You forgot Linford of Stinchcomb who invented the skele-grow and pepperup potions. His nickname was "the potterer" which was shortened to potter. His son married Ignotus Peverel's grand-daughter
This was surprising. When there was only one left I thought to myself "will it be Snape or Borage?", but it was neither. Rowling herself has called Libatius Borage "one of the world's most famous potioneers", so I was expecting him to be on the list, but he wasn't even among the honorable mentions.
Peter was really a powerful wizard when you look at what he actually accomplished instead of his personality. He was able to become a animagus, draft a potion of regeneration and the spell he used to fake his death was very powerful. He spent a lifetime as a rat not using magic without development of an obscurus and then when he did take human form again he was quickly able to readjust to using magic.
I understand the list. When I saw the list I was asking myself- Where is the Half Blood Prince? So you have mentioned in honorable mentions nice. Although I think that in modern times, he is even greater than Horace Slughorn and Lord Voldemort in making potions. Honorable mention should be Barty Crouch Jr., as he was able to broom a Polyjuce potion with accuracy. Which is according to Hermione one of the hardest potions ever to broom (in my words same idea).
@@stevorules1820 Yeah the prince was the best of his time. Look how much Harry was successful thanks to his book. Also he is my favorite character in the franchise.
@@logic_bot3753 Of course Lily was a great potioneer but Slughorn as much as I like him he is kind of biased. I think the prince was better because he had an excellent potion making book. The same book made Harry seem like he was worth something in potions when in reality he was suck. Snape had better written instructions that his classes. Snape was bad in teaching potions. He treated it as making a Cake almost. Because he gave the students the recipe with the ingredients, temperatures...and expected them to create it perfectly without explaining. Slughorn wasn't much better but at least he didn't bully the students like Snape.
@@eranshachar9954 Harry never sucked in potion he still got E in potion O.W.L. but remember slughorn thought that harry was so good at it because he was lily's son. So, that means lily was instinctually as good as harry using snape's book. While snape needed to do many trials and errors in his way to write those instructions. And slughorn was biased in blood purity but he still considered lily the best student. The thing about the Harry Potter series is that we never saw the potential of most of the best students of that generation because they were all either dead, in jail or, a wearwolf 😂
I think its because alchemy is a different field of magic to potion making. Although in practice they seem similar, potion making in about mixing different ingredients together in liquid to create a liquid concoction, whereas alchemy is about combining different elements together or to change their properties into something else, which although can involve the use of equipment to achieve doesn't necessarily have to be brewed like potions.
This may sound stupid but would potioneers make great cooks? They are adept at using complex ingredients and preparations in potions which would be good prerequisites for cooking.
I am still upset that all of Snape's potion research was lost with that textbook in the fire up in the room of requirement. Harry should have made copy of the annotations in another textbook to preserve all that hard won knowledge!
With enough magical innovation, there is always the possibility of either travelling through time to look at the book or alternatively, if Harry could put some of his memories into the pensieve from when he read the book, someone with a really good memory could slowly but surely recreate the knowledge contained within the book.
Always wondered where Hermione got her power from. When Hector Dagworth Granger was mentioned in book 6, I wondered if that's where Hermione got her power from. Be good if it was true. I have thought that deep in the family trees of the Muggle borns is a magic relative. Just my theory.
Definitely some relation. Most families refused to acknowledge squibs in there families and the Dagworth-Granger's were probably no exception which is why Hermione couldn't prove her relation.
I agree. It could be because most wizards and witches are skilled enough to create an antidote to these types of potions and have the means to do so, and can tell whenever someone is under the influence of a love potion and can deal with it themselves without the ministry needing to get involved. That being said although love potions themselves are not illegal, I think using them on somebody without their consent or foreknowledge and then taking advantage of them (i.e what Merope did to Tom Riddle) I'm sure is very illegal.
I always wondered why harry and hermione never met outside of schools. especially during the summer. they both live in the muggle world. i know they live far but that doesn't mean they can't meet like once or twice a year.
Because of a certain anti magic family harry was staying with Let's face it even though Hermione had muggle parents just her going to hogwarts with harry would be enough for them to never take harry to a meet-up.
Maybe they live too far apart to the point where Harry doesn't have the means to travel to the Granger's home through muggle transportation (he's not allowed to practice magic outside Hogwarts), and Harry isn't exactly keen on letting Hermione meet the Dursleys.
