Hi Mike, You are doing a great job with your videos and tips about efficiently building a hho system. However, desrcribing in detail the process of gas being created, then being transfered to the water/electrolyte deposit tank and then going right through the bubler to the place where it is used (a) torch, (b) car air intake etc whould really demistify the whole process for those who are building their hho system from scratch (including of course me). A few questions that i can come up with are: - What is the purpose of the holes drilled on the metal plates (upper and lower holes)? - Where exactly does the gas have to come out of the cell? - Does pressure increase if the cell gas outlet is blocked while electrolysis is taking place? - What is the way the gas has to follow after the cell? - Is the water/electrolyte mixture tank the next stop? - What happens in there? - Where does the gas go after the water/electrolyte mixture tank? - Is the bubler just a tap water tank just serving as flash back arrestor? - Would filtered tap water be suitable for electrolysis without any electrolyte added or will conductivity be too low for adequate current to flow through? Even though i get it in general terms, there are details not described in your videos. You could prepare a few drawings that show the exact purpose that holes and tanks serve all the way up to the point where the gas reaches the last stage. What do you think? Could you consider doing anything like that? Thanks in advance. Manos
Thanks a lot Mike for the info! I almost lost interest in HHO because of the problem of not having an efficient flashback arrestor but having viewed your videos renewed my interest. The development and propagation of this technology will help a lot of people especially here in our country which is the Philippines. Thank you once again. Elmer Policarpio
I looked this guy up when I started out with HHO, he was very helpful, you will learn a lot from him. i had so many questions i wanted answered and i thought he was very detailed and that was a big help Thumbs up for hhoconnection
Just wanted to say thinks Mike for taking the time to make these videos. I wish I would have found you before my first wet cell explosion. I had just called my wife out to show her how the HHO popped when lit as I was amazed at the power! Some how the flame jumped through the bubbler and bang! I was using 40 pvc, a bomb turns out. I spent the rest of the day pulling pieces of pvc out of my cheek and my wife was not impressed after finding out I was still alive. LOL . If wet use soft rubber maid!
I don't know the metric conversions but most people use 1/16" gaskets. Some who work with larger volumes of HHO like to use 1/8" gaskets. They say it helps to keep the gas from getting backed up in the cell.
Thanx for another great video, I am about to build my first dry cell. I have built wet cells, but by watching your videos, I have seen that a dry cell is far more efficient, and much safer. I will be going to your website to view the plans and kits available, keep up the good work.
Mike, You must be tired of all the questions, but let me ask you about ideal (or near) spacing between plates, which we could also translate to thickness of gaskets that we should use (having in mind they would squeeze a bit when tightened). I know it has to do with resistance and electrolyte solution, but you might have heard some common opinions of the cell builders? Greatly appreciate your answer. Not to mention that your series is absolute HHO primer to me, for which I glorify You. Thanks!!
Thanks for the video, you did a great job with your presentation. As one who has studied thermodynamics, I've long been a skeptic of HHO, maybe alternators really do waste this much energy? As a scientist, I was quick to notice a possible typographical error in your presentation of production rate. I think you mean 1 Liter of gas produced in 45 seconds, but it was written 1 Liter produced in one minute, equal to 45 seconds. Cheers
@maksimmus5 As Homer Simpson would say, DOUGH! I guess that would be helpful. That cell has 13 plates and the dimensions are 9 1/2" x 5 1/2" and the gaskets are 3/8" wide. Thanks , I'll put that in the description.
@Cloudy2Clear You only need to add one extra neutral (total of 6 neutrals). If you media blast the plates, seal the holes with Weldon 16, and mix your electrolyte at full strength your cell will probably never overheat even without a PWM.
Hey Mike, thanx for your uploads, I learn a lot watching your videos. Could you please tell us the plate gap, and the dimensions ie width x height how many neutral plates....nice cell ...!!
No, refill with straight distilled water. If you notice that your amp draw starts to go down then add a little electrolyte, let it run for a while check the amps again. Keep adding small amounts of electrolyte until you get the desired amp draw.
