I was abused as a child and a teenager for years, so was my sister, we are both pretty tired of hearing her claim to be speaking on behalf of all victims. Amber Heard speaks only on behalf of Amber Heard
I wholeheartedly disagree that they were both victims in their relationship. Heard seems to have gone in with an ulterior motive, & she was plotting against JD almost immediately.
I think she started telling her therapist she was the 1 abused in Johnny's relationship because she didn't want to spend the night in jail again for abuse like she did in Washington.
I also agree. Amber has proven time and again she needs constant attention aka Narcissistic Supply even though her words are she just wants to move on. Just like challenging JD to an interview post trial, Like Trump , she has to win at all costs. Textbook narcissistic behavior.
Note: Not one single DV advocate group has spoken out in her defense, nor did anyone from any DV group attend the trial to support her. My guess is that all of these groups will drop her like a hot potato and stay as far away from her as they possibly can. What AH doesn't see is that she actually caused more harm to real DV victims because even more so than before, their allegations will be scrutinized due to AH's false allegations and blantant lies. Her terrible acting was on full display through her unnatural acting performance on the stand that sunk her ship. I believe it is because she does not relate to, nor does she understand normal human behavior and therefore cannot emulate it effectively.
Actually, I think some of those groups supported her in the beginning but most of them turned their backs as soon as the evidence started to show she was really the ab.user here. Sadly, there are still influential people who have her back.
I think the worst thing about the interview is when she claimed Johnny assaulted his other partners but they're too scared to speak up when in fact 5 of his exes already spoke to his defence either in court or publicly!!
The biggest irony was how AH completely disregarded the 5+ years prior to this case when (most of) the public and the media believed her without question solely based on the op-ed and cancelled JD with no proof.
Agree! i hope that does change, since this case happened - Just saying you suffered abuse (man or woman), does not prove anything. Amber did not damage women in abuse situations - The truth matters, and that's what this case proves - it does not deter women from reporting abuse, in fact, it no doubt opens the door to show and empower both men and women - Tell the truth, and it will prevail
I feel like people are totally misremembering this... Many people believed Johnny right from the start, people didn't just drop him instantly at all. It was only when he lost the libel lawsuit in the UK because the courts found Heard's accusations to be "substantially true" that he was dropped from Fantastic Beasts. She originally accused him of domestic abuse in 2016, the Sun ran the article in 2018 and he was only dropped in 2020. That is far from believing her without question.
In this trial, Johnny was able to fight back. He brought a patient demeanor as he finally opened up about who was hitting who. Amber should have let it go after he promptly paid the 7 million dollars in the divorce suit. But, no, a year after she had been paid, she writes an op-ed declaring herself a victim of domestic abuse, and he by implication an abuser. This was on the eve of a movie in which she was the love interest, and the article certainly drew attention to her. In time to promote herself beyond merely being the girl in the movie: she was the girl deserving sympathy as the punching bag of a powerful man and who was now declaring herself a leader for abused women.
Geez she's still defaming him. She's behaving exactly as Dr Curry said she would. He should make her pay and give it to charities or she'll continue to defame him (or other men) until she faces consequences. If he waives the 10M, she'll just turn around and say, "johnny didn't make me pay because he knows I'm the true victim and he feels bad". She's never been held accountable and that's why she's like this.
No one will believe that though. It was never about the money for Depp, and he won over public opinion before the trial even ended. No one will believe anything she says now.
It's possible he would insist in writing that the debt would only be forgiven if she stopped making public comments about him. And if she broke the agreement he would sue and seize assets.
JD could make her pay over and over ad infinitum, Amber would still be convinced that she's the victim. She has no capacity for insight or self-reflection and will likely never change.
Also important is JD is not the 1st person AH physically assaulted. She smacked her friend Raquel in the face over a trivial matter and was arrested at a Seattle airport in 2009 for assaulting her ex wife Tasya, She later lied about the arrest in a deposition. Amber appears to be generally violent. In what universe would she be considered the voice for silenced DV victims?
"In what universe would she be considered the voice for the silenced DV victims?" In the universe that exists within the minds of her deluded, gaslighting, flying monkeys.
I hear your point BUT to paint Depp as angelic is wrong. Raquel confirmed she shoved heard first and her ex denies it. Depp is also up for assault towards a coworker. The things can't be used to say what their relationship was like. Even a juror has said they thought it was bidirectional abuse. Yes she has lied but Depp has also lied and we can't weigh that on scales of justice only that they're both not great. She shouldn't have done the tro and I don't know why she did it..... to get in there first maybe. She Def. Shouldn't have done the op ed. However if a juror thinks it was bidirectional then the outcome of the case was incorrect... it would be that neither proved their case and both defamed each other ✌
Dr. Grande, you don’t seem to think its relevant that in AH’s 30+ years, she has been accused of using violence several times, in JD’s 50+ years, none of his partners have ever accused him of it.
"The more she gets criticized, the stronger the protective layer becomes. Narcissistic shield becomes so impenetrable, even a man with hands made of scissors could not break it" 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Bravo Dr. Grande! Thoughtful and profound. Thank you.
Amber was lynched by social media. It had to have influenced the Jurors. There's an old rule : " Men side with each other. Women backstab each other". And boy did it apply here !!! What was Amber thinking anyway ??? You don't go after a Hollywood Icon. As for Johnny Depp he came across as greedy, vindictive and petty. The Guy has a $200 millions net worth and he's going after a girl with a 12 million net worth. Jeez how low can you stoop ??? His ego was hurt ??? Really ??? Materialistic, merciless, narcissitic...Jimmy is miles away from his acting persona. This trial did way more to damage his reputation than Amber's accusations. Amber, touching and naive, is like that Spanish Character, Don Quixote, underestimating his opponents and engaging in fights way above her strength.
When backed into a corner there are only two options, admit you were wrong and ask for forgiveness, or double down... As we see in 'real life', sometimes when you've lived a lie for so long, you eventually believe the lie. Either way, her career is irrevocably damaged, her only salvation is to hide behind the shield of her "cause".
Telling truth supposedly something we should do before backed into corner. I always found it's easier to telling the truth,,, I know it's not case for several people,,,, they like keep a layer of lies and cover it up with another layer of lies, like a not delicious mille feuille (sorry if I write it incorrectly)
I think she was actually physically abused, but it was more akin to JD restraining her during her physical outbursts. That's still domestic violence. In my practice, I've dealt with clients who are male and are struck by females who break a nail when striking their boyfriends. The boyfriend is successfully hit with a DV charge. In fact, in my state, throwing a phone of your partner is enough to satisfy a DV charge and make it stick. So I am mystified how the jury didn't find one instance of abuse by JD. That said, the lie about donating money and the photoshopped pics allow juries to justify simplistic thinking. You lie about one thing, you lie about all things. Trials are not about truth. Any lawyer will tell you that.
HaleysTusk, you are so right! She believes her lies even now. I like this bull about how she doesn't have the money. She got 2 million for Aquaman, 7 million from JD, and God knows what from her baby daddy. Oh, she's not telling who the daddy is. She wants her privacy. But taking pictures of your husband sleeping or loaded, or on the floor for all the world to see, that's ok. What about his privacy? Besides, she knows where she needs to go to get money. So that poor me routine is nonsense. America got it right. I'm not even a fan of JD. Never saw 1 jack sparrow movie and only 2 other movies which i saw for free. But what is right is right. And this guy was wronged by a loon he had the misfortune to find.
@@atomariola6410 There was no proof that he ever threw a phone. He did admit to head butting her accidentally when trying to exit a door as she was attacking him and he turned to put up his arms to protect himself. Amber has admitted to nothing. Im this « oh well they were just as bad as each other » narrative….I don’t understand why it’s not completely obvious that NO…she started this. Violence is her thing. Manipulation is her thing. It makes me so sad. No one in my ex’s car orbit knows what he did to me. They think he’s amazing. Sexual abuse. Physical abuse. Financial abuse. Emotional abuse. Verbal abuse. Why can people not accept that sometimes there is a bad guy. And I’m this case, a bad gal.
Dr. Grande, I wish you watched the entire trial and listened to all the other audios that are out there. It is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that SHE WAS the verbal and physical aggressor. Because of her diagnoses, when Johnny would retreat to avoid her outbursts, she perceived him leaving as a slight…as abandonment. Add this to ALL of her over histrionics and lies and this is why the situation has become what it has. Your videos on AH are good, but sometimes it seems that they could be improved upon with additional information that is obviously missing.
With respect, we will never know what happened when AH wasn't recording. My adult daughter is aggressive about getting what she wants. She should be on medication but she refuses. I had to block her on social media 😒 I never knew what narcissism was until Meghan markle. It helps a bit.
"Even if you think I'm lying, you have to admit..." Amber is the last person to tell anyone what they have to admit. She can start by admitting to a single lie. As a wise wino once said, "Can you try being wrong for once?"
Yesssss. Exactly. There is no "but" after you've been shown in court to be a liar. A Chronic Liar. Who lied. And lies. Even under oath. Lying. Still. 🙄 It's not that ppl necessarily just love love love Johnny Depp, it's that ppl hate a liar. Imho, that is. Thank-you 4 this video!!!
If she was lying (which she was) she deserves every bit of career-ending, monetary punishment and public humiliation that she got, and more. She tried to ruin a man unjustly, so she should receive that ruination as her just punishment.
I was a victim of sexual abuse when I was in college. AH does not represent me. I find her testimony infuriating and triggering. She’s a liar who can’t even keep her story straight. She has done nothing but harm to the womens movement. I also wonder what kind of mother she can be when her head is so screwed up. She brags she is both mom and dad. Poor baby.
Sorry to hear of your abuse, but there is the problem right there that Amber exposed when you said "the woman's movement". Both abuse & false accusations can happen to both genders and it shows a person cares about power, rather than ethical principles If they stand for a gender-first movement instead of ethics. Likewise, i wouldn't support a men vs women's movement, i would support a principle about false accusations priven in court to be properly penalized (as would any fair person imo).
I found watching Amber Heard testify traumatizing. Her behavior reminded me so much of my ex husband, I started having nightmares again. Whatever abuses she may have suffered, are overwhelmed by the weight of abuse she heaps. I sympathize with whatever abuse she may have suffered. No one deserves abuse. However, I empathize with Johnny. He was dealing with a personality that could, and would never be satisfied. She seemed to enjoy any pain he expressed, while he didn't have a similar reaction to her pain. I don't know about Amber, but my ex turned out to be a physical and emotional sadist. He enjoys others pain. I saw some indication this was a possibility with Amber...and it brought me back to a place where a locked door isn't enough to keep from getting hurt, and neither is moving out. Terrifying.
Insightful and great comment. I'm so sorry you endured so much abuse too and I hope the nightmares dissipate 🙏🥺 wishing you a kind and gentle recovery and life ❤️👑☀️💐🌺🌷🌸🌻
I've read no better comment about the whole sorry affair than this one. I have sympathy for her too, she's very troubled. But she doesn't represent me or any other women, let alone victims of DV, sexual assault or any other cause she thinks she can co-opt to suit her short term aims. She's not entitled to use the plight of others as a sword and shield. I've tried really hard to see it from her perspective, look beyond the grandiosity, the breathtaking level of arrogance, the cunning, deceit and apparent absence of shame, pity or sorrow. But the net result is that I find her entirely repellent.
This has nothing to do with your ex-husband. Can you stop deflecting when a women is caught being abusive? Every time it "oh yeah well this man..." It's a large part of the reason so many men are forced to suffer in silence, they're drowned out by women like you.
I completely sympathize with you. I've had one for DECADES. But, I didn't hear any abuse by Johnny Depp, nor did any of his previous partners siggest abuse, nor was a modicum of evidence supplied by AH proving abuse. She didn't even accuse him of hitting her on her own tapes, much less committing sexual abuse. DV and SA is not something you pick up in your 50s and reactive abuse is attributed to the abuser not the one reacting. It seems like the only reason anyone capitulates to any part of her claim is because she refuses to admit that she lied. Narcissists lie 'til they die. He never abused her, he just let the wrong one in.
I am completely against public harassment, bullying and belittling of anyone, that’s something I will never condone. However, I also think it’s extremely offensive to falsely accuse a person of wrongdoing. If Amber was indeed a victim of DV, then she undermined her own abuse by her inconsistencies and lies on the stand, she should have just told the truth. She had a chance to tell her story and because she wasn’t believed she is saying that this was a setback for women. I completely disagree, her claims of DV were taken very seriously, but the evidence did not match what she was saying. Unfortunately, this interview did not bring anything that we didn’t already know, she doubled down on her claims, and did not own any responsibility again. Furthermore, she said that she still loves Johnny! I am so puzzled by this statement. If anyone reading this wants to offer some insight, please do so. I just can’t comprehend how she still loves, after years and a trial in between, the man whom she claimed abused her in such a horrible manner. Fantastic analysis Dr. Grande, very insightful as always!❤️ Also, Happy Father’s Day Dr. Grande!💙💚💜
Well, when a narcissist says "I love you", he/she means "I can still (mis)use you". Narcissists have no concept of an emotional relationship, only of a utilitarian relationship.
Love? Can you imagine what that would mean to a person with her personality? I think her saying that is just yet more noise on her part, something else that makes her a victim. She certainly loved the money and status (she believed) her relationship brought her. She throws out lies, half-truths and distortions all the time, saying she still loves him is just another example of how she can't empathise with a true victim.
She thinks it makes her look better. She thinks by saying "I still love him" we'll all be like "oh what a poor sweet girl" It had the opposite effect though, just comes across like wtf...
What are you talking about. There was plenty of evidence. Pictures. But there were written off as being make up. Do you know how crazy that sounds. Wake the hell up along with everyone else. Johnny is a violent disgusting drug addict with a violent history.
She wants to come across as a perfect saint that has nothing but love for everyone, including her alleged abuser. She doesn’t know when to stop so she can actually look like a normal person, as Dr Grande said, in different words.
It’s almost painful to hear this woman busily proving the depth of her personality disorders. I am glad that I did not watch the Dateline interview, but only saw clips on line. The strength of her sense of superiority to others, and her distain for anyone and everyone who unmasks her internal ugliness is just disgusting. Sad. NO self awareness. Really sad. Johnny Depp never battered this woman. I don’t believe that her team will be able to come up with any grounds for an appeal..
From what i understand as far as an appeal goes she has to put the money she owes depp after the first trial in a sort of escrow until the second trial is over.
Oh ffs, Amber was verbally and physically abusive to Johnny which is what drove him to being supposedly verbally abusive to her. He was not the instigator in anything!! She drove him to the brink of insanity and that’s the only way he fought back, verbally. She deserves a lot worse.
What Johnny implied is that Amber would bring great humiliation on herself and he was very right about that! Amber could’ve taken the millions (no one would’ve pushed her to donate it) and her aqua man career and been set. Instead she showed just how sick she is by defaming him and then wildly lying on the stand. She likely could have beat Johnny in court if she had not made such ridiculous accusations without the evidence to back them up. She did this to herself she truly doesn’t know when to stop
Well hopefully if she would have 'acted' differently on the stand, the evidence or lack off would have still had the same outcome. Not sure why everyone is saying a different outcome if behaved differently.
That's precisely it. She did not do the rational thing, which is to take the money and move on with her life. She took the money, apparently insisting that Johnny pay it all to her at once instead of installments (but ironically, adopting the installment plan when it came to donating that money herself), continued taunting him on social media ever since, and of course wrote the op-ed. So there's something else going on here, something beyond rationality, some madness.
@@skrtskit1521 AH has to one up him on everything ....when she could have moved on .. she decided to write an op-ed when he sued her she countersued for twice the amount claiming ptsd This brought HER mental health into court ...BAD MOVE ......when she could have won the case by proving 1 point of verbal physical abuse ...she came to court and came up w/ a new claim sex abuse ...she has no one to blame but herself and needs to quit talking ........ but she can't .......... she HAS to have the last word ........ the public hates ........ she wrote it //// she did not write it ..... it was about him //// it was not about him ....she pledged the money means $ is donated it ....... try that w the IRS and see how far you get ...... THIS IS NOT ABOUT FREE SPEECH .... THIS IS ABOUT TRUTH ....
@@tylermoore4429 yes she was diagnosed Bipolar before meeting JD and was diagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder plus Histrionic Personality Disorder by Dr Curry.
Can we be clear. Amber did NOT tell the truth, Johnny did not hit Amber. Also, JD was not mutually aggressive. The 20 hours of audio shows JD on the defense, never on the attack and never in a position of power.
Unfortunately I recognized AH right away and signed many petitions to Disney to try to dissuade them from taking Johnny Depp out of Pirates. I recognized her because I grew up with a narcissistic mother. My mother is a narcissist who caused permanent hearing damage to my step father by hitting him in the side of the head with a glass ashtray in front of us children. We begged her to stop and he was screaming, and it just fueled her. This is one of the worst examples of what we had to witness. She can walk out of the house after doing something like that as if nothing happened, lie with a straight face, and has zero remorse or feeling of responsibility. She is a "victim". I am relieved the public is finally waking up to the damage of narcissistic behavior disorder, particularly in women. I worry for her child & her sister.
She sounded pretty gaslighty in those recordings. "I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you!" lol. Imagine if Johnny had said that. He was able to finally come to his senses and get away from her, so then she sought revenge and did what narcissists always do, go on a smear campaign.
the angle she tries with Guthrie is so dumb too.. she says that when she said "yeah, I did start a physical fight" it was her placating the volatile abuser for her safety.. problem being that her next sentence of note on the recording is "I can't promise I won't get physical again" so she placated the abuser.. then threatened him. OK Sure girl!
Imagine if Johnny was found that he defamed her and that all the abuse allegations she said about him were true . I wonder how fast Dateline would have booked him an interview... maybe we should ask Kevin Spacey or Bill Cosby. It's disgusting to me that NBC gave this now proven physically abusive person a platform to try and gaslight the public and drag her victim through the mud some more.
I both dislike and distrust her and feel really sorry for her. She does not appear to be a nice person, but she is obviously in a lot of psychological and emotional pain. I really hope she will find an excellent therapist for her own and her daughter's sake.
@@Juke582 That is absolutely not true. It's recognized by psychiatrists that narcissists can experience immense emotional pain, which is what drives some of their craziest behaviors.
As someone with BPD, and an abuse survivor, this woman infuriates me. She is so out of touch with reality, I sincerely hope she gets therapeutic help that she needs. Total lack of insight, and to lie like that in a court of a law - shameful.
Have you gotten assistance for bpd. I have a best friend, former girlfriend who I believe exhibits the exact symptoms of bpd and as her friend I have suggested she look into dialectical behavior therapy Have you heard of this?
Yes, Adam Waldman is a pretty formidable lawyer and personally took on the job of getting to the bottom of the mechanics of Ambers hoax, the friends she involved,TMZ, her publicist and he tried to describe it just before the police bodycam footage was released so he got some details of when they spread wine/broken picture frames etc around the apartment to indicate a false incident. the inaccuracy of it meant the jury said it was defamatory, I agree that it was factually wrong on minor details BUT I heartily disagree that its defamatory as the Jury upheld the other notion by Depp & his lawyer that it was a planned "Hoax" you can't be defamed for hoaxing.. as a hoaxer, over minor details.. its akin to a murderer asserting defamation of character because reporters initially thought they killed their victim with a porcelain fruit bowl when actually it was a glass punch bowl - the public image is well earned by the perpetrator, the assertions are largely accurate. speculation by the most popular YT lawyers is that a jury member may have been reticent about awarding Depp money & this count was to appease them about Depps lawyer being too aggressive by essentially 'throwing a bone' to Amber while still saying she is an aggressor and a hoax artist.
@@etherspin fairly though the jury did not get to hear about the second 911 call. I think that might have changed their minds on that count because the police had already been there, JD was already gone when the first set arrived, why would you call the cops again? They didn't get to know that though.
@@alimar0604 I don't remember why the judge kept it out. It might be because they couldn't definitely say where the 911 phone call came from (first one was from IO who was out of town at the time). They got to hear about the second visit by the officers but I'm pretty sure it was under the understanding that it was a "follow up" and not that they were actually called again. Pretty sure it was Rocky that called them the second time, it sounds like her. One of those freeloaders did.
@@etherspin Yes, or that one count may have bothered the jury because it implicated people besides Amber. It also suggested that her attorney and publicist were part of the hoax which is going a bit far without clearer evidence of their participation.
Thank You Sir. I got drawn into watching the trial because I genuinely wanted to support who I thought was a fellow victim. It became clear to me very quickly that this was just another acting role for Ms. Heard and I was deeply offended by her arrogance, particularly as it pertained to assuming she could say the most obviously false things and everyone else would simply believe her because she's so smart and we're so stupid. As someone who has been struck in the face "too many times to count" I was appalled by her assertion that she could show up the next day or even the next week looking perfect because of makeup and ice. She made me feel ashamed of my injuries and inability to smile without showing pain or cover up swelling. Even though I knew she was lying, she made me feel weak and deficient. Maybe he did hit her or do something physical but what she described is not possible. She has to have completely fabricated her abuse stories for her own aggrandizement or she greatly, greatly exaggerated them. She's done a terrible disservice to her fellow human beings.
You are clearly nothing like AH. I pray that you find happiness in a safe relationship and that you know that so many people are there to help you and listen to your situation.
What Amber did is what many masterful manipulators do, play on people's consciousness, by throwing out into the air without context to feed social stereotypes and norms. The "global innialation" text was a text to JD's sister. He sent it in 2018, after Amber put out the Op-Ed piece accusing him of dv and sexual assault. Amber's Team got their hands on so of JD's personal text and aired them in court without any context. Extremely manipulative. So glad she lost.
