Thanks as always yall for the support. I'm so happy to be here on UA-cam, I don't say it enough! Here are the songs I sang in this video. Some of my favs :) (01:56) Little Hell - City and Colour (09:36) Hope for Now - City and Colour (15:51) She Who Mars the Skin of Gods - Protest the Hero (16:26) Bury the Hatchet - Protest the Hero
Hi Elle! I am also a detransitioner. I reached out to you on Twitter, but I completely understand if you don’t feel comfortable talking. Just wanted to talk to someone who had a similar experience! My username on Twitter is zzzzombie77. Thanks so much! :)
That's actually really interesting to think about, and I agree! When people harmonize with themselves it creates such a cool sound because the blend is just naturally perfect, so I think it would be super cool to hear her harmonize with her old recordings because it's still her voice, but deeper. I wonder if she would still blend really well with herself despite her voice having changed register.
Elle, maybe there was never a person you were supposed to be. Maybe you are great just the way you are. By that I don’t mean who you are and the body you’re in is a fine second best. This is you. You is best. I get you have regrets, that’s life and it sucks you picked them up so early. You didn’t ruin yourself, though. Your bright, powerful soul has been the same and will continue to be the same, no matter how you identify or how your body changes.
Rock ON Joshua! Couldn't have said it better. There's nothing "wrong" with being 'just Elle"...like at all! NONE of us have ourselves completely figured out...whether it's sexuality, gender, whatever...it's a continuous learning process....everyone struggles with different aspects of themselves and frankly, if they don't THAT's when something is really wrong.
It’s not ruined! Get those vocal lessons and learn how to control your new voice! Janice Joplin certainly wasn’t a dainty flower sounding singer. You can do it! ♥️
Random comment here, but if you happen to like Janis...you really REALLY will like Beth Hart...a lot of ppl have no clue who she is...search her above and watch her. She's very similar to Janis in a lot of ways. Rough, not the shrinking violet in ANY way and she channels her talent from like some other artistic dimension. She's like if Janis and 70's Robert Plant had a baby and Alanis Morrisette was part egg-donor lol. I'll argue that Beth is better than Janis in some ways.
Hi Elle. I'm a retired professional opera singer and have taught voice for at least 40 years. You have a really nice voice. Sing with the voice that's there in this moment. Artistry is not mimicry. The "Jeff Rolka" YT channel has great warm ups. And if you can take voice lessons and join a choir, all the better. All the best to you!
Raise your hand if you struggled to find the words for the effect this video had on you. First of all the way Elle is so loving to the 15-year-old whose voice she is appreciating, and her ability to describe the time and the decisions and the differences between her then and her now with clarity and without remorse. The apparent comfort she has shown with sharing all of the history and felt experience and willingness to walk the earth like the amazing human being she is, whoever that may be. Thanks, Elle. I learned just from watching your face as you listened.
OMG i started to cry when i heard you sing with your vioce now. Your old voice is also very clear and good. But you have SUCH AN AMAZING CAPTIVATING VOICE NOW. WOW!!!
Hi Elle! I’ve been watching your videos for a bit, and I just want to say that you are one of my favorite UA-camrs. I like how mindful and open you are with your videos. Thanks for doing what you do!
Seriously tho, holy shit, your voice was and is amazing. Yes, it is deeper now, but the beauty and clarity still shine through. You have better pitch control now, too. Maybe work on your falsetto, as I would like to hear it? 🤗 Also, I have never taken testosterone and my voice is hella low (I have practically a tenor range, plus I've worked on my lower notes because I sing mostly songs by tenors), so don't worry about it... the point is, you sound _good._ And it's not easy to say that about someone singing a capella in their car. 😅 Any time you feel like posting random singing videos, feel free 😜
In some ways this was a hard video for me to watch, because I was faced with the truth that my voice too has changed irreversibly through taking testosterone. In some ways though I'm thankful for it because you made me feel like that's okay :) You're a good singer, whatever your range is, so I'd love to hear you sing more ^^ One thing I remind myself when I worry about my voice is that many women's voices get deeper die to menopause, pregnancy or even smoking. Maybe it's not to quite the same extent as testosterone can do but that doesn't make you any less a woman and lots of people might not notice - you can get vocal training to speak in a higher register, which might help in speaking settings :) For me I was 18 when I started taking it. I developed a full baritone range but it seems to have reverted more than yours in that my range is much smaller since stopping taking hormones. Often I find myself reverting to that "soprano muscle memory" but no sound actually comes out. My singing range is about the low end of contralto/high end of tenor now. I'm working on my falsetto to see if I can expand it :')
You have a beautiful singing voice and as a choir director I must say you should definitely join a choir or pursue voice lessons if this is something that would bring you joy. Music is life. Also, I understand what it feels like to mourn the voice that was lost to testosterone - in my case, going through male puberty as a trans woman. I never record my own voice unless I’m singing in choir, so I appreciate you being able to go past that and opening up your inner thoughts to the world. I don’t know what to say to help you feel better about it other than that your current voice is beautiful. Be well and keep singing!
As a fellow vocal music teacher, I agree! You should definitely continue singing. Your vocal production is very simple, pure, and unaffected. With a good teacher, your range will expand and it's hard to say if/how the tone will change. Regardless, the emotive quality you have is still there and is very powerful. Go for it!
