Is Halo 2's Legendary Difficulty Broken?

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • I've taken a few passing shots at Halo 2's Legendary difficulty in my past videos, but it had actually been a really long time since I played through the whole game on Legendary. So, I did a full game playthrough and I'm here to report on it. I'll be looking at all parts of Halo 2's campaign, what I like and dislike, and give my answer as to whether or not Halo 2's Legendary is broken/unfair/too hard.
    I tried a lot of new things in this video, so if you're a returning viewer, be sure to tell me what you think!
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    1:30 Cairo Station
    2:58 Outskirts
    4:45 Metropolis
    6:31 The Arbiter
    8:06 The Oracle
    10:14 Delta Halo
    11:28 Regret
    14:03 Sacred Icon
    15:18 Quarantine Zone
    17:17 Gravemind
    19:59 Uprising
    21:27 High Charity
    23:06 The Great Journey + Final Numbers
    26:08 Outro
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  • @frogarchist
    @frogarchist  10 місяців тому +36

    I just uploaded a new Halo 2 Legendary video that's a lot better than this one. Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/muJb0fJMTO4/v-deo.html

    • @plaguenotprophet7840
      @plaguenotprophet7840 7 місяців тому

      "In the battlefield you have to get creative... Surprise your enemy... You want a secret? Turn the music on, but keep the game sounds on... Clear your mind, think of nothing else but your next move. Play like this until it becomes instinct. Remember son, we've always been faster!"

    • @plaguenotprophet7840
      @plaguenotprophet7840 7 місяців тому

      And Cairo is fully possible without one as I've done it solo with iron, no plasma pistol

    • @plaguenotprophet7840
      @plaguenotprophet7840 7 місяців тому

      Mind you I've beaten outskirts without dying legendary, and yes it was outskirts and yes it was by level skipping on the Pelican and yes I brought a ghost and snipers to cheese the scarab part and then charged with a sniper rifle, even pushed a marine onto the scarab by making him roll. Like I said, creative. And if you can't do that, find cover and dart between it, camp every door if you must

    • @darabyrne2515
      @darabyrne2515 3 місяці тому

      yea but its not as long

  • @atch4764
    @atch4764 Рік тому +473

    8:05 "When i was a kid my Halo 2 playthroughs would always end here because i was absolutely terrified of the Flood" i feel that

    • @atch4764
      @atch4764 Рік тому +30

      @AshTheFlash100 the flood is unbelievably creepy dude, they nailed it. and yeah the flood music also adds to the experience

    • @atch4764
      @atch4764 Рік тому +1

      @G the second i got to 343 guilty spark as a kid i would just quit and be done

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 Рік тому +2

      Imagine being scared by what essentially looks like popcorn

    • @atch4764
      @atch4764 Рік тому

      @@some_shitposting_idiot3023 imagine not

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman Рік тому

      @ashtheflash1005 Feels like you're staring the Devil down as he rebukes Arbiter for his false religion.

  • @crypticcomms
    @crypticcomms Рік тому +456

    Halo 2 was my introduction to the series and that first mission almost defined the series for me. Chief's armor, the covenant drop pods latching to the ship kicking off the alien invasion of earth, and of course the halo jump to the planet. Such an incredible introduction. Great vid btw

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +27

      Thanks brother

    • @TruePacifist201
      @TruePacifist201 Рік тому +10

      It was the same for me. My only experince with Halo before playing Halo 2 was a very brief dalliance with Combat Evolved multiplayer (I never did find out who put CE on the computers at my school), so I went into Halo 2's campaign with no real knowledge of the lore. It was quite the experience for my seventeen-year-old self.

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 Рік тому +2

      @@TruePacifist201 😩 halo 1 is the goat.

    • @Hottactioncop
      @Hottactioncop Рік тому +2

      It was even better back in the day, nothing was as smooth and crisp as halo. That and the 1st game ending with you floating through space and the 2nd starting with you getting awards for what you did in the 1st game and then the fleet admiral giving you permission to go chew ass and kick bubblegum when the ceremony got interrupted was so cool for 11 year old me

    • @yewtewbstew547
      @yewtewbstew547 5 місяців тому +1

      I started with CE in 2001, but even to me that opening sequence of Cairo Station > Outskirts > Metropolis is peak Halo.

  • @tsunderemerc2963
    @tsunderemerc2963 Рік тому +306

    A big factor I always contributed to Legendary's difficulty isn't just the jackal snipers themselves, but the aggressiveness of enemy firing patterns paired with their extra damage. A lot of times it feels like if you get caught out, you just die (also because i'm not a gaming god). It's what makes dual wielding Elites such monsters that may as well be flying jackal snipers. That, and the higher tick rate of MCC makes enemies even more aggressive, which is actually a big factor in why Jervalin chose the OG xbox version of Halo 2 for his LASO deathless run (it also makes some tricks easier like sword flying). On the bright side, it gave me a chance to hear a lot of dialogue from the heretic leader you don't usually hear because you kill him so fast and it adds a little extra to the story.

