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I want less sq footage than these cottages have. I want the financial freedom of a Tiny home, so if these carry a large mortgage, I'm not interested. But I do like the community aspect, and the joint efforts with solar and water reuse. I'd like a Tiny village, but those are rare and not where I have a business. So.... I'm looking for land.
Definitely a cottage. Our home is 1650 sq ft, and though I LOVE IT, there’s quite a bit of unused space, so I COULD go smaller, but not so sure about a tiny home.
The cottages are simply smaller homes similar to many older homes in my town. The cottages seem more sensible for families, with more storage and more interior privacy. Developments like the one you featured would be really nice for elderly people...no yard to maintain, yet enough space for their children and grandchildren to visit.
Exactly, when I retire and move back home to Louisiana within the next 5 or so years, this is exactly what I want. Builders in the recent past don't seem to build this type of house (small with luxury/high end type of amenities), but every town in America has neighborhoods from the early 20th Century with small houses, and nice architectural features. Maybe this will be a trend.
I was reading an article where a nursing home and university shared a space and that made it possible for the resident students to have a caring relationship with the nursing home residents. It was very sweet and beneficial for both parties
To me, the current definition of a tiny home is a fancy camper or small trailer home with home-like exterior trim and siding. These homes have camper-like layouts but with tall ceilings and large windows. It's permanent camper living for people who want more privacy and outdoor living within a touch of roughing it on a small budget. To some folks it represents a sort of pioneer like freedom. The lifestyle is sometimes referred to as glam camping or glamping. A small home or cottage has real rooms with full height ceilings and conventional bathrooms and kitchens. It can be a manufactured home or modular or stick built, but doesn't skimp on conventional home features and doesn't necessarily need to be on a large lot. It tends to attract folks who want a second home or young couples on a budget or older folks wanting to downsize.
Find me a developer who actually wants to build cottage homes. Huge demand for them and yet no one is building them. I thought it was pretty obvious tiny homes are basically closets on wheels. America has gone off the RAILS with huge houses and bloated mortgages. We have to go back to traditional, normal sized homes.
(7:07) Those two blue cottage home is super cute, positive energy and cozy looking. I prefer the cottage or old timeless cottage from the 1920-1940 over the the modern tiny house any day.
The cottages and tiny homes are two different things. I would like to settle for a cottage because I prefer to have bigger space without paying a higher price. Excellent presentation, and looking forward to watch all the videos now.
Please take a look at the channel, Living Big in a Tiny House, and you will see homes that are designer homes. I haven’t seen one tiny sink or tiny faucet yet.
i want to a 3 story cottage home/art studio with a basement. The basement and first floor would be dark stained wood with cast iron hinges and the doors wood be arched and gotta have a spiral staircase.
Soooo. Not a 'retirement' home I gather. Spiral staircases can be Artsy, but not conducive to Old Age living. Eventually people either replace them OR have to move.
From my understanding, tiny homes are under 399 SF to be legally classified as such for tax purposes. They are considered to be under RV regs. Let's have the best of both worlds - a cottage on a couple acres!
@@KristinaSmallhorn My goal at this point in my life (just turned 70) is to separate my property into 2 lots, keeping 1 1/2 acres (half acre requirement out here in TN). The house I'm in is 2 stories and I don't need that anymore. I'm looking at the Falcon modular (!) home built by Oak Creek Homes. I want to make kitchen and laundry room mods, but it's pretty cool as is. Do a review on it!
I agree with the 399sf measure to qualify as a Tiny Home.... some are even 125sf... perhaps they should be called "micro" homes... or coffins? We had a beach house that was 520sf .. I'd consider that a SMALL cottage rather than tiny. For me personally the whole idea of either a tiny or small house would primarily be about Affordability. If it doesn't save you money... what's the point? Also, for me personally.. a house does NOT have wheels on it. I want a solid foundation... and preferably a basement.. for storage.. (and storm shelter) would be desirable.. sitting on my own land of at least 2 acres. Being rural one would likely be needing a septic system and an artesian well so with that kind of investment. building Small vs Tiny just makes more sense. Right now I have a 'decent' sized, modest 3 bedroom colonial. When the kids were home I did wish we had a larger home... however.. now that it's just us I REALLY do appreciate the lower tax bill. Just one of many practical Life Trade Offs. We've always been mortgage free and that is worth a LOT to us. One reason I would consider a true tiny house... or even (gasp) a trailer.. or a yurt, would be as a temporary dwelling while getting my mortgage free small retirement house built. Some things are worth making sacrifices for. Financial peace of mind is high on my list. You can put up with a lot IF it's temporary and the pay off is great enough.
I like the cottages, BUT, on a piece of land ringed by trees and a moat, and ninja racoons. Also amenities, of course! No more than 15 min from a grocery store, a library, a craft store and delivery pizza (gotta pay the racoons!)
THOW cost so much per sq.ft. because everything is custom by independent contractor. You can't always find premade vanities etc from big box stores that will fit. Also, RV's are mass produced in a warehouse with pre molded parts. It's basically a very nice, high quality, better insulated less carbon footprint RV. And long run is significantly less expensive. One thing not mentioned: taxes. THOW is classified as an Recreational VEHICLE and is taxed as such. "Cottage" is really a house and is taxed as such. That community is really just overpriced small houses. Especially considering how little land comes with it. Is there a HOA? That would be such a deal breaker.
I'll wait for the market to reset itself before I will buy anything.? These prices are ridiculous 🙄 My first house was 923 ft and I loved it. I now live in a real tiny home ..a travel trailer..and I love it also.. I def couldn't be in a community. I need my space. Thanks again Kristina.
The point of the tiny home is so that you don't have to spend money on the ridiculous mortgage. They're beautiful but they are smaller homes/cottage style.
Agreed. Many young people are willing to tolerate a truly Tiny house temporarily... say around 250 sqft... in order to SAVE enough money to eventually build/ buy a larger (wheels free) home. They are a means to an end. One couple eventually moved into their normally sized home and kept the tiny home as an office. The tiny home made it all possible.
you paid for the house may be pay 60000.00 to 90,000.00 to build and have to pay the landlord for the land and water sew all kind where I live here about 650 per month average go check it out before iump in to any things...
