Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Systems look very complex at first glance. This video explains all those components and how it works to give you super pure, great tasting Reverse Osmosis water!
How can you tell when the membrane needs change if you can’t see the differential pressure? Should you have 2 pressure gauges? Or do you just recommend a certain amount of time/ gallonage between changes?
I’ve seen RO machines with booster pump as part of the system. What you’ve shown in this episode is without a booster pump. Does it make a difference ? With or without a 24V booster pump?
Gary, I looked at many videos and yours is the only one that made sense!! Thank you so much for making what was first a draining task into an invigorating accomplishment.
Thanks for clearing something up for me. I had the wrong idea of how the system works and have heard of horror stories where water bills increased by hundreds of dollars. I thought that once the tank was full, no more water could cross the membrane and the incoming water (under tap water pressure) would bounce off the now impenetrable membrane and just flow out the drain pipe. In other words, no shut off valve. Thanks for explaining it!
Thanks for filling all the gaps in my understanding. I watched an installation video for my system and was scratching my head at the end of it. I knew how to make all the proper connections, but it wasn’t clear to me how clean water flowed into and out of the storage tank via the same line. Thanks also for integrating the automatic shutoff valve into your explanation. My installation video said nothing about why the tube coming out of the 3rd filter stage was labeled “to ASV,” or even what that did.
Indeed, I had to shut off my RO to repair a line and for the life of me couldn't figure out how in the heck the tank works with only one line. Thank you for that easy to follow explanation.
@@philiplongo8323 yeah, I feel like this video was a great overview for anybody who needs to understand the parts involved in the system if you ever need to service it, but I was really hoping for an overall conceptual explanation more than that.
How does the water divide within the membrane? How does it know which is which? Is an ASO valve absolutely necessary for good production? My generic, 6 stage R/O system w/ 100 gpd membrane, did not come with an ASO valve or restricter other than a small piece of plastic with smaller diameter hole inserted into the 1/4" tube on outflow. However, my system seems to produce R/O water properly. Also, you may wish to balance your audio levels here.
Water is forced through under pressure. The low mineral context water goes through the high mineral content water does not. The ASO valve shuts off the water when the tank is full. Yes you have one version of the flow restrictor
Hey Gary, I have two questions. You stated that reverse osmosis was used by the navy to purify seawater into drinking water. My first question is, could I use this system on a boat for that exact purpose? Second is, if so how often would the filters need to be changed?
Sea water at 50,000 ppm TDS is beyond the limits of the systems we sell. I have heard of marine systems that are made for this purpose but we don't handle those..
I’m looking to get a RO system for my 1/3 acre farm. If a system says 2,000 gpd how much will it do in say an hours cycle with my sprinklers? I’m using a standard 5/8” hose to each section when I irrigate.
You would need to add tanks to accumulate the water and then repressurize it to feed your system. Thsi video explains how a commercial system works. ua-cam.com/video/SCANIla-NAU/v-deo.html
Thank you for this! I am adding a mineral adder to my ro system and needed to figure out how to add it to the system before the tank. This helped a ton!
This video helped me a lot. Especially showing the flow of the water as it goes through the system. I figured out that I had the tank hose and faucet hose backwards on the post-filter. Thanks for naming each part as well. Great presentation!
What are your thoughts on the Zero waste water RO systems? I am looking at the AQUA flo H.E.R.O. system which would pipe the waste waster back into your water system before the softener and RO system.
Great question! Years ago when I researched this product I was told that their performance was very poor. Just now when I went to look it up, the links to the specs page and manual go nowhere. I would research this product very carefully before spending any money on it. You are far better of with our HUM Water Saver 75 which although there still is some wasted water, it is far less than the others. See video here ua-cam.com/video/S17l3Tt6xS4/v-deo.html waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day See video here
No they are not. Also, check the price of their replacement filters, they are outrageous! You are far better off with one of these waterestore.ca/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Yes it definitely does remove Flouride. I am not a real fan of flouride in my drinking water either, since it's a bit odd when i think of the reason the government said they put it there in the first place. Like seriously? Do they all the sudden care a lot for our teeth? (More like they care more to control us by making us more docile). Anyways, My biggest concern why I'm thinking of switching to a reverse osmosis system from my "Brita Elite Advance" is to filter some of The Carcinogenic Nitrate/N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA) and Arsenic that's in the water we drink. But I'm still not sure about drinking RO water all the time, due to some studies about it working too good I guess 😅. Because RO can remove healthy minerals such as calcium, magnesium, potassium and other bicarbonates, I would likely drink RO water it 70% of the time and not use it for cooking. Also I would likely have to take more supplements/vitamins (calcium, magnesium, and electrolytes) Now don't get me wrong, I think Reverse Osmosis is Great 👍 But just like everything, everything shoulc be used in moderation.
Very informative! Will my undersink RO still work even if I don't connect it to utility tap? I'm planning to install it somewhere far-flung without tap water.
