Some Fisherman Are JERKS and GOOGANS (BAD LAKE ETIQUETTE)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2020
- Bad lake etiquette is becoming more common. We got a dose of this over the weekend from a fisherman being a googan aka jerk. Don't be a jerk on the water! Don't be a googan on the lake! Don't be that fisherman with bad lake etiquette. Please. • Some Fisherman Are JER...
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There’s definitely a unwritten fisherman’s code. An he definitely broke some rules! Didn’t expect that from a elderly gentleman.
Ya we were surprised.
You guys are a class act don't let one idiot ruin your day. You handled that very well.
Thanks Frank!
I hate it, when I'm bank fishing and a googan sees me catch a decent fish. They just move in on you and set up camp, all around you.
Ya that's the splashing fish pattern. I don't get it. They should just move on and find their own fish!
I had a guy I posted a video of about a year ago that did the exact same thing and proceeded to say there is room for both of us in that one spot...
His opinion only!
I too am a very Passive person, but this season we've had some moments that made me get verbal. Etiquette is definitely at the wayside anymore.
Most of the time I let it slide.
Mind blowing. You guys reacted entirely appropriately, probably more reserved than a lot of people would have been. That dude was out of line, plain and simple. It's not opening day at the trout park. There's absolutely no reason on a big lake that anyone should ever get remotely within casting distance of another boat, and the person who moved their boat in to create the situation is just wrong.
Agree 100%
Crap like that is one of the main reasons I don't fish that lake anymore. Good job keeping your cool, I know I wouldn't have.
By the way, somehow this is the first video I've seen of yours. Won't be the last though, I just subscribed.
Thanks. Glad I was in a good mood that day!t
@@TheWeekendAngler Thanks for the Sub. Really appreciate it!
On this side of the state the act of pulling up where someone else is fishing is called "chumping." Worst thing ever is to be fishing towards the bank and a pack of yahoos on jet skis see you but still run between your boat and the bank. Keeping 500 or so yards from other anglers is always a good idea. Don
Chumping. That's a proper phrase! I like the 500 yard rule. I usually just pass by and fish another area. Jet skies are crazy.
You two were calmer than a lot of folks would have been, some would even start casting to hit their boat. That indeed was very rude of them to encroach into your casting area, and you two had every right to object.
Thanks RWA
Happen to me bankfishing yesterday. I explained that you just don't walk up in front of them and start fishing their spot. The invader didn't understand the logic of manners and etiquette and fishing courtesy. Some people only understand violence. It may have been how their daddy explained things to them; with an a**whupping!
Yup. I think most of the time it goes back to how you were raised.
That guy is a "REGULAR" on lake of Egypt. My buddy and I were Spot Locked, fishing a point. He pulled up very close, stopped and started casting toward where we were fishing. He acted like we were invisible. Neither one of us said anything. Not wanting to get aggravated, I just moved.
Wow. You're the first person that has told me they recognized him. I was hoping he would've learned a lesson.
Have had to block boats constantly while fishing that island and if you back off an inch they move right in on you. It's quite frustrating I know sorry you had to deal with that. That lake is frustrating because it's so heavily fished for its size on top of joy boaters.
That's a popular spot. Thanks Dale.
What is everyone’s opinion on the distance you should stay away from other fishing boats?
You both handled it great and you got your point across. I probably would have pulled up the TM and gave them the spot after I did a victory lap around his boat.
On the ledge lakes it's common for people to fish real close to each other but on smaller lakes I think 100 yards is fair.
I have had that happen more there than any other lake! No respect anymore......sad!!!
Yup
I’ve searched and watched about 20 videos too find the proper distance to drive by or fish to another. Haven’t found the answer yet
Typically when a person can cast into your boat you are to close. It depends on the lake. Ledge lakes are notorious for people fishing close to each other. If I feel like I'm going to be infringing on another persons stretch I won't fish it. Kind of a gut feeling. I say to myself " How would you feel if someone started fishing this close to you?" If I see someone casting or fishing an area I don't get between them and the spot, I'll go around. Just common sense. 75- 100 yards is a good rule of thumb.
Late to the party on this one but just two weekends ago I had an issue on Egypt. Me and my partner are in jon boat fishing a pretty small cove. Someone on their bass boat comes flying in to the opposite end of the cove and wakes pretty hard. Then proceeds to start fishing the opposite direction and then fishes between us and the bank....about lost it.