I think that maybe the high cost with Chatham Park is maybe because of the location in Raleigh Research Triangle region. Love to know that a traditional stick-built house on my own lot in my area would be much less. Thanks for your videos!!! ❤️
They’re too large to be considered tiny - I guess cottage it is. I think they’re very cute too...although I’m thinking about long term aging in place - and stairs aren’t the best thing. But, two story homes are popular because they can add more of them in a development compared to single level. So, I’m wondering how many single level home plans will actually be built.
One day I would like to build but not a tiny home. I do love the cottages and their size and function would suit me better. You’ve given me better options to plan for in the future.
I grew up in a neighborhood and all the homes were built post war Only 796 sq feet! It was huge to us! 1/4 acre lots. Seemed normal. Now when I go back for a visit after living on a farm 180 acres , it’s tiny. I told my parents how did we do it.
Someone come up with a cottage the 55+ age female group can afford. We cannot get a 15-30 yr loan. No one will lend to our age group and $200,000 is still not affordable. Especially with limited income at 55 plus. There’s a zillion women that fall into this category. :/
I definitely feel like tiny homes are a very American concept, but not in a bad way. America traditionally makes large homes, comparing them to other countries, so having different set sizing (tiny homes, small homes and traditional homes) isn’t a bad thing. In Canada we have cabins and cottages, in Ontario we call them cottages but on the east coast they are called cabins. They are the same thing, both are small traditionally sized homes, some are the size of shacks/stands and have very little inside them.
This is what society needs: villages. These pocket communities surrounding public areas and being near shopping centers and business areas are what we need to thrive. Cottages are wonderful.
A tiny home is a very small dwelling of minimal square feet, (think travel trailer size of 8 ft wide by 18-30 ft long). Inexpensive to build or buy, can be moved , and is designed for simplistic living with minimal expense and a low impact on the environment. The goal being to have a home that is self sufficient, and often off grid by using innovation to supply power water, and heat. The homes in this development are not tiny homes, but are small homes or cottages. The manufactured "tiny home " is in reality a park model manufactured home, that is much larger than a tiny home, and is more designed for a park community with needed grid connections to power, sewer, and water.
not a chance you only have 1 cup in that cabinetry. and I love these little cottages there so pretty and seem to have a little more space plus there is such a beautiful area , 6,13 hahahaah don't look behind you
I would go for a cottage. Number one, I don't want to stoop when I go to bed and I bet making the bed in a loft is a bear, not to mention climbing up and down ladders....knowing what I do about composting toilets for a long term choice...uh, NO. Also worry about how would you escape a tiny home in case of fire inside. But a big one is in colder climates having the pipes freeze and cold floors and critters getting underneath.
Tiny Homes typically are limited to no more than 8.5 feet wide due to National Highway, Transportation & Safety Administration criteria. That being said, there are some homes that have pop outs for expansion and I myself have designed an expandable Tiny Home Design that nearly doubles its size when parked or set on foundation.
I see these cottage communities as wanting a smaller home (downsize, eco footprint, etc) but also, as you said, a different lifestyle. They want community as in: easier access to potlucks, getting to know your neighbors, being able to reach your neighbors in a few footsteps and not several blocks. If the houses are scaled down, you lose some privacy but you gain a group of people committed to spending time together with the access that makes it much more possible. At least, that’s the gist of what I’m seeing is the goal of the cottage communities.
another HUGE difference is that (most) tiny homes are built indvidually for their owners needs, there´s nothing thats too crazy - sauna? genuine italian pizza oven? a place for your hammock right in your lounge area? - whereas with these cottages, you have to pick from 2(!) standard floorplans and no say in the layout of your kitchen, bathroom or any other feature.
So, I think a tiny house is anything under 600 square feet. Many people make tiny homes on wheels because it's easier to do legally. You may be surprised to learn that building a tiny home on a foundation on a piece of land is often actually illegal. Anyways, tiny homes vary greatly in terms of price per square foot. Some people make their entire build mostly by themselves and with upcycled materials, resulting in some amazing builds for 60k and under. Not ALL tiny homes are on wheels, though, and may be re-purposed garages or cottage or cabin-looking dwellings that just happen to be under 600 square feet. Most "cottages" I find are somewhere between 700-1000 square feet. Small, but not "tiny". I think the only REAL difference is one of size, and perhaps "style". Tiny homes may be under 600 square feet, but they are not confined to a "cottage" style or ANY style. I've seen some pretty cool cob tiny homes! Also, people who go tiny often want to experience more of the world and travel. Others want to invest in some land and build a permanent structure on it. Regardless, most I've seen like to have their own little spot that feels private and not crowded. I've seen some seriously decked out "tiny house" kitchens that have all full-sized appliances and rival kitchens in many large houses I've seen! These cottages are lovely but incredibly expensive. It's still my dream to eventually get some land and build a tiny permanent structure on it.
No, the homes in the subdivision are regular houses - some are just small houses. A tiny home is something completely different. The subdivision houses are very nice, but they're also right on top of each other. I appreciate that they're energy efficient and plan on using recycled grey-water for irrigation, etc., but they are still regular 'homes'. To me, a 'tiny home' is one that you can put on your own land - as much as you have - and are actually 'tiny' - 600 sq. ft or less. It all depends on one's preference, whichever they choose, but there are differences.
These cottages would be great for young adults wanting more room than an apartment or a growing family of 1 to 2 kids that either can’t afford or don’t need a larger 3 or 4 bedroom house yet.
Nice video. I agree with many of your points except size. There may be definitions that use 600 sqft, but the reality is that the tiny homes we see today are around 200 to 300 sqft. Even the examples you showed are that small, or smaller. I think what you said about having an actual kitchen, bedroom, bath etc, is the key. The ability to build rooms into your house starts around 400 sqft. At that point, your structure more resembles a house than a camper. The 600 sqft number comes about because even though you can build a house in 400 sqft, after you add the barest of amenities, like utility room, closets, etc, you get to 600 sqft. Likewise, in the tiny (camper) world, 400 is too large and thus they tend towards 200 to 300 sqft. So maybe there is a gap between 400 and 600 because 400 is too much room for a camper and too little for a house. The prices are nuts, but that is due to marketing and the fact that the market for tiny homes is such a weird niche. Tiny homes could be made the same cost per sqft as regular homes, but there isn't a market for them. Sure, some couple is saying "I would buy a tiny home if it was priced the same per sqft as regular homes!" But that same couple could buy a trailer at those low prices, but they don't because they don't want to live in a trailer park. And a neighborhood of cheap tiny homes would be a trailer park. So tiny homes are ironically a luxury item. Unless of course you go off and build or contract your own at real prices.
