Remember it vividly, this is the first time I have seen footage of the accident - it brought back that feeling of shock and disbelief. Sad day. Thanks for sharing
I can still feel my stomach pit when he was at the top of the loop. I knew it was coming. I will never forget it. I was close enough to feel the thud...i had an immediate fear of flying for several years until i became a private pilot to over come it
It was awful. Can't imagine how his family must have felt because the way I felt was bad enough and I didn't even know him. I can see it in my mind like yesterday. I was also scared for my dad as he had gone to get drinks and was gone for ages and I thought he had been hit by flying debris or something. Turns out he had been stood chatting with loads of people about what had just happened. I wish Woodford aerodrome was still there in all its glory and that airshows were still held there. I'd love to be able to show my mutants the incredible times we had there x
Isn't it contradictory to say that this footage brought back sad memories to you but at the same time you thank for sharing it? In this situation I wouldn't have even bothered to watch it; not at least thanking for having posted it.
It may surprise a lot of people, but what survived of G-ALGT is actually being restored at Biggin Hill to a full aircraft - obviously with little of the original airframe being involved. It's a very complex process rebuilding/restoring warbirds to satisfy CAA requirements especially to verify what ID the frame will actually have, and to gain a certificate of airworthiness.....
Awful 😱. The main issue I think was not how low the loop was started but the fact the entry speed was too low by about 40 knots. This therefore caused the loop to top out too low, and at that point, having realised the “gate height” hadn’t been achieved, the pilot should have done an escape manoeuvre and rolled out at the top - the AAIB report even mentions that other pilots watching this expected him to escape in this way. This therefore sadly has major parallels with Shoreham. RIP.
I remember that day, I was one of the Royal Engineers that provided the dummy bomb run explosions for the show earlier. We'd just packed up our kit and driven back across the runway from the grass behind it when the Spitfire crashed basically where we'd just driven. I think it was about 80yds from me when it hit. People were crying in the crowd near by and we were full of adrenaline after realising how close we'd come to being hit by it. Sadly there was nothing that could be done for the pilot, with the fuel tanks going up right underneath him it was mercifully quick.
I was there too. I was 9 years old. But as I remember people didn't carry on as if nothing had happened at all. The whole place went silent in shock then people screamed and cried. It was awful. Never forgotten it.
Etched in my mind...I was 9 when this happened. Just remember the heat and the immediate silence of the engine. I remember my Grandad getting into a fist fight with a bunch of wankers in front of us who were laughing.
I was at this show too. Can’t believe it was 1992. It seems like just the other day. I remember the pilot lying on the grass next to the Spitfire, just chilling with his family and enjoying the nice weather. Terribly sad.
I met Dave a couple of times at computer club meet ups. He was a lovely chap. He used to fly Phantoms off the Ark Royal. He showed us a video of when he was flying in formation with Norwegian F-16s
And it's just as capable of killing the pilot when he makes a mistake. :-/ A lot of pilots died during training flights, and pilots in air displays face the same. risks as they did, in aircraft which are many years past their design life of no more than a few months.
I remember this as I was actually there that day when it happened, I was only 15 years old back then, and I knew when the pilot of that Spitfire did that loop I just knew he did it to low and there was no getting out of it, and when I saw the pilot just hit the runway right in front of me as I was stood at the front of the barrier and he hit the ground right opposite me to where I was stood, and when he hit the runway in front of me and the pilot was engulfed by flames my legs just turned to jelly and I just felt like I wanted to throw up and be sick cause of the shock of what had happened, as it was my first time in my life of seeing someone being killed in person and the way he was killed, it was just devastating, I'll never forget that day for as long as I live.
+Tommy L Yeah I remember it well dude, I had to sit down on the grass where I was stood at the barrier as my legs turned to jelly and I just felt sick like I wanted to throw up, my dad had to pass me some water and try and get me to take deep breaths and try and calm down, he said I just have to accept it, its just life, people die in many ways he said, but I was pretty devastated, I also feel bad for his wife and children and the rest of his family and friends, I just hope his funeral was a well deserved turn out and an honorable one to.
+Obsidian Rock I was also there Kane... I was a young lad who worked on the maintenance dept. I joined Woodford fire service in 86. I'm now at Manchester. I will never forget this crash.
KANE RedMonster I'm sorry about your experience with this event. I had an identical thing happen when I was 15, just a few years after this one happened. I was with family at MCAS El Toro for an airshow in 1995. I was front row for an F-86 Sabre crash that was a result of a low loop. Your reaction was very much the same as mine. I suppose if you're going to airshows often enough, you'll eventually see an accident.
I just found this footage. brings back lots of memories. I was there also, i could feel the heat from the flames (Although it was a very Hot day) On my face, i was 11 at the time. My first Airshow.
Sadly I was there with my young family too. We saw the whole thing ...the spits engine seemed to be missing as it went over us for the last time it just never made the bottom of the loop ....it was the last ever airshow we ever went to ....
Sad day. I'd long forgotten my brother was doing the announcements for lost children at the start of this video. I was stood with the crash crew when this happened so i was about as close as you could get to the impact. The hear was immense and i considered lying flat at one point to shield my face from the heat, but by the time i'd decided to do that, the heat was over.
I remember it well. I was there with my family. I was 7 years old and I just remember hearing the crowd erupt in a defeating sound. My parents put their hands over my eyes and said we need to go. We were all silent in the car.