@@water_estore Not sure but I normally get my water from Carlsbad Mineral water. They have a natural spring. When I visit my mom I drink water from her reverse osmosis tap and I just feel that her water is missing something. I don’t feel like I am hydrated all the way.
@@markhopkinsphoto7257 it’s because reverse osmosis water from tap is literally waste water that has been “purified”. spring water and well water, FTW!! reverse osmosis is just sketchy to me, TBH
@@everose606 I was reading my water bottle and saw this term and immediately thought of recycled water and to me it sounds like they just "purify" the waste water to package in water bought
I want to add a RO system to clean the water to my refrigerator, but that wall only has a water source and no drain. If I ran the drain hose up the wall and tapped into a drain in the attic, would it push the water up 10 feet, or would it be better to install in the attic. Or I could put the ro under my kitchen sink, run the output into per, up the wall, over and down the wall of the refrigerator. This way the drain would drain into the sink drain??? Advice ?
I’m thinking of learning all about these systems for my family’s prepping needs. Would taking a technicians course be overkill? How much demand is there for RO technicians in the labor market these days?
H Gary, I have a BRS water RODI system with a pressurized water tank for my drinking water. My tank after filling up use to shut off my booster pump but since has not. The pressure on my gauge goes to about 80 or so. This began to happen recently after changing out all my filters and Membranes.... Any Ideas .
Maybe but something is wrong because once the tank is full and drain is quiet, I take a glass of water and drain noise goes on for 10min. It's only 2 months old and didn't used to run like this
Great question, it will to some degree but if it is likely that your water has bacteria I would add one of these waterestore.com/products/luminor-glacier-4-9-lpm-uvc-led-system-guv-5s
What if you get a bad clog and both sinks are full causing back pressure? Can the bad water with draino come back up the drain line and poison everyone drinking it?
I live in an apartment. Not much space under my sunk. It's there a RO system that's small and compact that I can use ? Any recommendations ? Thank u !!
It can if you are on an unchlorinated water supply without a UV disinfection system like this onewaterestore.com/products/hum-safe-water-10gpm-minirack-mr320e-tp2s-220
I have a 3 stage RO system, and the pH doesn't change at all. Curious at to why? The EC drops from 300ppm to almost nothing 30ppm but the pH stay high, weird.
@@water_estore I figured it out, Low ionic strength solutions, like distilled, deionized and reverse osmosis water cannot be measured with pH pens or probes. The reading will be unreliable because the pH-sensitive glass needs lots of ions to provide an accurate and reproducible reading.
I'm surprised to hear those systems were used on subs during WW11 . The destroyer I was on in the 60's was a Sumner Class ( WW11 ) . As a machinist mate in the aft engine room one of the watches I stood was on the evaporator turning sea water into fresh . Which was basically a small boiler fired by steam . Forward engine room had an even bigger one .
Filters last about one year, membrane about 5-7 years. Filter pricing is here waterestore.com/products/water-saver-75-r-o-combo-pack-4-replacement-filters
I made a comment on your shorter how RO systems work video. This is much more in depth but on a chemistry level what is happening? Thinking back to science class I remember a semipermeable membrane allowing water to cross a membrane but crossing from clean water to salty water. So wouldn’t the dirty water attract the clean water? Also, how is the clean water kept separate from the dirty water inside the housing? Looking in the housing I just see two holes in the bottom. How does the ASO valve operate? I have one apart right now trying to troubleshoot it.
This is reverse osmosis, we use water pressure to force the water through the membrane, not osmosis where is equalizes on both sides of the membrane. The water that goes through the membrane goes to the tank through one exit and the water flushing the membrane goes to drain through a different exit. The ASO compares the water pressure before and after the membrane and when the pressure after reaches an acceptable pressure, telling the ASO that the tank is full it shuts off the flow. Typically is the ASO is problematic we repalce them with a new one here waterestore.com/products/reverse-osmosis-aso-asv-4000q
@@water_estore oh my gosh I’m an idiot! It says it right in the name! lol funny how someone can misunderstand something so easy and not realize it. Thank you for the info
Great video, thanks for explaining the process of how it works! I use RO for watering house plants and in our humidifiers, but I wouldn't drink it on a regular basis (I'm lucky to live on a well that goes into a deep, clean aquifer).
Hi Gary, great video! Would you still recommend this exact RO water system? Or, would you recommend another, newer one? I'm asking because this video is over 3 years old, so thought maybe a better one could possibly now be available. Thanks
Great question, basically the same system (same one I have in my house for my family) but now you can get it with a brushed nickel faucet here waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-75-gpd-reverse-osmosis-system-brushed-nickel-faucet
Will an RO help with manganese in the water supply? I know an RO needs higher pressure to work properly, we are on a well with 60psi. Would we need a booster pump, and can it be hooked directly up to the fridge instead of a faucet? your video is very informative. Thank you so much
Yes, it will remove manganese, 60 psi is plenty, if your TDS is higher than 1,000 ppm you will need a booster pump, yes, you can go straight to the fridge but how will you fill your coffee carafe? You would need a dedicated faucet at the kitchen sink.