You might wanna look at the incredible tiny home site they are building tiny homes and putting them on land with the owners deposit so you kind of get both but it is you paying a deposit and then eventualIy rent.
I think I’ll stick with my affordable 2000 Skyline at $30 sq. ft. Ah those cottages are cute but then again I was 45 years ago. Btw Kristina great work out equipment in the background. 😊👍
@@KristinaSmallhorn lol.. it looked like the TRX system. That is great!! Boy I wish a lot of parents would be that conscientious of their children’s physical health. 👍
One thing I would consider is Sellability. While some types of homes Appreciate in value, others Depreciate in value. Some 'modular' homes etc. do not qualify for certain financial 'perks' which conventional 'stick&bricks do, which initially may not seem like a big deal BUT down the road it could be devistating.
Although the next real estate 'crash' is coming I doubt it will look like that of 2008. If one is of retirement age OR can work from home... the possibilities for affordable housing increase... because the further from a major hub you move, the more affordable (typically) things get. Also.. With some homework one can make an educated guess as to what currently depressed areas might turn around and become desirable. Study the *Lehigh Acres* debacle in Florida. The housing crash was a disaster for that area... BUT... things COULD turn around. In the meantime one has the opportunity to buy in at a reasonable price. There are no guarantees obviously...there is risk involved. Then again even a neighborhood that currently LOOKS solid could eventually fail. Gotta do the homework.
Seven years ago, we purchased our 1930s-1940 house. Paid $69,000 for 1,,800(approx.) square feet. Calculates to about $40 a square foot. Renovating ourselves, we figure $10,000 for materials. That figured in, about $45 per square foot. We sit on two lots. BTW, we live in rural Oklahoma
@@1tlb0k if we calculate selling our house at $150,000, more than double the cost an renovation, that is still $84. There are so many factors that play into the overall cost of a house. When I watch shows on new builds, there are so many things I wouldn't pick (half because of cost, half because the more complicated things become, the more costly the repair). I hate the fact that when people get approved for X amount for a loan, they think they have to buy a house at that price. I've delivered appliances to houses that were twice as big as mine, yet only two people live in then. It was fascinating to research the average square foot of a new house build from 1940 to 2020.
@@strangersolz totally agree on these points. I have never purchased a home according yo my approved amount. Rather going for what I could afford & never regretted it. Always purchased homes in the low 1950 yr build range as I like the charm and they have lots of optional for improvements as I was able to do without a equity loan. That said, my part of the country is selling very remote small lots for literally over $100,000 - totally crazy. And homes well find ine for less than 250,000, in remote areas, and they are virtually falling down with serious neglect. Sounds like your area is atill mre reasonable. I have considered relocation options, but at my age I wish to be within a day's drive from my only adult child... Glad for you! I have not given up on finding an affordable residence... appreciated the exchange with you. Well wishes ~
Cost per sq.ft. is extremely misleading when the denominator in the equation (square footage) gets small. Additionally, consider that kitchen/bath costs per sq.ft. are high, yet bonus room space over a garage is quite low. Smaller homes, cottages, tiny houses don't have low cost square footage such as bonus rooms. I'd shy away from making it about $/sq.ft., it just simply isn't the baseline metric to use for smaller residences as compared to typical mid-density suburban housing.
Houses are intentionally built close together to save money. First, land is becoming more and more expensive. The 1/2 acre lot my parents bought over 60 years ago for less than $2,000 is now valued at close to $200,000... with no building on it. *Granted it's always about Location, Location, Location. Also by building closer the utilities such as water and sewage can be more easily shared... saving quite a bit of money for the developer.
I did like the tiny house concept, but I just don't know how practical that would be for my age. As an older person, climbing a ladder into a loft to go to sleep is ok for a weekend, but not as a way of life. A cottage is like an apartment. It's just a single one instead of stacked on top of each other. I did think that a tiny home had to be moveable. But I see campers bigger than some tiny homes. But that's just MY opinion. To each, his own.
Likely each town's building dept. has its own definition of what is "tiny" and what is small. What I think is grossly UNFAIR is a town that INSISTS that a home be rather large just to qualify for a building permit. Many Towns won't even ALLOW a 600 sqft home on a foundation.. which imho qualifies as a SMALL home.. not a tiny home. Many retirees would be very comfortable in a 600 sqft house... especially if it had a basement for utilities and storage... as they do in the Northeast.
by legal definition tiny homes are either on wheels ( type of rv ) or on foundation. key point 400 sq ft or less. try getting hgtv and competitors to understand that. cottage is a style . really frilly cabins that are technically tiny houses on foundations become COTTAGE because a snooty snotty person put frilly girl in love with her estrogen decorating in place to " stage it ". as you can tell i have issues. deal with it. lol.
I don't think you can really compare the 2. A tiny house you can move so depending on your situation that option will be better for some. My thing is what is the point of buying a tiny house that would be a big hassle to move if had to.
All depends. Some Tiny Homes are SO small that they have been stolen. On the plus side.. some have been saved from forest fires and floods by hooking them up to a hefty pick up truck. Again.. some Tiny Homes are ONLY 125 to 200 sf. These cottages being shown are "mansions" in comparison.
The bigger volume i build/buy, the less surface per cubik meter (1) it has. That's where the econo of scale for bigger houses per sqft come from. And it will heat more easy per sqft. 'Elephant vs. Colibri' - an elefant is way more efficient (surface per volume) - that's why he can live on gras, not requiring 'liquid sugars every minute for immediate response'. But i need to have money first to be free for more efficient choices - a pitty sometimes. 1 - because people have a volume, they live on such. Drawings only live on two dimensions.
