How To Calculate Maximum Amps For a HHO Dry Cell

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  • @nimocenit
    @nimocenit 10 років тому +47

    you guys know whatever happened to Mike? it's been 2 yrs since his last upload...just curious...

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому +3

    Yes, at less than 2 volts/plate gap it gets a little more efficient but the output gets too low to really be usable. 2 volts is about perfect. Rule of thumb is 1/4 - 1/2 lpm of HHO for every liter of engine size.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +4

    Amp draw is determined by the amount of electrolyte you mix with distilled water. The stronger your mix, the more amps you will draw. The closer your plates are together (thinner gaskets) the more amps you will draw also. 1/16" gaskets are a good thickness.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +3

    Yes, I know all about converting AC to DC with a bridge retifier but you will need a very big cell (61 plates) to compensate for all the volts.

  • @truthseeker959
    @truthseeker959 10 років тому +5

    Hi, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but if as you say the cell takes 18A and you want to use more Amps you say connect more cells to it. But won't the current flow from both directions? Taking the picture where you have 3 stacks, then on the Left you have a +ve, then the neutral plates, a -ve, then more neutral plates, then another +ve etc etc.
    Surely both of these +ves will feed the -ve plate that sits between them, which in turn will allow more Amps?
    Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, but current doesn't flow just Left to Right or Right to Left, it will flow +ve to -ve ( O'k, without getting too technical, electrons go -ve to +ve )
    Sorry if I got this all wrong....

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    Yes, JC that would be correct. As long as it is 8.5 x 8.5 of exposed plate surface. Good job!

  • @MM-sb1gd
    @MM-sb1gd 11 років тому +2

    Mike, can you give us details on how to control the amperage going to a dry cell. You mentioned using a PWM to do this, but can you explain just how that is done.
    Thank you for all the work you do for us!

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    No, the PWM is used to control the output by adjusting the volts/amps.

  • @ashraffarnawani8397
    @ashraffarnawani8397 10 років тому +2

    What is the thickness of the plates?
    and if the distance between the plates were increased, what would happen to the resistance and amp(would it increase or decrease?), and what would happen to the temperature?

  • @Hydrogen4Health
    @Hydrogen4Health 12 років тому

    Can you explain how you have come to this conclusion. What is the formula? Is this what you think or is there some science behind it?
    I like it, great video.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +2

    Add more electrolyte if you need to draw more amps. If you add more and it does not go up then you need to make sure you have enough power to handle the amps. Either a stronger alternator or battery charger if you are on the bench top. Other than that it's hard to say without seeing it.

  • @robertswickard2526
    @robertswickard2526 10 років тому +4

    Is there a formula for mixing your electrolyte?

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    No, it does not have to be square, just about any configuration will work, and yes less vertical surface might help a little.

  • @joeybalbasHBCA
    @joeybalbasHBCA 10 років тому +2

    How often do you have to refill the hho systems? No one ever talks about that so if you have this information I would love to know thank you.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    That sounds pretty normal. Try and keep the temperature down in the 100 - 110 degree range. You are probably getting close to making some water vapor as well at 130 degrees.

  • @mark156531
    @mark156531 11 років тому +1

    Mike, I like your videos but you don't talk much about the application to use the HHO generators in. I saw one video where you showed them used to run a torch. Do you use them in any other application? What about on your vehicle? Is your vehicle supplemented by HHO gas and do you get improved gas mileage?

  • @jcglessner
    @jcglessner 11 років тому

    Mike I hate to ask this because I don't want to sound dumb or like I don't understand what you're saying. I think I understand but I just want to make sure.
    I'm building a dry cell clearing 8.5x8.5
    So I should be able to drive one "stack" of 1+, 1- and 5 neutrals to.....36amps?

  • @cronoss2004
    @cronoss2004 11 років тому

    Hi Mike.
    What ratio of potassium hydroxide is necessary for a good electrolyte solution (Ex. 1 Liter)?
    and...
    The babbler needs regular water or distilled?
    Thanks.

  • @woody3d697
    @woody3d697 11 років тому

    I saw all the videos, thank you for ur valuable info! I have a question.
    What is the ideal thickness of steel to make a Dry Cell?
    Thank you very much.

