MotoGP - West German 500cc GP - Hockenheimring - 1989.
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2012
- A Great Circuit now ruined by the F1 Bore Fest Brigade.This was also the last"West German Grand Prix",because later this year the Berlin Wall came down,from then on it became the"German Grand Prix".
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Incredible, 10 years after this video was posted and 34 years after this race I'm here clapping my hands and cheering seeing these heroes...The golden age of motorcycling...Thank you...
Golden age of Motorsport..
Kevin
Eddie, et surtout FREDDIE❤️💫🇮🇲 resterons vraiment a Honda,
Incroyable, et réellement CRÉDIBLE 😂🤔👏👆👆🎈🎈❤️
Bloody oath mate
Wow. Despite being much more of an F1 fan, even I can recognize the number of legend riders in this race. Doohan, Rainey, Lawson, Schwantz, etc. 👍🏼
I see a lot of comments here praising the old two stroke races/racers...I count myself lucky to have had a taste of it myself. I grew up on mini bikes, mini cycles (we owned a Bonanza mini cycle with a Hodaka 100cc 5 speed motorcycle engine), enduro bikes and then motocross bikes where I earned AMA Expert Class Licenses in both 125cc and 250cc class in the early 70's while I was still in H.S. Then as I was about to hang my racing boots up and head off to Engineering college my local Yamaha dealer/sponsor (Island Yamaha in Merritt Island, Fl.) asked me if I was interested in running a partial season on a brand new 1975 TZ-250, I jumped at the chance...the caveat was I needed to turn some practice laps and get their blessing...so myself and a couple other potential riders went to Sebring for some shakedown and practice times and though I had never been on even a fast street bike I felt very comfortable on the TZ and I guess my lap times were good enough that I got the ride. Anyway long story short, we went to Daytona in '75 and ran in several of the 250 class prelim races and I had the distinct pleasure of being passed in open practice by Mr. Roberts on his TZ-700/750, he went around me in the first turn into the infield coming off the high bank front straight and I did my best to tuck in behind him, hoping to learn something from his line...lol...what I learned was KR had other wordly talent and rode the pants off his TZ-750...he would slide it all the way across the track under power when coming out of the turns...I almost ran myself into the infield watching his line when I should have been paying attention to mine....what a great experience. I ended up running in 3 other races during the winter/spring months my Sr. year in H.S. and then as I mentioned above I was off to Engineering College (FTU in Orlando. now known as University of Central Florida/UCF). I just retired from Lockheed Martin here in Orlando in 2016 after 32 years.
lol@ old ppl trying to use the internet
Awesome story man, thank you for sharing, I could only imagine riding extremely tuned bikes without any electric and computer aids of today's bikes, even the street bike I ride has abs and such lol, I'm 37 now but grew up riding a 84 YZ490, couldn't imagine riding something like that only with multiple cylinders, on tarmac with slicks lol, you're a bad man 💪😎👍
The younger generation don't know shit,i'm 56 nearly 35 years of riding,these men were heros of the day,no one can do what they did on these beasts
@@peterkwakman7440 Yes they were great but no better than the current crop who, if they had to, would ride those old bikes just as well.
Awesome story man! Thanks for sharing, and phew! what a life eh? sweet memories.
This race is packed with legends!
What a line up! You’d be hard pushed to get that many legends of any sport competing at the same time, what a treat :)
I saw the thumbnail and already thought "wow, incredible", the rest is pure magic.
I was in front of the TV when, few years later, Schwantz made that fantastic overtake on Rainey before entering the last lap's motodrome.
I'm not telling that modern MotoGP drivers are less competitive or skilled but for me these guys were legends...
Absolutely correct my friend.
No political shit, no safety over-the-top bull. Real men, much better times for shure !!!
I was 16 years old when i saw this live on TV. Since the 89 season i have loved GP bikes and watched it religiously ever since. This was an amazing time in bike racing though.
The 'Ostkurve' flat out without a chicane must have been thrilling on a motorcycle
Que saudade... Tinha 10 anos na época desta corrida e já era muito fã do Wayne Rainey... Saia na minha bike BMX imaginando ser ele e sonhando um dia correr na antiga 500cc. ❤ Era um tempo muito bom...
Here we are almost 30 years later, and my heart still speeds up as the race goes on.
And I love this race.. crazy 2 stroke Era. I was 10 years old
I got goosebumps when I saw that most of the riders were the legends of GP, including a 20-year old Mick Doohan. Thanks for posting this!
