*Love you beautiful butterflies - do we want a Drunk Elephant Dupes video or something else early next week?* PS: Instagram has some updates this video didn't mention instagram.com/cassandrabankson
oooo that would be great. The brand is waaay too expensive. I've purchased the eye cream it was really nice. But after what they did to Caroline I decided not to buy from them again.
Thank you for highlighting my video and shedding light on this Cassandra! I always love your deep dive videos. Upon initially posting my Drunk Elephant video, I was terrified to face a lot of backlash and have since seen how you (and other creators) were supportive in spreading the lesson that needs to be learned industry wide: _trust your customers and treat them with kindness_ ❤️
I always thought that the name 'drunk elephant' was meant to be light hearted and fun, talking about this myth (almost 'urban legend'). I never thought of it as exploitative or offensive and honestly don't think it was meant that way.
I literally don’t understand how the name exploits elephants. Even if the myth was exploitative (from what you’ve said here, questionable. At worst it’s an incorrect piece of elephant trivia) how does that make the name exploitative? How is naming something after a myth exploitative? It’s just a fun, nonsense name that connects to their key ingredient.
Ryan C exactly! 10 min of video talking shitty about a name of a brand?! This is really how to spill the tea out of nothing. I was hoping the skincare community was more relaxed and less dramatic compared to makeup community.
I'm a huge animal lover, and elephants are precious to me, but their name didn't offend me at all. I think it's cute and love that they give rack to the elephants.
@@skinme2340 It usually is! Check out people like James Welsh, Aliceintherabbithole, Dr. Dray, Skincare by Hyram, No BS Beauty, Dr. David Lim, and The Honest Beauty Review. For Korean Beauty, Kelly Driscoll, Lab Muffin Beauty, Beauty Within and Soo Beauty.
joannej_1974 UA-cam I follow them all, they review products and sometime they give negative feedback, but “spilling the tea” is something nasty and is different. Many youtubers need content for their videos but this one is really forced.
As a student of Bachelors of Sciences, I appreciate that you include papers, cite sources and use scientific terms now and then in your videos. It aids me own research into skincare! Much love from Singapore
Cassandra: “This mythical story that exploits a culture and elephants.” Me in my video next week, “The name is so cute!” 🤣🤣 Loved hearing your thoughts Cassandra!
I’m literally from South Africa & this is seriously the furthest thing from being offensive. It’s a name constructed with creative freedom & everyone needs to stop BEING SO SENSITIVE to every single little thing in the world, it’s a name ffs...
I agree with almost everything you're saying but it's a bit of a stretch to say they're exploiting Africa by calling the skincare line drunk elephant...
I think because the CEO was quoted saying some culturally insensitive things, about their Marula oil specifically I think. Also not sure how sustainably sourced this oil is!
@@EgoBrain1 y'all can't interpert, huh she literally says "BORDERLINE exploit" meaning is not exactly exploitative. But I guess you only listen to what to want so you can make fun of her content I guess.
I told them that their hydra b5 wasn’t enough, so I use a toner/essence, and they told me I couldn’t because toners and essences have fragrance. They weren’t about to hear about ones that didn’t. Never trust a brand that says you can’t use products from other brands. Edit: after coming back to this video, I realized that the drama does not affect the products. They’re still amazing, and I don’t have a problem purchasing them just because of horrible customer service. I’ve worked in customer service for a long time and I know that things aren’t always as they seem. I understand why people are “cancelling” this brand, but they’re evolving and I’d rather use products I know and trust.
Really I have never seen them say you cannot use any products from other brands. Just that you should avoid other products with fragrance and other skin irritants.
Michelle Michael, they had no reason to assume the products I used had fragrance. They did tell me that my skin problems would not go away until I only used products they approved of, and of course recommended their products. That was years ago, when I bought their entire line out of desperation. My skin was dry and irritated after a few weeks because the chemical exfoliants were damaging my skin barrier. They blamed my acne, dryness, and irritation on the fact that I once used a moisturizer that contained silicone. Maybe they didn’t explicitly state that I couldn’t use other brands, but it was definitely implicit that they were the only ones I should trust.
Send a screenshot of this so called conversation. I highly doubt you were told “do not use products from other brands”. That’s a pretty ridiculous claim
Love you. Personally, I don't think the name itself exploits elephants.. it's a cute name and most people probably don't know the myth, and I'm guessing no one would exploit elephants even if they knew the backstory (especially when they're in the cruelty free market). Just my thoughts. I don't think the name is bad.
The elephant in the room is no longer ignored. Thank you! My skin migrates more toward seed and camellia oils than marula, but my daughter loves this "clean" line. Would you consider spilling some tea on NIOD in a future video? I'd love to know more about this company and its partnership with Estee Lauder.
I love that people get super excited about learning things! (Ingredients, history, etc..) I remember when the retinol first came out. I had question as a skin nerd and they did not disrespect me. They didn’t dis-credit me either. They were patient and very polite/pleasant. I’ve always had a philosophy: what works for some doesn’t work for others. I’ve never experienced the social media attack/customer service attack. I kinda feel like the max flux in people trying it; the traffic, is more than the customer service team can handle. (No excuse for these attacks as you put it) so maybe a more structured and supportive head of HR needs to be considered. I’ve worked in this atmosphere for a while now, and the sad thing despite how it all plays out is how everything is a witch hunt. You’re a very savvy and smart individual. I believe in freedom of speech and respectfully listening to people’s views. Honestly your money and your choice has always been a motto. I just wish people would go back to educating instead of influencing. (It’s a double edged sword with how you take on these such issues) But in the end you lowered yourself a little when you wanted to educate by taking a jab here and there with this presentation. State the research and facts you’d like to hit on by anything that you encounter with a negative. Always stay positive and then the “content” has a solid purpose. I still enjoy the research and passion you give. But slightly concerned if this is going to be a continued characteristic(s) of what’s to come in your content.
Unpopular opinion : I don't care about their PR, or IG bashing. (do I support that ? NO) but their products just work for me. I've been suffering for eczema for years, dry skin, but still acne prone and their products saved my skin.
I used to be a HUGE fan of Drunk Elephant. I used to own all of the products and used to turn all of my friends & family onto the brand. I think now that we're a much more understanding community and we are able to make decisions for ourselves without needing all this marketing thrown in our face it hurt brands that rely on marketing, or packaging. We've become aware of ingredients and I would say most of us have the tools to understand them (Hyram, Susan, Cassandra, etc...). I think what Drunk Elephant does is insane to me. When you touched on the point of how their philosophy of "all skin issues are the same" really REALLY bugs me. I would love for my rosacea to be just a reaction to my skincare products, but ITS NOT. Everyone in my family has it and no amount of cute names and sleek packaging will change my skin.
So true! I like to spend money, because I got a bit of it. But even that doesn't make me buy this brand. There are so much better options, for just a fraction of their prices, that give better results. I'll not spend loads of money on mediocre products.
I’m sure the name is just a fun reference to the myth, not to spread the myth as a fact. Cass is so eloquent and on point in so many ways. The common place derogatory white references tho. White kids gotta be ashamed of being white to fit in? No babe, be proud of yourself what ever colour, even white. It may seem to be disconnected from the topic, it’s just that we hear it all the time so casually from so many people. Also I have never tried Drunk E , it’s pretty overpriced, will be looking into dupes for sure.
@@EgoBrain1 exactly lol. That's so lame. She thinks by putting the word "white" in her attack on DE that that somehow makes her some type of edgy, racial equality campaigner 🤣🤣🤣. She's completely clueless that it's not only WW that use DE. Asian, Indian, blk women love it too because they have great products to even out skin tone . But of course she wouldn't know that would she? I guarantee every single good friend this girl has is as white as she is. Shocking.
