Also the reason Herman Goring is the ruler of MittleAfrika is because his father was colonial governor of German South West Africa. So he has connections, is a popular war hero, and is too extremist to be allowed in Germany proper. Therefore the powers that be decide to kick him off to Africa to be someone else's problem.
@@seamusfinnegan1164, I wouldn't say that Mittelafrika would be "bassically Germany takeing on the Beglian Congo model of colony", because if that was the case, then Mittelafrika would've collapsed long before Goering ever had a chance to become Vizekonig (Viceroy). The colony would more be like a very strange, African version of the Holy Roman Empire almost, where there's a central colonial government in Dar-es-Salaam, led by Goering, with various governors ruling smaller regions within, and then there would be hundreds, if not thousands, of various kingdoms, protectorates, and colonial provinces that answer in those governors in an almost feudal manner, whereby the Statthalters (Governors) give protection to all these different polities if they send men to become Askari within the colonial Shultztruppe (Security Forces), send taxes, and act as vassals to the colonial government. That's not even mentioning the Anglo-German Protectorates, which are a whole 'nother thing entirely. So this colony would definitely not run itself like the Belgian Congo, and Goering would actually be pretty sucky as a Viceroy. Which is why in the game he's usually either removed from power, or the whole system collapses in on itself.
I think an important bit missed in the video is that in every scenario Macarthur launches a coup first in what amounts to a scaled up and successful Business Plot combined with what Macarthur did in real life in breaking up the Bonus Army, which is what justifies every other faction in no longer recognizing the legitimacy of the government and starting a civil war in universe. It muddies the waters as to whether Macarthur's faction is "Kemalist style coup led by an apolitical military to get rid of political extremism" or more of a "1940s version of Pinochet's Junta."
"Apolitical" military that just so happens to violently fight for capitalist control over the majority socialist favouring population that votes for a socialist/authoritarian progressive candidate?
22:07 actually Herman Göring as the Leader of Mittelafrika isn’t that hard to think of, if you know that his father was the governor of German Southwestafrica (Namibia)
I played as the US (and continued as the US in the civil war), and the civil war was a very close affair. At one point I was down to seven divisions holding Washington DC. I came back to win the civil war after biding my time, (somehow) recruiting some more divisions, and hitting hard after the other factions began to ignore me and fight each other. It was pretty satisfying.
The massive clusterf**** of the 2nd ACW, depending on how the events play out in game is my favorite part of KR. The fact that Combined Syndicates of America (CSA) is in the north, and the American Union State (AUS) is in the south pure irony. Then throw in the Feds led by MacArthur, desperately trying to hold the country together by force, New England as a Canadian puppet, the West Coast declaring themselves as the true democratic government. Also Hawaii goes surfing.
I'm glad that this video has Huey Long in it, he's someone of whom I am interested in because of how he was. Do you think you could watch a video regarding Huey Long if you can?
Surprisingly, this would not be the first time a European monarch set up a colony/dominion as a new kingdom due to political unrest in Europe. Extra Credit did a series on the Empire of Brazil, which was established when the King of Portugal fled to Brazil during the Napoleonic Wars. I highly recommend watching that series.
A lot of the nations that he seems to gloss over, like Austria-Hungary and Ottomans, is because they have very different paths they can go down that differ between games. They kinda just exist at the start like he said.
You should watch Kaiserreichs official documentary series, which goes much more into depth about troop movements and how specifically Germany won the war
6:30: Yeah, so funny thing? The new lore rework for Germany actually adresses this. It's officially known as the *American* Flu in this timeline, it doesn't spread across the Atlantic as much and it's the major reason why the US can't enter teh war in 1918 despite Germany resuming unrestricted submarine warfare that year.
20:12 on the contrary, China is one of the most unified societies in human history, although it does sometimes collapse into warring camps, the Chinese Civil War of our own timeline being the most recent example
It is indeed one of the most unified society, as you can see in their civil wars: even though China falls apart often into cliques and warlord states, these states are almost always fighting for a unified China under their control, instead of a new independent state.
As fun as Kaiserreich is, I love playing Hearts of Iron IV in regular mode and bringing back the Kaiserreich with Empress Victoria. And then reviving the HRE.
I would love for you to look into the HOI4 mod "The New Order". Its one of the few gaming experiences about running a country that really shows you the perspectives of the average person who has to deal with whatever policy is passed. Whether its a mother having her newborn killed minutes after it was born for not being "Aryan" enough, but also having to name it for the sake of bureaucracy, a family calculating and distributing the limited amount of calories rationed to them due to being based in the Arctic Circle and bombed by German planes every day, or a Chinese intellectual who is forced to work with Japanese people who claim to be your best friends while also thinking they're racially superior to you. Its a wonderful mod with some of the best writing in the HOI4 community and I love how it constantly forces you to see the negative impacts your choices make.
17:10 It was during the Civil War that MacArthur is said to have picked up a Wisconsin flag during a battle and exclaim “On, Wisconsin!” on the charge - that phrase, becoming the official state song.
There is a video concerning "The New Order" lore by Sparks 360. Maybe you could check it out? Being my favorite hoi4 mod, I would really like to see you react to it.
