Flayed Ones are an Existential NIGHTMARE
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Live long enough and you'll go "full Eldar",
never go "full Eldar"
Necrons were there being cucked before they started atomizing everything.
I love how Trayzn’s immune to the curse since his purpose is essentially impossible. To chart and record all of history make the greatest museum. History will out live all sentient things and there’s also the history of the past undocumented he still needs to document. The solution to immortality is to never be able to complete your dreams which is sad I love it.
it's about the journey...
*THE GREAT JOURNEY AWAITS*
@@doomfan8603 *Halo theme plays*
To be fair, it is entirely possible to also be fully aware of this fact and be content with it.
@@simtexa fair the whole one must imagine Sisyphus happy thing
And Trayzin does seem to be happy (by Necron standards) at the very least he seems to enjoy himself the most and have a generally optimistic approach to situations. He has fun and that's very weird for a Necron.
A cool bit of lore is that there is a Chaos Knight who absolutely loves to tear its victims apart and to display the mangled corpses from its armour, to the point its pretty much just covered in gore, skin and meat almost constantly. Interestingly, this has caused a group of Flayed Ones to constantly follow it around the battlefield as the Knight continues to butcher and slaughter, seeming to not notice the group of murder robots it has gathered who follow in its wake like its an avatar of the flayer virus.
Oh thats cool, whats the name of the chaos knight? Or a place to read more about it ?
Twice Drad King: Ruin has it in the story. Funnily enough, the necron characters think its a Seraptek Heavy Construct due to the size of it@@satch5471
He is their primarch
@@satch5471 Death Sabre
@@satch5471 The Twice-Dead King: Ruin. About 3/4 of the way through the book. Knight isn't named, at least I don't remember if it does
“There is an acknowledgment that if they have no purpose, they will go insane."
At last, the Dark Souls of 40k
Hence Trazyns infinite collecting to keep busy
_”Give us your flesh. We demand it.”_
"Give-Give warpstones man things now-now!!"
Yeah, but they wouldn't promise us a new world, though. Way unfair.
@@Ratman36”take-take the man things Jordan-Jordan’s”
Ah yes, The Second Renaissance. *Proceeds to annihilate the last major human city
Err: "Hand over your flesh and a new world awaits you. We demand it."
i like how the flayer virus heavily implies that necron warriors still have their contiousness inside them, its just being heeeevily supressed by the controll protocolls placed on them
It's also hinted at in the Twice Dead King books at one point, where Oltyx wonders if the warriors still have their consciousness. It's just that no one has cared to ask one.
@@utes5532 imagine if an overlord just said "at ease" to a unit of wariors
Twice Dead King is an amazing book, right behind Infinite and the Divine for me, Flayed Ones play such a huge part in it, and it sets for an interesting backdrop between the drama and action.
also fun fact: There is a Chaos Knight that has gone around killing so much, that it’s grown a layer of flesh and gore, and while it had a cult following it around, they got slaughtered by Flayed Ones who noticed him, and saw him as an avatar of their god, so now they just follow him where he goes
That chaos knight is their primarch now
Guardsman Edgar your skin is hanging off of your bones.
Give me solar radiation.
In water.
More.
😃 is this better?
"i have no time to lose skin."
One thing about necrons that is amazing is their sense of time, they can not only control how fast or slow the perceive it to pass but also take years at a time on trivial things because time has no meaning. So imagine you're a necron, you decide to settle down for a bit to get some paperwork done after saying bye to your friend for a little bit... 100 years later you get up to stretch your legs a little and oops, your friend you just saw 'a while ago' is now nailing hunks of meat to his skull and screaming into the endless void.
In our terms that was a couple hours tops.
"What if it's not a virus, maybe I felt nostalgic."
- Flayed One's internal monolog probably
The Caretaker Everywhere At The End Of Time music in the background is what i imagine is playing at all times in nurgles land
The dysphorak that turns necrons into flayed ones is the most interesting part of the concept. It is a slip of the mind that leads to a spiraling panic. Before battle one day, your lord orders you to march upon the enemy.