@@rowenya spot on! She's so arrogant and obnoxious she doesn't realize shes part of the problem. She suffers from White Savior Complex. Most white libs do.
@@Sebadoh1994 so youre going to give money to a company that treats their own customers like shit ? And she never said all their products were bad she said is idiotic go think their products cant cause irritation to the skin.
Their sunscreen was one of the worst I have ever tried! Their Vitamin C serum started out okay and then they re-formulated the ingredients and it was awful. I kindly wrote customer service to inquire about the changes and got a rude reply in return. Haven't bought from them since and won't be buying from them again. Talk about overpriced. Glad someone is shedding light on this company.
doesn't hide the fact their customer service being shitty, treatment with customers being shitty and infuencers, and the ambiguous philosophy so fucking shitty.
I got a few of their minis and I love them, they’re the only products where I saw a visual, noticeable difference, even after trying even more expensive products from dermatologists which didn’t make a scrap of difference! I really like DE and will be buying the bigger versions of their products as the minis run out, I saw a noticeable difference in 2 days of using a combination of their products.
This is honestly amazing. As someone struggled with hidradenitis suppurativa who has had bad acne since they were 12, I've tried a lot of products for acne. It bugs me when people assume that certain ingredients cause acne/sensitivity. No. Its literally in my DNA. Also boo, I just bought their sunscreen before watching this 😭
I've personally reached out to Drunk Elephant via email about skin concerns and they were extremely kind, professional and informative. They provided tips and advice that's been beneficial to my skin. I believe it was quite a stretch to claim that the name exploits elephants? It's a playful way to connect their key ingredient. I personally recommend doing your own research on the company.
Yeah... because you were a potential consumer... if you call/email them to complain that one of their products gave you acne that's an entire different story.
Interesting. I watched an interview with the Drunk Elephant's creator. She said she came up with the elephant when she was trying to come up with a logo/name and her daughter drew the sketch of the elephant.
"It was named after a myth that doesn't even exist." The national animal of Scotland is a unicorn, Wales is a dragon. Those are mythical creatures. Myth has never equated to truth. Are you okay?
Okay 2 questions: 1. Do you know of a dupe for the b hydra? That’s one of the only products that really really works for me 2. Where did you get that elephant mug 👀
B hydra wasn’t hydrating enough for me, so I had to PILE it on to get enough hydration. Hada labo lotion is an amazing product. It’s available on amazon, $12-15 for a giant bottle. It’s a clear liquid with tons of hydrating ingredients and comes in different intensities for different skin conditions. If you want a brand that sells officially in the U.S., try some Korean brands. Many of them are available online, or in Ulta or Sephora. They’re more affordable than American brands but tend to be fragrance free and have great ingredients. Just look for the word “essence.” I hope this helped; if you have any questions, I’ve been into skincare for a long time and could likely answer questions you have :)
I actually used to work at Sephora lol. I was part of the tuition reimbursement program for them to become an esthetician and then corona 😩 but thank you for the suggestions!
Ashley Hoss The Ordinary- Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5! No more than $12.20 for the big bottle. I’ve used both and The Ordinary is just as good and more affordable!
Finally someone cracked open the hype and showed us what’s under it. I always had a sneaking suspicion about drunk elephant, never bought a product of theirs as a result and dang glad I didn’t.
Exposing a brand is a very good idea because some people don't know about the brand and they will waste their money on the product which are hipped by influencers and that company doesn't have morals. We love you go ahead. We souport you ❤️❤️❤️
After watching Hyram's video I didn't intend to buy them, but after watching this, I am now convinced. It's too expensive anyway but thank you for taking the time to shed light on this issue so eloquently!
Please do a dupe video!!! I just bought Protini as a treat to myself and I love it but I don’t want to repurchase it, now. I’ve also been looking for something similar to their Vitamin C. Thank you for explaining this!
This is the same example as a certain organization and breast cancer. Question everything and do your own research. This skin care line is way out my price range and I feel quite certain my face will do fine without any of DE’s products. Thank you. I appreciate truth tellers. Good job. 🙏🏻💞🕊
I think I’ll go buy drunk elephant now. Just because everyone loves to jump on a bandwagon and bash companies. Nothing wrong with their name, people just love to find stuff to complain about!
I don’t really care about this whole social media drama. Nor do I care if they sell in China or not. Do the products work? Are they good? Are they worth the price for what they offer? That’s all I care about.
OMG I love this series so fricking much!!!!! I look forward to your videos and have learn't so much from them. You're so passionate about everything and not afraid to show flaws in both yourself and others, all while having a personality that is so bright and fun to watch - it feels like i' m hanging out with a friend. Please continue to do these in depth videos and talk about the science behind ingredients. Yours, someone with hyper pigmentation that is FINALLY fading.
Being vocal and shedding a light whats happening within the beauty industry (generally in every industry), raising awareness about the values, CSR and customer relations of such a famous brand is the only way to force those corporations to be more responsible and ethical on the market :) Ill personally will never ever buy their products now knowing that much about their business practices, so THANK YOU Cassandra :) Ive see Hyram's video as well, he is awesome
I love elephants as well and if we were "defending their voicelessness" I really dont think they would give a shit about them using their alleged drunkeness which has no moral value in the animal world to sell product. As much as they would care about using this marketing gimmick to drive sales using murula as a skincare product instead of a food source for elephants.
Yeah! I knew u we’re gonna go a drunk elephant video from the stats, bu Tim glad I can finally know why it’s not working for my skin. Thanks bb! (You have made me so confident in my skin and skincare)
I would love you to do a video on Le Roche Posay, CeraVe or Bare Mineral products! :D The videos you produce are so helpful and informative! I love how you exert your own professional and personal opinion whilst encouraging others to take an initiative by 'turning and learning.' After suffering with eczema all my life I feel I am starting to take control of my skin and thus feel happier in the process! Thank you Cassandra
The DE owner's whole argument that all skin is the same makes no sense. So why create a plethora of products designed to target specific skin conditions and skin concerns? They have a bunch of products targeted for dull skin, acne-prone skin, dry skin, etc. but it why would they have those products if apparently, these conditions don't really exist according to the owner?? If the owner truly believed that bizarre "fact" she would've just needed to create 4-5 products period.
I have sensitive acne prone skin and Marula oil itself it has been a game changer to me! As their C firma too. They might have a lot of flaws, but which brands don’t? their products are good to me and my experience with their cs 👍🏻
Thanks so much for your comment on this. If I may share a bit more of an explanation: yes, I am very aware that Africa is a continent and I am familiar with the different countries within Africa. While doing research for this video, the scientific article in the Journal of zoology specifically mentioned particular countries, within Africa, where this phenomenon was happening and research was occurring. When I was filming the video, (and having this study as a reference in my head), I said “exploiting a country”, and it wasn’t until I was editing that I realized this mistake, because although the study related to this specific area, the phenomenon is happening throughout the continent, in multiple different countries. I tried to correct this with an asterisk but I completely understand how it comes off a different way. It’s never my intention to offend others, or to try to spread misinformation. That being said, coming from America, we never even had to learn the countries in Africa. (Disposable of your ask me) That was something I did on my own later on in my educational career. I don’t blame people for looking at this brown hair, green eyed chick from America and thinking that she wouldn’t know the difference. Either way I thank you for bringing it up because it further helps to clarify things for those who may not know and opens up the much needed healthy conversation. Appreciate you!
