If I hadn't already, I'd like to thank you for this awesome video! I love especially the insight granted in being able to select any Izotope plugin installed on any track or buss in the DAW from within Total Balance Control to positively effect change in the overall EQ curve! This is so cunning and strategic to the mixing and mastering workflow. AWESOME!!!
Thanks for the video - I use Tonal Balance all the time...a great tool. What would be a great time-saver for me is if both tonal balance and insight came up at the end of the chain in Ozone when you do the Master Assistant. If you could pass that along for consideration I would appreciate it.
"Living in a dangerous but predictable world" - what a great line! I love the juxtaposition of opposites or near-opposites or at least strongly contrasting terms or concepts. Probably comes from my near-OCDish obsession with balance lol. Thanks for a great tutorial 😊👍🏼
Professional video and teaching. Thank you! I've seen a glut of unprofessional teaching videos, mostly with highly annoying fast movements of a tiny cursor. Virtually all teaching videos from Universal Audio and Groove3 are horribly unprofessional with rapid cursor movements. Just terrible! However, this teaching video was very professional.
I got it a couple of months ago. It’s okay…. You cannot trust it to make a good mix but it can help to easily spot some frequencies you may have missed.
Thanks for this useful video. Just wondering how to spot exact frequencies in the tonal balance curve. In my current mixing session the curve is showing too much low end but I'm unable to find exactly which frequencies need to be reduced.
Ozone just makes things too loud. Often overpowered mixes which affect the whole process. Use with caution if you are relying on it without mixing your individual tracks properly.
You can literally do this with any EQ plug-in that has real time frequency level animation. Player track and see what it looks like. Mute your track and play a reference track and see what that looks like.
Literally you cannot lol. You can go through each track in your daw then adjust it while bouncing back and forth between your reference track. But not all in one window, and not have to go find tracks to use as a reference. its all right there. gotta love people that think they have a point while they dont
Should the tonal balance be maintained throughout the entire song, possibly with automating EQ, or is it just necessary in the most dense section of the song?
Mostly you want to look at the most sense section (e.g. final chorus) but also to find averages for the whole song. It's much less useful for a particular segment, since for creative reasons you might have sections (e.g. a build-up) with literally no bass or kick drum, for example.
If I have a song that has lots of instruments in the chorus and few instruments in the verse, is it ok to be very out of the target during the verse? For example if the first chorus has only vocals and piano, is it ok to be very out of the target in the low end during this first chorus? Or should we always try to be on the target regardless of the part of the song and the instruments played?
Normally in genres like pop or rock when a contract is signed, the artist is deducted a percentage destined to record, mix and master his music, but in electronic music the artist usually does this, that means that the dj producers earn more money ?
Very rarely does the artist compose, produce, mix and master their songs. Successful artists have a few people at the least if not a team of people they trust for various things. However should you do it yourself, you’ll not owe money to engineers and such so technically you do start making money quicker after the advance has been recouped by the label of course.
Apart from a handful of household names, no artists make money from selling music any more. You can save money by doing your own mixing and mastering though.
None of my Izotope plugins are showing anything. Not my EQ's, not my Tonal Balance, nothing. They're just static. I can hear I'm changing things around, but I can't see it. My hardware is all high end, so I doubt it's a resource issue.
Mine stopped working a few months ago, it’s just stuck and is not showing anything apart crest factor. Tried uninstalling, re-installing , updating, nothing worked. Anyone else has this issue?
When you create a target from an audio file (or folder), is better to use the full song or just cut it to only the more intense part (for exemple only the drop from an EDM track) ? Because if I compare my drop to another reference drop, does the Tonal Balance can give a different result if the analized part use as reference have the break/intro/outro of the song ?
I have noticed that sometimes if there are radical changes dynamically and tonally during a song that it can shift the range of the tonal balance target-particularly with the low end. So some cases you might experiment with cutting off a quiet into or outro, but in general it works fine with a whole track
I mean this is a tonal match metering plug-in, you can use it to match the sound of cues to existing cues, but I’d guess tonally, film music varies a lot more than traditional songs.
I find it a little useless compared to other tonal balance control plug ins. Phil Speicer tonal balance control is far superior and helpful. I wonder why they didn’t make it more functional? Would it take away from nectar and neutron ability or make them pointless? But my faith in izotope and NI has dropped hugely in recent years…
@@Jg-be7it Tf are u talking about lmao. You state the obvious. Don't know how to use a compressor? Well u could ruin the mix. Don't know how to cook? Well u could ruin the food. No shit Sherlock. This applies to everything in life, no?
