Getting into Gas Planes - Breaking in an Engine

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  • @boofnoof1602
    @boofnoof1602 6 років тому +32

    TIPS: Always have a wing on when running in an engine, the vibrations from the engine with shake the hell out of the plane and make the glue release from the wood. Another tip is fuel proof your plane before you start flying the aircraft, using only 30 min epoxy and methylated spirits to thin the glue out and brush it on lightly just to cover the wood and let it set over night. for the first few tanks of fuel run the aircraft rich until the engine has properly seated. Also by using an electric starter yes its a lot safer but if you have spent a lot of money on a nice spinner it will continue to put marks on it so I suggest to used a starter stick, with a rubber end so that it doesn't damage your prop and one you start to feel comfortable then you can start using your hand. (Hope this helps some newbies into the hobby) :)

    • @ilham7345
      @ilham7345 2 роки тому

      does cordless drill adapter available?

    • @rccollin7699
      @rccollin7699 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ilham7345no

  • @sillydronevalley539
    @sillydronevalley539 6 років тому +54

    Ahhhhhh
    I was missing the "Hi, I'm Josh and this is Josh"

  • @hobie1613
    @hobie1613 6 років тому +54

    Finally a gas video! It's been years!

  • @SA-co5sm
    @SA-co5sm 6 років тому +7

    I started this hobby with gas planes. ABSOLUTE FUN.

  • @kennethkustren9381
    @kennethkustren9381 5 років тому

    GASOLINE ENGINES HAVE ADVANCED HUGELY IN MY 25+ YEARS OF RC interests.
    SolidState ignitions, EVERY ENGINE BLOCK ever, and ..... GPS A.I. UAV POV RC.... IN ONE AIRFRAME !!

    • @kennethkustren9381
      @kennethkustren9381 5 років тому +1

      I could tell you about a local effort.... high altitude BALLOONING... UAV -ish

  • @didierneeferc
    @didierneeferc 6 років тому +7

    Amazig finally some gas! I have been flying gas/glow for 10 years over the 14 years i have flown in total! (Almost 21 years old now) Love you guys!

  • @alankouba3556
    @alankouba3556 6 років тому +44

    please do more around gas planes

  • @Skydive4ever
    @Skydive4ever 6 років тому +89

    I missed the good 'ol tutorial videos, vlogs are ok, but i miss the old format.

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 6 років тому +1

      Skydive4ever Me too.

    • @bnvi1215
      @bnvi1215 6 років тому +1

      Me too

    • @KouriEien
      @KouriEien 6 років тому +1

      Oh yes.

    • @rcbif101
      @rcbif101 6 років тому +3

      Yes, this! Just not as informative or to the point anymore.

    • @DerHeizmeister
      @DerHeizmeister 6 років тому +3

      Indeed. I was quite delighted when they even gave the specs of an aircraft in metric and imperial units a long time ago. It seems that usefull information and technical details have given way to sensationalism and lifestyle... quite a shame.

  • @omary5439
    @omary5439 4 роки тому

    this is the first flight test video I watched since around 2014, since you guys started getting heavy into quadcopters around that time and that's not really what I'm about. awesome video and it's really great to see both Joshs haha.

  • @flyboywbl
    @flyboywbl 2 роки тому +1

    Omg I miss this content. Just bought the Ultra Stick 30cc

  • @brandendavis6369
    @brandendavis6369 6 років тому +6

    Finally! I have been waiting for years for this

  • @FLYINGLIFERCREVIEWS
    @FLYINGLIFERCREVIEWS 6 років тому +2

    I'm so excited for a beginner series on gas!!! . How about a package from flight test store, every thing we need to build one with all the steps !!!

    • @sebastianlorant6502
      @sebastianlorant6502 5 років тому +1

      Please! I'm quite sure I will be purchasing a Hangar 9 Meridian 60 and that's over the discontinued Great Planes Big Stik 60

  • @gavinl.7993
    @gavinl.7993 6 років тому

    Haha! You read my mind!
    I was just thinking about getting into gas planes today and how you would need to care for the engine, and I thought it would be really convenient if Flite Test would put up a video about getting started with it, since I learn most of what I need to know from them. Get out of my head! 😂

  • @neilorourke3257
    @neilorourke3257 6 років тому

    What a breath of fresh air this episode was! Looking forward to more about gas planes.