Quick Mick
The commentator got it wrong. Doohan would have been 24 in 1989
Rookie year for Mick
He wasn't 20
Yeah commentary mistake for sure, Doohan was 24. He also said Schwantz is 6"2 when in reality he's around 5"10/11
Probably one of the better showdowns between Steady Eddie and Rainey.
Kevin Schwantz...Fast Freddie Spencer...Wayne Rainey...omg these whre the times of real MotoGP...with the allmighty light and very powerfull 2-stroke bikes...
gixxerboy555 no
!989 was also pre-big-bang days, too. The only traction control was the connection between the brain and the right wrist.
All the little Spaniards couldn't even ride these bikes. Not strong enough to muscle them around the track. Skill and strength required on these beasts
Maybe Kevin could have done it ?
Fourstroke fucked up motorcycle racing
Golden age of motorcicle racing....two stroke engines, animal power ....real pilots... the good old days
And a Lovely year to revisit it in 2020, cos there is SOD ALL ELSE ON!
Shame I can't find WHOLE SEASONS, I could happily go from 89 to 1994 in a binge watch session!
Now we could have 400hp four stroke bikes but we don’t because no one could ride it
Hear, hear!
At that year i started seeing motorcycling grand prix..great years..great races...great raiders...great bikes...great circuits...
Great to see Spencer riding , young upstarts racing the 89 season ‘Mike’ 😂 (Mick) Doohan ,49’ little John Kocinski , Kevin Magee, Bubba Shobert , Mackenzie 😁 Great decades 80’s and 90’s to be a GP fan 👍🏻😎
What a great ride by Wayne...he was a superb GP500 rider...so sad he took the spill that left him in a wheel chair...
Absolutely. I was a huge fan of him, he drove over the problems, he was great
Those days when you run out of VHS' so you had to sacrifice taping over something else.
I’ve actually over recorded some bloody good stuff., sad to say
this is where asshole Gardner with broken toes was bitching about all the luck Rainey had
Agreed...agreed...😂
Porn😀
Troubled with the decision whether to tape over The Young ones or the snooker Lol.
Much appreciated uploader, 36 500s on the grid and a whole bunch of the greats putting on a show at one of the all time no nonsense tracks.
Ah yes, the golden era :-))
I remember watching bikes and f1's on the old track on TV back in the late 80's early 90's.
The safety details - hay bales leaning against the Armco.. no run off, no tyre walls, no air fence.
I used to have this on tape as well. It’s a great race, thank you for the upload. I guess there was a European heatwave that day. As soon as the race was finished we all revved up and went and met up to do our analysis 😀. Hockenheim was a great circuit I also read somewhere this was one of Wayne Rainey’s favourite races, it’s one of mine. Philip Island 1989 is another great race, thank you again 👌
Can't believe I found this telecast, 33 years after seeing it live in Hockenheim!
Thanks for the download,them days was packed with talent.
An excellent race, thanks for posting this great memory. It also helps me appreciate our modern day commentators for their abilities.... ;)
If i could ever wish for one thing, is that they had HD cameras. Imagine how many racing classics would we be able to relive in full detail.
I don't know about that, I like the nostalgic look. I know its not great, but it's how we saw it back in the day
Amazing how many riders back then, shame it's so expensive these days. Be great to have more bikes in GP today.
Meanwhile I’m just getting into bikes after being an F1 fan so modern MotoGP feels busy compared to a 20 car grid
Recorded live from BBC TV in 1989 still on original VHS tape.
Ty.
If They Don't have the rights to show it, It's invisible to the BBC .
@@yds250 In which case, they get increasingly fucked every time the Sports Review comes along. They really need to get their shit together.
Jesus, the least thing you could have done, was buying an S-VHS recorder. More lines in a frame and better tape quality, allowing for a nicer video. But no, you stuck to that consumer shit. WHY?!
@@voornaam3191 Dude you realize he has to go home and put this tape in the vcr EVERYTIME someone clicks this video to watch it!
So so so nice to have watched racing when traction control was the riders right hand. And I don't care what anyone says, those bikes looked way WAY more badass than what we got today.
totally agree
Absolutely!
Bom dia meu Amigo !!!!
Grande época do Mundial de motovelocidade.
As 500cc andavam muito.
E quanta saudade desses pilotos fantásticos.
E essa pista, hockenhein no traçado original.
Só saudades dessa época maravilhosa......
Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
Abraço do Brasil......
Hockenheinring antes de ter sido mutilada por Tilke , da saudades
@@bernhardjordan9200 boa tarde.