I was 6 years old - remember it like nothing else and still have nightmares about it today. Probably because this being my Dad's favourite plane we really didn''t take our eyes of the whole display. The image of the rolling tire and the policeman froze on the spot wobbling in the heat will probably never leave me. RIP. x
Same as Beth Jacques, I was there and the Shoreham accident triggered memories of this day, it still haunts me, why I watched this footage - I don't know, thoughts and prayers with all concerned.
I was there, I was only 6 but I'll always remember the horrible bang when the plane hit the ground after doing the loop too low. It was a lovely hot day but it was ruined in an instant. RIP.
I remember seeing this when I was 9. Was really frightening & still remember it in so much detail, I think this has contributed to my fear in flying, god bless the pilot 🙏 & his family. It made me feel sad as he was putting on a magnificent show for the joy of the crowd 😢 I also remember people screaming to stop filming saying it's sick & the change in the noise of the engine as it surged to the ground.
Aerobatic flying, is by its nature, much more dangerous than straightforward flying. Add to that using an old aircraft, as they can be temperamental. Crashes like this put me off airshows, but not actually going up in most aircraft.
This still haunts me. I was only 9 and saw this happen in front of my eyes. I remember it so clear seeing people continue to video n others shouting saying they were disrespectful. God bless the pilot and his family xx
I was there, too - as part of the Public Address team who installed the temporary sound system you can hear during the video.... in fact, I put up the speaker pole you can see right at the beginning!! It was dreadful seeing David lose his life this way. The show was delayed for around four hours whlst they did investigation work and cleared the runway... the Sukhoi SU27 Flankers were first up in the air when the show restarted around 6.00pm... and they did their trademark vertical into tail stand manoeuvre immediately from take-off... the Jordanian air force crew were standing next to me and couldn't believe the madness they were seeing!
The commentator, Stratton Ritchie, was a personal friend of David's - you can hear it in his voice whilst asking the crowd to stay behind the barriers...
My condolences, bad situation all around. Hopefully the family is coping well, I know this isn’t the time for joy but at least he died doing something he loved. I’m so sorry for your loss.
R.I.P. Dave Moore. I too remember this like it was only yesterday. Like Terry Stockton said, the Spit`s engine didn`t sound too good and the pilot came in with wheels down and I thought that would be it. Then it seemed to pick up again and the show continued. As soon as he was at the top of the loop though and beginning to fall, I had an awful feeling he just wouldn`t have enough height to pull out. A very sad day and I can remember all the women and children sobbing soon after.
I met David Moor a few days before this at R.A.F. Fairford (R.I.A.T.) & the Spitfire was reunited with its original pilot from 303 (Polish) Squadron So very Sad
I was there that day as army liason for security, the pilot was a work colleague of my brother. A sad incident in an otherwise great day. Thanks to the Blue Eagles for making my son an honoury Blue Eagle and making a special day for him
I was here, I remember distinctly my dad who was stood next to me watching saying "he's killed himself here" when he was coming down from the top of the loop... unfortunately he was right. I remember that 'boof' sound of the fuel going up and that massive wall of heat. Sadly I was at Duxford a few years later when a P-38 lost control and had a similar outcome :
I was there that day, it happened right in front of where I was sitting and I can still remember the heat from the explosion when it hit the ground. I think the most shocking thing for me was the fact that everything else in the show (fairground, stalls, etc) just carried on as though nothing had happened. A man had just died right in front of us and his family were there and saw it happen. Still shocks me now watching this, very sad.
+meem1770 Really? that shows utter disrespect. [stallholders carrying on to gain money after a tragic accident] Maybe the average Joe and Josephine just don't really think too deeply..to them ''oh look, a plane has crashed, more tea, dear? how about a nice ride on the dodgems?, ice-cream? ..it is the same thing that makes people grumble when their train has been 'delayed' because of a suicide, people just don't think beyond their own little humdrum lives. A friend said she was also here while this took place, and the support crew were terribly distressed.
I was there too, and they later resumed the airshow. Life sadly goes on, they did the right thing. The stall holders would have paid a lot of money to be there, shutting up shop would have cost them dearly. Had it been me in the plane, I would have wanted the show to go on.
I was there in 92 on the industrial estate opposite stood on top of a container and when he passed it did miss-fire then he started the loop as he came round I said he's not going to make it, everybody look up and bang into the ground followed seconds later by the boom ,they brought the pilot out passed us about 3 hour later... R.I.P
The misfire would not have been a factor. Both Merlins and Griffons always misfired when inverted due to negative G affecting fuel flow in the carbs. The crash happened because the pilot did not commence his manoeuver with enough recovery altitude.
I was here for that too, I just saw an article about 'the first news story you remember'. This was mine, I remember coming home from the show and it was the first thing we saw on the TV. I didn't fully understand the weight of the situation while I was there with my parents as I was only five. Poor pilot.
Horrible day. I was 11 year old at the time and was with my Dad. I didn't see it impact the ground but I remember the thud and everything else from the video. I was very close to where this was filmed. RIP David Moore 🙏
I remember that day very vividly, I would have been around 12. Very hot day with a very sad incident. After a delay they continued with the red arrows display. That would never happen now after such an event. When we arrived home my next door neighbour who worked at the plant arrived home in tears at what had happened.
The pilot was called David moor I was only 10 years old and I still remember his name. I didn’t realise what had happened at first. Lots of people left the show when this happened.