That's where the 'sacrifice' comes in. To get out from under high rents/mortgages... one typically needs some start up money. That means being creative. I know a determined woman who had gone through a divorce and ended up with just enough house equity (split at divorce) to buy a few acres in the boonies, (seller financed, payed it off in a few years), ordered a small log cabin KIT, and LIVED IN A TENT while constructing it... almost all on her own. That first few years were tough to say the least but eventually it a came together, and she was out from under a mortgage. Yes, she still had taxes, but the area was undeveloped except for electricity. She had a well drilled, and a septic system installed. To say the property has grown in value is an understatement. A real "blood, sweat, and tears" investment. 👌
It seems reasonable that a tiny house is more expensive per square foot than a large home. Many tiny homes have a: full bathroom, full kitchen, full bedroom, more than 1 closet, many windows if smaller, stairs, large loft, steel bed and wheels, Etc. If I build 2 houses that are identical in size, and the 1st has 1 bathroom and the 2nd has 2. The 1st has very few rooms that are larger, and the 2nd has many smaller rooms. The latter is going to cost significantly more per square foot. I am dreaming of 'not a small home' but still only two bathrooms and one standard size kitchen and two bedrooms.
You mentioned that you are going to want some land, but a tiny home could be too small. I get the feeling you don't want to live in a sub-division with neighbors 30 feet away. Buy your Cottage of choice and put it on the amount of land that you want. What might be cheaper than a Cottage, could be a Cabin to live in on your land.
Cottages have more amenities included in their buildings and larger rooms and larger appliances and some include washers and dryers and some include porches i there selling prices where as a tiny home charges you extra for those items on top of their price tiny homes and cottage homes both can be on trailers so they can be moved that’s the only difference I see ❤😂
I prefer the tiny home but I would love to have it on foundation. When I say Tiny, I want something that has all the things we need, but doesn't have to look like a shoe box. I like the functionality of a tiny home. Cottages are nice though
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The cottages are really nice, but way too close to each other. It would be like in an apartment building - knowing what your neighbors are doing all the time, and they knowing what you are doing. Privacy... gone. Living in New York right now, would love a house with some space around it, trees, and a pond or a stream... dreaming...
Give it a few years and tiny homes will be in the dustbin of history. Especially the stupid half height lofts in many tiny homes. Zoning regulations and other impediments to tiny homes aside, most people need more space than a tiny home. Probably most, if not all, tiny homeowners have to get a storage shed or rent storage space. I do enjoy the creativity of tiny homes, lots of good ideas that anyone can use.
I don't call these cottages tiny homes. When the tiny home movement started they were on wheels and say they leave less of a carbon foot print but since they have money they travel a lot as they say. so much for a tiny carbon footprint. People are using tiny homes for everything now trying to sell them to people. The price of these are ridiculous I believe. You are afforded two parking spots, are they by your cottage and is there no garages with them? Love the video and the cup you sent me Kristina, it's my soup bowl now. Have a great weekend,.
Strangely enough... many only want the "movability " option because that puts them in a totally different tax situation. It's taxed AS a vehicle not a house. This is one reason many towns frown on them. Tiny Houses historically do not 'pay their way' when it comes to infrastructure. THEN again, typically you're not adding many or any children to the school roles.. so there are trade offs. Imho there needs to be more equitable tax and zoning plans when it comes to dealing with truly Tiny structures... such as 250 sqft. Towns are just now starting to deal properly with this "Tiny House" phenomenon. The days of the mega-mansion are OVER... normal people NEED decent, affordable housing. Tiny, and Small homes done correctly can be part of the answer. Having to live out of a Prius should NOT be acceptable. 😕 Instead of trying to colonize Mars... first let's fix THIS planet.
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I want less sq footage than these cottages have. I want the financial freedom of a Tiny home, so if these carry a large mortgage, I'm not interested. But I do like the community aspect, and the joint efforts with solar and water reuse. I'd like a Tiny village, but those are rare and not where I have a business. So.... I'm looking for land.
Expandable Homes with a floor plan and lot that has Intelligent design floor future expansion. 😁😉👌
Definitely a cottage. Our home is 1650 sq ft, and though I LOVE IT, there’s quite a bit of unused space, so I COULD go smaller, but not so sure about a tiny home.
The cottages are simply smaller homes similar to many older homes in my town. The cottages seem more sensible for families, with more storage and more interior privacy. Developments like the one you featured would be really nice for elderly people...no yard to maintain, yet enough space for their children and grandchildren to visit.
Now, Thats a very good point!
Exactly, when I retire and move back home to Louisiana within the next 5 or so years, this is exactly what I want. Builders in the recent past don't seem to build this type of house (small with luxury/high end type of amenities), but every town in America has neighborhoods from the early 20th Century with small houses, and nice architectural features. Maybe this will be a trend.
I was reading an article where a nursing home and university shared a space and that made it possible for the resident students to have a caring relationship with the nursing home residents. It was very sweet and beneficial for both parties
To me, the current definition of a tiny home is a fancy camper or small trailer home with home-like exterior trim and siding. These homes have camper-like layouts but with tall ceilings and large windows. It's permanent camper living for people who want more privacy and outdoor living within a touch of roughing it on a small budget. To some folks it represents a sort of pioneer like freedom. The lifestyle is sometimes referred to as glam camping or glamping.
A small home or cottage has real rooms with full height ceilings and conventional bathrooms and kitchens. It can be a manufactured home or modular or stick built, but doesn't skimp on conventional home features and doesn't necessarily need to be on a large lot. It tends to attract folks who want a second home or young couples on a budget or older folks wanting to downsize.
I want a cottage like those
Those are in N. Carolina. Do you live out that way?
@@KristinaSmallhorn aww no I'm in middle Tennessee...send blueprints!
Find me a developer who actually wants to build cottage homes. Huge demand for them and yet no one is building them. I thought it was pretty obvious tiny homes are basically closets on wheels. America has gone off the RAILS with huge houses and bloated mortgages. We have to go back to traditional, normal sized homes.
Cottage home kitchen looks really cute
(7:07) Those two blue cottage home is super cute, positive energy and cozy looking. I prefer the cottage or old timeless cottage from the 1920-1940 over the the modern tiny house any day.