  • @olliea6052
    @olliea6052 6 років тому

    Good video guys! If a person is trying out gassers, they need to view the engine work needed before flying as a complete package. Take time to get each step right and as Josh said; don't skip any steps. All worth it in the end. I have two nitro planes in the shed that a neighbour gave me because his eyesight deteriorated. Have yet to fly them because procrastination. And a lack of runway. Excuses excuses!

  • @glennbenton7158
    @glennbenton7158 6 років тому +4

    Looking forward to seeing more on gas engines. I have used glow for years, however keen to get into gas for some of the big scale aircraft.

  • @miklosko3355
    @miklosko3355 6 років тому +1

    In Europe it's called Two stroke engine not Two cycle :) Anyway not important. What's important is that the plane is big,looks cool, looking awesome e in the air and the most important thing is: It sounds soooo Awesome! And the warbirds with 4 stroke engines are breath taking and goose bumps giving because they sound so realistic and when they do low pass fly by.... I forget to breath... :D Awesome job guys! Can't wait for more ;). Thank you!

  • @pesterenan
    @pesterenan 6 років тому +21

    It's so much simple in Portuguese. We only have "motor" for the two types of "motors" that you showed ^^

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 6 років тому

    And so it begins, Beginner series for running i.c. I literally have zero funds for such a level at the moment but I am still excited to learn!

  • @devinkavak1836
    @devinkavak1836 6 років тому +2

    Flite fest south!!! You even put it in the vid! We need it again!

  • @robinhood5448
    @robinhood5448 6 років тому +1

    YOU MADE A HOBBY INTO PASSION

  • @hateeternalmaver
    @hateeternalmaver 6 років тому +3

    That motor/engine thing was eye opening, especially for a non-native speaker. Thanks guys.
    Also, such a classic episode. I really enjoyed it.

  • @tiberiu_nicolae
    @tiberiu_nicolae 6 років тому +1

    Josh and Josh! Like in the good old days!

  • @bepowerification
    @bepowerification 6 років тому

    the benefits of gassers are the sound and the smell! and the satisfaction flying an internal combustion engine on an RC plane gives you.

  • @ggabrao02
    @ggabrao02 6 років тому

    Hi Guys, big fan. I have been flying glow and gas for quite some time and I truly love it. In my club we often do glow racing with members flying the same model of planes, 2 at the time and the only rule is that the plane can not be modded and the engine has to be below .46.
    Always a good time.

  • @gorace71
    @gorace71 6 років тому +2

    Great to see the josh and josh show back in town. Love the gas and electric

  • @1rappyman
    @1rappyman 6 років тому

    Great to see another gas episode after the Roadrunner one a few years back. I love flying electrics and gas motor planes & have shelved the nitro planes (long drive to get nitro fuel for me). Gas is cheap to operate, almost never needs any tuning work on the carb needles after being setup, not any cleanup like nitro & can pull around a big plane like nothing. They have been super reliable and easy to start. I would avoid running a plane much without the wings on - it shakes the fuse pretty good. I've done air break-ins, but check the manual - if it says a ground break-in is needed, they will know best.

  • @slyburner123
    @slyburner123 6 років тому

    Make Flite Test Great Again, with this kind of videos!

  • @BlokHed75
    @BlokHed75 6 років тому +2

    JOSH IS BACK!!!!!!

  • @averagemodeler
    @averagemodeler 6 років тому

    I hope more tutorials like this are coming from the two josh's. I have three big balsa planes with four gas and nitro engines I got from a friend getting out of the hobby.

  • @HaywardFamilybuilding
    @HaywardFamilybuilding 6 років тому

    Josh is Back!!!!

  • @3DMOFO2020
    @3DMOFO2020 6 років тому +3

    Wonderful job on the video plus its great to see the 2 ''Josh's'' again lol

  • @thedude7726
    @thedude7726 6 років тому +21

    as a certified small engine mechanic , please do NOT use marine grade two cycle oil.
    it has ammonium blended in it. this WILL cause carburetor and fuel line issues.

    • @rabbitfootedkitty1339
      @rabbitfootedkitty1339 6 років тому +1

      Stupid people. Also what should be used, something like Caster927?