You are using your voice to tell your story, that's the beautiful part. Your voice sounds good in the feminine and "masculine" version.I see a woman when I see you. Take care, and thanks for being so nice to your followers :)
No woman has the same voice they had at 15 in their twenties. I, too, miss the clarity in my young teen girl voice. Now my voice is fuller and can go deeper, and I've only been through female puberty.
Not a single thing in you or about you is ruined, Elle. We all regret some decisions and rejoice in others. We all mourn certain losses and embrace certain gains through life. Your spirit shines... all the way down to Mexico City, where I'm enjoying your singing right now. Give yourself as much time you need to process everything from recent years. Don't rush it. You will find out that we can feel pain and spread our wings at the same time.
Your singing is amazing, I could seriously listen both of your voices no stop. You should go for those singing lessons, they'll do nothing but good to something that already is amazing. You're wonderful.
I’ve taken singing lessons since I was 10 (I’m 20 now) & am studying to be a speech pathologist. I am here you tell you you can change your voice (reduce vocal fry, even get used to being in a higher range, etc.) it just takes practice & work! But nothing is impossible! You’re voice is amaZing now & could be even better if you took some sort of lessons, I promise💕 you have lots of potential, don’t think that because your voice changed it has lost all hope!
The grass is always greener on the other side and we always want what we don't have. Both of these definitely apply. You will have to find contentment with what and who you are! As for singing, acapella is very hard because it is difficult to stay on key. Your road is not easy because you seem headstrong and easily discontent. I am happy you've figured some things out for yourself and hope things will get easier for you as you continue into adulthood. If I had one piece of advice it would be to question your personal beliefs and don't assume they are set in stone. People may see things differently than you and maybe sometimes they are right.
I feel like we have so much in common! Dallas is my favorite artist and I was singing along with you the whole time 😊 Your voice is a lot like mine and it feels really comforting to hear you talk about how beautiful you think yours is because I often feel so awful about my own. You’re so beautiful and your voice is lovely!
oh my god I've seen ur videos!!!! one day I was sad so I searched "women with deep voices" and yours came up and I watched it and you made me feel better about my voice too :)) solidarity. also you love dallas too holy crap!!!! let's be friends.
Your voice is still very very beautiful ...I am in tears I can see the pain in your eyes for the want of your old voice and I can imagine how hard it must be it's hard to live with knowledge that we wish we cud have known in the past but we only learn from the experience then have the realization of the experience
I’m 31 and used to want to be a singer too. I regret smoking...I no longer smoke, but when I was your age, I had an amazing voice and I absolutely could have become a singer had I quit sooner or never started. It wasn’t even that smoking messed up my voice that much (my breathing more, if anything) but mentally, those choices fucked me up. It to9 away a lot of my passion because I was so ashamed in my choices and my decisions. Like I said, I am 31 now..and most people regret a lot of things, even way before you get to my age. The most important thing to learn NOW (don’t wait until my age to learn it) is to now let regrets get in the way of pursuing anything, learning, growing as a person, etc. Mentally and emotionally, once we can get past regrets and start learning to living not for the past or future, but truly being PRESENT and in the NOW, that’s when you will become the most happy. These three things helped me grow the most during my 20s- acceptance, open-mindedness, and willingness. Learning to become accepting of yourself, accepting of the truth, accepting of problems to overcome, accepting of circumstances that are necessary to work through, accepting of others for who they are. Learning to become open-minded..not trying to be the “director” of mine and everybody else’s life around me, being able to open myself up to many different perceptions and not being a “sheep” or what anybody else expected of me or even what ai expect of myself..opening my mind to new intentions and learning to believe and live in those new intentions. Learning to be willing..willing to do the hard things it took in order to change and grow..willing to be more confident..willing to see myself not through everybody else’s negativity and being willing to speak up for myself..willing to challenge myself in small ways to make new healthy lifelong habits, etc....being accepting of loving myself, open-minded to be able to love myself better, and willing to love myself even when I felt like nobody else did...that is a big one! I hope my words of wisdom can resonate with you in some way and offer you encouragement and hope! We don’t always know who we are becoming, but we do know that we want to be happy, healthy, and love ourselves and love life. Don’t over analyze the things about yourself that you struggle with liking and accepting..learn to accept and love the things that you are growing in! You will also continue to find NEW passions and new reasons for purpose...I found purpose in some of the most unexpected ways..ways that stemmed from illness/disease and spreading awareness. I am able to help so many that are suffering with (or aren’t even aware yet that they have) a disease (that you can’t seek medical treatment for or really go to any doctors) that I have. My experiences with it have been...well..awful..but at the same time I grew a passion for wanting to spread awareness and try to help others not have to suffer as much as ai did my first few years. You will continue to find new purpose in your life over the next decade, and when you keep acceptance, an open-mind, and remain willing, you will see that you spend a lot more time living your life rather than thinking your life away.
I love your voice tbh. And honestly your voice seems very natural to me now and i don't feel like you are any less of a girl just because it's deeper. Also i would love to see you do videos on topics beyond detransitionig as well, because i love your personality and you always have something smart to say and add to the conversation.
I think you’re doing awesome! And you have a beautiful smile! You’re voice will get where you want it to be. Most singers train their voices. They have to. You are doing great and you’re very brave! Be blessed!
