Nice touch.I was raised on Shelley Manne , the ‘melodic’ drummer- check the Poll Winners CD’s from the 60’s , I learned from Ray Brown Barney Kessell and Shelley about trading fours totally musically.
Thanks. Good question. You can discuss the form layout before hand with the other musicians so going into the tune you know the structure. Often times though with veteran players, signals are given while you're playing. It could be a look or in something the pianist or horn player might play while looking at you. Some will hold up eight or four or two fingers to cue trade bar lengths. Choruses are the number of times through the song form. If it's 32 bars it's usually once or twice through...depending on the tempo but all songs aren't 32 bars. A blues is 12 bars. Someone might do an over the head circle motion meaning to keep going or to tap the top or their head to mean start the melody at the top. These cues usually happen if nothing was discussed before hand. These cues are pretty universal. Just have to learn them. I hope this helps a bit.
Thanks Neal. I'm feeling the sections more than counting them. If you're counting them as you play it will conflict with your ideas. Always better to feel it and play with a certain melodic and rhythmic continuity. You count at first to understand it intellectually then feel it. I usually have some sort of rhythmic point of departure to expand my ideas over.
Your shirt describes you to a T, lovely stuff and great advice, thank you‼️✌️
Thankyou very much , I'm tryin to get my head around 4s & 8s at the moment , slowly gettin there , ....fabulous playin ...🙂👍
Some GREAT information here! Timeless. 👍🏻🥁
Great stuff! Very helpful. I am a new study at jazz drumming and really love this material. Thank you for putting it out.
Thank you!
Excellent video
Te agradezco muy especialmente tus enseñanzas. Muy interesante la musicalidad. Gracias
Nice touch.I was raised on Shelley Manne , the ‘melodic’ drummer- check the Poll Winners CD’s from the 60’s , I learned from Ray Brown Barney Kessell and Shelley about trading fours totally musically.
thanks for the good advice !
thank you. Jae for another video!
You are quite welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the informative lesson !! Very helpful !
You're welcome. Thank you!
Amazing
Very useful for the soloist too, when he has to count. Sometimes you panic!
Thanks so much Jae. How do you know when to stop the trading or when its going to shift from 8 to 4 to 2?
Thanks. Good question. You can discuss the form layout before hand with the other musicians so going into the tune you know the structure. Often times though with veteran players, signals are given while you're playing. It could be a look or in something the pianist or horn player might play while looking at you. Some will hold up eight or four or two fingers to cue trade bar lengths. Choruses are the number of times through the song form. If it's 32 bars it's usually once or twice through...depending on the tempo but all songs aren't 32 bars. A blues is 12 bars. Someone might do an over the head circle motion meaning to keep going or to tap the top or their head to mean start the melody at the top. These cues usually happen if nothing was discussed before hand. These cues are pretty universal. Just have to learn them. I hope this helps a bit.
@@jasinnett Thanks so much for the clear and concise answer.
I can hear some mean Tony licks in there! When you're soloing over a whole chorus are you counting bars or singing the melody in your head?
Thanks Neal. I'm feeling the sections more than counting them. If you're counting them as you play it will conflict with your ideas. Always better to feel it and play with a certain melodic and rhythmic continuity. You count at first to understand it intellectually then feel it. I usually have some sort of rhythmic point of departure to expand my ideas over.
Hi, Jae, do you have a program on WHRV, Norfolk, Va?
What cymbals are those? (More specific than just sabians) Sounds good 👍
As a bass player, I love to trade fours with the drummer!
Drummers can get complicated. Not resolving or maintaining the underlying rhythmic feel thereby other members must pay close attention to the time.
He kinda sounds like the fletcher guy from whiplash lol
he kinda looks like him too.