A man wrote a 16 year old girl getting a boob job and that's just the least of my problems here
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“You’re not just like other girls, you’re also not like other heroes, because you’re a girl with a knife, and your bangs aren’t cut straight.” Is what i want on my grave
she prob cuts her bangs with a knife. she be quirky like that
@@withcindy *Mulan has left the chat*
Same here
Same here
Why not just carve it into your bark?
"she joins a school for assassins" is such a Wattpad premise I can't-
Ciara ikrrr aaaaaa
Lol there's actually a series of books called Gallagher Girls, where they go to a spy school. It is, from what I remember, a MUCH BETTER read. I mean, its written by a woman, so we're already a step ahead of this mess.
It’s such an overused premise that it’s practically a cliche at this point. Several published books do the same thing. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that, but people have a hard time executing the plot well because they dwell too much on the edginess factor.
The sex scene also sort of screamed bad fanfiction to me too. A recurring trope on FF is "threw her gently on the bed" reminded me of the gentle assault here too LOL
Reminds me of this anime called Assassination Classroom. 😂😂😂
I’m not like other girls…I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning, I break my legs, and every afternoon, I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.
I'm very sorry to hear that very unique MC 😔, would you like some chocolate to make you feel better 🍫
@@sillysillyxinnabunChocolate? I'm sorry - did you say Chocolate?? Chocolate?!! CHOCOLATEE!!! CHOCOLATEEEE!!!!
Hehe. I see what you did there...
I'm to stupid to get this 😅
Nice writing
@@user-ooop it's a SpongeBob ref lol
I *AM* a sixteen year-old girl and I feel like I should be in jail for hearing that
Nope, Cindy should be in jail for you hearing that 😏
@@123biler To be fair Cindy described the entire thing in the title so you get what you get
Same sis, I feel like I need to pour holy water into my ears
I’ve got bleach
Same I feel like washing my brain with sulfuric acid
the author rly said: the instructor is a pedo but it’s ok because she’s pretty ✨
I-
*laughs in hidden*
*laughs in Death In Venice* First time?
Wow looks like you just statement ended this man's whole career
Gotta love how men will write a whole protagonist with the intention of being a « yass badass girlboss » who beats everyone yet see women as holding so little power overall it seems impossible to them they could be the abuser in that sort of male dominated forme of abuse. Real woke of them
And then men will use that as an example of how society doesn't care if women are abusers, even though they created it
Today on "I can't believe is not Wattpad":
YES.
Yes 👍
I love your profile pic :)
AHAHAHAH
I write on Wattpad 😭😂 but yeah this book had no business published, how did this happen 💀
is it weird that i got offended by the “beautiful like a fresh suicide” line??? like i was listening and laughing because of the weird ass writing and then that came up and i actually gasped. why do people romanticize suicide?? i struggle with suicidal thoughts/ideations and thats really shitty
Not weird at all, that line is shitty. My dude has obviously never even talked to anyone who has been subjected to such a sight. Even scenes of peaceful deaths from old age in one's sleep aren't beautiful, considering the things a human body is liable to do once it's no longer alive. And to imply that there is anything romantic or aesthetic in the sort of desperation and suffering that leads a person to end their life--that's not only disgustingly irresponsible, but shallow and shortsighted. The author doesn't even have the excuse of writing this line from the perspective of a profoundly disturbed character.
Not to mention the suffering of people who have to face a loved one's suicide. It's horrible and it tears you apart, and I'm despising this book with all my strenght.
In fact nothing is uglier than suicide nor more horrific than a "fresh" one. I get the point is that it's supposed to be "the MC's mindset", and that she's 16 and engrossed with death mysticism, but someone who thinks that something so dirty is beautiful, then the author should have owned that and made her more of a psychotic serial killer.
Offended too! I tried to kill myself as a teen, and that's just... Wrong.. Such a wrong way to describe someone 's appearance 🤢
Beautiful like a dead body is really just an insult.
Assassin School: being ugly....is a 💖💗💞💓 blessing 💕💖💗💞.....you can go 💛 unnoticed 💛....
Also Assassin School: biG TiDdY LidDy
The way i screamed 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Iron or glass? I am neither. I am sand: coarse and rough and irritating.
SAME
my vag is sandpaper
Same, i hate sand.
OooFff, I think I'm falling for you, Ani Oinkingseawalker.
And it gets everywhere
I can’t comprehend how he wrote that monologue with her smoking a cigar and thought that he nailed teenage girls
LMAOOOO idk what ur talking about i regularly go into pseudo-feminist monologues when i'm 16 while smoking a cigar
That is probably one of the worst issues of that book. He's writing a 16 year old as if she was... Well... A 40 year old guy in the body of a 16 year old girl... He failed to even consider the character.
I actually like age gap ships, I don't care about the age of the writer (after all most teenage romances are written by men and women past the age of 40) but the fact that the author wrote the girl as if she was a self insert just damaged the character.
Also... Yeah. Despite my aforementioned views, I do find it weird, not necessarily bad, but certainly weird that most teenage romances, with particularly unhealthy relationships and love expectations by the way, are written by men and women past the age of 40.
John Green is an example. This middle aged guy is basically telling teenagers how love relationships are supposed to be, and not a single example is even functional.
It's like that drunken uncle who gives unsolicited relationship advice to everyone in the family, including the dog and his very own wife.
"So he's always drinking and pestering people? Cheat on him!" Little did he realize it was his wife complaining about his habits.
Idk about the cigar, but I can picture myself going on that kind of rant as a 16-year-old. Then again, I would've been tired, and also joking.
Sergio Leonardo Cornejo Hey! I’m genuinely curious about John Green since I haven’t read how books in years so i don’t remember his portrayal of relationships. Which relationships are you talking about?