You’re such a beautiful person inside and out Elle. I love watching your videos, they’re so soothing, just like your voice. Wish I could have a friend like you❤️
I feel the same! I used to hate my voice when I was a teen and now here I am longing for it (I was a choir kid basically my entire school life) I was always in the highest level choir, I had an amazing range. Testosterone wrecked my voice but the thing with singing is it’s a skill that can always Improve with practice! I always put female vocalists on when I’m driving and just roll with my voice breaks and gradually I’ve the months my range is climbing off. I love my lower range tho! Instead of sounding weak and airy I can hit low notes effortlessly and I don’t take that for granted (always take the good with the bad) once I really master increasing my range I will be such a versatile singer and I’ll love it but regardless, always song from the heart ❤️
its so cool that you can reflect on how awesome you were even when you felt opposite its taken me years to look back and be like WHY DID I BURY THIS PART OF ME AWAY! and you will look back at yourself now and do the same!
Your honesty has been refreshing and it's not just about the subject at hand, either. There aren't too many people who are able to analyze themselves, truthfully. (I still lie to myself daily... 😆) I'm glad you found or refound? yourself. To me ... its almost like finding a friend you lost touch with long ago... you get to hang out again, to catch up and be one with your old familiar friend, who meant so much to you before...
if you ever come to a point where you feel like you want your voice back there are other options like voice feminization surgery, which is the route many trans women take if they feel their voice is too deep and doesn’t match their gender identity. i think you have a beautiful singing voice regardless and the most radiating personality but just wanted to put that information out there in case. wish you the best ❤️
Thank you for sharing. :) Your voice may be different but your still a great singer. I loved the first song you sang and I had to look it up. City and Colour - Little Hell
I was such a huge fan of city and colour back around the same time you sang these recordings. Im 19 now and we have about a year age difference between eachother. Brought back memories of me and my friend jamming out and singing along. Haven't listened to them in ages. You both had and still have such a beautiful voice Elle ❤
I wish I could sing. You should pursue this more! It's the confidence that has changed more than anything. Just look at the most powerful female singers in history, they had those rich warm tones too.
OMG Elle you can sing wow!!! Even though your voice is in a lower register you still sound amazing!!! I sing also so one singer to another girl you got a power voice!! Keep singing!! 💖
Hope For Now.....man. I never heard of City and Colour. Thank you Elle for sharing all that is you. Your singing brought me to tears. Tears because of heart warm not heartache. It moved my guts for multiple reasons. One of them is because I know how you have struggled to accept your voice post hormones. That being said when you sang I cried because the very thing that has been hard to deal with is one of the most beautiful things I could have felt. I'm picking up what you are laying down. And it is magical.
I think your voice is gorgeous, both then and now. But honestly, I feel so much more soul and emotion in your voice. Keep singing! And for what it’s worth, my voice is much deeper now (I’m 32) than when I was 15. It’s fun being able to hit the low notes!
Hi Elle. Your voice is beautiful now, and you use it very well. I feel fortunate that you share these deep reflections and intimate moments with us, because you're very wise, especially for your age. I also find myself reflecting on what might have been, and it increases as more of my choices move into my past. I'm not sure if I know how to deal with it either, but I'm hoping it becomes clearer as I figure out who I am. Take care and thank you for the videos.
I honestly think that both your voice now and your voice then are good! I'd keep working on it and maybe get a voice coach if that is something you are interested in doing! Both singing is beautiful!
Moral of the story, we are NEVER happy until we are happy with who we are. I hope you get over the regrets, I can’t imagine how hard this would be to deal with. I think your message is incredibly important and I’m so glad your are brave enough to share it! I promise you you are saving someone else these same regrets. Your voice is beautiful then and now by the way. I kinda of prefer the deep beautiful voice you have now. It’s so unique and is now apart of your story which only adds more depth.
Reach through all the mess you might still feel and hold on to the beauty you can pull out from all of this. Your voice is beautiful and I think your voice now, has more feeling to it. You’ve come out a wiser person, you’re very within yourself now and you can hear it in your voice now.
I think your singing sounds better now, but not because of the tone, but because you sound more confident than you were when you were 15 and that comes with maturity and experience. But yes, you had a beautiful voice.
Wait! WAIT A MINUTE! YOU'RE SINGING CITY AND COLOUR! I'm in love with you, you have the best taste in music ever! Also: Dont worry because with a bit of training you can easily get back to that! I'm a singer myself and I mean "Little Hell" is hella deep for a girl so I also used to struggle with it but practise makes perfect! And since your voice changed so much you can now hit the low notes and easily practise for higher notes! You got this❤
This whole time I've just had you followed on twitter and wondered why I don't see your vids here then I realized I wasn't subscribed 😣 well now I am. I love your septum by the way and your singing, I don't think it's ruined at all 😊 Edit: the ending 😂😂
Elle sweetheart I’m so glad you shared that with us. You did and do have a beautiful singing voice!! I think you’ve been so brave to deal with all you have! Never give up!💜
Thank you for singing!!! Please keep singing. Embrace the wonderful you you are now. Even though it might feel as if you’ve lost something, it’s only because you recall the past. You are both the young girl and the woman that you are. Your voice is rich womanly and gorgeous. Frankly I prefer a rich female voice. FYI None of us are ever who we used to be when we were younger. I’ve tried to never regret my choices. Use what you have to be the best unique you. 😘
your journey has been very interesting to follow. every time you mention that you haven’t had the normal “growing up” experience, i just want to say that most people haven’t! yours just had a couple permanent external effects, but it ultimately makes you, you. you’re a beautiful human with beautiful and unique experiences.