When Amber threw the vodka bottle at Johnny and severed his finger she was crying worried about people talking. She wasn't concerned that the tip of his finger was gone. Her concerned was how people viewed her. She truly is the worse narcissist female I've ever seen.
She was diagnosed as having Borderline Personality Disorder at the trial by her court appointed clinical psychologist. Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist/professor
You have to meet my mothers daughter. She is Amber heard with kids. Always playing the victim, lazy as hell, hurting others all the time . POS narcissist
@@latinaalma1947 that makes sense. There are shared characteristics with narcissistic behaviour. I would have thought perhaps vulnerable narcissism, but that makes a lot of sense. I thought her suffering seemed sincere but didn't like how she held her nose up high all the time. It seemed to contradict her claims of innocence.
I watched that whole trial. Amber reminded me of my mom so much. My mom got away with her diabolical smear campaign during my parent’s nasty 90’s divorce. Everyone in my town believed my moms over acting bullshit. She wanted me to lie and say my dad molested me. He did beat the shit out of me regularly for ten years but he didn’t do any SA. I never saw my mom the same after that and I became another target for refusing. I joined the Navy to break up with my psycho mom. Ten years No Contact now. It was awesome to see a totally phony well researched victim act NOT work this time. My mother was no victim. She is bullshit tornado that ruins everyone stupid enough to fall for her acts and traps. My mother used to go to Al Anon meetings to learn the correct lines for the role she was playing from real victims. My mother was/is a selfish monster. I want to put up some boundaries asap upon meeting anymore people like her.
Word, Karen, I can't even imagine going through what you have. I am so sorry. There are lots of videos on "how to spot a narcissist.". Also, you might be interested in Chase Hughes' Six Minute Xray (from the Behavioral Panel UA-cam channel).
@@rosewoodsteel6656 thanks. My mom made everything a living hell. I’ve had ten years of therapy now from the VA and I’m finally getting somewhere with recovering from the anxiety, PTSD symptoms and panic disorder. I figured out my own autism after taking a couple of cognitive behavioral therapy courses. Got a referral and got diagnosed from Stanford. I’m gonna master ALL my damn triggers dammit! Even the environment. I’ll never take my freedom for granted. I’m really good at identifying these human bullshit tornados now. I think it’s also a spectrum and more common than reported. Or I’m a magnet for these shit people.😱 My biggest complaint currently is continuing to manage my anger when I’m triggered. I want to be able to extricate from interactions with indifference. So working on that. Having a menu of self affirmations to repeat helps. But got damn I hate liars and manipulators. I’m instantly offended when someone attempts access to my emotions especially what I call “empathy farming” when I’ve just met them. People who can’t feel empathy don’t get mine. How dare anyone try that with me. Gross.
@@karenabrams8986 💯💯💯 I can relate to parts. Also an autistic woman. 😁✌🏼 I recommend the book on anger by Thich Nhat Han who sadly passed this year. But take it with a grain of salt.
Although initially it sounds like Dr Grande was refuting what Amber Heard was saying in the interview, he actually seemed determined to find some way to allow her to keep playing the role of victim. He appeared to be excusing many of the horrible things she did to Johnny Depp, by asserting she was just responding to his behavior. While no one is saying that Johnny Depp committed no wrongs in the relationship, the overwhelming evidence indicated that Heard was the perpetrator of the abuse. Yet Dr Grande tries to claim that her aggression was really just her response to being afraid. I don't know if it's because Amber Heard is a woman or because she's attractive that keeps Dr G from admitting that she is very much an abuser. If the situation was reversed, and the evidence pointed to Johnny Depp as one committed the abuse, I don't believe Dr Grande would've allowed him all the excuses that he was using for Heard.
I totally agree. The Doc is usually much better than this. I don’t care either way about these people, but I am fascinated by law and psychology and watched the whole trail. She is definitely the abuser. JD is definitely a normally very kind person who avoids his pain by using drugs. I can’t figure out if the Doc has a thing about addicts (he seems to think that being an addict means you have to be guilty of everything someone accused you of) or if he’s sexist (can’t believe a mere woman is capable of such destruction) or is it that he’s just what we British call ‘c*ntstruck’ by her beauty and charisma. I would not blame him if it’s the last. It’s her trademark. I would say all of her relationships rely upon that charisma to start with. ‘Come into my parlour’ says the spider to the fly… That’s why she had no friends in court except her poor sister. She bedazzles and enchants, then chews up and spits out, repeatedly. The Doc is still in phase one, I think.
She's incapable of taking responsibility because she genuinely convinced herself that she's correct. Manipulative people also have a way of manipulating themselves. This is the kind of behaviour someone exhibits when they've never had to take responsibility for their actions.
People like this always end up exposing themselves. I know from personal experience. Went through three years of hell with an emotional leech of a partner, and they weren't very happy when they crossed my final red line in the sand and got dumped. Embarked on a campaign to isolate me from my friends and demonise me so that I wouldn't get freelance work any more. Refused to take responsibility, was totally convinced that they were the victim of emotional abuse and that I deserved it. Started leaking emails and chat logs after I asked them to stop. Didn't stop when I tried to take my own life. I was made to feel utterly worthless and for a while I genuinely believed I was an irredeemable abuser. But then everybody slowly came crawling back over the following months to apologise for me: my ex had been lying about their financial situation to get donations, and was spending them all not on utilities or rent, but on - get this - porn and videogames. When it emerged that they had been doing this they dug the hole deeper and again played the victim, except this time it didn't work. They didn't seem to comprehend why lying like this was wrong and why people were angry. As usual it was blamed on me as if I'm some kind of master manipulator super villain. No apologies given or responsibility taken. Permanent manchild for all eternity. I see a lot of parallels with Amber Heard. These people simply operate on another plane of reality to the rest of us. You can never understand or trust people like Amber Heard or my ex. They do not play by the rules and the worst part is that half the time they don't even realise why that's wrong, and they certainly NEVER care.
I don't think that's quite right. I think Heard's base assumption is that she's right and then she retroactively edits, rationalises and recontextualises her past actions to fit with that assumption. Recordings like the "I don't punch you I hit you" tape show that she's more or less aware of what she does even in a fit of rage, she just refuses to take responsibility for her actions and opts to gaslight and victim-blame. On some level I wager she even understands that what she did was wrong, but to admit it, even to herself, would shatter her galaxy-sized porcelain ego.
@@AliRadicali but once she could break her illusion and attempt to be brutally honest, can she mend? Maybe it's a struggle that she will have to fight for rest of her life.
I do not believe a woman or a man suffering from domestic violence so severe that they are in fear of their lives would gift their abuser with a huge knife engraved with something like till death do us part. I don't believe anyone is ever going to convince Amber Heard that she should sit down and hush and maybe this too should pass. I also believe Johnny Depp that he was the victim of the physical abuse. I feel like in the end Amber's claims were just unbelievable like insisting on the sexual assault with a bottle that was possibly broken and doesn't immediately go to the hospital. I feel like in the end Amber Heard claims just did not make common sense.
Agreed. Even if there's any truth to her claims, there's just too many inconsistencies between her testimony of her claims, the evidence she presented for them and the actions she took at the time. Her claim about the assault with the bottle, for example, should've resulted in her sustaining horrible injuries and yet, there's no medical records or pictures of that incident, yet, she took pictures of events and injuries that seemed very minor by comparison (not to mention, there's elements to believe that evidence was fabricated). Johnny Depp may truly not be the perfect victim, but she was lying through and through, imo, I believe her to be the sole perpetrator.
Its been information overload with this whole trial but the fact they tried to make out she wasn't obligated to record her injuries and that doesn't mean they didn't happen and why would she blah blah I forget the way they framed it but it made me angry because the suggestion was women who did were the bad ones. Many women have had their actual abusers put away because they recorded the evidence it was just ridiculous to suggest she would record him sleeping him smashing cupboards every convo and scarcely one pic of any real injuries of these huge fights they had. Oh but she has notes....
@@mamacito1795 it is hilarious she actually really believes if she was allowed to present her therapist notes as evidence and show the jury it would change anything...like really all the lies she told and nobody believes anything she said but if they had just seen the "evidence" of stuff she told her therapist because obviously there was no way it was lies
@@samgoff5289 precisely...no pictures noone else to corroborate but if only they'd seen the things she had told her therapist it would've all been flipped to her advantage!!!
Her ex assistants DV was where she stole the bottle story who was assaulted in Brazil by a stranger. Her using this in court has reopened that horrific incident and has traumatized that woman all over again. She has no insight on how much she hurts those who are truly victims. She needs to go away and stay away.
And I’ve known women like her. They’re the kind that will abuse their man again and again and then when he pushes her off of him and she falls she’ll go “OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU HIT ME! HOW COULD YOU?! YOURE A VILE ABUSER!!!!!” There is no way she would’ve missed the chance to document every bit of abuse. I mean look at all the embarrassing pictures she took.
I'm dying to see her sliced up feet pictures and I'll be dead before I see him lol, and oh my God as a woman who has been brutally abused I have so much evidence thank God I didn't have to go to court, having the doctor and and hospital medical records's plus the police hauling this monster off I didn't have to even testify ~ he pled guilty, She is a piece of work, it was so bad and she can’t produce one verified photo of her sliced up feet broken nose, ~her face would be shredded with those rings on his fingers I'm not saying Johnny is an angel but he's not saying he is either I'm saying take some responsibility Amber turd Amber heard is a liar Psychopath Diagnosed with numerous disorders I hope she gets the help she needs, but she won't because she doesn't think she needs help🤯 So yes, I don't believe she should be taking care of anybody's child!! She's a danger to anyone that comes in her path She has no friends, just people she uses until she's done with them
Years ago, I had a friend just like her. She's not a friend anymore. But when you live long enough, you meet all kinds. All I can say is choose your friends carefully, and run if a friend is like this woman. 😁
Just another manipulating narcissistic person who always blames others for her shortcomings and brushes off donation and pledge as same thing. Congenital liar.
Was in a narcissistic relationship and that is exactly how they think. They feel as though they are never wrong, they never fess up to mistakes and so on... no matter how nice and civil JD is with Amber, she will blame-shift, deflect and smear him.
My step mother is a narcissist and not one of us in the family ever got an apology. Even when proven wrong she would she would never apologize just move on
True. My daughter in law is a narcissist and she will NEVER say I'm sorry - no matter what she does. Haven't been around each other now for several years. It's just so stressful....
💯 - when I listened to the full audio recordings long before the trial, they were so familiar to me after my own relationship, I knew then that AH was the abuser. The manipulation, the gaslighting, the inability to take responsibility or apologise etc. It was all there. And so obvious that it almost hurt to hear it. I’m sure anyone who’s endured similar experiences in relationships could sense the dynamic between JD & AH and understand just how much JD suffered at the hands of this abusive narc. Her narcissism is the reason why AH (being so blind to her behaviour and her negative traits, and so quick to blame everyone else) will never be able to comprehend why it is we don’t support her stories, why she lost the court case, why we all see right thru her lies. She’s the absolute definition of the typical narc abuser imo.
I’m sick of everyone trying to make the argument, “they were both abusive.” Amber’s only been caught lying everything. There’s no evidence of abuse from Johnny, just Johnny getting mad & slamming cupboards after finding out $100 million was stolen? He slammed his own furniture, that doesn’t mean he hit her. Even after proving his innocence, ppl will try & spin he was abusive in there somewhere. See why he had to sue for defamation & had to have the court broadcasted?
They were both toxic for each other. And both had terrible coping mechanisms that not only did not help them cope but led them from bad to worse. When driven/triggered to react, neither one abstained from habits that brought relief, but alienated the other. Johnny took it out on drugs and abused jt heavily for many years, in the privacy of only his home. And Amber took it out on Johnny. It shouldn't be so much of trying pinpoint or spin it to the angle that he's abusive towards her. It's more like, people like them, they get ugly in their respective ways when they don't get things the way they prefer. So in relationship dynamics both did respond and interact with each other badly - running away/ avoiding discussions and then returning to love bomb each other, screaming and lashing out and things and at the other party, where other couples may have chosen to adjust and adapt, negotiated and backed off but return to discuss and agree on a way forward. But at the same time, it is not to be overlooked that on every count, Amber did cross the line.
Exactly. Amber and her lawyers said that people didn't like her because she wasn't the perfect victim, but she wasn't a victim at all and it was Johnny who was the imperfect victim. He had his issues...he was a drug addict, he got mad, cursed, slammed cabinets and drank too much wine. He said nasty things in texts, but at end of the day there was no evidence that he abused Amber Heard and plenty of evidence she abused him.
@@usermc1234 Doing drugs is certainly a self destructive coping mechanism. But I think we should be careful with implying that someone healthier would be able to handle that relationship better, or even make it work. I seriously doubt that anyone would be able to have any sort of functional relationship with AH by communicating effectively. When you are being abused, sometimes all you can do is remove yourself from the situation
Slamming and throwing things is intimidation and controlling in nature and abusive. Someone who acts violently like that has a quick trigger and enjoys causing fear in others. It IS abuse. Stop normalizing abuse.
I fail to see how the trial was unfair. The judge did her job and the jury did theirs. Amber Heard lost because she could not back up her claims, not because the trial was unfair (regardless of how many freaking llamas were lined up outside the court). I wouldn't be surprised if Depp's attorneys filed a motion to cease and desist and the judge granted him an injunction. Maybe a few nights in jail for contempt would shut her up. Those of us who watched the trial learned that Amber Heard couldn't tell the truth if her hair was on fire.
The trial WAS unfair, just not the way SHE thought it was. She didn't deserve a cent. JD didn't do anything to her, his attorney did, and regardless of what he said, it had ZERO impact on her career. JD on the other hand lost 2 movie roles from her lies, just ONE of which was worth $50 million. So he got screwed because SOME on the jury wanted to be "fair" and give AH a little money and not be too mean to her even though she deserved to get hit with at least a $60 million settlement. Oh, and then let's not forget the BS that the state doesn't allow the jurors to know there is a $350K limit on punitive damages, so they thought they were giving him another $5 million only to have that basically wiped out.
Dr. Grande did say that there was some.truth to the unfairness of the trial her supporters claim there was. His analysis confuses me because he never explains those kind of comments and it scares me because people listen to him and walk away thinking that it's true.
@@loril3458 The difficulty with an ongoing case like the Heard-Depp trial is that people like Dr Grande have done several videos. They cannot repeat everything said in every other video. You are correct in noting that he does not explain his conclusion here. I vaguely recall that he did explain his reasons for saying that he thought there was some unfairness in the trial in another video. I also know that there are some very discerning followers of Dr Grande who do not necessarily agree with all that he says. I think I have watched 90% of his videos and he generally does explain his reasons. And you are one of the more discerning videos because you have noted something of concern, and raised it quite respectfully. I watch these channels not just for the person making the video but for the interesting comments that people make, like you have done. It helps us think more carefully and aim for greater balance. So thank you!
Alpacas. The dressier cousins of Llamas. But still, no foul there. If the jury had all been Alpacas? Well, that may have produced a different outcome. We shall never know.
Exactly I have a friend who gets hammered by his wife. He does not physically fight back but he does bellow. I don't blame him one bit. I only wish he'd leave.
I think that AH planned to use JD drug problems against him.... Even Before they were married.... That's why she took so many photos or Video's of JD looking bad.... & That's why she was the aggressor.... To try to get abuse documented... She could only handle this form of marriage ONE YEAR.... & Finally made her face look abused.... & Filed for Divorce & changed the locks & of course contacted the media.... & Made herself a part of the ME TO MOVEMENT.... It was All her Plan.... But she didn't Plan on Camera's in the Courtroom & Losing the Case to JD & having Public Option turn against her
What’s tragic is that his mother was an extremely abusive narcissist (in his interviews as a young man - he’s *very* self-conscious and interviewers think he’s just making jokes about his mother - honestly it’s painful to watch now), and Johnny like so many people who were abused as children tried to “repair” the broken parental relationship when he married - in this case he married a dark mirror of his mother in Amber, another abusive narcissist.
yes when you finally get to the snapping point you can start to say mean things because I did as a defense mechanism or I was going to die from the stress it was too much. I was breaking out in sores and nearly died from infections, plus a bleeding ulcer that I called my own ambulance when my husband refused to take me cuz he was tired (from doing nothing all day).
After listening to the audio tapes and all of the evidence, I can never agree that Johnny was ever abusive to her. He loved her, and when listening to the tapes one hears here over the top verbal, psychological and emotional abuse of Johnny Depp. He was always calm and trying to talk to her in attempt to keep her escalation down. The only time he would yell and verbally abuse her is when she started to strike out at him. He would usually spout off and then retreat to a bathroom to keep them both safe. She claims that Johnny retreating to the bathroom was abusive to her. I have also heard the whole tape of the Australian incident in which Johnny's finger tip was severed off, the whole tape was not allowed as Johnny's assistant, who is heard trying to talk Amber down and how to get her back to LA and also the evidence they were finding, has passed away and of course couldn't testify to what he saw. This whole tape is a eye opener. Amber Heard, needs to go away and stay away
I agree, having experienced someone quite similar, it's the tapes of continued verbal, psychological and emotional abuse which are so familiar to me. Interestingly, the way that Amber plays out these scenarios with the police, media are also a similar pattern, Johnny was very fortunate she was not so successful with those. Again, Johnny is in the relatively rare position of being able to afford to confront her and the institutions who have supported her. There is no way an ordinary individual could do this, apart from the cost, most people would be emotional wrecks, reputations and careers destroyed. I wasn't aware of the reason for the lack of scrutiny of the severing of Johnny's finger tip. In terms of how this plays out longer term, I think Amber's opportunities to address her lies, mental illnesses, disorders are all dwindling. From my experience, she is most likely to remain in this twlight zone. Given the extreme and hugely public nature of her behaviour, I think she will be severely affected by in the medium term, and it will be very difficult to recover. Additionally, the Media coverage, such as this interview, is feeding off her illnesses and making it worse.
I wish she had been confronted with the Australia audio recording in this interview. I don't see why it would be legally unacceptable to play it and ask her to explain. WTF?!
I agree she needs to go away & stay away! She needs to stay out of the media completely, hide her face for 10 yrs so people forget her, then maybe come back? Shes making it worse still trashing Johnny! She must be really stupid! She says it's a set back for abused women! I think it's a wonderful break thru for abused men!! Amber hates men, She targeted Johnny for what she could get!! Now she's broke! Oh well, she caused it!! Feel sorry for her baby!
@@MeganVictoriaKearns My understanding is, it was not allowed in as evidence as Jerry Judge is no longer with us and able to testify to it. I know, it is sad but they were able to fully expose Amber without it.
She speaks like 4 different people. Her Audio recordings, during her testimony, on talk shows interviews and this dateline interview. The only thing in common is her lies though, she is very consistent with that.
and there is an extra one for bonus points, the hyper animated, snickers bar chomping, aggressive, insulting , smirking, laughing version of Amber in the 2016 Divorce depositions. right after the supposed abuse she was composed and full of herself, not doing faux weeping like at this latest trial
I think Johnny was only verbally abusive to AH because she pushed him to his breaking point. She purposely tried to get him angry in the hopes of getting it on video or audio to use as evidence. I give Johnny credit for not physically abusing her.
I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are trying to be as unbiased as possible. That said, there is nothing (and I do mean nothing) to show that Depp was ever harmful or abusive towards her. She, on the other hand, has a mountain of evidence showing her abuse towards him (up to and including outright confession of physical abuse). This isn't a story of "two people hurting each other", this is a story of one abusive partner trying to ruin the life of an innocent man. She is malicious and the jury saw that, nothing more and nothing less.
@@giyavictoria3747 Even if i accepted that was abuse, which i don't, AH also admitted she, too, was jealous and also was on drugs, particularly heavy alcohol abuse which she even continued whilst he was trying to stay clean. Now, with that equality out of the way, let's admit who was the real user and abuser during their time together....AH.
One discrepancy in your analysis: both JD and AH grew up in abusive homes. JD took on the role of peacemaker, but AH took on the role of aggressor. I believe this insight is reflected in the voice recordings He wanted to leave the fight and she wanted to engage. I can somewhat relate to that dynamic: my Mom was a domineering narcissist and my father was the peacemaker; I purposely chose to model my father’s behavior. So, like Johnny, I fell into the same dynamic in marrying, until the verbal abuse left me depressed & suicidal. After much counseling, I learned to identify a narcissist’s attitudes and behavior, and not get caught up.
I hope you are doing well and I hope the journey of surviving all that damage leads you to actually living and enjoying your existence. You deserve it.
I think it was a fair trial. They excluded the most damning piece of evidence against her, which was the recording of the aftermath of her cutting off his finger, that also proved she lied under oath in both trials. She was proven to have faked so many claims and lacked one single piece of evidence that showed he did anything to her. There was only one text that possibly proved he hurt her, and that was that he kicked her on an airplane (apparently shoved her with his foot down the aisle), but even then, she embellished it and added so much to that moment that she only incriminated herself more. You could see the anger on her face after leaving the courthouse after the verdict, which showed right then and there her true feelings and that she had learned nothing. Another thing she apparently lacks is the ability to consider consequences for her behavior or to accept consequences when she experiences them, as she continues to try to lie her way out of the consequences of her lying, pushing the public she wants so badly even further away. Maybe this is because Amber knows she always gets away with things and breaking the law due to her appearance and celebrity. She has no intention to pay any fines. All her money is going towards her PR blitz of the same lies. What she really needs is to go to jail for repeated perjury before she files an appeal and wastes more tax payer resources. But maybe bad attention is better than no attention for Amber. Maybe the worst thing that can happen to her is that everyone just ignore her and forget she ever existed, forcing her to live like most of us, in relative obscurity.
