@6.4 Powerstroke The Legend those engines are quite capable of making a lot more power than they came with in stock trim, look up " Dyno Smith" channel video of an 8v92 twin turbo 800 HP and just shi of 2000 lb ft of torque.
sleepingwiththedog I guess the sound that makes any of us make a statement such as "the Holy Grail of diesel engines"..... is purely "in the ear of the beholder". As much as the 8V92 is a sweet sounding mill... for me, the 12V71 is the "Holy Grail" of diesel sound... and I've driven virtually every DD that was produced for use in OTR and Dump truck(in my very early years of trucking) applications, which specifically were the.. 4-71, 6-71, 6V71, 8V71 and the mighty 12V71(all, in NA and various Turbocharged configurations), as well as the 6 and 8V92's. As an "OO" (Owner Operator... w/my own authority) I've owned one 69 extended hood Pete, and two extended hood KW's (a 74 and an 82)... all three with 12V71's.... and they were not "stock", by any means. The only "power" that could run with me in the grades were some of the mid 70's KTA (the 600's) powered KW's & Petes.... that is, when they could keep them "together". lol : ) Prior to trucking, I studied Diesel Engine Design & Theory (specializing in 2 cycle) for 4 years and also attended DD "summer school" training.... which helped me greatly, in "building" my own 12V's.... and a few inline 6-71's & a 6-110 for others. I also worked on the 12V71 powered 1974 KW - known as the "Lady Butterfly" in the Pro - Semi class of sled pullers ("youtube" - search for it), which belonged (still does) to a close friend and fellow Owner Operator (retired).... and for you DD "experts" out there, who say that 2,350 rpms is about the maximum the they can be "turned".... or, that 2100 rpms is Maximum for "longevity"..... the "12" in the "Butterfly" had a Million, six hundred thousand on her, when "she" was retired to begin her life as a sled puller..... and lasted over 1100 "hooks" before spinning a main bearing in 2006, necessitating a quick block change (in lew of time), and it spins at 4,000 to 4,200 rpms with 240cc injectors and one 6V92 turbo for each blower and a fuel delivery system ("home" designed & built) that would send chills up your spine. My own 12V's NEVER saw LESS than, 2,100 rpms under load.... and my "normal" operating range was between 2,250 and 2,600 rpms... with a governed maximum (loaded) of 3,100 rpms..... and the entire reciprocating assembly was fully balanced in each of them, when I built them. Each of my two KW's had well over a million miles on them when I retired them.... and Never had the heads off them, after "building" them.... with the exception of routine PM (Preventitive Maintenance).... ie: removing the blowers and re-sealing the shafts BEFORE they would start sucking oil in, through the drive ends and "coking" the intake ports and spitting oil out of the airbox drain tubes and onto the ground... which was the "premier" reason for oil, on the ground.... because the owners would not take the time to do proper maintenance... Every engine, had it's "quirks" and needed special attention to certain parts (Cummins, was plagued with injector "issues" for years... especially with their "top stop" series.... Cats had "issues" with the "deck plates" and ongoing water pump failures, especially with the 3406 A's & B's, the earlier 1693 TA's had overheating issues, their engines that were hydraulic retarder (brake saver) equipped, usually had rear pump seal issues, etc, etc, etc with different engines).... so, in comparison, the 2 cycle DD's were really... relatively, "issue" free and they enjoyed a history of being (overall) Very Reliable.... born out, by the fact that they (by far) were the Single Longest production run, engine design in the History of the worlds engines, from 1938 (the 6-71... although, the 4-71 was actually the First 2 cycle prototype, built) until 1998... as far as "mass production" is concerned. Fact is, that the 6V53, 8V71 & 8V92's..... are STILL being produced for the same hypocritical gov't that forced the 2 cycles out of mass production due to being "too dirty" for emission standards beyond tier 2 specs for highway use.... Yet, are in use today... in marine (Naval gen sets, etc.) and land - military applications -via- ongoing, limited production runs !! The little 51 series (marine) has long since been out of production (1950's.... was replaced with the 53 series in 1957) and the big 149 series was in production until the early "2000's".... I forget the exact date that production stopped and were replaced with the DD/MTU 4 cycles of various series and cylinder configurations, ie: 4000 series.
I wish I had that truck! I was raised about a mile from where they would build the GMC Astro's and Chevy Titans. The sound of those trucks coming down the road going through their gears was music to me. I eventually became a truck driver and have been for over 20 years now. That sound was a big part of my inspiration. Thanks for sharing.
+Brian E. Scott I grew up listening to trucks pull a small incline after getting loaded with corn and carrots at two farms/co-ops in central Florida back in the early 80's. It was only about a half mile to the stop sign at the highway, but they'd shift 6-8 times. That sound always takes me back.
It's a shame you can't economically run one of these beauties in regular service today. They sound amazing and nothing pulls quite like a screamin' Jimmy, but they drink so heavily that they're just not practical.
I remember those where I lived back in the late 70's and early 80's. The engines did indeed drown out the sirens. You knew for certain without seeing that it was a fire engine.
Now that brings back some very pleasant memories. Drove a 8v-92 from '79-'85. The 3408 Cat was a nice engine as well but the sound of the Detroit was sweet. The one I drove could pull anything, topped at 2100 RPM in a GMC Astro cabover sleeper. The thing never seemed to lack power. The 3408 and the Cummins 550 were both good engines back then and I'd take them over anything today except the fuel mileage.