What on earth happened ?? looked like a very shallow high speed impact, all these vintage aircraft accidents are desperately sad, not only for the loss of the aircraft but obviously the people too :(
Very sad. We all love to see these wonderful old birds fly but why not keep it straight and level. UA-cam is full of these bottom of the loop crashes, another very rare aircraft and a human life gone forever.
+rlr50 The remains of the aircraft (RM 689) were purchased by Rolls Royce. The intent was to rebuild it again to flying condition and substantial rebuild work has been completed. First it was going to fly again and then it wasn't and it may have a new owner now. Regardless it has made a long journey back to most of a Spitfire that may fly again some day.
A lot of these warbird rebuilds are in effect, "Trigger's Brooms." Very little of the original material. But if I was a display pilot, qualified to fly Spitfires, I wouldn't fly that one.
There are several accounts of what happened on the web including sections of the AAIB report. Several point to lack of power others to pilot error, search the aircraft registration and it wont take long to find information relating to this aircraft its history and demise
When the Mosquito crashed a few years later, they discovered that both carburettors were badly worn; one more so than the other. This was causing fuel starvation - one third of the intended fuel to one engine, and one tenth to the other, at full power. As a consequence, Rolls Royce inspected the carburettors on all serviceable Merlin and Griffin engines, and found that they all needed attention. This pilot was flying too low, clearly, but he could also have been another victim of a faulty carburettor. I remember hearing Spitfires and Hurricanes misfiring and throwing out smoke during fairly innocuous manoeuvres, back in the 1970's and 1980's. You almost never hear it nowadays.
The pilot was Brian moor, i remember seeing him just before this last flight and thought "I want to be a pilot, and fly planes" (..and yes i do now) ..but the thing i remember is the mighty thud when the spit hit the ground and the heat burning my face and legs, my dad just said "Its time to go home now" and we went, being ex RAF my dad knew respect is not to watch the aftermath of a (deathcrash) but to move on and hold them in our harts "Lest We Forget".
The Pilot was David Moore. Yes the heat was intense, but not enough to burn your arms and legs, and I was stood as close as you could get to the display line with the crash crew (fire men)
Was there on that day, only 5 at the time and didn't really fully understand the implications. It's awful watching this knowing that it's gonna happen. Horrible.
He gave a hell of a display, we watched from some hills nearby, (Duxford was coming up and couldn't afford for us all to go here too), honestly he gave it some, such a shame.
Was there that day. I remember the shock I felt and the disgust I felt when I saw a young couple trying to demand their money back because the show was interrupted.
@@mtlassen1992 I wish I was. I was there with my partner and our 8 year old daughter. The couple were arguing with one of the site officials as we walked passed them.
first time ive seen even though I was there, missed it while in a very long hot dog stand que. Been back recently to see whats left of Woodford Avro buildings.
I was there,sad day. If I remember rightly the engine didn't sound good for the whole display, I also remember he dropped the under carriage to land half way into the display, but the engine sounded like it cleaned up and he carried on. I was 8 and i will always remember the sound of a merlin coming out of a loop the explosion then silence.
It was a Griffon engine, hence some thought it was running rough due to the different sound it makes from the Merlin. This accident was nothing other than pilot error, a sad day on what should have been one of the very best Woodford shows, I wont forget seeing the Russian Test pilots flying just inches apart when the flying display resumed. I attended many shows back then, and for a year or two after could not watch warbirds performing a loop.
Terry, Found this after it coming up in conversation at the blackpool airshow this weekend. Your mum and dad brought me along too, a sad day and a great day all in one. I remember me and you looking at each other in disbelief on the top of your dad's van as it happened. It has never left my memory.
@@DJSbros It was pretty normal for engines designed in the 1930s. Direct fuel injection was the solution but it was only coming in during the 1930s - mainly on German engines.
He was too low to pull out of the manoeuvre. Pilot error, sadly. There was nothing wrong with the aircraft - Griffon engines always sounded 'a bit different', and more powerful than the Merlin from which they evolved. It was sickening to witness it.
This is the sort of event that puts me off airshows, although I have been to a few, and most go without serious incident. But when things go wrong, they can go badly wrong. That, and I often have dreams about witnessing unsurvivable air crashes. Reminds me of the crash of the Lockheed Lightning at Duxford in the 90s, which cost the life of a leading display pilot.
Like many here I was also there and unfortunately as a keen photographer I have a series of stills of the display and the accident, so sad to see someone killed doing something to entertain and educate others. I believe the investigation showed the QFE was incorrectly set hence being too low in the loop for ground clearance as the instruments such as the altimeter would be reading incorrectly. RiP Sir xx
My brother was at this with his mate , he just showed it me... dam. We lived in Disley. We used to go Airshow or up to Lyme Park and watch them fly over to Woodford. They used to fly over our Primary school to pre up to the airshows at weekend.
Several reports of the engine miss-firing (presumably a Griffon). If this was before entering a low(ish) loop then it was probably quite high risk....during the pull-out, it looked like he could have encountered a 'deep stall'. I imagine the AAIB wouldn't have had all that much to work with after such a ferocious fire. RIP the pilot - sometimes they have to make difficult decisions, however, the safety of the crowd should be paramount.
I was there with my heavily pregnant wife. The shock sent her into early labour.she had to be passed over the fence by the parked helicopters to a waiting ambulance. We had to pass the burning wreckage on the way out, and were given a police escort to stepping hills hospital. I am convinced to this day that they thought the pilot was on board.
I remember this my brother in law worked at woodford they all got tickets I stayed with my sister in poynton, they all came back from the show in shock and upset..