I really don't understand your views on this case. Are we always to assume that if you are in an abusive relationship that both parties are terrible to each other? This seems to be your argument throughout this case. They had their case in court and the jury found no evidence that Johnny Depp hit or mistreated Amber Heard. Johnny Depp was only found guilty of his lawyer saying something that was untrue. It would be much more interesting to use this as a case study to show to what length a narcissist would go to protect their image of themselves. Also to use it as a lessons learned never to get in to a relationship with a narcissist.
According to research, if you stay with an abuser long enough you will develop abusive traits. It becomes a race to the bottom for the both of you. Sometimes it's hard to determine who the main culprit is. I think Dr. Grande was attempting to give her the benefit of the doubt in part but overall he isn't convinced by her story.
Dr. Grande makes a few UA-cam videos every day, so I don't think he was able to make a fair assessment of the trial compared to someone who watched weeks of it like I chose to. It was a long drawn out display of evidence against Amber and when she was able to present her case it was weeks more of evidence, but as you say none of which proved Johnny ever laid a hand on her. You're totally correct that Dr. Grande is not accurate in his analysis, in my opinion due to him only skimming the evidence that the mainstream media presented to the public. This wasn't the type of case that can be understood by simply giving a cursory review of the evidence.
@@seanpellegrino2989 then maybe Dr.Grande shouldn't be making videos without first watching the trial and getting properly informed instead of making assumptions.
I have a similar view - just mostly because if you hear audio and see video you can see Johnny isn't behaving well. She was the aggressor and they were both terrible to one another. I mean I think you can say those things separately or together. It doesn't change the outcome of the trial, doesn't mean he hit her.
The way she’s still going, it wouldn’t surprise me if Johnny Depp sues her again as she continues to defame him. Thank you for the video Dr. Grande, I always enjoy the content you do. Take care!
The court should actually step in and order her to stop defameing him. She literally just got punished for it and goes right back to doing the same thing as soon as she can
I don't think he's vindictive, but maybe he could hit her( no pun intended) with a SLAPP suit like it happened to John Oliver when he did a musical skit dressed as a giant squirrel shitting on Bob Murray a coal CEO exec and the industry as a whole.
@@samgoff5289 That's just it. It would be tricky for a court to pull that off. I wonder if JD could get a gag order placed on her, then she would be in contempt of court if she keeps running her mouth. At the moment, she has the right to dig her hole as deep as she wants and then face more consequences.
I think her game is, get hundreds of thousands from NBC while her PR team attacks Depp both for his lawyers going on TV and him NOT going on TV. pray/hope/wish that JD will do a response interview, go to the next network to respond to Depps response interview, make a million bucks, rinse, repeat, end up with more than what she owes him and lure him into saying things where she can respond and claim she is not defaming him but simply answering him.
Dr. Grande- From reading into what you've said on this case, it seems like you believe that AH and JD are both responsible. I watched a lot of the case, not because I give a rat's ass about either actor - rather I was interested in how the dynamics of abuse would play out. Many who have experienced IPV, like me, took special interest in the case because of these features. I've seen a few other mental health clinicians on YT try to do a deep dive on this (with very few providing even satisfactory analysis), and it seems an overwhelming majority of legal and mental health practitioners have come out to say that AH was the instigator of the abuse. Personally, I feel strongly, based on what I've seen of the case, I believe AH IS the abuser. I found Dr. Curry very credible and her diagnoses to be spot on. I would love to hear YOUR thoughts on this as a clinician and a deep dive into how you read both parties and see their respective responsibility in this dispute.
I think that it was AH plan to use JD drug problems to set him up & claim Abuse.... Even Before they were married.... Which is why AH took so many photos & video's of JD looking or sounding bad... & Which is why she was the aggressor... She planned to have plenty of documentation.... She could only continue with that way of living for ONE YEAR & finally faked the Abuse & filed for Divorce & changed the Locks & notified the media.... & Became part of the Me To Movement... She was winning & JD was losing... Until - Camera's were in the Courtroom & he had Great Lawyer's & JD Won & Public Opinion turned against her... That wasn't her Plan...
she very likely has, but she also has a financial disincentive. She is republishing the same defamatory statements that got her sued in the first place. I wonder that there has been no cease and desist order, or possibly they are waiting for her to dig herself deeper.
There's a new recording out this week, that wasn't played in court. You can hear Johnny basically begging Amber not to go to court because it will ruin her career and he will protect her but she says she has so much evidence she is hell-bent on going to court it's a pretty sad conversation. (Well it's a new recording to me I've never heard it before)
It's not new. It's been out for a couple years. And the global humiliation text sounds more like he's telling his sister that Amber will humiliate herself and not that He's going to humiliate her.
@@BabyKangaroo279 yes. he tried from May 2016 to June 2018 to get her to desist with the lies and the escalation of them and meanwhile she was trying to convince him to literally rekindle their romance *despite* her unwillingness to recant her statements because of fear of losing her 'credibility' He said over and over he wanted to avoid court, that he doesn't enjoy it, she will hate it but that he will be driven to it if his kids keep getting bullied over this, he continues to lose work and he continues to have his name sullied. Depp very simply meant that if she didn't accept his two years of being willing to leave it alone as long as she would *stop* then her trying to defend against his own account of her would spell global humiliation because she is two things, a mediocre actor (her acting coach said this, Warner Bros said this) and she is an abuser whose bile is on several hours of audio recordings with double digits of witnesses and one past arrest for assault of her previous married spouse in public.
Watching even just the smallest segments of that interview, I found myself saying out loud; "Keep digging, Amber. You'll find the bottom eventually." Equally, you wouldn't struggle to find others yelling their support for her, and her claims that she was given a rotten deal at trial. It just shows how polarising the situation was. Would be interesting to hear your take on why such polarisation happens, and why people seem to dig their heels in further no matter what they hear. Is it cognitive dissonance, or something else? Always love to hear your break down of the psychology behind this type of event, and the personality traits that could be behind their behaviour.
Why when a man is abused and extorted people feel very comfortable saying both people treated each other badly. When a woman is abused no one will claim both the man and women treated each other badly. Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, less moonves (and the list goes on) never saw this kind of “fairness”. The evidence clearly shows her as being physically, emotionally and mentally abusive toward JD. On top of that he was extorted by her…listen to audio recordings and letter from her lawyer to pay up or risk the humiliation of amber taking her “abuse” public. I’m sick of “there r two sides to the story’ when men are abused and it’s black and white when women get abused.
I think the most important aspect of the jury verdict was that she was found guilty of defamation on ALL counts. He (or really, rather his lawyer) lost on one component of the statement about trashing her apartment. It was an overwhelming victory for JD and loss for AH.
She was found "liable". Not "guilty". It was a civil case, and guilt is only established in the criminal courts. It's probably worth noting that unless criminal charges are brought for assault, or perjury, or whatever, and a conviction secured against her, that it is not a legal fact that Heard is either an abuser, or a liar. This is because the standard of proof in civil courts is lower. Just sayin'.
@@Radagast- Depp did not have the opportunity to prove Ms Heard to be a liar in a criminal court because she wanted to have defamatory, life-destroying impact of the heinous accusations towards her victim without the scrutiny of a police investigation which would have revealed her lies and made herself criminally liable for making false police reports (see Juicy Smollet).
One of the most chilling paradoxes of this case is AH insisting "I have never called myself a victim" while at the same time she has been constantly wrapping herself in the flag of victimhood. But, while she may have successfully provoked JD info reacting (and to that extent she may be correct that he is surrounded by a phalanx of highly paid erasers / enablers), it was clear that she was a practiced instigator, her DVRO was tactical not protective (leaked to TMZ to humiliate Depp) & the ACLU op ed was also tactical, based at least in part on prior fakery, & timed to humiliate Depp while she rose. I think she enjoyed fights because, first, she got the testosterone hit from being aggressive and, later, she got the dopamine hit from self pity being a victim.
She was trying to say that Johnny could convince anyone to believe him , he even convinced the world he had scissors for hands , it’s the most insane thing I’ve ever heard and just goes to show she is absolutely a massive lunatic
Its hilarious because saying he convinced the world he was a pirate would make more sense because it's within the realm of possibility (but still not true) and much more recent to his career lol Literally couldn't have picked a worse movie to make her point
I think the scissorhands comment was some "clever" thing she came up with and couldn't wait to use. It was a great distraction technique, so non-sensical that everyone got hung up on her comment and forgot the question.
I think one of the reasons she lies is that she has contempt for everyone. Also, she is addicted to lying about her reality. She believes what she wants and will never see anything differently. Her faking injuries is worrying. If she does it to get attention, I would not put it past her to make her daughter sick (munchausen by proxy). I pray her daughter is being watched and protected.
Correct iv gone through this for 22 years now , she had my daughter dianosed Autistic for the financial gain , when really she actually allowed my daughter to be sexualy abused by her 2 brothers, im tryiing my hardest tl get her out the house with me (dad) my daughter is 18 now , and when she was 5 had severe beating of her mum , for telling me the truth , because she told me the truth , she had even worst beating for telling me . So she will never say anything again out or fear . She is terrified of her , but outside people think you would never get a better mother . 22 years of lies after lies , my ex is 50 very attractive . Coveted herself in bruises , accusing me, last time she used a hammer on her own arms & legs , horrendous big black bruises percectly round on arms & legs , but she is so convincing everyone beleives her exept her own family , as they know her , . Money money money lies lies lies ?
Excellent point. It’s like Mommie Dearest. I think people who are narcissistic have an underlying rage and anger temperament and it doesn’t take much to unleash the beast of aggression.
Amber was lynched by social media. It had to have influenced the Jurors. There's an old rule : " Men side with each other. Women backstab each other". And boy did it apply here !!! What was Amber thinking anyway ??? You don't go after a Hollywood Icon. As for Johnny Depp he came across as greedy, vindictive and petty. The Guy has a $200 millions net worth and he's going after a girl with a 12 million net worth. Jeez how low can you stoop ??? His ego was hurt ??? Really ??? Materialistic, merciless, narcissitic...Jimmy is miles away from his acting persona. This trial did way more to damage his reputation than Amber's accusations. Amber, touching and naive, is like that Spanish Character, Don Quixote, underestimating his opponents and engaging in fights way above her strength.
As a victim of narcistic abuse, it's hard for me to believe that Johnny is the driving force behind the agression of Amber. In my experience blames the narcistist his/her 'victim' of exactly that which the narcistist is doing to the victim (accusing and blaming Johnny for being violent towards her, means she was violent towards him, turning tables... Whenever they say "i never... " That's exactly what they're doing ("i could never Hurt Johnny") When she acuses him of doing drugs and him scaring her with his behaviour, it was the other way around.
Excellent analysis! I didn’t watch the interview personally. I wouldn’t have been able to stomach it. It’s so sad to see her continue to attack his character.
You hit the nail on the head at the end. And I'm pretty sure her narcissism can be traced back to childhood, where most people learn those kinds of defenses. I've ran into some exact duplicates of Amber Heard. I just wish we could get them some help and also watch parents more closely, so we could stop this cycle of narcissism.
I've often wondered whether the tendency toward narcissism is genetic or environmental, but I've always guessed genetic. If so, Amber may never change and will for her life but a narcissistic individual who can never take responsibility for her behavior.
I was kinda thinking this morning, "I wonder how Amber's father/family are affected by Amber's behavior?" I hope people in real life are not giving the family an undeserved hard time . . .
@@Vernal_DuToit I believe her drug addicted family helped her plan the taking down of Johnny Depp long before she met him! Drug addicts are opportunists and with her parents apologizing for Amber behind her back speaks volumes
Yes. Great points. Unfortunately, Children are not born with an Instruction Manual on Proper Care. Not only does the Child suffer incredibly, but also society writ large ... and most acutely those who get close, intentionally or not. Great Note!
With all due respect to dr. Grande, but I think he shouldn't claim that the verdict was "unfair" unless he saw the court case, I did and I think that the judgment was more than fair, actually to the fault as I don't believe that Johnny's attorney, was malicious in his statement, as he just stated of what HE believes happened, Amber destroyed her case herself with her constant lies and inability to take responsibly for ANYTHING, it wasn't jurors/ judge being "unfair" it was her inability to keep her story straight, the fakeness of her invisible tears and straight-up hatred she showed towards Camile Vasquez, not to mention credible witnesses on Johnny's side when her only witness was her sister, who's testimony should be taken with a Mount Everest big grain of salt because of her association with Amber, not to mention she seems to be equally as vile, disgusting and willing to lie when it suits her human being as Heard.
Wait, how do you know Depp was mutually horrible to Heard? All the evidence of his past relationships indicates the exact opposite. It's highly unusual for anyone to remain on good terms with an ex, but Depp has done so time after time after time -- his exes all continue to like and respect him -- and it's highly unlikely that a 58 year old would suddenly and drastically change a lifetime of habitual behaviors on a dime like he'd have to have done in order for us to believe he just suddenly wigged out with Heard, and Heard alone.
@@Zelda_Kitty No, what you're describing are called "arguments". If that makes him a violent person then everyone on the planet is a violent person. We know this because his exes continue to like and respect him, even to the point of making public statements of support for him and in the case of Kate Moss even testifying on his behalf. He undoubtedly had arguments with all of them because it's normal. That doesn't make him a violent person and it's obvious by their continued fond and supportive behavior toward him.
@@csmats5374 I agree with you! Argument doesn't mean a person violent, we all say nasty words here and there when we were angry, doesn't mean we are voilent. if that is then no one on the earth is not violent.
Toxic relationship, both acted like lunatics, he drinks and smokes like no one I ever seen. Not sure he punched her in the face, but he did abused her, and there is no such a thing I abused myself by drinking and using drugs. Asked anyone who had alcoholism in their family, fathers, mothers, is a nightmare. I do believe he passed out after a night of work, drugs and alcohol. I do believe he lied the same way she did. Both exaggerated their stories, both needed a lots of help, something I am sure he is used to. I sympathize by both being addicted to anything, including themselves.
It is dangerous to call it “mutual abuse”. It is not a crime to argue with your spouse and say mean things. We all are capable of behaving in such a way. But to the extent of beating your husband, cutting his finger and extorting money, that is irreparable damage done. She needs help and won’t accept accountability. Her issue is with herself and she’s continuing to abuse him even further in the media.
Mutual abuse is a term is couple‘s therapy and is in fact one of the most common types of domestic abuse there is. I think one must be careful not to use the term to minimize the abuse suffered by one party, but in this case I think they were mutually abusive towards each other. That does not mean that Amber Heard did not defame Johnny Depp; she lied about SA, and instances of physical assault. Johnny Depp was emotionally abusive to Amber Heard- he called her names and insulted her. It is literally on tape and he admitted to some pretty ugly text messages (to friends about Heard) in court. His admittance of these things was key to his case. Amber Heard was physically, physiologically, and emotionally abusive to Johnny Depp-again she admits to hitting him on on an audio tape, whilst gaslighting him by minimizing the harm she did to him. They were mutually abusive, even if the harm was not equal.
@@hdubbs9174 If someone yells at you and kicks you in the butt, and you then scold, then you shouldn't put things into perspective and say, well, they scolded each other.
@@ScaramouchedaVinci My comment explicitly says that "mutual abuse" is not an excuse to minimize abuse someone has suffered. Also, scolding and verbal abuse aren't the same things.
If there's a genuine quid pro quo in a verbal conflict, then I agree... However, I have met many people who will store real and imagined wrongs and disinter them for the purpose of winning arguments by scatter gun. The idea that nothing is forgiven, and all "wrongs" are likely future weapons, makes life with such people utterly miserable.
It makes no difference what topic you speak of, your delivery of humor makes me watch every video. You and your family are blessed to have each other. You guys are a perfect fit.
I did hear her audios (didnt hear his witnesses) and she did make me believe she is evil, despicable, aggressive, mean and manipulative. The reason why ppl took his side is not because his witnesses, is because her audios
This! I believed her. Felt awful. Was mad at him bc I liked him as an actor and didn’t think he was a bad human. But totally believed her. As soon as I heard the audio with her berating him I knew. He’s all demure, she’s cruel. Abuse victims wouldn’t dare talk like that to their abuser. And the abuser wouldn’t try to get away from the victim to hide. She did this to herself.
Amber was found to have been wronged by Johnny's former Attorney. That's what the award was for. When you don't mention that it wasn't Johnny, people think that he is somehow guilty of the abuse that he was EXONERATED of.
Both the case in the UK and in the US were NOT criminal cases, they were defamation; because of Amber's allegation about being SA and DV people focused on that element. No one within the judicial system both in the UK and the US have declared either of them guilty of abuse. In the UK Amber was not the defendant, their only job was to prove that the evidence they based their article on was believable; all they needed was sources that were in their opinion credible enough for The Sun (tabloid) not if Amber Heard herself was credible enough that would have to be separate. So the UK ruing basically says that The Sun had a legit reason for publishing their tabloid headline about him being abusive because the Washington Post article which we now know was aided by the attorneys from the ACLU...which I guess to the British judge saw it as sufficient. Personally, I find the ties the judge had with people connected to Amber very suspicious...Now, what makes the US defamation case MORE thorough is because Amber is the defendant. The burden to show she is telling the truth falls on her more than Depp since she is the defendant. Therefore the evidence submitted in the US is 10x more substantial (a lot) than in the UK trial. What makes this US case against Heard so vital and more important than the UK is that a jury found that not only is Amber's evidence insufficient and her story not as credible but that she did it out of malice.
Without a doubt! By not mentioning that it was something the ex attorney said people who didn't follow the case might think it was something Depp did or say. Not clarified at all that it was the attorney.
One situation in this really bothers me, “ Being the PERFECT victim”?? That’s horrible. Many victims are grateful to be survivors and work through, she triggered me, a lot, I know I was NOT standing alone on this. It’s so much to work through a lot, she literally lied.
I've heard every recording of their fights made public and I heard no real "abuse" from Depp aside from some reactive name calling whilst being hammered by her. He was obviously going through other issues and threw an unbecoming tandrum or two, and the juvenile back and forth was definitely not putting his best foot forward, but that was about 5% of what I heard. Never once did she mention anything about him hitting her. She tried once but failed. They were discussing one of the many times she was flailing on him, this time on a plane. She said "You were doing it too." and he promptly corrected her with "What??? I pushed you.", then she got real quiet... for about two seconds.
This is completely false. Johnny was completely abusive to amber heard in his drunk recordings. Forcing her to watch him cut himself, throwing things and banging things and some how blaming her for him wanting to do that. That is abuse. It was so triggering to me. Anyone that doesn't think both of them were abusive to each other is normalizing abuse and it's not ok.
The issue is that intimidating behavior such as slamming cabinets or verbal abuse isn’t what Amber was alleging in the op-ed. She was accusing Johnny of pummeling her multiple times in the face and sexually assaulting her with a broken bottle. There was no evidence whatsoever to back up these latter claims.
@@tbhat10 apparently there was a notebook filled of notes from her therapist documenting Johnny's abuse that wasn't admissible to court. Did she make up all those avusive incidents in therapy over a period of extended time as well?
JD never spoke on physical abuse on him by Amber until court. There are photos of him in public with black eyes, cigarette burns and bruises on his face not to mention the injury to his finger. It could have been a quiet, amicable divorce but she chose to make it public
It is clear that Amber was the sole instigator and abuser. Being a Histrionic, she thrives on creating drama, chaos and conflict. Her BPD shows itself through explosive, unprovoked anger and violence that comes out of nowhere. The evidence showed this. There was no escape for Johnny until he actually left her, but this fired up her vindictiveness and need for vengeance.
I havn't been following this really, but hasn't Johnny been proven guilty to violence/abuse (against Amber) in a english court? I still think Amber is lying through the whole trial, and rightfully lost, but sometimes it's like this trial was about who abused who, not if she wrote things she shouldn't. This seems to have been a really toxic relationship - from both sides. I'm not sure what my point is 😊 I guess I feel like the discussion post trial is about black and white, leaving no room for the greys in this case.
@Karicat Watts. Spot on. Johnny was pushed to breaking point, like most victims of narcissistic abuse. He was never an instigator or an abuser - at most a reactor, e.g. the cupboards video. The evidence in VA was overwhelming and, in the UK case, the judge basically dismissed the recordings and the police evidence, and found in favour of the Sun based solely on Amber's evidence. UK judge found that she was credible as she had paid 7 MIL to charity and was not a gold digger. The UK judgment was a miscarriage of justice, and 6 weeks of detailed scrutiny and cross-examination in VA debunked all the flaws of that wrongful decision. Thankfully, the VA trial was televised, so the whole world can see the truth.
@@MrsBumbulina Valid points. Definitely worth consideration. However, I don't know much about the English case, so I'll suspend judgement on that head.
‘Having faith that Amber Heard is a good actress is like believing that Edward Scissor Hands will win a balloon inflating contest.’ 🎈✂️ That was funny Dr. Grande! 😂
BTW Dr. Grande, I don’t know if you’re familiar with a 2 hour audio argument of Amber yelling, “you’re beating me up against the wall,” and Johnny says, “Amber, I’m not touching you.” She says, “I know, but when you leave during an argument….” It may not be exactly what was stated, but that’s the general gist. She considers abandonment (him walking away or leaving during an argument) as physical abuse, and she feels it physically. Whether that was a ploy or real is undetermined.