What a sweet piece of history. I learned to "drive" on a GMC with a 6V-92 and a 9 speed. Later worked for a company where I had a International tractor with a 8V-92 @445hp and a 9 speed. Really needed a 13 or 15 in it, as it was a "Heavy Hauler". A lot of gear gap at 100,000 + gross. I currently work for a local govt and we have one aerial truck with a 8V-92 @475hp. It's a little slow at launch with Allison, but oh that sweet music behind me. :)
I did work experience at Detroit diesel back in 1988, they pulled out the twin motors from a scraper that had been decommissioned, 8v 92s and rebuilt them for a stationary water pump out bush , I still rember that deep throat grunt from the dyno room, over 1200 hp, expecting to pump 80 ltrs per second, at 800 psi, I thought the dyno room was going to explode.
Combination of a well-worn Fuller transmission and a driver who knows what he's doing. Precisely the way my late father taught me to shift...it's not about how quickly you get up to speed, it's how smooth you are through the gears.
Gotta love em.92s had a less throaty beller than the 71s but both were true warriors.I always found Detroit's were easier to feel and time when it came to shifting gears.Theyre also not as short on power as they're perceived to be.Best sounding diesels ever.
im from the uk and for a short time 6V71 and the 8V92 Detroit Diesels were fitted to Bedford TM lorries but not many had them because of mpg and emissions. id rather listen to one of these than a modern day lorry
+copperheadmarine thats good just goes to show you that 2 stroke diesels are not that bad on fuel. they stopped putting these in buses are trucks because of emissions. stupid really.
+Michael Jagger If you think of it though, the equipment to make this engine comply with emission standards (if it's even possible) for this day in age, would make it much less fuel efficient. Hell, the modern engines will get better mileage if you remove the emissions control stuff (like the DPF).
+Benjamin “Ozias” Esposti many people remove DPF's because all they do is cause problems. i hate modern technology too complicated,. i prefer old trucks like this they have character, you can fix them yourself, go on forever an sound great. the older stuff is better they don't build em like they used to. nothing like a screaming jimmy.
+Michael Jagger Are you sure you're not confusing the sound with the 2 stroke Commer Knocker opposed piston engine. The Knocker originated in the UK and were common at one time but didn't have much power for highway use. They were the loudest automotive diesel engine I ever heard esp. when under load. Since they had no power they were therefore good at turning fuel into noise. I like :)
Used to have an 85 W900 with a B Model Cat, buttonhook 15 speed, 3.90s and tall rubber. Seeing that dash again brought back some fond ( and not so fond ) memories of Big Tomato. The truck that did me in on trucking was a double wide K100, long wheelbase with an 8V92 ( 435hp ), an Allison automatic, 4 fuel tanks and maybe a 280" wheelbase ( it might have been longer ). Sitting on top of that motor was heaven for a kid and I fell hard for the industry.
yeah, i am thinking about it since i realize those engines exist. They are so cool but so useless...I cant imagine to listen it whole day...my experience is from car, when i bought blow off valve. One 1000km+ trip and i removed that noisy gadget.
Lately I've been listening to Scania trucks from Sweden,via You-Tube. They sound great but nothing compared to this excellent sounding Detroit Diesel. Thank you for sharing.
The Detroits can scream. When I was a kid the company my father worked for bought 3 old Texaco GMC Tractors to haul dump trailers with 671 engines, and boy they were loud.
My first ride was a 1984 IH 4370 with a silver 8V-92 rated at 445hp, did alot of work to that old girl and had her pushin' about 650hp to the ground, man would she fly!!! Had 6" mitre cut straights standing 12' 6", buddy when you'd drop the Jake on would she ever cackle!!! Wish I knew what happened to that old truck, would love to have it back just to restore it and drive it around town to piss off the neighbors!!!
My God brings back memories of daddies truck 8v 92 triaxle dump. Man what I would give to go back as a little girl n ride in daddies 8v 92 Detroit... Trucking bank gravel, and dirty dirt...I remember that screaming Detroit coming home you'd hear him a long time before you saw him coming home for dinner. That truck would pull a house down!!! Literally me n my brothers loved those yrs. N loved that truck n daddy.😍👍👍
I love Jimmy's I worked on Terex earth moving equipment for many years and consequently lots of GM diesels from 4.71s upto 16v 92s twin turbos aftercooled.
The trailer brake lever is what you use when you borrow a trailer.Then you save your tractor brakes.Simple economics.Can't beat the sound of a 92.Ran a 430 in a 78 pete,in 78.Keep trucking,great vid.
Great Video. I remember this sound all too well. I love the old 2 stroke detroit diesels.my favorite was the silver 92.thats when Detroit was really pulling hard as well as sounding good. That engine inspired me to go into trucking. I currently own an 96 caterpillar powered 9400 international. But if I could find an old GMC General or Astro Cabo very with an 8V92, I will restore it to perfection. Keep on trucking!
