KEVIN SMITH REVIEWS JUSTICE LEAGUE
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Live from Scum & Villainy, Kevin and Marc review Justice League, run through the latest news, invite Runaway's star Ryan Sands up as a guest, and finish out strong with the latest Q&A.
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Jay and Silent Bob’s Secret Stash jayandsilentbob...
That moment when your favorite critic's review is longer than the film they're reviewing.
RandomBlackGamer he also reviewed some punisher and talked about swallowing cum on tbs ... sooo ... not sure this whole thing counts as a review lol
by 3 minutes lol
The Movie is 1h 49 min + 2 post credit-scenes
Dude, have you seen Moviebob's Batman v Superman autopsy? He's already at 3 hours between two of three parts.
Joshua Jansen I saw it. And there's a third part coming.
Review starts at 11:16
GrizzleyBruin thanks! I clicked for a JL review and got Punisher spoilers instead. Had to stop and read comments to see when the review started lol
Lifesaver 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
For fuck sake. This is why i unsubscribed from this podcast mark Bernard ruined this show when they changed the format.
THANK YOU
tony2k79 Same..
Nightcrawler origin - "Somewhere in the middle of the second act, there needs to be something like a giant spider because spiders are the most vicious killers in the animal kingdom!"
Hail To The Chin I understood that reference
I got that reference
9:42 Omg!!! I'm dying here. Best part of this 2 hour video.
Start of the hart attack
Mentions Punisher: *Crowd cheers*
Mentions Justice League: *Crowd laughs*
Seems legit.
What a world we live in.
If they were talking about the Snyder Cut, a.k.a the Real Justice League movie, the crowd would cheers too.
@@marciofilho2137 still a shit movie
9:43 That got me laughing so hard. Just Kevin's reaction to the loud noise "THE FUCK!?" 😂
People complain about Mark, but when he's being serious and giving actual insight on how he sees things, I can listen to him talk for hours.
*Marc
Who complains about Marc. I love Marc. He isn’t a comedian but does a great job with insight
Marc's the man. I look forward to his insights more than Kevin's
What numb nuts is complaining about Marc
Who complains about Marc? I fucking love Marc.
This review is longer than the actual movie lmao
First ten minutes or so is like filler
Last ten minutes or so of JL was credits; So it's still pretty much longer than the movie. Which was a shame. It FELT like the movie had been trimmed down, and I really would've liked to see more of the characters, and see the story fleshed out a little more. ANOTHER mistake by the execs... Insisting the movie come in under two hours, when they're finally on the right track.
Almost--but I get your reference. This is yet another movie requiring more consumer money spent to see those deleted scenes and un-filmed story boards.
I’d watch this again over the movie.
It's funnier too and the special effects are better.
It's easy to explain Superman's return. But how are they going to explain Clark Kent's coming back around the same time? They had a funeral and everything for Clark.
That fight at the monument was the awesome.
Amy J. Delevingne I guess that could work.
Amy J. Delevingne Who are you talking about?
Amy J. Delevingne True. IDK. There's many, many holes in these movies.
No one know why Clark actually stop coming into work , was it superman in the casket or was it Clark
(If the list is real) there was apparently a scene at the end of the movie where Lois and Clark go back to The Daily Planet, with Lois saying, "Perry White, let me introduce Clark Kent, also known as Superman."
Not saying it's the perfect answer, but it's one way to do it, having the Planet take advantage of having Superman on the payroll.
I love Kev’s description of Kevin Feige drunk in Saigon as the way he decided to make the first Guardians movie 😂😂😂
I took a friend to see it, they knew nothing about the stache, and they said they didn’t notice.
Some people are visually stunted, I saw it in the trailers and couldn't stop laughing it was so pathetic.
I couldn't notice it as well
+NorthernSeaWitch It's not in the trailers . . .
I only learned of it after viewing it. Didn't poke out that much.
Not retarded He wasn't talking to you lol
My favourite scene is when Superman looks at The Flash right in the eye during flash-time. That was cool as hell.
I swear Kevin Smith doesn't hate any comic movie
Kevin is an avowed uber fan, he just wants this stuff up on the screen that he grew up with, one way or another. Too low of a bar for me but he's not stealth about his opinions.