Geez. Those people are out there. I just try to brush it off and not let it get in my head. Sometimes though..........
Was bank fishing once and a guy came up next to me and proceeded to throw a cast net...some people's kids man.(applies to young and old) 😂
Geez!
I have rarely been cut off but normally its crappie fisherman in pontoon boats. I have had a bass boat pull up on a point while i was fishing it. He cussed me out for being there. Need less to say the next time he saw me i was running barely on plane between him and the point.
Geez
We have that happen at a local tournament this year. We got to a bank that we wanted to fish and a boat decided to cut in front of us 10 yards from where we started. Know the feeling.
Seems like it's all to common. Frustrating.
Had the same thing happen to me looks like the same boat and guy we were crappie fishing he pulled up within 10 ft with his gas motor while we were jigging a brush pile moved on to the next brush pile 30 ft away from us and started fishing
Crazy. I wonder if it was the same guy. I hope he learns something from this.
@@TheTinHorseMonty I hope so I don't know if it was the same guy. Boat looked the same but who knows
Obviously, it's not right. I've had it happen to me as well. Thank you for keeping your cool as best you could. Most fisherman respect others and won't crowd in on you but some are self-centered and don't care about others. They put self first. They will reap what they sow.
Thanks Steve!
I actually got a g-mail account just to comment on this. When I was just a little guy learning how to fish, my dad and I were setup at a small inlet to Lake Erie. My dad was pretty much doing the catching and letting me bring in what he caught. We had a decent spot near a bridge. There was nobody else but us. Honestly, nobody. Then this middle to older age guy walked off the bank and set his stuff down literally 12 yards from us. My dad just stared at the guy for a minute. Then he took the bigger catfish rod he had setup and said “well Josh, it’s about time you learn how to cast.” After my second or third attempt, that jagoff picked his gear, muttered something under his breath and pouted after he walked away. Some adults need court appointed parents, man...
LOL Great story and well said!!!!
First come first serve I mean y'all were there first so y'all were totally in the right
Definitely Luke. I just keep going if I see someone on a spot.
@@TheTinHorseMonty i mean like dude said and he should've taken his own advice. When he said there's a whole lake here.
@@lukehuffman6126 That's right!
You guys had a whole lake to fish. Mommy wouldn't let him go any further...lol.
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I hate that s**t man... i had a guy do the same thing. I was on a school of fish in a tournament and they road up on the side of us and I could have put my A Rig in the dudes boat. Naw bro he's too close. If you can sling a bait and put it next to a boat its too close man. I agree with yall!
Agree 100%
Should have made your cast directly into their boat! If they said something then youd just reply "Man that just means youre to close to us!"
LOL
Lots of anglers from Illinois have no etiquette. Had several of my worse experiences with “IL” behind their boat numbers.
Sorry to hear that. It's frustrating when you run across a disrespectful fisherman on the water. Hopefully things will change as more and more people have cameras on their boats and expose the "RUDENESS"!
What a Maroon!! If there is a whole lake to fish then find a spot other fisherman aren't fishing!!! What has happened to common courtesy and respect on the water. Good thing he didn't to my buddy I fish with. Something would have happened for sure. LOL Thanks for sharing
Alot more people on the water lately. Hunting has been the same way. Never thought id see literally too many people in the woods and on the water. It ruined alot of days for me. Makes me wanna move to a different state. And i live on the great lakes. Which says alot about that statement. Im all for expansion of our sports, its needed. But why is it so so popular these days?
exactly! Thanks Hank!
@@Notmyname-co5sc It's good that more people are getting outdoors but unfortunately it crowds the folks that have been outdoors for years. I didn't realize hunting was the same way.
I've had it happen more times from kayakers than anything.
There are a ton of kayaks on Cedar now.
Get in a kayak and see how much respect you get from boaters. I fish boat and kayak txs, kayaks get cut off waaaaay more than boaters.
Never underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of people
Well said.
My hat off to you and jerryfor keeping your cool. the go pro doesn't show how really close they were. I would give them one chance, ONLY ONE CHANCE, then i would calmly trolled over to their boat and showered them with love and kindness :-) I heading there this Friday i hope this doesn't happen to me. Keep the great videos coming
Think I mighta showered them with a prop roost.
Thanks Mario!
Lake of Egypt again.