+Eric Haley.... Why don't you look for an Astro with a 12V ??..... Very "Sweet" running engine and considerably less issues and longer life, than the 8V92 which essentially replaced it..... in OTR trucks. A well set up, 12V NA will out pull a single turbo 8V92, easily...... and sound a whole lot "hornier" doing it. lol : ) A single turbocharged 8V92, weighs about the same as a 12V71N... about 2 - 300 lbs less. Look up.... 12V71 Kenworth pulling Satus Pass Part 1 (he never did put up a Part 2)- on UA-cam .... If you haven't watched it before.... it is Thee Best DD powered truck video on the net..... 17+ minutes of pure 12V71N power... great sound... and Mike is a smooth owner / operator... and driver. Check it out... 17:54min of "2 cycle heaven" !! lol : )
My dad worked for a Detroit dealership when the Silver 92TA's first came out. When he did a new installation, he used to run them at Peak Torque from sea level (Jacobs Avenue to the top of Berry Summit, Hwy 299 in California +/-3,000 ft). I wish i'd been able to take that ride with him. That'd have been an E-Ticket ride!
@alex189100 The first N-14's still had a PT or pressure time system but they had hydralic step timing to try to reduce cold smoke and the chopping at idle. The electronic N-14 remedies those problems. The N-14 block has more nicle in it and the liners are suppoted at the top and bottom of the counter bore to prevent the liner walk problems of the big cam engines in the higher HP configurations.
Brings back memories, back in the day I ran a 74 autocar 318 Detroit, 13-speed double over, and 2 speed Eaton Rears. 4 axle tractor pulling a 4 axle Rogers lowboy mostly. When I got well up above 100,000, I spent lots of times in Lolo gears with that Detroit Diesel screaming. We were Crane Rental outfit based out of Pennsylvania and I spent a lot of times going up mountains at a slow walking pace.
In the 1960's I drove an IH cabover with an in line 6 Detroit two cycle. Sounded much like this. It was two stroke. And the guy who mentioned they were not that great on hills is right. But an old trucker back then told me, "as soon as it starts to loose RPM, get you another gear". So you could really do some trucking with one if you did a ton of shifting. Later they put me in a F model Mack cabover with a gold Mack engine which had only 5 speeds. Very little shifting but on a hill in high gear you had to wait till you got down to about 35 mph to make your first shift. Often I wished I had more gears so I could go ahead and shift to see if I could keep my speed at around 50 & the Mack often would hold on at 40 to 45 mph & then top the grade & you never got to shift at all which was nice but you wondered if you were ever going to get to the top. All the while that Mack engine barking loud & the black smoke just rolling out the stack. I think a Mack smoked more than any engine back then. Thick black smoke covering up the vehicles behind you when pulling hard. Anybody agree? Back then most tractors on the east coast were IH, Mack & White. Freightliner which is clearly no. 1 now was a rare name back then. Pete's & KW's were mostly on the west coast. Other brands we had in the 60's on the road were Ford, Dodge, GMC, Diamond T, Reo, Diamond Reo, Autocar. But most were either IH cabovers or White or Mack conventionals. Well White sold a decent number of cabovers & Mack did too but IH cab-over was the leader. Oh another make was Brockway back then. Now you can't get most drivers to consider a cab-over & I'm glad the industry finally let them go. Bad ride, small cab & sleeper & no hood for some protection if you did have a crash. The trucking companies loved them for their short turning radius & easy fit with a long trailer but they were really lousy for a driver. All agree?
I learned to drive when irascible was in business. They had som Mack’s an cab overs. One cab over learned to drive had the in line 6 Detroit 238 . Wow small engine but had a awesome sound.
As far as semis, all I grew up around was CAT because my step dad was an OTR trucker. it wasn't until he landed a job with Chezik Transport and he started driving a Freightliner Century 120 that I knew what a Detroit was. Before that, he drive an '01 Classic XL with a 550 CAT. that engine sounded so damn good! With 33 years experience, he much preferred Caterpillar
That 550 was a 3406 E model.Caterpillar built the best truck engines period.Absolutely rock solid powerhouses.I had 2 of them and nothing even comes close.
Listening to that big Detroit is the sweetest sound that one could hear! It brings back a lot of memories of my youth. Thumbs up to you sir for this video!
The more noise you have the faster you go which is what Detroit demands. They don’t like to pushy foot around. Give them the beans and you’ll get somewhere. Imagine it’s a chainsaw.
Don’t know what yr this 900 is but brings back memories of many hours looking over that hood! Same dash as well . I had 2000 w900 w Detroit 60 series. I never knew about 2stroke big diesel motors till few yrs ago and I’m 45! Absolutely love it ! Great video Thanks
This was the engine that got me hooked on trucking as a kid, except it was in a double wide K100 with an Allison automatic behind it. It was used to pull tankers out of Joliet. The sound takes me back to a happier time. Too bad they can't make these two strokers run cleaner, I'd run one in a heartbeat with a DDEC doing the controlling.
Got a N14 Redtop in a FL Classic ( she's a 99 ), haul steel grossing 80-90k all the time. Just shifting at 1500 to 1650 is all that's needed to get down the road and still do high 5's to low 6's loaded. Awesome engine. The truck that corrupted me though was a KW K100 doublewide with a 435hp 8V-92 and an Allison auto. It was a showtruck back in the early 80s and pulled tankers in Joliet. I was no good after that.
The only sound that could be better than the V8 Detroit would be a V12 Detroit. Now that is music to your ears OH YAAAA Pulling two 20 containers in a train with 40,000 payload in each one!! been there done that.
When I drove for Schneider they tried 4 Series 60 Detroit's. I could set the cruise on 55 and climb the Rockies in the left lane passing everybody! Should have saw the weird looks I would get!
There is no more beautiful sound to me than the 92. Even though they're essentially worthless, even the jakes sounded good. Too bad the Californians made them obsolete. Kalifornication.