He just wants to enjoy movies. No point in being bitter all the time. I'm the same, I'm watching a movie so I'm having fun no matter what. Tho there's a handful of movies Iv seen where I'm just fucking bored or saying what's this shit? Lol
if he bashed them no one in the industry would talk to him anymore...thats why he kisses ass so much. he used to be brutally honest when he was miramax's darling indie writer/director and could get away with it.
He said it took him a few watches to like BvS
he really doesn't , he just points out the good and the bad
"It still seems like we need a Kevin Feige." - Kevin @ 47:09
I as a viewer am just a dumb asshole who take superhero movies too seriously, but I think Kevin Smith would make a great equivalent in the DCEU. Kevin's never been anything but passionate about comics and film and I think he could pull off the job marvelously... no pun intended. Make Kevin Smith the Kevin Feige of DC!
Kevin had Creative control of Superman but they booted him
I'd rather have Geoff Johns the head of DC.
I totally agree with you. You need someone who both knows and loves the source material, but also understands movie making well enough to know when they have to tweak said source material for the purposes of the movie. He would also be a big help livening up the dialogue (which they desperately need because MOS and BVS both depressed and bored the absolute hell out of me), and he'd add a new and different perspective to things. I almost think WB should have Kevin Smith direct a Flash movie, he'd be perfect for it, or even a Green Lantern flick. Also, he and his comic book buddies could come up with a lot of good ideas for where to take a DC cinematic universe (and DC is in desperate need for some kind of centralized direction and overall story arc). In summation, Kevin Smith couldn't be any worse than what DC has now and he would bring a lot of zest to the DCEU.
Richard Shasteen Idk, Kevin Smith wants Clooney back. I'd rather have Smith just be an audience like is, and gives us his genuine thoughts
Amy J. Delevingne If you want Kevin Smith to be Kevin Feige, Kevin Smith has said he wants to bring Cloony back
WB needs to let comic book fans make DC movies . I’m still pissed they are not Ben Affleck direct the Batman solo film . He’s a huge Batman fan and has won two oscars for his director skills. It’s a no brainer! WB just doesn’t care about these characters.
"Not letting him"?
Dude was playing Batman, Directing, AND writing it. Bit much for one dude, so he stepped down.
Lance Bombers they do but are way to concerned with catching up to marvel
I loved how Marc kept making a better movie during the review.
That's how you know this is a bad movie. When people just literally sitting around spitballing come up with a far better movie on the fly. Now to be fair execution is always key, but Mark and Kevin clearly had a lot of good ideas for what would work with a Justice League movie. WB/DC should go and hire Kevin Smith to direct a DCEU movie. Hell, make him the DC version of Kevin Feige. He knows movies, he can actually write and direct, and he loves the source material and has worked on comic book movies before (including the aborted Superman: Reborn and Daredevil).
Amy J. Delevingne you are 100% accurate.
Turns out the mother box's name is Martha.
Good one! This beats my previous favourite from the internet... Batman vs Superman: Dawn of MARTHA.
BUuUuUCKYYYYyYyYY
Steppenwolf "That's the name of my mother box"
Batman "Did we just become best friends!"
ah so many people still don't realize why that scene was so good and important? marvel fanboys or people that just can't understand it?
sinistar99 M-U-S-T S-A-V-E M-A-R-T-H-A !!
Personally I Loved Justice League! But two suggestions I would make is STOP trying to play catch-up! These characters have more history than Marvel. Use it! Second improvement is WB needs to back off and let DC's Geoff Johns give some creative direction to the movies a la Stan Lee! Loved Mark's duck analogy lol!
Kirby has been dead for 23 years so.... no. Unless you mean his art style and then you got that in Thor Ragnarok, which a lot of DC cock suckers hated so you can't win there. And I say art style as Kirby couldn't write good dialogue to save his life.
Great points! Loved the movie all 3 times I’ve watched it!
Bry T You Spoke Nothing But Truth
Agreed. Johns needs to be the Feige of DC. He really KNOWS how to make big huge comic stories. WB has gotta trust someone with a vision.
True. DC honestly has a much better universe, besides some characters like Hulk and Spider-Man. I’m honestly shocked at the difference in movie quality.
I love Ben as Batman I think he has done a good job.