@@lunammoon8503 i mean depends. Is the cigar for the aestethic ? Anything for the aestethic.
This author is like "this character is beautiful but NOT conventionally attractive" and then goes onto list conventionally attractive features that they have like being thin and pale
They have hair, not like other girls.
With how many times Mia was described as thin and pale, I couldn’t help but imagine her as a skeleton.
@@atanvardecunambiel8917That would have actually been interesting.
And then getting surgery to become more beautiful.
@@atanvardecunambiel8917 I'm not like other girls, I'm a literal skeleton
Im not like the other igrls, my entire BODY is made out of plastic. My beauty is unrivalled, and the other girls are QUAKING. Mia is trembling. Conventional beauty standards? Gone. I have BECOME the beauty standard.
OH OH THIS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING
Namely the song "The Girl With The Prefabricated Heart" by The Real Tuesday Welds, which tells a much better story than this book does in less than 6 min.
"I have BECOME the beauty standard."
I have BECOME...a Barbie girl. In a Barbie world.
i am become the beauty standard
I wish I had this confidence
So, what, like Shaye St. John?
that description of her sounds like male poets who say "violets are growing in the shadows under your eyes" about girls who are in toxic relationships with them
NOOOOOO I HATE THAT THIS IS TRUE
DID YOU LIE THO 😭😭😭
BITCH WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT THE FUCK 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭I CAN'T 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
But they’re not violets, they’re skin, and they’ll always be skin :3
(I’ve heard the poem)
The apple of your eye grows admits a sea of lavender and morning glory
Where once before; upon the hills, only roses did bloom
Desperate pleas lie deaf upon ears of the holy
As the silence blares your resounding doom
Like this if you cry every time 😭
This book: Looks aren’t important, but Mia needs plastic surgery to unlock her full potential :/
Is this the right place to say that I would really like to see a boy femme fatale ? Like, the suprême Himbo. You can't resist his jawline and his really tight shirts and chiseled abs. Not in a "he is a mle protag so he is hot" But in a "oh, yeah, that's Chad. Fights sirtless so you Are too distracted by his 12 pack to see He has a gun to your forehead."
@@kidawesomeness123 I hate that book
@Brijae B nope
Right like this just got me
Marie Baillet ooo your comment reminds me of that big burly character from fullmetal alchemist ( something armstrong, I can't remember names for the life of me) if you've seen the show then you probably know what I'm talking about lol
That cigar monologue sounded like Jughead's weirdo monologue from Riverdale and I honestly zoned out while you read it.
i’m such a weirdo i wear a BEANIE 😧😦😮😦😬😳(👁👄👁)(👅👁👅)
I'm fully convinced that singular piece of dialogue took up like 2 pages
“i’m weird 😜, im a weirdo 😝. i don’t fit in ❌and i don’t want to fit in🙅🏻♂️. have you ever seen 👀 me without this stupid hat 🎩 on🤔? that’s weird😵💫.”
I'm weird. I'm a weirdo. I don't... *fit* in - I don't *want* to fit in.
also im wary of any “outspoken feminist” female character whos written by a man bc 90% of the time they have no clue what theyre talking about bc they have little nuanced understanding of the sexism women experience. when u read that monologue abt mia ~reclaiming gendered slurs~ and ~going off about sexism~ it just SCREAMED “im a man who thinks i know what feminists think about stuff”
So by extension, you'd rather men NOT bring up sexism or feminism when writing a character at all? Or merely that they have to take a university-level course to be an expert on it?
Daniel Broome They’re simply saying that if a man endeavors to write a female character in first person (or if someone wants to write a character who they can’t relate to) they should do research, it’s the same with every book. Consult people who shares a trait with the character so the writing doesn’t accidentally anger someone. The writer could just assume things from their friends or their family but piecing things together won’t work, what that person wasn’t directly announcing is unknown and the writer filling in the blanks simply doesn’t feel right. They should ask what they feel as a person who fits into the group they’re focusing on, what do most writers get wrong, what do most writers get right? Of course, sometimes they’re irrationally lackadaisical and research is not for them, that’s acceptable as long as they can acclimate to the indignation and odium they have caused that is pointed towards them. Their project that they have tended to for months or years is absolutely egregious because they didn’t want to put in the effort, that’s fine, they just have to live with it and if they can’t then they should’ve done their research.
@@eczemiclinkaye9088 I know i was mostly joking with them
@@danielbroome5690 idk man your first comment doesn't read like a joke, it's kinda sketchy.
@@danielbroome5690 Alright, just wanted to let you know how it hit the ear, given the fact that someone feels the need to explain, my opinion or bias isn't unfounded.
Too often on the internet they're people saying questionable things and when someone take offence they'll say "it's a joke" to avoid confrontation.
His descriptions are very:
Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that's how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!). I'm not related to Gerard Way but I wish I was because he's a major fucking hottie. I'm a vampire but my teeth are straight and white. I have pale white skin. I'm also a witch, and I go to a magic school called Hogwarts in England where I'm in the seventh year (I'm seventeen). I'm a goth (in case you couldn't tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. For example today I was wearing a black corset with matching lace around it and a black leather miniskirt, pink fishnets and black combat boots. I was wearing black lipstick, white foundation, black eyeliner and red eye shadow.
i hate that ur making me read this
It's perfect 😂
Descriptions usually written by kids is being written by a 40 year old
This took 5 years off my life
I'm CACKLING
The wierdest thing is there's literally no reason to make her 16. Like why. Just make a a twenty something who hasn't had sex because she's busy being a badass and life was hard or whatever, and the story is pretty much the exact same except waaay less uncomfortable...