Zinnia Roberts hey gorgeous and thank you so much for bringing this up! I’ve checked, and the Latin name for marula oil, sclerocarya birrea, is in every single one of the skin care products that I looked at. I always love to learn though! Can you please tell me which of the products do not contain sclerocarya birrea kernel oil/ marula oil?
Daria Werner Thanks so much for your comment on this. If I may share a bit more of an explanation: yes, I am very aware that Africa is a continent and I am familiar with the different countries within Africa. While doing research for this video, the scientific article in the Journal of zoology specifically mentioned particular countries, within Africa, where this phenomenon was happening and research was occurring. When I was filming the video, (and having this study as a reference in my head), I said “exploiting a country”, and it wasn’t until I was editing that I realized this mistake, because although the study related to this specific area, the phenomenon is happening throughout the continent, in multiple different countries. I tried to correct this with an asterisk but I completely understand how it comes off a different way. It’s never my intention to offend others, or to try to spread misinformation. That being said, coming from America, we never even had to learn the countries in Africa. (Disposable of your ask me) That was something I did on my own later on in my educational career. I don’t blame people for looking at this brown hair, green eyed chick from America and thinking that she wouldn’t know the difference. Either way I thank you for bringing it up because it further helps to clarify things for those who may not know and opens up the much needed healthy conversation. Appreciate you!
Great video! As a cosmetic chemist - I wanted to chime in on the cruelty-free aspect. Chemists and their regulatory team request cruelty-free international documentation from every supplier of every ingredient in their formulas. Then those documents need to be renewed every year in order to keep that status for a brand. Just because a brand is purchased by a company that is not cruelty-free, does not mean that the brand is no longer cruelty-free or will not maintain that status in the future. I actually think a brand is more likely to maintain that status with a larger company since there are more regulatory resources to maintain it - especially if the cruelty-free claim is important to the brand’s equity.
Probably the only factual thing said on this whole video- Cass is just trying to continue the hate campaign towards DE started by Hyram. It’s really unethical of her to intentionally misrepresent things.
I love the TLC framboos glycolic serum!!! I’m not sure I can stop because it genuinely cured my bad acne and smoothed out my skin so well! That’s the only thing I really use though. I actually also have been using the retinol and it’s pretty great. But I could change that. I’m just not sure I can give up the serum 🥴
I’ve started using a few of these products and my skin has changed for the best 100%. It is like night and day. I only knew about the negative responses and bad customer services not enough to quit buying. It is due to the prices that I may not buy them again.
We women hold the purse strings & if we all band together we can cause them to make changes & therefore, FINALLY get women to buy their products... "If you want to go somewhere fast, go alone. If you want to go far go together!" African proverb
I've been on the fence about this brand for a while. It's nice that it's all fragrance free, but I could never get behind the prices. The ingredients are basic at best and you could get the same thing at walgreens for 1/4 of the price without all the shadiness.
The ranting about the name makes no sense to me, now you can only name your company with a real name? Protecting the animals because they can do it themselves is irrelevant here. How na king your brand hurting the animal?
As an esty, someone should explain how someone who isn't a derm or an etsy, is a skincare specialist, what are hyrams qualifications to be a skincare specialist?
I saw Hyram’s video last year, so I’ve never purchased any of DE’s products (not that they’re really in my budget), but you added more information to the story that I did not know. Thank you, Cassandra!
Over the course of one meeting/webinar with the founder, she seemed so dispassionate about the brand. Like, you could tell she wasnt in it for anything other than the potential money. From not being transparent about their "donations" and straight up telling us that "We dont have any connection to Africa" when asked how she chose the idea and name for the brand (yeesh). Her answer for many things too, when questioned about ingredients and name ideas, she said, straight faced, "I went on to google and just translated things into a different language". I'd like to think that theres a difference between brands born out of passion and then brands like this.
I appreciate everyones views but I love their products and will continue to purchase them. I have a hard time finding products that work for my skin and spent years searching for products that work as well as DE does for me.
I think that’s reasonable though! It’s really hard to find the right regimen for your skin, so if you found it with DE and don’t mind the prices, that’s great. When it comes down to it, we are all trying to find what works best for us.
I agree. Take all the drama out that people are creating and all you have left is a superb skin care line. I can say that some of the things she said arent all factual anyways
Most of us spend a small fortune trying to find products that work, and even then they don't always work together. The thing I love about DE is their products are designed to work together without any contradictions or irritation (for the majority). I use their TLC FRAMBOOISE GLYCOLIC NIGHT SERUM, B Hydra Serum, Jelly Cleanser and Umbra Tinte SPF. I tried to find dupes for 2 years and couldn't. Once I finish the stash of moisturizers, I might get Protini or La La. I really loved those moisturizers!
I’m glad you bought it up as I had reaction I had clear skin no ache nothing took me months to get my skin the way it is today! The way they spoke to me was disgusting I wouldn’t even give it to friends so over £300 quid went straight in the bin!
As a South African born girl I hate to break it to you but drunk elephants are real. The marula fruit falls from the trees, then ferments in the sun. Because of the elephant’s size they have to eat a LOT, but it does happen.. it happens frequently with monkeys/baboons though.
I’m sorry but where did the whole “silicones are deadly” thing came from? I get that some people don’t like it in their hair conditioner, fine. What is wrong with silicon in a moisturizer?
@Serein Serenity that’s true. I just don’t understand the whole thing about silicons specifically are going to hurt you, not what they can trap in your skin (which is true of all occlusive ingredients)
There's actually nothing wrong with silicones in skincare. They are simply occlusive ingredients that trap moisture in your skin therefore they do benefit your skin by decreasing the transepidermal water loss. They're no worse than any other occlusive ingredients. Actually they're great for oily skin because they're very light and breathable. Obviously they may trigger acne for some people but so everything else can. The plastic wrap thing is a common myth that comes from 'natural/organic' skincare philosophy.
Hi Cassandra, as you mention several times infringing the patent of Skin Ceutical CE Ferulic, are you should it did not expire yet? I heard about very good dupes due to the expiration of patent, but again I did not research it. It’s just heard on the YT. Thanks for the brand review. Always appreciated.
Please please please do a “dupes for TLC” type of video soon please. I really only tried 2 products from D.E. & the TLC I loved. I don’t want to support them but I can’t find anything as good as their TLC. SOS
sonia valencia their products are really good. I’m not giving anything up. I don’t like how they handle their business but their products have cleared my skin.
If do you like it, it works for you and have the money to invest (skincare is an investment) go ahead and continue using the TLC. Sometimes I have spent more money trying dupes than buying the DE product. We should use what is effective for our skin.
This is going to sound selfish.. but their products have been working on my skin and I don’t want to cut it based on whatever their morals are , i don’t care i just want a healthy skin and products that does the job , many brands are testing on animals and have never gotten a backlash however i’ll avoid it if they started testing on animals 🙅🏻♀️
I just tried a sample of their Sunshine Drops and had a major reaction 😞😞 I’ve got sore spots everywhere (even my neck because I blended it down). So.. definitely not for all sensitive skin...!!! I hear you!
Can you do the truth about The Ordinary? Maybe talk about the intense chemical burns they've caused and lawsuits. Maybe talk about the arguments theyve gotten into online. Please.
The world of beauty is full of so many not so beautiful ingredients, behaviours and practices. I’m so over the stories created by the marketing and PR agencies hired by beauty companies to create a brand image that appeals to our values so they can sell, sell, sell. Even those that may start with the right intentions often go south. What I’d really like to know is whether Drunk Elephant is now made in China? It made a big story of being made in the US. Have searched high and low for a statement from Shiseido rejecting this, but can’t find one. Why is there silence about this? Also some of Drunk Elephant’s products are not vegan, given they’re derived from animals.
