I've seen a lot of Open Gate explanations, but this is the first time I've seen it explained to me and actually compels me to try it myself. Nice work sir.
LUMIX always has so many amazing features and abilities on their cameras that are so easy to navigate and use. I loved using their GH4 and GH5/5S cameras! Glad to see them doing some great stuff here.
Totally! They’ve been doing some great stuff for a while now. I love seeing it all culminate in their full frame lineup because I’m a full frame snob haha 😂
I hang out in B&H pro video so they show me a lot of fancy cameras. Interestingly, Lumix was the first recommendation. FX6 the second, Alexa the third 😂😂😂😂
One thing to keep in mind when creating vertical content from a 16:9 ratio, is that you'll get less blur in the background, because you need to increase the distance to the subject. On the other hand, turning the camera 90 degrees lets you get closer even when using open gate, which increases the blur (if this is something you like/need). Other than that, I wish I had open gate on my camera too! Nice video btw.
Set this for "Save Later" cuz I've gotta get some stuff done today, but I wanted to come to say the thumbnail is fantastic. Also can't wait for Open Gate on more cameras
Thank you for this explanation it really helped me understand much more as I am primarily a musician and sound engineer/ producer of music, over the last couple of years I’ve learnt a lot by teaching myself video production and editing , so I can create music videos to accompany the tracks we have recorded. I’ve learnt a lot of really useful and great techniques but there’s always so much more you can learn and miss when try to teach yourself and more often than not you end up going down your own road and having tunnel vision, it’s the same when recording and producing music by yourself, when the other band members are present I always find it’s much more creative as having other peoples ideas and techniques always gives the tracks addition feel, flavour, character and dynamics that may not of thought of. The video aspect of which ratio I should ideally film in has caught me out a number of times and when editing and post production I’ve lost parts of the frame I expected or wanted to be there. So cheers this explanation has made me think about this and understand what I should be doing when actually recording video. Big thanks Steve
Thanks for the breakdown. I never really understood why folks were so interested in open gate, but this makes a lot of sense! Thanks for sharing, Dunna!
So true. Just bought the S5II and can't wait to shoot in open gate as I love the ability to go vertical easily and not lose as much resolution. Open gate needs to be a thing on all these hybrid cameras going forward, just like global shutter should be.
super easy to understand the open gate concept. I'm a newbie and didn't understand why other people was so exciting about the open gate 6K on S9. Now, I know. Thanks
Since i received my S5IIX I film every talking head shot in open gate. Such a usefull thing. I just posted my first video on the Lumix yesterday. I am curious on your takes on this beauty. Greetings from Germany.
I am really looking forward to that. And even though I really enjoy the Lumix, I hope this will make Sony put in a bit more effort on certain things like Updates. Thanks for all your great work! You were one of the most important channels for me to start my own UA-cam jouney. @@dunnadidit
I think open gate for filmmaking is the best use of that feature. Taking an open gate shot and cropping to a vertical video, which most people view on their smartphones, seems like overkill since they really wouldn't notice the difference in quality on such a small screen.
It's not just the quality. If you switch to vertical and you have more height, you also get more width to play with. If you film a person you can position the frame in a way that the head is more or less in top of the frame, cut a lot at the bottom for 16:9 and vertically you get the full person right in frame. I use open gate sometimes when filming in streets and I want to avoid converging lines on interesting buildings. I can keep the camera horizontal and cut a lot away from the bottom of the image. The effect is the same as using a shift lens. I use M43 so I have even more room to shift.
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch Oh yea, I am in full agreement with the reframing choices open gate gives you. It’s the use in vertical videos that I think it becomes overkill.
It really depends... it just gives you a little bit more flexibility in the aspect ratio but it's nothing that can't be achieved with proper framing. I know I definitely wouldn't use it to track motion like someone walking across a scene because you are going to lose parallax and add some weird motion artifacts. Open gate or not you aren't losing any image quality by changing your aspect ratio. It's when you decide to crop in on your aspect ratio that you will lose resolution in both open gate or standard 16:9. Adjusting your aspect ratio would simply be taking a 9:16 clip out of your 16:9 shot or 3:2 open gate shot from top to bottom. The result would be an image that looks a bit more zoomed out from the open gate sensor which can be equalled by proper framing in the 16:9 sensor, and likewise you can crop in on the open gate sensor to match the 9:16 of the 16:9 sensor and again the image quality would be identical and if you cropped in from there on both 10x you would still lose the same image quality on both (presuming same sensor resolution etc). Not to mention you lose the potential for higher frame rates ie slow motion when shooting open gate... unless you're Arri of course... even still 90fps isn't a lot. The "professional" reasoning behind shooting open gate is to match aspect ratios in post and alleviate the need to do multiple takes framed in different aspect ratios. It's a very cinema camera feature designed around saving money on set and in post. All in all the benefits are really not that ground breaking and don't offer any major advantage over a standard sensor. There's a far more dramatic effect between an APS-C image at 35mm focal length and a Full Frame 35mm focal length than shooting from 16:9 to 3:2 open gate!