    • @hardtop123
      @hardtop123 2 роки тому

      YES!!!....im also a qualified small engine mechanic...36 years in the trade....DEFINITELY DO NOT use outboard 2 stroke oil in an air cooled engine......outboard oil is not designed for the heat created by an air cooled engine....it will carbon an air cooled engine up really quick...been there seen this happen time after time when its been used in a chainsaw or brushcutter

    • @Rcguy2591
      @Rcguy2591 2 роки тому

      @@hardtop123 also needs to be ethanol free gas

  • @brucetenhave6952
    @brucetenhave6952 6 років тому

    Great to see gas back on the show. Looking foward to more gas vids!

  • @oscarzt1652
    @oscarzt1652 6 років тому

    I am SO envious of you having that plane.
    I want one

  • @MrJJandJim
    @MrJJandJim 6 років тому

    Cool vid, guys! By the way, I have a challenge for you guys! I mentioned it before. (I think it was on the crash compilation.) Take an airplane, equip it with a very strong motor, then remove the main wings and try to fly it using the rear end to control it. It cannot be a flying wing or a nutball, just a normal airplane. You can then make any modifications to help you control it and/or stabilize it, but no wings for lift! You can add multiple engines if you want!

  • @organgrind
    @organgrind 6 років тому

    Well done guys, I'm just this year heading into gas myself, very helpful.

  • @Smarnca
    @Smarnca 6 років тому

    Does this mean Flite Test will do electric and gas powered models from now on? Awesome!

  • @mladtheimpaler
    @mladtheimpaler 6 років тому +2

    I've been waiting for this!

  • @LeadElement
    @LeadElement 6 років тому

    Build a gas quadcopter please! Best way would probably be single engine and collective pitch, but a quad engine would sure be a sight to behold!

  • @razetedgy3963
    @razetedgy3963 6 років тому +2

    Finally some real RC planes

  • @uselessaccount196
    @uselessaccount196 6 років тому

    Finally...my wish came true.thnx FT you guys are the best.GOD BE WITH YOU......

  • @BigAlFPV17
    @BigAlFPV17 6 років тому

    Excellent tips Josh & Josh!!

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers 6 років тому

    Started on Diesel, never could get the buggers started. Hated glow engines, now into electric, and petrol/gas ignition engines. At least I understand those. Now all I have to do is build a plane big enough for my Honda weedwacker/strimmer engine.
    Running in/break in can be done at any time in the engine's life (If you or the previous owner forgot) and is much easier on a test stand than mounted in the plane.

  • @danielharman4437
    @danielharman4437 6 років тому

    Omg perfect video. I’ve been wondering about gas for so long

  • @errorgd
    @errorgd 6 років тому

    just when I started thinking about it. love you guys

  • @krolltheknight
    @krolltheknight 6 років тому +1

    Real good commentary bois. G

  • @brettlockhart1465
    @brettlockhart1465 6 років тому

    Great video guys good to see a gasser please do a lot more gas and glow!

  • @punkgunzzyoutube7728
    @punkgunzzyoutube7728 6 років тому +1

    The hair looks WAY BETTER.
    And the scuff on the chin.
    You literally transformed.

  • @adithyafpv
    @adithyafpv 6 років тому +1

    Which is the simulator you suggest for a beginner to able to fly and land engine RC plane

  • @FPV-wi8fw
    @FPV-wi8fw 6 років тому +1

    Gas planes are the best 😁

  • @ColeAviation
    @ColeAviation 6 років тому +19

    You don’t always want to run the “Engine” with out the wings on it because the vibration from the engine can cause the glue joints on the plane to break lose.

    • @FlyersDistrict
      @FlyersDistrict 6 років тому +3

      Chad Cole rubber mounted help a lot with that and a well balanced prop 👍

    • @ColeAviation
      @ColeAviation 6 років тому +4

      Flyers District - Yes sir I understand that but it’s still not good on the airframe. 😉👍🏼

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 6 років тому +1

      Do most modern air frames rely that heavily on the wings for structural soundness?