Dá até uma dor no coração ver esse novo traçado ridículo.
A Pista antiga é linda demais.
Obrigado pelo seu comentário e um grande abraço.
Quando 500 é mais que 1000..
Saudades 2Tempos.
👏👏👏
Oh Great Race! Thank you for posting it!
Superb. Thanks for the upload!
thanks up load to remain my golden age‼️
Go Kevin GO !! on the fabulous RG500 'Pepsi' Suzuki
He's riding the RGV500 here,the V 4.The RG 500 was a square four and was used until 1986,from 86-2001 they used the RGV500.
I wasn't even born in 89'. But after watching this, it makes me wonder just how skillful are the current motogp riders nowadays. These 500cc racers are Gods.....it's fascinating to see how they handle their beast of a machine with no electronic aids and a 2 stroke at that.
No point even trying, every era is different. The bikes/riders you have today reflect the current technology. Nothing stays the same!!
@@BlackRose-vi2yg .....so you're saying the more technology they put on the bike, the less skillful they become for relying too much on them??
No comparison, the last active Rider to race a 500 was Rossi and that was well into the electronic babysitters.
Esto si eran carreras de 500cc a mi viejo en paz descanse le encantaban las motos de esta EPOCA
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The improvements that Ed and Erv did to that mighty NSR DEFINITELY set the stage for Mick Doohan's 5 consecutive world championships - there was NOBODY better at developing a race bike that those 2 AMAZING individuals
That and Rainey’s crash. If Rainey was around it wouldn’t have happened
Eherm, I believe you mean "Mike" Doohan. 😏
@@gupiwa last time I checked, his name was MICHAEL, but everyone including his crew Jeremy Burgess called him MICK -
Eddie lawson would do constant development and testing with swingarms and different frames cause he had all the Honda factory helping him, gardner and doohan just rode the beast and tried to improve it themselves, they didn't get any of the so called factory parts or help from Honda, watch the unrideables to see how they talk about bike development, riders of today have no idea how much technical gizmos contribute to how they ride
5:31 A track camera layout diagram!??? GENIUS. We need this before all races
Dear yds250,
Thank you so much for posting this super cool race. I don't know how many times i've watched it already, and i've only started watching motogp1,2,3 and wsbk since round 5 donnington race 2 wsbk (laverty and melandri). When i had the einstein-like idea to look for other races to watch on the internet, little did i know i'd be introduced to rainey, schwantz, lawson, young doohan (got me panicking). I'm from america. motogp hardly exists. Anyway, you do a service to man, posting this race, Love you forever, and marc and alex marquez, d3mortar
ps happy superprestigeo!:D
Thanks for the Good memories 💨💪🔝
I didn’t know that MotoGP raced the old Hockenheim. What an iconic track
Only legends here , the golden age of motoracing no doubt about it !
Go back about twenty years for the really good stuff.
Motor acing?! Yeah right.
Clairement C'est vrai !
These bikes were beasts and these riders are legends
Around this time I was 17 years old just getting my first GSXR 750 street bike.
What a great race...I remember it well, 89 was a good year for me...
I miss the old Hockenheimring. F1 was much better when it raced on the old circuit.
+studley2436 They ruined Hockenheimring around 1970.
Yes, no comparison with the current layout. This was a classic...shame shame shame that's gone forever!
I was stationed about 10 miles from the track. Saw several car races but never bikes! Yes they didn’t go back into the Forest when I was there.
Hay bales in front of a metal guard rail at the end of high speed straight away...nice to know the FIM had the riders safety in mind when scheduling this race.
THESE BIKES LOOK BETTER THAN 2019 BIKES ANYDAY 👏🏼👏🏼🔥👏🏼👏🏼💯🏆
much better 3:07 , today's colours, sponsors..CRAP
I don´t think so.
Your poor taste. the latest are the best looking especially yamaha. these are ugly bikes
@@CoolAsianGuy the engine is not ugly tho
Yeah no these look like 80s bikes....funky. today's bikes look sleek, fast and sexy.
I so miss those days...
Amazing race D:
Hard to believe the bikes put out 100 more hp now😮
is it just me, or black numbers on yellow plates is just classy. Makes it a lot easier to read as well. white on green and white on black, not forgetting white on blue
It was DORNA that ditched the easy to read number font and different coloured plates to the different classes. They can make money from stylised numbers to a rider etc. The numbers are almost invisible from the trackside these days.
This is how the numbers should be. That’s how a race bike should look!!