This was super informative. Thank you for all your research! I received a sample of some of their products, and they didn’t seem like anything special to me, certainly not worth the high price tag. But I had no idea about this whole back story. Wow!
Last year, the former founder of Deciem (now deceased) had posted a dig at the CEO of Drunk Elephant over the overpriced marula oil they were selling months before his death. Of course, we know that the Ordinary had its own version of marula oil which was way cheaper. I think that in all honesty, the overpricing of products to give the illusion of its goodness is misleading to the consumer public,not to mention outright stupid. Some of their products are generally good from a dermatological point of view as I have read, and I have used one or two of them too. However, I still cannot get past their bad attitude towards their customers online, and their overpricing of products.
Cassandra I want to thank you for your research your wealth of information. Your inner beauty and helping us with our outer beauty. You are a wonderful breath of fresh air. These videos ROCK!!
I’m extremely leery of super expensive products. It’s absolutely ridiculous how much they charge for some skin care products. Especially when the ingredients are not expensive. I’ll be 44 this year. Now I’m into skin care always have been. But in all honesty I can flat out say I know it’s my genetics, I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. We age differently than others... if I were to say oh my god this cream is awesome you should use it, keep your skin useful and tight. I’ll be doing that person a disservice. Another thing I can’t stand in the skin care room they always choose people that are young and have superb skin. And God for bid if they don’t put a Botox penned up cut up sliced up diced up woman that’s an elder for their skin care line...
Wow, I didn't know this about Drunk Elephant. Thank you for speaking about it. I've also struggled with acne and skin sensitivity and was so excited for DE to be available in Australia, as soon as Mecca launched this brand I bought almost everything that was available at the time, including TLC serum, hydra B serum, both soaps and also received a deluxe sample of C- Firma serum recently. I wanted to love these products so bad but each one caused the same reaction, small red bumps all over my face filled with something that looked just like water but I'm not entirely sure what it was. I've tried each product multiple times because I didn't want to believe that the reaction I was getting was from DE products, but sure enough I've reacted each time and as soon as I would stop using those products my skin would heal withing a few days. The only few products that didn't cause a reaction was c-tango under eye cream and soaps, however I've noticed my skin texture got a lot worse when I was using soaps and my skin also was all over the place, so I stopped using soaps too. Also after watching this video I don't feel like purchasing c-tango cream ever again, even though I loved it but price is just too high - it's $93 AUD or something ridiculous like this. Thank you again for the video 💖
Great video! Drunk Elephant has a true cult following....or maybe it's just a cult 😬 Anywho, everything I've ever tried (only ever sampled, never purchased) has left me underwhelmed.
I really REALLY hope this becomes widespread knowledge! I almost bought a couple DE products at the Sephora sale but came across their unprofessionalism just in time!
I had the worst experience with this product. DO NOT BUY. I'm now having to deal with a burning rash around both my eyes..hopefully in a few weeks it will be healed. I'm regretting not seeing these videos earlier!!!
Love it!! Please do one on Some By Mi too. I want to purchase their products, but I am so nervous. I have very sensitive skin. I'm using The Ordinary's products to help my acne and acne scars. I heard Some By Mi is great, but I'm afraid to use "too" many products on my skin.
*Love you beautiful butterflies - do we want a Drunk Elephant Dupes video or something else early next week?* PS: Instagram has some updates this video didn't mention instagram.com/cassandrabankson
Yes please ❤️ can you include the c tango eye cream? Been trying to get a cheaper dupe for that for a while now
oooo that would be great. The brand is waaay too expensive. I've purchased the eye cream it was really nice. But after what they did to Caroline I decided not to buy from them again.
What happened with DE and the ordinary? Iv been using the ordinary for months and looveee it will never go back
YES! Dupe video please ❤
I would like to see a video about Bioderma. I want to know if they are worth the prize 🤔😀
Thank you for highlighting my video and shedding light on this Cassandra! I always love your deep dive videos. Upon initially posting my Drunk Elephant video, I was terrified to face a lot of backlash and have since seen how you (and other creators) were supportive in spreading the lesson that needs to be learned industry wide: _trust your customers and treat them with kindness_ ❤️
I’m so hyped by all of that positivity and support in the UA-cam skincare community 💕
Hello, dear Hyram!
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Heyyy Hyram😍
This is why Iove youtube's skincare community, you're all so lovely and wholesome to each other.
Hyram!!!!!
Thank you for addressing the elephant in the room.
HA! This is the best comment!
😂😂😂 glad somebody said it
Not related but *why are you everywhere ?*
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Genius pun, 10/10
What I realized: that the elephant, and their _prices_ are indeed, *Drunk.*
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Try it if you can afford it. You'll love it.
@@algernon2005 nahh, disagreedl
I always thought that the name 'drunk elephant' was meant to be light hearted and fun, talking about this myth (almost 'urban legend'). I never thought of it as exploitative or offensive and honestly don't think it was meant that way.
It isn't exploitive or offensive. Just more PC nonsense. Lol
Totally agree, honestly sometimes people are too much 🙄
I agree - the name is fun and I think people are making too much of the name. It is not exploitative at all.
Yeah! I thought that was bullshit on her video. Who cares? It's not like they kill elephants and put their blood on their products
In Sweden we have drunk mooses...
I literally don’t understand how the name exploits elephants. Even if the myth was exploitative (from what you’ve said here, questionable. At worst it’s an incorrect piece of elephant trivia) how does that make the name exploitative? How is naming something after a myth exploitative? It’s just a fun, nonsense name that connects to their key ingredient.
Agreed, she went off the deep end. Also claiming that people who work for drunk elephant must be “drunk” is something you can can sued for.
Ryan C exactly! 10 min of video talking shitty about a name of a brand?! This is really how to spill the tea out of nothing. I was hoping the skincare community was more relaxed and less dramatic compared to makeup community.
I'm a huge animal lover, and elephants are precious to me, but their name didn't offend me at all. I think it's cute and love that they give rack to the elephants.
@@skinme2340 It usually is! Check out people like James Welsh, Aliceintherabbithole, Dr. Dray, Skincare by Hyram, No BS Beauty, Dr. David Lim, and The Honest Beauty Review. For Korean Beauty, Kelly Driscoll, Lab Muffin Beauty, Beauty Within and Soo Beauty.
joannej_1974 UA-cam I follow them all, they review products and sometime they give negative feedback, but “spilling the tea” is something nasty and is different. Many youtubers need content for their videos but this one is really forced.
As a student of Bachelors of Sciences, I appreciate that you include papers, cite sources and use scientific terms now and then in your videos. It aids me own research into skincare! Much love from Singapore
Cassandra: “This mythical story that exploits a culture and elephants.” Me in my video next week, “The name is so cute!” 🤣🤣 Loved hearing your thoughts Cassandra!
Cant wait to hear your opinions on the brand susan!
Susan Yara I think it's cute too! I'm over this overly pc culture where everyone gets offended by every little thing.
Are you African?if yess then only then you can get offended
Morgane Fierce that’s ridiculous.
I’m literally from South Africa & this is seriously the furthest thing from being offensive. It’s a name constructed with creative freedom & everyone needs to stop BEING SO SENSITIVE to every single little thing in the world, it’s a name ffs...
Well DAYUM girl thank YOU for your support and for holding them up to scrutiny.
Yours, the expert with ‘no understanding of formulas’. 😂🤷♀️♥️👌
Awe I love you, my favorite “ been in the industry 50 years but must not know how retinol works as according to some man in a lab coat” expert! 🤣💜💞
We all love you Caroline
I agree with almost everything you're saying but it's a bit of a stretch to say they're exploiting Africa by calling the skincare line drunk elephant...
