Good close reading! I personally don’t think the movie has that much to say. It got caught up between being a genre film and being an art film, and didn’t land as a “statement.” More of an exercise in pushing the genre boundaries.
I think that its easy to find excuses like the necklace and the bullying , were always looking for a motive . While your correct does his actions excuse what hes doing absolutely not. Its like why do these things when in reality the motivations do not matter its killing for killing sake. I think its messaging comes off perfectly because we Consume media Like Dahmer and we look back on serial killers and the questions always Why did they do these things. You give a killer a motivation or a backstory like the senseless bullying and murder and you want to sympathize with his plight but the excuses are a moot point . Instead its as the title says In a violent Nature , Evil doesn't need a motivation to be Evil its just easier to digest when they do .
I just watched this movie on Amazon Prime and because of your quick analysis, I went into the movie expecting a slow burn. The ads for this made me think it was going to be a crazy killer movie, but since I watched this first I knew what to expect and was pleasantly surprised still, enjoying the movie. I will say at the end when the lady was talking about a bear doing it I figured was actually Johnny the killer. I figured her brother was attacked by Johnny and thought there was no way anyone would believe it was some random dead guy from years ago so he just went with a bear doing it like the surviving girl did. My thoughts were the brother must've had the necklace somehow and when Jonny put him in the water the necklace came off or came out of his jacket or something, prompting Johnny to stop trying to kill him. Crazy thought but hearing your take on the bear concept makes more sense than mine, either way I was able to enjoy the movie a lot more thanks to your quick analysis of it so thank you for that!
I’ve been really looking forward to hearing your take on this. I enjoyed the originality shown in some of the kills, especially the girl who had been doing yoga 😬 but i did have a hard time disengaging from how poor the script was. I agree that it provided a really effective visualization of the effects PTSD has on a person, with how that traumatizing event is always going to feel like it’s about to happen again. I don’t think I’d watch it a second time, but I’m glad I ended up catching it in the theater.
I just watched the movie, and I sort of took the story to mean that we as people take from nature and don’t consider the consequences. Then when nature turns on us we can’t understand why it happens. Either when animals turn violent when we continually take more of their habitat or when weather explodes on us because of global warming. We humans can cause nature to turn violent on us and don’t take a moment to consider why it happens.
You’re forgetting a huge piece of dialogue that fixes a portion of your criticism. When the two teens meet up with the ranger and the killer is walking towards them final girl asked “well why don’t we just give him the necklace and he’ll stop”. Then the ranger says “giving him the necklace won’t make him stop”. The ranger then goes to say how the necklace wasn’t the only thing that bound him to staying dead and alluded to something else needing to be done that required him to be tied up. So just because he has the necklace now doesn’t mean he’s not out there still roaming and senselessly killing anyone he comes into contact with.
There's another piece of dialogue at this point that also fixes the criticism of the bear/motivation theory. The ranger says "some of the stories are true and some aren't" or something to that effect, meaning we really don't know if the massacre story is true, or if that really is his motivation or not, this also means we really don't know if the way to put him to rest is true or not. Maybe the ranger just "heard" this was how to do it, done it and it worked. From this we could assume that he has his locket and he's stopped for now, or we could assume he'll just keep going, we could also assume the flies indicate he's there at the truck, we don't know and we'll never know because we can't trust the stories. I thought the reason he pounded away at the last victim was because he called him a name and this was a flashback to him being bullied. I also liked the way she was seemingly running in circles bringing the supernatural element further and I was wondering if the cuts while walking were Johnny teleporting. I really enjoyed it. My only gripe was that he didn't split the ranger up the middle, I thought that was a no brainer when they were setting that scene up. I definitely took the bear to be an analogue for Johnny, and I thought they didn't want to talk about him directly incase he appeared as this is a common slasher trope. So maybe telling the stories through "animals" is a way to talk about it safely?? I dunno. I'd definitely watch more of Johnny though.
Well I think it’s trying to tell us he’s the exception he actually has a reason to go crazy and stab and it’s weird to believe but in this case the crazy Jason copy cat is the only one with a reason and he’s kinda in the right compared to everyone else
I must admit, I watched a film and it was very long and it did drag through. But then when I came back to it, I realized that it might be that it's trying to play upon the fact that we expect to want violence so much that we're not satisfied. Perhaps the frustration that we feel when there's not a final moment. or a closure of the story. Perhaps if playing upon our own violent nature, Our inability just to take something in, Taking us through shots of nature that has no music, has no culture, no politics. To amplifies the fact that we're waiting for something terrible to happen... Our own sensibilities are screaming for it. or it could mean absolutely none of that. 😅
I know this one is not gonna bang the algorithm like the Star Wars or Shitty Netflix movie content but I enjoyed this film and had a nice angle on it as well so I’m glad you enjoyed! Part three of the Atlas video is coming tonight or tomorrow morning as well :) - thanks for the love!!