The last filter is often referred to as a polishing filter. It cleans up any odor that may come from the water sitting in the tank. This sytem reduces the mnineral content by 90% so there are still minerals, just less. No it is great for daily use.
Gary, thank you for the information. I want to buy a RO water filter, but I need to get an over-the-counter unit because I am staying in a rental place for now. What system would you recommend?
It takes about 1 1/2 hours depending on your water quality. It fills at the same rate as a standard efficiency system, just a whole lot less water going to the drain.
I inherited one of these systems in a house I just bought. Mine has a pump on it. What does this pump do? When I plug in the pump, it continues to run. Should it shut off on its own? And my tank is empty. How long will it take to fill up this tank?
The pump pushes water through the system, ours don't need a pump. The pump will shut off when the tank is full (well it should) It could take upm to 4 hours to fill the tank.
Thank you for your helpful videos! I am on well water and am researching RO systems. I already have a sediment filter, carbon filter, and UV light for my whole house system, so it seems redundant to get an RO system with these filters again. Are there simpler systems for RO that skip the upfront filters?
No there really are not and you will find that in spite of those whole house filters the filters in the RO system itself still get quite dirty, so you need a 5 stage RO system.
I wouldn't recommend drinking well water even with big blue filters and a UV light. Is a softener being used to keep that UV light sleeve from getting calcium buildup? Remember, if the sleeve is coated with calcium/magnesium the UV light can't penetrate through the build up and effectively kill bacteria going through it.
Hello sir.. one thing that confuse me is that this system needs a booster motor or not? Is there a pressure requirement for this system to work properly? Your feedback is highly appreciated ty
... and now you know how it works. If you need replacement filters, we have them here waterestore.com/products/hum-cottage-water-75-gpd-r-o-replacement-filters-membrane?variant=43997846012117
Is it possible for dirty water to backflow through from drain line? If yes, is there a solution? For example, a clog under the sink or after the drain line and the dirty water comes back to the sink.
I just changed all 3 filters in my whirlpool r.o. system and now find I need a new tank. If I purge and sanitize the new tank and system, will the clorox damage the new filters ??
It depends on how much dirt and chemicals are in your water but generally we repalce the filters once per year and the membrane every 3-5 years depending on your total dissolved solids and if you have a water softener or not.
Thanks for the detailed info on how it works. I want to buy one but not sure which one I should choose. as you mentioned that the highly efficient memarine waste less water, but I am not sure how I should check for these types of system in store. what should I ask for? Do they understand if I say I need highly efficient system which waste less water, or do I need to use any technical term so that they can understand. Please suggest.
Yes, this is the one in my house waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day. High efficiency, uses non proprietary filters, high flow and Made in USA
Great video Gary, thank you, just a couple of questions though, how often do I need to change any of the filters, and secondly, in one of your other videos regarding bottled water, you said we should consider how long the water has spent in the bottle from when it is bottled to when it is drunk by the consumer, so is this the same with the "water tank for the RO system, with it being plastic is all I'm thinking? 👍
Filters need to be changed every 12 months. Yes, we want to minimize the contact time with water in any container but since you are using water from this every day or at least every month, there is no concern.
Great question. No, you need a reverse osmosis drinking water system like this to remove fluoride waterestore.ca/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Best tutorial, but I’m perplexed: Our RO system faucet is a 3 tube design. We want to replace it with a single inlet (water) design as it matches our sink better. Can we simply route the black “purge” line directly to drain vs. having to pass through the RO spigot? In simpler words can I bypass the RO spigot. Forgive my lack of nomenclature. Thanks, JB
Goldline is about 4 1/2 gallons per gallon. HUM Water Saver 75 is about 11/2 gallon per gallon. It is here waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Been in the water business full time for three weeks now. RO's are the most complicated water treatment to learn about. Also the most difficult to work on. Just like anything the best way to learn is to go hands-on. I've noticed there's more differences in models than just the membrane sometimes. Like the new model we install has an "absolute" filter. And the order is sediment, pre-carbon, membrane, absolute, and post-carbon (polishing). As I understand the absolute we use is just to take out one or two nasty things that the rest of the system isn't certified to take out. That's a pretty self-explanatory benefit if the absolute is preventing something nothing else will. So is the benefit of having dual pre-carbon filters that they don't have to be changed as often? Even if so that doesn't change the frequency of change on sediment. If you wanted the best of both worlds I suppose you could put another carbon filter in where the sediment usually goes and put a separate pre-filter for sediment before the whole unit. Perhaps that's what you would do if you were putting an RO in a house with hard, chlorinated city water and they weren't going to buy a softener and backwashing carbon filter? I'm really geeking out on this stuff. This will be my long-term career for sure.
The two carbon filters are for capacity but also contact time. An extra sediment filter will not remove hardness. If customer has hard water with out a softener (within reason) they would just need to replace the membrane more often but it would still work.