    • @blackagent4754
      @blackagent4754 Рік тому +20

      Well, of course you're not going to be a "god" since you're just human like everyone else, and no human can become one. Besides that, I've been modding Halo 2 recently and I've found out what makes the legendary so hard. It's the aggressive accuracy stats the AI have in their AI properties, combined with the fact that the player actually has very weak health and shields. Chief has only 30 health points and 70 shield points. This is why you get melted so fast on high difficulties.

    • @wastelandlegocheem
      @wastelandlegocheem Рік тому +6

      Thanks actman

    • @Plaster610
      @Plaster610 Рік тому +4

      what does "higher tick rate" mean? I don't know how to translate it in my language

    • @eldafi
      @eldafi Рік тому +20

      @@Plaster610 in basic terms, in means since the game is running both faster and has a higher fps count, every action the game takes is faster than it was intended for the 30 fps of the OG xbox, meaning enemies attack even faster than before in MCC

    • @Plaster610
      @Plaster610 Рік тому +3

      @@eldafi Thank you! That's really interesting

  • @vaniellys
    @vaniellys Рік тому +127

    Great video ! Halo 2's campaign is also my favorite.
    I think that people remember Jackal Snipers more because it always felt unfair, that they didn't because of their own fault. But Elites dual wielding Plasma Rifles are as much dangerous.

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 Рік тому +11

      Yeah, their fire rate is BS. Even grunts seem to shoot the plasma pistol like a SMG lol

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 Рік тому +3

      ​@@perrytran9504 I remember carefuly shooting each one of them, and hell i was like "how many are there?!"
      I counted about 8-9 bodies maybe, it was hilarious i couldn't figure how many since they all merged on the same place.

  • @pogodanderfluff9390
    @pogodanderfluff9390 Рік тому +91

    That's the weird thing about Halo 2 for me. I've spent decades (not really but almost) at this point, playing it with glitches and skips that I don't think I could play it normally if I tried.

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +38

      it's like opening pandora's box, you can't go back

    • @pogodanderfluff9390
      @pogodanderfluff9390 Рік тому +6

      @@frogarchist Great video

    • @zalabit927
      @zalabit927 Рік тому +17

      I can't play Outskirts without skipping the first area🗿

    • @pogodanderfluff9390
      @pogodanderfluff9390 Рік тому +7

      @Zalabit Yeah, I'd almost forgotten what that first area looked like because as soon as the level starts I jump up where the skull is and skip. 🗿

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@zalabit927 the second part of the first area 💀

  • @generose9083
    @generose9083 Рік тому +721

    Cairo Station is actually one of the hardest levels on Legendary. Definitely was for me and I’ve seen many say the same thing. Your weapons are limited compared to other levels. I don’t know how you found it so easy. It was brutal for me.

    • @analt2379
      @analt2379 Рік тому +30

      On first play through Cairo station was indeed very difficult but on my second one it was incredibly easy only 4 deaths for me if I did it again I would have no doubt in my mind that I could do it without dying I think that when you understand the layout well enough it becomes a cakewalk

    • @facepandaparty
      @facepandaparty Рік тому +107

      It has a BR and a plasma pistol that’s all you need Lmao

    • @analt2379
      @analt2379 Рік тому +14

      @@facepandaparty that's true plasma pistol and br make elites a joke

    • @Swattii
      @Swattii Рік тому +74

      Cairo station is NOT hard. The hardest level by far is the one where Chief spawns and scares the grunt only to get spawnkilled by brutes.

    • @malscyllis
      @malscyllis Рік тому +19

      Sorry that’s gravemind for me. The fact you can get spawn killed in the beginning and later in the lift to the prison.

  • @Chris-dy1cb
    @Chris-dy1cb Рік тому +50

    genuinely felt like i was on the wrong difficulty when i was going through h3 because of how difficult h2 was during my legendary run after MCC dropped.

  • @SavingSoulsMinistries
    @SavingSoulsMinistries Рік тому +45

    I spent over an hour in the first room on grave mind . Talk about controller throwing… I dang near punched a hole through my tv . I was stuck in one of those doors on the side on the last wave of enemies with only a plasma pistol and 30 shots in my needler and 3 plasmas It was maddening . And I couldn’t make it to the carbine in time to get back in the door so I was in a bad spot .. The second you walked out that door you’d be melted in less than a second on most occasions. I finally passed it because of two Hail Mary plasma tosses onto the brute / chieftan and unloading the needler into the rest of the grunts and just prayed they all landed haha ! I still love halo 2 for its overall ruthlessness tho

    • @junfour
      @junfour Рік тому +2

      But then you realize that you can climb up to the auditorium.