What did you love about it? Dying to hear an answer. I hear a lot of people who say they loved the movie but really can't give a straight answer. So, people are just gaslighting a mediocre film, or they're all just saying it's good because everyone else is saying it's good.
I think you’ve completely missed the ambiguity of the ending. The film follows the killer all the way through, two things I took from the last 15 minutes is either Johnny is in the back of the truck or the final girl is now the killer due to hen house syndrome. There’s a ton of clues (saying Johnny was animal, the lighter, the blood on her face, the necklace being gone) but no ultimate answer. I believe it’s open to interpretation. Even the lady driving the truck could be a killer. She never gets back up from trying to stop the bleeding on the final girls leg. It’s Lynchian.
Hen house syndrome is more the revenge. Johnnys dad took advantage of the loggers, the loggers killed Johnny then presumably his dad, Johnny was innocent only killing when he was wronged or hurt. He stopped as soon as people left him alone. Him not being the bear and being innocent is illustrated by him playing with the car. He just wanted to play and be left alone.
I don't think the message of the film is the necklace. I believe that the name of the film clearly says the message, that place is surrounded by violence, for Johnny this is something natural like drinking water and breathing air. That's why handing over the necklace wouldn't stop him. That's what the bear's story is about, some things have no logical explanation or reason, just like Johnny's motivation for killing. In a Violent Nature is not a masterpiece (and why does it always have to be?), I see this film as something more conceptual, the film could be easier for an audience accustomed to receiving answers to everything rather than stopping to understand something deeper than the most superficial layer of a film.
@kiillabytez the movie is too slow. I watched it, and the yoga death scene, to me, was mediocre. Everyone said how it's so unique, but it was far from it. It's not a good movie, and it's not a bad movie. That's my take!
@@EricGray-zr2es I felt the yoga scene was the hilight of the film, but after seeing every Friday the 13th movie, I can safely say, there's nothing special about In A Violent Nature.
@@EricGray-zr2es I agree there are more worse Horror movies than good ones. High Tension was more Action packed than this one. Even Wolf Creek and Talon Falls were better.
Kris = Johnny. Johnny = Kris. This is a more artsy attempt at doing Haute Tension but extremely boring and slow paced. This movie succeeds nowhere and fails everywhere.
I agree with you on some points but, don't disrespect Vickie, from Friday the 13th part 2, by calling her "the old lady". She was the only character besides Johnny who I actually liked in the movie
To be honest I have zero clue what you’re talking about here because I never watched that movie… so it wasn’t disrespect. It was just who she was in this movie to me. Sorry if I offended you.
You’re not supposed to care about her. Her role is to just illustrate that by not trying to hurt Johnny and returning the necklace he stopped being violent. The story is sort of meant to say violence begets violence
The movie only exists to showcase mediocre kills. Over the top Yoga kill was like the entire movie. Long-winded and unnecessary. I've seen better films with better gore and a LOT better plot and acting.
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I didn't take the bear story literally. I figured it was Johnny and she was just coping.
That’s why films are cool, diff takeaways
Maybe it was a cocain bear, dishing out revenge on the rangers that stole his stash?
this is a great connected universe theory
Good close reading! I personally don’t think the movie has that much to say. It got caught up between being a genre film and being an art film, and didn’t land as a “statement.” More of an exercise in pushing the genre boundaries.
Dude!! Finally someone else mentions this, the bear does not = the killer in terms of motivations
Right?? I thought I was crazy at first
I think that its easy to find excuses like the necklace and the bullying , were always looking for a motive . While your correct does his actions excuse what hes doing absolutely not. Its like why do these things when in reality the motivations do not matter its killing for killing sake. I think its messaging comes off perfectly because we Consume media Like Dahmer and we look back on serial killers and the questions always Why did they do these things. You give a killer a motivation or a backstory like the senseless bullying and murder and you want to sympathize with his plight but the excuses are a moot point . Instead its as the title says In a violent Nature , Evil doesn't need a motivation to be Evil its just easier to digest when they do .
I appreciate this comment and perspective this is what fun / interesting films do for us - love it 🥂🙏
I sympathize for everyone who walked away from this film thinking it was a great movie.