The cottages and tiny homes are two different things. I would like to settle for a cottage because I prefer to have bigger space without paying a higher price. Excellent presentation, and looking forward to watch all the videos now.
I wish there was more if these instead of shared wall condos
Please take a look at the channel, Living Big in a Tiny House, and you will see homes that are designer homes. I haven’t seen one tiny sink or tiny faucet yet.
Those cottages are adorable. I also want to add that I LOVE the way that you end your videos.
Thank You so much. I will be out in N. Carolina in February visiting a tiny home builder. Be on the lookout for those videos next month.
The term cottage is WAY more appealing.
Thank you ma'am, this is very informative.
i want to a 3 story cottage home/art studio with a basement. The basement and first floor would be dark stained wood with cast iron hinges and the doors wood be arched and gotta have a spiral staircase.
Soooo. Not a 'retirement' home I gather.
Spiral staircases can be Artsy, but not conducive to Old Age living. Eventually people either replace them OR have to move.
Thanx for your honesty.
Merry 🎄
From my understanding, tiny homes are under 399 SF to be legally classified as such for tax purposes. They are considered to be under RV regs. Let's have the best of both worlds - a cottage on a couple acres!
I want 3 tiny homes on 2 acres of land. Thats the dream.
@@KristinaSmallhorn My goal at this point in my life (just turned 70) is to separate my property into 2 lots, keeping 1 1/2 acres (half acre requirement out here in TN). The house I'm in is 2 stories and I don't need that anymore. I'm looking at the Falcon modular (!) home built by Oak Creek Homes. I want to make kitchen and laundry room mods, but it's pretty cool as is. Do a review on it!
Ditto. Lol.
I agree with the 399sf measure to qualify as a Tiny Home.... some are even 125sf... perhaps they should be called "micro" homes... or coffins?
We had a beach house that was 520sf .. I'd consider that a SMALL cottage rather
than tiny.
For me personally the whole idea of either a tiny or small house would primarily be about Affordability. If it doesn't save you money... what's the point?
Also, for me personally.. a house does NOT have wheels on it. I want a solid foundation... and preferably a basement.. for storage.. (and storm shelter) would be desirable.. sitting on my own land of at least 2 acres.
Being rural one would likely be needing a septic system and an artesian well so with that kind of investment. building Small vs Tiny just makes more sense.
Right now I have a 'decent' sized, modest 3 bedroom colonial. When the kids were home I did wish we had a larger home... however.. now that it's just us I REALLY do appreciate the lower tax bill. Just one of many practical Life Trade Offs. We've always been mortgage free and that is worth a LOT to us.
One reason I would consider a true tiny house... or even (gasp) a trailer.. or a yurt, would be as a temporary dwelling while getting my mortgage free small retirement house built. Some things are worth making sacrifices for. Financial peace of mind is high on my list. You can put up with a lot IF it's temporary and the pay off is great enough.
I want to one day try to buy my mother a cottage home. ❤
I like the cottages, BUT, on a piece of land ringed by trees and a moat, and ninja racoons. Also amenities, of course! No more than 15 min from a grocery store, a library, a craft store and delivery pizza (gotta pay the racoons!)
THOW cost so much per sq.ft. because everything is custom by independent contractor. You can't always find premade vanities etc from big box stores that will fit. Also, RV's are mass produced in a warehouse with pre molded parts. It's basically a very nice, high quality, better insulated less carbon footprint RV. And long run is significantly less expensive. One thing not mentioned: taxes. THOW is classified as an Recreational VEHICLE and is taxed as such. "Cottage" is really a house and is taxed as such. That community is really just overpriced small houses. Especially considering how little land comes with it. Is there a HOA? That would be such a deal breaker.
Yes, there is an HOA, That would be the deal breaker for many people.
I'll wait for the market to reset itself before I will buy anything.? These prices are ridiculous 🙄 My first house was 923 ft and I loved it. I now live in a real tiny home ..a travel trailer..and I love it also.. I def couldn't be in a community. I need my space. Thanks again Kristina.
Thank you for watching. Where have you traveled in your tiny home?
@@KristinaSmallhorn All across the Us..from California to where I am now, Georgia. I am a retired RN..all I did was work..now, its playtime.😃
@@debicaron6046 I lived in a few areas of Georgia. Up towards the mountain area is really pretty.
I love the concept of both homes.
The point of the tiny home is so that you don't have to spend money on the ridiculous mortgage. They're beautiful but they are smaller homes/cottage style.
Agreed. Many young people are willing to tolerate a truly Tiny house temporarily... say around 250 sqft... in order to SAVE enough money to eventually build/ buy a larger (wheels free) home. They are a means to an end.
One couple eventually moved into their normally sized home and kept the tiny home as an office. The tiny home made it all possible.
you paid for the house may be pay 60000.00 to 90,000.00 to build and have to pay the landlord for the land and water sew all kind where I live here about 650 per month average go check it out before iump in to any things...
Looks great thanks
I think that maybe the high cost with Chatham Park is maybe because of the location in Raleigh Research Triangle region. Love to know that a traditional stick-built house on my own lot in my area would be much less. Thanks for your videos!!! ❤️
I love the thought of both but I think I now love the cottage collection but I would love the smaller size
They’re too large to be considered tiny - I guess cottage it is. I think they’re very cute too...although I’m thinking about long term aging in place - and stairs aren’t the best thing. But, two story homes are popular because they can add more of them in a development compared to single level. So, I’m wondering how many single level home plans will actually be built.
One day I would like to build but not a tiny home. I do love the cottages and their size and function would suit me better. You’ve given me better options to plan for in the future.
If i was rich i would build a lot of communty tiny castles.
I grew up in a neighborhood and all the homes were built post war Only 796 sq feet! It was huge to us! 1/4 acre lots. Seemed normal. Now when I go back for a visit after living on a farm 180 acres , it’s tiny. I told my parents how did we do it.
Yup... everything is relative. 😉
Here it Quebec, it's called a challet. But if it's smaller it's "Le cabin".
Someone come up with a cottage the 55+ age female group can afford. We cannot get a 15-30 yr loan. No one will lend to our age group and $200,000 is still not affordable. Especially with limited income at 55 plus. There’s a zillion women that fall into this category. :/
I definitely feel like tiny homes are a very American concept, but not in a bad way. America traditionally makes large homes, comparing them to other countries, so having different set sizing (tiny homes, small homes and traditional homes) isn’t a bad thing.