  • @ghastin1
    @ghastin1 12 років тому

    Mike; does the cell have to be in a square configuration or could it be 2" high 12" long. I am working on a application that requires a low profile, and also less vertical surface might mean faster response. What are your views on this is surface area just surface area?

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    For starters I would add another neutral plate. Either drop two plates to make a 19 plate cell or add 4 plates to make a 25 plate cell. Regardless you should be getting much more production now. The only thing I can think of is either the cell is very dirty inside (is the water dirty?). If so you need to flush out the cell and use distilled water and 316L plates. If the water is clean, I'm guessing that you have a leak or leaks in your setup and are making much more HHO than you think.

  • @FNSICK
    @FNSICK 12 років тому

    Mike, I recently bought some titanium plates to build a small dry cell, the only problem is the metal is SO STRONG, i lubricated the drill bit and it still takes 10 minutes to drill one hole... any suggestions? also i was curious as to if itd be smarter to do holes like this cell or just three 3/8ths holes down the center of each plate? I bought all the supplies but gave up after failing to drill the holes. Where can i get them laser cut?

  • @MCPanasoni
    @MCPanasoni 11 років тому

    Ok thanks Mike. Since the water doesn't have electrolyte, will I need to space my plates a lot closer? And will it pull more amps than if I was using electrolyte or not. Thanks so much for the help :)

  • @rahuldesai1557
    @rahuldesai1557 11 років тому +2

    I have 304 Stainless Steel can it produce the Hydrogen as much ?

  • @01wizmiles01
    @01wizmiles01 12 років тому

    hi i made my own dry fuel cell and put -nn+nn-nn+nn- and the size of each plate is 12cmx12cm and its reading on my ampmeter 9-10 amps im also using Na0H and 316L plates. what do you think is that good or should i put more n plates. thanks for your great videos.

  • @nikita3615
    @nikita3615 10 років тому

    Nice work that you have done, I need to ask if you couldbuild a dry cell for just 0,7 l per minute for my Honda 1,5 civic 1999,,which woulduse more then 12,5 amps !!! and how much it cost to sent it to Portugal with a eficiente PWM ?
    thanks and oone again congratulations for your good work

  • @1krstn
    @1krstn 11 років тому

    I was wondering if I installed one on my truck, how do I keep it from freezing in the winter? Will is still work if it is frozen?

  • @nadeem5476
    @nadeem5476 12 років тому

    ok thanks and noted that they are just plates those are not connected with anything . but i see numerous times the WIRE is coming out from the neutral plates as well ! where that wire is going then ?

  • @Bikandee
    @Bikandee 12 років тому

    Hi Mike, is it true that you shouldn't go less that 2 volts per neutral and how many liters of hydrogen is enough for a 2.4liter vehicle? Thanks Darren

  • @MrGispawn
    @MrGispawn 11 років тому

    Hello, I just wanted to be sure about the 3/16 plates..Is it thickness? cause if I convert it to millimeters it shows 5milimeter and those plates dont look like that thick. Please advise..Thanks

  • @alandell999
    @alandell999 12 років тому

    Hey Mr.Mike what about Stainless steel 304 ? Coz here in Azerbaijan Republic there is no Stainless steel 316 !! Can you tell if I can make a dry cell with that ? Thanks .by the way great video .

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    Plates can be any size. Use 1/16" gap.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    The plates should be at least 20 gauge in thickness if you are not going to sand or media blast them. They should be at least 18 gauge if you do sand or media blast them.

  • @hydrogenforce
    @hydrogenforce 11 років тому

    Very educative information there, thanks for sharing, cheers and best regards, Tan K.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    I really don't know where they got these numbers from. I am not much of a scientist but I can tell you from practical experience, they seem dead on. If you want to get into specifics like you mentioned, I suggest going to the forums. Those guys have forgotten more than I know. I just learn from others and test it. If I think it works, I pass it on to others in my videos.

  • @yassersharif
    @yassersharif 12 років тому

    hello Mike
    I was just wondering what do you think would happen if i attached a transformer to a 12 v battery and got lets say 0.5 v and like 300 A. would i be able to attach lets say 50 plates and still produce insane amount of HHO with just 0.5 V

  • @skylargray7103
    @skylargray7103 12 років тому +1

    sir mike, is there any required thickness of ss316 to be used.
    thank you

  • @meatoffender12121
    @meatoffender12121 10 років тому

    I wanted to make a wet cell, due to the materials available I'll probable have two shorter stacks sitting side by side and was wondering about the power supply. I'm going to have a 12v 8amp (about) supply and I was thinking of either having one per set or one for both. Any opinions?