I just watched this movie on Amazon Prime and because of your quick analysis, I went into the movie expecting a slow burn. The ads for this made me think it was going to be a crazy killer movie, but since I watched this first I knew what to expect and was pleasantly surprised still, enjoying the movie. I will say at the end when the lady was talking about a bear doing it I figured was actually Johnny the killer. I figured her brother was attacked by Johnny and thought there was no way anyone would believe it was some random dead guy from years ago so he just went with a bear doing it like the surviving girl did. My thoughts were the brother must've had the necklace somehow and when Jonny put him in the water the necklace came off or came out of his jacket or something, prompting Johnny to stop trying to kill him. Crazy thought but hearing your take on the bear concept makes more sense than mine, either way I was able to enjoy the movie a lot more thanks to your quick analysis of it so thank you for that!
The way Johnny kills he makes sure they’re dead 😂 u can survive a bear but Johnny I doubt it lol
Thanks for the kind words means a lot and glad you enjoyed the film more from my video somehow!!
I’ve been really looking forward to hearing your take on this. I enjoyed the originality shown in some of the kills, especially the girl who had been doing yoga 😬 but i did have a hard time disengaging from how poor the script was. I agree that it provided a really effective visualization of the effects PTSD has on a person, with how that traumatizing event is always going to feel like it’s about to happen again. I don’t think I’d watch it a second time, but I’m glad I ended up catching it in the theater.
Yes it was actually nice to see in a theater with a crowd they were on edge and reacting hilariously in my showing
I just watched the movie, and I sort of took the story to mean that we as people take from nature and don’t consider the consequences.
Then when nature turns on us we can’t understand why it happens.
Either when animals turn violent when we continually take more of their habitat or when weather explodes on us because of global warming.
We humans can cause nature to turn violent on us and don’t take a moment to consider why it happens.
I personally loved it and the ending to me was good.
It’s not a bad movie it just contradicts its own message at the end
You’re forgetting a huge piece of dialogue that fixes a portion of your criticism. When the two teens meet up with the ranger and the killer is walking towards them final girl asked “well why don’t we just give him the necklace and he’ll stop”. Then the ranger says “giving him the necklace won’t make him stop”. The ranger then goes to say how the necklace wasn’t the only thing that bound him to staying dead and alluded to something else needing to be done that required him to be tied up. So just because he has the necklace now doesn’t mean he’s not out there still roaming and senselessly killing anyone he comes into contact with.
Ahhh. Why does he also say it’s the only way to soothe his soul or something? It’s confusing to say the least
Or they could have got in the truck and went for help.
There's another piece of dialogue at this point that also fixes the criticism of the bear/motivation theory. The ranger says "some of the stories are true and some aren't" or something to that effect, meaning we really don't know if the massacre story is true, or if that really is his motivation or not, this also means we really don't know if the way to put him to rest is true or not. Maybe the ranger just "heard" this was how to do it, done it and it worked. From this we could assume that he has his locket and he's stopped for now, or we could assume he'll just keep going, we could also assume the flies indicate he's there at the truck, we don't know and we'll never know because we can't trust the stories. I thought the reason he pounded away at the last victim was because he called him a name and this was a flashback to him being bullied. I also liked the way she was seemingly running in circles bringing the supernatural element further and I was wondering if the cuts while walking were Johnny teleporting.
I really enjoyed it. My only gripe was that he didn't split the ranger up the middle, I thought that was a no brainer when they were setting that scene up. I definitely took the bear to be an analogue for Johnny, and I thought they didn't want to talk about him directly incase he appeared as this is a common slasher trope. So maybe telling the stories through "animals" is a way to talk about it safely?? I dunno. I'd definitely watch more of Johnny though.
I disagree. The perspectives switched. He's at peace again.
@@Stereo_type1982 It could also be the result of bad writing? Maybe that's what it all boils down to?
Well I think it’s trying to tell us he’s the exception he actually has a reason to go crazy and stab and it’s weird to believe but in this case the crazy Jason copy cat is the only one with a reason and he’s kinda in the right compared to everyone else
I must admit, I watched a film and it was very long and it did drag through. But then when I came back to it, I realized that it might be that it's trying to play upon the fact that we expect to want violence so much that we're not satisfied. Perhaps the frustration that we feel when there's not a final moment. or a closure of the story. Perhaps if playing upon our own violent nature, Our inability just to take something in, Taking us through shots of nature that has no music, has no culture, no politics. To amplifies the fact that we're waiting for something terrible to happen... Our own sensibilities are screaming for it.
or it could mean absolutely none of that. 😅
man these last handful of videos have been fantastic,
I know this one is not gonna bang the algorithm like the Star Wars or Shitty Netflix movie content but I enjoyed this film and had a nice angle on it as well so I’m glad you enjoyed! Part three of the Atlas video is coming tonight or tomorrow morning as well :) - thanks for the love!!