I was there as well. Instilled a fear of flying in me for quite awhile. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a F-18 almost crash on take off, the Harrier blew a tire when it landed and the Red Arrows flew the missing man formation for him to close the show. I just remember watching the russians thinking "those guys are freaking crazy"
You are quite right about the F-18 hornet, it was from the US Navy and along with an F14 Tomcat was quite a coup for Woodford. His wing tip was inches from the ground as he pulled a knife edge a split second after becoming airborne. I spoke to the pilot later who was quite open that he was very lucky and that he had been totally responsible for making a mistake that he felt should have cost him a life "if i were a cat I sure used one of my lives".
Man, that Spitfire crash haunted me, i was 11. I remember reading an article in the paper and finding out his name. The name 'David Moore' I'll never forget - Also, the fact he had four kids... I also remember the F-18 incident. Although my childhood memory, up until reading these comments, was telling me it was a Sukhoi su27 but, that wing tip was inches away from touching the ground. As tragic as it was that year, the Woodford airshows were always spectacular and provided a lot of inspiration for me as child. I wish they would bring them back, I would love to take my daughter.
David Moore, 47 years old, 70 hours flying the Spitfire. Good, aggressive pilot, but one moment's misjudgement stunting at ground level like this is fatal.
If anything i think it was being flown too carefully if it had been wound up entering the loop at the correct speed it would have climbed to the gate height and completed the manouvre safely there is a fine line on warbirds between flying displays safely and preserving a very expensive engine and airframe speed is your friend. @@erichhartmann1
I was there too, aged 16. The story I heard at the time was that his engine had been cutting out during the show and that he lost power during the loop and couldn't complete the maneuver. No idea if that was the case or not.
At first sight, i would tell the pilot made a too risky move. But it also seems that the plane didn't respond as he pulled. Maybe he lost too much speed....
@@paulmorris8094 -yeah when they're let off the leash at air shows they go bananas, a bit like wild students who go to uni and are off the leash of mummy and daddy..:)
Yep..! Was there with Kids. Very sad. They upset so told em it just a "Big Model". I remember "Russian Knights" flying approx two hours later as a Mark Of Respect. A very Hot Day..
Awful.....the woman near the end with her head in her hands, bet she was glad she didn't see the crash in person. Hope to goodness she wasn't a friend of the pilots, hiding her head because she was afraid?
I was there that day, 16 and just remember numbness around me, and shock. But they carried on the show about a little while later saying that is what he would have wanted (and he probably would have), with the red arrows be one of a few more carrying out a display.
I was there. 8 years old and I remember every detail like it was yesterday. Even the smell and the heat. Sorry for his family. RIP
I was there as well mate.... Never forget the day
I was 6 and I was there too.
7 y/o.. Smell and the heat.. I can't believe this actually exists on youtube. RIP
Me too, as a 9 year old :(
Yep, the smell and heat was unreal, I was 14,
Remember it vividly, this is the first time I have seen footage of the accident - it brought back that feeling of shock and disbelief. Sad day. Thanks for sharing
I can still feel my stomach pit when he was at the top of the loop. I knew it was coming. I will never forget it. I was close enough to feel the thud...i had an immediate fear of flying for several years until i became a private pilot to over come it
It was awful. Can't imagine how his family must have felt because the way I felt was bad enough and I didn't even know him. I can see it in my mind like yesterday. I was also scared for my dad as he had gone to get drinks and was gone for ages and I thought he had been hit by flying debris or something. Turns out he had been stood chatting with loads of people about what had just happened.
I wish Woodford aerodrome was still there in all its glory and that airshows were still held there. I'd love to be able to show my mutants the incredible times we had there x
Isn't it contradictory to say that this footage brought back sad memories to you but at the same time you thank for sharing it? In this situation I wouldn't have even bothered to watch it; not at least thanking for having posted it.
@@Alantheleopard Guess so, yet rememberance is not necessarily about pleasure
I never expected to see a vid of this. I was somewhere in that crowd at the time, at 10 years old. A sad day :(, Rest in peace!
RIP Dave moore he was a wonderful pilot and a amazing person. Big hugs his family and friends.
It may surprise a lot of people, but what survived of G-ALGT is actually being restored at Biggin Hill to a full aircraft - obviously with little of the original airframe being involved. It's a very complex process rebuilding/restoring warbirds to satisfy CAA requirements especially to verify what ID the frame will actually have, and to gain a certificate of airworthiness.....
Awful 😱. The main issue I think was not how low the loop was started but the fact the entry speed was too low by about 40 knots. This therefore caused the loop to top out too low, and at that point, having realised the “gate height” hadn’t been achieved, the pilot should have done an escape manoeuvre and rolled out at the top - the AAIB report even mentions that other pilots watching this expected him to escape in this way. This therefore sadly has major parallels with Shoreham. RIP.
I remember that day, I was one of the Royal Engineers that provided the dummy bomb run explosions for the show earlier. We'd just packed up our kit and driven back across the runway from the grass behind it when the Spitfire crashed basically where we'd just driven. I think it was about 80yds from me when it hit. People were crying in the crowd near by and we were full of adrenaline after realising how close we'd come to being hit by it.
Sadly there was nothing that could be done for the pilot, with the fuel tanks going up right underneath him it was mercifully quick.
I was there too. I was 9 years old. But as I remember people didn't carry on as if nothing had happened at all. The whole place went silent in shock then people screamed and cried. It was awful. Never forgotten it.