Mike, I think I might have been unclear so you could have misunderstood my other question abouth WIDTH of the gasket which is not the thickness, but the measurement that you can see as you look at the surface of the plate with gasket on it. The gasket makes a "frame" at the plate edges. I search for the minimum gasket "frame" width to save plate working surface.
Hey Mike, I just did the coating with weld-on and i am about to make some tests this weekend, thank you for your great Videos ! You can check what i did here: BIG HHO 113 Plates "Big Mama" Assembly Part 2/2 BIG HHO 113 Plates "Big Mama" Assembly Part 1/2 Ps: I Did the alternating water holes too, looks great for now...
I have flash "ports" on all my bubblers but not my reservoirs (the white tanks). If you mean the big clear tubes, then yes I have flash ports on all those, most of which are bubblers and a couple of reservoirs in the same style.
Thanks for your quick response! It's atleast no problem to install it in the trunk?...because everyone builts it in the engine compartment itself. I have another car (Mazda Xedos 6) and there is not room at all to built it in the engine compartment at all.
Thank You! I am trying to build as efficient cell as I can. In order to do so, I collect all tips I can find and put them together in my project. I was going to make the gaskets thin (1/16") as you say. Would you be also kind to advice on practical minimum width of the gaskets? I see people make quite wide frames, which I find not good since they're lowering active surface of the plates. There's also pressure tightness issue... I was thinking of 5mm (0,2") at the most. What do you think of that?
getting an actual MMW is way more complex then what the hho community discloses, first you have to account for the gas trap temp for water vapor pressure and then you need the barometric pressure , then you use standard ideal gas law eqautions to determin volume at STP this then can give you the actual ml per watt. look up pv = nrT , i know i sound like an ass but im really just sharing a common lab practice that seems to be neglected often. did you know 10 deg c in temp rise can cause a 35 cc change in volume , and a hot day and a rainy day have drastically different barometric pressures, as do high altitudes also up to 3.5 percent of you gas is water vapor so perhaps it doesnt matter given there application .
Hi hhoconnection. Great job and thanks for making this videos in a professional way! Some people says that you can improove efficiency by using high frecuency current. Have you some experience or comment about using high frecuency?
So far nobody that I know of has been able to get any improvements in output by using high frequencies. Stanley Meyer claimed to have done it but so far nobody has been able to replicate it.
Hi Mike, Great video's really well explained.Hats off to you,I'm in the process of building my own dry cell.Just 1 question .On the end power plates do you need to have holes in them or are they best left solid? I can see why any power plates in the center of the cell to allow water through but the only reason i could see to put holes in the end plates is for cooling. Keep up the good work,many thanks Stewart,Essex,UK (refrigeration engineer)
If I understand the math. 80L/h at 231W means 346L/kw. 1/9th of HHO is Hydrogen (by weight). 80L weighs 3.57g... 0.4g of H/hr and 1.7g per kwh (per 3.6 MJ) "241.8 kJ of energy (LHV) for every mole (gram) of H2" = 411kJ per 1kw (10 cents) input. HHO is 4.11 MJ /$ of hydrogen (not including the optimized packaged burning agent oxygen) gasoline is CAD$1.30/L , and so 32MJ per $1.30 = 24.61MJ/$. HHO has to help gasoline burn 6x more efficiently or get 6x more efficient gen, or gas up 6x $.
Could one use this cell at 13.7v with an additional neutral plate on each side? Looking to build an efficient cell that is not prone to runaway heating/current rise. Maybe not need expensive current-limiting hardware. This particular cell design looks promising for efficiency and low maintenance. Excellent thoughts on reducing current leakage and improving HHO flow.
very cool that you posted the staggerd manifold idea. i just recently thought of this concept while studying shunt currents in cells, i actualy built one like this and found it worked great at low amprage but on high out put the cell would starv itself so i bored holes straight threw the cell and guess what , the data speaks for itself i went from 4.6 lpm to 3.3, all becuase i removed my staggerd manifold ducts :(
Thanks a lot for sharing your info I think you are using dc power source, have you ever considered using a low voltage ac power and experiment different frequencies just to find the most efficient state of the cell.