Yes
It's one of the toughest things to keep your cool in situations like that.. good thing you were fishing, you could always resort to punching the grass instead 😄Good job buddy!
Deep breaths brother!
@@TheTinHorseMonty Agreed buddy!
You were right, he was wrong. I was always taught if I was trolling to always go around.
Same here Jimmy. You were taught right.
Awesome
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That happened with you and I on Kentucky bfl that high school boat came between where we were fishing
Yup. I remember that. They pulled within 30 feet of us. Totally cut us off on a ledge.
Hey Gabe I was on Egypt Wednesday till about noon but it looks like you were up closer to the dam. Did pretty good between 6 and 8AM. I notice alot rude behavior on the ramps on many lake.
Ya Marj we were near the dam.
Great video first off and y’all handled it the Correct way but as soon as he would have said you have a whole lake you can fish I would have probably had a few choice words!! but keep up the hard work guys and TightLines
Thanks Sooner!
I have seen many worse situations on Carlyle and Coffeen Lakes. Normally its bass tournament guys who think they have priority over everyone else!
A little respect goes a long way!
Wow that from that generation Iv never seen ... young kids yes ... me an kido had some young guys in a canoe with a outboard on it motor so close to our boat while we are fishing the kid pushed off the side of our boat... no jk ... I didn’t even know what to say was just dumbfounded and shocked.
Geez. What can you say?
Kentucky lake is notorious for this type of rudeness. Back in the ledge fishing hay days, it was common for anglers to pull in and you could almost step in their boat . Tournament fishermen are the worst. I’m a old timer. I fished tournaments in the late 70’s and through the 80’s. It was common courtesy to not get close to another fisherman. It didn’t matter if they were panfishing…
Yup. I've seen some crazy things on Kentucky Lake. Most ledge lakes get that way. Thanks for checking out the video.
That guy was lucky that you and Jerry are nice guys, there is a standard!
Thanks Jeff.
Man, that's real rude. I don't understand why people act that way.
I think some people haven't been called out. Maybe he will learn something. Maybe.
The Tin Horse Monty hopefully bud.
@@jonmorrisskates yup
No comment on that fool, you guys should great composure. Now on a more serious note...you have some white braid on your spinning combo...do you like that? Do you think it's an advantage over yellow or red?
Thanks David. I bought some of the Berkley Nano Fill? a while back to test it out. It's OK. I still prefer the hi vis yellow. Not sur if the white has any advantage. Seems a little stiffer that the Power Pro
Definitely didn’t over-react! I’ve casted past guys in front of their boat and pushed the button. When that trolling motor wads up with fishing line they got their work cut out for them.
Probably wouldn’t have done that to an old guy but ya never know.
LOL
You guys handled it perfectly. Even though he's in the wrong, these type situations are the ones that can end real bad.. we had some people do the same thing there during a tournement this past spring. I just pulled up the trolling motor and left. It wasent worth getting in a pissing match over it..
Sometimes that's the best thing to do!
Well now you bass guys know how it feels when you blow right through my lines as I'm bank fishing. Karma's a bitch.
Hey brother that's not something I've ever done. I'm sorry that's happened to you but I go way around a bank fisherman.
During covid spring if 2020 it happened all the time. It's hard to stay calm.
Yes there were a lot of new folks on the water. I guess it's a lesson in empathy LOL
I had the same thing happen to me table rock lake this guy motored thirty yards from me I just hammered down and left
Geez. Hopefully he got the point.
I am sooooo happy it wasn’t my dad….was afraid it was gonna be once I saw the title & lead in. But I will defend the guy…..hear me out. Egypt is a gem of a lake. Guys who work their whole lives to retire on a lake don’t always know the “etiquette” of fishing. They don’t know….most of them boys fish boat to boat every day. To him, you were not following the etiquette of his pond……because he doesn’t know any better. Feel free to message me & I will gladly explain further. Should he have done it?? No. Should you be butt hurt because of it?? No. You gotta understand the water you are on……..Egypt is not a public lake.
LOL Glad it wasn't your dad too. All valid points you make. I can understand a young person not knowing any better but I'm pretty sure he knew what he was doing. Whether it's private or public, Etiquette is etiquette. I'm not trying to be brash n I do appreciate your feedback. Have a great week.
When i lived on the east coast id but on a big 8 oz. sinker and hit that boat over and over. first come first serve.