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    You can use Titanium plates, I don't know about having them coated. There is no advantage to using Titanium however despite what some might tell you. At least that is my opinion.

  • @KrapinskiPurgeri
    @KrapinskiPurgeri 12 років тому

    Dear Sir.
    I am thinking abaut starting my own project but I am confused with your mesaures. It is all in inches and I work in milimeters. Can You give me an idea in that sistem? And also I was woundering, because of the rust of the steel plates, can I use copper plates? Thank You, and waiting for reply...

  • @jaimemarcial69
    @jaimemarcial69 12 років тому

    mike you rock your like the Mr Rogers of hho nice video

  • @khffamily
    @khffamily 11 років тому

    hi mike
    i have find the problems, it was my gaskets it makes all cell dirty .
    what kind of rubber quality u'll suggest to use as gasket?
    all the best

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    I only know the plate thickness by gauge, which is either 18 gauge if you are going to media blast the plates or 20 gauge if not. I think it converts to a minimum of .812 mm without media blasting and 1.024 mm if you do media blast.

  • @Bikandee
    @Bikandee 12 років тому

    I read somewhere that going over 3 volts per neutral creates losses through heat, true? If you're generating 1/2 lpm of HHO per liter, what are the savings? 20-30% Thanks.

  • @rahuldesai1557
    @rahuldesai1557 11 років тому +1

    Which is the best for electrolyte KOH or H2SO4 ?

  • @Hhydrogen4Power
    @Hhydrogen4Power 11 років тому +1

    great video... October 3rd on Smart Scarecrow we are unleashing the dragon....

  • @RadiantFreeEnergyResearch
    @RadiantFreeEnergyResearch 12 років тому +1

    Great video. Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @hammysmad
    @hammysmad 11 років тому

    Is citric acid (like in jif lemon juice) not supposed to be an electrolyte? I don`t know how much you would need but it is supposed to work.

  • @marcelocabrera9490
    @marcelocabrera9490 11 років тому

    Hi Mike.
    I build My HHO system and the connection I make is the same you show in the videos
    battery - fuse - PWM - VAC meter - dry cell, and I get 2 AMPS. in the system and is not stable what I doing wrong?????, the battery is a marine battery 1000 Amps. and I don't now what else I can do can you help me please.
    Tanks.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    You will get some production with tap water because of the minerals in the water but not that much. You will get very dirty water in a short time due to all the minerals in the water though.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    At least 20 gauge if you are not going to sand or media blast. If you are planning on media blasting the plates then go with at least 18 gauge or thicker.

  • @prasenjitbiswas7564
    @prasenjitbiswas7564 11 років тому

    Between Two Plats How Much Gaping Is Best For Wet Cell & What Is The Dimensions Of The Plates. I`m Using 12 Volt.

  • @spundyo9
    @spundyo9 10 років тому +1

    mike how many lpm do you think I would need to hook up to 454 chev silverado 1977 model,,,,,,(no computers) and make a
    difference to my fuel economy Les (Australia)

  • @2693am
    @2693am 11 років тому

    hi mike ..thank you for ur valuable info in ur videos! i am working on my clg project.
    i hv a 13 plate(7"X7"X 3mm ) 304ss cell . i am using KOH as electrolyte .gap between the plates is 3mm. can u plz help me out about the power supply configurations like how much volt and ampere battery should i use to run the cell ?

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому +1

    Don't use 304 stainless, you will get a lot of rust and crud in the water.

  • @prasenjitbiswas7564
    @prasenjitbiswas7564 11 років тому

    ThankYou For Your Response. I Have One More Question That How To Mix Electrolyte For 12 Volt Car Battery (Electrolyte Composite For 12 Volt Car Battery) Please Help Me I Have No Idea.

  • @luckyhappy9194
    @luckyhappy9194 11 років тому

    Sir, is the there any book to study about Dry cell HHO as you are explaining here............

  • @akarshsivaprasad3493
    @akarshsivaprasad3493 11 років тому

    hi mike, what type of plate arrangement do u suggest which is the best??