I know right ! Lol. No exploiting at all I say. Ridiculous bit of nonsense info lol. 🤔
I think because the CEO was quoted saying some culturally insensitive things, about their Marula oil specifically I think. Also not sure how sustainably sourced this oil is!
@@clarisselarue151 She specifically said the name was exploitive and that is nonsense. 😆
These days so many people super sensitive. Ha.Ha
@@EgoBrain1 y'all can't interpert, huh
she literally says "BORDERLINE exploit" meaning is not exactly exploitative.
But I guess you only listen to what to want so you can make fun of her content I guess.
I told them that their hydra b5 wasn’t enough, so I use a toner/essence, and they told me I couldn’t because toners and essences have fragrance. They weren’t about to hear about ones that didn’t.
Never trust a brand that says you can’t use products from other brands.
Edit: after coming back to this video, I realized that the drama does not affect the products. They’re still amazing, and I don’t have a problem purchasing them just because of horrible customer service. I’ve worked in customer service for a long time and I know that things aren’t always as they seem. I understand why people are “cancelling” this brand, but they’re evolving and I’d rather use products I know and trust.
Really I have never seen them say you cannot use any products from other brands. Just that you should avoid other products with fragrance and other skin irritants.
Michelle Michael, they had no reason to assume the products I used had fragrance. They did tell me that my skin problems would not go away until I only used products they approved of, and of course recommended their products. That was years ago, when I bought their entire line out of desperation. My skin was dry and irritated after a few weeks because the chemical exfoliants were damaging my skin barrier. They blamed my acne, dryness, and irritation on the fact that I once used a moisturizer that contained silicone. Maybe they didn’t explicitly state that I couldn’t use other brands, but it was definitely implicit that they were the only ones I should trust.
@@modernaristocracy3641 ok👌
Sounds like something Dr. dray would say
Send a screenshot of this so called conversation. I highly doubt you were told “do not use products from other brands”. That’s a pretty ridiculous claim
Love you. Personally, I don't think the name itself exploits elephants.. it's a cute name and most people probably don't know the myth, and I'm guessing no one would exploit elephants even if they knew the backstory (especially when they're in the cruelty free market).
Just my thoughts. I don't think the name is bad.
The elephant in the room is no longer ignored. Thank you! My skin migrates more toward seed and camellia oils than marula, but my daughter loves this "clean" line. Would you consider spilling some tea on NIOD in a future video? I'd love to know more about this company and its partnership with Estee Lauder.
I love that people get super excited about learning things! (Ingredients, history, etc..)
I remember when the retinol first came out. I had question as a skin nerd and they did not disrespect me. They didn’t dis-credit me either.
They were patient and very polite/pleasant.
I’ve always had a philosophy: what works for some doesn’t work for others. I’ve never experienced the social media attack/customer service attack.
I kinda feel like the max flux in people trying it; the traffic, is more than the customer service team can handle. (No excuse for these attacks as you put it) so maybe a more structured and supportive head of HR needs to be considered.
I’ve worked in this atmosphere for a while now, and the sad thing despite how it all plays out is how everything is a witch hunt.
You’re a very savvy and smart individual. I believe in freedom of speech and respectfully listening to people’s views.
Honestly your money and your choice has always been a motto. I just wish people would go back to educating instead of influencing. (It’s a double edged sword with how you take on these such issues)
But in the end you lowered yourself a little when you wanted to educate by taking a jab here and there with this presentation.
State the research and facts you’d like to hit on by anything that you encounter with a negative. Always stay positive and then the “content” has a solid purpose.
I still enjoy the research and passion you give.
But slightly concerned if this is going to be a continued characteristic(s) of what’s to come in your content.
I wish there was a "love button" to hit in response to yours. With much respect and appreciation, well said.
Unpopular opinion :
I don't care about their PR, or IG bashing. (do I support that ? NO) but their products just work for me. I've been suffering for eczema for years, dry skin, but still acne prone and their products saved my skin.
SAME. this who video is just petty.
I used to be a HUGE fan of Drunk Elephant. I used to own all of the products and used to turn all of my friends & family onto the brand. I think now that we're a much more understanding community and we are able to make decisions for ourselves without needing all this marketing thrown in our face it hurt brands that rely on marketing, or packaging. We've become aware of ingredients and I would say most of us have the tools to understand them (Hyram, Susan, Cassandra, etc...). I think what Drunk Elephant does is insane to me. When you touched on the point of how their philosophy of "all skin issues are the same" really REALLY bugs me. I would love for my rosacea to be just a reaction to my skincare products, but ITS NOT. Everyone in my family has it and no amount of cute names and sleek packaging will change my skin.
*me being okay with cancelling drunk elephant because it’s expensive*
So true! I like to spend money, because I got a bit of it. But even that doesn't make me buy this brand. There are so much better options, for just a fraction of their prices, that give better results. I'll not spend loads of money on mediocre products.
@@cathrinerhardt do you recommend another product that mirrors their T.L.C. Framboos™ Glycolic Night Serum ?
@@min1549 the some by Mi AHA, BHA, PHA Miracle Serum comes to mind.
@@cathrinerhardt lol 😂 seriously?! Some by mi compared to Drunk Elephant 😅
Caroline Hirons is such an amazing resource in the skincare and beauty world. I absolutely love her. Thank you for this video!
I feel SIGNIFICANTLY less powerless as a consumer THANK YOU.
That feeling is the goal. Love you and thank you for being here!
How can you love someone you literally never met ? Comes off very inauthentic.
“Tourist safari for white soccer moms” 😂 I’m dying. But it’s kinda true
I’m sure the name is just a fun reference to the myth, not to spread the myth as a fact. Cass is so eloquent and on point in so many ways. The common place derogatory white references tho. White kids gotta be ashamed of being white to fit in? No babe, be proud of yourself what ever colour, even white. It may seem to be disconnected from the topic, it’s just that we hear it all the time so casually from so many people. Also I have never tried Drunk E , it’s pretty overpriced, will be looking into dupes for sure.
@@rowenya Being anti white is the new fad. White guilt by white women telling us we should have white guilt too. 🙄
@@EgoBrain1 exactly lol. That's so lame. She thinks by putting the word "white" in her attack on DE that that somehow makes her some type of edgy, racial equality campaigner 🤣🤣🤣.
She's completely clueless that it's not only WW that use DE. Asian, Indian, blk women love it too because they have great products to even out skin tone . But of course she wouldn't know that would she? I guarantee every single good friend this girl has is as white as she is. Shocking.
@@rowenya spot on! She's so arrogant and obnoxious she doesn't realize shes part of the problem. She suffers from White Savior Complex. Most white libs do.
I was thinking of splurging in their products this past week, glad I didnt. Will stick to the ordinary, cerave, and derma e
Koriyn Coffman their skincare is amazing this is just one persons opinion
@@Sebadoh1994 so youre going to give money to a company that treats their own customers like shit ? And she never said all their products were bad she said is idiotic go think their products cant cause irritation to the skin.
Good choice! It’s meh at best. I regret spending the hundreds that I did on it ughhhh
You did the right thing not buying.
I love drunk elephant products!!!! There’s not one item I regret purchasing
your commentary is honestly the highlight of my day
I’m so happy to hear this. Sending you lots of love 💕
They’re no longer cruelty free after being bought by Shiseido
Their sunscreen was one of the worst I have ever tried! Their Vitamin C serum started out okay and then they re-formulated the ingredients and it was awful. I kindly wrote customer service to inquire about the changes and got a rude reply in return. Haven't bought from them since and won't be buying from them again. Talk about overpriced. Glad someone is shedding light on this company.