JD and AH were not "just as awful" to each other. AH picked and picked and picked on him and would hit him if he didn't respond. Then he would either leave the room or go elsewhere out of the house. She would yell at him and insult him for trying to get away from her abuse and call him names and try to get a rise out of him. How is that being "just as awful or terrible" equally to each other?
I have to disagree with you on the fact about Amber being a victim in any way shape or form, you obviously still can’t acknowledge the fact that women can be the abusers in the relationship. I’m no Depp movie fanatic but I’ve been around her kind and they will literally make you think you’re losing your mind and make you say things you might not otherwise say. I’m sorry but with the amount of abuse she said she endured, she would have wound up in the hospital at some point, because some of that she talks about, there is no “toughing” it out and going out in public, that is the biggest bunch of crap I’ve heard of. It’s about time that it gets brought out what a narcissistic abusive woman can do to a man.
I agree. Especially about the "bottle incident" placed...she would have suffered terrible tearing from such. Nobody seemed to go there. Then the cigarette incident on JD face was not dwelt on
The good Dr's problem is he probably has a good wife. ... Lol what I mean by that, is, he maybe can't imagine a *woman* behaving the way Amber does, with no previous provocation.
Dr. Grande, is there some specific data point that makes you believe Heard was NOT the initiator of abuse/The Abuser in the relationship (vs mutual abuse or Heard as purely reactive)? This case is such an important opportunity for male victims of female perpetrator violence to finally be recognized, and I cringe at how they must feel when it seems no amount of evidence is enough to be believed. 1) Depp has no prior history of IPV, was emotionally and physically abused by his mother growing up (possible lowered defenses against another female perpetrator), and appears hardwired to appease and retreat in the audio of his interactions with Heard. 2) In contrast, Heard has a significant prior history of IPV (see below), was abused as a child but emphatically REJECTS identifying as a victim (some abuse victims identify with/emulate their abuser), and seems to dominate, demean, and physically aggress in the same way abusers do. Heard's IPV history is extensive. She: - admitted in audio to hitting Depp and deflected responsibility, minimized the abuse, [EDIT: refused to commit to not doing it again,] and called him a "baby" for complaining about it (classic Abuser playbook) - [EDITED:] spent a night in jail for physical aggression against her former partner in public in an airport in front of witnesses (volatile, poor self control, baseline belief that physical aggression is okay?) - [EDITED:] participated in a mutual physical altercation with her friend Raquel after expressing anger at Raquel for overlooking some housewares they'd been searching for (per Raquel, she pushed Heard, then Heard hit her in the cheek), - allegedly hit her sister Whitney multiple times per the sworn declaration of Whitney's friend Jennifer Howell (with further corroboration via the reality TV show clip). It just makes me wonder what will ever be enough to clear Depp's name, and by extension, when will all the male victims of female abuse who are currently trapped in silence finally be able to get the belief and support they deserve.
Well said. It is maddening what abusers like AH get away with. She is dangerous for all victims of abuse - whatever their gender, because by being believed or supported she sends a message that as long as you are successful in manipulating the truth and exploiting anyone or anything for your own agenda with no consideration for others, your own abuse will be ignored, while those whom you falsely accused will be punished.
I just realized I know Jennifer! I literally graduated with two of her cousins and met her on several occasions at events and parties. I don’t know her well but do know she wouldn’t insert herself into this situation unless she had no choice. Heard tried using Jennifer’s charity in false court declarations showing she was a ‘humanitarian.’ Such a small world.
I heard Dr Grande’s analysis after the verdict. That analysis indicated very strongly to me that he had not followed very much of the trial or done that much research. So I think contrarily to in other cases Dr Grande is not enough informed about this case
Best line of entire video: “The narcissistic shield can reach a point where it is so impenetrable, even a man with hands made of scissors could not break it.” 🔥 😮 ☠️
I'd like to share with all of us who have been following the case the following curiosities : - Amber Heard tale about babies in microwaves was also discussed in Season 1 of True Detective. - Amber's bottle grape story was curiously enough used in the movie Gone Girl, which I suspect quite heavily inspired our pathological narcissistic liar.. - She used the "A few good men" quote about the truth on the stand.. She seems to takr a lot of her ideas from popular movies and tv shows.. As an actress it's highly probable she's an avid film enthusiast.. If you've seen other steals from shows in the trial, please share them, Im sure there are more..
Sherri Papini lied about her kidnapping and was inspired by Gone Girl and a real attack that happened when she was younger to someone in her year in school I believe. She’s believed to have the same personality disorders.
She was the perpetrator... NEVER the victim.When you defended her...that she might be right in some aspects...it really made me sick.Sorry doc, but I m used to telling the truth, nothing less than that.Still, I appreciate all your work, it does give us some very strong insights.
Your analysis of Amber Heard sounds spot on. She does not represent me nor is she my voice. She’s never going to admit responsibility so it’s better she just disappears into the background and takes this time to be with her daughter. One can only hope she finds a therapist and gets the treatment she needs. Great video. Thank you Dr Grande.
I would love to hear some insight on how she responded angrily and adamantly during her cross examination specifically when referred to as a "victim." It was the most anger she actually showed, but it was that "I have never, NEVER wanted to be seen as a victim, nor have I ever called myself one." It was during the exchange about the donations / pledge back and forth. Since links usually get auto deleted, go to the Law&Crime Day 16 part four cross examination at 1:45:00 for reference. Even during this interview, she says things like "I'm not a perfect victim, I'm not a good victim" but she still never actually says she's a victim.... at all. She doesn't say "I'm an imperfect victim" she just says that she's not a perfect victim. I wouldn't pay it any mind normally, but seeing how she reacted so strongly to the word "victim" that it stands out.
Amber needs the attention. Of course, good attention would be best but bad attention is better than nothing. I worked with someone like her who made up a story about me. Every time she repeated the story, it was like the fish that got away…it kept getting bigger and bigger. Luckily, I had 30 years without causing a problem and she had numerous incidents and ended up being fired. It was a horrible time in my life but I learned a lot about BPD and Histrionic disorder. More than I cared to know😳.
Yes. Sorry you had to endure that but it does make us all wiser at least. I think also she is stuck on her pathology. How they think they can’t ever “lose” even when they’ve already lost. She cannot accept defeat.
Yes!!! I had a partner like this, also. She also “borrowed” my identity and experience, when she thought it made her more interesting. She didn’t only do this to me…she was pretending to be Jewish before we met, and I’m sure that’s not the first identity she appropriated. What’s sad is she also had an interesting life, and talents, but she had a weak identity, and didn’t know who she was. I hope she has been able to get some help, and knows herself better now, but she had really cold parents and her behavior is probably deeply ingrained.
No, you don’t know anything about BPD. I’m sorry that happened to you, but amber does not represent people with BPD. I have BPD and I am nothing like amber, she disgusts me. She’s a narcissistic sociopath with BPD. That’s very different
No, she was the aggressor. She admitted it on recordings. Johnny was the victim, period. He was verbally abusive yes , after the exasperation he suffered! That’s why it’s pointless to stay or engage with these abusers. She was the victim of $500 bottles of wine , friends and family living for free at his penthouses and paid vacations and trips by Johnny. She’s not afraid she will be sued again. She is continuing to defame Johnny and it has to stop!
The only way it will stop is by media outlets not enabling her in shows. TV channels didn't get their way and want to milk it, and AH is smart to use them.
Dr. Grande, I love your dry wit. I bet your outakes are hilarious. How do you stay so stoic when you are delivering zingers? It is fantastic! One has to listen to your videos intently to notice your injection of light humor.
Could someone explain to me what was "unfair" about this trial? From what I saw, the judge did an excellent job of allowing and disallowing evidence based on the scope of the trial. But Dr. Grande seems to think Amber may well have not gotten a "fair" trial (as well as thinking Johnny was equally at fault for treating Amber as badly as she treated him, though I honestly did not see any evidence of that at all).
She was heard in court before a jury of her peers, many DV victims don't make it to court to state their case I didn't take his analysis that way. As he said, her evidence did not back up her claims. I thought he went pretty easy on her.
I know right! I'm surprised that Dr. Grande would reference this as an equally bad situation. We all know darn well that if Heard was brutally raped and then physically tortured almost daily by Depp (as she claims), she and her "loyal" sister and cohorts would have taken PLENTY of pictures. Yet, Heard's most documented "damage" was a photo of a faint red mark on her face and a faint dark mark on her arm. Absolutely NO sane DV victim would taunt and laugh in their abuser's face. Seriously? Dr. Grande seemed to curiously miss the mark on some key points in this case.
I don’t see it either. Yes they were emotionally abusive towards each other. But that is not what this case was about. It was about her defaming him by saying he physically abused her (which there was very little or no evidence of) which caused damage to his career. The jury decided based on the evidence, that was correct.
@@goldilocks3593 They weren't emotionally abusive to each other. There wasn't any evidence of that, either. Please stop repeating this lie, it's low key victim blaming and disgusting.
Heard was really trying to "win" in social media. She is addicted to building her image as a domestic violence goddess. it didn't work for her, but she will keep trying. Pathetic.
Honestly, Dr Grande's take on this is a little confusing. The reason she lost, was not simply because of her bad strategy, her poor acting, her narcissistic delusions, her lack of public support, her bad team! It was because the "mountain" of evidence she offered was GAS LIGHTING the jury, the judge, the public , the true victims and even her blind supporters- nothing she offered proved what she intended! Quite the opposite! Her poor lawyers struggled to pull out tricks out of their hats! And she is continuing to gas light all of us with this interview! I honestly would like to hear the points that her supporters make in her defense, that you Dr Grande found "good"! Just because Johnny is "richer", more famous, a better actor and a man, does not mean he does not deserve justice and clearing of his name!
I have been through AB and I do not want to be around that person, I don't want to communicate with them unless absolutely necessary. A real victim will want to be as far as possible.
I love your even handed approach to this case… the thing that creates so much upset in so many people is that she cannot let go even though as you say she is just digging her own hole of lies even deeper… is this NPD/ BPD/ HPD or Bipolar? Will we ever know? Is it even our right as the audience to crawl around in a clearly damaged persons psyche? She has argued that social media caused her to lose but I do zero on social media I hate it’s intrusive nature, I got drawn in to watch this because I wanted the wronged woman to win. However she came across in such a discombobulated bizarre fashion combined with her constant taping & photographs of poor Depp & her crazy audio tapes which actually only served to show how malignant and distorted she herself was! So I was forced to change my opinions. I hope she gets the help she needs as she is clearly very mentally unwell.
she is gaslighting planet Earth. Social Media was not fodder for the trial, the Trial was fodder for social media! Social media is the *reaction* to her lack of credibility in court and has zero to do with what the court decides.
I agree! I was really shocked and sad when I first heard of her accusations. I don't use a lot of social media either and it's strange she keeps bringing it up. The trial was in a court of law, not online. I am happy for JD and I hope he can stay away from this dangerous woman. I feel bad for actual victims because she alone has caused a tremendous amount damage to the real people that suffer from dv.
She lost in the court room where she had the opportunity do defend herself. She is blaming everything and everyone but herself. She will not take responsibility.
There's no need to speculate about why the jury didn't believe her. They didn't believe her because the evidence she presented contradicted her testimony. This was pretty obvious to anyone who actually watched the trial. And what exactly was unfair about the trial? Her supporters calling unfair it doesn't make it so. Rather than simply repeating their claims, can you identify what was "unfair" about it?
I really find his takes on this case quite appalling but if you look back at his history of videos on women he finds attractive such as Jodi Arias, Elizabeth Holmes, Cassie Anthony, and Karla Homolka, he cannot resist the inner simp coming out and offer some non-sinister mitigating excuse for their behaviour to slip in. The evidence of Amber Heard's long-term history of violence (even independent of Johnny) is overwhelming and indisputable. Multiple people testified to witnessing or experiencing her violent rage towards friends, family and sexual partners; yet, Dr Grande insists on insinuating that Johnny was the unique sandpaper igniting her match. Victim Blaming 101.
A funny part of the interview: Amber: "How could jurry convict me after seeing all the evidence?" Savanah: "So you blame the jury?!" Amber: "No, I don't blame them! But how could they see all the evidence and convict me?" Savanah: 🤪 Viewers: 😐
You’re 10 minute overviews and analysis of cases makes my day!!! I love your candour & authenticity when you give your opinions!!! Thank you Dr Grande!!! 😊😊😊
I thought her testimony was incredibly damning. How can you say you got beaten and were afraid for your life but and the same time say the beaten wasn’t that bad and that you had no reason to be afraid of him?
And mocked him even more!!!. It's what my son's girl does.....continually ....to get a reaction. To this day he's not touched her as he's 6' 3" and she barely 5' . police have pictures of his bites ...bruises etc from her and even with restraining orders have not locked her up. My son should run from her but.....feels pity instead. THATS what AMBER thrives on....to get her way. Such a sorry life. I worried forca while about her being suicidal but believe shell destroy everyone she can.....the BLAME GAME
Please explain what exactly are “the good points” that AH has that the trial was not fair??? If you actually watched the entire trial you would have seen just how fair it was. Also, it’s misleading to state that they were both guilty of defamation. AH won one claim that was in regard to Johnny’s lawyer’s statement. That is not exactly the same thing as Johnny himself defaming her. He still has to pay because it’s his lawyer but that is important context you should probably include because it’s not exactly equal like your choice of words implied. I love your analysis on all cases, even when I don’t agree with you, but this particular one you have covered several times, it’s very obvious, based on several things you have said, that you did not watch the whole trial. It’s unfortunate too, because AH has been found responsible for defamation of another person that most people would be imprisoned for if they were true. She was caught, on the stand perjuring herself, multiple times. Again, you would know this if you watched the whole trial. It doesn’t seem like you did. Those are my thoughts and opinions. JD did not do the things she lied about. He had problems he admitted to. His biggest problem he had was getting away from his violent, abusive, wife at the time. What a nightmare!
I agree wholeheartedly. The trial was absolutely fair. And, it was a whopping success in his favor. The one instance of a claim that A.H.’s side gained was small, according to attorneys. A.H. Had the same chance to speak as J.D., and present witnesses and experts. The cross examinations and recalls followed the same rules for both sides. Yes, there were mostly J.D. fans outside the courtroom. But why wouldn’t there be? ( to borrow A.H.’s technique.) Yes, the gallery inside the courtroom had mostly J.D. supporters, it seemed. But it could have been full of A.H.’s supporters if they had shown up. Actually, only one person still connected to her came in person to support A.H. -- her sister. I think you do good analysis in general Dr. G. Always worthwhile to watch. Ms. ValleyMermaid Designs- you are a good writer! Thanks!
u should watch dr honda krk psychologist who reacted to these testimonies. i wanna know whats ur thought on him . compared to that dr this dr is waayyyyyy better n impartial.
@@vibhanaik6282 Dr. Honda really letting his bias show with this case. Dude spends an hour in his video of making up dozens of excuses as to why Amber Heard may not be lying which is unnecessary when she's blatantly lying. I understand being unbiased to its no need to fence sit with the evidence in your face
@@vibhanaik6282, yea… I wouldn’t even waist my time on someone like that. I watch Dr. Grande because he is unbiased, reasonable and fair, without judgement in the way that a good doctor should be. Dr, Grande has a lot of credibility imho. I guess that’s why I’m surprised by him making an analysis without, (what seems like), watching the entire trial because I don’t believe if he had, he’d of said some of these things or come to some of these conclusions in his opinion piece here.
Dr. Grande says that Amber's fans have a point when they say the trial wasn't fair. I disagree!! How was the trial unfair? And trials aren't meant to be fair, they are meant to be just, (as in justice).
I don't really buy the mutual abuse narrative. I don't think Heard required provocation to be callous and cruel, or even violent toward Johnny. Saying mean things to your abuser after years of one-sided fights can hardly be considered "mutual abuse" if you ask me. I think Amber's decision to depict herself as a perfect, fawless saint and martyr on the stand was her extreme narcissism shining through. It ties in directly to her inability to take responsibility. Even when asked about it explicitly in the interview, the only thing Heard will admit to without qualifications is bad language. That's it. Everything else she was forced to do according to her new narrative.
NAILED IT! If you are being physically assaulted or abused you have every right to fight back. AH had been abusing JD physically, verbally and psychologically for years, and only at the end did he fight back, and then only verbally. To even hint there is the slightest bit of moral equivalency between the two is sick and wrong and once again abuses the real victim, JD.
"she is a terrible actress and repeatedly proved that on the stand". Well put!
she's a terrible liar as well.
That's where I lost it.
Haha I mean thats a self own... u lost because noone believed your acting hunny
I live for Dr. Grande's shade
I was abused as a child and a teenager for years, so was my sister, we are both pretty tired of hearing her claim to be speaking on behalf of all victims. Amber Heard speaks only on behalf of Amber Heard
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I'm sad to hear that. I hope you and your sister are treated well now ❤
Ah might be speaking for other liars but that's about it
Agreed
I wholeheartedly disagree that they were both victims in their relationship. Heard seems to have gone in with an ulterior motive, & she was plotting against JD almost immediately.
I agree!
I think she started telling her therapist she was the 1 abused in Johnny's relationship because she didn't want to spend the night in jail again for abuse like she did in Washington.
I also agree. Amber has proven time and again she needs constant attention aka Narcissistic Supply even though her words are she just wants to move on. Just like challenging JD to an interview post trial, Like Trump , she has to win at all costs. Textbook narcissistic behavior.
I agree. Look at her comments about Elon Musk
Yes. She must have plotted his demise from the start. And he was so flattered and love struck he couldn't see the signs until it was way too late
Note: Not one single DV advocate group has spoken out in her defense, nor did anyone from any DV group attend the trial to support her. My guess is that all of these groups will drop her like a hot potato and stay as far away from her as they possibly can. What AH doesn't see is that she actually caused more harm to real DV victims because even more so than before, their allegations will be scrutinized due to AH's false allegations and blantant lies.
Her terrible acting was on full display through her unnatural acting performance on the stand that sunk her ship. I believe it is because she does not relate to, nor does she understand normal human behavior and therefore cannot emulate it effectively.
The founder of the Girl Gaze Project already distanced herself from Amber, after hearing the recordings before the UK Trial.
Worse yet, we SEE HER, as the ABUSER.
Amber thought Girl Gaze meant staring the jury down.
Actually, I think some of those groups supported her in the beginning but most of them turned their backs as soon as the evidence started to show she was really the ab.user here. Sadly, there are still influential people who have her back.
Sarah,🤣💀
I think the worst thing about the interview is when she claimed Johnny assaulted his other partners but they're too scared to speak up when in fact 5 of his exes already spoke to his defence either in court or publicly!!
They were all "randos" on his payroll, remember? :D
She's just asking for another lawsuit at this point. What a stupid thing to say.
@@mercurymay39 so you know how abusive you sound. "She is asking for it". Something abusers say.
@@jamiecronin967 if you are going to quote someone then include the whole sentence stop trying to twist it into somthing else.....
They're not as "brave" as she is. She's disgusting and insulting.
The biggest irony was how AH completely disregarded the 5+ years prior to this case when (most of) the public and the media believed her without question solely based on the op-ed and cancelled JD with no proof.
Agree! i hope that does change, since this case happened - Just saying you suffered abuse (man or woman), does not prove anything. Amber did not damage women in abuse situations - The truth matters, and that's what this case proves - it does not deter women from reporting abuse, in fact, it no doubt opens the door to show and empower both men and women - Tell the truth, and it will prevail
That is a keen perspective.
I feel like people are totally misremembering this... Many people believed Johnny right from the start, people didn't just drop him instantly at all. It was only when he lost the libel lawsuit in the UK because the courts found Heard's accusations to be "substantially true" that he was dropped from Fantastic Beasts. She originally accused him of domestic abuse in 2016, the Sun ran the article in 2018 and he was only dropped in 2020. That is far from believing her without question.
Not all the public believed her. Some of us have prior experience with Borderline Personality Disorder.
In this trial, Johnny was able to fight back. He brought a patient demeanor as he finally opened up about who was hitting who. Amber should have let it go after he promptly paid the 7 million dollars in the divorce suit. But, no, a year after she had been paid, she writes an op-ed declaring herself a victim of domestic abuse, and he by implication an abuser. This was on the eve of a movie in which she was the love interest, and the article certainly drew attention to her. In time to promote herself beyond merely being the girl in the movie: she was the girl deserving sympathy as the punching bag of a powerful man and who was now declaring herself a leader for abused women.
Geez she's still defaming him. She's behaving exactly as Dr Curry said she would. He should make her pay and give it to charities or she'll continue to defame him (or other men) until she faces consequences. If he waives the 10M, she'll just turn around and say, "johnny didn't make me pay because he knows I'm the true victim and he feels bad". She's never been held accountable and that's why she's like this.
No one will believe that though. It was never about the money for Depp, and he won over public opinion before the trial even ended. No one will believe anything she says now.
It's possible he would insist in writing that the debt would only be forgiven if she stopped making public comments about him. And if she broke the agreement he would sue and seize assets.
A permanent injunction should stop her. If she continues then she would have to deal with the court and not JD.
@@Blank-41 you'd be surprised how many people still support her. Obviously way more support johnny but she definitely still has supporters
JD could make her pay over and over ad infinitum, Amber would still be convinced that she's the victim. She has no capacity for insight or self-reflection and will likely never change.
Also important is JD is not the 1st person AH physically assaulted. She smacked her friend Raquel in the face over a trivial matter and was arrested at a Seattle airport in 2009 for assaulting her ex wife Tasya, She later lied about the arrest in a deposition. Amber appears to be generally violent. In what universe would she be considered the voice for silenced DV victims?