Yeah. The Red Arrows doing the missing man flyby at the end still brings tears to my eyes
Etched in my mind...I was 9 when this happened. Just remember the heat and the immediate silence of the engine. I remember my Grandad getting into a fist fight with a bunch of wankers in front of us who were laughing.
goodness that's just disrespectful. Good on your Grandad for that.
Pure disrespect. Props to your grandpa
Hope he knocked them out
I hope they didn't beat the shit out of your grandad.
I remember being there i think i was 16 my thoughts as always are with pilots family ⚘
I was at this show too. Can’t believe it was 1992. It seems like just the other day. I remember the pilot lying on the grass next to the Spitfire, just chilling with his family and enjoying the nice weather. Terribly sad.
I met Dave a couple of times at computer club meet ups. He was a lovely chap.
He used to fly Phantoms off the Ark Royal. He showed us a video of when he
was flying in formation with Norwegian F-16s
Terry ,the MK.XIV ,I believe had the Griffon engine ,?
Yes, the MkXIV is Griffon powered. The Griffon gives a much deeper sound compared to the Merlin.
Yeah the Griffin engine has more of a growl
And it's just as capable of killing the pilot when he makes a mistake. :-/ A lot of pilots died during training flights, and pilots in air displays face the same. risks as they did, in aircraft which are many years past their design life of no more than a few months.
I remember this as I was actually there that day when it happened, I was only 15 years old back then, and I knew when the pilot of that Spitfire did that loop I just knew he did it to low and there was no getting out of it, and when I saw the pilot just hit the runway right in front of me as I was stood at the front of the barrier and he hit the ground right opposite me to where I was stood, and when he hit the runway in front of me and the pilot was engulfed by flames my legs just turned to jelly and I just felt like I wanted to throw up and be sick cause of the shock of what had happened, as it was my first time in my life of seeing someone being killed in person and the way he was killed, it was just devastating, I'll never forget that day for as long as I live.
+Tommy L Yeah I remember it well dude, I had to sit down on the grass where I was stood at the barrier as my legs turned to jelly and I just felt sick like I wanted to throw up, my dad had to pass me some water and try and get me to take deep breaths and try and calm down, he said I just have to accept it, its just life, people die in many ways he said, but I was pretty devastated, I also feel bad for his wife and children and the rest of his family and friends, I just hope his funeral was a well deserved turn out and an honorable one to.
+Obsidian Rock I was also there Kane... I was a young lad who worked on the maintenance dept. I joined Woodford fire service in 86. I'm now at Manchester. I will never forget this crash.
KANE RedMonster I'm sorry about your experience with this event. I had an identical thing happen when I was 15, just a few years after this one happened.
I was with family at MCAS El Toro for an airshow in 1995. I was front row for an F-86 Sabre crash that was a result of a low loop. Your reaction was very much the same as mine.
I suppose if you're going to airshows often enough, you'll eventually see an accident.
I just found this footage. brings back lots of memories.
I was there also, i could feel the heat from the flames (Although it was a very Hot day) On my face, i was 11 at the time. My first Airshow.
i wasnt there but my dad was talking to the pilot before he took off
Can't believe there's a video of this. I was there, aged 7.
Sadly I was there with my young family too. We saw the whole thing ...the spits engine seemed to be missing as it went over us for the last time it just never made the bottom of the loop ....it was the last ever airshow we ever went to ....
Sad day. I'd long forgotten my brother was doing the announcements for lost children at the start of this video. I was stood with the crash crew when this happened so i was about as close as you could get to the impact. The hear was immense and i considered lying flat at one point to shield my face from the heat, but by the time i'd decided to do that, the heat was over.
I remember it well. I was there with my family. I was 7 years old and I just remember hearing the crowd erupt in a defeating sound. My parents put their hands over my eyes and said we need to go. We were all silent in the car.
I was 6 years old - remember it like nothing else and still have nightmares about it today. Probably because this being my Dad's favourite plane we really didn''t take our eyes of the whole display. The image of the rolling tire and the policeman froze on the spot wobbling in the heat will probably never leave me. RIP. x
Same as Beth Jacques, I was there and the Shoreham accident triggered memories of this day, it still haunts me, why I watched this footage - I don't know, thoughts and prayers with all concerned.
I was there, I was only 6 but I'll always remember the horrible bang when the plane hit the ground after doing the loop too low. It was a lovely hot day but it was ruined in an instant. RIP.
so was I :( I must have also been only 5 or 6 too. unforgettable
I was there as well.... was the best day until this happened... I'm now at Manchester Airport (Fire Service)
Remember this so vividly, it was horrific.. I was only a kid at the time.
I remember seeing this when I was 9. Was really frightening & still remember it in so much detail, I think this has contributed to my fear in flying, god bless the pilot 🙏 & his family. It made me feel sad as he was putting on a magnificent show for the joy of the crowd 😢
I also remember people screaming to stop filming saying it's sick & the change in the noise of the engine as it surged to the ground.
Aerobatic flying, is by its nature, much more dangerous than straightforward flying. Add to that using an old aircraft, as they can be temperamental. Crashes like this put me off airshows, but not actually going up in most aircraft.
This still haunts me. I was only 9 and saw this happen in front of my eyes. I remember it so clear seeing people continue to video n others shouting saying they were disrespectful. God bless the pilot and his family xx
I was there, too - as part of the Public Address team who installed the temporary sound system you can hear during the video.... in fact, I put up the speaker pole you can see right at the beginning!!