Mr. hhoconnection didn't mention that; because you have Hydrogen and Oxygen mix - you getting the perfect explosive combination. But If you'll be able to split and collect Hydrogen only, it would be absolutely safe* to store it in any state (liquid or gas) (*MSDS a must)
Just a thought, I'm thinking about running generator on 100% wood gas or syn-gas, the only problem with syn-gas is it burns a lot slower than gasoline.(less horsepower) So what I'm thinking about doing is adding HHO to speed up the burn rate of syn-gas closer to the same level as gasoline. If if only helps a little that's fine, it will still be no gasoline used at all.
Good video! I've always wondered about media blasting. Sure seems to have done justice on Larry's Magnetic Beastie. Having said that, I also wonder; if you are increasing the surface area, and surface area and current draw are related, are you not just increasing draw? Perhaps if the overall performance is better, and results are undeniably better... is there maybe something else going on, bubles "not clinging together"; as in, surface tension? Just a thought. Thanks.
Mike great tips. Can I suggest you going out and getting an accurate current meter. If your going to be doing mmw test and documenting them on a video you need to get some accurate equipment. That pwm screen is not accurate. You need a fluke.
So on that T-Connection, when you aren't closing it up with your finger you have hydrogen leaking out into the room? Or am I misunderstanding how that works? Great video, super informative thanks! btw by pwm do you mean pulse width modulation?
Hey Mike--This may be a stupid question, or one that has been brought up by subscribers before; How does the exterior surface area of the plates (metal outside of the gaskets) affect heat control and HHO production? In other words, would extra surface area on the exterior of the cell dissipate heat more efficiently, or would it be a zero-sum game and result in less efficient HHO production?
Hi Looking to join the wonderful world of hho, I have a 99 Chevy s10 fully rebuild engine 4.3L bored .20 with a .500 cam on it. Have been doing a lot of research into hho systems and components but I find my self thoroughly overwhelmed with all that information!!! I thought of building my own but lack the equipment to build a good sturdy system, and between wet, dry, separation cells and components I want to cry!! Found some reasonable companies on line but prices fluctuate so much for same kits so I need help!! Please!!!!!
i like the vid, but i have a question. does the weld on 16 cause foam the primary bubbler? other adhesives i have used caused huge foaming problems thanks
You obviously got a backfire which caused a flashback in the HHO line. That is why you need to have a flashback arrestor. Also why you need a flash port (pressure relief valve) on your bubbler.
I would like to see scientific test running without some of the enhancements you mentioned and then adding one change (at a time) to see the difference in performance.
Hi Mike, As the rpms on the engine increases, how the amount of HHO is increased? Or, is the HHO production constant? Is it possible to run an engine 100% on HHO? Please, help.
i'm building a dry cell like that on the video,rectangular,and with alternating bottom holes,but i want to know if the top holes are alternating either?,or they're go straight trough the cell
@nyaligatoraron you can use a 2 part epoxy tape one side of the plate the other side pore the epoxy let dry 24 hrs then sand it smooth redrill the hole smaller the ring will be protected from the water and the electric use west system that works the best i tried it and got great results ran the cell hot and nothing went wrong
i've heard that if i use some kind of acid for electrolyte my water wont get dirty after a couple of hours of use and the platest wont corrode as much.Could you tell me the advantages and disadvantages of using for example sulfuric acid for electrolyte?if there are any advantages,thank you!
whanna ask... as more plates you put meens mot HHO... does more HHO means more miles for a car... and could i use Titanium as a plate or does it have to be stainless steel... is Titanium better runs better??
I installed my hydro kit in the trunk of my Mercedes W124 Station, where the spare wheel is. Everything worked great till after about 50 miles driving, a very loud bang!...the bubbler exploded!! (it completely cracked on the left and right side) Do you have any idea what went wrong? I don't want this to happen a seccond time.