Everybody thinks they are hill gutless and too much shifting but you would get that mentality being spoiled with diesel engines designed for low end torque. The 2 stroke detroit came from a time period when a lot of shifting was normal due to narrow powerbands and low power output. "Not just a different time, it was a different world"
I also have a 8V92TA in a W925, as the factory setting is 435HP@2100RPM, I would like to obtain a long life from my engine, so it will remain at 2100RPM, but it is a great engine!
Stewart and Stevenson made marine 8/92 T/I's that went into most high end (Hatteras, Bertram, etc) sportfishing boats in the 42-50' range back in the day. They were rated at 735hp at 2350rpm. Depending on how you treated them they'd go anywhere from 2000 to 3500 hrs before rebuild.
Hello everyone.... just to let you know..... that if you think this 8V92 video sounds great (and, it does).... go search for ... 12V71 Kenworth pulling Satus Pass Part 1.... 17:54min. Just shy of 18 minutes of pure 12V71N Power.... and Mike is a Smooth driver & Owner/Operator. I only wish he had set the camera just a little higher, so you could see that extended hood, out there... the way he had it, it's like looking out the windshield of a cab over.... cannot see the hood at all..... but, that Buzzin Dozen sounds Wonderful !!
I used to drive a Brockway with an 8v71 Detroit, 13 speed, 4.11 gears and 22" wheels. Governor was set at 2450 and the rack was set by a Detroit guru. It would run 86 mph unloaded or lightly loaded and it would hold about 2200 rpm in 13th gear with 80,000 lbs in flat ground.
love it ,I have a 85 Autocar with a ntc 600 cummins a rto14613 she is turnning 2500 with 355 rears on 24.5 tall rubber has big holset turbo ceramioc coated manifolds and turbohousing with enhancer and heat boot! All i can say is I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
For 22 years I worked at the Redford Plant building these fine engines, thanks for letting me hear the sound of real power again.
so you're to blame. The words Detroit and power go together like government and intelligence.
@6.4 Powerstroke The Legend chalay, your pickup doesn't have the same power your dreaming.
@6.4 Powerstroke The Legend those engines are quite capable of making a lot more power than they came with in stock trim, look up " Dyno Smith" channel video of an 8v92 twin turbo 800 HP and just shi of 2000 lb ft of torque.
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The powersmoke was developed from an IH engine old corn binder.
And how did that work out for you ? Your still broke
who in the world would give that audio thumbs down that is positively the Holy Grail of diesel engines
sleepingwiththedog I guess the sound that makes any of us make a statement such as "the Holy Grail of diesel engines"..... is purely "in the ear of the beholder".
As much as the 8V92 is a sweet sounding mill... for me, the 12V71 is the "Holy Grail" of diesel sound... and I've driven virtually every DD that was produced for use in OTR and Dump truck(in my very early years of trucking) applications, which specifically were the.. 4-71, 6-71, 6V71, 8V71 and the mighty 12V71(all, in NA and various Turbocharged configurations), as well as the 6 and 8V92's.
As an "OO" (Owner Operator... w/my own authority) I've owned one 69 extended hood Pete, and two extended hood KW's (a 74 and an 82)... all three with 12V71's.... and they were not "stock", by any means. The only "power" that could run with me in the grades were some of the mid 70's KTA (the 600's) powered KW's & Petes.... that is, when they could keep them "together". lol : )
Prior to trucking, I studied Diesel Engine Design & Theory (specializing in 2 cycle) for 4 years and also attended DD "summer school" training.... which helped me greatly, in "building" my own 12V's.... and a few inline 6-71's & a 6-110 for others.
I also worked on the 12V71 powered 1974 KW - known as the "Lady Butterfly" in the Pro - Semi class of sled pullers ("youtube" - search for it), which belonged (still does) to a close friend and fellow Owner Operator (retired).... and for you DD "experts" out there, who say that 2,350 rpms is about the maximum the they can be "turned".... or, that 2100 rpms is Maximum for "longevity"..... the "12" in the "Butterfly" had a Million, six hundred thousand on her, when "she" was retired to begin her life as a sled puller..... and lasted over 1100 "hooks" before spinning a main bearing in 2006, necessitating a quick block change (in lew of time), and it spins at 4,000 to 4,200 rpms with 240cc injectors and one 6V92 turbo for each blower and a fuel delivery system ("home" designed & built) that would send chills up your spine.
My own 12V's NEVER saw LESS than, 2,100 rpms under load.... and my "normal" operating range was between 2,250 and 2,600 rpms... with a governed maximum (loaded) of 3,100 rpms..... and the entire reciprocating assembly was fully balanced in each of them, when I built them. Each of my two KW's had well over a million miles on them when I retired them.... and Never had the heads off them, after "building" them.... with the exception of routine PM (Preventitive Maintenance).... ie: removing the blowers and re-sealing the shafts BEFORE they would start sucking oil in, through the drive ends and "coking" the intake ports and spitting oil out of the airbox drain tubes and onto the ground... which was the "premier" reason for oil, on the ground.... because the owners would not take the time to do proper maintenance...