    • @FlyersDistrict
      @FlyersDistrict 6 років тому

      Chad Cole That’s true. But it’s ok, all airplanes are like milk... go ahead, ask 😁

    • @Rcvliegen
      @Rcvliegen 6 років тому +1

      That's true, try that with a four stroke engine, or better a four stroke boxer. You will have a pile of parts in a bag (the shrink foil) you can reassemble to a plane again. If the fuselage gets in resonance there is no stopping.
      The wings will have a kind of anti vibration to the fuselage. Just the mass and inertia will help against the vibrations in the fuselage.
      You will learn this when you play with larger model planes. Just idling can break the fuselage.

  • @lilbigmike8945
    @lilbigmike8945 6 років тому +1

    I found a full complete gasser in someones garbage a few months back. I dont have a manual for it! Where should I start to get it running again?

  • @av8153
    @av8153 6 років тому +6

    I imagine many of your viewers are electric park flyers . If you guys do a follow up video , you may want to mention that gassers are not usually recommended for park flying .... or soccer-field/softball-field/etc . And also let viewers know : as well as 2 stroke engines , there are 4 stroke engines available .

    • @pipsqeak7104
      @pipsqeak7104 4 роки тому

      I just was given a free flow engine plane 25 years old about, where should I fly it? If not at a field I dont understand.

    • @av8153
      @av8153 4 роки тому

      @@pipsqeak7104 At an RC club field ( ask what is required to fly there ) , or on private land with permission .

    • @pipsqeak7104
      @pipsqeak7104 4 роки тому

      @@av8153 thank you! I was not expecting an answer from a 2 year old comment, but it is very appreciated. That's makes sense.

  • @oliverw782
    @oliverw782 6 років тому +13

    Gas is here!! YAAAIIII!

  • @mark675
    @mark675 6 років тому

    At last something that isnt quadcopters 🙌👏

  • @urmilajoshi8050
    @urmilajoshi8050 6 років тому

    Please make a video on different gas planes such as the one used in this video and my personal favorite the sukhoi su-26 form hobbyking. Anyways great work as always!

  • @elijahf111
    @elijahf111 6 років тому

    I've been waiting... That's a cool frickin plane

  • @Bandare
    @Bandare 6 років тому

    I was even more excited from the title saying GAS. I was wondering propane, butane or what? Then I realised you just meant fuel, or in the US,gas! hahaha

  • @kmarshall100
    @kmarshall100 5 років тому

    Hey fellas! I’ve been watching your videos since days of the eflite Taylorcraft! Love that lil bird. Was curious...when are you guys gonna do an actual flying video of this plane??
    Keep the awesome videos up!

  • @wamplertube
    @wamplertube 6 років тому

    With gas you have to earn it! LOL keep up the great work boys!

  • @sr175
    @sr175 6 років тому +1

    Cool great to see gas! Read your manual as they will recommend how to break in but it's usually while flying not tied down. But it depends.

  • @sut2910
    @sut2910 6 років тому

    Great advice! I think the typical gas engines don't require as much break-in as glow engines, but the key _is_ the lubrication. Look at the weed whackers, where the history is -fill it up and go. I don't use ethanol gas any longer in my small engines, mowers, etc., now that I can get ethanol-free at the local gas station. No more issues with moisture, green gummed up bio-remnants, and clogged carbs.

  • @josepherickson7618
    @josepherickson7618 6 років тому +4

    Super awesome video love the video 👌👌👌💪💪💪👍👍👍👍

  • @1976axerhand
    @1976axerhand 6 років тому +1

    I always break in the air. Keeps them cooler and doesn't put a lot of stress on the airframe. Never had an issue in 10 yrs of flying gas.

  • @amen_ra6926
    @amen_ra6926 6 років тому

    Ah the memories of cleaning fuel residue of the fuselage and wings. Storing rubber bands that held the wings down in jars of cat litter. Tweaking the needle valve and being careful not to slice your fingers off.

  • @sebastianlorant6502
    @sebastianlorant6502 5 років тому +1

    So I'm very sure I'm going to purchase the Hangar 9 Meridian 60 over the Ultra Stick. From the reviews I have heard over the Ultrastick was the poor build quality out of factory (i.e. the aielerons dont have a flush finish to the wings due to the hinge insertions not being centered). I would greatly appreciate insight to this as all reviews I'm able to find are from 2015 or older, and finding glow/gas planes is not nearly as simple as it was 5 to 10 years ago. I had originally flown the Big stick 60 and that was my original choice however they were discontinued.