You’re being over dramatic about the name. I think it was meant to be a fun, lighthearted thing.
doesn't hide the fact their customer service being shitty, treatment with customers being shitty and infuencers, and the ambiguous philosophy so fucking shitty.
Exactly! bash the brand for a valid reason, stop nit-picking the unnecessary things smh
@@nikitaroy2616 💯
I got a few of their minis and I love them, they’re the only products where I saw a visual, noticeable difference, even after trying even more expensive products from dermatologists which didn’t make a scrap of difference! I really like DE and will be buying the bigger versions of their products as the minis run out, I saw a noticeable difference in 2 days of using a combination of their products.
This is honestly amazing. As someone struggled with hidradenitis suppurativa who has had bad acne since they were 12, I've tried a lot of products for acne. It bugs me when people assume that certain ingredients cause acne/sensitivity. No. Its literally in my DNA. Also boo, I just bought their sunscreen before watching this 😭
I've personally reached out to Drunk Elephant via email about skin concerns and they were extremely kind, professional and informative. They provided tips and advice that's been beneficial to my skin. I believe it was quite a stretch to claim that the name exploits elephants? It's a playful way to connect their key ingredient. I personally recommend doing your own research on the company.
Yeah... because you were a potential consumer... if you call/email them to complain that one of their products gave you acne that's an entire different story.
Frankie Favero fr. Diana should test and fake complain about their products to see if DE responds the same way...
@@frankiefavero1666 lies. I've BEEN a customer for yrs with complaints, sendbacks, etc. Theyre always patient and professional.
Interesting. I watched an interview with the Drunk Elephant's creator. She said she came up with the elephant when she was trying to come up with a logo/name and her daughter drew the sketch of the elephant.
The ordinary is an absolute godsend for us. ❤️
"How many martinis have you been drinking this morning ma'am ? " resumes everything 🤣❤️
"It was named after a myth that doesn't even exist." The national animal of Scotland is a unicorn, Wales is a dragon. Those are mythical creatures. Myth has never equated to truth. Are you okay?
I’m a year late, but this ^. I love your comment
@@swilliams5554 loved it too 🤣🤣
Okay 2 questions:
1. Do you know of a dupe for the b hydra? That’s one of the only products that really really works for me
2. Where did you get that elephant mug 👀
B hydra wasn’t hydrating enough for me, so I had to PILE it on to get enough hydration. Hada labo lotion is an amazing product. It’s available on amazon, $12-15 for a giant bottle. It’s a clear liquid with tons of hydrating ingredients and comes in different intensities for different skin conditions. If you want a brand that sells officially in the U.S., try some Korean brands. Many of them are available online, or in Ulta or Sephora. They’re more affordable than American brands but tend to be fragrance free and have great ingredients. Just look for the word “essence.” I hope this helped; if you have any questions, I’ve been into skincare for a long time and could likely answer questions you have :)
Try the hado labo skin plumping gel cream. It’s a great humectant. Also I believe you can get that mug on amazon.
I actually used to work at Sephora lol. I was part of the tuition reimbursement program for them to become an esthetician and then corona 😩 but thank you for the suggestions!
Check out Jordan Samuel’s hydrate serum(: his whole line is great actually
Ashley Hoss The Ordinary- Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5! No more than $12.20 for the big bottle. I’ve used both and The Ordinary is just as good and more affordable!
Finally someone cracked open the hype and showed us what’s under it. I always had a sneaking suspicion about drunk elephant, never bought a product of theirs as a result and dang glad I didn’t.
DE makes great products. This girl is being paid by the Ordinary to bash other lines. Don't believe anything out of her mouth.
Skinceuticals are very high quality, I would rather spend 166$ on Skinceuticals rather than spend 1$ on a brand that attacks their customers.
Skincutical feels like sticky sh** t. Almost lost my eyes ones put Ferrulic Serum and Sunscreen. But returned. Thanks to CS.
Exposing a brand is a very good idea because some people don't know about the brand and they will waste their money on the product which are hipped by influencers and that company doesn't have morals. We love you go ahead. We souport you ❤️❤️❤️
After watching Hyram's video I didn't intend to buy them, but after watching this, I am now convinced. It's too expensive anyway but thank you for taking the time to shed light on this issue so eloquently!
Please do a dupe video!!! I just bought Protini as a treat to myself and I love it but I don’t want to repurchase it, now. I’ve also been looking for something similar to their Vitamin C. Thank you for explaining this!
I love protini too and I got the inkey list peptide moisturiser as a dupe and it’s awful 😭😭 do its you’re thinking of the inkey list don’t go for it x
Me too. I hope she does
Daria Werner Oooo thanks for lmk! I was thinking about trying that but then decided not to, bc the ingredient list seemed abysmal!
I loved their vitamin c but paulas choice vitamin c is a close second to me!!:)
I think the vit c serum by timeless is very similar.
This is the same example as a certain organization and breast cancer. Question everything and do your own research. This skin care line is way out my price range and I feel quite certain my face will do fine without any of DE’s products. Thank you. I appreciate truth tellers. Good job. 🙏🏻💞🕊
That’s literally what a myth is. Something that’s is said popularly and broadly that doesn’t actually happen! 🙄
Literally ! lol 🤔ummmm how funny right. Duh 🤔😋🤗
I think I’ll go buy drunk elephant now. Just because everyone loves to jump on a bandwagon and bash companies. Nothing wrong with their name, people just love to find stuff to complain about!
the amount of elephant puns in this video is ✨ A S T R O N O M I C A L ✨i love it
I don’t really care about this whole social media drama. Nor do I care if they sell in China or not. Do the products work? Are they good? Are they worth the price for what they offer? That’s all I care about.
OMG I love this series so fricking much!!!!! I look forward to your videos and have learn't so much from them. You're so passionate about everything and not afraid to show flaws in both yourself and others, all while having a personality that is so bright and fun to watch - it feels like i' m hanging out with a friend. Please continue to do these in depth videos and talk about the science behind ingredients. Yours, someone with hyper pigmentation that is FINALLY fading.
Being vocal and shedding a light whats happening within the beauty industry (generally in every industry), raising awareness about the values, CSR and customer relations of such a famous brand is the only way to force those corporations to be more responsible and ethical on the market :) Ill personally will never ever buy their products now knowing that much about their business practices, so THANK YOU Cassandra :) Ive see Hyram's video as well, he is awesome
I love elephants as well and if we were "defending their voicelessness" I really dont think they would give a shit about them using their alleged drunkeness which has no moral value in the animal world to sell product. As much as they would care about using this marketing gimmick to drive sales using murula as a skincare product instead of a food source for elephants.
Exactly. That was so lame lol
Yeah! I knew u we’re gonna go a drunk elephant video from the stats, bu Tim glad I can finally know why it’s not working for my skin. Thanks bb! (You have made me so confident in my skin and skincare)
Thank you so much for your information!
I would love you to do a video on Le Roche Posay, CeraVe or Bare Mineral products! :D The videos you produce are so helpful and informative! I love how you exert your own professional and personal opinion whilst encouraging others to take an initiative by 'turning and learning.' After suffering with eczema all my life I feel I am starting to take control of my skin and thus feel happier in the process! Thank you Cassandra
The DE owner's whole argument that all skin is the same makes no sense. So why create a plethora of products designed to target specific skin conditions and skin concerns? They have a bunch of products targeted for dull skin, acne-prone skin, dry skin, etc. but it why would they have those products if apparently, these conditions don't really exist according to the owner?? If the owner truly believed that bizarre "fact" she would've just needed to create 4-5 products period.