She was drunk and a friend died in car accident that she caused.i think she was 16. Lost her license for years.alledgely
Amber Heard is a violent, aggressive person! I will never believe JD was violent or abusive towards AH.
I also believe she has a juvenile record for manslaughter. Of her BFF while AH was driving the car...
"In what universe would she be considered the voice for the silenced DV victims?"
In the universe that exists within the minds of her deluded, gaslighting, flying monkeys.
I hear your point BUT to paint Depp as angelic is wrong. Raquel confirmed she shoved heard first and her ex denies it. Depp is also up for assault towards a coworker. The things can't be used to say what their relationship was like. Even a juror has said they thought it was bidirectional abuse. Yes she has lied but Depp has also lied and we can't weigh that on scales of justice only that they're both not great. She shouldn't have done the tro and I don't know why she did it..... to get in there first maybe. She Def. Shouldn't have done the op ed. However if a juror thinks it was bidirectional then the outcome of the case was incorrect... it would be that neither proved their case and both defamed each other ✌
Dr. Grande, you don’t seem to think its relevant that in AH’s 30+ years, she has been accused of using violence several times, in JD’s 50+ years, none of his partners have ever accused him of it.
"The more she gets criticized, the stronger the protective layer becomes. Narcissistic shield becomes so impenetrable, even a man with hands made of scissors could not break it"
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bravo Dr. Grande!
Thoughtful and profound.
Thank you.
Yes!!! Agree....well said, doc.
👏👏👏😂👌
Sounds like a former President we know!
Amber was lynched by social media. It had to have influenced the Jurors. There's an old rule : " Men side with each other. Women backstab each other". And boy did it apply here !!! What was Amber thinking anyway ??? You don't go after a Hollywood Icon. As for Johnny Depp he came across as greedy, vindictive and petty. The Guy has a $200 millions net worth and he's going after a girl with a 12 million net worth. Jeez how low can you stoop ??? His ego was hurt ??? Really ??? Materialistic, merciless, narcissitic...Jimmy is miles away from his acting persona. This trial did way more to damage his reputation than Amber's accusations. Amber, touching and naive, is like that Spanish Character, Don Quixote, underestimating his opponents and engaging in fights way above her strength.
@@pittbabe2386 Don't you mean "current brain dead potato"?
When backed into a corner there are only two options, admit you were wrong and ask for forgiveness, or double down... As we see in 'real life', sometimes when you've lived a lie for so long, you eventually believe the lie. Either way, her career is irrevocably damaged, her only salvation is to hide behind the shield of her "cause".
Telling truth supposedly something we should do before backed into corner. I always found it's easier to telling the truth,,, I know it's not case for several people,,,, they like keep a layer of lies and cover it up with another layer of lies, like a not delicious mille feuille (sorry if I write it incorrectly)
I think she was actually physically abused, but it was more akin to JD restraining her during her physical outbursts. That's still domestic violence. In my practice, I've dealt with clients who are male and are struck by females who break a nail when striking their boyfriends. The boyfriend is successfully hit with a DV charge. In fact, in my state, throwing a phone of your partner is enough to satisfy a DV charge and make it stick. So I am mystified how the jury didn't find one instance of abuse by JD. That said, the lie about donating money and the photoshopped pics allow juries to justify simplistic thinking. You lie about one thing, you lie about all things. Trials are not about truth. Any lawyer will tell you that.
HaleysTusk, you are so right! She believes her lies even now. I like this bull about how she doesn't have the money. She got 2 million for Aquaman, 7 million from JD, and God knows what from her baby daddy. Oh, she's not telling who the daddy is. She wants her privacy. But taking pictures of your husband sleeping or loaded, or on the floor for all the world to see, that's ok. What about his privacy? Besides, she knows where she needs to go to get money. So that poor me routine is nonsense. America got it right. I'm not even a fan of JD. Never saw 1 jack sparrow movie and only 2 other movies which i saw for free. But what is right is right. And this guy was wronged by a loon he had the misfortune to find.
Kind of like Carlos Mencia stealing jokes. Even though there is irrefutable proof, he still to this day does not accept responsibility.
@@atomariola6410 There was no proof that he ever threw a phone.
He did admit to head butting her accidentally when trying to exit a door as she was attacking him and he turned to put up his arms to protect himself.
Amber has admitted to nothing.
Im this « oh well they were just as bad as each other » narrative….I don’t understand why it’s not completely obvious that NO…she started this. Violence is her thing. Manipulation is her thing.
It makes me so sad.
No one in my ex’s car orbit knows what he did to me. They think he’s amazing.
Sexual abuse. Physical abuse. Financial abuse. Emotional abuse. Verbal abuse.
Why can people not accept that sometimes there is a bad guy. And I’m this case, a bad gal.
Dr. Grande, I wish you watched the entire trial and listened to all the other audios that are out there. It is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that SHE WAS the verbal and physical aggressor. Because of her diagnoses, when Johnny would retreat to avoid her outbursts, she perceived him leaving as a slight…as abandonment. Add this to ALL of her over histrionics and lies and this is why the situation has become what it has.
Your videos on AH are good, but sometimes it seems that they could be improved upon with additional information that is obviously missing.
With respect, we will never know what happened when AH wasn't recording. My adult daughter is aggressive about getting what she wants. She should be on medication but she refuses.
I had to block her on social media 😒
I never knew what narcissism was until Meghan markle. It helps a bit.
He also said "the jury awarded Johnny 10.35 million." Whether or not Johnny can get it, the jury awarded him 15 million. They thought he deserved it.
"Even if you think I'm lying, you have to admit..."
Amber is the last person to tell anyone what they have to admit. She can start by admitting to a single lie. As a wise wino once said, "Can you try being wrong for once?"
Hahaha I like that !
I also noticed how audacious that was, considering the source. 😲
Yesssss. Exactly.
There is no "but" after you've been shown in court to be a liar. A Chronic Liar. Who lied. And lies. Even under oath. Lying. Still. 🙄 It's not that ppl necessarily just love love love Johnny Depp, it's that ppl hate a liar. Imho, that is. Thank-you 4 this video!!!
Well said!!
If she was lying (which she was) she deserves every bit of career-ending, monetary punishment and public humiliation that she got, and more.
She tried to ruin a man unjustly, so she should receive that ruination as her just punishment.
I was a victim of sexual abuse when I was in college. AH does not represent me. I find her testimony infuriating and triggering. She’s a liar who can’t even keep her story straight. She has done nothing but harm to the womens movement. I also wonder what kind of mother she can be when her head is so screwed up. She brags she is both mom and dad. Poor baby.
True. I feel for that child.
I'm sorry for what you had to deal with. I hope you are doing better now.
Sorry to hear of your abuse, but there is the problem right there that Amber exposed when you said "the woman's movement".
Both abuse & false accusations can happen to both genders and it shows a person cares about power, rather than ethical principles If they stand for a gender-first movement instead of ethics.
Likewise, i wouldn't support a men vs women's movement, i would support a principle about false accusations priven in court to be properly penalized (as would any fair person imo).
I'm so sorry you had to experience your abuse. Praying for your continued healing. ❤️
Her child will likely have a personality disorder as well.
I found watching Amber Heard testify traumatizing. Her behavior reminded me so much of my ex husband, I started having nightmares again. Whatever abuses she may have suffered, are overwhelmed by the weight of abuse she heaps. I sympathize with whatever abuse she may have suffered. No one deserves abuse. However, I empathize with Johnny. He was dealing with a personality that could, and would never be satisfied. She seemed to enjoy any pain he expressed, while he didn't have a similar reaction to her pain. I don't know about Amber, but my ex turned out to be a physical and emotional sadist. He enjoys others pain. I saw some indication this was a possibility with Amber...and it brought me back to a place where a locked door isn't enough to keep from getting hurt, and neither is moving out. Terrifying.
Insightful and great comment. I'm so sorry you endured so much abuse too and I hope the nightmares dissipate 🙏🥺 wishing you a kind and gentle recovery and life ❤️👑☀️💐🌺🌷🌸🌻
I've read no better comment about the whole sorry affair than this one. I have sympathy for her too, she's very troubled. But she doesn't represent me or any other women, let alone victims of DV, sexual assault or any other cause she thinks she can co-opt to suit her short term aims. She's not entitled to use the plight of others as a sword and shield. I've tried really hard to see it from her perspective, look beyond the grandiosity, the breathtaking level of arrogance, the cunning, deceit and apparent absence of shame, pity or sorrow. But the net result is that I find her entirely repellent.
This has nothing to do with your ex-husband.
Can you stop deflecting when a women is caught being abusive?
Every time it "oh yeah well this man..."
It's a large part of the reason so many men are forced to suffer in silence, they're drowned out by women like you.
I completely sympathize with you. I've had one for DECADES. But, I didn't hear any abuse by Johnny Depp, nor did any of his previous partners siggest abuse, nor was a modicum of evidence supplied by AH proving abuse. She didn't even accuse him of hitting her on her own tapes, much less committing sexual abuse.
DV and SA is not something you pick up in your 50s and reactive abuse is attributed to the abuser not the one reacting. It seems like the only reason anyone capitulates to any part of her claim is because she refuses to admit that she lied. Narcissists lie 'til they die.
He never abused her, he just let the wrong one in.
I also had nightmares though out the trial!
I am completely against public harassment, bullying and belittling of anyone, that’s something I will never condone. However, I also think it’s extremely offensive to falsely accuse a person of wrongdoing. If Amber was indeed a victim of DV, then she undermined her own abuse by her inconsistencies and lies on the stand, she should have just told the truth. She had a chance to tell her story and because she wasn’t believed she is saying that this was a setback for women. I completely disagree, her claims of DV were taken very seriously, but the evidence did not match what she was saying. Unfortunately, this interview did not bring anything that we didn’t already know, she doubled down on her claims, and did not own any responsibility again. Furthermore, she said that she still loves Johnny! I am so puzzled by this statement. If anyone reading this wants to offer some insight, please do so. I just can’t comprehend how she still loves, after years and a trial in between, the man whom she claimed abused her in such a horrible manner.
Fantastic analysis Dr. Grande, very insightful as always!❤️
Also, Happy Father’s Day Dr. Grande!💙💚💜
Well, when a narcissist says "I love you", he/she means "I can still (mis)use you". Narcissists have no concept of an emotional relationship, only of a utilitarian relationship.
Love? Can you imagine what that would mean to a person with her personality? I think her saying that is just yet more noise on her part, something else that makes her a victim.
She certainly loved the money and status (she believed) her relationship brought her. She throws out lies, half-truths and distortions all the time, saying she still loves him is just another example of how she can't empathise with a true victim.
She thinks it makes her look better. She thinks by saying "I still love him" we'll all be like "oh what a poor sweet girl"
It had the opposite effect though, just comes across like wtf...
What are you talking about. There was plenty of evidence. Pictures. But there were written off as being make up. Do you know how crazy that sounds. Wake the hell up along with everyone else. Johnny is a violent disgusting drug addict with a violent history.
She wants to come across as a perfect saint that has nothing but love for everyone, including her alleged abuser. She doesn’t know when to stop so she can actually look like a normal person, as Dr Grande said, in different words.
It’s almost painful to hear this woman busily proving the depth of her personality disorders. I am glad that I did not watch the Dateline interview, but only saw clips on line. The strength of her sense of superiority to others, and her distain for anyone and everyone who unmasks her internal ugliness is just disgusting. Sad. NO self awareness. Really sad. Johnny Depp never battered this woman. I don’t believe that her team will be able to come up with any grounds for an appeal..
From what i understand as far as an appeal goes she has to put the money she owes depp after the first trial in a sort of escrow until the second trial is over.
Well Said
@@randomme3095 I heard that to. They have to put up a bond in the amount of the settlement.
@@lindalumae that’s awesome so that probably means she can’t afford to keep this thing going right?
@@giaparmer unless Elon pays it for her.
Oh ffs, Amber was verbally and physically abusive to Johnny which is what drove him to being supposedly verbally abusive to her. He was not the instigator in anything!! She drove him to the brink of insanity and that’s the only way he fought back, verbally. She deserves a lot worse.
What Johnny implied is that Amber would bring great humiliation on herself and he was very right about that! Amber could’ve taken the millions (no one would’ve pushed her to donate it) and her aqua man career and been set. Instead she showed just how sick she is by defaming him and then wildly lying on the stand. She likely could have beat Johnny in court if she had not made such ridiculous accusations without the evidence to back them up. She did this to herself she truly doesn’t know when to stop
I agree with that. That is what he meant.
Well hopefully if she would have 'acted' differently on the stand, the evidence or lack off would have still had the same outcome. Not sure why everyone is saying a different outcome if behaved differently.
That's precisely it. She did not do the rational thing, which is to take the money and move on with her life. She took the money, apparently insisting that Johnny pay it all to her at once instead of installments (but ironically, adopting the installment plan when it came to donating that money herself), continued taunting him on social media ever since, and of course wrote the op-ed. So there's something else going on here, something beyond rationality, some madness.
@@skrtskit1521 AH has to one up him on everything ....when she could have moved on .. she decided to write an op-ed when he sued her she countersued for twice the amount claiming ptsd This brought HER mental health into court ...BAD MOVE ......when she could have won the case by proving 1 point of verbal physical abuse ...she came to court and came up w/ a new claim sex abuse ...she has no one to blame but herself and needs to quit talking ........ but she can't .......... she HAS to have the last word ........ the public hates ........ she wrote it //// she did not write it ..... it was about him //// it was not about him ....she pledged the money means $ is donated it ....... try that w the IRS and see how far you get ...... THIS IS NOT ABOUT FREE SPEECH .... THIS IS ABOUT TRUTH ....
@@tylermoore4429 yes she was diagnosed Bipolar before meeting JD and was diagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder plus Histrionic Personality Disorder by Dr Curry.
Can we be clear. Amber did NOT tell the truth, Johnny did not hit Amber. Also, JD was not mutually aggressive. The 20 hours of audio shows JD on the defense, never on the attack and never in a position of power.
Thanks. This is true. Dr Grande didn’t watch the court case, obviously.
Exactly! Could NOT believe he said that shit!
@@miltoncaro1703 I agree with you 100%
It got under my skin when Todd tried to say there was mutual abuse. That is Heard's talking point and nothing more.
Unfortunately I recognized AH right away and signed many petitions to Disney to try to dissuade them from taking Johnny Depp out of Pirates.
I recognized her because I grew up with a narcissistic mother. My mother is a narcissist who caused permanent hearing damage to my step father by hitting him in the side of the head with a glass ashtray in front of us children. We begged her to stop and he was screaming, and it just fueled her. This is one of the worst examples of what we had to witness.
She can walk out of the house after doing something like that as if nothing happened, lie with a straight face, and has zero remorse or feeling of responsibility. She is a "victim".
I am relieved the public is finally waking up to the damage of narcissistic behavior disorder, particularly in women. I worry for her child & her sister.
She sounded pretty gaslighty in those recordings. "I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you!" lol. Imagine if Johnny had said that. He was able to finally come to his senses and get away from her, so then she sought revenge and did what narcissists always do, go on a smear campaign.
the angle she tries with Guthrie is so dumb too..
she says that when she said "yeah, I did start a physical fight" it was her placating the volatile abuser for her safety.. problem being that her next sentence of note on the recording is "I can't promise I won't get physical again"
so she placated the abuser.. then threatened him. OK Sure girl!
Imagine if Johnny was found that he defamed her and that all the abuse allegations she said about him were true . I wonder how fast Dateline would have booked him an interview... maybe we should ask Kevin Spacey or Bill Cosby. It's disgusting to me that NBC gave this now proven physically abusive person a platform to try and gaslight the public and drag her victim through the mud some more.
"I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you."
"I donated millions of dollars to charity by pledging it."
I think we see a pattern here.
I both dislike and distrust her and feel really sorry for her. She does not appear to be a nice person, but she is obviously in a lot of psychological and emotional pain. I really hope she will find an excellent therapist for her own and her daughter's sake.
No narcissist has any emotional pain trust me! That was burried long ago! She is just throwing the superiority card as a narcissist will always do!
She won’t get help. As she doesn’t think she has a problem
She is beyond repair. Get the kids out of her way. Amber should spend time behind bars for perjury.
@@Juke582 That is absolutely not true. It's recognized by psychiatrists that narcissists can experience immense emotional pain, which is what drives some of their craziest behaviors.
@@Mousehansen Trust me, this is Amber's biggest nightmare. And she brought it on herself.
As someone with BPD, and an abuse survivor, this woman infuriates me. She is so out of touch with reality, I sincerely hope she gets therapeutic help that she needs. Total lack of insight, and to lie like that in a court of a law - shameful.
I like the new name BPD has, emotional dysregulation disorder or EDD, it is much less stigmatising, after all, we are not to blame for our trauma.
@@KristenKras 100%. Language matters
Have you gotten assistance for bpd. I have a best friend, former girlfriend who I believe exhibits the exact symptoms of bpd and as her friend I have suggested she look into dialectical behavior therapy
Have you heard of this?
@@jeffnorman3014 Yes, Ive done DBT. A longer 12 month program is better. Also individual therapy with a therapist who has experience with BPD
Johnny himself was not found to defame Amber, it was a statement made by his lawyer about one specific incident.
Yes, Adam Waldman is a pretty formidable lawyer and personally took on the job of getting to the bottom of the mechanics of Ambers hoax, the friends she involved,TMZ, her publicist and he tried to describe it just before the police bodycam footage was released so he got some details of when they spread wine/broken picture frames etc around the apartment to indicate a false incident.
the inaccuracy of it meant the jury said it was defamatory, I agree that it was factually wrong on minor details BUT I heartily disagree that its defamatory as the Jury upheld the other notion by Depp & his lawyer that it was a planned "Hoax"
you can't be defamed for hoaxing.. as a hoaxer, over minor details..
its akin to a murderer asserting defamation of character because reporters initially thought they killed their victim with a porcelain fruit bowl when actually it was a glass punch bowl - the public image is well earned by the perpetrator, the assertions are largely accurate.
speculation by the most popular YT lawyers is that a jury member may have been reticent about awarding Depp money & this count was to appease them about Depps lawyer being too aggressive by essentially 'throwing a bone' to Amber while still saying she is an aggressor and a hoax artist.
@@etherspin fairly though the jury did not get to hear about the second 911 call. I think that might have changed their minds on that count because the police had already been there, JD was already gone when the first set arrived, why would you call the cops again? They didn't get to know that though.
@@RavenaDenver Is that so? Why were they not allowed to know about the second police visit? Incredible!🇬🇧
@@alimar0604 I don't remember why the judge kept it out. It might be because they couldn't definitely say where the 911 phone call came from (first one was from IO who was out of town at the time). They got to hear about the second visit by the officers but I'm pretty sure it was under the understanding that it was a "follow up" and not that they were actually called again. Pretty sure it was Rocky that called them the second time, it sounds like her. One of those freeloaders did.
@@etherspin Yes, or that one count may have bothered the jury because it implicated people besides Amber. It also suggested that her attorney and publicist were part of the hoax which is going a bit far without clearer evidence of their participation.
Thank You Sir. I got drawn into watching the trial because I genuinely wanted to support who I thought was a fellow victim. It became clear to me very quickly that this was just another acting role for Ms. Heard and I was deeply offended by her arrogance, particularly as it pertained to assuming she could say the most obviously false things and everyone else would simply believe her because she's so smart and we're so stupid. As someone who has been struck in the face "too many times to count" I was appalled by her assertion that she could show up the next day or even the next week looking perfect because of makeup and ice. She made me feel ashamed of my injuries and inability to smile without showing pain or cover up swelling. Even though I knew she was lying, she made me feel weak and deficient. Maybe he did hit her or do something physical but what she described is not possible. She has to have completely fabricated her abuse stories for her own aggrandizement or she greatly, greatly exaggerated them. She's done a terrible disservice to her fellow human beings.
Im so sorry... my heart goes out to you. It's truly a disservice to real victims.
You are clearly nothing like AH. I pray that you find happiness in a safe relationship and that you know that so many people are there to help you and listen to your situation.
❤ I hope you are safe and healing.
What Amber did is what many masterful manipulators do, play on people's consciousness, by throwing out into the air without context to feed social stereotypes and norms. The "global innialation" text was a text to JD's sister. He sent it in 2018, after Amber put out the Op-Ed piece accusing him of dv and sexual assault. Amber's Team got their hands on so of JD's personal text and aired them in court without any context. Extremely manipulative. So glad she lost.
Truth. She has damaged the recovery of true survivors
When Amber threw the vodka bottle at Johnny and severed his finger she was crying worried about people talking. She wasn't concerned that the tip of his finger was gone. Her concerned was how people viewed her. She truly is the worse narcissist female I've ever seen.
Like Dr Kipper said in the audio. She spoke out of guilt, guilt, guilt.
She was diagnosed as having Borderline Personality Disorder at the trial by her court appointed clinical psychologist.
Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist/professor
You have to meet my mothers daughter. She is Amber heard with kids. Always playing the victim, lazy as hell, hurting others all the time . POS narcissist
@@latinaalma1947 that makes sense. There are shared characteristics with narcissistic behaviour. I would have thought perhaps vulnerable narcissism, but that makes a lot of sense. I thought her suffering seemed sincere but didn't like how she held her nose up high all the time. It seemed to contradict her claims of innocence.
She never was a wife nor did she care for him as someone would do if they loved their husbands
I watched that whole trial. Amber reminded me of my mom so much. My mom got away with her diabolical smear campaign during my parent’s nasty 90’s divorce. Everyone in my town believed my moms over acting bullshit. She wanted me to lie and say my dad molested me. He did beat the shit out of me regularly for ten years but he didn’t do any SA. I never saw my mom the same after that and I became another target for refusing. I joined the Navy to break up with my psycho mom. Ten years No Contact now.