Most of my clients are looking for HD, so I've been shooting 4K Anamorphic with a Non-Anamorphic lens on my Lumix GH5s for that Open Gate effect. It's been working pretty well as long as I don't forget to leave myself some breathing room on my shots for editing.
All the reframe stuff @ 6K "Open Gate" same as I do with 8K on the R5C when you have enough pixels and the right lens open gate doesnt matter :) you can reframe all day long. Camera probably wont handle the full sensor at full resolution, so it could do a 6K oversample similar to this if they wanted, but it would just be an alternative to filming in 8K as the camera already super samples from the larger part of the sensor when recording in 4K. To be fair, editing 6K footage will be faster/easier for most people. 8K editing is demanding.
Absolutely! Cameras are so good today I don't feel much of a need to upgrade for quality reasons. But this is more a workflow reason that could sway me to upgrade my R5 or BM Pocket cameras down the line.
A perfect thumbnail and great tips for open gate shooting. I use the GH6 for my day job and as much as I hate that camera the IBIS and open gate are it’s saving grace since I’ve got to do so many different cutdowns for different aspect ratios quickly. If they gave me great open gate on my A7siii I’d never even consider Panasonic. The flexibility is just too helpful.
Open gate is especially useful for cropping to 4:3 because then you can use the full height of the sensor compared to cropping the 16:9 video to 4:3 where there is a decent amount data lost at the top and bottom of the sensor.
Yes, I think this could be the next game changer for creators. I've already figured out my own way to get the best out of my resolution but this solution seems so simple and efficient at the same time. Let's see how this development will roll in the future and thanks for this video :)
Open gate is definitely something that I'm looking forward to becoming a norm. The capabilities of open gate recording just gives me so much more flexibility in post that it is the only reason why I'm having such a hard time deciding between a Sony A7 IV and the Lumix S5 II.
Open gate sounds sick! This is what I need for my workflow. I hate having to capture vertical separate from horizontal or going to 1080p for vertical using the same clips. Thanks man
As a Sony user I'd more than just love this feature as it is slowly coming a necessity. I've already lost a client/marketing company to the Panasonic users in the area as Opengate has become a bit of a buzz word that all social media company's now want!
With having the R5c and R5 I feel when I shoot in 8K without over sampling although it still restricts you to 16:9 i have a lil wiggle room in post BUTTT way to go Panasonic for allowing that feature for the value it’s industry leading we need more companies like this !
I've just bought the S5iiX, can't wait to use it on an upcoming trip... quick question, doesn't the opengate only support 4:2:0 colour, not 4:2:2 like the other modes (4K etc)? Do you think this is an issue if shooting V-LOG & producing your own grades?
The OG S5 (yes not the S5 II/IIX) has "open gate" video recording at 30P as well, but is hidden in the menu. Change camera mode to "M", change selected burst mode (I use II) to use 6K Photo, change mode to S/S (shutter start/stop). Limited to 15 minutes per recording, but you can select 3:2 (5183x3456) and 4:3 (4992x3744) aspect ratios and even set Photo Style to V-Log. Includes audio! My understanding is that is also 200Mbps bit rate recording. I've used it successfully for far better Anamorphic than the official "Anamorphic 4:3" mode on the OG S5. Hey Panasonic, why not move it to the video menu in a future firmware for the OG S5 as a friendly gesture for the older camera owners? Anyway, any older OG S5 owners, enjoy "open gate!"
Shooting Open Gate is literally a money making feature, as you can sale/generate multiple deliverables with a lot less effort (not shooting everything twice) and in better quality (resolution, and less distortion than when just shooting vertical)
Great explanation about OPEN GATE - until this week I've never heard of it - Your explanation paired with the graphics is the best on UA-cam (seriously the best) - Could any brand of Camera create a software update for OPEN GATE shooting? Thx again for a GREAT explanation!
That’s so great to hear! Thank you! To be honest, I’m not sure how one goes about creating the necessary processing and software in a camera to enable open gate. I get the feeling that there is a lot to it in the development of the camera but I’m just guessing.
much better solution is when camera manufacturer makes "build in sensor rotation in camera" that allows to rotate the sensor 90 degrees in camera with a button
Great video... but it also sounds like you really love the Lumix S5IIX not just because you are partnered with Panasonic😁... Do I see a defector from Sony in the making?
I've been wondering what this technique I've been using is called. It's honestly been one of the best practices I've been using for filming these last 3 months. So much more repurposeability in my camera
I agree, it is a great option, I tried it on my FujiFilm X-S20 which also offers 6K Open Gate recording, but unfortunately my older laptop almost died when processing the 6K file, so firstly I have to look for some new one which would be able to process such a big recording files 😁
Great video. I didnt know what was open gate at all. Hey maybe a firmware update from Sony for the sony a7 IV that adds open gate will be a very good option, instead of having 7k oversampled footage. It will be better if we get an open gate that you can decide if you want open gate 5K up to 30fps or normal 4k up to 30fps from 7k oversampled.