She could've been 11, because in some countries children can't go to prison or they have a less severe punishment. Also, kids are passionate and ruthless, and tend to admire people who seem "cool"\ are easily manipulated. Therefore if they grow up surrounded by criminals, they'd probably gladly do all kinds of work for them.
@@sakurazukamorisubaru Mia being 11 would actually be worse. Unless you're saying to throw away all the sex scenes, in which case yeah I agree that would have been an interesting read
@@valeriarossini543 no, that was my point, that it could be worse.
Valeria Rossini I think she means that her line of thought by being 11 (I think even at 16 it can be applied cuz when we are at that age we tend to explore our sexuality) is more conditioned to do these things. It’s wrong but adds up more to the uncomfortable factor if that was the purpose of the author, which sadly and clearly it isn’t the case here
She would be to old to go to assassin's Hogwarts then.
this author told me i make "worthless noise on the internet" and it turns out he makes worthless noise on the NYT bestseller list! who knew we had so much in common 😳
THE OINKING SEA DKJFHSKJHF
His writing is so.... Well ... Let's just say that he's hardly worth being offended over lmao
"I don't know why he made her sixteen"
We know why.
I love how they managed to sneak "live, laugh, love" into a book about edgy assassins
Graça G. I’m laughing my ass off in class rn and I think everyone’s looking at me.. 0__0
“Power” yes, because being stared at by men totally makes women feel more powerful, totally doesn’t make them feel like a piece of meat.
every time i get catcalled i gain +10 power
ah yes, being sexually harassed by men everywhere I go always ups my power by 110% ✨
@@victoriaspooks1383 I mean, it sure does make me want to stab a dude so I guess that counts
I mean, like, if you're voluntarily going out looking like a bombshell and people start staring at you, or if you're a stripper and on the pole and the men are hooting and hollering but you just walk up to them like "bitch, this pussy ain't free," would that make a woman feel... powerful? Actually though, would it? I'm not exactly a woman (trans male), so I wouldn't really know, so I'm curious. Do the girls walking down the street with nothing but swagger feel powerful when a guy tries and fails to hold a normal conversation, or do they feel harassed?
Of course it gives women power! They get plus 7 on any dice roll to an attack against the offending creature!
It's like fanfiction, but worse, because it's not.
And because there are fanfics much better than this.
15:44 “you are appealing to women who want a feminist character, but you’re not alienating the men who still ogle at all the sexiness” PERFECTLY SAID. ive been trying to explain this idea for a while but i havent been able to pin it down into words. this is the exact reason why the overuse of the femme fatale trope bothers me so much.
What's wrong with not alienating men who like sexy women...
@@KangMinseok you're missing the point. The writing is shit. If you're writing for the sole purpose of fanservice, your writing is dogshit. Do you get it now?
@@schnoz2372 which part is fanservice, to appeal to women who want a feminist character or to not wanting to alienate men who like sexy women?
@@KangMinseok Because appealing to men who want a sex item instead of a real person is anti feminist
@@AleksandarBell So being sexy is not feminist and being feminist is not sexy? Since being sexy always appeals to men who like/want sex... I guess it comes down to your definition of feminism; if yours is "feminist character = unattractive to men", then I get your point. I thought feminism was about equality and freedom (including the freedom to be a sex bomb, if a woman choses so).
A woman that is forced to be modest and stay at home... well that sounds like the actual anti feminism to me.
cindy: she's not like other girls
me: *deep sigh*
here we go again
I love what Jenna Moreci had to say on the subject: "How is she not like other girls; does she have a tail?"
Jack Legend when she’s your irl neko anime waifu 😍😘😚😝😋😜💖😚💞😚💗😘😍😝💞☺️💗😘💗😚💗😚💞😋😚💞😌☺️😳😍😝💖😔😳😄😳😚💖😍😚😳💖💗💞
*n o o o o o o o*
@@withcindy mamma mia
"I'm not like other elements of the periodic table. I'm a plastic bag, drifting through the wind, wanting to start again"
-Franz Kafka, The Metamorphosis (probably)
I love Franz Katy- I mean Kafka
Oh my God XD
- Martin Luther King Jr
- Zuko from the Avatar
Katy perry song?
middle aged man writing a teen girl: okay so she smokes. not cigarettes. that’s juvenile. CIGARS. yes because teen girls just carry those around so that they can dramatically monologue. of course. idk why i don’t have a daughter, i was born to have one.
I’m so sick of female characters being written like “oh she’s so plain” *launches into description of how gorgeous she is.* Why can’t we have a leading lady who knows she’s pretty? Or-and the world might not be ready for this-one who’s legitimately unattractive? Or maybe her beauty or lack thereof isn’t relevant to the plot, so we get a neutral description of her appearance, e. g., “She was tall and light-skinned, with unevenly cut black hair and hazel eyes,” and decide for ourselves whether we find her attractive or not?
THIS. I think it's to display a sense of humility to have the character describe herself as ugly, but not truly make her "ugly" enough to be off putting to the people who only like pretty characters. But then they are never characterized properly as having low self esteem and showing the constant struggle of body dysmorphia, it's only something tacked on the end so the love interest can tell them they actually are pretty.
There’s no need for the narrator describing the attractiveness at all. We as readers can decide for ourselves if we find them attractive. The writer can also use other characters to show attractiveness. If people are all over them and flirting frequently, we can assume they’re conventionally attractive. If they struggle to get a date we can assume there’s something unattractive/unappealing whether it be appearance or personality. We can read and judge if their behavior seems weird or offputting. It boils down to show don’t tell. I don’t wanna read “MC is the most gorgeous girl in her school.” Mention some conventionally attractive traits. I want to read about how all the guys are flirting with her, she’s super popular, she’s been spring fling queen three years in a row and she doesn’t plan on her senior year being the only exception, etc. I don’t wanna read “MC is ugly.” Mention some traits that aren’t conventionally attractive. I want to notice the lack of guys flirting with her, how she’s never had a date, a guy asked her out once but as a joke, she’s had braces since grade 7 yet it’s her senior year and everyone still calls her “braceface”. Show don’t tell.