You rule, Elle. You don’t need any of these UA-cam comments to be validated, self esteem shouldn’t come from the Internet!, but there’s a lot of love for you. ❤️
This video made me cry in the middle of the night you are the cutest girl in the entire world and this girl adores your voice from the first video I saw 🥰 you may have made it deeper through testosterone, but deep female voices are a beautiful thing and I'm totally here for it! I'm so proud of you for sharing your story 💕 thank you
Elle! Your voice is so not ruined! It's awesome!!! O!M!G! Develop that voice woman! You know, female voices change too. You don't know what your voice would have come to be. You're right, you had a lovely clear voice, but you STILL have a lovely voice. Take voice lessons again and wow! You are amazingggg!
Your voice is just as amazing now as it was before!! if you want to work on technique you can always find a voice teacher, or a SLP, but as a voice therapist I have to tell you, the quality of your voice is good! and voice is really a performative thing, there aren't rules as to whether you should sound higher because you're a woman...there are lots of women with deep voices and that is beautiful too :) And I also think that there are no mistakes in the universe, maybe there was never going to be that "other path", and your decisions have led you to be who you are now, an amazing mature woman (with a very cool voice) who is helping others so much and learning so much from everything that has happened to you. I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings, because you are entitled to them, just offering my thoughts about it :) I send you a big hug
I love your voice, both then and now! As someone else who loves to sing and has transitioned, I'd definitely cosign joining a singing group and/or getting vocal lessons
Different from when you were younger, but a very lovely voice to listen to! You have such a great ear and natural expression. So nice! The quality of your voice reminds me a little bit of Melody Gardot. Nina Simone has a very distinct deeper resonance- Fleetwood Mac, Etta James, Lana Del Rey, Peggy Lee, Pink....there are lots of different and awesome types of women voices out there, and yours is one of them! Keep singing!!
This is the thing... we never appreciate what we have when we have it. At the time we hate it. Then we look back and think wow, I was amazing! Why didn't I realise it? If only if realised it then. That never changes! Your 30 yr old self will look back to now and think that. Then your 40yr old self will look back to your 30 yr old self and think that... And so on and so on... Trust me. That never changes! You'll never appreciate what you have as much as when you don't have it anymore. That's being human. That's normal
Thanks as always yall for the support. I'm so happy to be here on UA-cam, I don't say it enough!
Here are the songs I sang in this video. Some of my favs :)
(01:56) Little Hell - City and Colour
(09:36) Hope for Now - City and Colour
(15:51) She Who Mars the Skin of Gods - Protest the Hero
(16:26) Bury the Hatchet - Protest the Hero
I think your voice sounds really hot now. Do you have a boyfriend? If your interested you can connect with me on Instagram at henry_salem.
You must listen to Nina Simone
@@MukbangMukbangMukbang111 Pick a number, Me first,,, Elle, Sing like the wind. Thanx MJ Mutz
What happens when you try to sing the higher tenor/Alto notes?
Hi Elle! I am also a detransitioner. I reached out to you on Twitter, but I completely understand if you don’t feel comfortable talking. Just wanted to talk to someone who had a similar experience! My username on Twitter is zzzzombie77. Thanks so much! :)
Honestly your voice back then and your voice now could do a duet with each other and it would be beautiful
THP Island I just made the same comment before I saw yours! Totally agree
That’d be dope
That's actually really interesting to think about, and I agree! When people harmonize with themselves it creates such a cool sound because the blend is just naturally perfect, so I think it would be super cool to hear her harmonize with her old recordings because it's still her voice, but deeper. I wonder if she would still blend really well with herself despite her voice having changed register.
Omg, she needs to cut 2 tracks together!!
Doooo itttt!! 🖤
Elle, maybe there was never a person you were supposed to be. Maybe you are great just the way you are. By that I don’t mean who you are and the body you’re in is a fine second best. This is you. You is best.
I get you have regrets, that’s life and it sucks you picked them up so early. You didn’t ruin yourself, though. Your bright, powerful soul has been the same and will continue to be the same, no matter how you identify or how your body changes.
Rock ON Joshua! Couldn't have said it better. There's nothing "wrong" with being 'just Elle"...like at all! NONE of us have ourselves completely figured out...whether it's sexuality, gender, whatever...it's a continuous learning process....everyone struggles with different aspects of themselves and frankly, if they don't THAT's when something is really wrong.
Damn good advice!!
It’s not ruined! Get those vocal lessons and learn how to control your new voice! Janice Joplin certainly wasn’t a dainty flower sounding singer. You can do it! ♥️
Random comment here, but if you happen to like Janis...you really REALLY will like Beth Hart...a lot of ppl have no clue who she is...search her above and watch her. She's very similar to Janis in a lot of ways. Rough, not the shrinking violet in ANY way and she channels her talent from like some other artistic dimension. She's like if Janis and 70's Robert Plant had a baby and Alanis Morrisette was part egg-donor lol. I'll argue that Beth is better than Janis in some ways.