@@barbiquearea all of this is true but remember is half blood prince at the begining he told Albus dumbeldore he liked to take trains. meaning he could take them. also there was always the knight bus in the third movie he could take.
@@LolLol-nn8td The Dursleys don't give him pocket money so he probably can't afford a train ticket, unless he is exchanging his galleons for muggle pounds.
Aside from the more well-known characters in the honorable mentions, I was only familiar with Hector Dagworth-Granger and Fleamont Potter prior to this video.
Interesting that several of them were bullied at school and prefered isolation due to scars of previous abuse. Snape also shared that same fate. Having said that, however, Hogwarts in general was quite an abusive place, and the teachers were known not to take any actions against bullying.
You have forgotten the most important question. Where does magic come from in harry potter, do they have gods,religion as we do? How did it all start, was there just some random guy or girl born with magic and starting to mate with muggles??
May I suggest both Fred and George Weasley? Surely they must have been potions masters in their own right for inventing Fainting Fancies, Puking Pastilles, and Nosebleed Nougat among others.
What happened to Harry's grandparents? I mean, both his parents were very young when they had him and atleast the Potter's were purebloods which would let them become quite old.
He was an alchemist, which is different from potion making. He likely was pretty skilled in potion making due to transferable skills between the two, but we have no records about his work within potions.
agreed, i wonder what he would have done if he survived the war, would he have continiued teaching or been headmaster, would he have retierd from teaching and instead started a career in something else like making spells or potions (both things he was realy gifted in) so many questions. his death shows a completly different personality that we dident know about before and would probably never have known. i wonder if he would have been different to harry if he survived the bite somehow, if i dont remember wrong he mentioned something about seeing a little of lilly in harry at the end but might remember wrong. would probably not been friends but maybe get rid of some of the hatered he was feeling.
@@baldrian22 you are remembering correctly. In answer a lot of fans and I think JKR herself speculated if he had lived he might have grown to surpass even Dumbledore and voldemort. I will say though I have been listening through the books on audio recently and I had a realization about Snape. He protected Harry because of his mother but hated him for his father, why is that it doesn't make much sense. I realized it was because it was easier to hate him for his father and see only his father in Harry despite the fact that Harry takes more after his mother. But if he saw his Lilly in Harry then he would only ever be racket with guilt and pain from what happened. So his mind almost did a defense mechanism to keep him from hurting by only ever seeing James in Harry rather then Lilly and when he died he finally allowed himself to see Lilly in Harry. And was finally able to express the feelings that he should have felt long ago. Anyway it was just a realization I had thinking about how strange it is for him to only ever hate Harry while still thinking of Lilly
Snape although a master potioneer and one that is certainly very innovative doesn't seem to have created his own unique potions that we know of. I don't think he has ever won the Golden Cauldron so maybe that's why he doesn't rank higher.
I mean it’s also the fact that he didn’t create potions. He was extremely gifted at potions, but his creativity was in spells, not potions. The ones on this list were truly generational talents that changed life for the whole wizarding world.
@@EdolasMystogan that’s what gifted means. He was able to improve some potion steps that others already invented. But that doesn’t make him the top of his field… Linfred created Skele-gro, and pepper up, 2 drastically more useful inventions than simply improving some steps of a recipe, and he wasn’t even on this list. So no, Snape did not belong here. Now, if you want to argue potential, sure, of course Snape COULD HAVE possibly done great things in the future if he tried. But at the end of the day, he did NOT do so. It’s not a knock against him. He had other things to worry about. But take away your feelings, and what-ifs, and at the end of the day, fact is he is not a top 5 potioneer. He was a potions professor who was talented at a young age. That’s not worthy of a top 5 ever period.
Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
If i had millions of dollars I'd buy land and build Hogwarts. I'd even make it a school for middle to high school students. I would send acceptance letters out randomly to random families free admission every year. That way it wouldn't matter how rich, poor, smart or dumb you are. I also would probably call it a different name with different houses. As for quidditch it would be ⚽ and 🏈 maybe some other sports
no, what he said was a "one of my brightest students was muggle born" Never even mentioned her name. "One of" does not indicate the best. Additionally, just because you can follow instructions and make all the potions correctly does not make you a potions master. The folks on this list CREATED potions. If you can find where she did that, I'd be inclined to agree with you.
so when Harry was taking the Nightbus in Prisoner of Azkaban and says to Stan Shunpike, "..Leaky Cauldron, that's in London" , that didn't clue you in? LOL
Could have been a different London. Watching the movies just feels like a fantasy world. There's dragons, unicorns, giant beasts, Hogwarts, flying car, flying broomsticks.
slughorn asked hermoine about relation with hector she denied it and said sir u see i am a muggleborn she didnt even know about him for gods sake read books .u just cant just watch movies and start a yt info channel.