I think he's been okay, and with better material I think he could have been an amazing Batman. Sadly I think he's on his way out and he could have been DC's version of RDJ with Iron Man.
I'm sorry but I'm not understanding your question. Could you please rephrase? What about RDJ?
Well, I'm assuming that if they did the DCEU movies in such a way that was far better and as such they're raking in money and are thus able to afford Batfleck at the rates that RDJ commands.
9:42 wtf 😂 Kevin almost had a heart attack 😂
The aquaman scene with him saving the fisherman was sick. Loved when he walked into the bar and the white stripes starting playing. So sick!
Everything Comics if by sick you mean it made you want to throw up... I agree
In that scene there is a hanging incident when aquaman saw a green goo in his hand after holding the rescued man. That explain nothing at all.
Amy J. Delevingne yes.
Amy J. Delevingne no. I don't willingfully seek out garbage. Which is why I wouldn't have seen JL if I knew what I know now...
Amy J. Delevingne its after saving the stranded fisherman.. when aquaman holds a glass or bottle of liqour after tossing the rescued man in the table he noticed that green goo in his hand, but explains nothing. I guess we have another of that lois lane bullet incident until they released the bvs ultimate edition and explained that bullet scene purpose.
The movie should have been at least 30 minutes longer.
Shorter running times can squeeze more showings..... sadly it's all about the money.
They cut out a ton of important scenes that added to the story and did a better job at introducing you to the new characters. It didn't feel like I was watching a movie, It just felt like a bunch of scenes chopped together. But that's what happens when you frankenstein two different directors movies together and cut out 30 to 45 minutes of important scenes. I love Justice League and was really looking forward to the movie, but it was incredibly mediocre and disappointing. The Flash vs Superman part was cool though.
Yeah_Im_Garrett and when it is , people say the movie is too long
Try 1 hour 30 minutes longer. It was supposed to be a 2 parter
Yeah_Im_Garrett ...to compete with this rewiew
I'm not necessarily asking for Snyder cut, even though that could be interesting to see, I'm ok for much longer cut that would make movie cohesive and add much more depth there. I hope we get something like that.
Bruce Snow you want it longer? Funny, your girlfriend complains about the same thing
Vote Green hah, ok, that made me laugh for some reason, props to that.
Keyboard gangstas out in full force tonight
Bruce Wayne I want to see the completion of vision.
You DLCEU fans are a major part of the problem as to why WB and DC will never change their shitty business practices.
You're actually proud to be ripped off, in business terms you're called "a Whale" or "a mark" which translates to "a person with no sense of value and will happily spend excessive amounts of additional money on something that's worth almost nothing".
Real movies don't have sub headings like "Ultimate Cut" or "Extended Cut" and real movies don't have DLC.
The exact SECOND Marc said, "...battery clips attached to his balls..." my UA-cam cut to a jolly add for potatoes & fries, almost died laughing! XD
The movie feels like the studio said, "Just give us two hours of stuff for trailers and scene previews..."
...it does put Miller's performance in We Need to Talk About Kevin in pretty sharp contrast.
Loved the rebirth of Supes and Flash trying to blind side him and Flash sees Supes eyes moving and eyeballing him and the realization on his face!! Brilliant and the Race between them brilliant
Feel like Marc should be a consultant for all these executives
I still maintain that Nolan’s Batman trilogy is a large part of the reason for things being a mess for DC currently.
The tone of those movies, that ‘realism’ and emotional weight carried through into Man of Steel. Superman just couldn’t exist in Nolan’s universe. And whilst that tone did work in the first half of MoS, it couldn’t sustain through to the end of the movie.
That DC and Warner Brothers persisted, whilst also trying to emulate Marvels success has a lot to do with how mixed up things are.
For my money? I think DC should go the other way. Rather than make a shared universe, go for individual stories, different directors and actors, completely different takes on the character each time. An anthology of stories, nominally set in the same world, but not overtly linked. That would still leave room for Justice League stories, but takes the pressure off and allows creativity back into the process.
jgfjgfify I beg your pardon?
i agree with the anthology angle
Considering how famous the characters are and how easily explainable their powers are, you can do like a Justice League trilogy while also doing different solo movies
Earth Fire Water Exactly. The narratives could broadly speaking overlap, but style can be completely different.