Me from Australia I think Wayne R was the smartest GP rider of his day. He rode the way I wish I could have.
Época de grandisimo pilotos y gran respeto y sobre todo,adelantamientos limpios,no como lo que nos tienen acostumbrados Rossi y Marquez
35 in the field is good, but all the '80's races I've watched have the leaders approaching back markers just after the halfway point of race. Is that good or bad? A little more interesting, but I'll bet riders don't like it and it is only a mistake waiting to ruin a tight finish. This version of Hochenheimring looks incredibly fast. Most HP would win this race.
Thanks for the upload! Pure gold!
I noticed the description stating West German Grand Prix so I figured the race occurred before the unification of Germany, Berlin Wall was still up.
Thanks for sharing, Dorna videos ran in the $50.00 area stateside.
ありがとうございます。
いい映像を見させて頂きました。
This is not MotoGP, this is REAL GP racing! This is when it took talent to ride and go fast.
What a massive field. Thats amazing to see - I'd forgot how many they used to get! You dont see that anymore, infact you dont really see any good pack racing in Motogp.
How old school do the bikes look now and the old 3cyl hondas!! Yea they are old, but how horn do the 2 strokes sound compared to the motogp bikes.
Sad this race was just follow the leader, I miss those days with so many genuine legends battling for the win.
Thanks for uploading the race.
Real men on real bikes, fantastic! Just ordered a 900LC, based on the triple cylinder XSR900, looks like an RD350LC - cannot wait!
Lawson: "In Hockenheim we will need a Honda-lane!"
Rainey: "Watch this, steady-Eddie!"
You deserved much SO MUCH more of what you reaped, man. That day in Misano my hearth broke too.
Watching it live.A so silly crash ended like this.
It’s amazing how big the field is.
I can't believe that I was bored once, years ago, while my father was watching this race
Oh the smell of castrol R. GP racing at its best at a legendary track before they spoil it. These men were gods and those before them.
Those guys were the masters.....
What a great year it was in GP racing!
What a race. Those 500cc two strokes were animals that wanted to kill the riders. Must have been great to see , and the smell of two strokes as well. Brilliant.👍👍
I remember watching this, those were the days when we waited patiently to see these awesome lads toughing it out,fantastic, oh and as a laugh these machines had a wild 150bhp today's street bike's have over 200
Try like 300bhp!
@@NuvolariF1 Which ones?
They absolutely had more than 150 hp. A 500cc 2stroke grand prix bike? They were borderline uncontrollable in the wrong hands. Also a 150bhp 300lb lightweight bike is faster than a 200bhp 475lb heavy bike
Power to weight ratio....... No traction control or very limited...
@@NuvolariF1 No they dont lol
Then again there were maybe 5 race-winning bikes. The factory bikes were usually (quite literally) miles ahead. I remember our (swedish) rider in GP500 in '89 and '90 used a 1984 Honda NS500 Triple!!
yds250 You named "F1 Bore Fest Brigade" aptly! Thanks for this upload.
Super !! je les ais vu courir c'était génial ! de grands moments !
There will never be another era like this. Roberts,Lawson,Rainey,and Schwantz. All legends in their time. All on bikes that would kill you if you couldn’t keep up with them. Today’s Moto GP bikes are much like street bikes with all the electronic rider aids. Relatively easy to ride comparatively even with the huge power of today’s bikes.
Street bikes, relatively easy to ride. Yeah righto.
three legends Lawson, Rainy, Swanchz
And Doohan.
Good remebers and good riders in 2T. Big balls.
Greetings from Spain. ✌🏻✌🏻
So many back markers that got in the way back then and effected so many of the outcomes.
Great circuit, the trees, layout and of course great great riders from back then. Love this footage and thanks for posting the WHOLE race. Takes me back to when i was 18 when this was on BBC TV. The young presenter at the end is steve rider. Think he now does GOLF on the beeb. How times change. RAINEY SCHWANTZ DOOHAN LAWSON SPENCER. Epic riders who live on when 2 stroke 500s stopped. Anybody got a time machine? Thanks 4 posting!
you forgot Randy Mamola on the Cagiva!
Got Goosebumps, many legends there 😲
Que carrerooonnnn y parrilla de salida uuuuf, puro espectáculo, de mi adolescencia…
Slowest bike on the track was the most beautiful one: Mamola's Cagiva!
Not the slowest he finished 12th.
The US used to dominate MotoGP with Schwantz, Lawson, Rainey, Kosinski, Roberts, etc. Where are the Americans now?