You have done this millions of times, the first still being when you were still of flesh and blood.
You vaguely recall it and take a breath before marching.
But no breath enters your lungs.
You can't open your mouth.
Your brain craves oxygen it hasn't had in millions of years.
Your body that isn't there cries out in every way at once.
So you desperately try to take the body of the enemy. Their lungs, their face, their flesh
As an aside, I had a similar experience on a bad shroom trip. Will definitely go lower on my dose next time. Felt like if I acknowledged the dread that it would consume my entire body
Yeah, the Twice Dead King books are really cool and do a good job of humanizing the Necrons.
Lysikor my beloved
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The real MVP is Denet shaking off his madness long enough to summon the monoliths.
@@jimmcphearson7252 Only for it to do sweet fuck-all
Still loved that moment though
I want the Flayer's concept to be "confirmed" as incomprehensible on a fundamental level _because_ it was completely erased from reality by the destruction of the Flayer. The idea that there was something fundamental to reality (and by extension, life!) that was erased and the closest thing we have to it is "flaying" is sublimely horrifying in precisely the way that my neurospicy brain finds oddly pleasant
Few notes on things
For the flayer kings, they do still exist, but there's only known to be two, one of which is probably a myth (those being Valgul (the myth) and Oltyx)
Second thing, Llanugor was actually killed by several dynasties including the Ithikan dynasty (which is why they're so affected by the flayer curse)
Third thing, the pocket dimension has been elaborated on. It's a dimension considered to be beneath the intersticial dimension the Necrons use to communicate, teleport and resurrect. It's basically entirely empty with only the flayers actually being capable of navigating it properly. Even when Necron ships travelled there, they had immense trouble actually making their way through it with no easy way to guide themselves.
Think that's everything, most of this was from Twice Dead King Reign and Ruin, the two books go incredibly in depth into the flayed ones.
Great video Arthur! Have a great day if you read this!
The hardest part of being an immortal is not dying of boredom.
I really like the twice dead king books that HEVELY imply the titular twice dead king is in fact that specific flyer king in the pocket dimension
So, essentially, the curse just turns the skele-bois into wendigos.
The flayed one kind of sound like starved robotic werewolves that could never satisfied their endless hunger.🐱
In the mechanicus game, there’s a flayed one lord, lord ubjao, and he probably has the sickest flayed one design I’ve ever seen
Flayed ones that still can think for themselves?!
*Internal screaming intensifies*
Ya see, that's the stuff that makes me so happy that I subbed to your channel Arthur, you give us the good stuff while you get to nerd out a bit.
Thanks for posting this and making me smile at a truly horrifying concept. 😁
The descriptions of the "Eaters" in Twice Dead King made my skin crawl. I like how they showed that it slowly degrades the Necron mind over a long period of time. Their insatiable hunger that can never truly be filled.
Yeah if I didn’t already have tyranids, thousand sons, ravenguard, and soon the night lords killteam, I’d want to make a necron flayer dynasty, they’re just really cool and spooky
In the Mechanicus game there is a boss fight against a Necron noble that is affected by the flayed ones disease and it sounds similar to the flayed king you mentioned. I'm nit sure though Mechanicus was one of the first Warhammer things I ever interacted with and it's been some time.
Better touch on Valgul and twice dead king when you cover the ghoul stars. Absolutely amazing books and lore
You'd like the twice dead king ruin book. It ratchets up the existential horror of being a necron plus flayed ones become a pretty big point in the story
2 LL's sounds like a hiss first, place the tip of your tongue along the gum line behind your front teeth as if you were about to pronounce the letter L.
Then, while keeping your tongue firmly in place, blow a constant stream of air out of the two sides of your mouth.