@@kahyui2486 I'm talking about the fact that people believe Tonal Balance will make their mix better without knowing why or how themselves. I'm sorry that was hard for you.
this just seems like a snake oil plugin, no explanation of how it works or what it's analyzing. Just "machine learning" and AI . how is this different than an equalizer?
It’s a targeting referencing tool. It gives quick ZL information as to your levels in terms of peak rms or lufs. It also shows the relationship between sustain low end material and transient low end material with an ideal genre based target range Keep your RMS and momentary LUFS within a few dB and keep the low end transient and sustain balanced with each other and then with the rest of the mix Run your own reference tracks through it and set new targets for yourself It isn’t snake oil it’s a must use for every mix and master type of plugin Izotope digital marketing team, give me a job😂
you are skilled in communicating n teaching complicated things in very simple and effective way .. never see that alot
If I hadn't already, I'd like to thank you for this awesome video! I love especially the insight granted in being able to select any Izotope plugin installed on any track or buss in the DAW from within Total Balance Control to positively effect change in the overall EQ curve! This is so cunning and strategic to the mixing and mastering workflow. AWESOME!!!
Thanks for the video - I use Tonal Balance all the time...a great tool. What would be a great time-saver for me is if both tonal balance and insight came up at the end of the chain in Ozone when you do the Master Assistant. If you could pass that along for consideration I would appreciate it.
Great suggestion, thanks! We've passed this along. :)
Hey ! Thx a lot 😁
The song is absolutely amazing by the way, didn't expect it from a random tutorial !
Processed made the song be ready for release woah
"Living in a dangerous but predictable world" - what a great line! I love the juxtaposition of opposites or near-opposites or at least strongly contrasting terms or concepts. Probably comes from my near-OCDish obsession with balance lol. Thanks for a great tutorial 😊👍🏼
love this song ! thanks for vid
I almost forgot I have this plugin. Now I have a reason to use it.
what a badass song! plus its mixed so gooood 2. pretty cool.
Professional video and teaching. Thank you! I've seen a glut of unprofessional teaching videos, mostly with highly annoying fast movements of a tiny cursor. Virtually all teaching videos from Universal Audio and Groove3 are horribly unprofessional with rapid cursor movements. Just terrible! However, this teaching video was very professional.
I got it a couple of months ago. It’s okay…. You cannot trust it to make a good mix but it can help to easily spot some frequencies you may have missed.
What do you guys do for adjusting overall frequencies? EQ vs Multi band comp 🤔
Wow, Amazing Tool. Thank you for a very informative video. I would like to learn it comprehensively and definitely give it a Try 🙏
When addressing a level, how do you know when to lower the volume vs eqing a range?
You just gotta use your discretion
Track sure sounds good
Thanks for this useful video. Just wondering how to spot exact frequencies in the tonal balance curve. In my current mixing session the curve is showing too much low end but I'm unable to find exactly which frequencies need to be reduced.
...great video ...loving the song very much!!!!
I did not know about that solo feature. Very helpful
What song is this?! It’s amazing! Please tell me 🙏🏽
This was awewsome
nice one thanks
Very helpful thank you
IPC source plug-in with EQ controls not visible :/
It's good to have 👍🏾
really helpful video!! thank you :)
Thank you, great video!
Tonal Balance Control for AUv3 on iPadOS iZotope PLEASE! 👍🏼
Thanks, nice vid! I understand you put it last, but if im using ozone, would ozone not take care of the balance?
Ozone just makes things too loud. Often overpowered mixes which affect the whole process. Use with caution if you are relying on it without mixing your individual tracks properly.
Should I mix without it Then mix with it after I pre mix. Or should I mix with it when I first start mixing
Whatever you want. I feel like using it at the end of a chain makes more sense but there are no rules.
where do u guys us it on ur chain after mixed for the premaster or do I can use after the master for last step ?
Wicked cool!
How exactly does it work with adding 'source'? I put Tonal Balance to my master and then put Ozone Equalizer to any instrument/track?
Why does my tonal balance look different? I can only have it show the fine view.
Nice one.
Thank you.
You can literally do this with any EQ plug-in that has real time frequency level animation. Player track and see what it looks like. Mute your track and play a reference track and see what that looks like.
Izotope has inter plugin communication which makes the workflow easier and efficient to work with.