In Canada we have cabins and cottages, in Ontario we call them cottages but on the east coast they are called cabins. They are the same thing, both are small traditionally sized homes, some are the size of shacks/stands and have very little inside them.
This is what society needs: villages. These pocket communities surrounding public areas and being near shopping centers and business areas are what we need to thrive. Cottages are wonderful.
A tiny home is a very small dwelling of minimal square feet, (think travel trailer size of 8 ft wide by 18-30 ft long). Inexpensive to build or buy, can be moved , and is designed for simplistic living with minimal expense and a low impact on the environment. The goal being to have a home that is self sufficient, and often off grid by using innovation to supply power water, and heat. The homes in this development are not tiny homes, but are small homes or cottages. The manufactured "tiny home " is in reality a park model manufactured home, that is much larger than a tiny home, and is more designed for a park community with needed grid connections to power, sewer, and water.
not a chance you only have 1 cup in that cabinetry. and I love these little cottages there so pretty and seem to have a little more space plus there is such a beautiful area , 6,13 hahahaah don't look behind you
Me 👀 looking behind.
I would go for a cottage. Number one, I don't want to stoop when I go to bed and I bet making the bed in a loft is a bear, not to mention climbing up and down ladders....knowing what I do about composting toilets for a long term choice...uh, NO. Also worry about how would you escape a tiny home in case of fire inside. But a big one is in colder climates having the pipes freeze and cold floors and critters getting underneath.
Cottage not tiny homes - I agree tiny homes are more a way of life. These cottages are just going smaller but remaining in a tight community.
The cottages are sitting on a "lot" the footprint of my ranch home. Fortunately, my house is on 2 1/2 acres.
Tiny Homes typically are limited to no more than 8.5 feet wide due to National Highway, Transportation & Safety Administration criteria.
That being said, there are some homes that have pop outs for expansion and I myself have designed an expandable Tiny Home Design that nearly doubles its size when parked or set on foundation.
I see these cottage communities as wanting a smaller home (downsize, eco footprint, etc) but also, as you said, a different lifestyle. They want community as in: easier access to potlucks, getting to know your neighbors, being able to reach your neighbors in a few footsteps and not several blocks. If the houses are scaled down, you lose some privacy but you gain a group of people committed to spending time together with the access that makes it much more possible.
At least, that’s the gist of what I’m seeing is the goal of the cottage communities.
cottage court with my chosen family is my dream!
I want a modular cottage home that I can customize myself and put anywhere I want.
Right... and preferably NOT within an HOA. 😬
another HUGE difference is that (most) tiny homes are built indvidually for their owners needs, there´s nothing thats too crazy - sauna? genuine italian pizza oven? a place for your hammock right in your lounge area? - whereas with these cottages, you have to pick from 2(!) standard floorplans and no say in the layout of your kitchen, bathroom or any other feature.
You should check out the tiny homes sold by Recreational Resort Cottages in TX. Most of them are 399 sf, but some are up to 780 sf
So, I think a tiny house is anything under 600 square feet. Many people make tiny homes on wheels because it's easier to do legally. You may be surprised to learn that building a tiny home on a foundation on a piece of land is often actually illegal. Anyways, tiny homes vary greatly in terms of price per square foot. Some people make their entire build mostly by themselves and with upcycled materials, resulting in some amazing builds for 60k and under. Not ALL tiny homes are on wheels, though, and may be re-purposed garages or cottage or cabin-looking dwellings that just happen to be under 600 square feet.
Most "cottages" I find are somewhere between 700-1000 square feet. Small, but not "tiny". I think the only REAL difference is one of size, and perhaps "style". Tiny homes may be under 600 square feet, but they are not confined to a "cottage" style or ANY style. I've seen some pretty cool cob tiny homes! Also, people who go tiny often want to experience more of the world and travel. Others want to invest in some land and build a permanent structure on it. Regardless, most I've seen like to have their own little spot that feels private and not crowded.
I've seen some seriously decked out "tiny house" kitchens that have all full-sized appliances and rival kitchens in many large houses I've seen!
These cottages are lovely but incredibly expensive. It's still my dream to eventually get some land and build a tiny permanent structure on it.
id love to build or buy a cottage, not a tiny home.
Try buying in the UK. I'm currently staying in a very average area, and a cottage/tiny home just a short walk way is staring at US$400k for 762 sqft.
If we’re gonna move around then a tiny home. They seem more mobile. However I would like a cottage (even though they seem more tiny home)
The actual name for movable tiny homes is PMRV.
@@KristinaSmallhorn oh yeah that’s right
Hi Kristina. Do these modular homes consist of a back door? Did you see back doors when you did a tour?
I believe most building codes REQUIRE 2 egresses for fire safety.
No, the homes in the subdivision are regular houses - some are just small houses. A tiny home is something completely different. The subdivision houses are very nice, but they're also right on top of each other. I appreciate that they're energy efficient and plan on using recycled grey-water for irrigation, etc., but they are still regular 'homes'. To me, a 'tiny home' is one that you can put on your own land - as much as you have - and are actually 'tiny' - 600 sq. ft or less. It all depends on one's preference, whichever they choose, but there are differences.
I agree.
I like the cottages better but what is the cost
Doesn’t it have to do with hauling on road capabilities for 8 ft width?
Typically yes
These cottages would be great for young adults wanting more room than an apartment or a growing family of 1 to 2 kids that either can’t afford or don’t need a larger 3 or 4 bedroom house yet.
Cottage 2 story.