It was awesome to see a totally phony well researched victim act NOT work this time. My mother was no victim. She is bullshit tornado that ruins everyone stupid enough to fall for her acts and traps.
My mother used to go to Al Anon meetings to learn the correct lines for the role she was playing from real victims. My mother was/is a selfish monster. I want to put up some boundaries asap upon meeting anymore people like her.
Word, Karen, I can't even imagine going through what you have. I am so sorry. There are lots of videos on "how to spot a narcissist.". Also, you might be interested in Chase Hughes' Six Minute Xray (from the Behavioral Panel UA-cam channel).
You sound like a good, strong person, Karen. God bless you.
@@rosewoodsteel6656 thanks. My mom made everything a living hell. I’ve had ten years of therapy now from the VA and I’m finally getting somewhere with recovering from the anxiety, PTSD symptoms and panic disorder. I figured out my own autism after taking a couple of cognitive behavioral therapy courses. Got a referral and got diagnosed from Stanford. I’m gonna master ALL my damn triggers dammit! Even the environment.
I’ll never take my freedom for granted. I’m really good at identifying these human bullshit tornados now. I think it’s also a spectrum and more common than reported. Or I’m a magnet for these shit people.😱
My biggest complaint currently is continuing to manage my anger when I’m triggered. I want to be able to extricate from interactions with indifference. So working on that. Having a menu of self affirmations to repeat helps. But got damn I hate liars and manipulators. I’m instantly offended when someone attempts access to my emotions especially what I call “empathy farming” when I’ve just met them. People who can’t feel empathy don’t get mine. How dare anyone try that with me. Gross.
@@karenabrams8986 💯💯💯 I can relate to parts. Also an autistic woman. 😁✌🏼
I recommend the book on anger by Thich Nhat Han who sadly passed this year. But take it with a grain of salt.
Sounds like you only have anger against your mom, and not your dad that be a t you? Truly sorry for what you went through.
Every interview she does, every word out of her mouth just shows how accurate Dr. Currie was!
Although initially it sounds like Dr Grande was refuting what Amber Heard was saying in the interview, he actually seemed determined to find some way to allow her to keep playing the role of victim. He appeared to be excusing many of the horrible things she did to Johnny Depp, by asserting she was just responding to his behavior.
While no one is saying that Johnny Depp committed no wrongs in the relationship, the overwhelming evidence indicated that Heard was the perpetrator of the abuse. Yet Dr Grande tries to claim that her aggression was really just her response to being afraid. I don't know if it's because Amber Heard is a woman or because she's attractive that keeps Dr G from admitting that she is very much an abuser. If the situation was reversed, and the evidence pointed to Johnny Depp as one committed the abuse, I don't believe Dr Grande would've allowed him all the excuses that he was using for Heard.
I totally agree. The Doc is usually much better than this. I don’t care either way about these people, but I am fascinated by law and psychology and watched the whole trail. She is definitely the abuser. JD is definitely a normally very kind person who avoids his pain by using drugs.
I can’t figure out if the Doc has a thing about addicts (he seems to think that being an addict means you have to be guilty of everything someone accused you of) or if he’s sexist (can’t believe a mere woman is capable of such destruction) or is it that he’s just what we British call ‘c*ntstruck’ by her beauty and charisma.
I would not blame him if it’s the last. It’s her trademark. I would say all of her relationships rely upon that charisma to start with. ‘Come into my parlour’ says the spider to the fly…
That’s why she had no friends in court except her poor sister. She bedazzles and enchants, then chews up and spits out, repeatedly.
The Doc is still in phase one, I think.
She's incapable of taking responsibility because she genuinely convinced herself that she's correct. Manipulative people also have a way of manipulating themselves.
This is the kind of behaviour someone exhibits when they've never had to take responsibility for their actions.
She's in so deep that she has to double-down, or admit she's a liar.
People like this always end up exposing themselves. I know from personal experience.
Went through three years of hell with an emotional leech of a partner, and they weren't very happy when they crossed my final red line in the sand and got dumped. Embarked on a campaign to isolate me from my friends and demonise me so that I wouldn't get freelance work any more. Refused to take responsibility, was totally convinced that they were the victim of emotional abuse and that I deserved it. Started leaking emails and chat logs after I asked them to stop. Didn't stop when I tried to take my own life. I was made to feel utterly worthless and for a while I genuinely believed I was an irredeemable abuser.
But then everybody slowly came crawling back over the following months to apologise for me: my ex had been lying about their financial situation to get donations, and was spending them all not on utilities or rent, but on - get this - porn and videogames. When it emerged that they had been doing this they dug the hole deeper and again played the victim, except this time it didn't work. They didn't seem to comprehend why lying like this was wrong and why people were angry. As usual it was blamed on me as if I'm some kind of master manipulator super villain. No apologies given or responsibility taken. Permanent manchild for all eternity.
I see a lot of parallels with Amber Heard. These people simply operate on another plane of reality to the rest of us. You can never understand or trust people like Amber Heard or my ex. They do not play by the rules and the worst part is that half the time they don't even realise why that's wrong, and they certainly NEVER care.
No she knows. There’s plenty of direct and indirect signs of trying to deceive others, not herself.
I don't think that's quite right. I think Heard's base assumption is that she's right and then she retroactively edits, rationalises and recontextualises her past actions to fit with that assumption.
Recordings like the "I don't punch you I hit you" tape show that she's more or less aware of what she does even in a fit of rage, she just refuses to take responsibility for her actions and opts to gaslight and victim-blame.
On some level I wager she even understands that what she did was wrong, but to admit it, even to herself, would shatter her galaxy-sized porcelain ego.
@@AliRadicali but once she could break her illusion and attempt to be brutally honest, can she mend? Maybe it's a struggle that she will have to fight for rest of her life.
I do not believe a woman or a man suffering from domestic violence so severe that they are in fear of their lives would gift their abuser with a huge knife engraved with something like till death do us part. I don't believe anyone is ever going to convince Amber Heard that she should sit down and hush and maybe this too should pass. I also believe Johnny Depp that he was the victim of the physical abuse.
I feel like in the end Amber's claims were just unbelievable like insisting on the sexual assault with a bottle that was possibly broken and doesn't immediately go to the hospital. I feel like in the end Amber Heard claims just did not make common sense.
Agreed. Even if there's any truth to her claims, there's just too many inconsistencies between her testimony of her claims, the evidence she presented for them and the actions she took at the time. Her claim about the assault with the bottle, for example, should've resulted in her sustaining horrible injuries and yet, there's no medical records or pictures of that incident, yet, she took pictures of events and injuries that seemed very minor by comparison (not to mention, there's elements to believe that evidence was fabricated). Johnny Depp may truly not be the perfect victim, but she was lying through and through, imo, I believe her to be the sole perpetrator.
Its been information overload with this whole trial but the fact they tried to make out she wasn't obligated to record her injuries and that doesn't mean they didn't happen and why would she blah blah I forget the way they framed it but it made me angry because the suggestion was women who did were the bad ones. Many women have had their actual abusers put away because they recorded the evidence it was just ridiculous to suggest she would record him sleeping him smashing cupboards every convo and scarcely one pic of any real injuries of these huge fights they had. Oh but she has notes....
@@mamacito1795 it is hilarious she actually really believes if she was allowed to present her therapist notes as evidence and show the jury it would change anything...like really all the lies she told and nobody believes anything she said but if they had just seen the "evidence" of stuff she told her therapist because obviously there was no way it was lies
@@samgoff5289 precisely...no pictures noone else to corroborate but if only they'd seen the things she had told her therapist it would've all been flipped to her advantage!!!
Her ex assistants DV was where she stole the bottle story who was assaulted in Brazil by a stranger. Her using this in court has reopened that horrific incident and has traumatized that woman all over again. She has no insight on how much she hurts those who are truly victims. She needs to go away and stay away.
And I’ve known women like her. They’re the kind that will abuse their man again and again and then when he pushes her off of him and she falls she’ll go “OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU HIT ME! HOW COULD YOU?! YOURE A VILE ABUSER!!!!!” There is no way she would’ve missed the chance to document every bit of abuse. I mean look at all the embarrassing pictures she took.
I'm dying to see her sliced up feet pictures and I'll be dead before I see him lol, and oh my God as a woman who has been brutally abused I have so much evidence thank God I didn't have to go to court, having the doctor and and hospital medical records's plus the police hauling this monster off I didn't have to even testify ~ he pled guilty,
She is a piece of work, it was so bad and she can’t produce one verified photo of her sliced up feet broken nose, ~her face would be shredded with those rings on his fingers
I'm not saying Johnny is an angel but he's not saying he is either
I'm saying take some responsibility Amber turd
Amber heard is a liar
Psychopath
Diagnosed with numerous disorders I hope she gets the help she needs, but she won't because she doesn't think she needs help🤯
So yes, I don't believe she should be taking care of anybody's child!! She's a danger to anyone that comes in her path
She has no friends, just people she uses until she's done with them
Yes! Exactly!!!
Years ago, I had a friend just like her. She's not a friend anymore. But when you live long enough, you meet all kinds. All I can say is choose your friends carefully, and run if a friend is like this woman. 😁
I’ve known people like that too.
Just another manipulating narcissistic person who always blames others for her shortcomings and brushes off donation and pledge as same thing. Congenital liar.
I feel so bad for her daughter. I had a mother like Amber and life was difficult. I predict wire hangers and a tell-all book in her daughter's future
She is starting to look like Joan Crawford, absolutely Mommy Dearest!!
The substance abuse alone, without the BPD, guarantees a damaged adult.
There are a lot of us, who feel like you.
No… more… wire… hangers!!!
@@JamesPetroff daaaammnnn! U actually nailed it! I didn't notice it until now, but ur so incredibly right!
Was in a narcissistic relationship and that is exactly how they think. They feel as though they are never wrong, they never fess up to mistakes and so on... no matter how nice and civil JD is with Amber, she will blame-shift, deflect and smear him.
My step mother is a narcissist and not one of us in the family ever got an apology. Even when proven wrong she would she would never apologize just move on
True. My daughter in law is a narcissist and she will NEVER say I'm sorry - no matter what she does. Haven't been around each other now for several years. It's just so stressful....
Exactly
💯 - when I listened to the full audio recordings long before the trial, they were so familiar to me after my own relationship, I knew then that AH was the abuser. The manipulation, the gaslighting, the inability to take responsibility or apologise etc. It was all there. And so obvious that it almost hurt to hear it. I’m sure anyone who’s endured similar experiences in relationships could sense the dynamic between JD & AH and understand just how much JD suffered at the hands of this abusive narc.
Her narcissism is the reason why AH (being so blind to her behaviour and her negative traits, and so quick to blame everyone else) will never be able to comprehend why it is we don’t support her stories, why she lost the court case, why we all see right thru her lies. She’s the absolute definition of the typical narc abuser imo.
I’m sick of everyone trying to make the argument, “they were both abusive.”
Amber’s only been caught lying everything. There’s no evidence of abuse from Johnny, just Johnny getting mad & slamming cupboards after finding out $100 million was stolen? He slammed his own furniture, that doesn’t mean he hit her.
Even after proving his innocence, ppl will try & spin he was abusive in there somewhere. See why he had to sue for defamation & had to have the court broadcasted?
They were both toxic for each other. And both had terrible coping mechanisms that not only did not help them cope but led them from bad to worse.
When driven/triggered to react, neither one abstained from habits that brought relief, but alienated the other. Johnny took it out on drugs and abused jt heavily for many years, in the privacy of only his home. And Amber took it out on Johnny.
It shouldn't be so much of trying pinpoint or spin it to the angle that he's abusive towards her. It's more like, people like them, they get ugly in their respective ways when they don't get things the way they prefer. So in relationship dynamics both did respond and interact with each other badly - running away/ avoiding discussions and then returning to love bomb each other, screaming and lashing out and things and at the other party, where other couples may have chosen to adjust and adapt, negotiated and backed off but return to discuss and agree on a way forward. But at the same time, it is not to be overlooked that on every count, Amber did cross the line.
Right, sometimes the truth is NOT somewhere in the middle!
Exactly. Amber and her lawyers said that people didn't like her because she wasn't the perfect victim, but she wasn't a victim at all and it was Johnny who was the imperfect victim. He had his issues...he was a drug addict, he got mad, cursed, slammed cabinets and drank too much wine. He said nasty things in texts, but at end of the day there was no evidence that he abused Amber Heard and plenty of evidence she abused him.
@@usermc1234 Doing drugs is certainly a self destructive coping mechanism. But I think we should be careful with implying that someone healthier would be able to handle that relationship better, or even make it work. I seriously doubt that anyone would be able to have any sort of functional relationship with AH by communicating effectively. When you are being abused, sometimes all you can do is remove yourself from the situation
Slamming and throwing things is intimidation and controlling in nature and abusive. Someone who acts violently like that has a quick trigger and enjoys causing fear in others. It IS abuse. Stop normalizing abuse.
I fail to see how the trial was unfair. The judge did her job and the jury did theirs. Amber Heard lost because she could not back up her claims, not because the trial was unfair (regardless of how many freaking llamas were lined up outside the court). I wouldn't be surprised if Depp's attorneys filed a motion to cease and desist and the judge granted him an injunction. Maybe a few nights in jail for contempt would shut her up.
Those of us who watched the trial learned that Amber Heard couldn't tell the truth if her hair was on fire.
The trial WAS unfair, just not the way SHE thought it was. She didn't deserve a cent. JD didn't do anything to her, his attorney did, and regardless of what he said, it had ZERO impact on her career.
JD on the other hand lost 2 movie roles from her lies, just ONE of which was worth $50 million.
So he got screwed because SOME on the jury wanted to be "fair" and give AH a little money and not be too mean to her even though she deserved to get hit with at least a $60 million settlement.
Oh, and then let's not forget the BS that the state doesn't allow the jurors to know there is a $350K limit on punitive damages, so they thought they were giving him another $5 million only to have that basically wiped out.
Dr. Grande did say that there was some.truth to the unfairness of the trial her supporters claim there was. His analysis confuses me because he never explains those kind of comments and it scares me because people listen to him and walk away thinking that it's true.
@@loril3458 The difficulty with an ongoing case like the Heard-Depp trial is that people like Dr Grande have done several videos. They cannot repeat everything said in every other video. You are correct in noting that he does not explain his conclusion here. I vaguely recall that he did explain his reasons for saying that he thought there was some unfairness in the trial in another video. I also know that there are some very discerning followers of Dr Grande who do not necessarily agree with all that he says. I think I have watched 90% of his videos and he generally does explain his reasons. And you are one of the more discerning videos because you have noted something of concern, and raised it quite respectfully. I watch these channels not just for the person making the video but for the interesting comments that people make, like you have done. It helps us think more carefully and aim for greater balance. So thank you!
Exactly. I watched it & im not sure what he's referencing.
Alpacas. The dressier cousins of Llamas. But still, no foul there. If the jury had all been Alpacas? Well, that may have produced a different outcome. We shall never know.
I don't think Johnny was emotionally abusive I think he was reacting. Usually you don't let someone abuse the crap out of and not say anything
Exactly I have a friend who gets hammered by his wife. He does not physically fight back but he does bellow. I don't blame him one bit. I only wish he'd leave.
I think that AH planned to use JD drug problems against him.... Even Before they were married.... That's why she took so many photos or Video's of JD looking bad.... & That's why she was the aggressor.... To try to get abuse documented... She could only handle this form of marriage ONE YEAR.... & Finally made her face look abused.... & Filed for Divorce & changed the locks & of course contacted the media.... & Made herself a part of the ME TO MOVEMENT.... It was All her Plan.... But she didn't Plan on Camera's in the Courtroom & Losing the Case to JD & having Public Option turn against her
What’s tragic is that his mother was an extremely abusive narcissist (in his interviews as a young man - he’s *very* self-conscious and interviewers think he’s just making jokes about his mother - honestly it’s painful to watch now), and Johnny like so many people who were abused as children tried to “repair” the broken parental relationship when he married - in this case he married a dark mirror of his mother in Amber, another abusive narcissist.
I can confirm this
yes when you finally get to the snapping point you can start to say mean things because I did as a defense mechanism or I was going to die from the stress it was too much. I was breaking out in sores and nearly died from infections, plus a bleeding ulcer that I called my own ambulance when my husband refused to take me cuz he was tired (from doing nothing all day).
After listening to the audio tapes and all of the evidence, I can never agree that Johnny was ever abusive to her. He loved her, and when listening to the tapes one hears here over the top verbal, psychological and emotional abuse of Johnny Depp. He was always calm and trying to talk to her in attempt to keep her escalation down. The only time he would yell and verbally abuse her is when she started to strike out at him. He would usually spout off and then retreat to a bathroom to keep them both safe. She claims that Johnny retreating to the bathroom was abusive to her. I have also heard the whole tape of the Australian incident in which Johnny's finger tip was severed off, the whole tape was not allowed as Johnny's assistant, who is heard trying to talk Amber down and how to get her back to LA and also the evidence they were finding, has passed away and of course couldn't testify to what he saw. This whole tape is a eye opener. Amber Heard, needs to go away and stay away
I agree, having experienced someone quite similar, it's the tapes of continued verbal, psychological and emotional abuse which are so familiar to me. Interestingly, the way that Amber plays out these scenarios with the police, media are also a similar pattern, Johnny was very fortunate she was not so successful with those. Again, Johnny is in the relatively rare position of being able to afford to confront her and the institutions who have supported her. There is no way an ordinary individual could do this, apart from the cost, most people would be emotional wrecks, reputations and careers destroyed. I wasn't aware of the reason for the lack of scrutiny of the severing of Johnny's finger tip.
In terms of how this plays out longer term, I think Amber's opportunities to address her lies, mental illnesses, disorders are all dwindling. From my experience, she is most likely to remain in this twlight zone. Given the extreme and hugely public nature of her behaviour, I think she will be severely affected by in the medium term, and it will be very difficult to recover. Additionally, the Media coverage, such as this interview, is feeding off her illnesses and making it worse.
I wish she had been confronted with the Australia audio recording in this interview. I don't see why it would be legally unacceptable to play it and ask her to explain. WTF?!
I agree she needs to go away & stay away! She needs to stay out of the media completely, hide her face for 10 yrs so people forget her, then maybe come back?
Shes making it worse still trashing Johnny! She must be really stupid!
She says it's a set back for abused women! I think it's a wonderful break thru for abused men!! Amber hates men, She targeted Johnny for what she could get!! Now she's broke! Oh well, she caused it!! Feel sorry for her baby!
@@lesliewestover7602 She will never give up as it is part of her Narcissistic/B personality disorder. She's incapable of giving up.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns My understanding is, it was not allowed in as evidence as Jerry Judge is no longer with us and able to testify to it. I know, it is sad but they were able to fully expose Amber without it.
She speaks like 4 different people. Her Audio recordings, during her testimony, on talk shows interviews and this dateline interview. The only thing in common is her lies though, she is very consistent with that.
Her deposition was a different persona too
@@Solange1233 And the deposition in the divorce quite different one…
And Johnny doesn't? So delusional.
@@jamiecronin967 👹👀 please choose someone else's comment. I beg you
and there is an extra one for bonus points, the hyper animated, snickers bar chomping, aggressive, insulting , smirking, laughing version of Amber in the 2016 Divorce depositions.
right after the supposed abuse she was composed and full of herself, not doing faux weeping like at this latest trial
I think Johnny was only verbally abusive to AH because she pushed him to his breaking point. She purposely tried to get him angry in the hopes of getting it on video or audio to use as evidence. I give Johnny credit for not physically abusing her.
This!!!
True! We all have breaking points. It’s only human.
Reactive abuse!
👍 Sounds like a typical narcissist.
So true. If she has BPD. They can truly push anyone to their limits.
I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are trying to be as unbiased as possible. That said, there is nothing (and I do mean nothing) to show that Depp was ever harmful or abusive towards her. She, on the other hand, has a mountain of evidence showing her abuse towards him (up to and including outright confession of physical abuse). This isn't a story of "two people hurting each other", this is a story of one abusive partner trying to ruin the life of an innocent man. She is malicious and the jury saw that, nothing more and nothing less.
Divulging your want/need to cut yourself in front of your partner is emotional & mental abuse, Period! And no, not a AH fan nor supporter!
He admitted he was jealous and he was on drugs, that's enough as a form of abuse in a relationship. Jd isnt a lamb, ah is just a monster.
@@giyavictoria3747 that’s dumb. That is not abuse.
@@giyavictoria3747 Even if i accepted that was abuse, which i don't, AH also admitted she, too, was jealous and also was on drugs, particularly heavy alcohol abuse which she even continued whilst he was trying to stay clean. Now, with that equality out of the way, let's admit who was the real user and abuser during their time together....AH.
Amber was Dr shopping and had 3 diff provigil scripts
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening when someone refuses to take ownership like this.
That comment should have been directed to the one who took issue. .🤗
One discrepancy in your analysis: both JD and AH grew up in abusive homes. JD took on the role of peacemaker, but AH took on the role of aggressor. I believe this insight is reflected in the voice recordings He wanted to leave the fight and she wanted to engage.
I can somewhat relate to that dynamic: my Mom was a domineering narcissist and my father was the peacemaker; I purposely chose to model my father’s behavior. So, like Johnny, I fell into the same dynamic in marrying, until the verbal abuse left me depressed & suicidal. After much counseling, I learned to identify a narcissist’s attitudes and behavior, and not get caught up.