Every engine, had it's "quirks" and needed special attention to certain parts (Cummins, was plagued with injector "issues" for years... especially with their "top stop" series.... Cats had "issues" with the "deck plates" and ongoing water pump failures, especially with the 3406 A's & B's, the earlier 1693 TA's had overheating issues, their engines that were hydraulic retarder (brake saver) equipped, usually had rear pump seal issues, etc, etc, etc with different engines).... so, in comparison, the 2 cycle DD's were really... relatively, "issue" free and they enjoyed a history of being (overall) Very Reliable.... born out, by the fact that they (by far) were the Single Longest production run, engine design in the History of the worlds engines, from 1938 (the 6-71... although, the 4-71 was actually the First 2 cycle prototype, built) until 1998... as far as "mass production" is concerned.
Fact is, that the 6V53, 8V71 & 8V92's..... are STILL being produced for the same hypocritical gov't that forced the 2 cycles out of mass production due to being "too dirty" for emission standards beyond tier 2 specs for highway use.... Yet, are in use today... in marine (Naval gen sets, etc.) and land - military applications -via- ongoing, limited production runs !!
The little 51 series (marine) has long since been out of production (1950's.... was replaced with the 53 series in 1957) and the big 149 series was in production until the early "2000's".... I forget the exact date that production stopped and were replaced with the DD/MTU 4 cycles of various series and cylinder configurations, ie: 4000 series.
2Stroke Diesel Power thats amazing man.
sleepingwiththedog amen
2Stroke Diesel Power- thanks for the info! Michigan two stroke old school motocross rider here.
The libs are complaining it’s too loud
this guy is a good driver.smooth shifts and he s not trying to drive it like its a damn race car just because its got a jimmy motor in it!
Thats how you are supposed to drive them
Now this a true driver non of that Jake braking in every effing gear ...... Just driving with pure skills
thumbs up if you love screaming jimmy's
thumbs Down if you believe revvin' a 71 series into 2700 RPM (indicated, not necessarily true) just to show off for a bunch of Yaa Hoos
@@dehoedisc7247 it's a 92 series idiot
I wish I had that truck! I was raised about a mile from where they would build the GMC Astro's and Chevy Titans. The sound of those trucks coming down the road going through their gears was music to me. I eventually became a truck driver and have been for over 20 years now. That sound was a big part of my inspiration. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome story! Trucks have been around me since I was a tiny infant too. Take care!
+Brian E. Scott I grew up listening to trucks pull a small incline after getting loaded with corn and carrots at two farms/co-ops in central Florida back in the early 80's. It was only about a half mile to the stop sign at the highway, but they'd shift 6-8 times. That sound always takes me back.
MattInTheHat just imagine what it would've been like to drive during the good years of trucking!
It's a shame you can't economically run one of these beauties in regular service today. They sound amazing and nothing pulls quite like a screamin' Jimmy, but they drink so heavily that they're just not practical.
When I was a kid, fire trucks had 8v71's in them with straight pipes where I lived & the engines were louder than the sirens.........
ya alot of our older rigs here in mn had 6v71 still pretty loud. lol
I remember those where I lived back in the late 70's and early 80's. The engines did indeed drown out the sirens. You knew for certain without seeing that it was a fire engine.
Lol same i remember hearing the fire trucks engines just screaming down the road
no sure how a guys hearing holds up after spending years in one of these ol girls!
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Now that brings back some very pleasant memories. Drove a 8v-92 from '79-'85. The 3408 Cat was a nice engine as well but the sound of the Detroit was sweet. The one I drove could pull anything, topped at 2100 RPM in a GMC Astro cabover sleeper. The thing never seemed to lack power. The 3408 and the Cummins 550 were both good engines back then and I'd take them over anything today except the fuel mileage.
What a sweet piece of history. I learned to "drive" on a GMC with a 6V-92 and a 9 speed. Later worked for a company where I had a International tractor with a 8V-92 @445hp and a 9 speed. Really needed a 13 or 15 in it, as it was a "Heavy Hauler". A lot of gear gap at 100,000 + gross. I currently work for a local govt and we have one aerial truck with a 8V-92 @475hp. It's a little slow at launch with Allison, but oh that sweet music behind me. :)
8V92 Silver has the sound of POWER!!
Man them old 2 stroke Detroit's have a sound of there own , they're very reliable also
What a Champion.. He's driving that beautifully.. Like musical feet.. Could listen to that all day.. Goodstuff..
Drove an old Carpet Transport truck set up like that …got it out of Dalton Ga…hauled grain and scrap with it….got a lot of tickets.lol
That 92 sounds bad with those nice slow shifts and he holds her up there for bit before that next gear. Love it. Best sounding 92 video on youtube
I did work experience at Detroit diesel back in 1988, they pulled out the twin motors from a scraper that had been decommissioned, 8v 92s and rebuilt them for a stationary water pump out bush , I still rember that deep throat grunt from the dyno room, over 1200 hp, expecting to pump 80 ltrs per second, at 800 psi, I thought the dyno room was going to explode.
This guy is good and the engine sounds beautiful.
nice to see one being driven considerately instead of rakin the crap out of every gear,i'd love one of these in my scammell.
these 892's are the greatest sounding engine.
I would ride all day just to Listen to his professionalism
A high revving two stroke Detroit plus no ground gears is music to my ears!!
Is it just me or are they the smoothest gear changes ever?
Combination of a well-worn Fuller transmission and a driver who knows what he's doing. Precisely the way my late father taught me to shift...it's not about how quickly you get up to speed, it's how smooth you are through the gears.