@@mummytrolls Ok but idk about using braces to express someone being unconventionally attractive tho, that just seems more like a stereotype imo. It also just depends on the person, cuz one can find braces very attractive as well 🤷♀
@@GoldenWreck Well duh I said conventionally attractive that’s based on stereotypes and shit idc if you find braces attractive or not most ppl don’t that’s the point
@@mummytrolls Well speak for yourself cuz a lotta people I know don't care if someone has braces or not 🤷♀ I guess they're just built different then lol
Mia: my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way
Dont compare Mia to the real edge Queen you might awaken the evil from the grave
Oh my god I hate that I understood that djsnsjsj
I hate I remember this
mia walked so ebony could run
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Why 16, she could've been 18 or older and went to a university
...
And it would've been less creepy
A lot of YA novels would be overall less creepy if their characters were adults. But we do it anyway, because we as a culture are ok with sexualizing teenagers.
@@lampad4549 It's the fact that the author is an adult is the problem.
@@lampad4549 Uhm "no difference between 16 and 18"? From where did you pull that shi? I'm living prove that in two years late teens change a lot. It's not unhealthy to indulge in sexual fantasy and I'll go as far as to say it doesn't matter who writes it, but HOW/in what context. As far I could tell this dude writes teenage girl as if she's his idealized woman, not in the way of "this harsh world matured mia" but as if cigarette smoking while being philosophical, killing people and having sex is perfectly natural way a teen behave? It's hard to describe, in this book his writing lacks nuance and subtlety which makes teenage characters seems impossible and tacky.
@@lampad4549 there's literally a difference between 16 and 17, never mind 16 and 18. biologically? maybe not in girls, but potentially in boys. mentally? definitely. 18 is still pretty young, and you're not magically a perfect adult or whatever. but an 18 year old can easily have a lot more experience than a 16 year old. it also kind of depends on a more exact age - if you've just turned 16, there's definitely a big difference between that and being 18 and a half. if you're almost 17, then there's not as big of a difference between that and just having turned 18.
but more importantly, a 40 year old writing sex scenes about a 16 year old is weird. especially with how it seems to be written in this book.
@@lampad4549 there is a difference between 16 and 18 biology and mentally, who dtold your brain and body development just stops for 3 whole years?
I like how Mia is told its good that she isnt too beautiful so she doesn't get noticed but later on they make her undergo the operation to make her seductive. It has the same energy as when men tell women they like no makeup but expect a fully contoured dewy foundation-painted face. Either way thank you for your videos Cindy!
Idk why this reminds me of the "Uglies" series???? Did this guy just copy that lmaooo (I know this is super late)
@@queenb2450At least Uglies was a dystopian commentary on our beauty standards. There was an excuse for surgeries to make girls more attractive.
I have such a huge issue with suicide being discribed as beautiful. It is not. It is messy, painful, sad and awful. There is no beauty. That language is part of the problem in media of romanticising suicide and mental health issues. I despise it, and the instant I ever come across that in a book, I'll take it back to the shop. Its an utterly dangerous and disgusting mindset to give out to young people.
I have many, many issues with this book just from watching this video, and I love how you've done it, Cindy. As someone who loves assassin stories, this disappoints me. For once, I just want to read about a female assassin who relishes the kill, and is sick in the head. Not all girls are morally good and always right. The sex part doesn't always bother me, if it makes sense to the story and the character. Like Natasha Romanoff, who was taught by the Red Room to use her sexuality as a weapon. That makes sense. But it doesn't always.
To me, when a character is 'not like other girls/boys', they should be incredibly lonely. But they aren't, which makes it ridiculous. Like the Doctor, who for centuries was the last of his kind, literally not like anyone else, and was lonely, without a home. That's the proper way to deal with that, not à silly, immature 'different girl/boy'.
The sex scènes sound disgusting 🤢
(Also, the surgery thing to change her appearance sounds like a rip-off of Yennefer from the Witcher)
Did I understand this right? You haven´t read the book yet, but the way Cindy presents it, which is clearly based on her own opinion and thoughts about this book, is enough for you to already have a full opinion about it. She presents it the way she feels about and that´s is in the case of "Nevernight" nothing more than disgusted. I have to say that I really liked this book and disagree with Cindy in most cases but this is her opinion. What surprises me is that you have built your own opinion about this book after watching a video in which the creator only illuminates negative things in a non-rational way.
@@admiral_kono This isn't the only review I have read and watched about this book. This comment I left was a result of all of these, and me coming to form an opinion of my own. I do not plan on reading it, for the reasons I mentioned above. I'm allowed to formulate my own views on something from my own research. If you like this, fine, I don't have a problem with that. People like what they like. I've already said why I don't like what I've heard, and why I won't read it. I respect that you like it, but because of an assumption you've made off one comment you don't respect my opinion?
@@amonrawya3064 I think every opinion should be respected and so I respect your opinion. Your comment says that you came to your opinion about the book after this video so I thought you only watched this one. This was what surprised me because I think this book review is more a sarcastic one sided entertainment than a rational criticism with pros and cons.
@@admiral_kono Her commentary is usually sarcastic, but I find her points to be very good.
What I meant in my comment is that after watching this video, I had found out all I needed to frame my opinion. It was late at the time, so I could have been clearer about that.
Yes I love going into the replies of a controversial comment and seeing rational people having a respectful debate. I congratulate you two.
Repeat after me:
Strong female character doesn't mean goth, ''feminist'', teenagers that punch stuff and talks in Tumblr.