Not that I’m saying they go this far, but consider The Animatrix as an extreme example. All stories from within the same universe, but completely divergent in terms of how the stories were told.
Amy J. Delevingne Aquaman is in post production, Shazam is about to start shooting, Wonder Woman is in pre production so they haven't stopped yet, though it won't surprise me if some big changes will be made. After all, they are really pushing forward with Flashpoint which apparently will retcon the entire DCEU
They should have drop Snyder after the BvS backlash instead of trying to do something different with him. This lackluster performance is because hardcore DCEU fans didn't like the way WB treated Snyder while regular audiences saw a movie that was a mess
I really liked Justice League. Was it perfect? No. But it wasn't anywhere near the dumpster fire so many people make it out to be.
Dave Wilson TRUTH TO THE CORE
Dave Wilson it felt like a Justice League animated movie story structure, I feel like Zack Snyders cut is a more honorable sequel to BvS. Especially honorable to the audience that enjoyed BvS or even loved it.. they're are people that love that movie personally. Man I wish I can watch Snyders cut rn
Most definitely. I loved this movie.
To be honest this has been a good year for comicbook movies definitely better then last years. with Justice league and Thor ragnorak it felt like I was watching a Justice league cartoon and avengers earth mightiest heroes and that's a good thing.
Justice League not being perfect is like saying The Room isn't quite Shakespeare.
The scene where Superman watched & fought The Flash in flash time made the movie worth it for me. That was so badass.
night crawler = giant robot spider. I think you know where I'm going.
I have no idea but somehow it made it into a superman movie. I can only picture Kevin with his dumbfounded look asking the same thing. That being said I think I remember Peters being credited as a producer on Man of Steel.
Blacklily Orchard absolutely not equal. Knightcrawler is Frank Miller's Battank that also can crawl on falls.
Oh shit. Fuckin giant spider again.
Blacklily Orchard Funny. The thing it reminds me of is the scuttler in the Batman Lego movie
Man of Steel. The fortress of solitude has a guard, theres at least one shot of a polar bear and the big terraforming machine has a lot of fucking legs.
I love these long ass episodes! I want 3 hour fat man on batman episodes!!!
Kevin talked about Starro, and they finally made a suicide squad with Starro.
The Amazon Mother Box sequence was like a ten minute Rogue One Vader scene.
I LOVE HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS!
Snyder Cut IS COMING!
Ronit Mukherjee and it's still trash.
@@TimeForDunston without even watching the movie? Wake the fuck up!
@@mukherjee22 you already think it's great without watching it, what's the difference?
@@bryanmills1638 how is it different? It's the same fucking thing as never having seen it and calling it trash🤣
@@bryanmills1638 how is it different? It's the same fucking thing as never having seen it and calling it trash🤣
"he kept his shirt on the whole time, like me in the shower" .... I almost died.
Anyone else love Henry Cavill as Superman!
he really sucks
Henry, of course. Welling as Superman would have been cool.
@Amy J. Delevingne
Because he just fucking IS awesome as Kal-El.
No. Cavill doesn't have the charisma for Superman.
Yes
Is anyone else still watching this even knowing that the Snyder Cut is coming soon? 😅
Edit: I’m still watching this even after the Snyder Cut has already come out
Me 🙋🏿♀️
Yup
WB needs to release the 4 hour Zach Schneider cut.
Christian Athas When trying to spell Zack Snyder's name you made every wrong decision.
Billy Sotherden hahahahahaha god damn that had me dying
Christian Athas they need to fire Whedon first.
Rob Schneider Cut would be epic
who is Zachary Chleiber?
Listening to this there's another key piece to Marvel's success that no one is picking up on, because Marvel had multiple franchises going at one time they have ample time between movies to make any adjustments that they need to make. Think of the difference in quality, tone and visuals between Thor The Dark World and Ragnarok. Think of the difference in magnitude and feel between First Avenger and Winter Soldier. Because Marvel has ample time between their movies, they can receive feedback and weave in the appropriate changes before they start working on a movie rather than while they're halfway in the middle of it. This also makes things a lot more seamless in the Marvel movies and everything holds together better. Because DC is in the insane push to just "catch up to Marvel" they aren't taking the appropriate time to work things out and make the necessary adjustments without making matters worse.
pittland44... Very good point.
But marc. You've said said countless times that you didn't want to see that superman.