Hi watch your video and I wanted to try building one... Question I have lots of galvanize plate in my garage, can they be use? I know about the rust factor of metal in water. been in the navy so I know about Cathodic Protection. I was thinking since your stainless steel is more heavier than my galvanize plate. would galvanize not release more current due to the metal structure of current lease exit path law. thank in advance and this question goes out to any of your fans who have try galvanize
please Let me know where to connect the neutral plate ? i mean with positive plate we connect it with battery positive terminal and negative to negative but where we will connect the Neutral plate / connection ?
and something else?and after my water level is low,and i have to refill the tank,should i put the same amount of electrolyte in the new water?or there is remaining electrolyte in the tank,from the previous water?
sir i will be building my hho cell after 25th of april, thats when my exams get over, i am building this cell for my 100 cc bike, its 0.1 liter 4 stroke engine, i humbly request u to give me suggestions for getting max efficiency from the cell, the main problem is that i cannot use the dry cell because i cannot house the reservoir in it, so i can only use a wet cell, can u suggest me some electrode designs please sir,
No, not really. You would need to run the cells from an external power source to create enough HHO to run the engine which defeats the purpose. How much HHO you make depends on how much electrolyte you use. The more electrolyte you use, the more amps you draw and the more HHO you make.
Yeah, I quit the film industry and moved away from the LA area so now I am focused on trying to start a new career and make some money. If I can get caught up financially maybe I will take some time and make some more videos. I stopped allowing comments without approval a while ago. People can be real A-holes sitting behind their keyboards where nobody can see them. I don't have any patience for that. I have no problem with criticism, just be civil about it or go somewhere else to rant.
and there is any kind of problem that HHO can cause to my engine?for example oxidation or something,corrosion,etc that would damage my cylinders,pistons,rings,etc?
"You would need to run the cells from an external power source to create enough HHO to run the engine which defeats the purpose" and that purpose is being able to make HHO in the car? I have heard people use salt or baking soda as electrolyte. what do you use?
The amount of oxyhydrogen needed to run an internal combustion engine is spectacular. Idling a small engine (e.g. 5hp) would require 500-1000 LPH (liters per hour), while idling a car engine One liter of gasoline contains approximately 30MJ of energy, while oxyhydrogen gas would contain approximately 7-8kJ per liter. This means that you would need approximately 4000 liter is that possible to make 4000 L/H oxyhydrogen with e 12 v. 34 amp car battery .
Hi Mike,
You are doing a great job with your videos and tips about efficiently building a hho system. However, desrcribing in detail the process of gas being created, then being transfered to the water/electrolyte deposit tank and then going right through the bubler to the place where it is used (a) torch, (b) car air intake etc whould really demistify the whole process for those who are building their hho system from scratch (including of course me). A few questions that i can come up with are:
- What is the purpose of the holes drilled on the metal plates (upper and lower holes)?
- Where exactly does the gas have to come out of the cell?
- Does pressure increase if the cell gas outlet is blocked while electrolysis is taking place?
- What is the way the gas has to follow after the cell?
- Is the water/electrolyte mixture tank the next stop?
- What happens in there?
- Where does the gas go after the water/electrolyte mixture tank?
- Is the bubler just a tap water tank just serving as flash back arrestor?
- Would filtered tap water be suitable for electrolysis without any electrolyte added or will conductivity be too low for adequate current to flow through?
Even though i get it in general terms, there are details not described in your videos. You could prepare a few drawings that show the exact purpose that holes and tanks serve all the way up to the point where the gas reaches the last stage. What do you think? Could you consider doing anything like that?
Thanks in advance.
Manos
Thanks a lot Mike for the info!
I almost lost interest in HHO because of the problem of not having an efficient flashback arrestor but having viewed your videos renewed my interest. The development and propagation of this technology will help a lot of people especially here in our country which is the Philippines. Thank you once again.
Elmer Policarpio
I looked this guy up when I started out with HHO, he was very helpful, you will learn a lot from him. i had so many questions i wanted answered and i thought he was very detailed and that was a big help
Thumbs up for hhoconnection
Just wanted to say thinks Mike for taking the time to make these videos. I wish I would have found you before my first wet cell explosion. I had just called my wife out to show her how the HHO popped when lit as I was amazed at the power! Some how the flame jumped through the bubbler and bang! I was using 40 pvc, a bomb turns out. I spent the rest of the day pulling pieces of pvc out of my cheek and my wife was not impressed after finding out I was still alive. LOL . If wet use soft rubber maid!