I loved the film, but I wasn't huge on the large periods of just walking. Then the ending, it makes the film stop a grinding halt
What did you love about it? Dying to hear an answer. I hear a lot of people who say they loved the movie but really can't give a straight answer. So, people are just gaslighting a mediocre film, or they're all just saying it's good because everyone else is saying it's good.
I've enjoyed it - thanks! And you have a great day too!
I think you’ve completely missed the ambiguity of the ending. The film follows the killer all the way through, two things I took from the last 15 minutes is either Johnny is in the back of the truck or the final girl is now the killer due to hen house syndrome. There’s a ton of clues (saying Johnny was animal, the lighter, the blood on her face, the necklace being gone) but no ultimate answer. I believe it’s open to interpretation. Even the lady driving the truck could be a killer. She never gets back up from trying to stop the bleeding on the final girls leg. It’s Lynchian.
Hen house syndrome is more the revenge. Johnnys dad took advantage of the loggers, the loggers killed Johnny then presumably his dad, Johnny was innocent only killing when he was wronged or hurt. He stopped as soon as people left him alone. Him not being the bear and being innocent is illustrated by him playing with the car. He just wanted to play and be left alone.
Why didn’t they leave caution tape or a warning of some sort around the necklace lol
I don't think the message of the film is the necklace. I believe that the name of the film clearly says the message, that place is surrounded by violence, for Johnny this is something natural like drinking water and breathing air. That's why handing over the necklace wouldn't stop him. That's what the bear's story is about, some things have no logical explanation or reason, just like Johnny's motivation for killing. In a Violent Nature is not a masterpiece (and why does it always have to be?), I see this film as something more conceptual, the film could be easier for an audience accustomed to receiving answers to everything rather than stopping to understand something deeper than the most superficial layer of a film.
Gollum and Jason Vorhees had a mutant child.
And the result was the guy who wrote this shit.
@kiillabytez the movie is too slow. I watched it, and the yoga death scene, to me, was mediocre. Everyone said how it's so unique, but it was far from it. It's not a good movie, and it's not a bad movie. That's my take!
@@EricGray-zr2es I felt the yoga scene was the hilight of the film, but after seeing every Friday the 13th movie, I can safely say, there's nothing special about In A Violent Nature.
@@EricGray-zr2es I agree there are more worse Horror movies than good ones. High Tension was more Action packed than this one. Even Wolf Creek and Talon Falls were better.
@kiillabytez I agree my friend
In a mundane nature.
so the premise is Friday the 13th??? got it.
Kris = Johnny. Johnny = Kris. This is a more artsy attempt at doing Haute Tension but extremely boring and slow paced. This movie succeeds nowhere and fails everywhere.
Am I trippin or was Johnny blind? They showed his eyes and if I’m correct those are a blind person eyes. His hearing senses are also advanced
He can also hold his breath for 5 minutes and tank shotgun shells the dudes a beast
I agree with you on some points but, don't disrespect Vickie, from Friday the 13th part 2, by calling her "the old lady". She was the only character besides Johnny who I actually liked in the movie
To be honest I have zero clue what you’re talking about here because I never watched that movie… so it wasn’t disrespect. It was just who she was in this movie to me.
Sorry if I offended you.
We know nothing about the final girl to care.
I agree with you
You’re not supposed to care about her. Her role is to just illustrate that by not trying to hurt Johnny and returning the necklace he stopped being violent. The story is sort of meant to say violence begets violence
Nature is violent?
Your interpretation is wrong because Johnny wasn’t the bear. The loggers were, the campers that that stole from him were.
Could be true but it really seemed like she was comparing the young girls experience with the killer to the bear
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The lady was only told that it was an animal. She told a story that seemed appropriate .
Sorry. The film was pretty boring and the one kill that everyone freaked out about was pretty laughable.
The movie only exists to showcase mediocre kills. Over the top Yoga kill was like the entire movie. Long-winded and unnecessary. I've seen better films with better gore and a LOT better plot and acting.
this movie was dumpster juice...horrible..anyone saying it was great are awesome has to be a bot or just high of 1988 crack
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God-awful film. Do NOT waste your time. Horrendously bad.
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