  • @khffamily
    @khffamily 11 років тому

    hi mike i would like to ask u one more thing .
    what if i use 0.5mm thick L316 plate don't you think i'll produce more gaz with low AmP?
    thanks

  • @Sandeep2701
    @Sandeep2701 12 років тому

    125cc motorbike with 12VDC, 5Mah battery. What size of plates do I need and how much hho do I need exactly?

  • @wiggymccrackin8240
    @wiggymccrackin8240 10 років тому

    Wow didn't know that. Thanks for posting this video

  • @johnmurzrea
    @johnmurzrea 10 років тому

    Mike what do u think about yes 316 l plats but 1/8 11 gauge what is best gauge thank u

  • @nguyenthienbinh430
    @nguyenthienbinh430 11 років тому

    Could u tell me how much HHO gas i need for a 125cc engine ?? Maybe 50-60% i hope ?? Do u have any formula for this ?? Thank you so much !!!

  • @Maurice419
    @Maurice419 10 років тому

    Mike are you still selling kits? I went to your web site and it was down. Let me know.

  • @tattoostudio666
    @tattoostudio666 12 років тому

    lol-it's very nice to watch u again :] - cose u give away some nice things again!
    Ihave stucked with my project ... but ... propobly it has to ;]
    regards! :]

  • @rafij01
    @rafij01 12 років тому

    This will apply with 24 battery too, or will be 1+ 9n 1-

  • @hammysmad
    @hammysmad 11 років тому

    When it comes to using 110 Vdc, would the same apply only to 50 plates per cell?

  • @prayfortruejustice
    @prayfortruejustice 12 років тому +2

    Mike do you happen to know if there was actual science (chemistry and math) or empirical testing (trial and error for results) behind Zero's "rule of thumb". What types of electrolyte does this rule apply to? (Acids, bases, KOH, etc.) You mentioned that this is for 316L Stainless, but the electrolyte probably has a major impact. Does this have anything to do with passivization or reaction to electrolyte?
    Thanks for your posts, you always present very well.

  • @nadeem5476
    @nadeem5476 12 років тому

    please Let me know where to connect the neutral plate ? i mean with positive plate we connect it with battery positive terminal and negative to negative but where we will connect the Neutral plate / connection ?

  • @gulshansinha2575
    @gulshansinha2575 11 років тому

    we are giving 18 amp current or drawing it, because our input is voltage. I mean how much voltage i can supply for 36 in2 plate. also i want to know how much gram of KOH i should add in 1.5 ltr of water.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.... I guess I better buy some sweaters!

  • @MrALJawder
    @MrALJawder 10 років тому +3

    do you have design and how to build hydrogen and oxygen separation dry cells ? ????? I am really pissed cannot find someone give any information about it

  • @TheGoodInventor
    @TheGoodInventor 11 років тому

    i got 1.1 liters/min using 12V 18 amps battery and the temperature is 130 F
    is that good or bad?

  • @prasenjitbiswas7564
    @prasenjitbiswas7564 11 років тому

    Which Metal Is Best For HHO Generator

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    It sounds to me like your plates are not really 316L. If you are 100% certain that they are then my next guess would be that you are not using distilled water. Are you using tap water or spring water? If so then minerals from the water will cause this. If you are using distilled water then the only other thing I can think of is you are either getting contamination from another source or you are using far too many amps causing impurities to leech from the plates.

  • @hholover1
    @hholover1 11 років тому

    what would happen if you use ( Graphene ) sheet's instead of steel plates ... just think how thin you could make the cell's if im right the electricity current will not have the resistance of the steel plates and amp should not infection the water with the steel by over heating ... just idea iv been thinking about

  • @punittakodara007
    @punittakodara007 11 років тому

    sir, i am working on HHO dry cell for quite long.i m suing 316L SS plates of 6x4 and i am using a 35 amp transformer and KOH as an electrolyte.my problem is i am getting lots of dirty water....i request you to please provide me with a solution.....Thank you.

  • @barabolak
    @barabolak 12 років тому

    You are very helpful. Thank you

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    Yes, but I am very busy these days and it might take a while for me to get back to you.