‘It’s not the elephants. It’s you.’ 🤣
I have sensitive acne prone skin and Marula oil itself it has been a game changer to me! As their C firma too. They might have a lot of flaws, but which brands don’t? their products are good to me and my experience with their cs 👍🏻
It’s hard to take what she says seriously when she thought Africa was a country...
Also Marula oil is NOT in all of their products. So misinformation in this video.
Yeah!! I literally made a list of issues with this video. I can’t believe people are believing every word she says :/
Thanks so much for your comment on this. If I may share a bit more of an explanation: yes, I am very aware that Africa is a continent and I am familiar with the different countries within Africa. While doing research for this video, the scientific article in the Journal of zoology specifically mentioned particular countries, within Africa, where this phenomenon was happening and research was occurring. When I was filming the video, (and having this study as a reference in my head), I said “exploiting a country”, and it wasn’t until I was editing that I realized this mistake, because although the study related to this specific area, the phenomenon is happening throughout the continent, in multiple different countries. I tried to correct this with an asterisk but I completely understand how it comes off a different way. It’s never my intention to offend others, or to try to spread misinformation. That being said, coming from America, we never even had to learn the countries in Africa. (Disposable of your ask me) That was something I did on my own later on in my educational career. I don’t blame people for looking at this brown hair, green eyed chick from America and thinking that she wouldn’t know the difference. Either way I thank you for bringing it up because it further helps to clarify things for those who may not know and opens up the much needed healthy conversation. Appreciate you!
Zinnia Roberts hey gorgeous and thank you so much for bringing this up! I’ve checked, and the Latin name for marula oil, sclerocarya birrea, is in every single one of the skin care products that I looked at. I always love to learn though! Can you please tell me which of the products do not contain sclerocarya birrea kernel oil/ marula oil?
Daria Werner Thanks so much for your comment on this. If I may share a bit more of an explanation: yes, I am very aware that Africa is a continent and I am familiar with the different countries within Africa. While doing research for this video, the scientific article in the Journal of zoology specifically mentioned particular countries, within Africa, where this phenomenon was happening and research was occurring. When I was filming the video, (and having this study as a reference in my head), I said “exploiting a country”, and it wasn’t until I was editing that I realized this mistake, because although the study related to this specific area, the phenomenon is happening throughout the continent, in multiple different countries. I tried to correct this with an asterisk but I completely understand how it comes off a different way. It’s never my intention to offend others, or to try to spread misinformation. That being said, coming from America, we never even had to learn the countries in Africa. (Disposable of your ask me) That was something I did on my own later on in my educational career. I don’t blame people for looking at this brown hair, green eyed chick from America and thinking that she wouldn’t know the difference. Either way I thank you for bringing it up because it further helps to clarify things for those who may not know and opens up the much needed healthy conversation. Appreciate you!
Great video! As a cosmetic chemist - I wanted to chime in on the cruelty-free aspect. Chemists and their regulatory team request cruelty-free international documentation from every supplier of every ingredient in their formulas. Then those documents need to be renewed every year in order to keep that status for a brand. Just because a brand is purchased by a company that is not cruelty-free, does not mean that the brand is no longer cruelty-free or will not maintain that status in the future. I actually think a brand is more likely to maintain that status with a larger company since there are more regulatory resources to maintain it - especially if the cruelty-free claim is important to the brand’s equity.
Probably the only factual thing said on this whole video- Cass is just trying to continue the hate campaign towards DE started by Hyram. It’s really unethical of her to intentionally misrepresent things.
"Because drunk elephants in Africa, right?! No..."
Dead.
Drunk Elephant is the KAREN of skin care.
I love the TLC framboos glycolic serum!!! I’m not sure I can stop because it genuinely cured my bad acne and smoothed out my skin so well! That’s the only thing I really use though. I actually also have been using the retinol and it’s pretty great. But I could change that. I’m just not sure I can give up the serum 🥴
I have many empties of that product love it
I’ve started using a few of these products and my skin has changed for the best 100%. It is like night and day.
I only knew about the negative responses and bad customer services not enough to quit buying. It is due to the prices that I may not buy them again.
Thank you for calling them out. Much love to you, Cassandra. You're very inspiring 💖
We women hold the purse strings & if we all band together we can cause them to make changes & therefore, FINALLY get women to buy their products... "If you want to go somewhere fast, go alone. If you want to go far go together!" African proverb
I've been on the fence about this brand for a while. It's nice that it's all fragrance free, but I could never get behind the prices. The ingredients are basic at best and you could get the same thing at walgreens for 1/4 of the price without all the shadiness.
Can you give some examples of drunk elephant dupes at walgreens?? That would be awesome. Thanks
Don’t do it! I fell for it and meh. Nothing special. Cerave and Palmers face oil has my skin looking the best it ever has for a fraction of the cost
@@michellemichael1676 basically the entire CeraVe brand. Can't go wrong
@@annavee6521 yeah you can every CeraVe product has given me worsened cystic acne. Many many report the same
LOL ceraVe is not in anyway a dupe for drunk elephant 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂good joke.
It’s not exploiting the myth considering it’s targeted demographic won’t even consider looking up the meaning behind the brand
And who is their targeted demographic? Do tell
The ranting about the name makes no sense to me, now you can only name your company with a real name? Protecting the animals because they can do it themselves is irrelevant here. How na king your brand hurting the animal?
Guess we have to still to generic boring names that won't "exploit" the world where we ALL live. 😄 So silly.
I so agree. Who cares about the name?
She wasn't ranting about the name. She was just sharing where it came from and dispelling a myth.
@@cfrost87 wrong. She was definitely ranting lol.
@@eboulter I seriously doubt even she cares about the name. But she needed an excuse to get on her morally self righteous soapbox 🙄.
Yet, their products are THE BEST.❤️🍷🐘
Exactly lol
Just ordered some and will keep ordering it!!
As an esty, someone should explain how someone who isn't a derm or an etsy, is a skincare specialist, what are hyrams qualifications to be a skincare specialist?
I saw Hyram’s video last year, so I’ve never purchased any of DE’s products (not that they’re really in my budget), but you added more information to the story that I did not know. Thank you, Cassandra!
The products also don’t work, their hydrating serum feels like alcohol in your skin
Over the course of one meeting/webinar with the founder, she seemed so dispassionate about the brand. Like, you could tell she wasnt in it for anything other than the potential money. From not being transparent about their "donations" and straight up telling us that "We dont have any connection to Africa" when asked how she chose the idea and name for the brand (yeesh). Her answer for many things too, when questioned about ingredients and name ideas, she said, straight faced, "I went on to google and just translated things into a different language".
I'd like to think that theres a difference between brands born out of passion and then brands like this.
I appreciate everyones views but I love their products and will continue to purchase them. I have a hard time finding products that work for my skin and spent years searching for products that work as well as DE does for me.
I think that’s reasonable though! It’s really hard to find the right regimen for your skin, so if you found it with DE and don’t mind the prices, that’s great. When it comes down to it, we are all trying to find what works best for us.
I agree. Take all the drama out that people are creating and all you have left is a superb skin care line. I can say that some of the things she said arent all factual anyways
There really are products that work as well as DE at lower prices. But if you can afford DE, you do you. 🍀
@@adylaar6708 Ive tried a few dupes but they just didnt work as well for my skin
Most of us spend a small fortune trying to find products that work, and even then they don't always work together. The thing I love about DE is their products are designed to work together without any contradictions or irritation (for the majority). I use their TLC FRAMBOOISE GLYCOLIC NIGHT SERUM, B Hydra Serum, Jelly Cleanser and Umbra Tinte SPF. I tried to find dupes for 2 years and couldn't. Once I finish the stash of moisturizers, I might get Protini or La La. I really loved those moisturizers!