You forgot Linford of Stinchcomb who invented the skele-grow and pepperup potions. His nickname was "the potterer" which was shortened to potter. His son married Ignotus Peverel's grand-daughter
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This was surprising. When there was only one left I thought to myself "will it be Snape or Borage?", but it was neither. Rowling herself has called Libatius Borage "one of the world's most famous potioneers", so I was expecting him to be on the list, but he wasn't even among the honorable mentions.
Peter was really a powerful wizard when you look at what he actually accomplished instead of his personality. He was able to become a animagus, draft a potion of regeneration and the spell he used to fake his death was very powerful. He spent a lifetime as a rat not using magic without development of an obscurus and then when he did take human form again he was quickly able to readjust to using magic.
Well when you put it like that
"but we'll have to talk about that, in another video."
Left it on a cliffhanger, nice.
Haven't even seen the whole video yet but I already know it's going to be good, keep it up man!
Wonderful content as always! I like the details that you provided for some of the more obscure characters!
Everyone time I see your videos I'm like.
"Nigga what book is that from? I thought I read all the Harry Potter books." 🤣
Loved the video always learn so much my friends call me a Harry Potter nerd thank you for being a teacher and an entertainer keep up the videos
I play Hogwarts Mystery, can tell that Penny Haywood is one great potioneer as well even as a young student, a protege of the subject.
Same!
Yep
But it's not canon though.
@@doolan0543 Wdym, it is. Loose canon exists byw
@@galacticquasaur2956 what does that mean?
I understand the list. When I saw the list I was asking myself- Where is the Half Blood Prince? So you have mentioned in honorable mentions nice. Although I think that in modern times, he is even greater than Horace Slughorn and Lord Voldemort in making potions. Honorable mention should be Barty Crouch Jr., as he was able to broom a Polyjuce potion with accuracy. Which is according to Hermione one of the hardest potions ever to broom (in my words same idea).
Haha same here. I saw this scrolling through and was like Snape, Half Blood Prince. Then I remembered they're the same lol.
@@stevorules1820 Yeah the prince was the best of his time. Look how much Harry was successful thanks to his book. Also he is my favorite character in the franchise.
@@eranshachar9954 Actually Lily was the best potioneer according to slughorn. Although Snape too was a great potioneer.
@@logic_bot3753 Of course Lily was a great potioneer but Slughorn as much as I like him he is kind of biased. I think the prince was better because he had an excellent potion making book. The same book made Harry seem like he was worth something in potions when in reality he was suck. Snape had better written instructions that his classes. Snape was bad in teaching potions. He treated it as making a Cake almost. Because he gave the students the recipe with the ingredients, temperatures...and expected them to create it perfectly without explaining. Slughorn wasn't much better but at least he didn't bully the students like Snape.
@@eranshachar9954 Harry never sucked in potion he still got E in potion O.W.L. but remember slughorn thought that harry was so good at it because he was lily's son. So, that means lily was instinctually as good as harry using snape's book. While snape needed to do many trials and errors in his way to write those instructions. And slughorn was biased in blood purity but he still considered lily the best student.
The thing about the Harry Potter series is that we never saw the potential of most of the best students of that generation because they were all either dead, in jail or, a wearwolf 😂
I love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Im surprised… but why isn’t Nicolas Flamel on this list?? Im no Potter expert by any account but surely he deserves some place on the list!
I think its because alchemy is a different field of magic to potion making. Although in practice they seem similar, potion making in about mixing different ingredients together in liquid to create a liquid concoction, whereas alchemy is about combining different elements together or to change their properties into something else, which although can involve the use of equipment to achieve doesn't necessarily have to be brewed like potions.
How about the greatest Herbologists, Curse-Breakers, and Aurors in Harry Potter history?
Longbottom, Weasley, moody.... All done ✅.... Lol
Potioneers sound like the White Mages from old video games. Not flashy but vital to progress. So, does that make Aurors the Black Mages?
I loved this video❤️hope you cover more potioneers in next videos❤️
The guy that was using dragon hair to create a hair straightening potion caught dragon pox. I wonder how that happened 😂
Thanks bro! What others come close but aren’t on the list?