Enlightening, comment ! Great observation!
I hope you are doing well and I hope the journey of surviving all that damage leads you to actually living and enjoying your existence. You deserve it.
Very good point
I hope you find someone worthy of you!
@@dawnstonerock4253 same to you
I think it was a fair trial. They excluded the most damning piece of evidence against her, which was the recording of the aftermath of her cutting off his finger, that also proved she lied under oath in both trials. She was proven to have faked so many claims and lacked one single piece of evidence that showed he did anything to her. There was only one text that possibly proved he hurt her, and that was that he kicked her on an airplane (apparently shoved her with his foot down the aisle), but even then, she embellished it and added so much to that moment that she only incriminated herself more.
You could see the anger on her face after leaving the courthouse after the verdict, which showed right then and there her true feelings and that she had learned nothing. Another thing she apparently lacks is the ability to consider consequences for her behavior or to accept consequences when she experiences them, as she continues to try to lie her way out of the consequences of her lying, pushing the public she wants so badly even further away. Maybe this is because Amber knows she always gets away with things and breaking the law due to her appearance and celebrity. She has no intention to pay any fines. All her money is going towards her PR blitz of the same lies.
What she really needs is to go to jail for repeated perjury before she files an appeal and wastes more tax payer resources. But maybe bad attention is better than no attention for Amber. Maybe the worst thing that can happen to her is that everyone just ignore her and forget she ever existed, forcing her to live like most of us, in relative obscurity.
I really don't understand your views on this case. Are we always to assume that if you are in an abusive relationship that both parties are terrible to each other? This seems to be your argument throughout this case. They had their case in court and the jury found no evidence that Johnny Depp hit or mistreated Amber Heard. Johnny Depp was only found guilty of his lawyer saying something that was untrue. It would be much more interesting to use this as a case study to show to what length a narcissist would go to protect their image of themselves. Also to use it as a lessons learned never to get in to a relationship with a narcissist.
Excellent points
According to research, if you stay with an abuser long enough you will develop abusive traits. It becomes a race to the bottom for the both of you. Sometimes it's hard to determine who the main culprit is. I think Dr. Grande was attempting to give her the benefit of the doubt in part but overall he isn't convinced by her story.
Dr. Grande makes a few UA-cam videos every day, so I don't think he was able to make a fair assessment of the trial compared to someone who watched weeks of it like I chose to. It was a long drawn out display of evidence against Amber and when she was able to present her case it was weeks more of evidence, but as you say none of which proved Johnny ever laid a hand on her. You're totally correct that Dr. Grande is not accurate in his analysis, in my opinion due to him only skimming the evidence that the mainstream media presented to the public. This wasn't the type of case that can be understood by simply giving a cursory review of the evidence.
@@seanpellegrino2989 then maybe Dr.Grande shouldn't be making videos without first watching the trial and getting properly informed instead of making assumptions.
I have a similar view - just mostly because if you hear audio and see video you can see Johnny isn't behaving well. She was the aggressor and they were both terrible to one another. I mean I think you can say those things separately or together. It doesn't change the outcome of the trial, doesn't mean he hit her.
The way she’s still going, it wouldn’t surprise me if Johnny Depp sues her again as she continues to defame him. Thank you for the video Dr. Grande, I always enjoy the content you do. Take care!
The court should actually step in and order her to stop defameing him. She literally just got punished for it and goes right back to doing the same thing as soon as she can
I don't think he's vindictive, but maybe he could hit her( no pun intended) with a SLAPP suit like it happened to John Oliver when he did a musical skit dressed as a giant squirrel shitting on Bob Murray a coal CEO exec and the industry as a whole.
@@samgoff5289 That's just it. It would be tricky for a court to pull that off. I wonder if JD could get a gag order placed on her, then she would be in contempt of court if she keeps running her mouth. At the moment, she has the right to dig her hole as deep as she wants and then face more consequences.
@@samgoff5289 exactly what I wanted to say
I think her game is, get hundreds of thousands from NBC while her PR team attacks Depp both for his lawyers going on TV and him NOT going on TV.
pray/hope/wish that JD will do a response interview, go to the next network to respond to Depps response interview, make a million bucks, rinse, repeat, end up with more than what she owes him and lure him into saying things where she can respond and claim she is not defaming him but simply answering him.
Dr. Grande- From reading into what you've said on this case, it seems like you believe that AH and JD are both responsible. I watched a lot of the case, not because I give a rat's ass about either actor - rather I was interested in how the dynamics of abuse would play out. Many who have experienced IPV, like me, took special interest in the case because of these features. I've seen a few other mental health clinicians on YT try to do a deep dive on this (with very few providing even satisfactory analysis), and it seems an overwhelming majority of legal and mental health practitioners have come out to say that AH was the instigator of the abuse. Personally, I feel strongly, based on what I've seen of the case, I believe AH IS the abuser. I found Dr. Curry very credible and her diagnoses to be spot on. I would love to hear YOUR thoughts on this as a clinician and a deep dive into how you read both parties and see their respective responsibility in this dispute.
I think that it was AH plan to use JD drug problems to set him up & claim Abuse.... Even Before they were married.... Which is why AH took so many photos & video's of JD looking or sounding bad... & Which is why she was the aggressor... She planned to have plenty of documentation.... She could only continue with that way of living for ONE YEAR & finally faked the Abuse & filed for Divorce & changed the Locks & notified the media.... & Became part of the Me To Movement... She was winning & JD was losing... Until - Camera's were in the Courtroom & he had Great Lawyer's & JD Won & Public Opinion turned against her...
That wasn't her Plan...
@@bypinkerton892 that would indeed be very calculating! But it's an interesting thought.
She has a financial incentive against publicly admitting to any wrongdoing.
Underrated comment
Also if she admits wrong doing/not being abused she will face perjury charges in 2 countries
@@christiankim6321 how do you know it's under rated? It's only been posted an hour
@@robjj5373 I can see into the future
she very likely has, but she also has a financial disincentive. She is republishing the same defamatory statements that got her sued in the first place. I wonder that there has been no cease and desist order, or possibly they are waiting for her to dig herself deeper.
There's a new recording out this week, that wasn't played in court. You can hear Johnny basically begging Amber not to go to court because it will ruin her career and he will protect her but she says she has so much evidence she is hell-bent on going to court it's a pretty sad conversation.
(Well it's a new recording to me I've never heard it before)
It's not new. It's been out for a couple years. And the global humiliation text sounds more like he's telling his sister that Amber will humiliate herself and not that He's going to humiliate her.
@@BabyKangaroo279That is what happened. He didn't humiliate her and she did by herself.
@@BabyKangaroo279 yes.
he tried from May 2016 to June 2018 to get her to desist with the lies and the escalation of them and meanwhile she was trying to convince him to literally rekindle their romance *despite* her unwillingness to recant her statements because of fear of losing her 'credibility'
He said over and over he wanted to avoid court, that he doesn't enjoy it, she will hate it but that he will be driven to it if his kids keep getting bullied over this, he continues to lose work and he continues to have his name sullied.
Depp very simply meant that if she didn't accept his two years of being willing to leave it alone as long as she would *stop* then her trying to defend against his own account of her would spell global humiliation because she is two things, a mediocre actor (her acting coach said this, Warner Bros said this) and she is an abuser whose bile is on several hours of audio recordings with double digits of witnesses and one past arrest for assault of her previous married spouse in public.
Just more intimidation.
Watching even just the smallest segments of that interview, I found myself saying out loud; "Keep digging, Amber. You'll find the bottom eventually." Equally, you wouldn't struggle to find others yelling their support for her, and her claims that she was given a rotten deal at trial. It just shows how polarising the situation was. Would be interesting to hear your take on why such polarisation happens, and why people seem to dig their heels in further no matter what they hear. Is it cognitive dissonance, or something else?
Always love to hear your break down of the psychology behind this type of event, and the personality traits that could be behind their behaviour.
It's important to distinguish the verdict on Depp's case against Heard, which was that the jury found Heard guilty of defamation with *malice*.
"She is still trying to play the video game, even after the computer has been unplugged." Well said!
Great video, Dr. Grande!
Why when a man is abused and extorted people feel very comfortable saying both people treated each other badly. When a woman is abused no one will claim both the man and women treated each other badly. Harvey Weinstein, Charlie Rose, less moonves (and the list goes on) never saw this kind of “fairness”. The evidence clearly shows her as being physically, emotionally and mentally abusive toward JD. On top of that he was extorted by her…listen to audio recordings and letter from her lawyer to pay up or risk the humiliation of amber taking her “abuse” public. I’m sick of “there r two sides to the story’ when men are abused and it’s black and white when women get abused.
I think the most important aspect of the jury verdict was that she was found guilty of defamation on ALL counts. He (or really, rather his lawyer) lost on one component of the statement about trashing her apartment. It was an overwhelming victory for JD and loss for AH.
Yes, I also noticed this not mentioned in this video. Huge difference.
She was found "liable". Not "guilty". It was a civil case, and guilt is only established in the criminal courts.
It's probably worth noting that unless criminal charges are brought for assault, or perjury, or whatever, and a conviction secured against her, that it is not a legal fact that Heard is either an abuser, or a liar. This is because the standard of proof in civil courts is lower.
Just sayin'.
Truly if the jurys were told about the 2nd call to the police that night AH would have not won that either. So just saying 😏
@@Twentee8 because this guys been a Turd ball washer from the start. He’s been biased towards Turd from the beginning.
@@Radagast- Depp did not have the opportunity to prove Ms Heard to be a liar in a criminal court because she wanted to have defamatory, life-destroying impact of the heinous accusations towards her victim without the scrutiny of a police investigation which would have revealed her lies and made herself criminally liable for making false police reports (see Juicy Smollet).
She takes doubling down to an entirely new level. I hope she gets sued for defamation all over again for these interviews.
I totally agree with you ! She is vile ! ❤️London u.k
But nobody believes her now so there wouldn't be any new damages. Now if she tries to appeal her words can be used against her. 😂
No need. She wants to continue this vicious cycle. And she won't leave him alone. All we can do is actually ignore her..
I think book deal is next
@@victoriawilliams2786 Assuming she isn't still trying to sabotage him outside of the publics eye. I don't think she is just going to leave it alone.
One of the most chilling paradoxes of this case is AH insisting "I have never called myself a victim" while at the same time she has been constantly wrapping herself in the flag of victimhood. But, while she may have successfully provoked JD info reacting (and to that extent she may be correct that he is surrounded by a phalanx of highly paid erasers / enablers), it was clear that she was a practiced instigator, her DVRO was tactical not protective (leaked to TMZ to humiliate Depp) & the ACLU op ed was also tactical, based at least in part on prior fakery, & timed to humiliate Depp while she rose. I think she enjoyed fights because, first, she got the testosterone hit from being aggressive and, later, she got the dopamine hit from self pity being a victim.
She was trying to say that Johnny could convince anyone to believe him , he even convinced the world he had scissors for hands , it’s the most insane thing I’ve ever heard and just goes to show she is absolutely a massive lunatic
I blame the new PR guy. He's delusional himself.
It also makes no sense. Nobody was convinced 😂. It’s a movie. He’s a good actor but we all know it’s a movie. We’re not 2 year olds ffs
Its hilarious because saying he convinced the world he was a pirate would make more sense because it's within the realm of possibility (but still not true) and much more recent to his career lol
Literally couldn't have picked a worse movie to make her point
I think the scissorhands comment was some "clever" thing she came up with and couldn't wait to use. It was a great distraction technique, so non-sensical that everyone got hung up on her comment and forgot the question.
@@BuzzyStreet Yes, true, she totally evaded having to address what Camille Vasquez said and shaded Camille too.
I think one of the reasons she lies is that she has contempt for everyone. Also, she is addicted to lying about her reality. She believes what she wants and will never see anything differently. Her faking injuries is worrying. If she does it to get attention, I would not put it past her to make her daughter sick (munchausen by proxy). I pray her daughter is being watched and protected.
Correct iv gone through this for 22 years now , she had my daughter dianosed Autistic for the financial gain , when really she actually allowed my daughter to be sexualy abused by her 2 brothers, im tryiing my hardest tl get her out the house with me (dad) my daughter is 18 now , and when she was 5 had severe beating of her mum , for telling me the truth , because she told me the truth , she had even worst beating for telling me . So she will never say anything again out or fear . She is terrified of her , but outside people think you would never get a better mother . 22 years of lies after lies , my ex is 50 very attractive . Coveted herself in bruises , accusing me, last time she used a hammer on her own arms & legs , horrendous big black bruises percectly round on arms & legs , but she is so convincing everyone beleives her exept her own family , as they know her , . Money money money lies lies lies ?
That's the problem with the current idea of "my truth" versus *the* truth. "My truth" implies if you believe your own bullshit it's as good as true.
Exactly. I fear for that baby girl.
Excellent point. It’s like Mommie Dearest. I think people who are narcissistic have an underlying rage and anger temperament and it doesn’t take much to unleash the beast of aggression.
Amber was lynched by social media. It had to have influenced the Jurors. There's an old rule : " Men side with each other. Women backstab each other". And boy did it apply here !!! What was Amber thinking anyway ??? You don't go after a Hollywood Icon. As for Johnny Depp he came across as greedy, vindictive and petty. The Guy has a $200 millions net worth and he's going after a girl with a 12 million net worth. Jeez how low can you stoop ??? His ego was hurt ??? Really ??? Materialistic, merciless, narcissitic...Jimmy is miles away from his acting persona. This trial did way more to damage his reputation than Amber's accusations. Amber, touching and naive, is like that Spanish Character, Don Quixote, underestimating his opponents and engaging in fights way above her strength.
As a victim of narcistic abuse, it's hard for me to believe that Johnny is the driving force behind the agression of Amber. In my experience blames the narcistist his/her 'victim' of exactly that which the narcistist is doing to the victim (accusing and blaming Johnny for being violent towards her, means she was violent towards him, turning tables... Whenever they say "i never... " That's exactly what they're doing ("i could never Hurt Johnny") When she acuses him of doing drugs and him scaring her with his behaviour, it was the other way around.
Excellent analysis! I didn’t watch the interview personally. I wouldn’t have been able to stomach it. It’s so sad to see her continue to attack his character.
You hit the nail on the head at the end. And I'm pretty sure her narcissism can be traced back to childhood, where most people learn those kinds of defenses. I've ran into some exact duplicates of Amber Heard. I just wish we could get them some help and also watch parents more closely, so we could stop this cycle of narcissism.
I've often wondered whether the tendency toward narcissism is genetic or environmental, but I've always guessed genetic. If so, Amber may never change and will for her life but a narcissistic individual who can never take responsibility for her behavior.
Yep amber's narcissism definitely can be traced back to her childhood
I was kinda thinking this morning, "I wonder how Amber's father/family are affected by Amber's behavior?" I hope people in real life are not giving the family an undeserved hard time
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@@Vernal_DuToit I believe her drug addicted family helped her plan the taking down of Johnny Depp long before she met him! Drug addicts are opportunists and with her parents apologizing for Amber behind her back speaks volumes
Yes. Great points. Unfortunately, Children are not born with an Instruction Manual on Proper Care. Not only does the Child suffer incredibly, but also society writ large ... and most acutely those who get close, intentionally or not.
Great Note!
With all due respect to dr. Grande, but I think he shouldn't claim that the verdict was "unfair" unless he saw the court case, I did and I think that the judgment was more than fair, actually to the fault as I don't believe that Johnny's attorney, was malicious in his statement, as he just stated of what HE believes happened, Amber destroyed her case herself with her constant lies and inability to take responsibly for ANYTHING, it wasn't jurors/ judge being "unfair" it was her inability to keep her story straight, the fakeness of her invisible tears and straight-up hatred she showed towards Camile Vasquez, not to mention credible witnesses on Johnny's side when her only witness was her sister, who's testimony should be taken with a Mount Everest big grain of salt because of her association with Amber, not to mention she seems to be equally as vile, disgusting and willing to lie when it suits her human being as Heard.
Wait, how do you know Depp was mutually horrible to Heard? All the evidence of his past relationships indicates the exact opposite. It's highly unusual for anyone to remain on good terms with an ex, but Depp has done so time after time after time -- his exes all continue to like and respect him -- and it's highly unlikely that a 58 year old would suddenly and drastically change a lifetime of habitual behaviors on a dime like he'd have to have done in order for us to believe he just suddenly wigged out with Heard, and Heard alone.
JD didn't heed the Hot/Crazy Matrix
This is an extremely biased and superficial opinion by someone - dr grande, who has not watched or listened to any of the evidence. Imo
@@Zelda_Kitty No, what you're describing are called "arguments". If that makes him a violent person then everyone on the planet is a violent person.
We know this because his exes continue to like and respect him, even to the point of making public statements of support for him and in the case of Kate Moss even testifying on his behalf. He undoubtedly had arguments with all of them because it's normal. That doesn't make him a violent person and it's obvious by their continued fond and supportive behavior toward him.
@@csmats5374 I agree with you! Argument doesn't mean a person violent, we all say nasty words here and there when we were angry, doesn't mean we are voilent. if that is then no one on the earth is not violent.
Toxic relationship, both acted like lunatics, he drinks and smokes like no one I ever seen. Not sure he punched her in the face, but he did abused her, and there is no such a thing I abused myself by drinking and using drugs. Asked anyone who had alcoholism in their family, fathers, mothers, is a nightmare. I do believe he passed out after a night of work, drugs and alcohol. I do believe he lied the same way she did. Both exaggerated their stories, both needed a lots of help, something I am sure he is used to. I sympathize by both being addicted to anything, including themselves.
It is dangerous to call it “mutual abuse”. It is not a crime to argue with your spouse and say mean things. We all are capable of behaving in such a way. But to the extent of beating your husband, cutting his finger and extorting money, that is irreparable damage done. She needs help and won’t accept accountability. Her issue is with herself and she’s continuing to abuse him even further in the media.
You are right!
This eternal relativizing is unbearable.
Mutual abuse is a term is couple‘s therapy and is in fact one of the most common types of domestic abuse there is. I think one must be careful not to use the term to minimize the abuse suffered by one party, but in this case I think they were mutually abusive towards each other. That does not mean that Amber Heard did not defame Johnny Depp; she lied about SA, and instances of physical assault.
Johnny Depp was emotionally abusive to Amber Heard- he called her names and insulted her. It is literally on tape and he admitted to some pretty ugly text messages (to friends about Heard) in court. His admittance of these things was key to his case. Amber Heard was physically, physiologically, and emotionally abusive to Johnny Depp-again she admits to hitting him on on an audio tape, whilst gaslighting him by minimizing the harm she did to him. They were mutually abusive, even if the harm was not equal.
@@hdubbs9174 If someone yells at you and kicks you in the butt, and you then scold, then you shouldn't put things into perspective and say, well, they scolded each other.
@@ScaramouchedaVinci My comment explicitly says that "mutual abuse" is not an excuse to minimize abuse someone has suffered.
Also, scolding and verbal abuse aren't the same things.
If there's a genuine quid pro quo in a verbal conflict, then I agree... However, I have met many people who will store real and imagined wrongs and disinter them for the purpose of winning arguments by scatter gun. The idea that nothing is forgiven, and all "wrongs" are likely future weapons, makes life with such people utterly miserable.
It makes no difference what topic you speak of, your delivery of humor makes me watch every video. You and your family are blessed to have each other. You guys are a perfect fit.
I did hear her audios (didnt hear his witnesses) and she did make me believe she is evil, despicable, aggressive, mean and manipulative. The reason why ppl took his side is not because his witnesses, is because her audios
This! I believed her. Felt awful. Was mad at him bc I liked him as an actor and didn’t think he was a bad human. But totally believed her. As soon as I heard the audio with her berating him I knew. He’s all demure, she’s cruel. Abuse victims wouldn’t dare talk like that to their abuser. And the abuser wouldn’t try to get away from the victim to hide. She did this to herself.
Amber was found to have been wronged by Johnny's former Attorney. That's what the award was for.
When you don't mention that it wasn't Johnny,
people think that he is somehow guilty of the abuse
that he was EXONERATED of.
EXACTLY! This "doctor" is trying to manipulate like Amber or the media. He knows exactly what he is doing and "trying" to do.
True
Because the trial was for defamation.
Both the case in the UK and in the US were NOT criminal cases, they were defamation; because of Amber's allegation about being SA and DV people focused on that element. No one within the judicial system both in the UK and the US have declared either of them guilty of abuse. In the UK Amber was not the defendant, their only job was to prove that the evidence they based their article on was believable; all they needed was sources that were in their opinion credible enough for The Sun (tabloid) not if Amber Heard herself was credible enough that would have to be separate. So the UK ruing basically says that The Sun had a legit reason for publishing their tabloid headline about him being abusive because the Washington Post article which we now know was aided by the attorneys from the ACLU...which I guess to the British judge saw it as sufficient. Personally, I find the ties the judge had with people connected to Amber very suspicious...Now, what makes the US defamation case MORE thorough is because Amber is the defendant. The burden to show she is telling the truth falls on her more than Depp since she is the defendant. Therefore the evidence submitted in the US is 10x more substantial (a lot) than in the UK trial. What makes this US case against Heard so vital and more important than the UK is that a jury found that not only is Amber's evidence insufficient and her story not as credible but that she did it out of malice.
Without a doubt! By not mentioning that it was something the ex attorney said people who didn't follow the case might think it was something Depp did or say. Not clarified at all that it was the attorney.
One situation in this really bothers me, “ Being the PERFECT victim”?? That’s horrible. Many victims are grateful to be survivors and work through, she triggered me, a lot, I know I was NOT standing alone on this. It’s so much to work through a lot, she literally lied.