This is why I think people are sleeping on the Panasonic s1 - it's a fraction of the price second hand - but it's got the same specs as the s5iix except it's a bit heavier, it's not got a fully articulating screen or autofocus. In some cases it's £1500 cheaper to buy an S1. I know it's more specific than that including the new bit rates available on the S5iix but you could buy an external recorder monitor with the money you save getting an s1 and record Blackmagic RAW
many hybrid cameras are oversampling from the full sensor anyways so if you shoot overall wider on the day and reframe/crop in post I don't think you'll need open gate without fear of losing quality especially if you're delivering in 1080
Really looking at moving from sony for an opengate. I find i'm doing much more work on vertical for work, and have a a6600 that I hardly use that I wanted to either change for a full frame or use it as a webcam but I think I can get a cheaper camera for that anyway. I still have my sony full frame but I think with opengate and the stabilisation of the panasonic it might work well for my second camera, worst case I can resell and get another sony instead without having to change much of my work flow.
I do miss open gate going from the Fuji X-S20 to the Sony ZV-E1, but the other advantages do make up for it such as much higher dynamic range, actually usable stabilisation, no corner wobbling, smaller/lighter package, better skin tones, affordable lenses to achieve background/foreground separation, better built-in audio, etc, etc.
Feels like you’re just stating camera features that come with a more premium price tag and camera. Of course better in camera features especially the difference from FF to APSC make a difference in the footage captured. But that’s missing the point since open gate is huge for image capture there probably won’t be a more practical way to capture images in the coming future unless we change the way we view videos. Your talking about camera features that differ in quality with price and company this is about a much better format to capture footage that is just software that can be added to any modern camera. Open gate allows people huge amounts of flexibility in the data they capture especially in a professional environment hopefully Sony adopts the technology as soon as possible there’s honestly no disadvantage.
Spot on. Old fashioned but then I started with a clockwork Newman. The recent launch of the Lumix S9 showed a lot of beautiful shots in 65;24 so I bought the camera with the idea of shooting in open gate. I edit in Final cut and would love to be able to do moves of the 65:24 within the open gate is that possible? So far I have been unable to shoot 65;24 I suspect I have not been in the right record quality. Not easy for us old timers do you have a book to help us move in these exciting times. Thank you Barney
they anamorphic lenses DO NOT squeeze the image - they stretch it across the vertical plane of the sensor - you then squeeze it back in post. your horizontal resolution does not change - but the vertical does - because of that. not trolling - just a very common misconception- might be worth pinning for.
You obviously have never used an anamorphic in your life, or edited anamorphic footage. An anamorphic contains flat vertical cylinder that cause a wider image to project on a narrow sensor, in edit a horizontal stretch is applied to widen the viewing aspect. Go check out Anamorphic on a budget course on how anamorphic works before telling another channel to pin your comment.
Just a few years ago…people were obsessed with wide aspect ratios. Everything was 2:35:1 or wider. Anything even remotely squared was considered “amateur” and not “cinematic”. Now is 2024, everyone wants to shoot in open gate 😂
Thanks for the video! Would you recommend editing a video with the timeline clips as 3:2 and then changing the sequence settings to your desired resolution when you're done OR Setting the sequence settings to your desired resolution when creating the project from the start?
Kind of! I tried my best to mention the open gate part and the resolution part as kind of two separate but intersecting things, but they do get kind of mingled. You can definitely pull a 4k vertical from a 6k 16:9 video if you have the ability to shoot that, but unless you’re explicitly shooting a bit wide on purpose, you’re not quite getting as much vertical framing as you would with 3:2. That’s really the advantage… with the more “boxy” 3:2 ratio, I barely even have to think about framing for both, it kind of just works most of the time. Where, when you film 16:9, you need to be more intentional to pull nice looking vertical compositions.
Great video, do you have a video about how to edit Open Gate into the various formats. I have just got the G9 II and shooting open gate but having a hard time knowing how to edit it on a 4K timeline. Any tips would be great.
I’ve used this a few times on my GH6 and like it. Only two things that make me not shoot it all the time, the first being it only allows me to shoot in 5.9k which can be a pain to edit on my computer being in h.265 (you can do pro res but it’s 1100mbps!) and the other is on my 5 inch atomos monitor it doesn’t fill the whole screen as it’s a 16:9 display so makes it harder to get focus.