I could go for a bit of liquid luck
This may sound stupid but would potioneers make great cooks? They are adept at using complex ingredients and preparations in potions which would be good prerequisites for cooking.
My favorite potioneer is Penny Heywood.
I am still upset that all of Snape's potion research was lost with that textbook in the fire up in the room of requirement.
Harry should have made copy of the annotations in another textbook to preserve all that hard won knowledge!
With enough magical innovation, there is always the possibility of either travelling through time to look at the book or alternatively, if Harry could put some of his memories into the pensieve from when he read the book, someone with a really good memory could slowly but surely recreate the knowledge contained within the book.
Excellent video
That is a really good list and i´m looking forward to the next video on this topic.
Always wondered where Hermione got her power from. When Hector Dagworth Granger was mentioned in book 6, I wondered if that's where Hermione got her power from. Be good if it was true. I have thought that deep in the family trees of the Muggle borns is a magic relative. Just my theory.
I just flat out accepted it. It made sense and hence why Hermione was so adept at potions when she was at Hogwarts.
Definitely some relation. Most families refused to acknowledge squibs in there families and the Dagworth-Granger's were probably no exception which is why Hermione couldn't prove her relation.
Why aren't love potions illegal in the Wizarding world? When you think about it its really not so different from the imperius curse..
I agree. It could be because most wizards and witches are skilled enough to create an antidote to these types of potions and have the means to do so, and can tell whenever someone is under the influence of a love potion and can deal with it themselves without the ministry needing to get involved. That being said although love potions themselves are not illegal, I think using them on somebody without their consent or foreknowledge and then taking advantage of them (i.e what Merope did to Tom Riddle) I'm sure is very illegal.
I think Snape is the most accomplished potion maker and wizard of all time.
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Slughorn made the decision to tell Tom Riddle about the spell
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I'm not sure if this counts, but what about Nicolas Flamel and the elixir of life?
He was an alchemist not a potioneer
I always wondered why harry and hermione never met outside of schools. especially during the summer. they both live in the muggle world. i know they live far but that doesn't mean they can't meet like once or twice a year.
Because of a certain anti magic family harry was staying with
Let's face it even though Hermione had muggle parents just her going to hogwarts with harry would be enough for them to never take harry to a meet-up.
Maybe they live too far apart to the point where Harry doesn't have the means to travel to the Granger's home through muggle transportation (he's not allowed to practice magic outside Hogwarts), and Harry isn't exactly keen on letting Hermione meet the Dursleys.
@@barbiquearea all of this is true but remember is half blood prince at the begining he told Albus dumbeldore he liked to take trains. meaning he could take them. also there was always the knight bus in the third movie he could take.
@@chimera6485 he could easily sneak
out though
@@LolLol-nn8td The Dursleys don't give him pocket money so he probably can't afford a train ticket, unless he is exchanging his galleons for muggle pounds.
Fungus-Face...that burn 😅
Aside from the more well-known characters in the honorable mentions, I was only familiar with Hector Dagworth-Granger and Fleamont Potter prior to this video.
Can someone send the link of the spotify podcast? (I know its in the description but its not working for me)
I actually knew Fleemont before the video, he was the reason of the Potter fortune and their hair
Interesting that several of them were bullied at school and prefered isolation due to scars of previous abuse. Snape also shared that same fate. Having said that, however, Hogwarts in general was quite an abusive place, and the teachers were known not to take any actions against bullying.
i never knew that all that potions have so much history to them😀
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Excellent. Thank you.
You have forgotten the most important question. Where does magic come from in harry potter, do they have gods,religion as we do? How did it all start, was there just some random guy or girl born with magic and starting to mate with muggles??
May I suggest both Fred and George Weasley? Surely they must have been potions masters in their own right for inventing Fainting Fancies, Puking Pastilles, and Nosebleed Nougat among others.
How is Snape not here? I mean he Literally revolutionised many potion makings
I'm kinda surprised severus snape didn't get on the list
What happened to Harry's grandparents? I mean, both his parents were very young when they had him and atleast the Potter's were purebloods which would let them become quite old.
Died of Dragon Pox
@@es10liv oh ok! all 4 of them?
@@Mortuus03 I'm not sure about Lily and Petunia's parents, but they were also muggels and probably weren't as suited to take care of Harry.
Nicolas flamel isnt here why?
He was an alchemist, which is different from potion making. He likely was pretty skilled in potion making due to transferable skills between the two, but we have no records about his work within potions.
