When Murph Copped Five Minutes
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- In 2002, Kiwi Greg Murphy copped a 5-minute penalty for driving away with the fuel hose still connected in pit lane which resulted in large amount of fuel spilling in the pits.
Whilst serving the penalty, Murphy took the time to take a toilet break and famously followed by TV cameras entering a portable toilet in the Kmart Racing pit garage.
I think this was Murphy's motivation for 2003.
"Jesus is that a tent!"
"Geez is that a tent?!"
Jeesis is thit a tint?
😂😂😂 No survivors have walked out yet !!
"Is ivryone orroight?"
Bloody hell it's Sim leg end Aiden bloody Millward... Sign me shirt mate!
I'm a Ford man but I'm still mystified at this penalty. A drive through penalty would of been enough. Yes safety is paramount, but Murphy was understandably angry for obvious reasons, this remains one of the most ridiculous penalties I've ever seen.
Maybe a 15 second stop and hold maybe.
How could a ford man say that, don’t you remember Murphy was the one who took out Ambrose in 2005 Bathurst, Ambrose coulda had a chance to win that race or at least get a podium considering he was the fastest car at that point in the race
He bloody well had it coming mate,
By weight ordinary octane has 8 times more explosive power than dynamite. Dynamite has 5.23 MJ per Kg, octane 43.2 MJ per kg. If that fuel had gone up everyone with in ten meters would have been killed instantly and the rest of pit lane would have exploded in a chain reaction that would have killed more people than all the fatalities in the history of motor sport.
They had to send a message about the consequences of getting careless, Murph got out of it very cheaply indeed, anyway he was so pissed that he can back next year and set a new lap record in the top ten shootout and lead the race from start to finish and knocked 26 minutes of the previous years race time.
But that's Bathurst for you, Mt Panorama is the most unforgiving track in the world and so are the stewarts we all know the rules fuck up and people die there's only been one falat in the history of race and that's why it's to this day the greatest motor race in the world, you can keep your wingless terrain following aircraft, nothing says drive me if you dare like a V8 going over skyline at 200 kph.
It looked to me like the goal of this penalty was to make sure teams took action so it never happened again. Sure the penalty was draconian but the stewards were probably thinking if it had of gone up would we be permitted to have mid race refueling in the future?
If this seems ridiculous remember refueling was stopped in formula one because of fears of pit lane fires
@@thefacelessmen2101 You've never seen a pit lane fuel spill before clearly. Look up the Jos Verstappen incident in F1 around 1994 or 95, it wast just a big fireball
7:13 Iconic.
Lowndes did a pretty great impression of it after the race today also
7:28 Murph's Throne
Bloody good eyes mate, didn't see that till I saw this comment. Pretty funny that one
"Jesus is that a tent?!" hahaha :D
The worst, most embarrassing penalty applied in Australian motoring history. Proved once again just how out of touch many officials are with the racers and fans.
It wasn't the driver's fault in anyway. It should have been a fine and or points deducted from the manufacturer's championship only.
Agreed. Only ex - drivers should be allowed to be officials in motorsport.
Wow, this still pisses me off to this day, every time a really stupid penalty is handed down that doesn't fit the crime, I'm reminded of this ridiculous moment in time.
+Bean like going to jail for 24 hours for a dime sized amount of weed?
Bean because several dropped litres of fuel could start a massive fire. Several F1 cars have done it and were penalised for it
really....
That penalty is unheard of! A 5 minutes stop and go? Wow that is super harsh. I have never seen a more severe penalty that then in auto racing. It is just insane.
Agreed. Can't be justified.
5 minutes is a yoke
That was way too tough. Even today, over ten years on, I think this was a ridiculously long penalty. I thought it was tough when I first saw this when I was 7. I don't think I've seen a 5 minute penalty before or since this incident.
Ben Ward mate,
just this Bathurst Jamie Wincup got a 15 min penalty for clipping tanders rear
joe, That's me it was 15 seconds... 😉
joe, That's me
Yes, I'm aware of that. By the way, Scotty McLaughlin was the one who whacked Tander's right rear. Jamie was attempting to redress Scotty and Tander, who I'm assuming didn't see him re-entering the track, went "I'm having Whincup. _WHERE'D HE COME FROM!?!?!_"
Ben Ward totally agree
joe, That's me Although Whincup should of been penalized 15 minutes just for even racing to begin with!
He must hate going up to shops and seeing signs saying "be back in 5 minutes, taking a toilet break"
YEAH WELL NEING A KIWI MYSELF IT NOW REMINDS ME OF A FRENCH REF IN RUGBY NOT LONG AGO LOL
@@shanerusbatch9197 lol!!