A question about this filter system that was described. Many carbon filters call for a 5 minute rinse after replacement I didn’t notice that you had a rinse step in the replacement video, should that be done to avoid membrane contamination?Also I was suprised to learn a little while back that the holding tanks only required about 6 psi.
Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Systems look very complex at first glance. This video explains all those components and how it works to give you super pure, great tasting Reverse Osmosis water!
Hey! Can you kindly answer a question I have,
I'd like to know if the valve for the drain should be completely open? Or
do you use humpless RO water system?
How can you tell when the membrane needs change if you can’t see the differential pressure? Should you have 2 pressure gauges? Or do you just recommend a certain amount of time/ gallonage between changes?
@@alexw4225 normally between 2- 3 years, but they can last up to 5 years. You'll normally see a loss of pressure when it needs changing.
I’ve seen RO machines with booster pump as part of the system. What you’ve shown in this episode is without a booster pump. Does it make a difference ? With or without a 24V booster pump?
This was my crash course on reverse osmosis. I couldn't have asked for a clearer explanation. Gary, you're awesome.
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Gary, I looked at many videos and yours is the only one that made sense!! Thank you so much for making what was first a draining task into an invigorating accomplishment.
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Thanks for clearing something up for me. I had the wrong idea of how the system works and have heard of horror stories where water bills increased by hundreds of dollars.
I thought that once the tank was full, no more water could cross the membrane and the incoming water (under tap water pressure) would bounce off the now impenetrable membrane and just flow out the drain pipe. In other words, no shut off valve.
Thanks for explaining it!
Yes, there actually isn’t all they much water wasted.
I learn a lot of things
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I guess English isn’t one of them.
Got his assss🤣
@@marcosrios3932but he’s correct?
I so smat, I lern things
Does the system fill up by itself, or does it only fill when running cold water at the tap?
It fills whenever the tank is less than full.
I was wondering how these systems work and here is the exact video to answer my question. Thank you.
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Thanks a lot for this informative video. Now I know how my RO water system works! Thanks again from Thailand. 🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭
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At last... not just the simple insallation instructions... Thank you.. I'm now ready for the next level RO Technician vid!
Great then here it is ua-cam.com/video/wNZCvFfFv3I/v-deo.html
Thank you for this video. Very informative. Videos of people trying to get "fresh" drinking water from deconstructing dehumidifiers brought me here.
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Thanks for filling all the gaps in my understanding. I watched an installation video for my system and was scratching my head at the end of it. I knew how to make all the proper connections, but it wasn’t clear to me how clean water flowed into and out of the storage tank via the same line.
Thanks also for integrating the automatic shutoff valve into your explanation. My installation video said nothing about why the tube coming out of the 3rd filter stage was labeled “to ASV,” or even what that did.
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Indeed, I had to shut off my RO to repair a line and for the life of me couldn't figure out how in the heck the tank works with only one line. Thank you for that easy to follow explanation.
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Watching this because my tap water has high phosphates and it’s giving my aquarium issues can’t wait to finish the video
Glad to hear, I hope it helped!
Great video. Do you happen to know of any portable/travel RO systems that are made in USA?
No, they are somewhat complex to install temporarily. Bottled RO water like Dasani is what I use when I travel.
Great overview of system operation. Very helpful for troubleshooting. Well done!
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I came here after I bought some water from dollar general and the label said it was purified with reverse osmosis and I got curious! Thanks!
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Same here lol clover valley purified water
This is a good description about how THIS system works but not how reverse osmosis actually works.
Thank you
@@philiplongo8323 yeah, I feel like this video was a great overview for anybody who needs to understand the parts involved in the system if you ever need to service it, but I was really hoping for an overall conceptual explanation more than that.
How does the water divide within the membrane? How does it know which is which? Is an ASO valve absolutely necessary for good production? My generic, 6 stage R/O system w/ 100 gpd membrane, did not come with an ASO valve or restricter other than a small piece of plastic with smaller diameter hole inserted into the 1/4" tube on outflow. However, my system seems to produce R/O water properly. Also, you may wish to balance your audio levels here.
Water is forced through under pressure. The low mineral context water goes through the high mineral content water does not. The ASO valve shuts off the water when the tank is full. Yes you have one version of the flow restrictor
Hey Gary, I have two questions. You stated that reverse osmosis was used by the navy to purify seawater into drinking water.
My first question is, could I use this system on a boat for that exact purpose? Second is, if so how often would the filters need to be changed?
Sea water at 50,000 ppm TDS is beyond the limits of the systems we sell. I have heard of marine systems that are made for this purpose but we don't handle those..
As a person who heard about reverse osmosis and wanted to use it for living in desert this is awesome thanks I’m subbing
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@@water_estore sure will gary
I’m looking to get a RO system for my 1/3 acre farm. If a system says 2,000 gpd how much will it do in say an hours cycle with my sprinklers? I’m using a standard 5/8” hose to each section when I irrigate.