I don't know the metric conversions but most people use 1/16" gaskets. Some who work with larger volumes of HHO like to use 1/8" gaskets. They say it helps to keep the gas from getting backed up in the cell.
You put out some of the best HHO videos, Thanks!
@crystian20101 No, do not use baking soda. Use either KOH (Potassium Hydroxide) or NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide)
Thanx for another great video, I am about to build my first dry cell. I have built wet cells, but by watching your videos, I have seen that a dry cell is far more efficient, and much safer. I will be going to your website to view the plans and kits available, keep up the good work.
Best video I've seen on the HHO Dry-cells... good collection of tips...!
Mike, You must be tired of all the questions, but let me ask you about ideal (or near) spacing between plates, which we could also translate to thickness of gaskets that we should use (having in mind they would squeeze a bit when tightened). I know it has to do with resistance and electrolyte solution, but you might have heard some common opinions of the cell builders? Greatly appreciate your answer. Not to mention that your series is absolute HHO primer to me, for which I glorify You. Thanks!!
Thanks for the video, you did a great job with your presentation. As one who has studied thermodynamics, I've long been a skeptic of HHO, maybe alternators really do waste this much energy? As a scientist, I was quick to notice a possible typographical error in your presentation of production rate. I think you mean 1 Liter of gas produced in 45 seconds, but it was written 1 Liter produced in one minute, equal to 45 seconds. Cheers
@maksimmus5 As Homer Simpson would say, DOUGH! I guess that would be helpful. That cell has 13 plates and the dimensions are 9 1/2" x 5 1/2" and the gaskets are 3/8" wide. Thanks , I'll put that in the description.
@Cloudy2Clear You only need to add one extra neutral (total of 6 neutrals). If you media blast the plates, seal the holes with Weldon 16, and mix your electrolyte at full strength your cell will probably never overheat even without a PWM.
@memcu30 DO NOT USE ALUMINUM! It will react violently with KOH or NaOH. Use only 316L stainless steel, period!
Most people use 1/16" Neoprene gaskets. You can go with 1/8" but you will need to mix the electrolyte stronger.
Hey Mike, thanx for your uploads, I learn a lot watching your videos. Could you please tell us the plate gap, and the dimensions ie width x height how many neutral plates....nice cell
...!!
Simple question to some maybe....If you increase the size of the plates what happens ? Increase in HHO production ?
soon i will post a video that shows how much better the stagered manifolding works then inline electrolyte ducts. thanks for posting
No, refill with straight distilled water. If you notice that your amp draw starts to go down then add a little electrolyte, let it run for a while check the amps again. Keep adding small amounts of electrolyte until you get the desired amp draw.
Mike, I think I might have been unclear so you could have misunderstood my other question abouth WIDTH of the gasket which is not the thickness, but the measurement that you can see as you look at the surface of the plate with gasket on it. The gasket makes a "frame" at the plate edges. I search for the minimum gasket "frame" width to save plate working surface.
Hey Mike, I just did the coating with weld-on and i am about to make some tests this weekend, thank you for your great Videos ! You can check what i did here:
BIG HHO 113 Plates "Big Mama" Assembly Part 2/2
BIG HHO 113 Plates "Big Mama" Assembly Part 1/2
Ps: I Did the alternating water holes too, looks great for now...
I have flash "ports" on all my bubblers but not my reservoirs (the white tanks). If you mean the big clear tubes, then yes I have flash ports on all those, most of which are bubblers and a couple of reservoirs in the same style.
What about using rubber gromets in the hole?
Thanks for your quick response!
It's atleast no problem to install it in the trunk?...because everyone builts it in the engine compartment itself.
I have another car (Mazda Xedos 6) and there is not room at all to built it in the engine compartment at all.
Thank You! I am trying to build as efficient cell as I can. In order to do so, I collect all tips I can find and put them together in my project. I was going to make the gaskets thin (1/16") as you say. Would you be also kind to advice on practical minimum width of the gaskets? I see people make quite wide frames, which I find not good since they're lowering active surface of the plates. There's also pressure tightness issue... I was thinking of 5mm (0,2") at the most. What do you think of that?