Literally you cannot lol. You can go through each track in your daw then adjust it while bouncing back and forth between your reference track. But not all in one window, and not have to go find tracks to use as a reference. its all right there. gotta love people that think they have a point while they dont
what is the song it's so pretty omg
Just so I am on the same page. You're saying to use Tonal Balance after OZONE on the Master Buss? Thx ElectricEddie
Should the tonal balance be maintained throughout the entire song, possibly with automating EQ, or is it just necessary in the most dense section of the song?
Mostly you want to look at the most sense section (e.g. final chorus) but also to find averages for the whole song. It's much less useful for a particular segment, since for creative reasons you might have sections (e.g. a build-up) with literally no bass or kick drum, for example.
hi guys, what target curve would you recommend for hip hop instrumentals and lofi music without uploading your own references
If I have a song that has lots of instruments in the chorus and few instruments in the verse, is it ok to be very out of the target during the verse? For example if the first chorus has only vocals and piano, is it ok to be very out of the target in the low end during this first chorus? Or should we always try to be on the target regardless of the part of the song and the instruments played?
You've just to see if the frequencies related to the instruments playing staying in the box or it isn't.
Normally in genres like pop or rock when a contract is signed, the artist is deducted a percentage destined to record, mix and master his music, but in electronic music the artist usually does this, that means that the dj producers earn more money ?
Very rarely does the artist compose, produce, mix and master their songs. Successful artists have a few people at the least if not a team of people they trust for various things. However should you do it yourself, you’ll not owe money to engineers and such so technically you do start making money quicker after the advance has been recouped by the label of course.
Apart from a handful of household names, no artists make money from selling music any more. You can save money by doing your own mixing and mastering though.
Is this different from using Metric AB by plugin Alliance?
That's perceived loudness (dynamics) this is eq balance so yeah it's different
None of my Izotope plugins are showing anything. Not my EQ's, not my Tonal Balance, nothing. They're just static. I can hear I'm changing things around, but I can't see it.
My hardware is all high end, so I doubt it's a resource issue.
Idk what you did, but you did it lol
Mine stopped working a few months ago, it’s just stuck and is not showing anything apart crest factor. Tried uninstalling, re-installing , updating, nothing worked. Anyone else has this issue?
When you create a target from an audio file (or folder), is better to use the full song or just cut it to only the more intense part (for exemple only the drop from an EDM track) ?
Because if I compare my drop to another reference drop, does the Tonal Balance can give a different result if the analized part use as reference have the break/intro/outro of the song ?
I have noticed that sometimes if there are radical changes dynamically and tonally during a song that it can shift the range of the tonal balance target-particularly with the low end. So some cases you might experiment with cutting off a quiet into or outro, but in general it works fine with a whole track
Any use for film work?
I mean this is a tonal match metering plug-in, you can use it to match the sound of cues to existing cues, but I’d guess tonally, film music varies a lot more than traditional songs.
If youre not using the Izotope plug ins you're missing out
I find it a little useless compared to other tonal balance control plug ins. Phil Speicer tonal balance control is far superior and helpful. I wonder why they didn’t make it more functional? Would it take away from nectar and neutron ability or make them pointless? But my faith in izotope and NI has dropped hugely in recent years…
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👍🏻🥳🔥😀
You can’t even hear your kick my boy definitely need to side chain that
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this sounds like andy shauff
This will ruin your mix if you don't already know what you're doing.
Anything can ruin your mix if you don’t know what your doing.
@@SiQuemaCuhh Then what was the point of this vid?
@@Jg-be7it Tf are u talking about lmao. You state the obvious.
Don't know how to use a compressor? Well u could ruin the mix.
Don't know how to cook?
Well u could ruin the food.
No shit Sherlock. This applies to everything in life, no?
@@kahyui2486 I'm talking about the fact that people believe Tonal Balance will make their mix better without knowing why or how themselves. I'm sorry that was hard for you.
@@Jg-be7it doesn't even make sense. Tonal balance doesn't change sound. It's litteraly for analysing. Ur comment makes no sense but go off
this just seems like a snake oil plugin, no explanation of how it works or what it's analyzing. Just "machine learning" and AI . how is this different than an equalizer?
It’s a targeting referencing tool. It gives quick ZL information as to your levels in terms of peak rms or lufs.
It also shows the relationship between sustain low end material and transient low end material with an ideal genre based target range
Keep your RMS and momentary LUFS within a few dB and keep the low end transient and sustain balanced with each other and then with the rest of the mix
Run your own reference tracks through it and set new targets for yourself
It isn’t snake oil it’s a must use for every mix and master type of plugin
Izotope digital marketing team, give me a job😂