LOL
Glad you guys kept your cool. Thank goodness they didn’t pull that on a tournament day.
No kidding!
I am a guide on Seminole see this more than I care to..pros and every day fisherman..I always reply kindly I will pray for you..If they ask why?? Tell them thay are going blind..have a blessed day..
LOL That's a great way to handle it. Tight lines Randy. Never fished Seminole.
I've actually stepped into a guys boat before and punched him in the mouth after an altercation like this but he escalated it got close after I was there fishing catching crappie for at least 30 minutes then tried to run me off and I stood my ground
Wow!! Crazy story. I need to hire you as a body guard!
@@TheTinHorseMonty haha that's funny but thankfully I've never had another encounter quite like that and I'm an easy going guy just love fishing
Wow! That was Pretty surprising. I think you guys showed great composure considering his ridiculous Comments.
As a young dirty foot fishing saltwater piers in South Florida of you came over our lines I would have put a target on your boat and started slinging 8oz bank sinkers at your hull.
I can tell you as a new kayaker there is a level of ignorance with some situations, but simple communications usually solve most problems for me on the water.
There is also a ton of lack of respect for ones fishing area whether on the bank or the water.
Some people are just CHODES.
How do we fix this? There has to be a way too ok build a bridge between anglers. Or do we set the bridge on 🔥? Cheers to you guys for your patience.
I saw white braid on your reel?Was that Berkeley Nano braid? What’s your thoughts on the white?
Good luck on Pickwick!! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
I love the word CHODE!!! Ya that was Nano braid. I like Power Pro hi vis Yellow better. The Nano is a little stiff. It handle well tho.
Lots of idiots out there. Had a similar incident a few weeks ago. Seems to be more prevalent now then it was in the past. A lot of new and returning anglers on the water as a result of the pandemic. They need a refresher on giving other anglers adequate space. No one wants someone fishing right next to them.
Couldn't agree more. Sometimes it really tests your patience.
I don’t blame y’all a bit for being pissed. It’s just common curtesy to not cut people off or keep more distance than ya should so someone can’t ever say anything. That guy should be ashamed of himself. I see someone in an area it’s just second nature don’t even put a thought into it that I’m gonna go fish that area. Maybe later if the guy leaves but not while he is there. It hard for me to believe the guy comes in on yas and mouths off about the bait hitting him lol.
I'm the same way Shawn. If I see someone on a spot I just move on. He was pretty close.
THAT FELLOW WAS AN A-HOLE YA'LL DID BETTER THAN I WOULD HAVE. JB
Lol....I liked it and aint even seen the vid yet.
LOL
I have ZERO patience for people like that. Had the exact same thing happen to me a few times. One GOOGAN got to hear how a 3/4 oz. Carolina Rig weight sounds against aluminum. He moved on after that.
That'll learn him.
Monty milt here I would have words with those clowns you have a hooo then there those clowns milt
Agree Milt
I had that done to me at kinkaid
Seems to be more common than it used to be.
Ha! Just saw this I just said something about this to you on messenger
Yup
I agree with you 100% on the boat coming in the second passenger that didn't say anything to you guys put his poles down most likely embarrassed but your comment about him calling him coward or cowarded down wasn't real cool
I'm glad that day is behind me.
That was not googan squad
No but the guy was a Googan. Googan just means a disrespectful fisherman. The Googan Squad is something different. Nothing against those guys.
Yep, disrespectful.
Thanks Rick
Some people are simply entitled tools!
Agree. I love the word tool. Thanks for keeping it alive!!
Googanism at its finest...more like worst🤬
Yes sir!
Unfortunately that happens a lot . KY lake is really bad , Jerry had a right to be ticked off, that guy probably when home and his wife how rude this guy was on the lake. They just don't get it or they just don't care.
Ya. Some folks don't get it!
First of all the guys in the other boat were more mad that you could hit them with a lure but they couldn't hit you LOL AND what kind of fisherman has only ONE spot to fish? They can't go the their second spot? That guy must of caught a few good fish right there and thinks its the only spot on the lake to fish. When I see someone in one of my fav spots, I just go on by to my second and come back when their gone. BUT...not after I do a couple of donuts around their boat...HAHA Just Kidding ;-) But the real problem here is, he still doesn't think he did anything wrong. I'll be he did it again the following week to someone else. But he might want to pull up next to some Blue Hairs who can't cast as far LOL
I think that guy just does that all the time and nobody calls him out. I'm just like you, if someone is fishing a spot I just move on. There's plenty of other spots. And ya he acted like he was doing nothing wrong. ARG!
this stuff happens more and more it seems ,,,,, as a side note Jerry did a lot of talking in this episode
Possibly the most commentary by Jerry in a video LOL
Freakin people are ridiculous, I like to throw a-rigs towards those guys.