I love that people just look at em as "oh, robot zombies" but no it's literally a robot wendigo curse. That's... fucking horrifying. A planet, full of wendigos. Nope nope nope
There is a flayer king in the mechanicus game.
For a while I thought that Llandu'gor represents carnivory or maybe hunger more broadly. After giving it more thought I reasoned that carnivory and hunger are either the coherent remains of it's concept or is the feeling of part of the concept being missing or indistinct.
You missed out the really old lore that states that flayed one were necrons that didn't completely shut down during the great sleep. These necrons had to stand, completely conscious, for millions of years and it drove them mad.
Speaking of an "Flayed One" Dynastie, back in 5 to 7th Edition i used to Play an custom Dynastie of the Oroskh.
They where mentioned only in the Lore parts of the Codex.
An Dynastie that is infected with the Flayer Virus very badly.
I customized a lot of models with Skin and claws from Warriors up to Cryptecs and Lychguards.
It was a pain in the Butt to build but an awesome sight on the Table 😁
This reminds me of the Knight that killed so many Nids it couldn't stop killing and became some weird roaming beast that Flayed ones follow around now cause of the gore.
Would be interesting to see how chaos reacts to the flayed ones or in general how they feel about the fallen Catan and a possible resurgence of them one day
As I am collecting Necrons from the magazine Warhammer Imperium, I will carry out your dreams of a whole army of Flayed Kings then ❤
I hired a flayer once for my butcher counter. 1 out of 10 he was very sloppy with his cuts, but his customer service skills were great, I got 0 complaints about him.
Reading the Twice Dead King right after the Infinte and Divine was a whiplash and a half
Necrons have two sides. Goofy and 'I have no mouth and I must scream'
There’s actually an entire dynasty made up of Flayed Ones except there King who seems immune to the virus itself and every once and a while will come out and attack some random world so his subjects can feed. I don’t remember what the Dynasty was called but just look up Flayer Dynasty and I think you can find it.
Have you read, "the Twice dead king" series, it's heavily based around the flayed ones, and the "I have no mouth but I must scream" aspect is so much worse than we thought
There is nothing more horrifying than that moment when you lose any sense of purpose or meaning, that moment when you can only think ahead of the next few moments as you realize you are little more than prey to some uncaring, hungry THING.
I believe Oltyx from the Twice Dead King books is a Flayer King, so they do still exist in modern lore.
If you love flayers, read Twice Dead King: Ruin and Reign. Beyond being amazing books, they go into so much detail on the flayer curse.
I know you use this background music on every video but in this one... In this one it hits different
I think we should get a Flayer Overlord model that acts as a leader character for the Necrons, and that there should be a Detachment that buffs Destroyers, Wraiths and Flayed Ones units as a sort of "Fallen to the Curse" Detachment
I know you use music from The Caretaker in a lot of your videos, but *man* it's fitting for this one in particular.
Literally just wipe your memories every once in awhile. "Damn I wish skydiving was still fun. I know! I'll just remove those memories and it will be like new!" Sure, it's still pretty horrifying, buy at least you won't go insane from boredom.
Necrons being my main army, the two concepts that have always held my attention have been the flayer virus and the destroyer cult. I hope to see an amalgamation of the two someday, even though they are somewhat contrary to one another. I might make it a goal of mine to make a destroyer cult themed army, part of me is wanting to wait till we hopefully get a resculpt of the common lokhust destroyer and maybe destroyer lord....
Interesting. My shipment of 4 boxes of Flayed Ones just came in today and you drop this video on the very same day? Very amusing, Arthur...
Coincidence? I think not!
Love how the Twice Dead king series dealt with the flayed ones...i recomend those 2 books
Kind of reminds me of the Q from star trek. Omnipotent and eternal, but they have already done everything and been everything at one time or another.
Ok tldr, but YES to the loving the real horrors in our world!
So I run a neonal kitten rescue and cat graveyard here on the Oregon coast, a bonus because the place looks like Silent Hill 70% of the year.