0:55 Indeed, Pope Julius II (1503-1513, Treaty of Tordesillas, patron of Michaelangelo and Raphael) took his name not from Julius I the Pope but Julius the Caesar.
I've been thinking about exploring some alternate history lately. Any recommendations to help me get started? Also, looking forward to hearing the new announcement. Seems like you're having a lot of well-deserved success lately.
Fictionally going, there is Philip K Dick's Man In The High Castle, if you want to go at it in a picture that has brevity and doesn't go on and on, unneeded, as some of this fiction can go, so I'll personally recommend you that.
Depends on what you're looking for, books, movies, anime, or video games? If you want to read an alternate history book then Harry Turtledove is the guy to read. His works are the gold standard in alt his. Personally I just finished "The War That Came Early" and loved it, it's exactly what it says on the title WW2 starts in 1938 and it goes on from there.
@@svenrio8521 I'm actually interested in exploring some things myself, as in figuring out if alternative outcomes would have been possible and what would have allowed them. Kind of a way to get a deeper understanding of what led to real life events and understanding tube full situations.
Id recommend another HOI4 mod, "The New Order: Last Days of Europe", where the Axis Powers managed to win WWII. The lore is great, and even its "villain" faction, The SS State of Burgundy alone has its own unique and extremely dark story.
Kaiserreich is by far the best alt-history scenario in my opinion, but there's others that are pretty good too. Thousand-Week Reich is a good one, basically a scenario where no one wins WW2, completely at least, Fuhrerreich, Red Flood, and Long Live the Tsar are just... hilarious to play. The New Order is definitely a pretty good too.
Amazing video, personally I really like the idea of Kaiserreich even if I am not the biggest fan of recent retcons. If you would be interested in more videos related to this particular Alt history, KaiserCatCinema is making an animated series called Divided States which is set in the Second Civil War US and is really cool.
0:53 The Papal State has continuously existed in Rome for millennia by now (with small discontinuities like the Roman Republic in 1849), and continues to do so to this day in the form of the Vatican City State.
@@VloggingThroughHistory I'm under the impression that the Papal States were never a distinct entity (in the same way one may say that the Byzantine Empire never was one either). Instead being simply the label we use to refer to those lands which were under the direct control of the Holy See during the period, and in that sense it seems sensible to me to consider the Vatican City to be the direct continuation of the Papal States. I may obviously be wrong though. Either way the main point of my nitpick was that there still is a state under direct control of the Pope: Vatican City. And that, arguably, there has always been one for more than a thousand years. Even during the whole 'Prisoner in the Vatican' ordeal after italian unification the Holy See never renounced sovereignty over the Vatican, that being the reason why Vatican City exists today.
Basically the one world I would describe this mod would be crazy. Whether it’s crazy in a good or bad way I’d leave up to everyone here. Hope you’ll watch more alternate history videos in the future (especially his iceberg videos). Something I’d like to bring up since it was glossed over was Mongolia in this scenario. Like Cody said it’s basically “Under the rule of a White Russian rogue officer turned warlord.” If you don’t already know I highly recommend looking up Roman von Ungern-Sternberg. Not only did this mod introduce others to this obscure madman but allowed this wacky scenario to play out which wouldn’t have been possible in our real world.
In my most recent playrhru, I played as the Combined Syndicates, and gotta say, it was a bad time when Canada decided to intervene after I knocked the American Union out. But when I captured King Edward it was a pretty good feeling. Damned northern aggression.
Hi, Chris, very interesting. If that had happened the world would have been a dangerous and unsettled place. Alternate history is always interesting though. I'm not sure about the second American civil war, I really can not imagine that.
I'm not so sure that there would have been socialist rebellions all around the world. But I'm pretty sure the Kaiserreich would have quenched the fascist movement from Italy to Germany that led to the rise of Hitler, his atrocities and the 2nd WW.
@@joeschmo4646, oh yeah, I can definitely see that going on in the US, and actually, what we see in-universe between the late-20's and mid-30's seems kinda like a (very) scaled-down version of what an American Years of Lead would look like. Just without far-right extremists getting into the mix yet.
You have a cold war style build up but with interwar and WW2 weapons and technology. Without the presence of Nukes to raise the stake, the Second great war will inevitably break out but with even greater scale.
Love Kaiserreich and the lore behind it, hey if you're still taking video ideas I suggest "How Medieval Kings would view our World" It's a great way to flex 💪 that English Monarchs knowledge of yours.
Fun little fact: Mannfred von Richthofen survives the war in the Kaiserreich Timeline and in 1936 is the chief of the german army air service. (Which remained part of the army instead of becoming its own service.)
Question out of left field, but I’ve been meaning to ask you since we’re not terribly far apart in age: as a kid, did you ever play the PC game Titanic: Adventure Out of Time?
Although the scenario isn’t the most realistic (I’m not a fan of how they handle the Russian civil war, Germany going back to Russia is illogical) The Syndicalist method and the use of Socialism as a militant movement is a very interesting parallel to the rise of Fascism in our timeline, albeit more violent. I always saw the UK in this mod acting as a What if scenario for if the Italian government resisted Mussolini’s March on Rome. Also in this mod FDR dies early in his life. It’s done as a butterfly effect to prevent the New deal and to let Long take the spotlight, because let’s be honest it would be boring to recreate the real life US 1930s. However personally I think it was a missed opportunity to not include him somehow, perhaps in a anti MacArthur coup. It would add more variety.