  • @dorito6633
    @dorito6633 Рік тому +66

    I agree with you about the high charity levels. Its so interesting to be on the main ship of the covenant, and the way these levels are made just boost this feeling. Having their capital filled with the flood is something else man. During that second level you can feel the emptiness and wrong state inside of high charity, hearing those noises coming from the lower level, seeing those flood tentacles all around the place, its incredible. My favorite levels in the series

  • @andrefloresca1324
    @andrefloresca1324 Рік тому +18

    The never ending jackal snipers on the new mombasa level was insane. No matter how many were killed

  • @DJAdams125
    @DJAdams125 Рік тому +11

    I’ve beaten every bungie game on legendary except Halo 2 and now ima do it! Great video

    • @JW-qd3ol
      @JW-qd3ol Рік тому

      Do it!!! It took me 17 years to finally do it, just like the guy at 0:14, but it's worth it to be like "Yeah of course I beat them all on Legendary!" and then people are like "Ooooh, even Halo 2?" and that's when you get REALLY smug ;)

    • @DJAdams125
      @DJAdams125 Рік тому

      @@JW-qd3ol currently on mission 9 “Regret” and it’s definitely the hardest one so far but I’m slowly working through them

    • @DJAdams125
      @DJAdams125 Місяць тому

      @@Delimon007 even with learning those spawn points with snipers I still had a lot of trouble with the boss fight and gondola sections

  • @Hokiebird428
    @Hokiebird428 Рік тому +7

    My argument about the difficulty being utterly broken stems from how quickly you will go from being in total control of the encounter, full shields, full health, to being dead.
    Also, ask pretty much any former Bungie dev that worked on Halo 2, and they will facetiously apologize to you for Legendary being so hard. Watch the GDC talk by Jaime and you’ll learn that the careful tuning and calibration that every other game recieved for their respective difficulty settings simply didn’t happen for Halo 2. You’ll also learn about critical pieces of cover that got removed entirely due to the limitations of the Original Xbox.
    In that sense, the settings that affect the difficulty of Legendary in Halo 2 are broken.

  • @Ginkami
    @Ginkami 8 місяців тому +4

    *booting up regret on heroic or legendary*
    "it just keeps repeating, regret, regret, regret"

  • @walczak9862
    @walczak9862 6 місяців тому +4

    I cant believe he used the same song for every death montage 💀💀💀💀 i felt like i was going crazy

  • @elensie6897
    @elensie6897 Рік тому +50

    Crazy to finish Cairo deathless in 20 minutes. I think Cairo is in the top 3 hardest missions in this game!

    • @jlouis91
      @jlouis91 Рік тому +11

      My buddy and I were playing co-op on legendary without the noob combo and it took us 3 hours. Up until then we thought we were pretty decent players.

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 Рік тому

      @John Louis Nah you're worse than me at that time I could Solo Legendary at 60fps.

    • @cuyospartan02
      @cuyospartan02 Рік тому +1

      The drone lift section took me at least 15 minutes

    • @izoganovix3739
      @izoganovix3739 Рік тому +1

      ? It’s not that hard to do it under 9 lol

    • @jessh4016
      @jessh4016 Рік тому +5

      @@izoganovix3739 Go away

  • @afflictionu8311
    @afflictionu8311 Рік тому +29

    The only anomaly I'd say is the 0 deaths on Cairo Station. You did well to not die there, but most players die several times on that mission. This is a comprehensive and well done video that really captures the difficulty of Halo 2 Legendary in about the most objective way possible.
    I kept laughing wondering if the montage music would get to "even Rocky had a montage!" part lol.
    Subscribed!

    • @dostwood5103
      @dostwood5103 5 місяців тому

      The Montage song is from Team America World Police

    • @davidrossington9756
      @davidrossington9756 3 місяці тому

      It was actually in South Park first

  • @timebomb42
    @timebomb42 Рік тому +29

    It's a shame you don't have more subs, because holy crap is this amazing content. Everything from your voice, to the editing, to the gameplay, you make it all really high quality. 👍

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +8

      Thanks a ton! I've only been going a little over a month, so in terms of viewers, it's actually exceeded my expectations so far

    • @timebomb42
      @timebomb42 Рік тому +1

      @@frogarchist keep making content like this and you'll be over 10K with a year.
      Dangnam it..... Now I'm going to be singing that montage song for the rest of the afternoon 🤣

  • @Cooperal
    @Cooperal Рік тому +11

    I feel often with this games legendary difficulty that the only way to first-try something is to already know what is coming. With some spawn triggers you are dead meat if you aren't already backing up when the enemies are coming into view. Drones were probably the worst offenders but it happened with classic covenant waves too. Their are too many sly enemy placements for any player to naturally catch every last one of them. That to me feels unfair.
    It can feel cheap because often your first warning of a threat IS unexpectedly dying to it, and dying in this game equates to a light slap on the wrist which makes it easy to brush off that cheapness mentally. Anyone that can pass everything with iron skull will have already gone through rehearsal in some form, whether through painful trial and error or fast tracking with information found online.

  • @Drawliphant
    @Drawliphant Рік тому +6

    This video is criminally underviewed. The editing, the pacing, the script all great. Now I want to boot up another legendary run and also really don't want to fly a banshee. Hopefully ill never listen to that montage song again though...

