Interestingly straight review. I have an Enduro model and after fiddling with it a bit I really like it. I have not experienced the starter issue but thanks for the heads up. The OEM shocks are shocking, I have Andreani cartridges up front and M Shock rear, a huge improvement, expensive but worth every penny, (my feet scrape regularly on corners now). I have fat bars that are slightly lower than OEM and an awesome termignoni 2into1 exhaust. On B roads it is fantastic, I can now scare sportsbike riders. A roads are good too it's just when you get onto dual carriageways that the fun begins to wane due to the sit up and beg riding position and wind. I hope that you read this because there is a ridiculously easy (and cheap) fix for the snatchy throttle, (it used to really p me off). You need a couple of 33mm (diameter) washers, with a 19mm hole x 3mm thick. Take the handle bar mounts off and put the washers between the bar mounts and the top yoke. Firms everything up and no more throttle snatch. No, I didn't believe it either but it works! Top review man.
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try. It is a crackin little bike on the right road, had to wrestle the keys out of my dad's hand last time I lent it to him.
@@RarefiedRoad The stock bike will do 0-60 in 4.1 seconds 5 min 48 (timed) ua-cam.com/video/BQFx54Az9B4/v-deo.html The electronics are not Italian either ... they are German (Bosch) and any problems with them can be placed in Thailand (assembly). The throttle is not snatchy post-2016. Mine is the 2017 throttle and mapping. You brought a 2015 model which is the first year before all the teething issues were ironed out. If you like the bike (I do) you will dump all the cheap stock suspension etc ... and upgrade the clutch (I use Barnet spring and plate kit) - footpegs - levers - exhaust (throw the CAT put and lose 7.9 kg) and if you are really into the bike (I am) you will put BST carbon fibre rims on and lose another chunk of weight! *I get 0-60 in 3.6 seconds* The version I ended up with after the custom work ... ua-cam.com/video/EyMiZjRYoO4/v-deo.html
I have always stayed away from Ducati's because of electrical issues. I now find myself looking at the 800 as a possibility. I've ridden bikes for 53 years to this point and don't want to quit. I switched from standards to a Cruser and don't like the riding position at all. I got rid of my Z900RS Kawasaki because of the seat height and the throttle mapping was terrible. I loved the power delivery (reminded me of my old GS1100E) and handling. I want a light bike that can do easy dirt and has a flat seat about 31 inches. The Ducati Scrambler might just fit the bill.
Having worked with avionics of helicopters and airliners for 25 years I would not call a faulty dead switch bad Italian electronics. The ironi given you are from England and English cars including Jags over the years is extreme.
Not a bad video man. I enjoyed it. I don't have the expendable income I had when I was young and single but I am looking for something fun to ride. I need to get back on a bike again. I have always loved Ducati and these little things seem fun for shorter rides on the weekend and back and forth to work.
I wonder if the new Ducatis have upped their fueling game as of late? Having a heck of a time deciding between a 2021 v7 or Street Twin. I go back and forth having owned an air cooled Scramy and a v9 Bobber.
why you would not recommend it as commuter apart from that its not comfortable in wet and cold? I like Ducati , unfortunately they dont make anything similar to Hayabusa to serve me as main ride. So was thinking of getting this as ( cheapish) second bike as funkster / commuter in/ around the city.
I had the same problem with the ignition switch, g$ddamn thing cut out and stalled the bike with no warning. Ended up replacing it. Only other issue is the engine heat if your diving around town and have to stop at lights. Scary hot.
Excellent review as usual. Funny you have had electrical issues, my M900 (1995) never let me down in the 4 years I had it (2015 - 2019) and yet my friends 2015 1200 Monster let him down on at least three occasions. I really miss the M900 and thought your comment about feeling like a Michelin man was very accurate, they are small bikes. When I sold the Duke I bought a BMW S1000r brand new in 2019, amazing bike that is now up for sale since I feel like a passenger rather than a rider, cannot connect with it. In the meantime I bought an XJR1300 (2004) to play with, it's like trying to hustle your favourite sofa. However I want to update her, you know upside forks, flat slide carbs, K&N, decent brakes and if the money stretches' from the bmw sale maybe some carbon fibre wheels. Because man she could do with losing some weight!
I’m buying one at the moment and it will be used for a 32 mile commute most of the year round so thanks for pissing on my chips😢 Tbf most of my ride is rural, not many traffic lights or particularly heavy traffic. Having had two monsters previously I’m sure I’ll cope
Your Scrambler looks great specially with that Mivv can. Test road one a couple of years ago but to be honest I'm a big Monster fan and the Scrambler didn't quite do it for me. Cheers RR great review as always.