I think FDR is replaced as sort of the main leader of peaceful reform in the US by Floyd Olson, the leader of the Progressive Party who becomes the compromise presidential candidate in 1936 to prevent the rise of Long and Reed.
Hey, if you're interested in discussing alternate history, you should check out the lore of the "The New Order" mod for HOI 4. It covers German victory in WW2 instead of WW1 and is very in-depth like Kaiserreich, though it is a lot darker
What I find really sad is that the Kaiserreich often get so massively missportrait as a kind of "Nazi-Germany light" that has similar goals which IS NOT NEARLY the case. The Kaiserreich was 1914 the second biggest economy of the world and Berlin the fastest growing city in the world. Bismarck actually has built a system that would have bring Germany long term to the top but when he was away Wilhelm the second was to naiv and thought he could fasten this process with his overmighty military and get new colonies. That was Wilhelms main goal which he made pretty clear to the upper Reich government, to get colonies from Britain and France and make more money to get Germany on the top of the world and not by conquering new land in Europe.(and of course his ego played a big role because even if he was out of office for nearly 20 years at this point, Bismarck was still seen as father of the nation and was much more popular then Wilhelm the first , so Wilhelm II wanted to to show he was better then Bismarck by dismantle his plan and do it by his own way which of course failed)
I disagree with something you said here. China absolutely has been a world power, and has absolutely been united under a single government. Its a theme of asian history that china keeps unifying and breaking and unifying and breaking, and when it unifies it dominates the region. There have been many centuries of chinese domination, and these effects have been felt across the area.
China has unquestionably been the most powerful nation throughout history, only really falling behind briefly as European imperialism propelled Europe and later the US to be the world powers. But geography will always ultimately determine these things, and China is right back to being a superpower, projected to be the world superpower again within 100 years.
I wish there was a good video going over the lore of Red Flood(I've only found one and it's pretty vague). Think Kiserreich but the extremists are even more extreme.
Would you be willing to go through the new Kings and Generals series on the Pacific War? It's still ongoing, but Considine the rate, we know pretty much how long it'll take, seeing as they're going through the war week by week.
My dad is at the tail end of the baby boomers and I love these videos of yours also there is a influenza outbreak It takes the life of the Kaisers wife
Yeah, is there anyone else notable who gets killed by the flu here? The only other notable person I've heard of who dies of flu in Kaiserreich is Mohammad Abdullah Hassan or "The Mad Mullah", the leader of an independent Somalia.
Bonne Saint-Jean-Baptiste à tous mes confrères Québécois. Happy Saint-Jean-Baptiste to all my fellow Québécois. June 24th is Québec's national holiday.
Actually, the Qing in the 18th and early 19th century was an economic powerhouse that exerted tremendous control over their neighbors. Even the Ming dynasty before the industrial revolution was probably the most powerful nation in the world militarily, economicly, and diplomaticly. Today's china being those things is nothing new, (except for industrialization) its just another stage in the cycle.
Hey man, keep up the great work. Also, you should check out Monsieur Z’s 7 Ages of America Series and his “Wilson did nothing wrong” video. He’s not a Wilson Shill, it’s more of a critique/analysis of the Early Progressives of the early 20th Century.
While i disagree with the politics of TIKhistory he has a fairly good catalogue of WW2 Topics he covers. if you are looking for a WW2 channel he focuses more on the economics of the war.
Please react to the original documentary vid (it’s not long) from the mod makers channel called Kaisercat cinema. They have documentaries on the mod about the lore way more in detail than this vid.
A few corrections: 1. I'm sure that the capital of the Italian Republic in Kaiserreich is Milan, not Venice. In-game, there is an event where Venice can declare independence, and the Italian Republic will fight to retake it. 2. Chinese unification did not only occur in the 20th century (and technically, China is still divided). China has, for most of its history, been one of the most unified nations on earth, and is a self-reconstructing state. The concept of the Chinese state is embodied in the Mandate of Heaven, which can be gained by unifying China under one's rule. As such, every Chinese warlord's aim, especially ever since the Song Dynasty which greatly centralised the nation, was not to carve out independent domains for oneself, but to instead unify China and claim the Mandate. Similarly, barbarians who invade and fully subjugate China seek to unify China, become Chinese, and claim the Mandate. This is demonstrated in that during the past millennium, China was united for 800 of those years. "China's whole again, then it broke again" is really a myth, or at least greatly exaggerated.
I mean, it isn't really a myth, when you're a country as old as China, its inevitable that no matter how stable it was, it broke up significantly more than most if not all modern nation states
I've always taken the "China's whole again, then it broke again" phrase as a reference to China's dynasty cycle more than anything else (iirc China changes their ruling dynasty every 300 years or so, on average). That China is a self-reconstructing state is even implied by the "China's whole again" part.