Absolutely!
Hi Elle. I'm a retired professional opera singer and have taught voice for at least 40 years. You have a really nice voice. Sing with the voice that's there in this moment. Artistry is not mimicry. The "Jeff Rolka" YT channel has great warm ups. And if you can take voice lessons and join a choir, all the better. All the best to you!
off topic but i love your personality sm
My two year old pointed at your video thumbnail and said "cute girl!" 😂☺
Your two year old has excellent eyes
ThinWhiteAxe AWW That was so sweet of you to say ❤️
@@Brooke-qm6zp it's just a factual observation that Elle is a cute girl
xd that is so cute
The deeper voice sounds so romantic and relaxing to me!
You definitely haven’t “ruined” your singing voice. I love the before and the after equally! I adore your voice, actually 🥰❤️
Raise your hand if you struggled to find the words for the effect this video had on you. First of all the way Elle is so loving to the 15-year-old whose voice she is appreciating, and her ability to describe the time and the decisions and the differences between her then and her now with clarity and without remorse. The apparent comfort she has shown with sharing all of the history and felt experience and willingness to walk the earth like the amazing human being she is, whoever that may be.
Thanks, Elle. I learned just from watching your face as you listened.
okay - I was able to hold the tears in until reading this comment
OMG i started to cry when i heard you sing with your vioce now. Your old voice is also very clear and good. But you have SUCH AN AMAZING CAPTIVATING VOICE NOW. WOW!!!
keep your day job. there are enough really good singers. you're not one
@@kennordquist1224 You ok there?
Oh my gosh, your voice now is so beautiful it makes me cry. Honestly, your voice when you were young was lovely, but it is much richer now.
I don’t know what’s more sensational; your voice, or the smile on your face listening own singing and calling it powerful and beautiful
Your voice is NOT wrong for you - it's amazing! You should really do something with it!!!
Hi Elle! I’ve been watching your videos for a bit, and I just want to say that you are one of my favorite UA-camrs. I like how mindful and open you are with your videos. Thanks for doing what you do!
you’re very inspiring and I admire your optimism
Your voice now is wonderful. If it helps, I try to remind myself of female singers like Tracy Chapman with deep voices who thrive in that range. 💕
Seriously tho, holy shit, your voice was and is amazing. Yes, it is deeper now, but the beauty and clarity still shine through. You have better pitch control now, too. Maybe work on your falsetto, as I would like to hear it? 🤗
Also, I have never taken testosterone and my voice is hella low (I have practically a tenor range, plus I've worked on my lower notes because I sing mostly songs by tenors), so don't worry about it... the point is, you sound _good._ And it's not easy to say that about someone singing a capella in their car. 😅
Any time you feel like posting random singing videos, feel free 😜
In some ways this was a hard video for me to watch, because I was faced with the truth that my voice too has changed irreversibly through taking testosterone. In some ways though I'm thankful for it because you made me feel like that's okay :)
You're a good singer, whatever your range is, so I'd love to hear you sing more ^^
One thing I remind myself when I worry about my voice is that many women's voices get deeper die to menopause, pregnancy or even smoking. Maybe it's not to quite the same extent as testosterone can do but that doesn't make you any less a woman and lots of people might not notice - you can get vocal training to speak in a higher register, which might help in speaking settings :)
For me I was 18 when I started taking it. I developed a full baritone range but it seems to have reverted more than yours in that my range is much smaller since stopping taking hormones. Often I find myself reverting to that "soprano muscle memory" but no sound actually comes out. My singing range is about the low end of contralto/high end of tenor now. I'm working on my falsetto to see if I can expand it :')
You have a beautiful singing voice and as a choir director I must say you should definitely join a choir or pursue voice lessons if this is something that would bring you joy. Music is life. Also, I understand what it feels like to mourn the voice that was lost to testosterone - in my case, going through male puberty as a trans woman. I never record my own voice unless I’m singing in choir, so I appreciate you being able to go past that and opening up your inner thoughts to the world. I don’t know what to say to help you feel better about it other than that your current voice is beautiful. Be well and keep singing!
As a fellow vocal music teacher, I agree! You should definitely continue singing. Your vocal production is very simple, pure, and unaffected. With a good teacher, your range will expand and it's hard to say if/how the tone will change. Regardless, the emotive quality you have is still there and is very powerful. Go for it!
First! This is a really cool idea and I'm glad you still love singing! :)
There's plenty of women that have beautiful voices even deep voices. Utada Hikaru is one of my favorites and she has a REALLY deep voice for a woman.
My dad and I used to sing First Love together all the time. The song always makes me cry. Even now, just talking about it lol
Alison Moyet, gorgeous voice and very deep
Cher as well!
@@alyssavazquez1203 Utada's range is amazing, her music helped me be comfortable with my lower voice! Also Noah Cyrus has a lower range
Yes really deep! her voice is so deep I thought it was a man when I first heard it.
You are using your voice to tell your story, that's the beautiful part. Your voice sounds good in the feminine and "masculine" version.I see a woman when I see you. Take care, and thanks for being so nice to your followers :)
No woman has the same voice they had at 15 in their twenties.
I, too, miss the clarity in my young teen girl voice.
Now my voice is fuller and can go deeper, and I've only been through female puberty.