Dont forget to PLAN the shot, and frame accordingly.... No Reason to reframe! To have flexibillity just makes You lazy and you try to be creative in post..... No serious filmmaker needs this... Just for quick an dirty, OR UA-cam/Insta.... Good creators shoot it so often they need it for the output they intend .... Just to save time, and money doesnt mean that you create more creating.... Fake camera movement is FDAKE.... Just Plan with a shot list and work.... Those reframed shorts made out of the original is spotted fast, and gives me the impression that the creator made short cuts and doesnt give the short the same seriousness and status... I feel cheated.... if I spot it, I normally dont look at the long version.... But I know that UA-cam is not film, and everything has its purpose.... but it is boring..... EVerybody makes mistakes....Just refilm it
When you film 6k on Panasonic s5ii open gate 3:2 do you lose the 6k if in post if you choose to use 16:9 per se and end up in 4K ? If you go to instagram vertical 4 by 5 do you end up in 1080p ?
I wish open-gate was more of a thing from the very beginning. Begging for it from manufacturers now feels so impossible. The thing is, if they're going to offer things like RAW or LOG... then why not open-gate, clearly those who WANT to edit/color/frame, need that kind of flexibility, hell they can bury it 10 levels deep in a menu for all I care, it wouldn't be there for the casual user.
hope to find an answer here, when placing 5.7k footage (5720x4320 pixels?) on to a 4k 16:9 timeline (3840 x 2160) the footage is a bit smaller the the timeline and i have to zoom in to make it fit. but it should be a lot bigger then the timeline is. anybody know what i am doin wrong? thnx
It might be because the ratio is different than 16:9. Is it filling the entire height but not the width of the frame? In Davinci resolve, there are scaling options that allow you to fit, fill, or crop footage that is a different size from the timeline resolution.
Great video, some important things were left out. The first is Open Gate is only available on SSD recording. Next, 1.9GB/second file size. Those are major considerations because a content creator has to have a computer capable of editing huge file sizes.
Thanks. What is the easiest way to get a 9:16 or 4:5 crop in post when shooting open gate? Not sure if there is an editing program that will auto crop into those formats.
I get it all, but it's still not that big of a deal IMO. It'll be great when it's ubiquitous, but I'm good to wait. I'd honestly rather have Global Shutter before Open Gate.
I've seen a lot of Open Gate explanations, but this is the first time I've seen it explained to me and actually compels me to try it myself. Nice work sir.
I really appreciate that!
LUMIX always has so many amazing features and abilities on their cameras that are so easy to navigate and use. I loved using their GH4 and GH5/5S cameras! Glad to see them doing some great stuff here.
Totally! They’ve been doing some great stuff for a while now. I love seeing it all culminate in their full frame lineup because I’m a full frame snob haha 😂
I hang out in B&H pro video so they show me a lot of fancy cameras. Interestingly, Lumix was the first recommendation. FX6 the second, Alexa the third 😂😂😂😂
Having open gate is such a game changer for multiple aspect ratio outputs these days. Thanks for the video Dunna!
One thing to keep in mind when creating vertical content from a 16:9 ratio, is that you'll get less blur in the background, because you need to increase the distance to the subject. On the other hand, turning the camera 90 degrees lets you get closer even when using open gate, which increases the blur (if this is something you like/need). Other than that, I wish I had open gate on my camera too! Nice video btw.
This is a great point! While it is super handy for cropping vertical videos, there are some trade offs like this!
Absolutely, I do this often and it does change.
Set this for "Save Later" cuz I've gotta get some stuff done today, but I wanted to come to say the thumbnail is fantastic.
Also can't wait for Open Gate on more cameras
Haha thanks boss!
Wow. Holy cow. I had no idea what Open Gate was. I'm all in now! Thank you for a great video.
Thank you for this explanation it really helped me understand much more as I am primarily a musician and sound engineer/ producer of music, over the last couple of years I’ve learnt a lot by teaching myself video production and editing , so I can create music videos to accompany the tracks we have recorded. I’ve learnt a lot of really useful and great techniques but there’s always so much more you can learn and miss when try to teach yourself and more often than not you end up going down your own road and having tunnel vision, it’s the same when recording and producing music by yourself, when the other band members are present I always find it’s much more creative as having other peoples ideas and techniques always gives the tracks addition feel, flavour, character and dynamics that may not of thought of.
The video aspect of which ratio I should ideally film in has caught me out a number of times and when editing and post production I’ve lost parts of the frame I expected or wanted to be there. So cheers this explanation has made me think about this and understand what I should be doing when actually recording video. Big thanks Steve
Thanks for the breakdown. I never really understood why folks were so interested in open gate, but this makes a lot of sense! Thanks for sharing, Dunna!
Glad to hear it’s making sense now! Thanks for watching Luke!
I agree 100% Fujifilm X-H2s has open gate and it helps out so much! I love it!
Oh yes .... Next level then shooting 8k on the GFX 100 II with Pl-mount adapter and so many cool cone glass options out there ... :-)
So true. Just bought the S5II and can't wait to shoot in open gate as I love the ability to go vertical easily and not lose as much resolution. Open gate needs to be a thing on all these hybrid cameras going forward, just like global shutter should be.