Thanks so much for your great video !Take care
great video, this might spark me to get into HHO, thanks
getting an actual MMW is way more complex then what the hho community discloses, first you have to account for the gas trap temp for water vapor pressure
and then you need the barometric pressure , then you use standard ideal gas law eqautions to determin volume at STP this then can give you the actual ml per watt.
look up pv = nrT , i know i sound like an ass but im really just sharing a common lab practice that seems to be neglected often. did you know 10 deg c in temp rise can cause a 35 cc change in volume , and a hot day and a rainy day have drastically different barometric pressures, as do high altitudes also up to 3.5 percent of you gas is water vapor so perhaps it doesnt matter given there application .
Hi hhoconnection. Great job and thanks for making this videos in a professional way!
Some people says that you can improove efficiency by using high frecuency current.
Have you some experience or comment about using high frecuency?
So far nobody that I know of has been able to get any improvements in output by using high frequencies. Stanley Meyer claimed to have done it but so far nobody has been able to replicate it.
Hi Mike, Great video's really well explained.Hats off to you,I'm in the process of building my own dry cell.Just 1 question .On the end power plates do you need to have holes in them or are they best left solid? I can see why any power plates in the center of the cell to allow water through but the only reason i could see to put holes in the end plates is for cooling.
Keep up the good work,many thanks
Stewart,Essex,UK (refrigeration engineer)
If I understand the math. 80L/h at 231W means 346L/kw.
1/9th of HHO is Hydrogen (by weight). 80L weighs 3.57g... 0.4g of H/hr and 1.7g per kwh (per 3.6 MJ)
"241.8 kJ of energy (LHV) for every mole (gram) of H2" = 411kJ per 1kw (10 cents) input.
HHO is 4.11 MJ /$ of hydrogen (not including the optimized packaged burning agent oxygen)
gasoline is CAD$1.30/L , and so 32MJ per $1.30 = 24.61MJ/$.
HHO has to help gasoline burn 6x more efficiently or get 6x more efficient gen, or gas up 6x $.
Hi Mike,
can you show me the difference b/w coated & uncoated holes & current leakage as a result?
Hi Mike. What ratio of potassium hydroxide is necessary for a good electrolyte solution (Ex. 1 Liter)? Thanks
Could one use this cell at 13.7v with an additional neutral plate on each side? Looking to build an efficient cell that is not prone to runaway heating/current rise. Maybe not need expensive current-limiting hardware. This particular cell design looks promising for efficiency and low maintenance. Excellent thoughts on reducing current leakage and improving HHO flow.
Do a search for the "smack booster". He has plans floating around the internet somewhere.
very cool that you posted the staggerd manifold idea. i just recently thought of this concept while studying shunt currents in cells, i actualy built one like this and found it worked great at low amprage but on high out put the cell would starv itself
so i bored holes straight threw the cell and guess what , the data speaks for itself
i went from 4.6 lpm to 3.3, all becuase i removed my staggerd manifold ducts :(
Great 1 Mike! How many plates is the cell and what dimension.Txns for the great tips.
Can you show us how the middle round plastic barb is placed in the middle rectangle opening?
Thanks a lot for sharing your info
I think you are using dc power source, have you ever considered using a low voltage ac power and experiment different frequencies just to find the most efficient state of the cell.
thank you mike you are wonderful and i trust you
Mr. hhoconnection didn't mention that; because you have Hydrogen and Oxygen mix - you getting the perfect explosive combination.
But If you'll be able to split and collect Hydrogen only, it would be absolutely safe* to store it in any state (liquid or gas) (*MSDS a must)
" use Potassium Hydroxide (KOH) or Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH)."
how much does that cost?
hey mike, have you tried a honey comb holed plates? Will it be more efficient? can you make a video when you tried one. Thanks.
thank you for this video… i need the curreng source that you are using…. where i can found it.. thank you
Just a thought, I'm thinking about running generator on 100% wood gas or syn-gas, the only problem with syn-gas is it burns a lot slower than gasoline.(less horsepower)
So what I'm thinking about doing is adding HHO to speed up the burn rate of syn-gas closer to the same level as gasoline.