So the electric fault was just a starter switch? Might it have been related to you changing the handlebars? Nice review, i considered a scrambler but went for the Monster 696 instead.
How tall are you? Im going to be looking at one on Sunday. They look small in pictures but Ive seen them ride past me in person and they look quit big. Im 5'11.
I know I’m a bit late to the party on this but I was just looking at the mirror, I think it might be a conero 2, could be wrong but it looks pretty close to me.
I had one and managed to fix the throttle with one of those coke bottle/vintage fatty grips from norman hyde. That with a 7/8 M bars were very lovely at the time. Heard that there is a G2 throttle tamer for it as well. BUT, what I really want to know is: What else do you think is gives you over the 800 S2R? Apart from the looks and ABS, I think the monster is a smoother, less snatchy bike... reliability must be in the same ballpark as well. regards
That's a great review, I think my sights are set on this bike, with my eyes opened on the fact it will be less than ideal as a commuter. Kind of fancy the 'mastering it' or getting used to it, with the bonus that it's a great fit for surrey hills blasts.
A very honest review but you made far to many apologies, at the end of the day it is what it is, a Ducati and in my 30+ years of riding I have very rarely come across a reliable one, either new or otherwise. Don't get me wrong, Ducati make some fantastic and beautiful bikes but there always seems to be that nagging doubt about the electrics somewhere on the machine. I do however like the panniers you have on yours, the frame is so unobtrusive and yet so practical. Thanks again for the review but I will be sticking with my Japanese bikes for a while yet. 😉
To the Griso this is more reliable hands down but to the V7 my personal experience is that the Moto Guzzi was better. Once I sorted the ignition problem out though they're about the same for reliability in all honesty.
@@RarefiedRoad Thank you for the insight. I was mainly wondering about this due to the reliability of my 2020 Moto Morini Corsaro ZZ being pretty close to what I always dismissed as Italian stereotypes/prejudices. So far I have had: - Coolant leaks in basically every hose and from the thermostat house (one is still ongoing since they don't have a replacement hose and no ETA). - 3 blinkers break off. - Had a mirror just break off while I was drying it with a towel. - Gone through 3 batteries. - Had to replace the dash since it was full of water after some rain. - Had the entire licence plate holder break off while I was riding on the highway. And this for a 20k € bike, kind of hurts. But I do like the look of a Guzzi or a Ducati, so did not want to write off all Italian bikes because of this :).
There's something strange about this bike. I've never been into motorcycles, but there's just something about the design of this thing that's so alluring, I'm starting to consider to get a bike license just to get this specific bike. And hearing it's nice for beginners, I might do just that.
Nice one. One of the best reviews of the scrambler I've seen. I've never really liked the scrambler, it kinda looks too toy like and I'm not a fan of its lines. Mind you, it's the first time I've seen the looks of a bike drastically improved by fitting panniers....so I'm thinking it must be the lines of the seat/rear end I don't like.
@@aunoates6617 maybe he says it because it is. And just because someone says something, it doesn't mean it's copyright, otherwise we couldn't have mentioned Italian electrics for the past 50 years!
This is a good honest review of your bike but not really a fair review of the current Ducati Scrambler which has had multiple upgrades from the old model. For instance, there is no longer any problem whatsoever with the throttle control. The suspension is different, the clutch is now hydraulic, and improvements have been made to the electronics such as gear indicator, fuel gauge and connectivity etc. You’ve got me nervous about breaking down now even though I’ve had 8,500 completely trouble free miles so far 😀
Good to know, I wasn't aware they'd improved that much with the new one. And honestly I'm sure yours won't break down, I mean I wouldn't bet my house on it but I'm pretty sure 😁
@@RarefiedRoad Yes, they look almost exactly the same but even the subframe has differences and anyone ordering luggage like yours will have to make sure they order the right part or may find that some products aren’t available for the newer bike at all!
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Interestingly straight review. I have an Enduro model and after fiddling with it a bit I really like it. I have not experienced the starter issue but thanks for the heads up. The OEM shocks are shocking, I have Andreani cartridges up front and M Shock rear, a huge improvement, expensive but worth every penny, (my feet scrape regularly on corners now). I have fat bars that are slightly lower than OEM and an awesome termignoni 2into1 exhaust. On B roads it is fantastic, I can now scare sportsbike riders. A roads are good too it's just when you get onto dual carriageways that the fun begins to wane due to the sit up and beg riding position and wind.