You are much better in explaining this than many others.
super easy to understand the open gate concept. I'm a newbie and didn't understand why other people was so exciting about the open gate 6K on S9. Now, I know. Thanks
Glad to hear this was helpful!
Since i received my S5IIX I film every talking head shot in open gate. Such a usefull thing. I just posted my first video on the Lumix yesterday. I am curious on your takes on this beauty. Greetings from Germany.
It’s SOOO useful isn’t it! I’ve been really enjoying it so far! More videos to come!
I am really looking forward to that. And even though I really enjoy the Lumix, I hope this will make Sony put in a bit more effort on certain things like Updates. Thanks for all your great work! You were one of the most important channels for me to start my own UA-cam jouney. @@dunnadidit
I think open gate for filmmaking is the best use of that feature. Taking an open gate shot and cropping to a vertical video, which most people view on their smartphones, seems like overkill since they really wouldn't notice the difference in quality on such a small screen.
It's not just the quality. If you switch to vertical and you have more height, you also get more width to play with. If you film a person you can position the frame in a way that the head is more or less in top of the frame, cut a lot at the bottom for 16:9 and vertically you get the full person right in frame.
I use open gate sometimes when filming in streets and I want to avoid converging lines on interesting buildings. I can keep the camera horizontal and cut a lot away from the bottom of the image. The effect is the same as using a shift lens. I use M43 so I have even more room to shift.
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch Oh yea, I am in full agreement with the reframing choices open gate gives you. It’s the use in vertical videos that I think it becomes overkill.
It really depends... it just gives you a little bit more flexibility in the aspect ratio but it's nothing that can't be achieved with proper framing. I know I definitely wouldn't use it to track motion like someone walking across a scene because you are going to lose parallax and add some weird motion artifacts. Open gate or not you aren't losing any image quality by changing your aspect ratio. It's when you decide to crop in on your aspect ratio that you will lose resolution in both open gate or standard 16:9. Adjusting your aspect ratio would simply be taking a 9:16 clip out of your 16:9 shot or 3:2 open gate shot from top to bottom. The result would be an image that looks a bit more zoomed out from the open gate sensor which can be equalled by proper framing in the 16:9 sensor, and likewise you can crop in on the open gate sensor to match the 9:16 of the 16:9 sensor and again the image quality would be identical and if you cropped in from there on both 10x you would still lose the same image quality on both (presuming same sensor resolution etc). Not to mention you lose the potential for higher frame rates ie slow motion when shooting open gate... unless you're Arri of course... even still 90fps isn't a lot. The "professional" reasoning behind shooting open gate is to match aspect ratios in post and alleviate the need to do multiple takes framed in different aspect ratios. It's a very cinema camera feature designed around saving money on set and in post. All in all the benefits are really not that ground breaking and don't offer any major advantage over a standard sensor. There's a far more dramatic effect between an APS-C image at 35mm focal length and a Full Frame 35mm focal length than shooting from 16:9 to 3:2 open gate!
FINALLY! Someone described Open Gate in detail! I and my Panasonic G9M2 THANK YOUI!
Most of my clients are looking for HD, so I've been shooting 4K Anamorphic with a Non-Anamorphic lens on my Lumix GH5s for that Open Gate effect. It's been working pretty well as long as I don't forget to leave myself some breathing room on my shots for editing.
I agree! The next A7S NEEDS to be open gate!
Agreed ! But for now I have my GH5
All the reframe stuff @ 6K "Open Gate" same as I do with 8K on the R5C when you have enough pixels and the right lens open gate doesnt matter :) you can reframe all day long.
Camera probably wont handle the full sensor at full resolution, so it could do a 6K oversample similar to this if they wanted, but it would just be an alternative to filming in 8K as the camera already super samples from the larger part of the sensor when recording in 4K.
To be fair, editing 6K footage will be faster/easier for most people. 8K editing is demanding.
Adrian-in-focus here. Not sure if you remember our conversation on instagram. But now I know what is an open gate 😂 thanks brother!
Haha glad you made it over!
@@dunnadidit look ma, i talk to famous people lol
Absolutely! Cameras are so good today I don't feel much of a need to upgrade for quality reasons. But this is more a workflow reason that could sway me to upgrade my R5 or BM Pocket cameras down the line.
This this this! So many decisions come down to workflow and quality of life features now with image quality being so solid.
A perfect thumbnail and great tips for open gate shooting.
I use the GH6 for my day job and as much as I hate that camera the IBIS and open gate are it’s saving grace since I’ve got to do so many different cutdowns for different aspect ratios quickly.
If they gave me great open gate on my A7siii I’d never even consider Panasonic. The flexibility is just too helpful.
Thanks so much! Open gate is really so handy isn’t it!