  • @MoiraOBrien
    @MoiraOBrien 6 років тому

    welcome back Josh Scott

  • @rabbitfootedkitty1339
    @rabbitfootedkitty1339 6 років тому +1

    You should always run after run oil no matter gas or nitro plane or car, or even a boat. Well, maybe not for gas cars all the time, but definitely for long-term storage. 3:58 What the heck? Outboard 2 stroke oil? I would stay away from that and use something like Caster927 by Maxima, Benol by Klotz, Dominator by Amsoil or some other high quality 2 stroke oil, at least for gas rc, and nitro rc, if you're cool enough to make your own nitro fuel. Maybe there is something else that should be used because i'm not into planes as much and they may require some other formula for the type of engine that they are, but 2 stroke marine oil doesn't seem right lol. Also, a separate battery for the ignition system? No magneto/coil? That's kind of sad :P.

  • @jordyb323
    @jordyb323 6 років тому

    I just bought a 2m Edge petrol, and this is perfect.
    you guys should help me with my fuel system, as the older guys at the club all gave me different opinions on how to set up the fuel system ( lines, overflow, carby, and bleeder)
    help would be much appreciated

  • @alexdavidsantiago3955
    @alexdavidsantiago3955 6 років тому

    Yeessss I was waiting this!!! Thanks for your help

  • @victorrisk6098
    @victorrisk6098 6 років тому

    I really like info on gas engines! Thanks!!!

  • @arleysimpson3678
    @arleysimpson3678 6 років тому +1

    Josh Scott's back?!?!? Bring back Peter and David, too!!!

  • @jm300zx7
    @jm300zx7 6 років тому

    Great video!!!

  • @FlyGuyF119
    @FlyGuyF119 6 років тому +5

    Nice to see y'all showing some 2stoke/ balsa stuff! This is where I wish the hobby stayed in some ways. Electric is cool but makes the care factor go down. Since if you crash a foamie you just go "well dang man guess I'll just hot glue it back together" With balsa aircraft there's so much more care that's needed. Between building the plane over a couple of months or years, ensuring everything is done right, inspecting the plane before every flight, ensuring the engine is tuned right. Because if you lose that plane for what every reason now you have time invested and cant just get a hot glue gun to fix it. Think it teaches children that get into the hobby a different level of respect for the craftsmanship of the plane and how to respect it. Not to bash the electric stuff but between electric planes and the drone stuff I think it has 100% hurt the hobby in several ways.

    • @ryanewbank9271
      @ryanewbank9271 5 років тому +1

      I agree..one video i seen was a spot at the flying field where they burned crashed planes. Another symptom of out "throw away society". Really sad.

  • @MrRCmania7
    @MrRCmania7 6 років тому

    You should leave the wings on for break in to let the vibrations escape better so you dont shake the firewall off

  • @derjoh1986
    @derjoh1986 6 років тому +1

    Wow, look at this! The original dual that started it all! Nice! Lol

  • @PlaneButcher
    @PlaneButcher 6 років тому

    What did you use to get the sticky gas residue off the plane?

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 2 роки тому +1

    Gas is great because it has high energy density. Electric is accessible for beginners

    • @flat-earther
      @flat-earther 7 місяців тому

      I thought it's high energy density

  • @guerrillaradio9953
    @guerrillaradio9953 6 років тому

    My carbon reno air racer is getting a 500cc inline twin. That's a big gas engine.

  • @iraqi1447
    @iraqi1447 Рік тому

    Hello, what is the length and width of the wing? How long is the plane?

  • @dmartinnj
    @dmartinnj 6 років тому

    Yay! It about time you introduced gas/glow flight...

  • @brodyjohnston9115
    @brodyjohnston9115 6 років тому +2

    Love the vids!

  • @peanutbutterisfu
    @peanutbutterisfu 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly electric is the best way to go, battery technology is so much better now, no worries about the engine stalling, no fuel to buy, the only problem you really will have is if you crash it. But there’s something about having a real engine lol. Definitely right about breaking in the engines.
    My .70 magnum xl 4 stroke ran absolutely terrible before I broke it in. They aren’t like a lawnmower or a car engine where they run great during the break in period. I really couldn’t believe how different it ran after running a few tanks of fuel in it. The next engine I buy I will just make an engine stand and break it in on that before even putting it in the plane.