I still sound like 12 years old lol
Good point. I'm an exception tho. My voice has barely lowered. I have no idea why.
I still sound like a kid and I’m 26 lol, especially on the phone I get asked if I’m over 18 🙄😑
Tracy Chapman also has a low voice, I freaking love it.
Dang you have a great singing voice!!!!! I love your range!!! Stay positive!
you're so cute! your voice sounds great then and now, keep singing!!!!!
Not a single thing in you or about you is ruined, Elle. We all regret some decisions and rejoice in others. We all mourn certain losses and embrace certain gains through life. Your spirit shines... all the way down to Mexico City, where I'm enjoying your singing right now. Give yourself as much time you need to process everything from recent years. Don't rush it. You will find out that we can feel pain and spread our wings at the same time.
Your singing is amazing, I could seriously listen both of your voices no stop. You should go for those singing lessons, they'll do nothing but good to something that already is amazing. You're wonderful.
I kinda teared up when you sang. You have so much heart and emotion in your voice.
Thank you for sharing. ♥️
I’ve taken singing lessons since I was 10 (I’m 20 now) & am studying to be a speech pathologist. I am here you tell you you can change your voice (reduce vocal fry, even get used to being in a higher range, etc.) it just takes practice & work! But nothing is impossible! You’re voice is amaZing now & could be even better if you took some sort of lessons, I promise💕 you have lots of potential, don’t think that because your voice changed it has lost all hope!
The grass is always greener on the other side and we always want what we don't have. Both of these definitely apply. You will have to find contentment with what and who you are! As for singing, acapella is very hard because it is difficult to stay on key. Your road is not easy because you seem headstrong and easily discontent. I am happy you've figured some things out for yourself and hope things will get easier for you as you continue into adulthood. If I had one piece of advice it would be to question your personal beliefs and don't assume they are set in stone. People may see things differently than you and maybe sometimes they are right.
Elle Palmer: Sounding better in two different ranges than you do in one 😎
You sound great how you are right now. Run with that...take the lessons that you want to and keep singing!
I feel like we have so much in common! Dallas is my favorite artist and I was singing along with you the whole time 😊 Your voice is a lot like mine and it feels really comforting to hear you talk about how beautiful you think yours is because I often feel so awful about my own. You’re so beautiful and your voice is lovely!
oh my god I've seen ur videos!!!! one day I was sad so I searched "women with deep voices" and yours came up and I watched it and you made me feel better about my voice too :)) solidarity. also you love dallas too holy crap!!!! let's be friends.
Your voice is still very very beautiful ...I am in tears I can see the pain in your eyes for the want of your old voice and I can imagine how hard it must be it's hard to live with knowledge that we wish we cud have known in the past but we only learn from the experience then have the realization of the experience
I’m 31 and used to want to be a singer too. I regret smoking...I no longer smoke, but when I was your age, I had an amazing voice and I absolutely could have become a singer had I quit sooner or never started. It wasn’t even that smoking messed up my voice that much (my breathing more, if anything) but mentally, those choices fucked me up. It to9 away a lot of my passion because I was so ashamed in my choices and my decisions. Like I said, I am 31 now..and most people regret a lot of things, even way before you get to my age. The most important thing to learn NOW (don’t wait until my age to learn it) is to now let regrets get in the way of pursuing anything, learning, growing as a person, etc. Mentally and emotionally, once we can get past regrets and start learning to living not for the past or future, but truly being PRESENT and in the NOW, that’s when you will become the most happy. These three things helped me grow the most during my 20s- acceptance, open-mindedness, and willingness. Learning to become accepting of yourself, accepting of the truth, accepting of problems to overcome, accepting of circumstances that are necessary to work through, accepting of others for who they are. Learning to become open-minded..not trying to be the “director” of mine and everybody else’s life around me, being able to open myself up to many different perceptions and not being a “sheep” or what anybody else expected of me or even what ai expect of myself..opening my mind to new intentions and learning to believe and live in those new intentions. Learning to be willing..willing to do the hard things it took in order to change and grow..willing to be more confident..willing to see myself not through everybody else’s negativity and being willing to speak up for myself..willing to challenge myself in small ways to make new healthy lifelong habits, etc....being accepting of loving myself, open-minded to be able to love myself better, and willing to love myself even when I felt like nobody else did...that is a big one! I hope my words of wisdom can resonate with you in some way and offer you encouragement and hope! We don’t always know who we are becoming, but we do know that we want to be happy, healthy, and love ourselves and love life. Don’t over analyze the things about yourself that you struggle with liking and accepting..learn to accept and love the things that you are growing in! You will also continue to find NEW passions and new reasons for purpose...I found purpose in some of the most unexpected ways..ways that stemmed from illness/disease and spreading awareness. I am able to help so many that are suffering with (or aren’t even aware yet that they have) a disease (that you can’t seek medical treatment for or really go to any doctors) that I have. My experiences with it have been...well..awful..but at the same time I grew a passion for wanting to spread awareness and try to help others not have to suffer as much as ai did my first few years. You will continue to find new purpose in your life over the next decade, and when you keep acceptance, an open-mind, and remain willing, you will see that you spend a lot more time living your life rather than thinking your life away.
I love your voice tbh. And honestly your voice seems very natural to me now and i don't feel like you are any less of a girl just because it's deeper.