Open gate is especially useful for cropping to 4:3 because then you can use the full height of the sensor compared to cropping the 16:9 video to 4:3 where there is a decent amount data lost at the top and bottom of the sensor.
Yes, I think this could be the next game changer for creators. I've already figured out my own way to get the best out of my resolution but this solution seems so simple and efficient at the same time. Let's see how this development will roll in the future and thanks for this video :)
Open gate is definitely something that I'm looking forward to becoming a norm. The capabilities of open gate recording just gives me so much more flexibility in post that it is the only reason why I'm having such a hard time deciding between a Sony A7 IV and the Lumix S5 II.
Open gate looks great, more so for anamorphic but personally I’m more interested in built in nds becoming more common 😊
Open gate sounds sick! This is what I need for my workflow. I hate having to capture vertical separate from horizontal or going to 1080p for vertical using the same clips. Thanks man
As a Sony user I'd more than just love this feature as it is slowly coming a necessity. I've already lost a client/marketing company to the Panasonic users in the area as Opengate has become a bit of a buzz word that all social media company's now want!
Hope this cam goes on sale this month
With having the R5c and R5 I feel when I shoot in 8K without over sampling although it still restricts you to 16:9 i have a lil wiggle room in post BUTTT way to go Panasonic for allowing that feature for the value it’s industry leading we need more companies like this !
Heck yeah!
That thumbnail 🤌🏼
Haha thanks dude!
wow - this was such a great video, SELLING ALL MY CANON GEAR RIGHT NOW! LETS GO LUMIX!!!!
Haha thanks dude!
Great video, and yes Lumix has created the perfect content creator focused camera with the X.
I've just bought the S5iiX, can't wait to use it on an upcoming trip... quick question, doesn't the opengate only support 4:2:0 colour, not 4:2:2 like the other modes (4K etc)? Do you think this is an issue if shooting V-LOG & producing your own grades?
Yeah 6k open gate is only 4:2:0, I haven’t had any issue with it tho!
it would be very helpful if Panasonic made a simultaneous frame 16x9 and 9x16. That should be the easiest upgrade ever, yet very useful
Besides the topic, I appreciate your video style!
If I understand correctly some of that 'excess' area is used by electronic stabilization to match up frames in handheld mode.
The OG S5 (yes not the S5 II/IIX) has "open gate" video recording at 30P as well, but is hidden in the menu. Change camera mode to "M", change selected burst mode (I use II) to use 6K Photo, change mode to S/S (shutter start/stop). Limited to 15 minutes per recording, but you can select 3:2 (5183x3456) and 4:3 (4992x3744) aspect ratios and even set Photo Style to V-Log. Includes audio! My understanding is that is also 200Mbps bit rate recording. I've used it successfully for far better Anamorphic than the official "Anamorphic 4:3" mode on the OG S5. Hey Panasonic, why not move it to the video menu in a future firmware for the OG S5 as a friendly gesture for the older camera owners? Anyway, any older OG S5 owners, enjoy "open gate!"
Shooting Open Gate is literally a money making feature, as you can sale/generate multiple deliverables with a lot less effort (not shooting everything twice) and in better quality (resolution, and less distortion than when just shooting vertical)
Great way to look at it!
Great explanation about OPEN GATE - until this week I've never heard of it - Your explanation paired with the graphics is the best on UA-cam (seriously the best) - Could any brand of Camera create a software update for OPEN GATE shooting? Thx again for a GREAT explanation!
That’s so great to hear! Thank you!
To be honest, I’m not sure how one goes about creating the necessary processing and software in a camera to enable open gate. I get the feeling that there is a lot to it in the development of the camera but I’m just guessing.
@@dunnadidit hey thx for the response - you got a cool channel !
Action cams had this (4x3 sensor usually - GoPro12 8x7) since like forever.
much better solution is when camera manufacturer makes "build in sensor rotation in camera" that allows to rotate the sensor 90 degrees in camera with a button
But then you have to shoot everything twice?
Great video... but it also sounds like you really love the Lumix S5IIX not just because you are partnered with Panasonic😁... Do I see a defector from Sony in the making?
Thanks so much! I have definitely been loving the S5IIX for sure. Let’s just say that it’s another great tool in my kit!
You helped give me a solution for framing 9 by 16 on the GH5 and maybe a work around for the a7s iii w/o open gate. Thanks !
I've been wondering what this technique I've been using is called. It's honestly been one of the best practices I've been using for filming these last 3 months. So much more repurposeability in my camera
I agree, it is a great option, I tried it on my FujiFilm X-S20 which also offers 6K Open Gate recording, but unfortunately my older laptop almost died when processing the 6K file, so firstly I have to look for some new one which would be able to process such a big recording files 😁
Great video. I didnt know what was open gate at all. Hey maybe a firmware update from Sony for the sony a7 IV that adds open gate will be a very good option, instead of having 7k oversampled footage. It will be better if we get an open gate that you can decide if you want open gate 5K up to 30fps or normal 4k up to 30fps from 7k oversampled.