I like what you said about the flu pandemic, it’s called the Spanish flu but it almost certainly did not originate there Spain was the only power not too preoccupied with the war to addressing the pandemic
I'm not sure I agree with your comments about China. It has almost always been a big homogenous country and for most of its history, it has been the preeminent country on earth. Consider how all of its neighbors would copy Chinese culture in order to trade with them or how for centuries, Europeans went to great lengths to reach China so that they could trade with them. Indeed, China's lack of development economically or militarily only became apparent during the first opium war when Britan's industrialized army trounce the Chinese. Before that, China was so huge, that it didn't need to be industrialized to compete economically with a more industrialized nation. Well, that's a very short take on why I disagree with your statement that China wasn't a united polity or wasn't a major power before the communist took over. I could go on, but this is a pretty big topic. Anyway, great video! Love your work.
Depending on how you define what constitutes China, it still isn’t united politically. The Communists don’t control all the lands that the Qing did, and the Qing didn’t control everything that Yuan did. What exactly is considered the Chinese people and Chinese land has changed tremendously over the last 2000 years as the borders of Chinese states have waxed and waned. I believe the government of Taiwan still claims the country of Mongolia as its rightful territory, since it inherited the claims of the Qing. And I’m not sure I would call it the preeminent country on Earth for most of its history. It has existed alongside Rome, the Ottomans, and the many European colonial empires. I would rate all of those as being more influential on the world stage than whatever dynasty was in power in China at the times that they coexisted.
@@DovahFett Calling China "not unified" because it isn't at its maximum historical extent is a bit ridiculous. By that metric almost no countries are unified. It's more about the core territory of a nation, which I would label for China as just north of Beijing, down to Yunnan, and left to Tibet. Regions outside of here are more outskirts that aren't as important when talking about whether China is "unified" or not. I would also argue claiming other nations as more influential is kind of biased. Each of these were extremely influential in their respective regions, with very little overlap. I would personally argue that the amount of time that China has spent being the undisputed military, economic and political number 1 in history constitutes it being labelled the most influential. It's really only the last 200 years where it briefly fell behind Europe/USA, compared to many thousands of years where it has been far ahead of other regions.
I would definitely argue against your statement that China had never really been a united nation until the 20th century. The Qing empire had been one of the longest ruling dynasties, and has been relatively stable until Europeans came and meddled with trade, opium and Christianity, leading to many rebellions
China proper (excluding later acquisition of the south) has pretty much been unified for at least half of the time since the Qin. Sure you have the equivalent of local barons and dukes like the Romans had governors but the various states have always fought civil wars to reunite like Augustus with Rome instead of say the mongols to khwarezm. even then, china has always been more unified on a cultural basis than Rome as a Gaul would be vastly different from an Egyptian or Hellenic person.
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Also the reason Herman Goring is the ruler of MittleAfrika is because his father was colonial governor of German South West Africa. So he has connections, is a popular war hero, and is too extremist to be allowed in Germany proper.
Therefore the powers that be decide to kick him off to Africa to be someone else's problem.
poor Africans
Plus Mittelafrika is bassically Germany takeing on the Beglian Congo model of colony which Goring would be a perfect scrupeless manager for.
@@seamusfinnegan1164, I wouldn't say that Mittelafrika would be "bassically Germany takeing on the Beglian Congo model of colony", because if that was the case, then Mittelafrika would've collapsed long before Goering ever had a chance to become Vizekonig (Viceroy). The colony would more be like a very strange, African version of the Holy Roman Empire almost, where there's a central colonial government in Dar-es-Salaam, led by Goering, with various governors ruling smaller regions within, and then there would be hundreds, if not thousands, of various kingdoms, protectorates, and colonial provinces that answer in those governors in an almost feudal manner, whereby the Statthalters (Governors) give protection to all these different polities if they send men to become Askari within the colonial Shultztruppe (Security Forces), send taxes, and act as vassals to the colonial government. That's not even mentioning the Anglo-German Protectorates, which are a whole 'nother thing entirely. So this colony would definitely not run itself like the Belgian Congo, and Goering would actually be pretty sucky as a Viceroy. Which is why in the game he's usually either removed from power, or the whole system collapses in on itself.
Whenever I get a chance in each of my Kaiserreich play through snow matter what side I am playing I always get rid of goering
I think an important bit missed in the video is that in every scenario Macarthur launches a coup first in what amounts to a scaled up and successful Business Plot combined with what Macarthur did in real life in breaking up the Bonus Army, which is what justifies every other faction in no longer recognizing the legitimacy of the government and starting a civil war in universe. It muddies the waters as to whether Macarthur's faction is "Kemalist style coup led by an apolitical military to get rid of political extremism" or more of a "1940s version of Pinochet's Junta."
Por que no los dos?
Yeah. It is important to understand that not only McArthur had mean to do it, he is very likely have the will to do it.
Indeed
"Apolitical" military that just so happens to violently fight for capitalist control over the majority socialist favouring population that votes for a socialist/authoritarian progressive candidate?
22:07 actually Herman Göring as the Leader of Mittelafrika isn’t that hard to think of, if you know that his father was the governor of German Southwestafrica (Namibia)
I played as the US (and continued as the US in the civil war), and the civil war was a very close affair. At one point I was down to seven divisions holding Washington DC.