You would need to add tanks to accumulate the water and then repressurize it to feed your system. Thsi video explains how a commercial system works. ua-cam.com/video/SCANIla-NAU/v-deo.html
Man I'm so grateful for this channel and all of its videos
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Thank you for this! I am adding a mineral adder to my ro system and needed to figure out how to add it to the system before the tank. This helped a ton!
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So you’re removing minerals with reverse osmosis then adding in more minerals?
@@nujxad yes. Removing all the bad chemicals that’s in the city water and adding back in the good ones
@@luket6405 how do you add in more minerals? Is there a separate machine that does it?
@@nujxad I ended up buying a re-mineralization filter from iSpring on Amazon. It’s just an inline filter I added on
Great video! Just had one of these installed and you explained how it works so well. Thank you!
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does it matter if my T off of my finishing filter is a few inches away from the actual end of the filter?
No, not at all.
This video helped me a lot. Especially showing the flow of the water as it goes through the system. I figured out that I had the tank hose and faucet hose backwards on the post-filter. Thanks for naming each part as well. Great presentation!
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What are your thoughts on the Zero waste water RO systems? I am looking at the AQUA flo H.E.R.O. system which would pipe the waste waster back into your water system before the softener and RO system.
Great question! Years ago when I researched this product I was told that their performance was very poor. Just now when I went to look it up, the links to the specs page and manual go nowhere. I would research this product very carefully before spending any money on it. You are far better of with our HUM Water Saver 75 which although there still is some wasted water, it is far less than the others. See video here ua-cam.com/video/S17l3Tt6xS4/v-deo.html
waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day See video here
Is kinectico worth the price difference to any other type of ROS?
No they are not. Also, check the price of their replacement filters, they are outrageous! You are far better off with one of these waterestore.ca/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Thanks! About how much should it cost to install an RO system at a faucet?
Depends on a lot of variables. Drilling granite or quartz? Anywhere from $250 to over $600.
Hello Gary does this removes Fluoride from the water as well? which is one of my main concerns at the moment
great question! Yes it does.
Yes it definitely does remove Flouride.
I am not a real fan of flouride in my drinking water either, since it's a bit odd when i think of the reason the government said they put it there in the first place.
Like seriously? Do they all the sudden care a lot for our teeth? (More like they care more to control us by making us more docile).
Anyways, My biggest concern why I'm thinking of switching to a reverse osmosis system from my "Brita Elite Advance" is to filter some of The Carcinogenic Nitrate/N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA) and Arsenic that's in the water we drink.
But I'm still not sure about drinking RO water all the time, due to some studies about it working too good I guess 😅.
Because RO can remove healthy minerals such as calcium, magnesium, potassium and other bicarbonates,
I would likely drink RO water it 70% of the time and not use it for cooking.
Also I would likely have to take more supplements/vitamins
(calcium, magnesium, and electrolytes)
Now don't get me wrong, I think Reverse Osmosis is Great 👍
But just like everything, everything shoulc be used in moderation.
Very informative! Will my undersink RO still work even if I don't connect it to utility tap? I'm planning to install it somewhere far-flung without tap water.
Yes it will as long as there is a water supply.
@@water_estore The water supply will just come from a reservoir of rainwater, about 16 liters.
Shouldn’t there be some minerals in the water though? I never feel quenched when I drink water from reverse osmosis.
Reverse Osmosis does not remove all of the minerals, it removes about 90%. Which minerals would you like to have in your water?
@@water_estore Not sure but I normally get my water from Carlsbad Mineral water. They have a natural spring. When I visit my mom I drink water from her reverse osmosis tap and I just feel that her water is missing something. I don’t feel like I am hydrated all the way.
@@markhopkinsphoto7257 it’s because reverse osmosis water from tap is literally waste water that has been “purified”. spring water and well water, FTW!! reverse osmosis is just sketchy to me, TBH
Osmosis remove pollutes
@@everose606 I was reading my water bottle and saw this term and immediately thought of recycled water and to me it sounds like they just "purify" the waste water to package in water bought
What is the benefit of adding a permate pump? Does it produce water faster?
I really don't know. I never use or recommend them, unnecessary cost and complexity.
I want to add a RO system to clean the water to my refrigerator, but that wall only has a water source and no drain. If I ran the drain hose up the wall and tapped into a drain in the attic, would it push the water up 10 feet, or would it be better to install in the attic. Or I could put the ro under my kitchen sink, run the output into per, up the wall, over and down the wall of the refrigerator. This way the drain would drain into the sink drain??? Advice ?
Under the sink is the better option.
I’m thinking of learning all about these systems for my family’s prepping needs. Would taking a technicians course be overkill? How much demand is there for RO technicians in the labor market these days?
There are huge opportunities for all water filtration technicians, definitely a career in demand.
What's the white chamber do? The one with four hoses. What's the yellow hoses do?
The large one on the top is the membrane. The hose color differs based on the system. Where does your yellow hose go to and from?