What Mark is talking about with Superman being a bad guy was the Snyder version but they were scared to give the characters any drama as they want a crowd pleaser to make maximum profit so Whedon was brought in and made an alright truncated fluff movie.
Yeah well screw DC movies and comics I'm boycotting them permanently unless we get Snyder's version.
Definitely want to see the ZS Director’s cut. Make it 3 1/2 hours. I’ll buy it because they participate in “movies anywhere.”
An now its a 4 hr movie. Time flys
@@matthewsolis3826 whoa. I have no memory of this comment. Lol.
9:40 had me rolling.
It's pretty clear Zack Snyder got the memo from head office: We're not making 'art' here. We're making Big Macs. We want predictable product pumped out from a standardized template. So no more complexity, philosophical themes, beautiful cinematography and unconventional interpretations of these characters set in 'real world' environments. Just give us hokey cliches, brainless tropes, jokey ironic dialogue and stock characters. We don't want proper 'films' with heroes in them. We want 'superhero movies': big, dumb and profitable.
M H lol if Zack Snyder's DCEU movies were art, so were the Transformers movies. Bland CGI destruction porn with soulless characters, style over substance, and the trademark egotistical way of thinking it's so clever when it actually doesn't work at all on any levels.
Well said
I love you,"Oh Jesus!" guy.
Aqua Man and the lasso scene was actually a Snyder scene. Everyone thinks it's Joss Whedon. But it is hilarious.
Nahhh
Was it? I don't recall seeing it in Snyder's cut and he included everything he filmed.
@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Dude. That was 3 years ago me. You'll have to take it up with him.
Lol “don’t write a better movie, talk about the one we saw!”😂 poor WB
James wan said on twitter "no watter bubles on my underwater world"
Idrissi Meaning?
Billy Sotherden Atlanteans are going to talk underwater instead of making air bubbles
Amy J. Delevingne Atlanteans were just able to talk underwater. Aquaman only used telekinesis when communicating with marine life
Amy J. Delevingne he doesn't physically talk to the marine life. Just mind to mind communication.
I want to know how they explain Clark Kent coming back from the dead to the public
Depends on the characters. At clarks funeral it was full of people who probably knew he was superman. Perry white and that chick went to his funeral but so did the priest from man of steel and pete ross. Like the other person said undercover op but I think it should be that he somehow got amnesia during the doomsday fight and just got lost for 2 years.
Amy J. Delevingne i think there's a chance doomsday could come back like superman but there would be no point since superman already died.
@@kluneberg8952
Negative. There were a lot of family friends at Clark's funeral. They wouldn't have known. Pete Ross may have suspected due to the bus incident in Man of Steel, but he didn't know. Clark's co-workers were there. There's no reason they would have known. The funeral was open casket, so EVERYBODY at the service and the wake saw his dead body. His obituary was published in the Daily Planet.
Unlike in the comics, in BvS, Clark Kent has been verified dead. They can't do him trapped under rubble or walking around with amnesia. Snyder got carried away stuffing "badass" moments into the film and painted Clark Kent into a corner.
By not making another movie
He will pretend to be Clark’s brother Mark.
Kevin please stop putting yourself down, you've made amazing movies, and not just clerks, redstate was a good movie that was serious
Holy shit, UA-cam put 6 ads in this video.
LOL, "battery clips attached to his balls" BUY A CADILLAC "brought to you by Disney"
Iain B
UA-cam doesn't do that. The people who upload videos put in how many ads and where they are placed.
Anyone watching the back catalogue before the Thanos snap that is #Covid19 !?
26:32 "Boo-yah" is from Teen Titans. Not Teen Titans Go. It originated in the Teen Titans cartoon first.
“This guys about to get battery clips attached to his balls.” *AD*
I'll wait to see the extended edition.