Nice video. I agree with many of your points except size. There may be definitions that use 600 sqft, but the reality is that the tiny homes we see today are around 200 to 300 sqft. Even the examples you showed are that small, or smaller. I think what you said about having an actual kitchen, bedroom, bath etc, is the key. The ability to build rooms into your house starts around 400 sqft. At that point, your structure more resembles a house than a camper. The 600 sqft number comes about because even though you can build a house in 400 sqft, after you add the barest of amenities, like utility room, closets, etc, you get to 600 sqft. Likewise, in the tiny (camper) world, 400 is too large and thus they tend towards 200 to 300 sqft. So maybe there is a gap between 400 and 600 because 400 is too much room for a camper and too little for a house. The prices are nuts, but that is due to marketing and the fact that the market for tiny homes is such a weird niche. Tiny homes could be made the same cost per sqft as regular homes, but there isn't a market for them. Sure, some couple is saying "I would buy a tiny home if it was priced the same per sqft as regular homes!" But that same couple could buy a trailer at those low prices, but they don't because they don't want to live in a trailer park. And a neighborhood of cheap tiny homes would be a trailer park. So tiny homes are ironically a luxury item. Unless of course you go off and build or contract your own at real prices.
What state is this cottage home community in?
You might wanna look at the incredible tiny home site they are building tiny homes and putting them on land with the owners deposit so you kind of get both but it is you paying a deposit and then eventualIy rent.
@Kristina Smallhorn, where’d you buy that mug? I’m in Louisiana too.
Kristina Thanks for All The Information. DO You Have A Email access to send questions?
If you look in the description of the video or in the about section of my channel it has my email addresses.
I think I’ll stick with my affordable 2000 Skyline at $30 sq. ft. Ah those cottages are cute but then again I was 45 years ago. Btw Kristina great work out equipment in the background. 😊👍
The gym in the background is a gorilla gym, its super fun for the kids on rainy days.
@@KristinaSmallhorn lol.. it looked like the TRX system. That is great!! Boy I wish a lot of parents would be that conscientious of their children’s physical health. 👍
@@ourvlife1 we rain so much here that they need to get out the energy out somehow. It’s better than plopped In front of the TV.
One thing I would consider is Sellability. While some types of homes Appreciate in value, others Depreciate in value.
Some 'modular' homes etc. do not qualify for certain financial 'perks' which conventional 'stick&bricks do, which initially may not seem like a big deal BUT down the road it could be devistating.
I live in a most rural, remote eastern Oregon community and dated homes here are $200 a sq ft. Where can someone get a home for $100 sq fr?!
Although the next real estate 'crash' is coming I doubt it will look like that of 2008.
If one is of retirement age OR can work from home... the possibilities for affordable housing increase... because the further from a major hub you move, the more affordable (typically) things get.
Also.. With some homework one can make an educated guess as to what currently depressed areas might turn around and become desirable. Study the *Lehigh Acres* debacle in Florida. The housing crash was a disaster for that area... BUT... things COULD turn around. In the meantime one has the opportunity to buy in at a reasonable price. There are no guarantees obviously...there is risk involved. Then again even a neighborhood that currently LOOKS solid could eventually fail. Gotta do the homework.
Seven years ago, we purchased our 1930s-1940 house. Paid $69,000 for 1,,800(approx.) square feet. Calculates to about $40 a square foot. Renovating ourselves, we figure $10,000 for materials. That figured in, about $45 per square foot. We sit on two lots. BTW, we live in rural Oklahoma
@@strangersolz thank you for your response, but that was 7 years ago. What wd a home cost today?
@@1tlb0k if we calculate selling our house at $150,000, more than double the cost an renovation, that is still $84.
There are so many factors that play into the overall cost of a house. When I watch shows on new builds, there are so many things I wouldn't pick (half because of cost, half because the more complicated things become, the more costly the repair).
I hate the fact that when people get approved for X amount for a loan, they think they have to buy a house at that price. I've delivered appliances to houses that were twice as big as mine, yet only two people live in then. It was fascinating to research the average square foot of a new house build from 1940 to 2020.
@@strangersolz totally agree on these points. I have never purchased a home according yo my approved amount. Rather going for what I could afford & never regretted it. Always purchased homes in the low 1950 yr build range as I like the charm and they have lots of optional for improvements as I was able to do without a equity loan. That said, my part of the country is selling very remote small lots for literally over $100,000 - totally crazy. And homes well find ine for less than 250,000, in remote areas, and they are virtually falling down with serious neglect. Sounds like your area is atill mre reasonable. I have considered relocation options, but at my age I wish to be within a day's drive from my only adult child... Glad for you! I have not given up on finding an affordable residence... appreciated the exchange with you. Well wishes ~
Cost per sq.ft. is extremely misleading when the denominator in the equation (square footage) gets small. Additionally, consider that kitchen/bath costs per sq.ft. are high, yet bonus room space over a garage is quite low. Smaller homes, cottages, tiny houses don't have low cost square footage such as bonus rooms. I'd shy away from making it about $/sq.ft., it just simply isn't the baseline metric to use for smaller residences as compared to typical mid-density suburban housing.
If I was going to pay that much for one of those cottage homes, there better be a backyard garage not just some "deeded parking spaces" down the road.
Why are they built so close to each other??
Houses are intentionally built close together to save money. First, land is becoming more and more expensive. The 1/2 acre lot my parents bought over 60 years ago for less than $2,000 is now valued at close to $200,000... with no building on it. *Granted it's always about Location, Location, Location.
Also by building closer the utilities such as water and sewage can be more easily shared... saving quite a bit of money for the developer.
I did like the tiny house concept, but I just don't know how practical that would be for my age. As an older person, climbing a ladder into a loft to go to sleep is ok for a weekend, but not as a way of life. A cottage is like an apartment. It's just a single one instead of stacked on top of each other. I did think that a tiny home had to be moveable. But I see campers bigger than some tiny homes. But that's just MY opinion. To each, his own.
To me a tiny home is anything on wheels. 'Cottages' 'çontainer homes' 'yurts' and what not are tiny houses.
Likely each town's building dept. has its own definition of what is "tiny" and what is small. What I think is grossly UNFAIR is a town that INSISTS that a home be rather large just to qualify for a building permit. Many Towns won't even ALLOW a 600 sqft home on a foundation.. which imho qualifies as a SMALL home.. not a tiny home.
Many retirees would be very comfortable in a 600 sqft house... especially if it had a basement for utilities and storage... as they do in the Northeast.
by legal definition
tiny homes are either on wheels ( type of rv )
or on foundation.
key point 400 sq ft or less.
try getting hgtv and competitors to understand that.
cottage is a style . really frilly cabins that are technically tiny houses on foundations become COTTAGE
because a snooty snotty person put frilly girl in love with her estrogen decorating in place to " stage it ".
as you can tell i have issues.
deal with it. lol.