😂😂
Gamecube Replay is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
One time you’d be screaming for someone to wreck and they all drive carefully. That’s a joke penalty. Should just have given them a team fine -wasn’t the drivers fault the car drops you go
well he got that penalty for "punting" lowndes off at winton in 03 when the footage clearly showed he had no where to go, also should be noted that in those 2 years he finished 2nd in the championship.
did yas catch the sign on the port-a-loo at 7:23? "Murph's Throne" hahahaha
Oh man I sure remember that. Everyone was shocked at the long penalty given.
Totally ridiculous and disproportionate. Whoever decided this should be binned.
This is the moment Murphy’s attitude changes and he became mega agro against everyone
Absolutely. He was definitely an angry man after this.
The officials were all ways trying to give their best mate skaiffy a leg up ,the whole season was like this
Not a Murph fan, but that was so ridiculous...
When Murph Copped Five Minutes in the Super Loo.
Best part of this video
GEEEEZ IS THAT A TENT 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow harshest penalty I've ever seen.
Stupid penalty, might as well have retired the car. No point continuing.
Potentially the most ridiculously harsh penalty in motorsports. A hefty fine and 1 minute stop and go penalty would've sufficed. But 5 minutes? Ludicrous.
Who could forget this?
If I was his teammate I'd have wrecked on purpose to bring out the yellow so he wouldn't lose as much time.
I don't think that would work. I can't remember exactly how penalties work in V8 Supercars, but in Formula 1, you can't serve drive-through penalties or stop/go penalties during yellow flag and safety car periods.
avengedsoul6661 That is true but what if his team wrecks the car causing a safety car to come out while he’s serving his penalty
Surely they can’t stop him serving at penalty in that rule
The Chisanator Are you Nelson Piquet Jr. in disguise? Lol
Matt Leary lmaoo!
The next year he showed up with a motorised portaloo
+roadwolf2 And won with it. The bastards have tried to patent the "EweLoo", but it just doesn't sell for some reason.
and to this day the stewards STILL can't identify the difference between a driver or team infringement. This is a team infringement, completely out of control of the driver, and should have been penalised with a $50,000 fine, $35,000 of which could have been suspended for 12 months.
Definitely Driver error. Murph admits his signal man wasn't standing in front of his car because he was obviously watching the fuel. He was not cleared to leave the pit. He just made the assumption that the car has dropped so he could drive off.
AussieMusicRocks similar to Kimi Raikkonen recently.
If you're going to say that it's driver error you have to acknowledge what a confusing situation it is for the driver to be dropped without the signal man there to clear him. Instinctively taking off when dropped would be very, very easy to do when you have no information about whether you're clear or not. I think it would be fair to call it driver error that was directly caused / forced by team error. In any case, unduly harsh to punish him that way.
@@AussieMusicRocks Suspend the signal man and the fuel refiller for the rest of the season, massive fine for the team and a PLP for Murphy.
Watching this after someone copped a five minute penalty in this year's Bathurst 12 Hour.
will admit i did yell out "FIVE MINUTES!" when it was announced
It wasn't just this race, Murphy copped it at Eastern Creek in 2001 so V8's could let their precious Skaife win.
Anthony Kernich and Winton was it 2002? Bumped Lowndes off after CL crossed it up
And when Ambrose and Luffy copped the penalties for not wearing their balaclava. You just knew Ingall and others weren't wearing theirs. Ambrose was winning at the time, and who won at the end? Skaife.
All moot since Ambrose and Murph had their road rage incident at the cutting, but still...
that incident at the cutting was a racing incident
@@AidanMillward get off it, as if skaife hasnt had his share. Remember when someone hit him and caused his rear door to flop open 3 inches? It was restrained by a belt and couldnt open any further but they waited and waited and then with only a few laps to go ordered him into the pits to fix it, destroying his lead and ruining his race.
Skaife would feel he has enough talent to win without any help.
Very cool that the commentators can talk to the drivers
Jesus's is that a tent?
Should have just been a stop and go penalty, 5 minutes is ridiculous.
He was on pole, and he was leading the race, and then this happened. Heart breaking then.
But
The next year we arrived in pit lane in a port-a-loo, being pulled by crew members dressed in lion suits (for Holden.)
Love Murph.
I get that the fuel rig mistake is a super massive deal.... but 5 minutes? You may as well have DQ'd him... Ford man through and through, and back in those days I really didn't like Murph either (I was an Ambrose man) but that penalty was way over the top.
I miss watching the V8's in the good ol' days. Watching Skaife
someone should of locked the door.....
American here trying to get into Australian Supercars. What year was this? '01?