It was dreadful seeing David lose his life this way. The show was delayed for around four hours whlst they did investigation work and cleared the runway... the Sukhoi SU27 Flankers were first up in the air when the show restarted around 6.00pm... and they did their trademark vertical into tail stand manoeuvre immediately from take-off... the Jordanian air force crew were standing next to me and couldn't believe the madness they were seeing!
The commentator, Stratton Ritchie, was a personal friend of David's - you can hear it in his voice whilst asking the crowd to stay behind the barriers...
But like the public address team said - it's what he would have wanted, for the show to go on. Obviously these days you couldn't do that.
My condolences, bad situation all around. Hopefully the family is coping well, I know this isn’t the time for joy but at least he died doing something he loved. I’m so sorry for your loss.
R.I.P. Dave Moore. I too remember this like it was only yesterday. Like Terry Stockton said, the Spit`s engine didn`t sound too good and the pilot came in with wheels down and I thought that would be it. Then it seemed to pick up again and the show continued. As soon as he was at the top of the loop though and beginning to fall, I had an awful feeling he just wouldn`t have enough height to pull out. A very sad day and I can remember all the women and children sobbing soon after.
I met David Moor a few days before this at R.A.F. Fairford (R.I.A.T.) & the Spitfire was reunited with its original pilot from 303 (Polish) Squadron So very Sad
My one and only time at an airshow, quite horrific!
What happens to it
I was there that day as army liason for security, the pilot was a work colleague of my brother. A sad incident in an otherwise great day. Thanks to the Blue Eagles for making my son an honoury Blue Eagle and making a special day for him
I was here, I remember distinctly my dad who was stood next to me watching saying "he's killed himself here" when he was coming down from the top of the loop... unfortunately he was right. I remember that 'boof' sound of the fuel going up and that massive wall of heat. Sadly I was at Duxford a few years later when a P-38 lost control and had a similar outcome :
I was there. Today's accident at shoreham, brings back awful memories of the day I saw the spitfire crash and david Moore died :( x
I was there that day, it happened right in front of where I was sitting and I can still remember the heat from the explosion when it hit the ground. I think the most shocking thing for me was the fact that everything else in the show (fairground, stalls, etc) just carried on as though nothing had happened. A man had just died right in front of us and his family were there and saw it happen. Still shocks me now watching this, very sad.
+meem1770 Really? that shows utter disrespect. [stallholders carrying on to gain money after a tragic accident] Maybe the average Joe and Josephine just don't really think too deeply..to them ''oh look, a plane has crashed, more tea, dear? how about a nice ride on the dodgems?, ice-cream? ..it is the same thing that makes people grumble when their train has been 'delayed' because of a suicide, people just don't think beyond their own little humdrum lives. A friend said she was also here while this took place, and the support crew were terribly distressed.
Oakleaf700 fuck you mate
I was there too, and they later resumed the airshow. Life sadly goes on, they did the right thing. The stall holders would have paid a lot of money to be there, shutting up shop would have cost them dearly. Had it been me in the plane, I would have wanted the show to go on.
I was there in 92 on the industrial estate opposite stood on top of a container and when he passed it did miss-fire then he started the loop as he came round I said he's not going to make it, everybody look up and bang into the ground followed seconds later by the boom ,they brought the pilot out passed us about 3 hour later... R.I.P
The misfire would not have been a factor. Both Merlins and Griffons always misfired when inverted due to negative G affecting fuel flow in the carbs.
The crash happened because the pilot did not commence his manoeuver with enough recovery altitude.
I was here for that too, I just saw an article about 'the first news story you remember'. This was mine, I remember coming home from the show and it was the first thing we saw on the TV. I didn't fully understand the weight of the situation while I was there with my parents as I was only five. Poor pilot.
Was watching from Tip Hill in Poynton
holy crap!!!!! this footage is very good, did they find out what was wrong with the plane ore was it pilot error. RIP David Moore
was it absolutely unrecoverable?
He was just too low
Horrible day. I was 11 year old at the time and was with my Dad. I didn't see it impact the ground but I remember the thud and everything else from the video. I was very close to where this was filmed. RIP David Moore 🙏
I remember that day very vividly, I would have been around 12. Very hot day with a very sad incident. After a delay they continued with the red arrows display. That would never happen now after such an event. When we arrived home my next door neighbour who worked at the plant arrived home in tears at what had happened.
Shocking crash, I hope to see ALGT restored soon flying in the pilots memory.
Looks like it's happening
I was also there that sad day, then about 5 years later I was at Barton when the Mosquito crashed, my video of that crash is on UA-cam
That was one of our Woodford pilots
The pilot was called David moor I was only 10 years old and I still remember his name. I didn’t realise what had happened at first. Lots of people left the show when this happened.
@@montylescalier2209 I know your comment is 2 yrs old, but you're still nob.
What on earth happened ?? looked like a very shallow high speed impact, all these vintage aircraft accidents are desperately sad, not only for the loss of the aircraft but obviously the people too :(
Very sad. We all love to see these wonderful old birds fly but why not keep it straight and level. UA-cam is full of these bottom of the loop crashes, another very rare aircraft and a human life gone forever.
Monty Lescalier I was only there to see the Vulcan bomber 👌
+rlr50 The remains of the aircraft (RM 689) were purchased by Rolls Royce. The intent was to rebuild it again to flying condition and substantial rebuild work has been completed. First it was going to fly again and then it wasn't and it may have a new owner now. Regardless it has made a long journey back to most of a Spitfire that may fly again some day.