Do these RO systems get rid of iron and heavy metals aswell?
Yes they do.
H Gary, I have a BRS water RODI system with a pressurized water tank for my drinking water. My tank after filling up use to shut off my booster pump but since has not. The pressure on my gauge goes to about 80 or so. This began to happen recently after changing out all my filters and Membranes.... Any Ideas .
I would check the Automatic shut off valve. We have them here waterestore.com/products/reverse-osmosis-aso-asv-4000q
Will this remove vinyl chloride and latex?
Great question! Yes, it will.
Great video. I have a question: mine is constantly running water to drain. Drained water stops when the tank is full or I turn off inlet cold water.
That is how they work, when filling the tank the impurities are being flushed to the drain, when the tank is full all water is shut off.
Maybe but something is wrong because once the tank is full and drain is quiet, I take a glass of water and drain noise goes on for 10min. It's only 2 months old and didn't used to run like this
Thank you Gary! I always wondered why the tank was there and how it worked
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Does a system like this filter, amoebas, bacterias, and viruses?
Should a UV light be added?
Great question, it will to some degree but if it is likely that your water has bacteria I would add one of these waterestore.com/products/luminor-glacier-4-9-lpm-uvc-led-system-guv-5s
What if you get a bad clog and both sinks are full causing back pressure? Can the bad water with draino come back up the drain line and poison everyone drinking it?
I can't see how it could, the system uses water from your water supply for purification not from the drain.
I live in an apartment. Not much space under my sunk. It's there a RO system that's small and compact that I can use ? Any recommendations ? Thank u !!
They are all about the same size.
Does bacteria or residue grow in the tank or the tubes?
It can if you are on an unchlorinated water supply without a UV disinfection system like this onewaterestore.com/products/hum-safe-water-10gpm-minirack-mr320e-tp2s-220
6:55 hello there , can you explain to me how to set the waste valve to an optimum position please?
Not sure what you mean by the waste valve.
I'm studying for my Red Seal, and for certain topics I have to do my own research. Here I am. Thanks for the video!
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Hey! Can you kindly answer a question I have,
I'd like to know if the valve for the drain should be completely open? Or half way open?
I have never seen a valve on the drain line. A flow restrictor yes, but never a valve.
Great info. I’m moving to Florida and I’ll definitely need a system like this.
Great to hear! We have them here waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
@@water_estore Can this take out chemicals such as Vinyl Chloride?
I have a 3 stage RO system, and the pH doesn't change at all. Curious at to why? The EC drops from 300ppm to almost nothing 30ppm but the pH stay high, weird.
Might be a problem with your pH test?
@@water_estore I figured it out, Low ionic strength solutions, like distilled, deionized and reverse osmosis water cannot be measured with pH pens or probes. The reading will be unreliable because the pH-sensitive glass needs lots of ions to provide an accurate and reproducible reading.
I'm surprised to hear those systems were used on subs during WW11 . The destroyer I was on in the 60's was a Sumner Class ( WW11 ) . As a machinist mate in the aft engine room one of the watches I stood was on the evaporator turning sea water into fresh . Which was basically a small boiler fired by steam . Forward engine room had an even bigger one .
Yes, that is what I learned many years ago.
WW11?
A Sumner class destroyer was the type built during the time period of WW 11@@DriveFastEatGrass
What about removing metals such as fluoride, does it do that?
Yes it does!
@@water_estore thank you
How long do they last about how much to replace everything needed
Filters last about one year, membrane about 5-7 years. Filter pricing is here waterestore.com/products/water-saver-75-r-o-combo-pack-4-replacement-filters
I made a comment on your shorter how RO systems work video. This is much more in depth but on a chemistry level what is happening? Thinking back to science class I remember a semipermeable membrane allowing water to cross a membrane but crossing from clean water to salty water. So wouldn’t the dirty water attract the clean water? Also, how is the clean water kept separate from the dirty water inside the housing? Looking in the housing I just see two holes in the bottom.
How does the ASO valve operate? I have one apart right now trying to troubleshoot it.
This is reverse osmosis, we use water pressure to force the water through the membrane, not osmosis where is equalizes on both sides of the membrane. The water that goes through the membrane goes to the tank through one exit and the water flushing the membrane goes to drain through a different exit. The ASO compares the water pressure before and after the membrane and when the pressure after reaches an acceptable pressure, telling the ASO that the tank is full it shuts off the flow. Typically is the ASO is problematic we repalce them with a new one here waterestore.com/products/reverse-osmosis-aso-asv-4000q
@@water_estore oh my gosh I’m an idiot! It says it right in the name! lol funny how someone can misunderstand something so easy and not realize it.
Thank you for the info
Great video, thanks for explaining the process of how it works! I use RO for watering house plants and in our humidifiers, but I wouldn't drink it on a regular basis (I'm lucky to live on a well that goes into a deep, clean aquifer).
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can I put a tee connector at the tank for my ice maker? would be a lot easier that way...