Right! I'd argue that Barbie, Disney princesses, and 21st Century Fox princesses are empowering and stereotypically girly.
Lizi Pearl
Some yeah, others not so much.
@@lizipearlvlogs
Barbie succ, Disney great doe.
@@stormyuwu1287 princess and the pauper, fairytopia, mariposa, three musketeers, etc. Shouldn't be disrespected like this lol
Stormy uwu don’t spit on Barbie when Disney does generic “girl boss” feminism. We love and respect Barbie’s fun, girly, and active protagonists who don’t need to be a girl boss to be strong characters. Well, as strong as Barbie movies can be.
The problems start with it being an “adult fantasy” book with a main character that is 16 years old...
i think adult books can still feature main characters that are teenagers! i've liked a couple that are technically adult fiction but have a focus on teens. this one tho... iono bout dat
Plenty of adult books have main characters that are teens. A song of ice and fire follows children 12 and younger.
That doesn't have to be bad, it's the execution that makes or breaks it. Just look at mistborn, the protagonist there is also a teenage girl and that's done pretty well
@@15nicinho then what makes it adult fiction/fantasy?
"The problems start with it being an adult fantasy book with a SEXUALISED main character who is 16 years old"
FTFY
I…I cannot believe a grown man wrote an entire monologue where a young female character says, “the c word is empowering, actually” What the hell
Where I’m from it’s not even a particularly strong cuss, much less considered a gendered slur… and I still found that monologue painful lmao
He said that her legs were flying into the air and that her back was arched... Our gal need an exorcism???
He was licking out the demons lmfao
@@AdaTheWatcher NOT THIS SKSDJVOVVEUHF
Whyyyyyyyyy did he compare beauty to suicide? No sir, that is _not_ the vibe.
my depressed ass; no ma’am that is the *only* vibe
TEAAAA
i dont like the vibes here
@@madelainerowley8854 do you Want a hug, fam ?
Haven't you heard? Devastating illnesses are sexy now 😐
The bigger the Tatas, the more the female power. Hmmmm sounds like anime logic.
I’m a 46 F so I must be powerful af. Lmao
Well that certainly explains Tsunade.
There's actually a anime like that. xd
CelesKyuz what anime is it?
@@aaw4234 answer
@@khatunamezvrishvili6211 Jay Kristoff killed them before they could answer
r/menwritingwomen meets "I'm 14 and this is deep"
Love how she gets this whole monologue about how lucky she is to be ugly, immediately followed by plastic surgery and a boob job.
This guy writes like me trying to fit as many writing techniques into my essays for English as possible. I’m including 12 metaphors, 7 similes, 3 lists, 4 pieces of dialogue with abrasive tone and at least 1 description of physical setting or character a page even if it makes my blood boil like a kettle on fire in the scorching desert sun, like an erupting volcano, like the heat leaving a body after a fresh suicide
omg lmao
🎵and a partridge in a pear tree🎵
Feminist reader: Why is the female heroine so awkwardly sexualized?!
Absolutely Brilliant Award-Winning Writer: You don’t understand, she uses her sexuality to trick and murder people!
Reader: Wha-how is that better?!!
because weaponized femininity for the win
Isn’t that just The Witcher lol
@@abbyk2166 Oh god I hated that tv show so much
@@abbyk2166 can you elaborate more on this please
One of my favorite female characters is quite horny and one of her main physical features is giant tits, but she gets a ton of development and her defining personality trait is her kindness, which is so defining that she literally manipulates time in her favor to help her friends. Of course, she is played/written by a woman.
ah yes, the three genders: iron, glass and steel. nonbinary gang we finally got our rep !
tag urself i'm a plastic bag
readwithcindy drifting through the wind
cillie wanting to start again
@@sapphoslovechild do you ever feel
@@briannaabel8854 like a plastic bag
i'm sick and pale and my bangs aren't cut straight and all i get is sent to the psych ward for serious mental health issues instead of a boob job... where is the justice 😤
so true
The book: “They can give you a new face but not a new heart”
Me: but they can though.... it’s called a transplant-
The fun of words that have multiple meanings.
ah yes
the unoriginal yet still funny enough joke
Oh to be a girl with a knife whose bangs aren’t cut straight
Because she used her knife to cut them probably , since edgy people can’t get a proper haircut
Why can't she just grow them out? Like it would be so much easier to put her hair out of her face and she would not have to worry about having to cut them every now and then so that they do not obscure her vision, like wtf
oh to be an ugly-but-not-actually-ugly girl
I imagine olivia's bangs from asobi asobase
Every time they get tricked by their assassin teachers:
Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
Fool me 15 times in a row and I suspect literally nothing, how am I still in this secret cutthroat assassin school???
they all need to be expelled
But I mean imagine the potential for trope subversion ! Like,
Teacher : behold ! The mascarade invitations !
Every student : we all agree this Is a trap right ?
And then its bonding time with the team as they prepare counter measures for what their creepy cunnilingus teacher has in store for them
this some death note logic
I haven't even read the previous context and the second an instructor at a an assassin school said "masquerade ball" I just thought "Yeah nah they're gonna fucking die"
I don’t know why, but “oinking scene” gave me the same vibe as the “look at all those chickens” vine
What's killing me is that it's literally super dangerous for teenagers to get plastic surgery because they are still growing and developing you'd think an assassin school would know basic biology.
Have you not considered: protag must be sexy.