If if only helps a little that's fine, it will still be no gasoline used at all.
ok...thanks....I'll take a look
That was a 13 plate cell with 5 neutrals setup like this -NNNNN+NNNNN-
Are there flash back arrestors on your big reservoirs Mike?
Good video! I've always wondered about media blasting. Sure seems to have done justice on Larry's Magnetic Beastie. Having said that, I also wonder; if you are increasing the surface area, and surface area and current draw are related, are you not just increasing draw? Perhaps if the overall performance is better, and results are undeniably better... is there maybe something else going on, bubles "not clinging together"; as in, surface tension? Just a thought. Thanks.
Mike great tips.
Can I suggest you going out and getting an accurate current meter. If your going to be doing mmw test and documenting them on a video you need to get some accurate equipment. That pwm screen is not accurate. You need a fluke.
Yes, I just let the HHO vent into the room. And, yes PWM stands for pulse width modulator.
So on that T-Connection, when you aren't closing it up with your finger you have hydrogen leaking out into the room? Or am I misunderstanding how that works? Great video, super informative thanks! btw by pwm do you mean pulse width modulation?
Hey Mike--This may be a stupid question, or one that has been brought up by subscribers before; How does the exterior surface area of the plates (metal outside of the gaskets) affect heat control and HHO production? In other words, would extra surface area on the exterior of the cell dissipate heat more efficiently, or would it be a zero-sum game and result in less efficient HHO production?
Hi
Looking to join the wonderful world of hho, I have a 99 Chevy s10 fully rebuild engine 4.3L bored .20 with a .500 cam on it. Have been doing a lot of research into hho systems and components but I find my self thoroughly overwhelmed with all that information!!! I thought of building my own but lack the equipment to build a good sturdy system, and between wet, dry, separation cells and components I want to cry!! Found some reasonable companies on line but prices fluctuate so much for same kits so I need help!! Please!!!!!
Are the positive and negative connections just on the first and last sheet of metal in the cell?
How many stacks do you have? And what size are your plates?
Mike what type of gaskets is he using?
Thanks for sharing. "D"
i like the vid, but i have a question. does the weld on 16 cause foam the primary bubbler?
other adhesives i have used caused huge foaming problems
thanks
If you doubled the number of plates in a dry cell would that increase the amount of HHO created?
You obviously got a backfire which caused a flashback in the HHO line. That is why you need to have a flashback arrestor. Also why you need a flash port (pressure relief valve) on your bubbler.
I would like to see scientific test running without some of the enhancements you mentioned and then adding one change (at a time) to see the difference in performance.
Hi Mike,
As the rpms on the engine increases, how the amount of HHO is increased? Or, is the HHO production constant? Is it possible to run an engine 100% on HHO? Please, help.
i'm building a dry cell like that on the video,rectangular,and with alternating bottom holes,but i want to know if the top holes are alternating either?,or they're go straight trough the cell
@nyaligatoraron you can use a 2 part epoxy tape one side of the plate the other side pore the epoxy let dry 24 hrs then sand it smooth redrill the hole smaller the ring will be protected from the water and the electric use west system that works the best i tried it and got great results ran the cell hot and nothing went wrong
with the dry cell do you have to use stainless or could you you use aluminum
nice video. i would like to try this.thanks
a lot.
i've heard that if i use some kind of acid for electrolyte my water wont get dirty after a couple of hours of use and the platest wont corrode as much.Could you tell me the advantages and disadvantages of using for example sulfuric acid for electrolyte?if there are any advantages,thank you!
Hey Mike have you tried the punch 120v 55 plate and the 220v 110 plate cells? I'm looking at purchasing one. Do they perform like they claim?
Lee
whanna ask... as more plates you put meens mot HHO... does more HHO means more miles for a car... and could i use Titanium as a plate or does it have to be stainless steel... is Titanium better runs better??
hi Mike please could u tell me how the water is contained in the HHO cell?
They would have to be REALLY thin, otherwise they would block the water flow.