I see the worst of the worst cases. I love my job. I love helping with the horrors these animals are faced with. Pain and suffering, death and ritual. It's all filled with so much grief, and I feel like I have the best job in the world. A lot of people say that they could not do our job because they could not see a kitten go through suffrage like that, and oh yeah, dying kittens are absolutely gut wrenching. But I'm so lucky and so honored to be here to help, or to just guide them home.
Anyway, I get loving horror in a loving way. I just think if people turned the Rubik's cube that they are holding, and look at it from a different angle, they will see beauty in the things that they fear. Death is not the worst thing that could happen to them, being with the dying is such an honor, yes that there is pain and suffering, but you can be for others to help. And that is beautiful
" The way is lit, the path is clear, we require only the strength to follow it "
There is a flayed one boss fight in the game Mechanicus. He's dress kinda like a pharon and I belive he was labeled a flayed king or something similar
so,
Eventually all the necrons will.succumb and become flayers......
At this point meqahto hasn’t seen a bones video mentioning nightlords
While the second Twice-Dead King was just okay, they both gave a REALLY good look at Flayed Ones and the Flayer Virus as a whole and its existential horror on top of the already-horrible state of being a Necron. Curious if you'll look into the Destroyers as well, since they're also just so fascinating in how they're harnessing their own body dysphoria to fuel their hate
I would rather a sort of Flayer Beast to lead flayed one units and soak damage, than a flayer king. Some kind of hideous amalgam of multiple flayed ones fuses together. A flayed lord would be nice though, especially a certain character from a certain book
these are the type of things that would make the most battle hardened individual go "wtf are these and why are they the way that they are?"
Always liked the concept and models, but current ones are such a pain to assemble.
Flayed ones are awesome! And not talked about too much. There's also not much about what happens to different types of Necrons when they get infected, they mostly seem Necron-warrior-esque.
Well, this is why I've been working on homebrew rules for A Flayer Cult Kill Team for a while!
I’d love for you to cover hive fleet Tiamet and to hear some of your theories on what the hell they’re protecting.
The spookiest thing about the flayer curse I learned is from the Infinite and the Divine. The Flayer curse can spread in the same way that the Destroyer cult of the Necrons propagates. It’s basically a computer virus that can spread through transmission of data, even including the most basic of communication. As a Necron, you could literally get the flayer virus by just talking to one.
Wouldn't it be fucking cool if the Flayed Ones are all coalescing to Drazak, in order to re-form Llandugor through the flesh and metal they bring?
Very much Dead Space necromorph-style "MAKE US WHOLE" thing?
Never considered getting Nekrons until I saw the flayed ones.
There is a chaos dreadblade knight who went insane and draped itself in skin and the flayed ones showed up and just kind of follow it around
so c'tan of hunger.
this explains corpse starch
Why is it so many think the Flayed Ones have to have human flesh tone paint. I had quite a bit of fun painting all the different 40k races skin tones on them. Tau blue and Ork Green worked out very well. Even tried green stuff to get a Nid plate but it didn’t work as well as I wanted. However that genestealer purple did.
The twice dead king series kinda introduced a flayer king
Can't believe you didn't mention the Flayer Knight Cult
I like how Warhammer 40k : Mechanicous portrayed a Flayer King.
You need to read the Twice Dead King books. Without spoilers there’s a lot of Flayed Ones action.
Im one of those people who think that immortality is probably the worst fate one could possibly have
Please talk about the ghoul stars and the planet of Drazak! Val'gul is one of the characters mentioned in Necron lore that I desperately want a model for, especially given that (If I remember reading the older codex's correctly) while his entire planet is consumed by the flayer virus... He isn't. He's not mutated, he has no hunger, he is completely sane; and I cannot remember if this is Fanon or if it is actually in the codex, but if I remember right the reason he's sane is because he was cursed to be immune to the virus by the Flayer god himself, as a special "fuck you in particular".