LOL
You reacted fine. Your area was infringed on. I know people that would have been much more verbally aggressive then you two where. The only time I expect that is when you fish the big bass bash. Not to have someone pull right up next to you but there are so many boats your going to cross each other's paths. I have had no problem them everyone knows it is going happen
I'm with you Mike on the BBB. It's a free for all. Just expect it.
I would've taken an egg sinker with no hook and nailed that guy. Lol. Jk. But I would've wanted to. Lol. I think you guys did the right thing by trying to stay calm and collective. It is very difficult to try and tolerate a**holes like that. I have experienced similar situations before with older and younger people on the water. One time I remember, I was on Cedar and an older man and woman, probably around 60 or 70 years old, came through where I was fishing with his outboard opened up while my line was in the water. I guess he didn't want to waste time, gas, and money to go an extra 20 yds around me. Or I guessed that he thought me being younger, that I owed him something? Idk nor did I care at that moment. They did the same thing though, barely a glance. They knew what they were doing and what they got away with, but, hopefully karma come back on them. The problem is with those type of people, they will never understand why that karma happened to them. They remind me of certain drivers on the road that truly think they are the only ones on the road. Okay... rant over. Lol. But you guys did do it the right way. You stood your ground without getting too upset. Even though, I'm sure you guys were plenty upset. You just can't fix stupid, ignorant, selfish people. Until next time. Good luck and stay safe.
That guy was an ass wagon. In Mass that is illegal to interrupt fishing or hunting. He would get a fine or arrested.
Way too close and he was forcing his way into the spot.
Yup. He knew what he was doing.
Hey bro I don't know how you kept your cool it's unbelievable how rude people are I mean what is wrong with these people. That was totally uncalled for what was this guy blind. The excuses this guy was giving you I'm sorry bud but that guy was a asshole. He did that on purpose. And you guys handled that great. I would have blew my stack disrespectful moron. I wish you guys would have hit him in the head with the lure . I mean is that what it really takes. I didn't hear you you know guys sometimes you think people are on drugs doing something like that. Ps hey Tim horse Monty I subscribed to your channel I really enjoyed that swimjig video I saw The other day. God bless you and your family.
Thanks for subscribing Michael. Luckily I haven't had a run in with any dis respectful fishermen in a while. I think having a camera in the boat helps. God Bless you too.
You’re nicer than me!
LOL Sometimes it's hard to bite my tongue
@@TheTinHorseMonty don’t hesitate, some guys need it. As long as it’s at least somewhat civil. Great channel btw🙌🏼😎
Tighten your drag :)
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Yes
Probably thought yall should have stayed your asses in MO
Y’all did better than me I would’ve did something way worst
I hope he will learn something from this video. If he even hears about it!
So I’m confused why you put googan?
Google " Definition of Googan"
i think its flairs grandpa that was in that boat
Jack Wampler where does that assumption come from?
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Googan refers to a rogue fisherman: A fishing term for lowlife, shore fishermen who bait fish typically without a license, regard to regulations, and etiquette towards other people, especially other fishermen following the rules. Example: “I couldn't find a spot at the river yesterday.
@@juicyjonah2271just an educated guess
You challenge their integrity and they couldn't answer the challenge. The way you guys handled the situation would be welcome in politics, but you can throw that idea out the window nowadays. Treble hooks to the left ear is more suitable for standing one's ground in todays environment. You can't challenge what a person is lacking, integrity!!!
Well said.
Extremely rude
Yup
Clickbait
Just hoping the guy will see the video and learn something.
Yes I've had that happen, sometimes I'm ready to leave anyway and don't need the sore knuckles! But I also have put the trolling motor on the bank, and said let's throw down now buddy! Glad you're cool-headed. I'm amped up just watching the damn video. would like to know who the hell that ole boy is! just go over and give him a lesson one day when I'm even in a pissy or move
LOL Sorry the video got you fired up Scott!! When I get older I'll probably get grumpy n have a few words with theses types at some point
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