  • @executable3
    @executable3 Рік тому +12

    I managed to beat Legendary once back at release and it was a nightmare. Jackal snipers and those freaking bosses were painful. I absolutely hated Tartarus! Honestly I wouldn't be able to do that today, I no longer have the patience. I think the difficulty and some of the more boring sections would have been fixed with more play testing because as we all know MS forced the game out when it was still literally unfinished. I'll never get over how we never saw the game end as it was meant to.

  • @michaelletwin9996
    @michaelletwin9996 Рік тому +55

    Would be interesting to do similar tallies for Legendary runs on other Halo games. Hard to draw relevant conclusions because the campaigns and gameplay are so different. But I think it would be a good reality check on what campaign feels the hardest vs. which one actually stonewalled you the most.

  • @Clarkstonie
    @Clarkstonie Рік тому +7

    I held the legendary world record speed run on Metropolis for nearly a decade ( 4 min 30 sec-ish ). It took about 6 hours of practice. I can attest the jackals throughout the level are the most infuriating part... followed by the wraiths ramming you. Nice video!

  • @FGC292
    @FGC292 4 місяці тому +4

    I think what really annoyed the hell out of people (at least me) with H2's legendary is how the Chief's health pool is basically nothing and gets melted by just about anything... Meanwhile the lightly armored marines around you can tank multiple shots from a sniper jackal and be perfectly fine.

    • @Banshee523
      @Banshee523 2 місяці тому

      That's definitely what I hate most about it, personally. It stops pretending at all that Chief is anything special, in fact he's just a weakling p*ssy and the Marines are all superior to him. At least the other games have the Marines die quicker too on Legendary. The way Halo 2 works just ruins any immersion.

  • @theseabear3008
    @theseabear3008 Рік тому +6

    So interesting concept here, as a 9 year old, (im 25 now) i naturally liked exploring. Wasnt trying to speedrun or anything, just tried finding fun ways across. Never found any glitches, but i always took the rooftops in outskirts cuz the skull is up there and therefore its a semi intended pathway. In quarantine zone theres a lot of little parts of geometry in the map that i used to get around some battlefields. One last thing, i noticed you die a lot against close up elites, i just melee stunlock them to death. If they arent mid melee swing or an ultra, they literally cant stop you. Great video though, i loved watching!

  • @jakedowney6743
    @jakedowney6743 Рік тому +4

    Glad I found your channel, good stuff

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Рік тому +28

    Regret was the hardest level for me. What a feeling when I did it. I’ll never forget!😊

    • @porquee
      @porquee Рік тому +2

      On heroic the beginning of gravemind was hardest for me

    • @alanh.5458
      @alanh.5458 Рік тому +3

      That boss fight was such bullshit

    • @ES031
      @ES031 8 місяців тому +3

      It took me a long ass time to realize that you had to get on his throne lol

    • @user-kp5wd2tk5x
      @user-kp5wd2tk5x 3 місяці тому +2

      Same I had a bad spawn on the second gondola and I was stuck there forever. I even best regret faster than that stupid second gondola 😂

  • @SkimoFiend
    @SkimoFiend Рік тому +3

    Just going through you library of videos these past few weeks and only just realizing your under 10k subs, holy hell, keep doing what your doing man, your a youtuber just waiting to pop ! Cant wait to be apart of it!

  • @ezulon97
    @ezulon97 Рік тому +5

    Loved this video. Halo 2 was my first ever game I consciously remember playing.

  • @BearB34R
    @BearB34R Рік тому +1

    Great video :) That training montage song is stuck in my head and you WILL pay for it. But aside from that, great stuff bud.

  • @KeybladeWielderXV
    @KeybladeWielderXV Рік тому +6

    Absolutely agree with you that Regret is the toughest level in Halo 2 on Legendary. The Jackal Snipers are ridiculous on this level and whenever you’re not fighting them, you’re dealing with high ranked Elite enemies. Regrets boss room itself had me dying over and over again. (Mainly due to a bad checkpoint) but the sheer amount of Elites storming in killed me a lot. I was actually shocked how much easier Gravemind was in contrast. Sure the opening is bullshit and so is the prison section, but after that, it’s pretty much smooth sailing. Regret never lets up on the pressure. I both loved the challenge of taking down a Prophet, especially when you’re constantly peering around every corner for something trying to kill you, but the level was the longest and most brutal for me on Legendary.

  • @eskimofr3nzy
    @eskimofr3nzy Рік тому

    Loving the video! I kind of liked the montage song used each time, but understand why you shouldn't

  • @CT-9904-Crosshair
    @CT-9904-Crosshair Рік тому

    Lol loved the teabag at 10:12! Such a classic! I personally continue the tradition and hope you all continue the tradition as well.

  • @TheJohnmurphy516
    @TheJohnmurphy516 Рік тому +6

    Enemy plasma rifles are way too deadly. Like half of your deaths were 1-2 second deaths from plasma rifles

  • @captaincharisama94
    @captaincharisama94 9 місяців тому

    I love your content my dude, my favourite Halo,. I am currently doing all Halo campaigns on normal and then all on legandary, I'm leaving halo 2 for last as it's my fave and the toughest campaign is

  • @zalabit927
    @zalabit927 Рік тому +4

    The fact that me and a friend had to get out of the map to progress after a thousand deaths should say enough.