Also, I bet the author of this book considers 16 year old girls to be ‘full grown’ to justify his clear fetish for themn
Me: The clay ground was a ruddy red
Kristoff: The soil was soft like skin but firm, not letting the caked, traumatized leather boots sink beneath it. The color was near the shade of blood, though slightly off, like the sangrine of a corpse several hours old. The brownish tint giving a sense of ancientness, a kind of dirtly wisdom.
i hate that u made me read this
“Traumitized leather boots” IM SCREAMING
Dirtly wisdom 😆😆😆
I completely cracked up at ‘dirtly wisdom’
lawd. I fall victim to purple prose but even I don’t write like this dude, and thank god. It’s just. Too Much.
Top assassin advice: Live, laugh, love.
It should be kill, laugh, love 👁👄👁 missed opportunity
karens coming out
I noticed that, too! I was waiting for the 'live' to slip in there, and the author did not disappoint.
gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss
it terrifies me how obsessed “booktok” is with nevernight. LIKE, TEENS THINK THIS IS THE BEST LITERATURE OF THE CENTURY WHILE READING ABOUT SEXUALIZED 16 YEAR OLDS WRITTEN BY A GROWN MAN🥰
Fr fr. Almost read the book bc I saw people saying it was good. So glad I didn’t have the opportunity now. Have seen better written fanfics and have clicked out for smaller. Like bro what 😭
@@sleepdeprived_inc. Can you pass the fic recs?
@@mistywindow16
Hell yes. (These I absolutely love btw) Fics by Killthespare on ao3 are good, their main fics being the series “Haikyuu at Hogwarts.” The first one of that series being, “Hinata and the mirror of Erised.”
“The Land of His Brothers” by DOC_Holliday is good, but it hasn’t been updated in a while.
“TommyInnit's Services for Villains, Vigilantes, and Various Other Vagabonds” by ScorpioNoesIt is amazing and one of my favorite fics, while being the best hero au I’ve ever read.
“Whispers of Lost Reality” is a Doctor Who au done by That_One_Doc_Dragon
And a good bit of the Humans Are Space Orcs fandom is fucking immaculate. I have so many good fics, but it’s been so long I can’t remember all their titles. If remember any more, I’ll be sure to link them.
(Linked Universe fics are pretty damn good too btw).
@@sleepdeprived_inc. Wow, thanks for all the recs I'll definitely check some of these out and thanks for taking some of your time to compile this list of fics!
Not just s3xualized, he wrote an entire s3x scene. Couldn't the character have been at least 18? 😬
Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven Way, but Hogwarts is for assassins
Really amazed by how many of these fictional assassin girls train their bodies for years to become living weapons, but always remain bone-thin with not a drop of muscle mass. Must be a metabolic issue.
I guess they don't eat Enough?
I love Skulduggery Pleasant bc Valkyrie ends up Jacked As Fuck
Caelena sardothein is kinda jacked
Why are there no strong muscle women? Give me those ladies you cowards
the muscle mass is in the boobie
"Power. I have a kind of power now." Yes. The power to never be able to run comfortably again.
true story
years and years of being laughed at during p.e. :')
@@Sandy-ep4uq OMG YEAH. Like, sports bras? Where we're going, we can't FIND sports bras. *zips down road, has to slow down before ever reaching 88*
or walk down the stairs lmaooo
@@nunyabusiness776 HA yessss. Stairs are a forever no.
I stopped reading at page 50, where he describes a BUILDING as "a man whom was very enthusiastic in the ideia of having another woman in the bed with him and his wife, but comes home to find her preparing a bed for him in the guest room"... Seems I haven't missed much after that.
Cindy: *describes the girl*
Me: so she’s the other mother?
"you're a girl with a knife and your bangs aren't cut straight" I choked
so different.... so unique
I'm a girl with a knife, and my bangs were cut by me, so they're kinda crooked. *Le gasp* I'm so unique, so special
Try cutting your bangss with a knife and see if it comes out straight.
HAH-
@@M-CH_ mulan-
Katara from Avatar is always the example I give of a non-"femme fatale", powerful female character
YES!!! LOVE HER
@@withcindy Omg I love YOU 🥺
What I mean specifically is being "strong" and being "feminine" are not mutually exclusive. Katara acts as a loving, caring, deeply emotional, mother figure for the group AND is also one of the most powerful non-Avatar waterbenders in the ATLA universe.
Katara is also my go-to example of a proper strong female character who isn't a femme-fatale. I'm getting sick of the trope of a female character not being, "strong," until she's completely emotionless and merciless and most importantly, sexy.
YES MAAM KATARA IS A QUEEN
That's why I admire G.R.R. Martin. He may have not finished Winds of Winter yet but he's the only 70+ year old guy who writes 15 y. old girls so reallistically it amazes and frightenes me at the same time.
the context is different not ever 15 yrs old is the same
@@mrstrangeworld5977 ….. are you defending the subject of this video?
I came back to this review after seeing him Post a picture of a young woman's THIGH with a bit of ass cheek hanging out to share the "never night tattoo" she got. Young woman is 20 years younger and he just seems like such a little creep. Man is pushing 50. lol
NOOOOO
Come now, she was probably overjoyed that he's shared the picture. This is good fanservice.
The author could've totally played the scenario different and instead of "fixing" Mia could've used her "unattractiveness" to her advantage.
"No, you're not beautiful. You're ordinary, but I can work with ordinary. Instead of beauty and seduction, I'll teach you just how useful a façade can be. A soft voice, meek posture and you can be as lethal as any other student here. No one expects a feeble thing like you to be a threat."
There was such opportunity!!! He could've had the RANGE!!!!! But no, we get coochie blowing and anime-esque inspiring pep talks.
It's nice to see someone put my disarrayed thoughts into words.
YESS THANK YOU
Exactly, and I've seen books that do this well (Mistborn is a great example even if it's not the main focus) so it's not like this is a something completely out of the box or anything like that.