Sorry Amy but my nearest cinema is a 6 - 8 hour round trip away. If I'm going to go to a cinema then the movie better be complete and great.We already know an extended edition is going to be released. And all the reviews I have seen are saying the same things. It's not great, it's a step in the right direction. It does have problems etc. etc. I'll watch the extended edition.
jgfjgfify Good to hear mate :) If I wasn't so far away I would go see it but it's just too far for a movie that people are saying it's just "alright" and to hear now that a lot of scenes have been cut out. It's just not worth going all that way to see part of a movie. I'll watch the extended on google play :)
It is because of these blockbuster movies that we are getting a decrease in quality films, films are being made for spectacle and the budgets are so high the more artistic film makers just can't compete so you have directors like Valerian or Mad Max needing a decade to raise enough money to even be listed next to the other films. The comic movies do not need your support they are visual roller coaster rides with little respect for the source material, it is in their nature to be safe investments with low risks and it's a sad trend, I refuse to give them money until I know they are worth it, they are destroying the comic book film genre, just so we are all aware... It will be like the Bond/spy genre they will milk it until no one gives them money and we will be left with a black hole and out of ideas for remakes. Take the new Jurassic World trailer, completely unnecessary plot, completely unreasonable money grab, they are laughing at the audience while they cut more and more corners and there is no defending them, I felt Justice League was shot entirely on green screen and I stopped caring about it as soon as I saw the credits they are just big VFX showreels to me and they seem to be getting worse, I actually think Avengers was the beginning of the end for storytelling it was full of fuck yea moments with little substance it's becoming like the Apple vs Android shit and either way we lose because they don't respect the audience they just want to fight over seats in the cinema, stop playing their game see what you want to see and stop lowering the bar of film making just to support universe building.
Sadly the more the government taxes us, the less people will be able to go to the cinemas. When taxes go up, so does everything else. To pay for everything else, the people have to work more. And working more means the cinemas become a luxury more people can not afford. Last time I went to the cinemas it cost me over $100. Not everyone is in my position but a $10 bus ride to the ferry, $10 ferry ride to the mainland, $20 cab ride to the cinema, $25 for the ticket to the movie, $20 for a drink and popcorn, then another $20 cab back to the ferry, another $10 ferry ride back to the island. And that's just for me, imagine you have a family to take with you. I don't regret having my family for a second. I would take playing in the backyard with the kids over the best movie you have ever seen any day of the week. All I am saying is that going to the cinemas in my case is just not important. Especially since I can just watch it when it comes on tv or a streaming service when I can find the time. If you can still make it to the cinemas then that's great and I hope you enjoy the experience. But for me that experience is a distant memory. . . . in more ways than one haha :D
TT it's still trash.
FINALLY!!!! I have been waiting for THIS!!!!
"Marvel Doesn't have a multiverse"
We about to end this man's whole career.
It was already confirmed on Doctor Strange first movie.
If someone could please pass along a note to Kevin, I want to thank him for saving my life.
Batman was better in BVS.
Batman felt true to the comics in BvS.
yea all the good stuff from B v S about Batman was not in JL
Bvs was garbage because it was 3 movies cut into one.
Slam Robot658 his characterization was bad in both
hell, Batman and Robin had better characterisation than this😂😂😂
Sad to say this review was more entertaining than Justice League.
Why does Marc Bernardin not write movies.... :(
50 minutes of the movie were cut.
See, that's something they should have figured out before they started filming. Whether I like Snyder's style or tone (and I honestly don't) you have to try and keep the movie more or less nominally intact. By cutting 50 minutes out you lose too much, 5-10 minutes of a movie are one thing, but you can't cut the movie by approximately 30% and still expect it to hold up. That's also why BVS, SS and JL seem so choppy, you can't cut that much out of the movie and still have the remains hold together. Again, they're literally missing a little less than a third of Justice League, and that isn't counting certain scenes that they reshot, like the resurrection of Superman.
Doesn’t matter, DCEU in whole is a joke now, especially their fanboys! They scream left and right about marvel being for kids ,and then dc turns around and teams them up with wwe and Scooby-Doo 😒
The sad thing is that I think the problem the DC fans have is they're in an abusive relationship with WB. WB knows there are a lot of die hard DC fans who will stick by this stuff no matter what and they're abusing that fact by putting out movies that aren't very good. It's clear to me that WB doesn't really care about the characters or the plot or internal consistency or even the overall quality of the DCEU movies. They just put the movies out and expect the fans to show up and spend money. It's really not good and I feel bad because I abandoned DC back at Man of Steel.
pittland44 not really, The millions declining from man of steel till now shows otherwise, if it is done right they will get lots of money. Now not so much.
pittland44 the sad part is, the movie was screened by hundreds of their fans a month in advance, and they spread word that it “and I quote) epic, great ,awesome, DCEU has arrived etc... it was a joke on every one , and by fans defending this turd nugget, they are saying “ it ok we will take it , just do mediocre next time” 😒
Kev you are my god! I met Jay at a horror con in Cromwell CT years ago, now i just have too meet you and my life will finally be complete.