This is why I think people are sleeping on the Panasonic s1 - it's a fraction of the price second hand - but it's got the same specs as the s5iix except it's a bit heavier, it's not got a fully articulating screen or autofocus. In some cases it's £1500 cheaper to buy an S1.
I know it's more specific than that including the new bit rates available on the S5iix but you could buy an external recorder monitor with the money you save getting an s1 and record Blackmagic RAW
many hybrid cameras are oversampling from the full sensor anyways so if you shoot overall wider on the day and reframe/crop in post I don't think you'll need open gate without fear of losing quality especially if you're delivering in 1080
Nicely explained
I wonder if the same similar results apply to the GH7 in micro 4/5ths?
Great presentation, by the way. This greatly aided my understanding.
Really looking at moving from sony for an opengate. I find i'm doing much more work on vertical for work, and have a a6600 that I hardly use that I wanted to either change for a full frame or use it as a webcam but I think I can get a cheaper camera for that anyway. I still have my sony full frame but I think with opengate and the stabilisation of the panasonic it might work well for my second camera, worst case I can resell and get another sony instead without having to change much of my work flow.
You are definitely not alone!
I do miss open gate going from the Fuji X-S20 to the Sony ZV-E1, but the other advantages do make up for it such as much higher dynamic range, actually usable stabilisation, no corner wobbling, smaller/lighter package, better skin tones, affordable lenses to achieve background/foreground separation, better built-in audio, etc, etc.
Feels like you’re just stating camera features that come with a more premium price tag and camera. Of course better in camera features especially the difference from FF to APSC make a difference in the footage captured.
But that’s missing the point since open gate is huge for image capture there probably won’t be a more practical way to capture images in the coming future unless we change the way we view videos. Your talking about camera features that differ in quality with price and company this is about a much better format to capture footage that is just software that can be added to any modern camera.
Open gate allows people huge amounts of flexibility in the data they capture especially in a professional environment hopefully Sony adopts the technology as soon as possible there’s honestly no disadvantage.
Spot on. Old fashioned but then I started with a clockwork Newman. The recent launch of the Lumix S9 showed a lot of beautiful shots in 65;24 so I bought the camera with the idea of shooting in open gate. I edit in Final cut and would love to be able to do moves of the 65:24 within the open gate is that possible? So far I have been unable to shoot 65;24 I suspect I have not been in the right record quality. Not easy for us old timers do you have a book to help us move in these exciting times. Thank you Barney
I shoot open gate all the time with my Fuji X-H2S. Now the questions is will people leave Sony & Canon so they can have this feature?
A very informative presentation👍👍
yes, and I never understood why so many modern cameras don't have, it.
such a great explanation of "OPEN GATE"
Love your content! It’s always helpful. Do you ever shoot DCI? If so, why or in what situations? Thanks!
they anamorphic lenses DO NOT squeeze the image - they stretch it across the vertical plane of the sensor - you then squeeze it back in post. your horizontal resolution does not change - but the vertical does - because of that. not trolling - just a very common misconception- might be worth pinning for.
I am sorry but this is not correct, the modern anamorphic lens is a vertical cylinder so the only plane of compression is horizontal.
You obviously have never used an anamorphic in your life, or edited anamorphic footage. An anamorphic contains flat vertical cylinder that cause a wider image to project on a narrow sensor, in edit a horizontal stretch is applied to widen the viewing aspect. Go check out Anamorphic on a budget course on how anamorphic works before telling another channel to pin your comment.
Thank you for this video. It was super and clear and informative! I have a question: Does shooting in open gate take up more storage?
Just a few years ago…people were obsessed with wide aspect ratios. Everything was 2:35:1 or wider. Anything even remotely squared was considered “amateur” and not “cinematic”. Now is 2024, everyone wants to shoot in open gate 😂
So you could so the same using the full 4K sensor for HD output.
One of the reasons I got S5IIX.
I feel like this is potentially a feature that could be added in firmware to many cameras. I doubt it will happen but that would be awesome!
Love this, so useful :)
I'm guessing there's no Sony cameras that are opengate?
I’m so glad to hear that! As far as I’m aware there are none.
One of the main reasons why I went to Fuji from Sony!
Thanks for the video! Would you recommend editing a video with the timeline clips as 3:2 and then changing the sequence settings to your desired resolution when you're done OR Setting the sequence settings to your desired resolution when creating the project from the start?
I shoot 6.2k open gate on my fuji X-S20 and X-H2s. It's awesome.
The rest of the image is used for software stabilization so camera doesn't have to crop in whole a lot.
I get the benefits.. but you’re comparing 6k 3:2 to 4K 16:9.
You could do similar things with an 6k 16:9.. or am I missing something?