😅😅😂 Hey.. ((🌷Frilly🌸)) happens. Just say No. 🐗
I don't think you can really compare the 2. A tiny house you can move so depending on your situation that option will be better for some. My thing is what is the point of buying a tiny house that would be a big hassle to move if had to.
All depends. Some Tiny Homes are SO small that they have been stolen. On the plus side.. some have been saved from forest fires and floods by hooking them up to a hefty pick up truck. Again.. some Tiny Homes are ONLY 125 to 200 sf.
These cottages being shown are "mansions" in comparison.
I want “the Cottage home”. I’m a retired, empty nester. I don’t want the upkeep of a larger home anymore for just myself.
The bigger volume i build/buy, the less surface per cubik meter (1) it has. That's where the econo of scale for bigger houses per sqft come from. And it will heat more easy per sqft. 'Elephant vs. Colibri' - an elefant is way more efficient (surface per volume) - that's why he can live on gras, not requiring 'liquid sugars every minute for immediate response'.
But i need to have money first to be free for more efficient choices - a pitty sometimes.
1 - because people have a volume, they live on such. Drawings only live on two dimensions.
That's where the 'sacrifice' comes in. To get out from under high rents/mortgages... one typically needs some start up money. That means being creative. I know a determined woman who had gone through a divorce and ended up with just enough house equity (split at divorce) to buy a few acres in the boonies, (seller financed, payed it off in a few years), ordered a small log cabin KIT, and LIVED IN A TENT while constructing it... almost all on her own.
That first few years were tough to say the least but eventually it a came together, and she was out from under a mortgage. Yes, she still had taxes, but the area was undeveloped except for electricity. She had a well drilled, and a septic system installed.
To say the property has grown in value is an understatement. A real "blood, sweat, and tears" investment. 👌
It seems reasonable that a tiny house is more expensive per square foot than a large home.
Many tiny homes have a:
full bathroom,
full kitchen,
full bedroom,
more than 1 closet,
many windows if smaller,
stairs,
large loft,
steel bed and wheels,
Etc.
If I build 2 houses that are identical in size, and the 1st has 1 bathroom and the 2nd has 2. The 1st has very few rooms that are larger, and the 2nd has many smaller rooms.
The latter is going to cost significantly more per square foot.
I am dreaming of 'not a small home' but still only two bathrooms and one standard size kitchen and two bedrooms.
You mentioned that you are going to want some land, but a tiny home could be too small. I get the feeling you don't want to live in a sub-division with neighbors 30 feet away. Buy your Cottage of choice and put it on the amount of land that you want.
What might be cheaper than a Cottage, could be a Cabin to live in on your land.
Cottages have more amenities included in their buildings and larger rooms and larger appliances and some include washers and dryers and some include porches i there selling prices where as a tiny home charges you extra for those items on top of their price tiny homes and cottage homes both can be on trailers so they can be moved that’s the only difference I see ❤😂
Can we have a cottage on a large piece of land?
3 cottages on two acres of land.
Just because you’re approved for a mortgage, doesn’t mean you have to use the full amount you’re approved for.
Deifferent homes altogether.
I prefer the tiny home but I would love to have it on foundation. When I say Tiny, I want something that has all the things we need, but doesn't have to look like a shoe box. I like the functionality of a tiny home. Cottages are nice though
The cottages are really nice, but way too close to each other. It would be like in an apartment building - knowing what your neighbors are doing all the time, and they knowing what you are doing. Privacy... gone. Living in New York right now, would love a house with some space around it, trees, and a pond or a stream... dreaming...
Give it a few years and tiny homes will be in the dustbin of history. Especially the stupid half height lofts in many tiny homes. Zoning regulations and other impediments to tiny homes aside, most people need more space than a tiny home. Probably most, if not all, tiny homeowners have to get a storage shed or rent storage space. I do enjoy the creativity of tiny homes, lots of good ideas that anyone can use.
I don't call these cottages tiny homes. When the tiny home movement started they were on wheels and say they leave less of a carbon foot print but since they have money they travel a lot as they say. so much for a tiny carbon footprint. People are using tiny homes for everything now trying to sell them to people. The price of these are ridiculous I believe. You are afforded two parking spots, are they by your cottage and is there no garages with them? Love the video and the cup you sent me Kristina, it's my soup bowl now. Have a great weekend,.
Glad you liked the gumbo cup!!
I... kinda want a cross between them both
Right. In-between both would be perfect.
No not a tiny home its a cottage just bigger especially 1300 sq ft
A tiny home should not be moooovabel. Otherwise you would call it a mobile home.
Strangely enough... many only want the "movability " option because that puts them in a totally different tax situation.
It's taxed AS a vehicle not a house.
This is one reason many towns frown on them. Tiny Houses historically do not 'pay their way' when it comes to infrastructure. THEN again, typically you're not adding many or any children to the school roles.. so there are trade offs.
Imho there needs to be more equitable tax and zoning plans when it comes to dealing with truly Tiny structures... such as 250 sqft. Towns are just now starting to deal properly with this "Tiny House" phenomenon. The days of the mega-mansion are OVER... normal people NEED decent, affordable housing. Tiny, and Small homes done correctly can be part of the answer. Having to live out of a Prius should NOT be acceptable. 😕 Instead of trying to colonize Mars... first let's fix THIS planet.
Love these cottages! I bet they are more than $200 per sq ft in 2024
If a cottage is twice the size of a tiny home they are definitely not the same thing.
I would not choose any of these at this location.
They do not look like either to me.
I would call those cottages small homes not tiny homes....
Oh these are EXPENSIVE cottages,not tiny homes.
For sure.
Absolutely cottqge very uncomfortable in tiny house word tiny already tell you how uncomfortable...
These are not my idea of cottages.
You can build some yourself and pay waaaayyyyy less!
One has cheese the other doesn't
Like... One has cheese, while the other is cheezie? 😅😝🤔
Jeez you're close to the camera. Back up.
Smaller is better
Well, up to a point anyway. I draw the line at 125sqft Micro houses. 😬
SNEER much?