  • @175griffin
    @175griffin 10 років тому +2

    hey hho guy, i need your help with an experiment. i noticed your website domain expired so i cant email you this question. i hope you check your youtube comments. i was wondering if you ever tried using ac power. with the proper wavelength, it could resonate and increase the efficiency. i have no idea if this would work, just a theory of mine. you could turn your 12vdc into ac at the same voltage with a 555ic and a high power transistor pretty easily. unfortunately my hho cells are too unreliable to experiment with, but your cells and equipment could definitely test this theory. ill build an ac converter that can withstand full power to the cell and have adjustable sin wave AC. with the distance between the plates, i can calculate the frequencies that should work and make it easy to set to those frequencies. reply to me so we can work out a plan if you want to help me with this experiment. ill build the ac thing and ship it to you at my expense, i just really want to see if my idea has any potential to increase efficiency.

  • @prasenjitbiswas7564
    @prasenjitbiswas7564 11 років тому

    Who Produce The Amp ? By Me Or Drawn By The Cell. Please Help Me

  • @yassersharif
    @yassersharif 11 років тому

    well a transformer is used to convert amps to volts or volts to amps so by reducing your volts you can increase your amps

  • @tordherflower
    @tordherflower 12 років тому

    sir,can i use thick 0.5mm steel plates?thanx for inf

  • @khffamily
    @khffamily 11 років тому

    hi
    how r u?
    i have done a dry cell 5'x5'( -nnnn+nnnn-nnnn+nnnn-) 21 plates i do not know what did i do wrong!?!?!?! in 40Am i get only 1/2 lpm .what should i do to get more HHO?
    thanks

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    Use either Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide. I don't know about how safe they are, they can burn you if mixed too strong. There might be safer electrolytes but none that I know of that work as well.

  • @luckyhappy9194
    @luckyhappy9194 11 років тому

    how to find the area of electrode required to supply 15 ampere current ?? from one video i know that 6" x 5" (30 square inch which is double 15 ampere) is enough for that but how we can find it mathematically ??? ???

  • @MrMfraley
    @MrMfraley 12 років тому

    useing 12 v whats the best thing to use to get high amps,,like 400 amps

  • @Artur777ini
    @Artur777ini 12 років тому +1

    hello my friend! i'm from Brasil and your teaches reallly help me! here we dont have any data about this.
    well, the question is about a cell that is available in Brasil. the caracteristics are: 21 plates of 18pol2 (4 neutrals) the seller says that his cell can make 1.5 liter/min, with 6 amps. is that possible??? I'm asking because that apears to be no possible... thaks for your atention!!! sure I'll keep sein your videos and learnin with your channel! HHOCONNECTION!!! thanks a lot! see ya.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    Yes but your water will turn yellow or brown because of the impurities leaching from the stainless steel.

  • @rahuldesai1557
    @rahuldesai1557 11 років тому

    Can I Use 12 V, 70 Amp Relay Instead of PWM ?

  • @y0k0z00na
    @y0k0z00na 12 років тому

    How in the world are you going to get 300 A from half a volt?

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  12 років тому

    Where did I say that? I think you need to watch the video again.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    Eu não posso postar links aqui, mas assistir a todos os meus vídeos e você vai aprender tudo o que você precisa saber.

  • @rahuldesai1557
    @rahuldesai1557 11 років тому

    Why use a bubbler in HHO What is The Reason ?

  • @michaelparker5891
    @michaelparker5891 10 років тому

    What happened to your website? Why is it not up?
    Michael

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому +1

    No need to get testy NOBOX. I'm just going by what others have told me and what I have seen on UA-cam. Just do a search for Titanium dry cells and you will see a couple. Yes some have both Titanium and 316L, but some say 100% Titanium. I still say use 316L stainless though.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    The plates are 18 gauge.

  • @MCPanasoni
    @MCPanasoni 11 років тому

    Oops, sorry, I accidentally hit send. I was just wondering how a dry cell that uses pure tap water with no electrolyte will perform? I want to make that as a science project, but it am unsure how many plates and amps I will need to put into it.

  • @centralcoastoffgrid
    @centralcoastoffgrid  11 років тому

    I don't think it will produce more gas, it will just be able to handle more amps without over-driving the cell.

  • @ugotboost
    @ugotboost 12 років тому

    What all do you use your hho for. Do you run it in your car or just torches?