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Рік тому +13

    I’m going to do my own research here when I get time but I played halo 2 on mcc then started halo 2 on original hardware and noticed straight away how the elites behaved more cunning and brutal. Makes me wonder what else is different.

    • @ninjashoe2158
      @ninjashoe2158 Рік тому +2

      That's because on MCC, the fps is 60, when on original hardware, the game is running on 30. The game, and intern the enemies, are thinking twice as fast.

    • @sandman8920
      @sandman8920 Рік тому

      @@ninjashoe2158 I mean they are more brutal in the original version

    • @DeafeningCha
      @DeafeningCha 5 місяців тому

      How exactly are they more brutal on OG? Their behavior seems exactly the same to me, but now on MCC they fire twice as fast, which to me is more brutal

    • @ajgumpper
      @ajgumpper 3 місяці тому

      I just did that shit at 300 fps on my pc last night LOL but having done it already, my second halo 2 Legendary experience wasn't that bad.

  • @butteredjohn
    @butteredjohn Рік тому +11

    No deaths on legendary on any halo 2 level is impressive

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 Рік тому +1

      Halo 2 legendary is the only halo game i was not able to beat on legendary. In fact i could not get past the first level. 😢

  • @cliche3521
    @cliche3521 2 місяці тому +1

    This channel is my midnight comfort food

  • @DezzarTac
    @DezzarTac Рік тому +2

    5:28 almost domed yourself w/ that sniper richochet!
    that wld've been a sight!

  • @ohno5507
    @ohno5507 Рік тому +6

    For me the unfair balancing is mitigated by how exploitable the game is. Not only do you always have access to a precision/plasma weapon, but the AI is very easy to manipulate as well.
    Also, I am a fellow enjoyer of the Covenant ship aesthetic. Truth and Reconciliation is my all time favorite Halo level, and Gravemind is so much more fun than people give it credit for. Masterpiece levels that showcase great level design, art direction, and how good the sandbox is.

  • @r3al_b00gieboi
    @r3al_b00gieboi 8 місяців тому +2

    For the heretic boss, you can jump on the seraph to see into all the vents where he can spawn from and see which one he’s in. Camp under the vent and once his dialogue stops, pop camo. He will always be the first to exit the vent making him an easy hit each time. Repeat till the fight ends

  • @watchncarry9593
    @watchncarry9593 7 місяців тому +2

    Yeah, the Jackal Snipers force you to check all your corners and clear them in degrees, but the worst part about Legendary is how much of a bullet sponge the elites are. I even tried it with the infinite ammo skull, and it just blew my mind how many rounds they took with just the battle rifle. So yeah, a combo alien weapon (to bring down shields) and human rifle (to finish them off) is definitely the way to gom

  • @BrockvsTV
    @BrockvsTV Рік тому

    This was a wonderful video, thank you

  • @lordcydonia4924
    @lordcydonia4924 10 місяців тому +1

    Getting that first door open on Gravemind took me a long, long time. I remember the elation of doing it and I think actually shouted out in celebration.

  • @stonytrees8573
    @stonytrees8573 11 місяців тому

    The death montage is refreshing instead of seeing you always winning great video

  • @danielsmith3313
    @danielsmith3313 4 місяці тому +1

    Love the video and how it was narrated, got tired of the montage music by grave mind tho

  • @dannydinosaur
    @dannydinosaur 6 місяців тому

    Great video, my dude!!!!

  • @misteranonimous7137
    @misteranonimous7137 Рік тому +4

    Actually, it's kind of funny that you've died so many times during scarab section in Great Journey level. The thing is that during that WHOLE section you can just hide inside a scarab, skipping all the fights. And developers actually predicted, that player can do it, so at the very end, all enemy banshees start flying back and forth toward scarab laser gun like some stupid insects. And all you need to do is just to highjack one of these banshees and fly ahead.

  • @openclose8915
    @openclose8915 Рік тому

    Funny seeing this video as I just replayed Halo 2 on Legendary only a few days ago.
    I wasn't keeping count, but personally the level I found the most frustrating was probably either The Great Journey or Quarantine Zone. In particular, in Quarantine Zone, the parts where you have to disembark from your vehicle to get through a building, then find another vehicle once you get out. Close quarters with the flood and I had little ammo and no good guns. Ended up trying to sneak by them as much as possible, which involved very precise timing with the active camo.

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic idea for a video btw really cool

  • @timelyraccoon8878
    @timelyraccoon8878 Рік тому +2

    Great quality video 😃

  • @lfifil
    @lfifil 3 дні тому

    Legit the only channel the highlights deaths. W channel

  • @arsalansyed123
    @arsalansyed123 Рік тому +1

    Finished Halo Reach and 1 for the first time now I'm starting Halo 2. So excited to play it. :)

  • @praeamble
    @praeamble Рік тому +3

    I have beaten Halo 2 on legendary twice, once on OG Xbox so I could be disappointed by the lack of a legendary ending, and again on MCC so I could get a meaningless achievement. I have no intention of ever playing it again.