"She's still trying to play the video game after the computer has been unplugged." Excellent analogy Dr. Grande! Ha!
I've heard every recording of their fights made public and I heard no real "abuse" from Depp aside from some reactive name calling whilst being hammered by her. He was obviously going through other issues and threw an unbecoming tandrum or two, and the juvenile back and forth was definitely not putting his best foot forward, but that was about 5% of what I heard. Never once did she mention anything about him hitting her. She tried once but failed. They were discussing one of the many times she was flailing on him, this time on a plane. She said "You were doing it too." and he promptly corrected her with "What??? I pushed you.", then she got real quiet... for about two seconds.
There are no words in the English language horrible enough to describe AH. She deserves whatever she gets.
@@tamarevans9025 I agree. Karma is a bitch, what you put out into the world will come back 💯
This is completely false. Johnny was completely abusive to amber heard in his drunk recordings. Forcing her to watch him cut himself, throwing things and banging things and some how blaming her for him wanting to do that. That is abuse. It was so triggering to me. Anyone that doesn't think both of them were abusive to each other is normalizing abuse and it's not ok.
The issue is that intimidating behavior such as slamming cabinets or verbal abuse isn’t what Amber was alleging in the op-ed. She was accusing Johnny of pummeling her multiple times in the face and sexually assaulting her with a broken bottle. There was no evidence whatsoever to back up these latter claims.
@@tbhat10 apparently there was a notebook filled of notes from her therapist documenting Johnny's abuse that wasn't admissible to court. Did she make up all those avusive incidents in therapy over a period of extended time as well?
JD never spoke on physical abuse on him by Amber until court. There are photos of him in public with black eyes, cigarette burns and bruises on his face not to mention the injury to his finger. It could have been a quiet, amicable divorce but she chose to make it public
It is clear that Amber was the sole instigator and abuser. Being a Histrionic, she thrives on creating drama, chaos and conflict. Her BPD shows itself through explosive, unprovoked anger and violence that comes out of nowhere. The evidence showed this. There was no escape for Johnny until he actually left her, but this fired up her vindictiveness and need for vengeance.
And sadly, still no escape. She won’t stfu. I’m not even him and I feel harassed. My god imagine how he must feel?
I havn't been following this really, but hasn't Johnny been proven guilty to violence/abuse (against Amber) in a english court?
I still think Amber is lying through the whole trial, and rightfully lost, but sometimes it's like this trial was about who abused who, not if she wrote things she shouldn't. This seems to have been a really toxic relationship - from both sides.
I'm not sure what my point is 😊 I guess I feel like the discussion post trial is about black and white, leaving no room for the greys in this case.
Where did you avoid PsychoDyanmic training, ''Kid''?
@Karicat Watts. Spot on. Johnny was pushed to breaking point, like most victims of narcissistic abuse. He was never an instigator or an abuser - at most a reactor, e.g. the cupboards video. The evidence in VA was overwhelming and, in the UK case, the judge basically dismissed the recordings and the police evidence, and found in favour of the Sun based solely on Amber's evidence. UK judge found that she was credible as she had paid 7 MIL to charity and was not a gold digger. The UK judgment was a miscarriage of justice, and 6 weeks of detailed scrutiny and cross-examination in VA debunked all the flaws of that wrongful decision. Thankfully, the VA trial was televised, so the whole world can see the truth.
@@MrsBumbulina Valid points. Definitely worth consideration. However, I don't know much about the English case, so I'll suspend judgement on that head.
‘Having faith that Amber Heard is a good actress is like believing that Edward Scissor Hands will win a balloon inflating contest.’ 🎈✂️ That was funny Dr. Grande! 😂
I hadn't tuned into this channel for a few weeks. The dry humor is such a comfort.
BTW Dr. Grande, I don’t know if you’re familiar with a 2 hour audio argument of Amber yelling, “you’re beating me up against the wall,” and Johnny says, “Amber, I’m not touching you.” She says, “I know, but when you leave during an argument….” It may not be exactly what was stated, but that’s the general gist. She considers abandonment (him walking away or leaving during an argument) as physical abuse, and she feels it physically. Whether that was a ploy or real is undetermined.
JD and AH were not "just as awful" to each other. AH picked and picked and picked on him and would hit him if he didn't respond. Then he would either leave the room or go elsewhere out of the house. She would yell at him and insult him for trying to get away from her abuse and call him names and try to get a rise out of him. How is that being "just as awful or terrible" equally to each other?
I have to disagree with you on the fact about Amber being a victim in any way shape or form, you obviously still can’t acknowledge the fact that women can be the abusers in the relationship. I’m no Depp movie fanatic but I’ve been around her kind and they will literally make you think you’re losing your mind and make you say things you might not otherwise say. I’m sorry but with the amount of abuse she said she endured, she would have wound up in the hospital at some point, because some of that she talks about, there is no “toughing” it out and going out in public, that is the biggest bunch of crap I’ve heard of. It’s about time that it gets brought out what a narcissistic abusive woman can do to a man.
It's called gaslighting.
I agree. Especially about the "bottle incident" placed...she would have suffered terrible tearing from such. Nobody seemed to go there. Then the cigarette incident on JD face was not dwelt on
The good Dr's problem is he probably has a good wife. ... Lol what I mean by that, is, he maybe can't imagine a *woman* behaving the way Amber does, with no previous provocation.
Dr. Grande, is there some specific data point that makes you believe Heard was NOT the initiator of abuse/The Abuser in the relationship (vs mutual abuse or Heard as purely reactive)? This case is such an important opportunity for male victims of female perpetrator violence to finally be recognized, and I cringe at how they must feel when it seems no amount of evidence is enough to be believed. 1) Depp has no prior history of IPV, was emotionally and physically abused by his mother growing up (possible lowered defenses against another female perpetrator), and appears hardwired to appease and retreat in the audio of his interactions with Heard. 2) In contrast, Heard has a significant prior history of IPV (see below), was abused as a child but emphatically REJECTS identifying as a victim (some abuse victims identify with/emulate their abuser), and seems to dominate, demean, and physically aggress in the same way abusers do.
Heard's IPV history is extensive. She:
- admitted in audio to hitting Depp and deflected responsibility, minimized the abuse, [EDIT: refused to commit to not doing it again,] and called him a "baby" for complaining about it (classic Abuser playbook)
- [EDITED:] spent a night in jail for physical aggression against her former partner in public in an airport in front of witnesses (volatile, poor self control, baseline belief that physical aggression is okay?)
- [EDITED:] participated in a mutual physical altercation with her friend Raquel after expressing anger at Raquel for overlooking some housewares they'd been searching for (per Raquel, she pushed Heard, then Heard hit her in the cheek),
- allegedly hit her sister Whitney multiple times per the sworn declaration of Whitney's friend Jennifer Howell (with further corroboration via the reality TV show clip).
It just makes me wonder what will ever be enough to clear Depp's name, and by extension, when will all the male victims of female abuse who are currently trapped in silence finally be able to get the belief and support they deserve.
Well said. It is maddening what abusers like AH get away with. She is dangerous for all victims of abuse - whatever their gender, because by being believed or supported she sends a message that as long as you are successful in manipulating the truth and exploiting anyone or anything for your own agenda with no consideration for others, your own abuse will be ignored, while those whom you falsely accused will be punished.
Great point! 👋👋👋👋
-Would love to hear Dr. Grande's comments on this. Great points!
I just realized I know Jennifer! I literally graduated with two of her cousins and met her on several occasions at events and parties. I don’t know her well but do know she wouldn’t insert herself into this situation unless she had no choice. Heard tried using Jennifer’s charity in false court declarations showing she was a ‘humanitarian.’ Such a small world.
I heard Dr Grande’s analysis after the verdict.
That analysis indicated very strongly to me that he had not followed very much of the trial or done that much research.
So I think contrarily to in other cases Dr Grande is not enough informed about this case
Best line of entire video: “The narcissistic shield can reach a point where it is so impenetrable, even a man with hands made of scissors could not break it.” 🔥 😮 ☠️
Absolutely. A brilliant finish.
I'd like to share with all of us who have been following the case the following curiosities :
- Amber Heard tale about babies in microwaves was also discussed in Season 1 of True Detective.
- Amber's bottle grape story was curiously enough used in the movie Gone Girl, which I suspect quite heavily inspired our pathological narcissistic liar..
- She used the "A few good men" quote about the truth on the stand..
She seems to takr a lot of her ideas from popular movies and tv shows.. As an actress it's highly probable she's an avid film enthusiast..
If you've seen other steals from shows in the trial, please share them, Im sure there are more..
Sherri Papini lied about her kidnapping and was inspired by Gone Girl and a real attack that happened when she was younger to someone in her year in school I believe. She’s believed to have the same personality disorders.
She was the perpetrator...
NEVER the victim.When you defended her...that she might be right in some aspects...it really made me sick.Sorry doc, but I m used to telling the truth, nothing less than that.Still, I appreciate all your work, it does give us some very strong insights.
I agree, she wasn’t the victim.
Your analysis of Amber Heard sounds spot on. She does not represent me nor is she my voice. She’s never going to admit responsibility so it’s better she just disappears into the background and takes this time to be with her daughter. One can only hope she finds a therapist and gets the treatment she needs. Great video. Thank you Dr Grande.
I would love to hear some insight on how she responded angrily and adamantly during her cross examination specifically when referred to as a "victim." It was the most anger she actually showed, but it was that "I have never, NEVER wanted to be seen as a victim, nor have I ever called myself one." It was during the exchange about the donations / pledge back and forth. Since links usually get auto deleted, go to the Law&Crime Day 16 part four cross examination at 1:45:00 for reference.
Even during this interview, she says things like "I'm not a perfect victim, I'm not a good victim" but she still never actually says she's a victim.... at all. She doesn't say "I'm an imperfect victim" she just says that she's not a perfect victim.
I wouldn't pay it any mind normally, but seeing how she reacted so strongly to the word "victim" that it stands out.
Amber needs the attention. Of course, good attention would be best but bad attention is better than nothing. I worked with someone like her who made up a story about me. Every time she repeated the story, it was like the fish that got away…it kept getting bigger and bigger. Luckily, I had 30 years without causing a problem and she had numerous incidents and ended up being fired. It was a horrible time in my life but I learned a lot about BPD and Histrionic disorder. More than I cared to know😳.
Yes. Sorry you had to endure that but it does make us all wiser at least. I think also she is stuck on her pathology. How they think they can’t ever “lose” even when they’ve already lost. She cannot accept defeat.
I'm so sorry ! I'm just glad your reputation was solid and her reputation preceeded her 😌
Yes!!! I had a partner like this, also. She also “borrowed” my identity and experience, when she thought it made her more interesting. She didn’t only do this to me…she was pretending to be Jewish before we met, and I’m sure that’s not the first identity she appropriated. What’s sad is she also had an interesting life, and talents, but she had a weak identity, and didn’t know who she was. I hope she has been able to get some help, and knows herself better now, but she had really cold parents and her behavior is probably deeply ingrained.
No, you don’t know anything about BPD. I’m sorry that happened to you, but amber does not represent people with BPD. I have BPD and I am nothing like amber, she disgusts me. She’s a narcissistic sociopath with BPD. That’s very different
@@gutenbird I actually think it’s both
No, she was the aggressor. She admitted it on recordings. Johnny was the victim, period. He was verbally abusive yes , after the exasperation he suffered! That’s why it’s pointless to stay or engage with these abusers. She was the victim of $500 bottles of wine , friends and family living for free at his penthouses and paid vacations and trips by Johnny. She’s not afraid she will be sued again. She is continuing to defame Johnny and it has to stop!
The only way it will stop is by media outlets not enabling her in shows. TV channels didn't get their way and want to milk it, and AH is smart to use them.
Dr. Grande, I love your dry wit. I bet your outakes are hilarious. How do you stay so stoic when you are delivering zingers? It is fantastic! One has to listen to your videos intently to notice your injection of light humor.
Could someone explain to me what was "unfair" about this trial? From what I saw, the judge did an excellent job of allowing and disallowing evidence based on the scope of the trial. But Dr. Grande seems to think Amber may well have not gotten a "fair" trial (as well as thinking Johnny was equally at fault for treating Amber as badly as she treated him, though I honestly did not see any evidence of that at all).
She was heard in court before a jury of her peers, many DV victims don't make it to court to state their case
I didn't take his analysis that way. As he said, her evidence did not back up her claims.
I thought he went pretty easy on her.
I know right! I'm surprised that Dr. Grande would reference this as an equally bad situation. We all know darn well that if Heard was brutally raped and then physically tortured almost daily by Depp (as she claims), she and her "loyal" sister and cohorts would have taken PLENTY of pictures. Yet, Heard's most documented "damage" was a photo of a faint red mark on her face and a faint dark mark on her arm. Absolutely NO sane DV victim would taunt and laugh in their abuser's face. Seriously? Dr. Grande seemed to curiously miss the mark on some key points in this case.
I don’t see it either. Yes they were emotionally abusive towards each other. But that is not what this case was about. It was about her defaming him by saying he physically abused her (which there was very little or no evidence of) which caused damage to his career. The jury decided based on the evidence, that was correct.
@@goldilocks3593 They weren't emotionally abusive to each other. There wasn't any evidence of that, either. Please stop repeating this lie, it's low key victim blaming and disgusting.
Heard was really trying to "win" in social media. She is addicted to building her image as a domestic violence goddess. it didn't work for her, but she will keep trying. Pathetic.
Hi Dr. Grande! Thanks for all your hard work and the consistency of great content! You are appreciated!
This dude is wrong about many things...
@@ElFantasma13 we can't take you seriously farting bean
Honestly, Dr Grande's take on this is a little confusing. The reason she lost, was not simply because of her bad strategy, her poor acting, her narcissistic delusions, her lack of public support, her bad team! It was because the "mountain" of evidence she offered was GAS LIGHTING the jury, the judge, the public , the true victims and even her blind supporters- nothing she offered proved what she intended! Quite the opposite! Her poor lawyers struggled to pull out tricks out of their hats! And she is continuing to gas light all of us with this interview! I honestly would like to hear the points that her supporters make in her defense, that you Dr Grande found "good"! Just because Johnny is "richer", more famous, a better actor and a man, does not mean he does not deserve justice and clearing of his name!
Worst ratings. “ I still love Johnny, who sexually assaulted me” she thinks we r stupid. I find her very infuriating, ugh. Thank you Dr. Grande
I have been through AB and I do not want to be around that person, I don't want to communicate with them unless absolutely necessary. A real victim will want to be as far as possible.
I love your even handed approach to this case… the thing that creates so much upset in so many people is that she cannot let go even though as you say she is just digging her own hole of lies even deeper… is this NPD/ BPD/ HPD or Bipolar? Will we ever know? Is it even our right as the audience to crawl around in a clearly damaged persons psyche? She has argued that social media caused her to lose but I do zero on social media I hate it’s intrusive nature, I got drawn in to watch this because I wanted the wronged woman to win. However she came across in such a discombobulated bizarre fashion combined with her constant taping & photographs of poor Depp & her crazy audio tapes which actually only served to show how malignant and distorted she herself was! So I was forced to change my opinions. I hope she gets the help she needs as she is clearly very mentally unwell.
she is gaslighting planet Earth.
Social Media was not fodder for the trial, the Trial was fodder for social media!
Social media is the *reaction* to her lack of credibility in court and has zero to do with what the court decides.
I agree! I was really shocked and sad when I first heard of her accusations. I don't use a lot of social media either and it's strange she keeps bringing it up. The trial was in a court of law, not online. I am happy for JD and I hope he can stay away from this dangerous woman. I feel bad for actual victims because she alone has caused a tremendous amount damage to the real people that suffer from dv.
She lost in the court room where she had the opportunity do defend herself. She is blaming everything and everyone but herself. She will not take responsibility.
There's no need to speculate about why the jury didn't believe her. They didn't believe her because the evidence she presented contradicted her testimony. This was pretty obvious to anyone who actually watched the trial. And what exactly was unfair about the trial? Her supporters calling unfair it doesn't make it so. Rather than simply repeating their claims, can you identify what was "unfair" about it?
I really find his takes on this case quite appalling but if you look back at his history of videos on women he finds attractive such as Jodi Arias, Elizabeth Holmes, Cassie Anthony, and Karla Homolka, he cannot resist the inner simp coming out and offer some non-sinister mitigating excuse for their behaviour to slip in.
The evidence of Amber Heard's long-term history of violence (even independent of Johnny) is overwhelming and indisputable. Multiple people testified to witnessing or experiencing her violent rage towards friends, family and sexual partners; yet, Dr Grande insists on insinuating that Johnny was the unique sandpaper igniting her match. Victim Blaming 101.
Yes I too would like to know why he said the trial was unfair.
You summed it up perfectly, "Amber is not learning from her environment." I always enjoy your analyses and perspective.
A funny part of the interview:
Amber: "How could jurry convict me after seeing all the evidence?"
Savanah: "So you blame the jury?!"
Amber: "No, I don't blame them! But how could they see all the evidence and convict me?"
Savanah: 🤪
Viewers: 😐
😂🤣😂
You’re 10 minute overviews and analysis of cases makes my day!!! I love your candour & authenticity when you give your opinions!!! Thank you Dr Grande!!! 😊😊😊
I thought her testimony was incredibly damning. How can you say you got beaten and were afraid for your life but and the same time say the beaten wasn’t that bad and that you had no reason to be afraid of him?
And mocked him even more!!!. It's what my son's girl does.....continually ....to get a reaction. To this day he's not touched her as he's 6' 3" and she barely 5' . police have pictures of his bites ...bruises etc from her and even with restraining orders have not locked
her up. My son should run from her but.....feels pity instead. THATS what AMBER thrives on....to get her way. Such a sorry life. I worried forca while about her being suicidal but believe shell destroy everyone she can.....the BLAME GAME
And bought him a knife, for his birthday.
And was SA’d by a broken bottle and had lacerated feet, but never showed either injury to a health professional? She ‘didn’t need to’ (her words.)
Please explain what exactly are “the good points” that AH has that the trial was not fair??? If you actually watched the entire trial you would have seen just how fair it was. Also, it’s misleading to state that they were both guilty of defamation. AH won one claim that was in regard to Johnny’s lawyer’s statement. That is not exactly the same thing as Johnny himself defaming her. He still has to pay because it’s his lawyer but that is important context you should probably include because it’s not exactly equal like your choice of words implied.
I love your analysis on all cases, even when I don’t agree with you, but this particular one you have covered several times, it’s very obvious, based on several things you have said, that you did not watch the whole trial. It’s unfortunate too, because AH has been found responsible for defamation of another person that most people would be imprisoned for if they were true. She was caught, on the stand perjuring herself, multiple times. Again, you would know this if you watched the whole trial. It doesn’t seem like you did. Those are my thoughts and opinions. JD did not do the things she lied about. He had problems he admitted to. His biggest problem he had was getting away from his violent, abusive, wife at the time. What a nightmare!
I agree wholeheartedly. The trial was absolutely fair. And, it was a whopping success in his favor. The one instance of a claim that A.H.’s side gained was small, according to attorneys.
A.H. Had the same chance to speak as J.D., and present witnesses and experts. The cross examinations and recalls followed the same rules for both sides. Yes, there were mostly J.D. fans outside the courtroom. But why wouldn’t there be? ( to borrow A.H.’s technique.) Yes, the gallery inside the courtroom had mostly J.D. supporters, it seemed. But it could have been full of A.H.’s supporters if they had shown up.
Actually, only one person still connected to her came in person to support A.H. -- her sister.
I think you do good analysis in general Dr. G. Always worthwhile to watch.
Ms. ValleyMermaid Designs- you are a good writer! Thanks!
u should watch dr honda krk psychologist who reacted to these testimonies. i wanna know whats ur thought on him . compared to that dr this dr is waayyyyyy better n impartial.
@@vibhanaik6282 Dr. Honda really letting his bias show with this case. Dude spends an hour in his video of making up dozens of excuses as to why Amber Heard may not be lying which is unnecessary when she's blatantly lying. I understand being unbiased to its no need to fence sit with the evidence in your face
@@arizonaanalog389 omg yes. he pisses me off.
@@vibhanaik6282, yea… I wouldn’t even waist my time on someone like that. I watch Dr. Grande because he is unbiased, reasonable and fair, without judgement in the way that a good doctor should be. Dr, Grande has a lot of credibility imho. I guess that’s why I’m surprised by him making an analysis without, (what seems like), watching the entire trial because I don’t believe if he had, he’d of said some of these things or come to some of these conclusions in his opinion piece here.
Dr. Grande says that Amber's fans have a point when they say the trial wasn't fair. I disagree!! How was the trial unfair? And trials aren't meant to be fair, they are meant to be just, (as in justice).
I don't really buy the mutual abuse narrative. I don't think Heard required provocation to be callous and cruel, or even violent toward Johnny. Saying mean things to your abuser after years of one-sided fights can hardly be considered "mutual abuse" if you ask me.
I think Amber's decision to depict herself as a perfect, fawless saint and martyr on the stand was her extreme narcissism shining through. It ties in directly to her inability to take responsibility. Even when asked about it explicitly in the interview, the only thing Heard will admit to without qualifications is bad language. That's it. Everything else she was forced to do according to her new narrative.
NAILED IT! If you are being physically assaulted or abused you have every right to fight back. AH had been abusing JD physically, verbally and psychologically for years, and only at the end did he fight back, and then only verbally. To even hint there is the slightest bit of moral equivalency between the two is sick and wrong and once again abuses the real victim, JD.