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I was sitting here like "snape?"
He probably would have been ranked high if he had lived longer but still.
agreed, i wonder what he would have done if he survived the war, would he have continiued teaching or been headmaster, would he have retierd from teaching and instead started a career in something else like making spells or potions (both things he was realy gifted in) so many questions. his death shows a completly different personality that we dident know about before and would probably never have known. i wonder if he would have been different to harry if he survived the bite somehow, if i dont remember wrong he mentioned something about seeing a little of lilly in harry at the end but might remember wrong.
would probably not been friends but maybe get rid of some of the hatered he was feeling.
@@baldrian22 you are remembering correctly.
In answer a lot of fans and I think JKR herself speculated if he had lived he might have grown to surpass even Dumbledore and voldemort.
I will say though I have been listening through the books on audio recently and I had a realization about Snape.
He protected Harry because of his mother but hated him for his father, why is that it doesn't make much sense. I realized it was because it was easier to hate him for his father and see only his father in Harry despite the fact that Harry takes more after his mother. But if he saw his Lilly in Harry then he would only ever be racket with guilt and pain from what happened.
So his mind almost did a defense mechanism to keep him from hurting by only ever seeing James in Harry rather then Lilly and when he died he finally allowed himself to see Lilly in Harry. And was finally able to express the feelings that he should have felt long ago.
Anyway it was just a realization I had thinking about how strange it is for him to only ever hate Harry while still thinking of Lilly
Snape although a master potioneer and one that is certainly very innovative doesn't seem to have created his own unique potions that we know of. I don't think he has ever won the Golden Cauldron so maybe that's why he doesn't rank higher.
I might put Lily as an honourable mention. Slughorn did say that she was naturally gifted at potions.
What about Lily Evans?
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I'm curious what is the true origin of the deathly hallows?
Makes sense not to include Snape in the countdown. After all, his specialty was truly defense against the dark arts.
I mean it’s also the fact that he didn’t create potions. He was extremely gifted at potions, but his creativity was in spells, not potions. The ones on this list were truly generational talents that changed life for the whole wizarding world.
@@Bballfan1992 But he modified standard potion recipes to make them better?
@@EdolasMystogan that’s what gifted means. He was able to improve some potion steps that others already invented. But that doesn’t make him the top of his field… Linfred created Skele-gro, and pepper up, 2 drastically more useful inventions than simply improving some steps of a recipe, and he wasn’t even on this list. So no, Snape did not belong here.
Now, if you want to argue potential, sure, of course Snape COULD HAVE possibly done great things in the future if he tried. But at the end of the day, he did NOT do so. It’s not a knock against him. He had other things to worry about. But take away your feelings, and what-ifs, and at the end of the day, fact is he is not a top 5 potioneer. He was a potions professor who was talented at a young age. That’s not worthy of a top 5 ever period.
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Video idea for you to do:
What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
Shouldn’t that second person be considered a herbologist?
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Penny Haywood anyone?
If i had millions of dollars I'd buy land and build Hogwarts. I'd even make it a school for middle to high school students. I would send acceptance letters out randomly to random families free admission every year. That way it wouldn't matter how rich, poor, smart or dumb you are. I also would probably call it a different name with different houses. As for quidditch it would be ⚽ and 🏈 maybe some other sports
I thought Slughorn said that Lilly Potter was the best student he ever had.
vague term. best student doesn't mean best at potions.
no, what he said was a "one of my brightest students was muggle born" Never even mentioned her name. "One of" does not indicate the best. Additionally, just because you can follow instructions and make all the potions correctly does not make you a potions master. The folks on this list CREATED potions. If you can find where she did that, I'd be inclined to agree with you.
The U.K.? China? ... I never knew Harry Potter took place on Earth. I always thought it was some other world.
so when Harry was taking the Nightbus in Prisoner of Azkaban and says to Stan Shunpike, "..Leaky Cauldron, that's in London" , that didn't clue you in? LOL
Could have been a different London. Watching the movies just feels like a fantasy world. There's dragons, unicorns, giant beasts, Hogwarts, flying car, flying broomsticks.
It's likely set in an alternate reality where magic exists and can be proven as such.
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slughorn asked hermoine about relation with hector she denied it and said sir u see i am a muggleborn
she didnt even know about him
for gods sake read books .u just cant just watch movies and start a yt info channel.
How the hell is snake not on the list. He literally, when he was a kid, corrected the potion book for hogwarts that the number 2 guy wrote
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