Agreed
He’s a driver that can make equipment last
@@deborahchesser7375 or otherwise called a smart owner-operator
It's just you, HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Gotta love em.92s had a less throaty beller than the 71s but both were true warriors.I always found Detroit's were easier to feel and time when it came to shifting gears.Theyre also not as short on power as they're perceived to be.Best sounding diesels ever.
big, green and mean, CAT-killing Machine !
@Adventures of Trucker186 especially a 3408T
im from the uk and for a short time 6V71 and the 8V92 Detroit Diesels were fitted to Bedford TM lorries but not many had them because of mpg and emissions. id rather listen to one of these than a modern day lorry
This truck gets almost the fuel mileage of the 470 hp 12.7 liter series 60 Detroit diesel.
+copperheadmarine thats good just goes to show you that 2 stroke diesels are not that bad on fuel. they stopped putting these in buses are trucks because of emissions. stupid really.
+Michael Jagger
If you think of it though, the equipment to make this engine comply with emission standards (if it's even possible) for this day in age, would make it much less fuel efficient. Hell, the modern engines will get better mileage if you remove the emissions control stuff (like the DPF).
+Benjamin “Ozias” Esposti many people remove DPF's because all they do is cause problems. i hate modern technology too complicated,. i prefer old trucks like this they have character, you can fix them yourself, go on forever an sound great. the older stuff is better they don't build em like they used to. nothing like a screaming jimmy.
+Michael Jagger Are you sure you're not confusing the sound with the 2 stroke Commer Knocker opposed piston engine. The Knocker originated in the UK and were common at one time but didn't have much power for highway use. They were the loudest automotive diesel engine I ever heard esp. when under load.
Since they had no power they were therefore good at turning fuel into noise.
I like :)
Used to have an 85 W900 with a B Model Cat, buttonhook 15 speed, 3.90s and tall rubber. Seeing that dash again brought back some fond ( and not so fond ) memories of Big Tomato. The truck that did me in on trucking was a double wide K100, long wheelbase with an 8V92 ( 435hp ), an Allison automatic, 4 fuel tanks and maybe a 280" wheelbase ( it might have been longer ). Sitting on top of that motor was heaven for a kid and I fell hard for the industry.
Dullest gearbox ever
That is pure filth. Nobody needs a stereo when that soundtrack is standard.
I don't know how you'd be able to here the radio any way
yeah, i am thinking about it since i realize those engines exist. They are so cool but so useless...I cant imagine to listen it whole day...my experience is from car, when i bought blow off valve. One 1000km+ trip and i removed that noisy gadget.
The sound of that screamin demon is the only music you need lol
As awesome as it is :-) after about 9 hours it's not much fun anymore ;-(
Until you owned one
Lately I've been listening to Scania trucks from Sweden,via You-Tube. They sound great but nothing compared to this excellent sounding Detroit Diesel. Thank you for sharing.
The Detroits can scream. When I was a kid the company my father worked for bought 3 old Texaco GMC Tractors to haul dump trailers with 671 engines, and boy they were loud.
Never has shifting been smoother....beautiful
Good Lord, then 8v92s are EARGASMIC!! Man, I miss that sound, takes me right back to shotgun with Pop pop!
My first ride was a 1984 IH 4370 with a silver 8V-92 rated at 445hp, did alot of work to that old girl and had her pushin' about 650hp to the ground, man would she fly!!! Had 6" mitre cut straights standing 12' 6", buddy when you'd drop the Jake on would she ever cackle!!! Wish I knew what happened to that old truck, would love to have it back just to restore it and drive it around town to piss off the neighbors!!!
My God brings back memories of daddies truck 8v 92 triaxle dump. Man what I would give to go back as a little girl n ride in daddies 8v 92 Detroit... Trucking bank gravel, and dirty dirt...I remember that screaming Detroit coming home you'd hear him a long time before you saw him coming home for dinner. That truck would pull a house down!!! Literally me n my brothers loved those yrs. N loved that truck n daddy.😍👍👍
That man knows how to drive! Amazing smooth shifting. I bet he loves this truck so much
I love Jimmy's I worked on Terex earth moving equipment for many years and consequently lots of GM diesels from 4.71s upto 16v 92s twin turbos aftercooled.
The trailer brake lever is what you use when you borrow a trailer.Then you save your tractor brakes.Simple economics.Can't beat the sound of a 92.Ran a 430 in a 78 pete,in 78.Keep trucking,great vid.
Great Video. I remember this sound all too well. I love the old 2 stroke detroit diesels.my favorite was the silver 92.thats when Detroit was really pulling hard as well as sounding good. That engine inspired me to go into trucking. I currently own an 96 caterpillar powered 9400 international. But if I could find an old GMC General or Astro Cabo very with an 8V92, I will restore it to perfection. Keep on trucking!
+Eric Haley.... Why don't you look for an Astro with a 12V ??..... Very "Sweet" running engine and considerably less issues and longer life, than the 8V92 which essentially replaced it..... in OTR trucks.
A well set up, 12V NA will out pull a single turbo 8V92, easily...... and sound a whole lot "hornier" doing it. lol : ) A single turbocharged 8V92, weighs about the same as a 12V71N... about 2 - 300 lbs less.
Look up.... 12V71 Kenworth pulling Satus Pass Part 1 (he never did put up a Part 2)- on UA-cam .... If you haven't watched it before.... it is Thee Best DD powered truck video on the net..... 17+ minutes of pure 12V71N power... great sound... and Mike is a smooth owner / operator... and driver. Check it out... 17:54min of "2 cycle heaven" !! lol : )
My dad worked for a Detroit dealership when the Silver 92TA's first came out. When he did a new installation, he used to run them at Peak Torque from sea level (Jacobs Avenue to the top of Berry Summit, Hwy 299 in California +/-3,000 ft). I wish i'd been able to take that ride with him. That'd have been an E-Ticket ride!