  • @redge-ty4cs
    @redge-ty4cs 11 місяців тому

    You did pretty good! I just beat the game on legendary for the first time. I probably died on Cairo Station 30 times before I figured out the noob combo, and 50 times on the Regret boss fight. As difficult as Halo 2 was, it gave the player much more checkpoints than Halo 1. So I could throw myself at the enemy without repercussion. Great video 👍

  • @SirEchoGaming
    @SirEchoGaming Рік тому +2

    I did a co-op legendary MCC run with my friend a while back and we got absolutely destroyed by the jackel snipers. There were parts of halo 2 where the Jackels knew you were there before you were and would preemptively shoot and kill you. It was ridiculous.

  • @timbaleno9269
    @timbaleno9269 Рік тому

    Watching this and going "yep, I know that death" "lol I die there a lot" "oof, I remember that". Great work!

  • @15chagO
    @15chagO Рік тому

    Dude that montage song fits so well with montages.

  • @hoppeanhelicoptertours
    @hoppeanhelicoptertours Рік тому +2

    I feel like I just watched your magnum opus, well done sir.

  • @andynonya1490
    @andynonya1490 9 місяців тому +2

    The Great Journey's remastered cutscene is so much better looking and really does the reveal justice. When the Arbiter reveals the real purpose of Halo you can see in Tartarus's eyes that he believed the Arbiter but after years of being considered lower class citizens in the covenant, he decided to obey orders for the sake of his people.

    • @FantomMisfit
      @FantomMisfit 2 дні тому

      Tbf he probably felt like he was too far in already. He and the Brutes with him got served up on a silver platter while Truth and the rest of the Covenant went to Earth. Truth played the hell out of them. The thing about it is that those on the Ark wouldn't have even died to the Halos firing. It's in a safe spot. (Why Guilty Spark was so concerned about Flood being on the Ark) Truth and those he took with him would've lived while Tartaros and everyone else in the galaxy would've died. Great Journey was a sham and Truth knew it was a sham and just wanted to rule the Covenant and the Galaxy uncontested.

  • @chrismathis5601
    @chrismathis5601 Рік тому

    Having just recently played through this again, I can definitely say you’re better than I am, but the number of in vehicle deaths you had is surprising. Those are my breather sections. But coming freshly off CE, I got stuck on Cairo Station for a long time and it wasn’t because of a bad checkpoint either. Actually it was the lack of a checkpoint where I felt there should have been one in the hangar. Well, both of them really. Compared to delta halo where you seem to hit a checkpoint frequently in the more challenging sections, they are scarce in Cairo.

  • @drosbourn4925
    @drosbourn4925 Рік тому

    This is a good video. Keep it up :D

  • @ANeonGenesis
    @ANeonGenesis Рік тому

    I totally agree with your assessment of the difficulty of Regret. But, instead of the things you pointed out or that were showcased in your deaths montage, the second (if I'm remembering correctly) of the gondola sections was particularly miserable for me.

  • @prrrromotiongiven1075
    @prrrromotiongiven1075 Рік тому +1

    Being able to play on m+kb is definitely a big help for the MCC version. Playing on an xbox controller made this game even more ridiculously hard since things like consistent headshots (necessary for taking down most covenant enemies) and accurate sticky throws become much more difficult.

  • @BeeDaWorker
    @BeeDaWorker Рік тому +3

    Something I learnt from my legendary playthrough
    **don't jump.**
    Almost all the times I jumped to quickly do some damage and hide back again just resulted in a death

  • @MiguelMartinon
    @MiguelMartinon 11 місяців тому

    I took a 2-day break between Quarantine Zone and Gravemind because I needed it.
    Still, I never got frustrated. Not counting the start of Gravemind, the Banshee section in The Great Journey, and the Heretic boss, my deaths felt like my fault as by the end of Outskirts, I just became paranoid of corners, so the snipers were not too large of a problem as I got used to it.

  • @jinksos2
    @jinksos2 Рік тому

    great video, love the montage music. so when do we get to see your halo 2 LASO and legendary speed run attempts?

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому

      speedrun definitely before LASO lol

    • @jinksos2
      @jinksos2 Рік тому

      @@frogarchist great can't wait to watch you suffer, 😀

  • @hyper_lightning
    @hyper_lightning 3 місяці тому

    Great video! Definitely agree that most of it is not unfair, only a couple specific sections. However, I would say that we have to take note that you are a better halo player than most other halo vets and definitely much more knowledgable about little details of the gameplay. Ive got thousands of hours in halo, and 2 on legendary kills me many times more than any of the others. So while not broken, I would say that its very significantly harder than any of the other games

  • @chenrayen
    @chenrayen 5 місяців тому

    I’m new here, I’ll say i that I appreciated the montage and the music. If it got boring/repetitive, I just looked away and did something else (actually I wasn’t watching but listening to the whole thing)

  • @gagnersimple269
    @gagnersimple269 Рік тому +3

    Such an underrated channel

  • @juke37024
    @juke37024 Рік тому

    12:57 The underlying rage in your voice when you said "back at ME." Bruh, major F for respect.

