@an8strengthkobold360 AHAHA. I was already laughing and dying of shortness of breath. your comment just made that worse
The numbers in Palpatine's navy are worse than you think they are.
The old I-Class Star destroyers had a crew around 45,000 people (46785 by wiki numbers but lets be generous and say these take less crew even though it probably should take more).
The widest angle shot I can get of Palpatine's fleet has them arranged in a grid of 10x20 or so (10-13 per column and about 20 columns, hard to tell because they kinda fade into the abyss of the clouds around the edges).
It's not that Palpatine has tens of thousands of people, he has like 9 million people in his navy, 1.5 million of which are storm trooper-esque soldiers.
@@ChiptuneDCI and the 25k were from the Hand of Thrawn Duology...and for many, including me, the 25k sound too few. Basically back then the Galaxy was smaller and so Zahn used a smaller estimate for the Fleet...
@@undertakernumberone1 I always thought that most of the system policing was done with smaller ships like Aclimators, Victories, Carracks, Dreadnoughts, etc while the ISDs where reserved for more specialsized roles like being the lead ship in a task force.
I thought he had 200000 units ready with a million more on the way...
@@ParanoidAlaskan That's the problem with a shared universe, all the authors brought a different set of assumptions on how it works.
@@Сайтамен in this case, the size of that unit is like an army corps worth of dudes
I thought JJ would save Luke's legacy: Palpatine was behind Luke almost killing Ben. Palpatine, "Skywalker let down his guard. As he looked at his darling nephew, I poured all my hate, rage, and fear into him; I was most disappointed when he shook off my hold so quickly, but I was elated at the results. He took my apprentice from me, corrupted him, so I struck back in kind. " This would have saved Luke's character, or rather, it would have at least undone some of the damage RJ did. Missing this is, along with this movie, are proof that JJ can't write for shit.
Nobody From Nowhere yeah but that makes it like Luke would be weak minded, unable to fight the temptation and control of a man he already fought in 6. But yeah that would be something at least
It’s something for sure. Another option would be to simply have Luke try to redeem Ben but fail.
Honestly if they had that scene it would have been a perfect way of fitting Palpatine into the sequels that wouldn't completely undermine the OT
@franciscoercoreca9081 his guard was up in 6, he didn't think to have his guard up that way when palps hypothetically poured everything he had into twisting his fear.
I despise every single backpeddler who thinks they can join the club, after shitting on the fans back in 2017. I can't wait to hear Mauler's discussion with IHE.
He has a lot to answer for.
IHE never dissed on the fans lol. If anything he was probably the most reasonable TLJ supporter with a big YT channel...
👍
@Alienrun
From what I remember, he was kinda hostile to the haters.
I actually was watching lots of IHE, then his TLJ video came out and I stopped watching him because of how he came off kinda dumb/arrogant.
Granted, I may be being a bit harsh :P
@@FuddlyDud If you watched his follow up TLJ video you can see he was quite chill about the whole thing, he even apologized for a joke that might have came off as "too offensive" even tho most bystanders probably didn't care.
I'm not a big IHE fan by any stretch, I watched most of his old videos and then moved on with my life. But I will be consistent in saying IHE never directly dissed any SW fans...
Don’t be so up your own ass, if someone doesn’t like this then they don’t like it, it’s a full story, if the wrap-up isn’t good it makes sense people who liked other movies in the trilogy would change their opinion
Funniest thing to me is that every review I read from people that liked the movie all start with "I know lots of people disliiked this movie, but here's why they're wrong", it's almost like they can't make a honest review of the thing without first trying to discredit everyone that disagrees with them, nah?
It's almost like they're special snowflakes who feel insecure about their own opinions and want to drag everyone else down just to feel validated :3
Because the facts aren't on their side and deep down they know it
Just like TLJ!
No no no. It’s always “Ignore the 1 star reviews and all the haters. This movie isn’t a 1 or a 10. It had a ton of problems and made no coherent sense, but at the end of the day, it exists and I clapped. I give it a 9/10, but really you should just ignore reviews and go see it for yourself.”
@@spooplegeist5260 "Just ignore the bad stuff, and it's good!"
Remember when obi wan had to sneak around the death start because Jedi aren't gods, they are just normal people with small abilities
But its Rey!
I thought that was because of Darth Vader
@@partialbullet2215 Well yes he no doubt sensed Vader was present, but he probably did not want to raise the alarm either, for his own and the others sake. Order 66 showed quite clearly that even senior Jedi can be overwhelmed by sheer firepower.
Jacob
Remember, it was the clone troopers that did that, not storm troopers
@@partialbullet2215 a gun is still a gun, doesn't matter who's shooting it
Woot!! 1 Mil views!!
You guys realise that Luke hasn't won a single fight in the entire Disney trilogy? Lost to Kylo in a flashback on TLJ, lost to Rey during his isolation on the island and lost to Leia on another flashback on TROS.
This is the same guy who beat Darth Vader.
Subverted your expectations, didn't it.
@@thejemstone9219 Sure did lol
The Jemstone I wanted a good movie. I got a bad one. Expectations subverted.
Wellp he lost in Return of the jedi too, never beat vader just convinced him to be good. I do not think The Disney Trilogy is good but luke has won zero fights against other force users.
@@Catterjeeo He beat Darth Vader in a duel! Just because he let him live doesn’t mean he didn’t win.
1:21:28 Rags- "we could talk about this movie for twelve hours."
*looks smugly at the video length*
Amateur was off by 5 minutes and 13 seconds!
It only took 7 tho
Worst part is... I hate it so much just because its star wars!! Not because i am a fanboy but because its so easy to create a decent story arc for that franchise. We had video games within with better stories. 3 1/2 hours per movie over 3 movies should be enough to create something decent
Edit: Can we please make rotten tomatoes feel the backlash?? THEY ARE FAKING THE AUDIENCE SCORE TO KEEP IT AT 86%. There is valid prove on the internet.
And with all the novels (yes, even the less than stellar ones), it shouldnt be hard to just grab one or put them in a blender. It took a franchise dying for them to start sprinkling in stuff from the dreaded eeeyou
They would be, if they would have first created an overall story line for all three movies and limited what the directors can do with those story lines. They opted to do the opposite, to have each director do their own thing. Add to that an incompetent story group within Lucasfilm, that was composed of only women and you get this kind of mess.
The issue with sequels is: nobody minds a super strong luke. Because its a new universe. He goes through a character arc. He is now a character at a certain level with certain abillities. You cant just integrate a new chatacter thats better without giving some backstory. Otherwise you are undermining what the person went through before. What bothers me is that there was enough space to make 3 more movies without ignoring the rules of the universe. You dont have to make everything stronger. One death star, now we have one ship doing it, kylo is stronger than anyone, rey is better than everyone before, palpatin comes back because we f**** up. Now he can do way more than before.
It wasn't 3 1/2 hours tho
@@munat3413 sry 2 1/2 hours. Last one just felt so long
Why didn’t the Emperor’s clone look like Palpatine from before Mace melted his face? Did that lightsaber deflection change his DNA so that all clones look like melty Palps instead of regular Palps?