I came back to win the civil war after biding my time, (somehow) recruiting some more divisions, and hitting hard after the other factions began to ignore me and fight each other. It was pretty satisfying.
Nice!
The Feds are always in the worst position. The Union State may lack industry but they are at least cohesive
The massive clusterf**** of the 2nd ACW, depending on how the events play out in game is my favorite part of KR. The fact that Combined Syndicates of America (CSA) is in the north, and the American Union State (AUS) is in the south pure irony. Then throw in the Feds led by MacArthur, desperately trying to hold the country together by force, New England as a Canadian puppet, the West Coast declaring themselves as the true democratic government. Also Hawaii goes surfing.
Love these videos about Kaiserreich! What if scenarios really help put actual perspective to real history, imo
I'm glad that this video has Huey Long in it, he's someone of whom I am interested in because of how he was. Do you think you could watch a video regarding Huey Long if you can?
I also would be interested in that.
Some aren't so happy of the constant sight of He.
EmperorTigerstar has a pretty good video and Monsieur Z has an interesting What if on Huey Long.
@@AmericanImperium1776 Kingpin, Whatcha yewself out!
Pelley’s the better leader in the Union State.
I like this mod. Among others. (like kaiserredux, thousand weeks reich, modern day and so on). As always, excellent video. Greetings from Hungary
Surprisingly, this would not be the first time a European monarch set up a colony/dominion as a new kingdom due to political unrest in Europe. Extra Credit did a series on the Empire of Brazil, which was established when the King of Portugal fled to Brazil during the Napoleonic Wars. I highly recommend watching that series.
A lot of the nations that he seems to gloss over, like Austria-Hungary and Ottomans, is because they have very different paths they can go down that differ between games. They kinda just exist at the start like he said.
You should watch Kaiserreichs official documentary series, which goes much more into depth about troop movements and how specifically Germany won the war
6:30: Yeah, so funny thing? The new lore rework for Germany actually adresses this. It's officially known as the *American* Flu in this timeline, it doesn't spread across the Atlantic as much and it's the major reason why the US can't enter teh war in 1918 despite Germany resuming unrestricted submarine warfare that year.
20:12 on the contrary, China is one of the most unified societies in human history, although it does sometimes collapse into warring camps, the Chinese Civil War of our own timeline being the most recent example
very true. There are very few times in the last 1000 years that the Han Chinese heartland is not unified under one government.
It is indeed one of the most unified society, as you can see in their civil wars: even though China falls apart often into cliques and warlord states, these states are almost always fighting for a unified China under their control, instead of a new independent state.
Yeah, that statement baffled me a bit.
Maybe could recommend him to watch a video about Chinese history?
As fun as Kaiserreich is, I love playing Hearts of Iron IV in regular mode and bringing back the Kaiserreich with Empress Victoria. And then reviving the HRE.
Deffo might need a reaction to Kaiser Cat Cinema's lore stuff! That'd be great!
In the Election of 1932 in Kaiserreich, Hoover got a majority of state delegations in the house.
I would love for you to look into the HOI4 mod "The New Order". Its one of the few gaming experiences about running a country that really shows you the perspectives of the average person who has to deal with whatever policy is passed. Whether its a mother having her newborn killed minutes after it was born for not being "Aryan" enough, but also having to name it for the sake of bureaucracy, a family calculating and distributing the limited amount of calories rationed to them due to being based in the Arctic Circle and bombed by German planes every day, or a Chinese intellectual who is forced to work with Japanese people who claim to be your best friends while also thinking they're racially superior to you. Its a wonderful mod with some of the best writing in the HOI4 community and I love how it constantly forces you to see the negative impacts your choices make.
17:10 It was during the Civil War that MacArthur is said to have picked up a Wisconsin flag during a battle and exclaim “On, Wisconsin!” on the charge - that phrase, becoming the official state song.
There is a video concerning "The New Order" lore by Sparks 360. Maybe you could check it out?
Being my favorite hoi4 mod, I would really like to see you react to it.
The New Order lore next?
0:55 Indeed, Pope Julius II (1503-1513, Treaty of Tordesillas, patron of Michaelangelo and Raphael) took his name not from Julius I the Pope but Julius the Caesar.
I've been thinking about exploring some alternate history lately. Any recommendations to help me get started?
Also, looking forward to hearing the new announcement. Seems like you're having a lot of well-deserved success lately.
Fictionally going, there is Philip K Dick's Man In The High Castle, if you want to go at it in a picture that has brevity and doesn't go on and on, unneeded, as some of this fiction can go, so I'll personally recommend you that.
Depends on what you're looking for, books, movies, anime, or video games?
If you want to read an alternate history book then Harry Turtledove is the guy to read. His works are the gold standard in alt his. Personally I just finished "The War That Came Early" and loved it, it's exactly what it says on the title WW2 starts in 1938 and it goes on from there.
@@svenrio8521 I'm actually interested in exploring some things myself, as in figuring out if alternative outcomes would have been possible and what would have allowed them. Kind of a way to get a deeper understanding of what led to real life events and understanding tube full situations.