When your son is a certified Detroit d mechanic. Good times.
An 8v92 MCI coach is so lovely to drive. I miss driving em.
@alex189100 The first N-14's still had a PT or pressure time system but they had hydralic step timing to try to reduce cold smoke and the chopping at idle. The electronic N-14 remedies those problems. The N-14 block has more nicle in it and the liners are suppoted at the top and bottom of the counter bore to prevent the liner walk problems of the big cam engines in the higher HP configurations.
Brings back memories, back in the day I ran a 74 autocar 318 Detroit, 13-speed double over, and 2 speed Eaton Rears. 4 axle tractor pulling a 4 axle Rogers lowboy mostly. When I got well up above 100,000, I spent lots of times in Lolo gears with that Detroit Diesel screaming. We were Crane Rental outfit based out of Pennsylvania and I spent a lot of times going up mountains at a slow walking pace.
In the 1960's I drove an IH cabover with an in line 6 Detroit two cycle. Sounded much like this. It was two stroke. And the guy who mentioned they were not that great on hills is right. But an old trucker back then told me, "as soon as it starts to loose RPM, get you another gear". So you could really do some trucking with one if you did a ton of shifting. Later they put me in a F model Mack cabover with a gold Mack engine which had only 5 speeds. Very little shifting but on a hill in high gear you had to wait till you got down to about 35 mph to make your first shift. Often I wished I had more gears so I could go ahead and shift to see if I could keep my speed at around 50 & the Mack often would hold on at 40 to 45 mph & then top the grade & you never got to shift at all which was nice but you wondered if you were ever going to get to the top. All the while that Mack engine barking loud & the black smoke just rolling out the stack. I think a Mack smoked more than any engine back then. Thick black smoke covering up the vehicles behind you when pulling hard. Anybody agree? Back then most tractors on the east coast were IH, Mack & White. Freightliner which is clearly no. 1 now was a rare name back then. Pete's & KW's were mostly on the west coast. Other brands we had in the 60's on the road were Ford, Dodge, GMC, Diamond T, Reo, Diamond Reo, Autocar. But most were either IH cabovers or White or Mack conventionals. Well White sold a decent number of cabovers & Mack did too but IH cab-over was the leader. Oh another make was Brockway back then. Now you can't get most drivers to consider a cab-over & I'm glad the industry finally let them go. Bad ride, small cab & sleeper & no hood for some protection if you did have a crash. The trucking companies loved them for their short turning radius & easy fit with a long trailer but they were really lousy for a driver. All agree?
I agree. It's very rare to see a cabover on the road nowadays. Some of them would give you a rough ride on 80-94 through Chi-town.
I learned to drive when irascible was in business. They had som Mack’s an cab overs. One cab over learned to drive had the in line 6 Detroit 238 . Wow small engine but had a awesome sound.
Can tell you came out of the old "skool" there driver.
As far as semis, all I grew up around was CAT because my step dad was an OTR trucker. it wasn't until he landed a job with Chezik Transport and he started driving a Freightliner Century 120 that I knew what a Detroit was. Before that, he drive an '01 Classic XL with a 550 CAT. that engine sounded so damn good! With 33 years experience, he much preferred Caterpillar
That 550 was a 3406 E model.Caterpillar built the best truck engines period.Absolutely rock solid powerhouses.I had 2 of them and nothing even comes close.
I had a couple of 8V92 powered KW's. 435 and 465. Antenna benders for sure!!
Listening to that big Detroit is the sweetest sound that one could hear! It brings back a lot of memories of my youth. Thumbs up to you sir for this video!
This driver has a good ear making that Jimmy sing
Reminds me the last truck my grandfather drove, GMC General with an 8V92,435. STRONG AF!!
LOVE that soundtrack!
Brings back memories of the LW900 wrecker I used to drive ,8v92 with a 13 and an "A" box
The sound of victory.
A classic sound you don't hear too much now days. I like how you wrapped the stick, hahaha, yah anything to quiet it down a bit. Thanx for posting.
The more noise you have the faster you go which is what Detroit demands. They don’t like to pushy foot around. Give them the beans and you’ll get somewhere. Imagine it’s a chainsaw.
I remember when the old Greyhound Coachline buses here in Australia used to run these . As a kid I used to love travelling on them
Nothing like a good old dirty D hard at work. Love some Detroit diesels
So many memories. Thanks for the video.
man that truck sounds beautiful
The sound of that motor is music to my ears!
Just pure magic sound.......I'm a beemer man but those two-stroke USA diesels are THE best sounding truck engines ever!
Don’t know what yr this 900 is but brings back memories of many hours looking over that hood! Same dash as well . I had 2000 w900 w Detroit 60 series. I never knew about 2stroke big diesel motors till few yrs ago and I’m 45! Absolutely love it ! Great video Thanks
This was the engine that got me hooked on trucking as a kid, except it was in a double wide K100 with an Allison automatic behind it. It was used to pull tankers out of Joliet. The sound takes me back to a happier time. Too bad they can't make these two strokers run cleaner, I'd run one in a heartbeat with a DDEC doing the controlling.