You hear the commentator making a remark about Rainey having an extremely fast motorcycle which in my opinion wasn't due to any factory involvement, but because of a 2 stroke GENIUS by the name of BUD AKSLAND-
32:24, the great Randy Mamola. Also a mention for Pierfrancesco Chili.
Gracias por compartirlo
I might have a recording of this race on one of my tapes stored in my loft.
Got many seasons of tapes of GP500 and WSB up there. I Have to get them down and have a watch.
2stroke engine sound is the real sound of motorbike racing
Incrivel! isso sim é moto gp, bons tempos..
É isso mesmo,competição por prazer,amizade,convívio entre pilotos,tbm havia dinheiro claro,mas era mto diferente da ganância desmesurada que existe hoje...As grandes equipes só vêem números,títulos,etc...O mundo no geral tornou-se demasiado competitivo,mas tbm ganancioso...ABRAÇO,ALGARVE,PORTUGAL...
Director misses Rainey passing Lawson because he’s showing one of the locals going round in 19th place. Then more of the locals whilst a proper dice is on at the front. So glad there is more consistent broadcast production these days.
They might have more cameras today but it does not make it better. If there is a dice for second and third place you never see them finish because as soon as the first rider cross's the finish line they show the pit crew celebrating. So the director is as dire as the old days. But they have to please the sponsors over the spectical.
You know it's really old when they called it "West German"
It's not Old.. it's History :)
No, East German. Walter Kaaden was a twostroke genius. He and his team built faster bikes than the Japanese. Do you know this man?
Needed a MoToGP fix - and what a great way to get it!
superb...many thanks
Anyone rewatching this 1989 MotoGP race during 2020 covid19?
Yup!
Cómo se extraña ver una parrilla con tantas motos y tan parejas, tal que parece una carrera de moto 3!!!!
👏👏👏👏
Something that you can't say about today's moto GP, so buddy where did you finish? oooo hell 35th 😄😄😄
the smell os those 2t were so sweet. Seeing they starting the race it all came to me
Proving yet again that Yamaha always made the best 2 -strokes. :)
I remember watching this race almost holding my breathe throughout the whole thing.lol
Le vere moto con i veri piloti tutto finiva con una stretta di mano senza chiacchiere per farsi pubblicità....
Thanks for taking the trouble to upload. Rainey was sandbagging as he had a bit in hand for the last lap. Hockenheim was a fantastic track, along with Spa. Straights make for good racing, not corners.
Thanks to all guys who spent time to post wonderful videos! \m/
2 stroke legends.
Doohan.... the best of them all. Epic period in motorcycle history. 🚵
SkyPilot Better than Rossi?
i believe he meant out of the legends as shown on the video
Except he had to wait for Lawson to retire, Rainey to have his accident and Schwantz to lose interest before he could win his first title. Plus, he only ever did it on the Honda, which was a bike so superior that even Criville won a title on it. Rossi won on a Honda two stroke, a Honda four stroke and a Yamaha four stroke. Clearly the best rider of all modern times.
calibrazxr750 rossi won on a Honda 2 stroke with 10 years. Of development on it done by Steve burgess and Michael Doohan. When the era of the 4strokes came by it was easier for any two stroke rider to be successful on a 4 stroke. Rossi and Doohan were successful due to lack of competition and fairly well developed bikes for the era
Doohan's success came mainly between the Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz era and the Rossi, Biaggi, Stoner era. Rossi has had a much stronger field over the course of his career and he has won on different machines, proving that the deciding factor was him, not the bike. With Doohan, we will never really know if it was him or the bike.
Two strokes!! When men were men!! No TC, no wheelie control. As a kid I rode a 500 and thought i was Wayne. True, almost killed myself but can say i rode a 500 two stroke on the limit. God's will in still alive, announcer saying Kevin wasn't making up ground yet Mr Smooth was reeling Lawson and Rainey back in like crazy. Amazing race and he got it right, the best in the world. Amazing
Too all. My hero is still Kenny Roberts. This vid 😎🔧was a Super Bowl season of MotoGP. Think today no squid knows how to bump start a bike. They never kicked a road bike over either. Best wishes all. Scrape the shiny bits and stay on the correct side of the handle bars
Saw Kenny on a talk show the other day and he was asked what he thought of the big heavy 4 -stroke bikes. He laughed and said (And they call those things super-bikes?) It's not a super bike unless it will stand on the rear wheel in 4th gear just from throttle response