Also i would love to see you do videos on topics beyond detransitionig as well, because i love your personality and you always have something smart to say and add to the conversation.
I could just sit and listen to you sing all day long
I think you’re doing awesome! And you have a beautiful smile!
You’re voice will get where you want it to be. Most singers train their voices. They have to.
You are doing great and you’re very brave!
Be blessed!
I think there’s a richness and depth to your voice now that you didn’t use to have. It’s now a much more interesting voice.
You’re such a beautiful person inside and out Elle. I love watching your videos, they’re so soothing, just like your voice. Wish I could have a friend like you❤️
elle you are so pretty ;-;
Wow, you really can sing. Loved this video.
I feel the same! I used to hate my voice when I was a teen and now here I am longing for it (I was a choir kid basically my entire school life) I was always in the highest level choir, I had an amazing range. Testosterone wrecked my voice but the thing with singing is it’s a skill that can always Improve with practice! I always put female vocalists on when I’m driving and just roll with my voice breaks and gradually I’ve the months my range is climbing off. I love my lower range tho! Instead of sounding weak and airy I can hit low notes effortlessly and I don’t take that for granted (always take the good with the bad) once I really master increasing my range I will be such a versatile singer and I’ll love it but regardless, always song from the heart ❤️
Sing Tracy Chapman's Fast Car for me.
I think you sharing your journey is so so so important. You are beautiful person so much love to you!
Loved this video 😍 You talk about such personal topics I can’t help but think I’d start crying but you are so strong, you’re voice is gorgeous too ❤️
its so cool that you can reflect on how awesome you were even when you felt opposite its taken me years to look back and be like WHY DID I BURY THIS PART OF ME AWAY! and you will look back at yourself now and do the same!
elle, you are such an inspiration to me!! keep on it! i love your videos
Your honesty has been refreshing and it's not just about the subject at hand, either. There aren't too many people who are able to analyze themselves, truthfully. (I still lie to myself daily... 😆) I'm glad you found or refound? yourself. To me ... its almost like finding a friend you lost touch with long ago... you get to hang out again, to catch up and be one with your old familiar friend, who meant so much to you before...
You still have a lovely singing voice dear. 👍🏻
if you ever come to a point where you feel like you want your voice back there are other options like voice feminization surgery, which is the route many trans women take if they feel their voice is too deep and doesn’t match their gender identity. i think you have a beautiful singing voice regardless and the most radiating personality but just wanted to put that information out there in case. wish you the best ❤️
Thank you for sharing. :) Your voice may be different but your still a great singer. I loved the first song you sang and I had to look it up.
City and Colour - Little Hell
I was such a huge fan of city and colour back around the same time you sang these recordings. Im 19 now and we have about a year age difference between eachother. Brought back memories of me and my friend jamming out and singing along. Haven't listened to them in ages. You both had and still have such a beautiful voice Elle ❤
Thank you for being so open and vulnerable sharing your experiences.
I wish I could sing. You should pursue this more! It's the confidence that has changed more than anything. Just look at the most powerful female singers in history, they had those rich warm tones too.
OMG Elle you can sing wow!!! Even though your voice is in a lower register you still sound amazing!!! I sing also so one singer to another girl you got a power voice!! Keep singing!! 💖
Just want to say that I LOVE City and Colour
Hope For Now.....man. I never heard of City and Colour. Thank you Elle for sharing all that is you. Your singing brought me to tears. Tears because of heart warm not heartache. It moved my guts for multiple reasons. One of them is because I know how you have struggled to accept your voice post hormones. That being said when you sang I cried because the very thing that has been hard to deal with is one of the most beautiful things I could have felt. I'm picking up what you are laying down. And it is magical.
Your voice is not ruined. Just a new range. You're lovely. I love both versions.
I think your voice is gorgeous, both then and now. But honestly, I feel so much more soul and emotion in your voice. Keep singing! And for what it’s worth, my voice is much deeper now (I’m 32) than when I was 15. It’s fun being able to hit the low notes!
Hi Elle. Your voice is beautiful now, and you use it very well. I feel fortunate that you share these deep reflections and intimate moments with us, because you're very wise, especially for your age. I also find myself reflecting on what might have been, and it increases as more of my choices move into my past. I'm not sure if I know how to deal with it either, but I'm hoping it becomes clearer as I figure out who I am.
Take care and thank you for the videos.
This was beautiful, thank you so much for sharing ❤
I honestly think that both your voice now and your voice then are good! I'd keep working on it and maybe get a voice coach if that is something you are interested in doing! Both singing is beautiful!
I am sure that you can still become a singer and you will be very successful. You have a great personality, lots of charisma and a beautiful voice ♥️
You have a beautiful voice back then and still now. You are such a gem! Thank you for sharing your feelings and story
Moral of the story, we are NEVER happy until we are happy with who we are. I hope you get over the regrets, I can’t imagine how hard this would be to deal with. I think your message is incredibly important and I’m so glad your are brave enough to share it! I promise you you are saving someone else these same regrets. Your voice is beautiful then and now by the way. I kinda of prefer the deep beautiful voice you have now. It’s so unique and is now apart of your story which only adds more depth.