  • @Speculate_Me
    @Speculate_Me 4 місяці тому

    I think back when MCC first released, the campaigns worked just fine so I spent some time trying to beat H2 on legendary at the time, and I died on Gravemind like ~82 times, and it took me a little over an hour and 40 minutes to complete it. Still haven't gone back to try and improve that time

  • @Eno_4815
    @Eno_4815 4 місяці тому

    Respect for playing through on OG graphics. I love Anniversary, and I usually play on it, but the nostalgia of the classic look and feel is hard to beat.

  • @PelinalWhitestrake36
    @PelinalWhitestrake36 Рік тому +1

    Last year I played through the master chief collection on Normal since it was my first time tacking the series. In whole honesty? 2 was definitely the hardest and gameplay wise on the lower scale even on Normal. CE had its hard moments but was kinda consistent (also shotgun and magnum were GOAT) 3 and Reach were only odd the first play through but after that they kinda became a breeze (except for that one flood level in the citadel) and 4 was a cakewalk. But 2 gave me the most deaths and most of them came from High Charity.

  • @FoxySpartan117
    @FoxySpartan117 Рік тому

    I love how for me it's either a breeze or a grind. I still have my original Halo 2 that I run on my 360 sometimes. I love legendary skull hunting. No turning on skulls in setting before you play, gotta work that power grind up like Metroid lol.

  • @vgmasta5348
    @vgmasta5348 3 місяці тому

    Also, that Montage song slaps hard! 😀😀

  • @lyras.9161
    @lyras.9161 2 місяці тому

    Ill never get over Regret ending with Chief jumping on an old man's mobility scooter and punching him to death, I laughed so much I cried.

  • @Alpha1200
    @Alpha1200 7 місяців тому

    11:50 - Maybe it comes down to the fact that I basically have the jackal sniper spots memorized on this level but they never bother me and I barely if ever die to them. So I never found "Regret" particularly hard. "Cairo Station" on the other hand always kicks my ass and I don't know if I've ever gotten through it deathless on legendary. So, idk, it's interesting how people can have such a different perspective on difficulty.

  • @coldfeet1337
    @coldfeet1337 Рік тому +3

    Great video. Only thing is the music during the montages is extremely annoying and unnecessary. Is there a copyright issue with just leaving the halo audio as is?

  • @fearfoxcpu
    @fearfoxcpu Рік тому

    My tip for The Oracle is to get Dual Plasma Rifles before the boss fight. If you play it safe and use cover you should easily be able to take out the Holograms. As for the Heretic himself I'll use active camo to get behind him and lunge a few times with the Energy Sword.

  • @Phickic
    @Phickic Рік тому

    8:03 bro same. I can distinctly remember getting through the first room then opening the door to the elevator and promptly quitting.

  • @lordbaccoon1821
    @lordbaccoon1821 6 місяців тому

    I've beaten every halo game on legendary solo but I've also played every Mcc campaign on legendary with a friend of mine and we love it so much we are running halo 2 with a bunch of skulls on. Love halo 2 legendary honestly. It feels so accomplishing to beat hard sections.

  • @piggosalternateaccount4917
    @piggosalternateaccount4917 Рік тому

    Very nicely done video, well produced and fun to follow.

  • @MrJumps-mp3em
    @MrJumps-mp3em Рік тому

    I remember playing Legendary with the Mythic and Thunderstorm skulls on. Cairo Station was by far the hardest level. When the boarding parties arrive, you're facing mostly all silver and gold elites with barely a decent weapon. The silvers are often dual wielding plasma rifles and have a rate of fire that will kill you almost instantly. There's this one checkpoint where you start off on an upper level behind a crate with some grenades, and I remember if you literally just jump while behind the crate, you'll be dead before you hit the ground. Oh and also those elites can survive being stuck with a plasma grenade, which is basically the only equipment you have at that point. Good times

  • @ShallowContrarian
    @ShallowContrarian 10 місяців тому

    I recently replayed Halo 2 legendary and I had to rewatch this video. I think it's interesting how I now hate the drones way more than Jackal Snipers. I play a lot of cs which means that I'm used to being one-shot by snipers and I play low sensitivity which means it's harder to hit the drones for me. I also struggled on what feels like the opposite levels of you, Gravemind was to me the hardest level and Regret went pretty smooth, Quarantine Zone and Sacred Icon felt pretty easy as well. But Outskirts kicked my ass and so did Uprising.

  • @abelramirez7320
    @abelramirez7320 3 місяці тому

    I only got around to beating it on legendary solo a few years ago. Even back in the day, getting through it on split screen coop was more frustration than a child should ever endure.