@@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 who is mistborn by? i need more books to read lol
@@Voidforged86 Mistborn is by Brandon Sanderson! The first book is called The Final Empire! Read it!!!! :D
Christ Cindy. Be careful when turning these pages you don't cut yourself on all this edge.
Is that a doki doki literature club reference....
This book is the embodiment of "I am 14 and this is deep".
I pretended she was like 23 😭 like. Just skimmed over the fact she was 16 Bc I didn’t wanna completely ruin it for myself
*This entire book is literally r/menwritingwomen*
yes it is
like the legendary passage - she titted boobily down the stairs
@@liangcruz6543 "She breasted boobily as she titted down the stairs."
Greatest line in literature.
@@muntu1221 I'm cackling WHAT IS THIS FROM I NEED TO KNOW
@@muntu1221 Lmaoooo I saw this in a tumblr post, still greatest line of all time
THAT PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE MAIN CHARACTER CANNOT BE REAL OHMYGOD THE FLESH OF HER EYES??? IF HER FACE WAS A PUZZLE???? DUDE
I cannot write but it seems excessive and Weong on so many levels .
Has he even looked at a human? 😂
It's hella excessive of a description. There's poetic prose and there's 13 year old edgy Wattpad writers trying poetic prose lmao
something never sat right with me in regards to jay kristoff. something about seeing a white author's name on a book title with chinese takeaway font, cherry blossoms, an east asian girl with a shinobi/yukata outfit that has random slits everywhere, a katana, and a dragon/koi fish tattoo sleeve...i figure these weebs for sexist, east asian fetishists. looks like i was right 😂😂
also idk if that's a jalousie window cover, but it trips me out seeing it in front of your computer monitor and i'm just imagining you narrating all this to anyone listening outside your window 🤣🤣
I hate it when authors idealize suicide by saying that it's edgey and cool. It's not it awful and sad and it shouldn't be portrayed as something other than that. Depression isn't a cool or fun thing to have, it's a terrible experience that makes you feel worthless and nub(at least that's how I experience it). People shouldn't portray it as something to aspire to. Of course we want representation, good realistic representation that shows how fucking hard it is and how lonely and broken feeling you have to be to take you own life. I just hate books like that do this, it really pisses me off, like come on pll are gonna read this, teens are gonna read this, and your portraying suicide and depression as a way to get some sort of clout. Authors like this need to readjust
As a soon to be 16 year old, I just wanna say that I can’t wait to start reciting fake deep monologues while smoking cigars.
Same,im very eager to start giving pepole random discourses they didnt ask for
Lol same
16 year old, can confirm it comes naturally. You'll never fail English class again!
i can confirm that is definitely what i did as a 16 year old
This is what I do as a hobby
This man is desperately trying to up his word count
but at what cost...
Cindy:
✨oh, to listen to the sound of pigs oinking and squealing in my ears✨
🗡️AS⚔️ IF⚔️ THEY⚔️ WERE⚔️ CUT⚔️ FROM⚔️ A⚔️FRESH⚔️SUICIDE🗡️
Me: 👂🏽👁️👄👁️👂🏽
Dude learned what similies and metaphors were in 6th grade and decided that's it.
I’m not like most girls I am actually dying from malnourishment HELP!!!!
LMAOO
Can we just talk about how she probably had to google “pigs in the sea” for that one bit?
yes i did
@@withcindy we salute your dedication
@@withcindy There were strangely enough so many pictures of this subject matter. I'm kind of afraid...
It's actually a huge thing in the Bahamas
I started to laugh at that part xdd
I don't think y'all appreciate how great Cindy's subtitles are
This shit's a work of art
alright CONSPIRACY THEORY: This guy had a hand in writting My Immortal, learned grammar and published this novel years later
I am absolutely losing my MIND at "oinking sea" WHERE WAS THE EDITOR?! WHO APPROVED THAT FJAKCKSKFK
it's a beautiful metaphor if u think about it
What sea do we know that oinks?
@The Fool wait, so I'm confused are you serious? Or just making a joke? Considering your name
@@kiera6326 Clearly you use the secret Joestar family technique!
Right up there with barking pain
Whenever I get worried about my writing and the characters in my stories, I remember these books exist and I become much more confident in everything I create.
Same haha
me
Me too :)
Yo same
Right? I have some books that really weren't worth the cost of buying them but I keep them around to remind myself when I'm in a slump that if some of those stories can get published, then my writing is probably a little better the raging dumpsterfire I think it is
It's hard to understand why some books get so popular. I wouldn't even finish a fanfic written like this, no accounting for taste I guess.
You know what I wanna see? A beautiful woman who does not care about using her beauty to distract men and only cares about focusing on improving her skills. Put the usual "has a male friend who is there to support her", but make her not "not like other girls" to point out that this character really does not care about being a strong female character, she is strong and you would know this just by looking at her actions and nothing else.
A literal subversion of every trope.
Too bad most people does not do this at all.
I...
Funny you mention this because I actually wrote something like this not to long ago for a TTRPG
It would be subvertive if she were actually ugly. I can count the story's of ugly women doing epic stuff without getting a beutification on one hand and it's f-ing sad. 😅
As long as you dont make the male friend like her its okay
The devil works hard and frankly Cindy would like him to stop
please make it stop
😂
Satan: please stop attributing shit like this to me...
Satan: Has left the chat.
I do too
lol. I hate this book so much I crave a bad tv show that I can also laugh at.
love seeing my fav youtube ladies supporting each other lol
Didn't Piera Forde make a Nevernight TV show?
@JustSeb not low-quality enough
You and I must watch the same videos because I’ve been seeing your comments a lot.