Yeah 01-02 judging by the VX commies.
skankuser 2002.
***** So was it '01?
skankuser 2002.
juniorgeneric I know now, thanks. Was more of a jab at the prick with the wall of text.
When the safety car is a BA while the racecars are all AU's
Kareem Mobarek The BA was brand new but Ford did make a test car as they always did and I think that was at Bathurst but I'm not sure about that.
AU is the greatest car ever made
@@cris8ro I disagree but your enthusiasm is great haha
@@RunningOn7CylindersYT The BA Falcon V8 Supercar was an test car at Bathurst in 2002 for the 2003 season as Project Blueprint
@@jackbollingmoore6113 oh yeah I remember that
3:10
Even more hilarious than murph raging in the portapotty
In the V8's yes, but in one of the other series that runs at Bathurst Warren Luff had the same issue and gto the same penalty.
Murph should've gotten either a drive-through penelty,or a 30 sec.Stop and go.
No way. 5 min was appropriate. Dropping the car while the fuel is still connected, I can't think of anything worse.
+Joel Barron Common, not even the commentators agreed with it :/
why should murphy be penalised cause the crew fucked up. Murphy has no control over when the car is dropped. they are remote controlled jacks and it was a crew member that dropped the car early and his pitman wasnt in front of the car like he should have been.
The teams and drivers are connected though. There has to be a deterrent for this kind of thing, and a fine would not be sufficient - so a penalty in the race to the driver was certainly appropriate. However, 5 minutes just seems so arbitrary and random. You either outright disqualify him or make it a penalty that is somewhat more understandable, such as a normal stop and go.
Ridiculous penalty. Never seen before, never seen since.
5 minutes at Bathurst....fuuuuckin hell.
My friends call me Murphy. You call me : Robostop.
Absolutely insane. Didn’t just kill his Bathurst race this cost him a championship
Penalty? Yes. 5 min? no...
did his penalty make him last?
Surprisingly, no. He ended up 13th I believe.
"Is that a tent?"
It's not as if the fuel spill was deliberate. Issuing a penalty for an accident that didn't give an unfair advantage or send other cars off the track is already a bit ridiculous. Five minutes is just insane.
Racing is still dangerous business, just let them get on with it.
Yet in the same era a SBR Falcon drags a G size air cylinder down pit lane and no penalty given to Team Teflon!
Many years later he has copped another 5 mins
Does anyone know exactly what he said?
The only reason I can think it's a 5-minute stop-go is that presumably if the safety car was deployed when he came in for his penalty, he'd only lose 1 lap because the SC takes about 4 minutes to complete a signal lap yes?
when he got the penalty, the race was under green flag and it also was when he served the penalty.
Yeh I understand that in this scenario, the race is under green flag conditions, but what if the SC was deployed just as Murphy was coming in to serve the penalty - 5 mins in the pits under yellows will be less costly than 5 mins in the pits under greens...
Matt Leary If it's anything like a drive through in terms of the rules, they wouldn't allow the penalty to be served under Yellow anyway. Say for example another car got a 5 minute penalty for doing the same thing and Murph served his penalty while the safety car was out and the other car did it under green, you can only imagine the uproar.
Same as with a drive through, you never see cars being black flagged under Yellow because it'd be unfair if one bloke had a drive through while the safety car was out and could make up a heap of time when he enters the track, while another is black flagged under green conditions. You can never predict when a safety car will be deployed and the officials aren't going to root around waiting for a Yellow before they hand out a penalty, they'll make you do it right away when it's green or once the field restarts the race under green conditions. It's the only way they can dish out even punishments.
Never will you see it happen under a caution.
so why penalise the driver who is in no way at fault. it should have been a team penalty of $50,000 or something, not a driver penalty of 5 minutes.
...and he went on to win the race.
Murphy deserved every second of that penalty.
AVESCO at it's finest...
The worst moment in V8 Supercars. 5 minutes ???? Its simply a joke.
so you agree it was a little to harsh then?
Have you got five minutes Murph?
I'm a ford man thru and thru but this is just stupid. Yes fuel is very dangerous but that should have resulted in a fine.
What song is at the start of this video please?
"Cake - The Distance".
TrickyMario7654 Thank you so much mate
what's the blurred sponsor on the back of murph's car?
Pedigree Dog Foods or something like that, except the vision's probably the problem here.
the vision is definitely fine, it's the only bit that's blurred at all
VIP Pet FOods most likely. They were involved in that time period but I am not sure if it's VIP or Pedigree...but both were involved in the sport.