I love that elephant mug at the beginning of your video!!!
spill that tea !!
I’m glad you bought it up as I had reaction I had clear skin no ache nothing took me months to get my skin the way it is today! The way they spoke to me was disgusting I wouldn’t even give it to friends so over £300 quid went straight in the bin!
As a South African born girl I hate to break it to you but drunk elephants are real. The marula fruit falls from the trees, then ferments in the sun. Because of the elephant’s size they have to eat a LOT, but it does happen.. it happens frequently with monkeys/baboons though.
I’m sorry but where did the whole “silicones are deadly” thing came from? I get that some people don’t like it in their hair conditioner, fine. What is wrong with silicon in a moisturizer?
@Serein Serenity that’s true. I just don’t understand the whole thing about silicons specifically are going to hurt you, not what they can trap in your skin (which is true of all occlusive ingredients)
There's actually nothing wrong with silicones in skincare. They are simply occlusive ingredients that trap moisture in your skin therefore they do benefit your skin by decreasing the transepidermal water loss. They're no worse than any other occlusive ingredients. Actually they're great for oily skin because they're very light and breathable. Obviously they may trigger acne for some people but so everything else can. The plastic wrap thing is a common myth that comes from 'natural/organic' skincare philosophy.
Love your videos!!!
Hi Cassandra, as you mention several times infringing the patent of Skin Ceutical CE Ferulic, are you should it did not expire yet? I heard about very good dupes due to the expiration of patent, but again I did not research it. It’s just heard on the YT. Thanks for the brand review. Always appreciated.
Please please please do a “dupes for TLC” type of video soon please. I really only tried 2 products from D.E. & the TLC I loved. I don’t want to support them but I can’t find anything as good as their TLC. SOS
sonia valencia their products are really good. I’m not giving anything up. I don’t like how they handle their business but their products have cleared my skin.
If do you like it, it works for you and have the money to invest (skincare is an investment) go ahead and continue using the TLC. Sometimes I have spent more money trying dupes than buying the DE product. We should use what is effective for our skin.
We need more videos like this. Thank you
Too expensive for me, but i still would love to try that vitamin c +e + ferulic that i think hotandflashy uses a lot
This is going to sound selfish.. but their products have been working on my skin and I don’t want to cut it based on whatever their morals are , i don’t care i just want a healthy skin and products that does the job , many brands are testing on animals and have never gotten a backlash however i’ll avoid it if they started testing on animals 🙅🏻♀️
I was thinking of getting Drunk Elephant, no more....Thank you!
I just tried a sample of their Sunshine Drops and had a major reaction 😞😞 I’ve got sore spots everywhere (even my neck because I blended it down). So.. definitely not for all sensitive skin...!!! I hear you!
Hyram has told me. Glad the message is getting spread
Can you do the truth about The Ordinary?
Maybe talk about the intense chemical burns they've caused and lawsuits.
Maybe talk about the arguments theyve gotten into online.
Please.
She can't. She's probably paid by them.
The world of beauty is full of so many not so beautiful ingredients, behaviours and practices. I’m so over the stories created by the marketing and PR agencies hired by beauty companies to create a brand image that appeals to our values so they can sell, sell, sell. Even those that may start with the right intentions often go south. What I’d really like to know is whether Drunk Elephant is now made in China? It made a big story of being made in the US. Have searched high and low for a statement from Shiseido rejecting this, but can’t find one. Why is there silence about this? Also some of Drunk Elephant’s products are not vegan, given they’re derived from animals.
Yay! Hyram mention!! 🎉
That’s so sad to hear… despite all the drama I had the most beautiful skin using some DE products.
Same!!
This was super informative. Thank you for all your research! I received a sample of some of their products, and they didn’t seem like anything special to me, certainly not worth the high price tag. But I had no idea about this whole back story. Wow!
Last year, the former founder of Deciem (now deceased) had posted a dig at the CEO of Drunk Elephant over the overpriced marula oil they were selling months before his death. Of course, we know that the Ordinary had its own version of marula oil which was way cheaper. I think that in all honesty, the overpricing of products to give the illusion of its goodness is misleading to the consumer public,not to mention outright stupid. Some of their products are generally good from a dermatological point of view as I have read, and I have used one or two of them too. However, I still cannot get past their bad attitude towards their customers online, and their overpricing of products.
You're doing God's work Cassandra lol, thank you so much for being so informative
She's not informative. At all. She's a drama queen. And her fake outrage is hilarious.
i've been waiting for so long for this video 🥳🥳
Cassandra I want to thank you for your research your wealth of information. Your inner beauty and helping us with our outer beauty. You are a wonderful breath of fresh air. These videos ROCK!!
Expensive too. Can’t afford them anyway
I’m extremely leery of super expensive products. It’s absolutely ridiculous how much they charge for some skin care products. Especially when the ingredients are not expensive. I’ll be 44 this year. Now I’m into skin care always have been. But in all honesty I can flat out say I know it’s my genetics, I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. We age differently than others... if I were to say oh my god this cream is awesome you should use it, keep your skin useful and tight. I’ll be doing that person a disservice. Another thing I can’t stand in the skin care room they always choose people that are young and have superb skin. And God for bid if they don’t put a Botox penned up cut up sliced up diced up woman that’s an elder for their skin care line...
Honestly, their products are no better than the best products at the pharmacy. 🍵🍵🍵
Wow, I didn't know this about Drunk Elephant. Thank you for speaking about it.
I've also struggled with acne and skin sensitivity and was so excited for DE to be available in Australia, as soon as Mecca launched this brand I bought almost everything that was available at the time, including TLC serum, hydra B serum, both soaps and also received a deluxe sample of C- Firma serum recently. I wanted to love these products so bad but each one caused the same reaction, small red bumps all over my face filled with something that looked just like water but I'm not entirely sure what it was. I've tried each product multiple times because I didn't want to believe that the reaction I was getting was from DE products, but sure enough I've reacted each time and as soon as I would stop using those products my skin would heal withing a few days. The only few products that didn't cause a reaction was c-tango under eye cream and soaps, however I've noticed my skin texture got a lot worse when I was using soaps and my skin also was all over the place, so I stopped using soaps too. Also after watching this video I don't feel like purchasing c-tango cream ever again, even though I loved it but price is just too high - it's $93 AUD or something ridiculous like this.
Thank you again for the video 💖
Great video! Drunk Elephant has a true cult following....or maybe it's just a cult 😬 Anywho, everything I've ever tried (only ever sampled, never purchased) has left me underwhelmed.
I really REALLY hope this becomes widespread knowledge! I almost bought a couple DE products at the Sephora sale but came across their unprofessionalism just in time!
You're seriously offended that she named her brand Drunk Elephant? Wow. That just seems really nitpicky.
It’s their opinion, and it’s okay, it’s probably just her and a few others.
@@dawnstarrunsonpawz it’s stupid
I had the worst experience with this product. DO NOT BUY. I'm now having to deal with a burning rash around both my eyes..hopefully in a few weeks it will be healed. I'm regretting not seeing these videos earlier!!!
Love it!! Please do one on Some By Mi too. I want to purchase their products, but I am so nervous. I have very sensitive skin. I'm using The Ordinary's products to help my acne and acne scars. I heard Some By Mi is great, but I'm afraid to use "too" many products on my skin.
“Bullshit and elephant shit”. ♥️✨😂