  • @fabianplacek8582
    @fabianplacek8582 6 років тому +1

    Hey guys. If i was you i would not programm the failsave to cut the throttle and turn the engine off , cause if you have signal problems the engine turns off and if you connect again in the air (all this in a few seconds) your engine is turned off = Dead Stick . After that you all will think of , why the engine stopped.

  • @michaelsell6928
    @michaelsell6928 6 років тому +3

    Yesssssss!!!!!! It’s gasser time!!!

  • @blue2sco
    @blue2sco 6 років тому

    And you should always do this on a test rig first and not a model. And if you do a engine run in a model ALWAYS fit the wings, it gives you a hand hold, it can hit against your pit box if it moves forward giving you extra protection.

  • @supercobrapro7470
    @supercobrapro7470 4 роки тому

    Is the pulling force same if we go vertical?

  • @alanboston5811
    @alanboston5811 3 роки тому

    So what do you do about these carbs that have no mixture screws ?

  • @MsShaunaM
    @MsShaunaM 6 років тому

    Running at reduced power while on the ground is also true for full scale aircraft. The runup and magneto check happens at less than full throttle and is only supposed to last a moment to keep from overheating the engine.

  • @reggie3h694
    @reggie3h694 6 років тому

    Can you put out the Ultra Stick review out soon please?

  • @Blackstarr223
    @Blackstarr223 6 років тому +3

    If you get into bigger sized gas engines, starter motors are not an option.. Cheaply anyway. Although hand starting with gloves are recommended, (Imo especially with carbon props with a sharp trailing edge), I don't find many people who use gloves anyway. ;P

    • @boofnoof1602
      @boofnoof1602 6 років тому

      Yeah good point, They only use electric starters for safety crap haha, when starting my 120cc extra just keep 3 fingers on the face of the prop and that way if it back fires your fingers aren't in the line of fire. smaller ones just give it a flick backwards and starts right up haha. :)

  • @jeromes5141
    @jeromes5141 6 років тому

    Great video lads. Can you lads do a nitro video too. I started off on electrics and wanted swit h to gas. Got this u can do from a guy at the field only to find out that its 4 stroke nitro, and that's all i know of the engine. Was so disappointed. I wanted speed and noise but my t-34 mentor 25e fr horizon hobby was way faster than the nitro. How can I tell what size it is and can that engine be used in that ultra stick?

  • @DerHeizmeister
    @DerHeizmeister 6 років тому

    Nice to see that you guys are getting into combustion engines! However, I am a bit puzzled why petrol/gas powerd engines would be considered cleaner than glow/methanol engines. I fly my glow/methanol 2-strokes with a mixture of methanol and castor oil and no additives. I have not encountered a problem so far. Isn't an alcohol and a laxative (yes, castor oil is a laxative...) more pereferable than a hydrocarbon-petrolmixture with additives? Maybe I misunderstood something there..

  • @Rcguy2591
    @Rcguy2591 2 роки тому +1

    And we never saw this plane in a video ever again…

  • @flyboywbl
    @flyboywbl 4 роки тому

    I wish you did more balsa building and gas airplane content

  • @icin4d
    @icin4d 5 років тому

    This video is a over a year old. Has this plane ever been flown? I'm putting a DLE 35RA in my Ultra Stick.

  • @weofnjieofing
    @weofnjieofing 3 роки тому

    Glow engines are easier to set up and fly than gas. For starters there's no ignition system or ignition battery to worry about. The glow plug and glow driver takes care of that. There also cheaper to buy especially second hand. They also better cater to smaller aircraft making it cheaper overall to get into the air.
    In terms or reliability Glow can be as reliable as electric once you acquire the knowledge and diagnostic skills over time in operating them. They're also more fun than electric.

  • @mrbadx19
    @mrbadx19 6 років тому +3

    my first was a gasser that flew on a control line, you went round in circles and controlled it with 2 strings and a handle. mostly you got dizzy flying the damned thing.

  • @Handledgovernment
    @Handledgovernment 6 років тому

    Nice, a real epasode