Id recommend another HOI4 mod, "The New Order: Last Days of Europe", where the Axis Powers managed to win WWII. The lore is great, and even its "villain" faction, The SS State of Burgundy alone has its own unique and extremely dark story.
Kaiserreich is by far the best alt-history scenario in my opinion, but there's others that are pretty good too. Thousand-Week Reich is a good one, basically a scenario where no one wins WW2, completely at least, Fuhrerreich, Red Flood, and Long Live the Tsar are just... hilarious to play. The New Order is definitely a pretty good too.
Amazing video, personally I really like the idea of Kaiserreich even if I am not the biggest fan of recent retcons.
If you would be interested in more videos related to this particular Alt history, KaiserCatCinema is making an animated series called Divided States which is set in the Second Civil War US and is really cool.
0:53 The Papal State has continuously existed in Rome for millennia by now (with small discontinuities like the Roman Republic in 1849), and continues to do so to this day in the form of the Vatican City State.
The Papal States are considered to be a distinct entity not the same as the modern Vatican. 756-1870.
@@VloggingThroughHistory I'm under the impression that the Papal States were never a distinct entity (in the same way one may say that the Byzantine Empire never was one either). Instead being simply the label we use to refer to those lands which were under the direct control of the Holy See during the period, and in that sense it seems sensible to me to consider the Vatican City to be the direct continuation of the Papal States. I may obviously be wrong though.
Either way the main point of my nitpick was that there still is a state under direct control of the Pope: Vatican City. And that, arguably, there has always been one for more than a thousand years. Even during the whole 'Prisoner in the Vatican' ordeal after italian unification the Holy See never renounced sovereignty over the Vatican, that being the reason why Vatican City exists today.
Basically the one world I would describe this mod would be crazy. Whether it’s crazy in a good or bad way I’d leave up to everyone here. Hope you’ll watch more alternate history videos in the future (especially his iceberg videos).
Something I’d like to bring up since it was glossed over was Mongolia in this scenario. Like Cody said it’s basically “Under the rule of a White Russian rogue officer turned warlord.” If you don’t already know I highly recommend looking up Roman von Ungern-Sternberg. Not only did this mod introduce others to this obscure madman but allowed this wacky scenario to play out which wouldn’t have been possible in our real world.
The Mad Baron certainly is an interesting figure.
If you think this mod is crazy you should check out Red Flood
@@viracocha6093 I know Red Flood.
For the european jews it would have been crazy good.
The Kaisercat Cinema videos for the Kaiserreich world are quite entertaining and flesh out the world a bit more.
In my most recent playrhru, I played as the Combined Syndicates, and gotta say, it was a bad time when Canada decided to intervene after I knocked the American Union out.
But when I captured King Edward it was a pretty good feeling. Damned northern aggression.
Hi, Chris, very interesting. If that had happened the world would have been a dangerous and unsettled place. Alternate history is always interesting though. I'm not sure about the second American civil war, I really can not imagine that.
I'm not so sure that there would have been socialist rebellions all around the world.
But I'm pretty sure the Kaiserreich would have quenched the fascist movement from Italy to Germany that led to the rise of Hitler, his atrocities and the 2nd WW.
Yeah maybe not a full scale civil war but I can see something like the Years of Lead in Italy happening in the US.
@@joeschmo4646, oh yeah, I can definitely see that going on in the US, and actually, what we see in-universe between the late-20's and mid-30's seems kinda like a (very) scaled-down version of what an American Years of Lead would look like. Just without far-right extremists getting into the mix yet.
You have a cold war style build up but with interwar and WW2 weapons and technology. Without the presence of Nukes to raise the stake, the Second great war will inevitably break out but with even greater scale.
@@minhducnguyen9276, how do you figure?
Love Kaiserreich and the lore behind it, hey if you're still taking video ideas I suggest "How Medieval Kings would view our World"
It's a great way to flex 💪 that English Monarchs knowledge of yours.
The cool thing about Mittelafrika is that there is a chance that Ernst Jünger can take over.
Fun little fact: Mannfred von Richthofen survives the war in the Kaiserreich Timeline and in 1936 is the chief of the german army air service. (Which remained part of the army instead of becoming its own service.)
Nice
How do you know have you watched it yet
@@Nate-sc9yz Nice
@@crispyrock1906 Nice
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Question out of left field, but I’ve been meaning to ask you since we’re not terribly far apart in age: as a kid, did you ever play the PC game Titanic: Adventure Out of Time?
Although the scenario isn’t the most realistic (I’m not a fan of how they handle the Russian civil war, Germany going back to Russia is illogical) The Syndicalist method and the use of Socialism as a militant movement is a very interesting parallel to the rise of Fascism in our timeline, albeit more violent. I always saw the UK in this mod acting as a What if scenario for if the Italian government resisted Mussolini’s March on Rome.
Also in this mod FDR dies early in his life. It’s done as a butterfly effect to prevent the New deal and to let Long take the spotlight, because let’s be honest it would be boring to recreate the real life US 1930s. However personally I think it was a missed opportunity to not include him somehow, perhaps in a anti MacArthur coup. It would add more variety.
I think FDR is replaced as sort of the main leader of peaceful reform in the US by Floyd Olson, the leader of the Progressive Party who becomes the compromise presidential candidate in 1936 to prevent the rise of Long and Reed.