Reach through all the mess you might still feel and hold on to the beauty you can pull out from all of this. Your voice is beautiful and I think your voice now, has more feeling to it. You’ve come out a wiser person, you’re very within yourself now and you can hear it in your voice now.
I think your singing sounds better now, but not because of the tone, but because you sound more confident than you were when you were 15 and that comes with maturity and experience. But yes, you had a beautiful voice.
7:32 - Mmm you’re doing the octave lower thing :) I always hated that my voice wanted to do that!
Wait! WAIT A MINUTE! YOU'RE SINGING CITY AND COLOUR! I'm in love with you, you have the best taste in music ever!
Also: Dont worry because with a bit of training you can easily get back to that! I'm a singer myself and I mean "Little Hell" is hella deep for a girl so I also used to struggle with it but practise makes perfect! And since your voice changed so much you can now hit the low notes and easily practise for higher notes! You got this❤
your voice is incredible. i've been following your videos and had no idea. so impressed.
I actually really like the voice you have now. And you can still train it professionally to sound even more beautiful.
Don’t give up on your dreams! You have a lovely voice! You can still persue this if you want to!
This whole time I've just had you followed on twitter and wondered why I don't see your vids here then I realized I wasn't subscribed 😣 well now I am. I love your septum by the way and your singing, I don't think it's ruined at all 😊
Edit: the ending 😂😂
Your voice has changed drastically in 3 months. I can hear the difference.
Listen to some Alison Moyet songs - she’s got a wonderful rich & lower woman’s singing voice.
Beautiful voice!Thank you for sharing your journey. Such courage! Your path can only get brighter.
Elle sweetheart I’m so glad you shared that with us. You did and do have a beautiful singing voice!! I think you’ve been so brave to deal with all you have! Never give up!💜
Thank you for singing!!! Please keep singing. Embrace the wonderful you you are now. Even though it might feel as if you’ve lost something, it’s only because you recall the past. You are both the young girl and the woman that you are. Your voice is rich womanly and gorgeous. Frankly I prefer a rich female voice.
FYI None of us are ever who we used to be when we were younger. I’ve tried to never regret my choices. Use what you have to be the best unique you.
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Beautiful singing voice back then and now. Thank you for sharing with us. ❤️
your journey has been very interesting to follow. every time you mention that you haven’t had the normal “growing up” experience, i just want to say that most people haven’t! yours just had a couple permanent external effects, but it ultimately makes you, you. you’re a beautiful human with beautiful and unique experiences.
You rule, Elle. You don’t need any of these UA-cam comments to be validated, self esteem shouldn’t come from the Internet!, but there’s a lot of love for you. ❤️
Love your current singing voice tbh ❤️
This video made me cry in the middle of the night you are the cutest girl in the entire world and this girl adores your voice from the first video I saw 🥰 you may have made it deeper through testosterone, but deep female voices are a beautiful thing and I'm totally here for it! I'm so proud of you for sharing your story 💕 thank you
Wow both voices are beautiful. But the voice you have now is so emotional...it's so so beautiful 🥰 I loved it
Elle! Your voice is so not ruined! It's awesome!!! O!M!G! Develop that voice woman! You know, female voices change too. You don't know what your voice would have come to be. You're right, you had a lovely clear voice, but you STILL have a lovely voice. Take voice lessons again and wow! You are amazingggg!
Your voice is just as amazing now as it was before!! if you want to work on technique you can always find a voice teacher, or a SLP, but as a voice therapist I have to tell you, the quality of your voice is good! and voice is really a performative thing, there aren't rules as to whether you should sound higher because you're a woman...there are lots of women with deep voices and that is beautiful too :)
And I also think that there are no mistakes in the universe, maybe there was never going to be that "other path", and your decisions have led you to be who you are now, an amazing mature woman (with a very cool voice) who is helping others so much and learning so much from everything that has happened to you. I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings, because you are entitled to them, just offering my thoughts about it :) I send you a big hug
I love your voice before, but your voice now is full of so much more emotion. I love the depth it has!
Your voice is beautiful Elle. You are singing acappella. That is a very hard thing to do and you are wonderful at it.
I love your voice, both then and now! As someone else who loves to sing and has transitioned, I'd definitely cosign joining a singing group and/or getting vocal lessons
Your current singing voice is so beautiful. I felt like crying. Just beautiful.
Your voice definitely isn't ruined!! :)
I would listen to your music if you were to record it, it sounds so good!
Different from when you were younger, but a very lovely voice to listen to! You have such a great ear and natural expression. So nice! The quality of your voice reminds me a little bit of Melody Gardot. Nina Simone has a very distinct deeper resonance- Fleetwood Mac, Etta James, Lana Del Rey, Peggy Lee, Pink....there are lots of different and awesome types of women voices out there, and yours is one of them! Keep singing!!
You sound terrific either way! Great timbre!!
I actually prefer your lower singing voice!!!
You sounded young because you were young. You still are!!
You sounded lovely. You sound different now. But still good x
This is the thing... we never appreciate what we have when we have it. At the time we hate it. Then we look back and think wow, I was amazing! Why didn't I realise it?
If only if realised it then. That never changes! Your 30 yr old self will look back to now and think that. Then your 40yr old self will look back to your 30 yr old self and think that...
And so on and so on...
Trust me. That never changes!
You'll never appreciate what you have as much as when you don't have it anymore. That's being human. That's normal