PLEASE, i want another Riverdale-style show to clown
that monologue made me remember all these girls on facebook who are like 'oh you called me a bitch? well a bitch is a female dog and thats a compliment ;)'
😊
😊
omg the whole “bitch means female dog and dogs bark and bark is on trees and trees are nature and nature is beautiful so u just called me beautiful” 😭😭😭
Wait a minute, isn't this book just a spiritual successor to My Immortal?
Think about it, you got the uber-edgy goth Mary Sue with ebony dark hair and pale skin, you got the most laughably edgy descriptions possibles for basic things, and you got overt sexual content and tasteless references to suicide.
We should get Internet Historian to narrate this shit!
I love when author's idea of a "badass" female character is abusing their poor sidekicks, nothing screams being powerful like being a bully.
Yeah, what's up with that? Do authors just not know how to write a cool, feminist female character without her being a bully???
I wish I had self esteem this man has. The way that he's able to write absolute nonsense and publish it with pride, that lack of shame. A crumb sir, I'm begging.
I wish I did too! I wanna feel good about myself lol
It's more amazing this was published and he made money off of it.
@@parkerisles7256 as an indie author myself it is works like this which made me lose all respect for traditional publishing.
The "grant me the confidence of a mediocre white man" kind of thing? 😅
@@parkerisles7256 Well he had published before, and the book is physically attractive so I'm not surprised
My boyfriend was sitting nearby while I watched this and I had to keep pausing because he was laughing so much 😂
I love the fact that we spend like half the book talking about how ugly she is but it's okay to be ugly because she can still be a sexy femme fatale anyway and then it's just like "nope magic surgery she's flawless now and also has big boobies".
Yeah there are some writers that can get away with metaphor laden writing like Tamsyn Muir or Ursula K LeGuin but "oinking sea" just brings to mind the Bay of Pigs invasion.
Types of "Other girls"
1) She is dark, scary, deep and only speaks in riddles and questions. She only wears black.
2) she us too smart for you and doesn't care about fashion and makeup. She doesn't like parites so she stays at home studying.
3) She is too sweet, too perfect. But she doesn't see that in herself, she is constantly looking down on herself.
4) she is sooo badass that even badass couldn't explain it. She is constantly getting praised, and every fight she gets into she wins.
7) She's super plain and "not conventionally pretty" even though she's conventionally pretty, and has the personality of a baked potato yet every boy in the world covets her
8) Her only personality trait is that she reads books.
9)she is a bit (or very) toxic eg: Looks down on all girls who like make-up, fashion etc and sometimes calls them sluts, whores
11) she's so unique because she doesn't like trends. She doesn't follow what other people like because she would never be ordinary like others. She likes her own type of music and her own stuff.
1) Manic pixie dream girl, but goth
2) Hermione
3) Cinderella without the character development
4) Katniss
@Jessica Lynn 5) Ginny
6) Lily Potter, but completely ignoring James's character development
This book is so offensive on so many levels...it's stressing me out. Might look at some pigs in the sea to calm myself.
Gotchu fam just pretend it's drowning or else your edgelord credentials might get revoked ua-cam.com/video/2xCGUOSoIB8/v-deo.html
See the main difference between pigs in the sea and sea piglets is that the former gives me whiplash whilst the later is cute in an eldritch way.
AHAH
Pigs in the sea? Do you mean fat sea otters? Or manatees?
I looked up pigs in the sea and now I have a new coping ritual lol thank you
That science metaphor with iron and glass got my goat, because steel is an iron alloy thus she's very much like people of that element.
Repeat after me: sexuality does not have to pop out at every chance
Word, been trying to tell that to the rainbow crowd for years...
@@KangMinseok are you a happy person
@@harrys919 other than that I worry about my young daugther growing up in this world full of nonsense, yes, I would say so.
@@KangMinseok I can promise you she won't be 'indoctrinated', and in any case you should support her decision
@@harrys919 that's exactly what someone indoctrinating kids would say. And no, parents should not support any and all decisions their kid makes, that's horrible parenting advice. A child's ego is in constant conflict with it's environment (much more so than an adult's) and it's a parent's duty to help the child balance these so that it has the best chance to develop into an adult that can both self-like and be liked.
i’m not convinced this man has ever met a teenage girl
And based on this book I don’t want him to meet one
He did research on Wattpad
let's keep it that way
That's good
Well. I don't think am edgy 40 year old dude is likely to meet a teenage girl at all.
I mean. Yeah. If he was a cool 40 year old dude, rockstar level, he would have groupies ages 12 and up actively seeking him as a love interest, but edgy middle aged men are twice as unpleasant as edgy teenagers, and nobody likes edgy teenagers irl, not even other edgy teenagers.
You talking about terfs and the showing Emma Watson made me so scared for a second 😭😭
"...but they can't give you a new heart."
I think they prolly could tho.
like, sis, have you ever watched IRobot
What does Jay Kristoff think steel is? "I'm not iron, I'm an iron-carbon alloy. A lot of preps stare at me. I put my middle finger up at them."
that my immortal reference i-
MY IMMORTAL???
@@iwakeupandboomimarat i hate that I understood what you were talking about. I hate it
That reference tho
Everywhere I go, My Immortal follows
The author: Beautiful like a suicide
Me, who was throwing up disgusting yellow bile for 23 hours after trying to commit suicide: Bish, wha?
Edit: I'm okay now guys my parents are trying to find me a counselor to help me but it's been hard because of everything going on but I'm fine, or at least, will be. Thanks for the concern and I love all of you too!
ya.... iono about that
Wtf suicide isn’t beautiful
Sis I- you ok?
@@dan-gy4vu is anyone ever?
@@lore5751 that was my point
Jay Kristoff is legitimately one of the few fantasy writers I'd be scared to be in the same room with.
Am I the only one that liked some quotes like « They can’t see the knife in your hand if they’re lost in your eyes » ? And then the author proceed to ruin everything 💀