Sure, that works
Hi Gary, great video! Would you still recommend this exact RO water system? Or, would you recommend another, newer one? I'm asking because this video is over 3 years old, so thought maybe a better one could possibly now be available. Thanks
Great question, basically the same system (same one I have in my house for my family) but now you can get it with a brushed nickel faucet here waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-75-gpd-reverse-osmosis-system-brushed-nickel-faucet
@@water_estoreDoes this offer free shipping to Canada?
Will an RO help with manganese in the water supply? I know an RO needs higher pressure to work properly, we are on a well with 60psi. Would we need a booster pump, and can it be hooked directly up to the fridge instead of a faucet? your video is very informative. Thank you so much
Yes, it will remove manganese, 60 psi is plenty, if your TDS is higher than 1,000 ppm you will need a booster pump, yes, you can go straight to the fridge but how will you fill your coffee carafe? You would need a dedicated faucet at the kitchen sink.
Hey. What does the fishing filter do? Also does this give water with no minerals at all? Is it bad for daily use?
The last filter is often referred to as a polishing filter. It cleans up any odor that may come from the water sitting in the tank. This sytem reduces the mnineral content by 90% so there are still minerals, just less. No it is great for daily use.
I just had my filters replaced so how long does it take to fill the storage tank back up?
Anywhere from 1 to 3 hours.
Thanks for your informative video but could I use the RO system with out storage tank
Yes, but there would be such a pathetic slow stream of water you would hate it.
Thank you so much Gary 🙏🏻. Can I get more videos on industrial water purification videos.
Sure thing! We have our Commercial RO videos here ua-cam.com/play/PLmnBltD77jBUUVlBSGEM-WmGgGAPC8-Au.html
Gary, thank you for the information. I want to buy a RO water filter, but I need to get an over-the-counter unit because I am staying in a rental place for now. What system would you recommend?
Sorry, I have never used an over the counter system so I don't know.
How fast does it take to fill the tank shown? Does the HE fill the tank at thw same rate or is it slower?
It takes about 1 1/2 hours depending on your water quality. It fills at the same rate as a standard efficiency system, just a whole lot less water going to the drain.
@@water_estore thank you for your knowledge and your willingness to share it.
I inherited one of these systems in a house I just bought. Mine has a pump on it. What does this pump do? When I plug in the pump, it continues to run. Should it shut off on its own? And my tank is empty. How long will it take to fill up this tank?
The pump pushes water through the system, ours don't need a pump. The pump will shut off when the tank is full (well it should) It could take upm to 4 hours to fill the tank.
Can we use the high mineral content water that flow into the drainage for watering plants?is it safe?
Probably not as usually it is high in salts.
Thanks
Thank you for your helpful videos! I am on well water and am researching RO systems. I already have a sediment filter, carbon filter, and UV light for my whole house system, so it seems redundant to get an RO system with these filters again. Are there simpler systems for RO that skip the upfront filters?
No there really are not and you will find that in spite of those whole house filters the filters in the RO system itself still get quite dirty, so you need a 5 stage RO system.
I wouldn't recommend drinking well water even with big blue filters and a UV light. Is a softener being used to keep that UV light sleeve from getting calcium buildup? Remember, if the sleeve is coated with calcium/magnesium the UV light can't penetrate through the build up and effectively kill bacteria going through it.
Oh My god!! I finally found a great explanation of how this actually works. Thank you!!
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Hello sir.. one thing that confuse me is that this system needs a booster motor or not? Is there a pressure requirement for this system to work properly? Your feedback is highly appreciated ty
Booster pump is only need if your water has a TDS of 1500 ppm or higher. You need at least 25 psi for this to work.
Someone was giving away a system like this and I'm so happy I was able to grab it.
... and now you know how it works. If you need replacement filters, we have them here waterestore.com/products/hum-cottage-water-75-gpd-r-o-replacement-filters-membrane?variant=43997846012117
Is it possible for dirty water to backflow through from drain line? If yes, is there a solution? For example, a clog under the sink or after the drain line and the dirty water comes back to the sink.
You can put a check valve on the drain line to prevent that or an air gap like this one waterestore.ca/products/water-softener-air-gap-verneco-va2
How often are you (replacing) changing out the tank?
the tanks usually last about 10 -15 years.
if you have a water softening system do you need a RO system?
Yes you do, they do two different water treatments.
I just changed all 3 filters in my whirlpool r.o. system and now find I need a new tank. If I purge and sanitize the new tank and system, will the clorox damage the new filters ??
Yes, they will. Just remove them while disnfecting.
Also how many gallons can this filter before having to change out??
It depends on how much dirt and chemicals are in your water but generally we repalce the filters once per year and the membrane every 3-5 years depending on your total dissolved solids and if you have a water softener or not.
Will this help with well water that has a fair amount of iron in it even after a water softener system ?
Yes, but the filters will clog prematurely. You are far better off to remove excess iron before the water softener.
How often would the filters need to be changed?