Holy shit, Jon Hamm as Bruce Wayne is a fucking awesome Idea. I would love to see that.
When was the last time you guys sat down and watched a movie for fun without dissecting it to death. I loved JL from beginning to end. It was a fun movie. And I loved the story. And why does everyone want Superman to be bad?
Rewatching this in March 2021. Plague still going and the Snyder Cut on the way. Going to be interesting comparing these two films.
Suck it up butter cup punisher is meant to be brutal. Not getting why everyone is cringinging about why they finally did punisher justice
"that's the problem, everybody wants a plot!" Hahaha amazing.
KGBeast! Haha Kev that was the best reference in the entire video! Great shit!!
Love you Kev, but I prefer the studio format.
I think he gets too full of himself when there's a crowd. Like he tries to show off and throw Marc under the bus.
Thank you...he’s trying to ham it up too much in front of an audience
Scott Sweet fans get to partake in this, so we might not get what we want but I definitly want to be there one time
my thoughts exactly, Marc was making some excellent points and you could tell Kevin wants to be top dog and get 99.9% of the attention and laughs and shat on most of what Marc said then backhandidly complimented them in a glib narcissistic fuck way.
The mother box being in him would be a lot like the Mind Jem in Vision. I know that this post is a year and a half old, but Endgame introduce a Multiverse before DC did, and before that Spiderverse.
That Russian family scene was a Joss Whedon addition apparently. I didn't care for it either. I feel like Whedon hurt the movie more than he helped. Most of the really awesome scenes remained Snyder's. WB shoulda just let the dude make his movie, but no, once he understandably stepped away, not only did Whedon make some dumb contributions ("Yep, something's definitely bleeding" WTF) but WB butchered the hell out of the movie in the editing room for more box office money.
I disagree, it helped make the last fight have some real stakes and not just some random fighting in the desert type thing.
Could have just saved the Russian family scene for the last instance when they were escaping and kept the one scene of when the Parademons arrived in their city. But continuing to cut back to them hurt the pacing of the movie. OK, great, the girl found a can of bug spray, ha ha ha.
Yes whedon ruined marvel movies as well.
Guess what, Snyder hired Whedon...
lone wolf iron man flew a family to safety in a bath tub with a whacky fun expression and tone, during a life or death battle in a crumbling city.
And there it is!!! The assumption that Aquaman/Lasso is a Joss Whendon scene - It is a Zack Snyder scene!!!
Watching this years later, and amazed how Kevin called peacemaker season one with the staro
About dam time...YOU ARE A SMART MAN KEVIN SMITH TO NOT REVIEW IT SO SOON
Starro could be scary, just H. R. Geiger it to be like the facehuggers from Alien
Starro, Amazo, The Manhunters, The Extremists, The Elite, Queen Bee, The Grey Man. Justice League has a whole ton of sweet options with their supervillains. All of them require the right type of execution to work in live-action yes even Starro can be extremely scary if done like; H.R. Geiger's Alien concept, agreed.
lets be honest, they have 4 hours of movie that was missing, thats the real point of why it wasnt amazing
Cleopatra (1963) is 4 hours in length, and yet 2 hours are still missing from it, why? Because the Fox studio wanted 1 movie later on and stupidly changed shit around. And yet an incredible 2 hours are still missing from the storyline of two movies instead of one picture. Which is why the film suffers from lots of missing content. The problem has always been a studio that screws around with a director's intended vision. Justice League should've been 2 movies!
Watching this in 2021 is certainly something special, specifically when Mark mentions the multiverse idea with Keaton AND then contrasting it with waiting 10 years for the next Justice League movie... oh my! Regardless, you guys are awesome!
Its nice to hear that Kevin Smith and his daughter still go to the movies together! I hope hes trying to keep her away from all the Hollywood bullshit!
Hold up, Marvel absolutely has a multiverse. They just handle it differently The main continuity is nicknamed the 616. Even the movies (Fox and Sony included) have there own numbers too.