Makes me miss this era of racing, I mean, F1 aside, the early 2000s were a great era for racing, sportscars? You had the ALMS going from strength to strength in the early/mid 2000s and then dying off in the 2010s. BTCC TOuring cars? V8SC as it was, was great with two makes, BTCC was rebuilding itself, the reborn DTM was fun to watch, ETCC that became WTCC was fun to watch.
Open wheel? Well....ignoring F1 as it was dominated by Ferrari....you had CART which in the early 2000s, well, 2000/2001 was ultra competitive and saw a lot of highlight reel races, IRL as it was, was also fantastic to watch, the junior formulas were fun to watch too.
So yeah...where are those series now?
BTCC's still around
ALMS merged into the IMSA WeatherTec series in the US, CART CART died, was reborn, and eventually merged into the modern Indycar series. NASCAR has been up and down and is currently fiddling with its series again.
Aussie Supercars is still around despite Volvo's pulling out (which I'm bitter about), WTCC's still around, F1's if anything become more dominated by top teams, and the junior formulas are still worth watching.
So yeah. Stilll personally think the late 90s/early 2000s were a mini golden age for motorsports and got a ton of fans into the sport as a whole.
So, that leaves (currently) Ford, Holden and Nissan, 'cos Merc left last year.
And Volvo. How's the Double Unicorn going? cheers.
Well the mountain gods must have had to a bit of mercy, gave him the honey before the badger, get a bit amuse at a tent going over then get slapped with a 5 minute penalty
Five minutes? May as well have been half an hour. Totally disproportionate.
Still can't figure this penalty out. Should never have been a 5 minute one, just crazy.
hmmm. On the flip side all that fuel caught alight and chaos took over. Maybe an imagination stretch but what would you say a drive through penalty be just enough to punish a few people's livelihood? Has this incident ever happened again after this penalty handed down?
i'd love to know why its 5 minutes. Such a random arse number.
All numbers are random arse but one has to be picked
Probably a random ass number because they pulled it out of their ass
I wouldn’t have stopped.
Dangerous pitstop ever.
what year was this
ThePOWERMAN101 This is from 2002
Its a team sport. They win together they loose together.
the marshall was on it in 0.001 seconds
The tent got a 10 minute penalty..
Do they have real toilets at Bathurst yet?
They should have fined the team after the race it wasn't the drivers fault!
That is the most stupid penalty I've ever seen.
the safty car has caused more accdents then spilt fuel
From 6:18
Is that Paul Radisich in the Com Box?
May aswell get out and get some Lunch
Hahha Gold!!! LEGEND👍
An arbitrary decision if there ever was one
Haha, does that say Murphys Throne on the shithouse door?
Murph went when the car dropped as he should have.
Jesus is that a tent??
5 minutes ? really ?
the worst penalty I've ever seen.
I'm a Holden man
5 minutes is the most idiotic penalty i have ever seen in my life!!!
i remember that haha this is the only one i remember
I'm gonna go get some m&ms now
Does Oastler actually "5 minute penalty for that fuck up with the fuel rig." at 3:50? That's how outrageous the penalty was, I think he got away with swearing on the air.
+Ryan Fox he says muck up
+Ryan Fox I think he said " muck up"
I know Mark Oastler is more professional than that. He would never swear live on TV. Probably offline he would have mentioned something like that and worse ! That's the passion of V8 Supercars.
Maybe a drive through and a monetary fine??? Harsh
yes, highly combustible, very
May aswell just disqualified him because 5 minutes is enough to cost you the race.
Matt White commentating
I THINK IT IS BECAUSE WHINCUP HAD A WHINGE
I don't think he was even driving at Bathurst in 2002.
He was, it was his first Bathurst.
To date, the 'officials' are yet to be named that ruled upon this incident. Time they're accountable for this.
Was Paul Radisich one of them?
Retired ATCC driver Paul Radisich was Driving Standards Observer, and Tim Schenkin was Race Director.
@@djshotty I think Colin Bond was the DSO at the time.
He was driving for the wrong team, had he been driving for triple eight he would have got away without any penalty. (I think a few backhanders are happening with supercars and triple eight) Penalty was way too severe and over the top to even be competitive for the rest of the race. Supercars are holden biased in particular triple eight but they should be neutral that is why other brands are running away and leaving the sport in a big hurry
Back in this time it was HRT
And now in 2019 teams can blatantly cheat and get a small fine ( for a massive company ) and a points deduction that won’t affect the title. Times have definitely changed
And if you are team888 you can blatantly cheat all the time and not be punished at all
When and how did they cheat ?
@@Alex-tu9bh it should be when have they not cheated
Name a few ?
5 minutes for something he didnt do stop go for ambrose for not wearing safety gear makes sense