Hey, if you're interested in discussing alternate history, you should check out the lore of the "The New Order" mod for HOI 4. It covers German victory in WW2 instead of WW1 and is very in-depth like Kaiserreich, though it is a lot darker
I was anticipating this video way too eagerly for some reason, glad to see it's "finally" out.
What I find really sad is that the Kaiserreich often get so massively missportrait as a kind of "Nazi-Germany light" that has similar goals which IS NOT NEARLY the case. The Kaiserreich was 1914 the second biggest economy of the world and Berlin the fastest growing city in the world. Bismarck actually has built a system that would have bring Germany long term to the top but when he was away Wilhelm the second was to naiv and thought he could fasten this process with his overmighty military and get new colonies. That was Wilhelms main goal which he made pretty clear to the upper Reich government, to get colonies from Britain and France and make more money to get Germany on the top of the world and not by conquering new land in Europe.(and of course his ego played a big role because even if he was out of office for nearly 20 years at this point, Bismarck was still seen as father of the nation and was much more popular then Wilhelm the first , so Wilhelm II wanted to to show he was better then Bismarck by dismantle his plan and do it by his own way which of course failed)
Yeah, Kaiserreich is basically Wilhelm ll's wet dream.
Like wilhelm isn’t one of the best rulers ever
2:48 thank you without some industrialization the revolution wouldn't have been possible.
I disagree with something you said here.
China absolutely has been a world power, and has absolutely been united under a single government. Its a theme of asian history that china keeps unifying and breaking and unifying and breaking, and when it unifies it dominates the region. There have been many centuries of chinese domination, and these effects have been felt across the area.
China has unquestionably been the most powerful nation throughout history, only really falling behind briefly as European imperialism propelled Europe and later the US to be the world powers. But geography will always ultimately determine these things, and China is right back to being a superpower, projected to be the world superpower again within 100 years.
Every man a king, baby!
I wish there was a good video going over the lore of Red Flood(I've only found one and it's pretty vague). Think Kiserreich but the extremists are even more extreme.
red flood is very interesting too as well as TNO, you should check them out too
Wasnt Wilson from New jersey?
He moved there in his adult life yes. But he was born in Virginia and grew up in Georgia.
if you enjoy alternate history, I recommend watching this same creators video on the fallout series!
Would you be willing to go through the new Kings and Generals series on the Pacific War? It's still ongoing, but Considine the rate, we know pretty much how long it'll take, seeing as they're going through the war week by week.
Long live America. long live the south. long live the Huey Long.
Every man a king!
What makes the south more special than the rest of america?
The Free State of the Congo; Now that is a cruel joke x.x
PSA forever. *FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA!*
You shaved Chris!
In this timeline, the Red Baron didn't die in the war. By 1936, he's an option to lead Germany's air force
My dad is at the tail end of the baby boomers and I love these videos of yours also there is a influenza outbreak It takes the life of the Kaisers wife
Yeah, is there anyone else notable who gets killed by the flu here? The only other notable person I've heard of who dies of flu in Kaiserreich is Mohammad Abdullah Hassan or "The Mad Mullah", the leader of an independent Somalia.
@@occam7382 I’d have to check but I don’t think so
Huey Long superiority!
Can you please check out Kaiser Cat Cinema's mini series about the world of Kaiserreich?
"Even across the pacific"
The Feds have the weakest position and almost always lose unless the player does something to keep them from losing.
Please watch more videos on Huey Long here, thanks!
Agreed
Bonne Saint-Jean-Baptiste à tous mes confrères Québécois. Happy Saint-Jean-Baptiste to all my fellow Québécois. June 24th is Québec's national holiday.
You should check out kraut and history with Herbert
As much as I enjoy KR I became more of a fan of Kaiserredux, with more paths in America being one of the reason
Can you do a playthrough with the US?
Actually, the Qing in the 18th and early 19th century was an economic powerhouse that exerted tremendous control over their neighbors. Even the Ming dynasty before the industrial revolution was probably the most powerful nation in the world militarily, economicly, and diplomaticly. Today's china being those things is nothing new, (except for industrialization) its just another stage in the cycle.
Hey man, keep up the great work. Also, you should check out Monsieur Z’s 7 Ages of America Series and his “Wilson did nothing wrong” video. He’s not a Wilson Shill, it’s more of a critique/analysis of the Early Progressives of the early 20th Century.
China is a lot of fun to play in Kaiserreich
While i disagree with the politics of TIKhistory he has a fairly good catalogue of WW2 Topics he covers. if you are looking for a WW2 channel he focuses more on the economics of the war.
You should watch his video if aliens invaded during ww2.
Please react to the original documentary vid (it’s not long) from the mod makers channel called Kaisercat cinema. They have documentaries on the mod about the lore way more in detail than this vid.
What role would Mussolini have had?
Well, in this timeline, he's a major political leader in the Socialist Republic of Italy, for obvious reasons.
Nazbol
@@ohwell6422, what?