If it flies again, it will crash again!
A lot of these warbird rebuilds are in effect, "Trigger's Brooms." Very little of the original material. But if I was a display pilot, qualified to fly Spitfires, I wouldn't fly that one.
I to was there in fact, I was on duty with st. john ambulance brigade and was 'posted' next to the access gate - the heat was immense #sadday
There are several accounts of what happened on the web including sections of the AAIB report. Several point to lack of power others to pilot error, search the aircraft registration and it wont take long to find information relating to this aircraft its history and demise
When the Mosquito crashed a few years later, they discovered that both carburettors were badly worn; one more so than the other. This was causing fuel starvation - one third of the intended fuel to one engine, and one tenth to the other, at full power. As a consequence, Rolls Royce inspected the carburettors on all serviceable Merlin and Griffin engines, and found that they all needed attention. This pilot was flying too low, clearly, but he could also have been another victim of a faulty carburettor.
I remember hearing Spitfires and Hurricanes misfiring and throwing out smoke during fairly innocuous manoeuvres, back in the 1970's and 1980's. You almost never hear it nowadays.
I was 11 and even at that age I knew something was wrong, the engine was spluttering earlier. RIP Sir.
The pilot was Brian moor, i remember seeing him just before this last flight and thought "I want to be a pilot, and fly planes" (..and yes i do now) ..but the thing i remember is the mighty thud when the spit hit the ground and the heat burning my face and legs, my dad just said "Its time to go home now" and we went, being ex RAF my dad knew respect is not to watch the aftermath of a (deathcrash) but to move on and hold them in our harts "Lest We Forget".
The Pilot was David Moore. Yes the heat was intense, but not enough to burn your arms and legs, and I was stood as close as you could get to the display line with the crash crew (fire men)
R.I.P Mr Dave Moore…🌺🇬🇧
The sterlings... I was also eight years old when I saw it, and still remember it vividly :( x
Joseph pogsen are you here? We was 8.
I was at this airshow and saw this crash, while I was posted on the Red Arrows with the RAF. Shame about losing a Spitfire as well as the pilot.
Was there on that day, only 5 at the time and didn't really fully understand the implications. It's awful watching this knowing that it's gonna happen. Horrible.
I was there that day watching the spitfire from a distance the red arrows did a tribute flight later that day
He gave a hell of a display, we watched from some hills nearby, (Duxford was coming up and couldn't afford for us all to go here too), honestly he gave it some, such a shame.
I was there with three of my friends it was a sad day.
Was there that day. I remember the shock I felt and the disgust I felt when I saw a young couple trying to demand their money back because the show was interrupted.
You are kidding??
@@mtlassen1992 I wish I was. I was there with my partner and our 8 year old daughter. The couple were arguing with one of the site officials as we walked passed them.
@@Hobbs-1 actually that doesn't surprise me. Some people make me sick.
Looks like the emergency services did a great job and got there fast.
Not sure what you mean by what the f**k????-----?.
The crews did good... Unfortunately the pilot was beyond saving
@@russmcculloch2432 yeah he was killed on impact. R.I.P
quickly not fast.
he started the loop too low.
first time ive seen even though I was there, missed it while in a very long hot dog stand que. Been back recently to see whats left of Woodford Avro buildings.
I was there,sad day. If I remember rightly the engine didn't sound good for the whole display, I also remember he dropped the under carriage to land half way into the display, but the engine sounded like it cleaned up and he carried on. I was 8 and i will always remember the sound of a merlin coming out of a loop the explosion then silence.
It was a Griffon engine, hence some thought it was running rough due to the different sound it makes from the Merlin.
This accident was nothing other than pilot error, a sad day on what should have been one of the very best Woodford shows, I wont forget seeing the Russian Test pilots flying just inches apart when the flying display resumed. I attended many shows back then, and for a year or two after could not watch warbirds performing a loop.
Terry, Found this after it coming up in conversation at the blackpool airshow this weekend. Your mum and dad brought me along too, a sad day and a great day all in one. I remember me and you looking at each other in disbelief on the top of your dad's van as it happened. It has never left my memory.
I was there also. So very sad.
Spitfires carburettor systems never did like doing loops, cavitation always a big problem
Seems strange for a aircraft designed for dogfighting.
That wasn't the reasoning behind this crash, this was purely flying too low. But you're right on the carburettor not liking inverted flight
@@DJSbros It was pretty normal for engines designed in the 1930s. Direct fuel injection was the solution but it was only coming in during the 1930s - mainly on German engines.
3:42 @@michaelknott4361
Classic CFIT...... Rip.... Tragic beyond words.....
Pilots seem to go nuts at airshows.
Strange. Everything looked ok. Wonder if they ever determined the cause?
He was too low to pull out of the manoeuvre. Pilot error, sadly. There was nothing wrong with the aircraft - Griffon engines always sounded 'a bit different', and more powerful than the Merlin from which they evolved. It was sickening to witness it.
This is the sort of event that puts me off airshows, although I have been to a few, and most go without serious incident. But when things go wrong, they can go badly wrong. That, and I often have dreams about witnessing unsurvivable air crashes. Reminds me of the crash of the Lockheed Lightning at Duxford in the 90s, which cost the life of a leading display pilot.