Kind of! I tried my best to mention the open gate part and the resolution part as kind of two separate but intersecting things, but they do get kind of mingled. You can definitely pull a 4k vertical from a 6k 16:9 video if you have the ability to shoot that, but unless you’re explicitly shooting a bit wide on purpose, you’re not quite getting as much vertical framing as you would with 3:2. That’s really the advantage… with the more “boxy” 3:2 ratio, I barely even have to think about framing for both, it kind of just works most of the time. Where, when you film 16:9, you need to be more intentional to pull nice looking vertical compositions.
Thanks for Info.👊🙏
Open gate is usually not 3/2. It’s usually 1.43:1 at least on the Alexa LF
Oh this is cool do you know how much that camera cost?
Waiting for the 60fps open gate 🎉😊 (For anamorph)
guess i need to buy a lumix camera now... unless sony releases a camera that can film 4/3
YES... DUNNA/Lumix Content... ☕
More coming too!
How can I shoot opengate with my gh5s? I can’t seem to find it
I believe it’s called anamorphic mode on the GH5
If I wanted to get the “open gate” aspect ratio in davinci but I shot it on a normal 4K 16:9 camera, what would I set my project file to?
Great video, do you have a video about how to edit Open Gate into the various formats. I have just got the G9 II and shooting open gate but having a hard time knowing how to edit it on a 4K timeline. Any tips would be great.
That Matt guy was in mckinnons bucketshot, wasn’t he??
I do believe he was!
Why would you need 4K vertical video? Who has such a big phone ?
I’ve used this a few times on my GH6 and like it. Only two things that make me not shoot it all the time, the first being it only allows me to shoot in 5.9k which can be a pain to edit on my computer being in h.265 (you can do pro res but it’s 1100mbps!) and the other is on my 5 inch atomos monitor it doesn’t fill the whole screen as it’s a 16:9 display so makes it harder to get focus.
can you help us understand what is 1.5x or others and squeeze factor?
What memory card are you using with the Panasonic camera?
Thanks for the video, I have a quick question. What type of card do you recommend for shooting like this without breaking the bank?
Dont forget to PLAN the shot, and frame accordingly.... No Reason to reframe! To have flexibillity just makes You lazy and you try to be creative in post..... No serious filmmaker needs this... Just for quick an dirty, OR UA-cam/Insta.... Good creators shoot it so often they need it for the output they intend .... Just to save time, and money doesnt mean that you create more creating.... Fake camera movement is FDAKE.... Just Plan with a shot list and work.... Those reframed shorts made out of the original is spotted fast, and gives me the impression that the creator made short cuts and doesnt give the short the same seriousness and status... I feel cheated.... if I spot it, I normally dont look at the long version.... But I know that UA-cam is not film, and everything has its purpose.... but it is boring..... EVerybody makes mistakes....Just refilm it
Can you still use open gate if you have a apsc lens on a full frame body in crop mode?
good job
When you film 6k on Panasonic s5ii open gate 3:2 do you lose the 6k if in post if you choose to use 16:9 per se and end up in 4K ? If you go to instagram vertical 4 by 5 do you end up in 1080p ?
Does any Sony camera allow this?
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Protect him at all costs
I wish open-gate was more of a thing from the very beginning. Begging for it from manufacturers now feels so impossible. The thing is, if they're going to offer things like RAW or LOG... then why not open-gate, clearly those who WANT to edit/color/frame, need that kind of flexibility, hell they can bury it 10 levels deep in a menu for all I care, it wouldn't be there for the casual user.
hope to find an answer here, when placing 5.7k footage (5720x4320 pixels?) on to a 4k 16:9 timeline (3840 x 2160) the footage is a bit smaller the the timeline and i have to zoom in to make it fit. but it should be a lot bigger then the timeline is. anybody know what i am doin wrong? thnx
It might be because the ratio is different than 16:9. Is it filling the entire height but not the width of the frame? In Davinci resolve, there are scaling options that allow you to fit, fill, or crop footage that is a different size from the timeline resolution.
@@dunnadidit ok, thnx! I am ging to look into that!
Great video, some important things were left out. The first is Open Gate is only available on SSD recording. Next, 1.9GB/second file size. Those are major considerations because a content creator has to have a computer capable of editing huge file sizes.
I disagree, I did ALL of the open gate recording on an SD card in the camera so I can confidently say you do not need to use an SSD.
Thanks. What is the easiest way to get a 9:16 or 4:5 crop in post when shooting open gate? Not sure if there is an editing program that will auto crop into those formats.
How about file sizes?
I get it all, but it's still not that big of a deal IMO. It'll be great when it's ubiquitous, but I'm good to wait. I'd honestly rather have Global Shutter before Open Gate.
Combine this with a cinemascope lens=almost the image definition of 65 mm film.
Is open gate 422 10 bit on the Lumix S5iiX?