@@occam7382 I mean that is what most totalists are in the kr universe
@@ohwell6422, oh. Yeah, pretty much.
what about Ireland
You should try hearts of iron 4 equastria at was too
Not trying to start anything, but, what's happening with the Native Americans and slaves, African Americans in this scenario???
pls react thousand week reich alt history
Noon the stache
React to “Twelve Insane Wars You’ve Never Heard Of” by Whatifalthist
Finland 😀
The Kaiserreich Team has it’s own channel, Kaiser Cat Cinema, with plenty of alternate history content. I highly recommend it.
vth if you havent you should really see hitler circle of evil
A random question: would Germany have invaded Spain in if the Republicans won the civil war against Franco?
Eh, I'd say it's 50/50. Really depends on whether or not Hitler thinks getting Gibraltar is worth starting his own Peninsular War.
Well hitler wanted to take over the world so of course yea
A few corrections:
1. I'm sure that the capital of the Italian Republic in Kaiserreich is Milan, not Venice. In-game, there is an event where Venice can declare independence, and the Italian Republic will fight to retake it.
2. Chinese unification did not only occur in the 20th century (and technically, China is still divided). China has, for most of its history, been one of the most unified nations on earth, and is a self-reconstructing state. The concept of the Chinese state is embodied in the Mandate of Heaven, which can be gained by unifying China under one's rule. As such, every Chinese warlord's aim, especially ever since the Song Dynasty which greatly centralised the nation, was not to carve out independent domains for oneself, but to instead unify China and claim the Mandate. Similarly, barbarians who invade and fully subjugate China seek to unify China, become Chinese, and claim the Mandate. This is demonstrated in that during the past millennium, China was united for 800 of those years. "China's whole again, then it broke again" is really a myth, or at least greatly exaggerated.
I mean, it isn't really a myth, when you're a country as old as China, its inevitable that no matter how stable it was, it broke up significantly more than most if not all modern nation states
I've always taken the "China's whole again, then it broke again" phrase as a reference to China's dynasty cycle more than anything else (iirc China changes their ruling dynasty every 300 years or so, on average). That China is a self-reconstructing state is even implied by the "China's whole again" part.
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Interesting
I like what you said about the flu pandemic, it’s called the Spanish flu but it almost certainly did not originate there Spain was the only power not too preoccupied with the war to addressing the pandemic
Wow didn't know aboyt this mid
Can you react to monsieur z videos
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I'm not sure I agree with your comments about China. It has almost always been a big homogenous country and for most of its history, it has been the preeminent country on earth. Consider how all of its neighbors would copy Chinese culture in order to trade with them or how for centuries, Europeans went to great lengths to reach China so that they could trade with them. Indeed, China's lack of development economically or militarily only became apparent during the first opium war when Britan's industrialized army trounce the Chinese. Before that, China was so huge, that it didn't need to be industrialized to compete economically with a more industrialized nation.
Well, that's a very short take on why I disagree with your statement that China wasn't a united polity or wasn't a major power before the communist took over. I could go on, but this is a pretty big topic.
Anyway, great video! Love your work.
Depending on how you define what constitutes China, it still isn’t united politically. The Communists don’t control all the lands that the Qing did, and the Qing didn’t control everything that Yuan did. What exactly is considered the Chinese people and Chinese land has changed tremendously over the last 2000 years as the borders of Chinese states have waxed and waned. I believe the government of Taiwan still claims the country of Mongolia as its rightful territory, since it inherited the claims of the Qing.
And I’m not sure I would call it the preeminent country on Earth for most of its history. It has existed alongside Rome, the Ottomans, and the many European colonial empires. I would rate all of those as being more influential on the world stage than whatever dynasty was in power in China at the times that they coexisted.
@@DovahFett Calling China "not unified" because it isn't at its maximum historical extent is a bit ridiculous. By that metric almost no countries are unified. It's more about the core territory of a nation, which I would label for China as just north of Beijing, down to Yunnan, and left to Tibet. Regions outside of here are more outskirts that aren't as important when talking about whether China is "unified" or not.
I would also argue claiming other nations as more influential is kind of biased. Each of these were extremely influential in their respective regions, with very little overlap. I would personally argue that the amount of time that China has spent being the undisputed military, economic and political number 1 in history constitutes it being labelled the most influential. It's really only the last 200 years where it briefly fell behind Europe/USA, compared to many thousands of years where it has been far ahead of other regions.
personaly i like kaiserredux more
Especially the Second American Civil War and you can also prevent now. Which the og mod unfortunately removed and made the civil war inevitable
@@AmericanImperium1776 Not to mention all the hats they removed. 😢
@@svenrio8521 True. RIP
What Bernie should've done in 2020 after the Dems screwed him.
I would definitely argue against your statement that China had never really been a united nation until the 20th century. The Qing empire had been one of the longest ruling dynasties, and has been relatively stable until Europeans came and meddled with trade, opium and Christianity, leading to many rebellions
China proper (excluding later acquisition of the south) has pretty much been unified for at least half of the time since the Qin. Sure you have the equivalent of local barons and dukes like the Romans had governors but the various states have always fought civil wars to reunite like Augustus with Rome instead of say the mongols to khwarezm. even then, china has always been more unified on a cultural basis than Rome as a Gaul would be vastly different from an Egyptian or Hellenic person.