You need to scrub out the electrolyte from the water vapor before putting it into your engine . Look up bubblers and dryers.
I installed my hydro kit in the trunk of my Mercedes W124 Station, where the spare wheel is.
Everything worked great till after about 50 miles driving, a very loud bang!...the bubbler exploded!! (it completely cracked on the left and right side)
Do you have any idea what went wrong?
I don't want this to happen a seccond time.
hey what are the dimensions of those plates and what is the thickness of they thanks
can any of the devices you build run the car on water alone without gas?
how much more HHO is created when you use an electrolyte?
How many neutral plates does the unit on the video have?
Hi watch your video and I wanted to try building one... Question I have lots of galvanize plate in my garage, can they be use? I know about the rust factor of metal in water. been in the navy so I know about Cathodic Protection. I was thinking since your stainless steel is more heavier than my galvanize plate. would galvanize not release more current due to the metal structure of current lease exit path law. thank in advance and this question goes out to any of your fans who have try galvanize
There are many dry cells out there with bolts outside the plates. Forget wire mesh though, too much current leakage.
please Let me know where to connect the neutral plate ? i mean with positive plate we connect it with battery positive terminal and negative to negative but where we will connect the Neutral plate / connection ?
and something else?and after my water level is low,and i have to refill the tank,should i put the same amount of electrolyte in the new water?or there is remaining electrolyte in the tank,from the previous water?
sir i will be building my hho cell after 25th of april, thats when my exams get over, i am building this cell for my 100 cc bike, its 0.1 liter 4 stroke engine, i humbly request u to give me suggestions for getting max efficiency from the cell, the main problem is that i cannot use the dry cell because i cannot house the reservoir in it, so i can only use a wet cell, can u suggest me some electrode designs please sir,
No, not really. You would need to run the cells from an external power source to create enough HHO to run the engine which defeats the purpose. How much HHO you make depends on how much electrolyte you use. The more electrolyte you use, the more amps you draw and the more HHO you make.
Yeah, I quit the film industry and moved away from the LA area so now I am focused on trying to start a new career and make some money. If I can get caught up financially maybe I will take some time and make some more videos. I stopped allowing comments without approval a while ago. People can be real A-holes sitting behind their keyboards where nobody can see them. I don't have any patience for that. I have no problem with criticism, just be civil about it or go somewhere else to rant.
God bless you !thanks
On this cell I think it was shower pan liner. Since then he has switched to Neoprene.
What size are the plates that Aron Hues used?
That PWM is made by Hydrogen Boost Now. They are 10-40 amp PWM's and they are available at my website.
and there is any kind of problem that HHO can cause to my engine?for example oxidation or something,corrosion,etc that would damage my cylinders,pistons,rings,etc?
It would basically be a very expensive heat sync. I think there are cheaper ways to cool the cell. 316L stainless steel is very expensive.
"You would need to run the cells from an external power source to create enough HHO to run the engine which defeats the purpose"
and that purpose is being able to make HHO in the car?
I have heard people use salt or baking soda as electrolyte. what do you use?
please kindly explain to me how the water is contained in the cell
thanks
Thankyou !!
I'm not convinced the "dry cell" is the way to go. I'm more inclined to believe the "Dehydrated cell" holds greater optimization....
thanks
The amount of oxyhydrogen needed to run an internal combustion engine is spectacular. Idling a
small engine (e.g. 5hp) would require 500-1000 LPH (liters per hour), while idling a car engine
One liter of gasoline contains approximately 30MJ of energy, while oxyhydrogen gas would
contain approximately 7-8kJ per liter. This means that you would need approximately 4000 liter
is that possible to make 4000 L/H oxyhydrogen with e 12 v. 34 amp car battery .
Not directly, only more amps will give you more HHO. Adding more plates will allow you to use more amps without over-driving the cell though.
hi mike
what would be the liquid solution proportions
for wet cell for a moped ?????
@nyaligatoraron No, it will come off. People have tried just about everything you can think of and Weldon 16 seems to be the one everyone settled on.
What brand PWM do you have there?
by your experience mike whats is the diff if the struc is +nnnnn-nnnnn+ does it make any sense? tia