Like many here I was also there and unfortunately as a keen photographer I have a series of stills of the display and the accident, so sad to see someone killed doing something to entertain and educate others. I believe the investigation showed the QFE was incorrectly set hence being too low in the loop for ground clearance as the instruments such as the altimeter would be reading incorrectly. RiP Sir xx
I was there to remember it hitting the ground heat was intense and saw the engine rolling down the runway
It seemed he did many maneuvers that put a lot of stress on the aircraft.
No - he didn't.
It was pilot error rather than structural failure that caused the tragedy.
The loss of a great man and a great aircraft
2:16 it’s almost like she knew something bad was about to happen
sad day was there myself with my wife
My brother was at this with his mate , he just showed it me... dam. We lived in Disley. We used to go Airshow or up to Lyme Park and watch them fly over to Woodford. They used to fly over our Primary school to pre up to the airshows at weekend.
Several reports of the engine miss-firing (presumably a Griffon). If this was before entering a low(ish) loop then it was probably quite high risk....during the pull-out, it looked like he could have encountered a 'deep stall'. I imagine the AAIB wouldn't have had all that much to work with after such a ferocious fire. RIP the pilot - sometimes they have to make difficult decisions, however, the safety of the crowd should be paramount.
I was there with my heavily pregnant wife. The shock sent her into early labour.she had to be passed over the fence by the parked helicopters to a waiting ambulance. We had to pass the burning wreckage on the way out, and were given a police escort to stepping hills hospital. I am convinced to this day that they thought the pilot was on board.
I remember this my brother in law worked at woodford they all got tickets I stayed with my sister in poynton, they all came back from the show in shock and upset..
poignton
looks like everyone in the comment section had seen this in real life
Rest in Power Sky-Cheif. 😓💐
I was there that day, horrible to witness
The Griffon sounds very different from the Merlin, doesn't it?!
I was there as well. Instilled a fear of flying in me for quite awhile. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a F-18 almost crash on take off, the Harrier blew a tire when it landed and the Red Arrows flew the missing man formation for him to close the show. I just remember watching the russians thinking "those guys are freaking crazy"
You are quite right about the F-18 hornet, it was from the US Navy and along with an F14 Tomcat was quite a coup for Woodford. His wing tip was inches from the ground as he pulled a knife edge a split second after becoming airborne.
I spoke to the pilot later who was quite open that he was very lucky and that he had been totally responsible for making a mistake that he felt should have cost him a life "if i were a cat I sure used one of my lives".
have a look at ua-cam.com/video/cESkImG7eQk/v-deo.html this will confirm your memories this is from the same 8mm tape regards M
Man, that Spitfire crash haunted me, i was 11. I remember reading an article in the paper and finding out his name. The name 'David Moore' I'll never forget - Also, the fact he had four kids... I also remember the F-18 incident. Although my childhood memory, up until reading these comments, was telling me it was a Sukhoi su27 but, that wing tip was inches away from touching the ground.
As tragic as it was that year, the Woodford airshows were always spectacular and provided a lot of inspiration for me as child. I wish they would bring them back, I would love to take my daughter.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Single engined fighters, and the sky so big
Sad to say i was there and saw this happen .
I think more vintage planes have been lost in airshow crashes than in the whole of WW2
David Moore, 47 years old, 70 hours flying the Spitfire. Good, aggressive pilot, but one moment's misjudgement stunting at ground level like this is fatal.
Aggressive and a World War Two Spitfire that should be flown with care don’t exactly belong together in my opinion.
@@erichhartmann1 It's a good quality in a fighter pilot.
@@erichhartmann1 Well said! He should not have been flying this aircraft.
If anything i think it was being flown too carefully if it had been wound up entering the loop at the correct speed it would have climbed to the gate height and completed the manouvre safely there is a fine line on warbirds between flying displays safely and preserving a very expensive engine and airframe speed is your friend. @@erichhartmann1
I think the pilot may well have passed out after that dive....even a couple of seconds is enough take it too far to pull out poor guy!
I was there at age 14 and saw this. Looks like he started the loop too low and slow, also the engine sounded rough. Very sad.
I was there too, aged 16. The story I heard at the time was that his engine had been cutting out during the show and that he lost power during the loop and couldn't complete the maneuver. No idea if that was the case or not.
At first sight, i would tell the pilot made a too risky move. But it also seems that the plane didn't respond as he pulled.
Maybe he lost too much speed....
MabhzLeader The pilot was coming out of a loop. It was a high speed stall.
RIP
He got probably got the the dream before he died fly the spitfire rip
Pilot error like the vast majority of air display crashes.
@@paulmorris8094 -yeah when they're let off the leash at air shows they go bananas, a bit like wild students who go to uni and are off the leash of mummy and daddy..:)
Yep..! Was there with Kids. Very sad. They upset so told em it just a "Big Model". I remember "Russian Knights" flying approx two hours later as a Mark Of Respect. A very Hot Day..
Awful.....the woman near the end with her head in her hands, bet she was glad she didn't see the crash in person. Hope to goodness she wasn't a friend of the pilots, hiding her head because she was afraid?
Being rebuilt on the Isle of Wight.
not much left of it!
Rolls Royce got to a good stage of the restoration, and how did you know it was now at Isle of Wight?
Ford Cortina estate Carmichael conversion.
I was there that day, 16 and just remember numbness around me, and shock. But they carried on the show about a little while later saying that is what he would have wanted (and he probably would have), with the red arrows be one of a few more carrying out a display.
Ooohhhh my God!!!!!!