I’d go mechanical personally
Sure appreciate you keeping them up and posting them.
Love the sound of old Detroit
Got a N14 Redtop in a FL Classic ( she's a 99 ), haul steel grossing 80-90k all the time. Just shifting at 1500 to 1650 is all that's needed to get down the road and still do high 5's to low 6's loaded. Awesome engine. The truck that corrupted me though was a KW K100 doublewide with a 435hp 8V-92 and an Allison auto. It was a showtruck back in the early 80s and pulled tankers in Joliet. I was no good after that.
Nice gear changing with the nice sound of a detroit!!! Tnxs for posting this.
The old two cycles put the power to the fly wheel they just didn't put it to the ground.But that beautiful sound never gets old.
Love it! thanks for the beautiful sounds... takes me back to my childhood.
That sounds like the engine kiss used for the "Detroit Rock City" intro on the 1976 album "Destroyer". Best sound of an engine ever!!!
The only sound that could be better than the V8 Detroit would be a V12 Detroit.
Now that is music to your ears OH YAAAA Pulling two 20 containers in a train
with 40,000 payload in each one!! been there done that.
this is the greatest sound .i had one 4 years and dawm it was fun.screaming detroit i miss them
When I drove for Schneider they tried 4 Series 60 Detroit's. I could set the cruise on 55 and climb the Rockies in the left lane passing everybody! Should have saw the weird looks I would get!
500 Series 60 was a good hard pulling engine. Also had a strange ghostlike moan (harmonic resonance) thru' stacks that could be spooky after dark.
That reverse shift patten we called that a turnaround in the old days they were sweet..HP126.
Yessir this man and rig are the real deal, you better have that cat tuned up hot and be ready for a challenge working around him..
It’s Detroit
I always loved that sound
If this isn't the best sounding truck on youtube, I'd love to see what is! You can just feel the power bristling from under the hood.
Thanks for not getting 28 gears and running it up to 3400 this was a nice ride
When it comes to big rigs in Newfoundland, I've never seen any of them powered by two-stroke Detroit Diesels like this one lately.
One of the best Detroit 8V92 music run...
The best diesel sound machine ever of all times
There is no more beautiful sound to me than the 92. Even though they're essentially worthless, even the jakes sounded good. Too bad the Californians made them obsolete. Kalifornication.
'92's sound good at any rpm.
worthless? These are very saught after since those are exempt from emissions.
Everybody thinks they are hill gutless and too much shifting but you would get that mentality being spoiled with diesel engines designed for low end torque. The 2 stroke detroit came from a time period when a lot of shifting was normal due to narrow powerbands and low power output. "Not just a different time, it was a different world"
smooth as butter on the shifting. and that lovely sound!!!!
Damn that sounds awesome last time I heard a 8V-92 was in a Koehring 866E back in 2001.
Beautiful music... Detroits forever!!!!
Been awhile since I heard the 8v92 music, been 4 years since I drove a truck with a 8v92.
Thata boy now thats the way you do it folks smooooooth
Drove v8 DD once - smiling all the way.
I love it "3k shift point". I had an 88 W 900B same shift pattern, though it had a kitty cat.
Keep up to great work on the videos
If it was a Western Star you'd have yourself the truck from Maximum Overdrive!
Lord Have Mercy that's sounds sweet ..
Glad too see an old jimmy still pulling.
I also have a 8V92TA in a W925, as the factory setting is 435HP@2100RPM, I would like to obtain a long life from my engine, so it will remain at 2100RPM, but it is a great engine!
Stewart and Stevenson made marine 8/92 T/I's that went into most high end (Hatteras, Bertram, etc) sportfishing boats in the 42-50' range back in the day. They were rated at 735hp at 2350rpm. Depending on how you treated them they'd go anywhere from 2000 to 3500 hrs before rebuild.
Hello everyone.... just to let you know..... that if you think this 8V92 video sounds great (and, it does).... go search for ... 12V71 Kenworth pulling Satus Pass Part 1.... 17:54min. Just shy of 18 minutes of pure 12V71N Power.... and Mike is a Smooth driver & Owner/Operator.
I only wish he had set the camera just a little higher, so you could see that extended hood, out there... the way he had it, it's like looking out the windshield of a cab over.... cannot see the hood at all..... but, that Buzzin Dozen sounds Wonderful !!
My brother had an Internatiomal Eagle that had the backwards shift 9-speed. That was a fun truck to drive.
Sounds like a big block chevy stretching its legs. I always wanted to drive one of these old trucks
That is a great recording we run team here hauling cryogenic hydrogen and I use that as a wake up alarm for my for my partner.
I used to drive a Brockway with an 8v71 Detroit, 13 speed, 4.11 gears and 22" wheels. Governor was set at 2450 and the rack was set by a Detroit guru. It would run 86 mph unloaded or lightly loaded and it would hold about 2200 rpm in 13th gear with 80,000 lbs in flat ground.
All I can say is...(from a great film maker)....."I'm gonna scare the hell out of you". That and thats one smooth driver
Used to sleep to that sound as a kid
871T howling away all night right underneath me
Tnxs for this video!! I just love those detroit sound!!
Please make another video longer I'll watch the whole trip💯💯💯
love it ,I have a 85 Autocar with a ntc 600 cummins a rto14613 she is turnning 2500 with 355 rears on 24.5 tall rubber has big holset turbo ceramioc coated manifolds and turbohousing with enhancer and heat boot! All i can say is I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!