Typically once a year or if you have a large family every 6 months, this video will help ua-cam.com/video/Ldsf7qSxTp4/v-deo.html
@@water_estore awesome thank you so much
Thanks for the detailed info on how it works. I want to buy one but not sure which one I should choose. as you mentioned that the highly efficient memarine waste less water, but I am not sure how I should check for these types of system in store. what should I ask for? Do they understand if I say I need highly efficient system which waste less water, or do I need to use any technical term so that they can understand. Please suggest.
Glad it was helpful! This is our high efficiency model waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Hey Gary, do you have any RO water systems that you personally use and/or would recommend?
Yes, this is the one in my house waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day. High efficiency, uses non proprietary filters, high flow and Made in USA
hi... my ro machine has weird smell at first start everyday. After around 3-5 minute the smell is gone. Which filter do i need to replace? Thankyou
The post carbon fiter. But if you haven't changed them in one year you need to change them all.
Great video Gary, thank you, just a couple of questions though, how often do I need to change any of the filters, and secondly, in one of your other videos regarding bottled water, you said we should consider how long the water has spent in the bottle from when it is bottled to when it is drunk by the consumer, so is this the same with the "water tank for the RO system, with it being plastic is all I'm thinking? 👍
Filters need to be changed every 12 months. Yes, we want to minimize the contact time with water in any container but since you are using water from this every day or at least every month, there is no concern.
@@water_estore I appreciate your reply, thank you 👍
will this block fluoride?
Great question. No, you need a reverse osmosis drinking water system like this to remove fluoride waterestore.ca/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
Hi Gary, thanks for the video. Quick question, does the under sink RO system helps filter salt water as well?
Yes, but it depends on how much salt is in the water before it would clog the membrane.
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This was very helpful. The history was interesting. Thanks.
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What is the working pressure for the system? Can this system provide water for a dishwasher?
No it cannot. Just for a dedicated faucet or fridge or ice maker
Best tutorial, but I’m perplexed:
Our RO system faucet is a 3 tube design.
We want to replace it with a single inlet (water) design as it matches our sink better.
Can we simply route the black “purge” line directly to drain vs. having to pass through the RO spigot?
In simpler words can I bypass the RO spigot.
Forgive my lack of nomenclature.
Thanks, JB
Yes, you sure can.
Very informative! What is the good and waste water ratio again I kinda didn't catch that? Thank you
Depends on the system, kind of like car gas mileage but this video explains more ua-cam.com/video/S17l3Tt6xS4/v-deo.html
Hey pal so will this work with Pacific or Atlantic water
No, but great question. Sea water is beyond their 2,000 ppm limit.
Is it ok If I do not use the tank?
Sure, but the water will dribble out so slowly you'll get frustrated and stop using the system altogether.
thank u for the video! This really helps me for my sci project!!
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Good day Sir. How many % waste water for Goldline?
Thanks
Goldline is about 4 1/2 gallons per gallon. HUM Water Saver 75 is about 11/2 gallon per gallon. It is here waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-reverse-osmosis-system-75-gallons-per-day
I have never cared about this topic and don’t plan on buying an RO system but this video was interesting well done Gary!
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Thanks. It was very clear and helpful information.
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Very informative and easy to understand video. Thanks :)
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Great video. Thanks for taking the time! Learned a bunch!
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Can you tell me how the flowrate of this module!?
It fluctuates depending on how much water is in the pressure tank. But about 1 gallon per minute coming from the tank.
Been in the water business full time for three weeks now. RO's are the most complicated water treatment to learn about. Also the most difficult to work on. Just like anything the best way to learn is to go hands-on. I've noticed there's more differences in models than just the membrane sometimes. Like the new model we install has an "absolute" filter. And the order is sediment, pre-carbon, membrane, absolute, and post-carbon (polishing). As I understand the absolute we use is just to take out one or two nasty things that the rest of the system isn't certified to take out. That's a pretty self-explanatory benefit if the absolute is preventing something nothing else will. So is the benefit of having dual pre-carbon filters that they don't have to be changed as often? Even if so that doesn't change the frequency of change on sediment. If you wanted the best of both worlds I suppose you could put another carbon filter in where the sediment usually goes and put a separate pre-filter for sediment before the whole unit. Perhaps that's what you would do if you were putting an RO in a house with hard, chlorinated city water and they weren't going to buy a softener and backwashing carbon filter? I'm really geeking out on this stuff. This will be my long-term career for sure.
The two carbon filters are for capacity but also contact time. An extra sediment filter will not remove hardness. If customer has hard water with out a softener (within reason) they would just need to replace the membrane more often but it would still work.
A question about this filter system that was described. Many carbon filters call for a 5 minute rinse after replacement I didn’t notice that you had a rinse step in the replacement video, should that be done to avoid membrane contamination?Also I was suprised to learn a little while back that the holding tanks only required about 6 psi.
Do these filters remove fluoride?
Yes they do!
Thank you Gary! Wish me luck, I'm goin' in!!
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