Nice Ellison nod! Also, great work in general. As is the usual with you, your content is super dope.
Whatever you do, don't stop uploading. Your videos itch my brain in a way that a lot of content creators fail to do. Keep it up King 💪
Ah yes, the “peel people like fruit” bots
Arthur would probably be blasted by the Flood
One of my greatest fears is becoming imortal
If you were interested in flayed ones and their actual origin. Along with a description and story within their pocket dimension, the ghost wind. Then I would heavily recommend the Twice dead king Books.
More flayed one or more works would be awesome but you do you Mr. Bones
I just want to see the Night Lords or the Drukhari get hunted by the Flayed Ones. Nightmares being hunted by nightmares.
Night Lord: Daawww, the robot is wearing skin, just like me. Oh, look, he brought friends....
Drukhari: Nope nope nope, that's not the suffering we want, stamp these things out NOW!!!
spi-titans would be a cool thing to cover
I want more Votann lore. But I think you've covered everything out there because GW can't future plan
The Flayed Ones are so awesome
I kind of want to make a Flayed One for my DND game now. I love the idea of a sad confused robit murdering everything it sees to try and end this endless hunger.
I remember when the flayed ones were the 6th made 7th unit for the Necrons and I hated playing against them. 😅 morale? What morale! Just those units being on the table meant you were not going to have a good day. But, they were effective, and it wasn’t a virus back then either.
The flayed ones were my favorite part of twice dead king
My first thought on the question, Imagine how you'd be if you lived forever.
Emet-selk : “I have lived a thousand thousand of your lives.
I have broken bread with you, fought with you, grown ill, grown old, sired children and yes, welcomed death’s sweet embrace.”
lolol I knew about the skin wearing (boy us humans sure think it's weird when other things do it to us, eh? *adjusts leather jacket*) but I didn't know they all end up trying to eat people and even add a jaw so they can try more... nicely ties it all together into the whole wanting your body back horror. If chaos can corrupt human AIs, and C'Tan can corrupt necrons, and they can both twist a human around their finger even more easily, does that mean robot brains are actually super close to human brains e.g. they have a soul???
You know how in warhammer fantasy the dwarfs had a slayer sub-culture, it would be cool if the flayed ones got something similar so you could do a flayed one theme army
Steve the Human.
Nuff said.
I still have my 4th edition coded and necrom army.....I loved my floaty wraiths
Dont know why, but i was always under the impression that flayed ones were draped in flesh because they themselves wanted to be flesh again rather than a soulless robot.
I love what they did with the flayed ones in the Twice Dead King books. Would love to hear your opinion on them!
Got perhaps a more disturbing version of flayed ones(toyed with the idea of terror unit for a setting), explanation would take too much space.
Flayed ones themed necron army sounds both disturbing, and interesting to see in model form at same time(some flayed one destroyer variant, hm?).
5:28 In Wales the double L is pronounced like a C.
I learned that from Jimmy Carr. :P
The flayed ones where my introduction into warhammer
welp that's one hell of an introduction xD
THE NECRON GHOOOOOUL KIIIING. TELLLL MEEEE OF HIMM
If you understand spanish and want to see more stories about the curse of immortality lemme tell ya, the argentinian comic Gilgamesh the immortal is amazing and something that I would 100% recommend to almost everyone
So I've got a bit of a head cannon about Flayed ones. That not only do the get the emotion of hunger back but for warriors and immortals some of the personhood as well twisted as it is by the curse.
Several times in Necron books we see flayed ones "talk" to each other, offer other Necrons "Food" and most damming of all plan random unranked Necrons planning. Theirs a person in their or is it just the ghost of a dead god?
Ahh the flayed ones if you want to learn more about them I highly recommend reading the Twice Dead Kings books by Nate Crowley there very interesting.
The Dawn of War Dark Crusade necrons are horrific and powerful. I like how the model looks even if its a bit dated