  • @user-jm3pt7kq6o
    @user-jm3pt7kq6o 5 місяців тому

    19:09 The elusive halo CE headshot death animation. NICE

  • @riffbw
    @riffbw 7 місяців тому

    My stepbrother and I played this game over and over. We got pretty good at the game and we tag-teamed it well. I'm not as accurate so I would grab full auto weapons and spray while he did precision kills. Worked nicely on Cairo Station. Legendary co-op was a huge shock. Those sniper jackals came out and we quickly realized when one guy dies, we revert to a checkpoint. If you think keeping them from insta-sniping one of you is bad, trying worrying about two of you. After that, it was a rough run, but overall we got through it okay.
    I also think there's a massive upgrade in difficulty in MCC compared to console. Aiming feels off and the speed/timing of everything just feels different. I'm definitely not as good on MCC as I was on Xbox.

  • @bjornthefellhanded5655
    @bjornthefellhanded5655 Рік тому +8

    Interesting, I have ALWAYS loved played through Sacred Icon and Quarantine Zone because they are- to me at least -fun levels where you get to play alongside Covenant Allies against The Flood, the Sentinels(my favorite Unit in any Halo Game EVER is the Enforcer Sentinel, it’s just so cool) AND the U.N.S.C. a little bit. Also the Vehicle Section against The Flood and the Sentinels is just awesome to me.

    • @bjornthefellhanded5655
      @bjornthefellhanded5655 Рік тому +2

      Also I loved playing the Destroyed Sentinel Factory and Gondola Sections like they were Stealth Sections

  • @sirgabriel367
    @sirgabriel367 Рік тому +3

    Great vid. Do you have an estimate on how long it took to edit this?

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому +2

      At least 25 hours

    • @JW-qd3ol
      @JW-qd3ol Рік тому

      @@frogarchist Is there maybe some industry adage or known correlation between an hour of editing for every heavily-edited minute of video?

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Рік тому

      @user-yj3wm9zb9o I think it just depends on what type of video you're doing. If I were editing a vlog, it would be a lot faster. But an hour is probably on the higher end of what's usual.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Рік тому +1

    Love the use of the montage song lol and the editing idea is great 👍🏻

  • @IAMdeathblade
    @IAMdeathblade Рік тому

    Halo 2 was my first halo and got got me into the series back in 2006. I beat the game back then and now in the MCC on legendary easy on solo . I only find it hard on co op since you restart if either player dies …

  • @user-uf4qq7ij5r
    @user-uf4qq7ij5r Рік тому

    That cave part of Delta Halo with the jackal snipers and drones was always the hardest for me.

  • @sandman8920
    @sandman8920 Рік тому +2

    Truth and reconciliation is my favourite ce level too.

  • @ZarkFuckerberg69420
    @ZarkFuckerberg69420 Рік тому

    the team america montage song is hands down the best touch to this vid. Their soundtrack goes so hard

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj Рік тому

      Isn't that the montage song from the skiing South Park episode? They even say "Sports Training Montage!"
      The Team America one is different since it's not on the slopes of Aspen.

  • @Fireheart318
    @Fireheart318 Рік тому

    5:06 Ironically, I beat this section after at least a dozen fails by getting in the gunner seat. The jackals were just as accurate as ever, but whatever spot they aim for was protected by the gun!

  • @DesertRatsGame
    @DesertRatsGame 3 місяці тому

    My friend and I wanted do a classic playthrough of the MCC and revisit our nostalgia. We loved combat evolved and has so much fun on legendary. We got to halo 2 and I rage quit after three levels.

  • @n00bist723
    @n00bist723 10 місяців тому

    As a kid I wasn't necessarily afraid of the flood but I hated the like wave spawn nature and no safe fall back (1 way drops) the flood levels had, also the anxiety of being overwhelmed by rush down enemies was rough for me back then so I would like end up hard halting progression due to not wanting to willingly opt in to diving head first into flood BS. In retrospect it's kinda funny that I would sit there doing like nothing just fucking around in a cleared area for sometimes hours rather then just go do something else or progress. Also I have a weird relationship with the jackal snipers in legendary I actually loved them, especially when coming back to the game years later now that I'm a "gamer" and I have pretty solid reaction times and threat ID. I love the kill or be killed reaction tests (probably 'cause I replayed Outskirts SO MANY times when I was a kid and it heavily influenced me now that I think about it as I was like 10 at the time so formative years), I basically mod all my fallout games to be nothing but jackal snipers (crank the global damage up to like 300%, I kill most enemies in 1-3 hits all enemies kill me in 1-3 hits pretty damn fun).

  • @SharuezPJL
    @SharuezPJL 3 місяці тому

    When I was a kid I didnt really fear the flood. I mean in the first halo I got spooked mainly cuz of the crazy marine and how he was acting built the hype of fear of this new enemy, but when I encountered them I was scared slightly then I was like "they are like the zerg" and became obsessed with them and how cool they were tho what helped me out of being scared of them was the guns I had but from that point on in my other games I wanted a mod that let me play a flood like race. I think I was kinda of a monster as a kid lol.