Doctor strange holds the keys to opening the multiverse
Not surprised, they copied everything else DC did.
xLukeOfTheDeadx and DC did the same with them...
ian hock to be fair, shethor, asian hulk, and hydra steve rogers are not selling books
kalpain truth
They should have just postponed production/release of this movie until Zack Snyder got his situation under control......a lot of people have been waiting for a justice league movie for a long time! The runtime of the movie should DEFINITELY have been way longer......I think a lot of movies, in general, should be longer to cover everything. I think people would sit through a 3-4 hour movie, no joke.
The movie would not have been longer than three hours at the most. It would have been as short as two and a half at the least. That would have been fine.
47:37 Kevin Smith is absolutely right.
WW is still my favorite film of the DCEU, but I enjoyed JL. I would say it's a step below MOS just because I feel Zod was a better villain than Steppenwolf. My main gripe aside from the villain, is I wished the Fourth World storyline had been fleshed out since MOS, sort of how Marvel has been doing with the Inifnity War story.
The armored bat suit looked amazing, it was straight out of Arkham Knight.
So... Kevin actually recognized the flaws in a DC movie, and Marc actually recognized the good in a DC movie...
Are we in the darkest timeline?
Ayyy powerful mark with the corona "with the lime"
1:01:19 Marc Set the future 5 years
Here to say THANK YOU AUDIO GUY. You set expectations incredibly low and in doing so have over delivered!
If I'm going to have to be forced to watch commercials which is OK I want to support this program, at least have the ability to skip ads that have already been shown. I saw the same ad over and over again and had no way to skip it!
If batman has simply said “I know of a thing called a Lazarus pit that could bring superman back” the whole movie would have been 100% better I mean think of the history that would have stirred up
Stop making a better movie!! Lol
That would've been clutch
Amy J. Delevingne yea it definitely did! But I just wish the movie was a joy from start to finish!
Superman was not even dead. He came back at the end of B v S.
The Lazaeus Pit would not have worked on Superman because he is Kryptonian and not human
The Lazarus pit would have been awesome and also tied into a whole series of other things that could lead to potential DCEU movies. Also, they could do Talia and Ras right, even hint at the idea that Jason Todd is alive again (think the animated "Under the Red Hood" where they use a Lazarus Pit to bring Jason back) all kinds of possibilities. You could even have a debate amongst them whether or not the pit would even work and whether it's worth the trouble to try and bring him back that way. I like this idea a lot.
"We the audience hurt this movie." I would have loved to see Zacks complete vision. Artists shouldn't be controlled.
tommy S yes and no a artist can go to far example avatar but they also can be restricted or force to do to much example Spiderman 3
just remember that Artist think beyond what's already been done. And most people wont like it
Mariana Ramirez it's a catch 22
I disagree. I want the national endowment for the arts cut with the exception of funding for four things, art supplies, rice, alcohol and drugs (including cigarettes) and that's it. I want my artists miserable, strung out, depressed, hung over and half starved. Cause that's what produces great art. ;)
Zack Snyder is not an artist. He's a hack
The other part of this equation is WB is so wasteful with it's money. Marvel is much more efficient with their production budgets. MOS, JL, BvS all cost 250m-300M. Has had Civil War and Age of Ultron at 250M, the rest have been sub-in the 150-175M range. The point is DC/WB hemmorages money with because of their lack of money. The fact that BVS had 20 minutes of CGI completed add-on's demonstrates significant waste of time and money.
What they just suppose to make a "Justice Leage War" on a big screen. i love that animated movie and they did great job to introduce new generation of viewers to justice league :) Great Show Kevin and Mark Keep it up guys
3:49 "Yeah man, Bambi's mom was fuckin' KILLED." lmao
get Mark a damned headset mike already lol.
Two hours is just too long Kev. The 1/2 hour runtime from your studio is perfect.
the punisher is easily the best marvel Netflix show ever
B La nah still daredevil s01
Jessica jones was tbh
Why though?
lol
I only have a word to say about that: Daredevil!
Marc Bernardin has the greatest point of view I have ever seen. It is true WB and DC are rushing to keep up and it's not fair.
I'd watch Marc's Justice League movie. Now make it HAPPEN! :D