I hope that you read this because there is a ridiculously easy (and cheap) fix for the snatchy throttle, (it used to really p me off). You need a couple of 33mm (diameter) washers, with a 19mm hole x 3mm thick. Take the handle bar mounts off and put the washers between the bar mounts and the top yoke. Firms everything up and no more throttle snatch. No, I didn't believe it either but it works!
Top review man.
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try. It is a crackin little bike on the right road, had to wrestle the keys out of my dad's hand last time I lent it to him.
@@RarefiedRoad The stock bike will do 0-60 in 4.1 seconds
5 min 48 (timed)
ua-cam.com/video/BQFx54Az9B4/v-deo.html
The electronics are not Italian either ... they are German (Bosch) and any problems with them can be placed in Thailand (assembly).
The throttle is not snatchy post-2016. Mine is the 2017 throttle and mapping.
You brought a 2015 model which is the first year before all the teething issues were ironed out.
If you like the bike (I do) you will dump all the cheap stock suspension etc ... and upgrade the clutch (I use Barnet spring and plate kit) - footpegs - levers - exhaust (throw the CAT put and lose 7.9 kg) and if you are really into the bike (I am) you will put BST carbon fibre rims on and lose another chunk of weight!
*I get 0-60 in 3.6 seconds*
The version I ended up with after the custom work ...
ua-cam.com/video/EyMiZjRYoO4/v-deo.html
I have always stayed away from Ducati's because of electrical issues. I now find myself looking at the 800 as a possibility. I've ridden bikes for 53 years to this point and don't want to quit. I switched from standards to a Cruser and don't like the riding position at all. I got rid of my Z900RS Kawasaki because of the seat height and the throttle mapping was terrible. I loved the power delivery (reminded me of my old GS1100E) and handling. I want a light bike that can do easy dirt and has a flat seat about 31 inches. The Ducati Scrambler might just fit the bill.
This was by far the best sounding Scrambler i heard till date ❤️
Having worked with avionics of helicopters and airliners for 25 years I would not call a faulty dead switch bad Italian electronics. The ironi given you are from England and English cars including Jags over the years is extreme.
Good honest review and I do appreciate your honesty.
That was a really excellent review because you were constructively critical and clear about what you meant. Thank you for it.
Not a bad video man. I enjoyed it. I don't have the expendable income I had when I was young and single but I am looking for something fun to ride. I need to get back on a bike again. I have always loved Ducati and these little things seem fun for shorter rides on the weekend and back and forth to work.
I wonder if the new Ducatis have upped their fueling game as of late? Having a heck of a time deciding between a 2021 v7 or Street Twin. I go back and forth having owned an air cooled Scramy and a v9 Bobber.
Thank you for that review.
I live in Thailand and was thinking of buying this motorbike but you have put me off with the "on or off throttle control".
Thanks for the heads up on those things. I've been wanting to get one and now I know some things to watch out for.
Will you be trying a V7 850 at some point? That old V7 charm with a few more ponies. It felt like a nice combination when I rode one.
Definitely. I'll take one out as soon as I get a chance. I want to see what difference that extra power makes.
@@RarefiedRoad look forward to your thoughts on that one, I've put a deposit down on an 850...
@@jimmarshall807 had mine a couple of months now...you’ll love it (what is there not to love?).
why you would not recommend it as commuter apart from that its not comfortable in wet and cold? I like Ducati , unfortunately they dont make anything similar to Hayabusa to serve me as main ride. So was thinking of getting this as ( cheapish) second bike as funkster / commuter in/ around the city.
what about heat coming from the engine in a bumper to bumper traffic situation?
Are you running it without mufflers? Like straight piped but with cat? How loud is it?
Hi do you still have the original handle bars if you do could I buy them of you
I had the same problem with the ignition switch, g$ddamn thing cut out and stalled the bike with no warning. Ended up replacing it.
Only other issue is the engine heat if your diving around town and have to stop at lights. Scary hot.
Excellent review as usual. Funny you have had electrical issues, my M900 (1995) never let me down in the 4 years I had it (2015 - 2019) and yet my friends 2015 1200 Monster let him down on at least three occasions. I really miss the M900 and thought your comment about feeling like a Michelin man was very accurate, they are small bikes. When I sold the Duke I bought a BMW S1000r brand new in 2019, amazing bike that is now up for sale since I feel like a passenger rather than a rider, cannot connect with it. In the meantime I bought an XJR1300 (2004) to play with, it's like trying to hustle your favourite sofa. However I want to update her, you know upside forks, flat slide carbs, K&N, decent brakes and if the money stretches' from the bmw sale maybe some carbon fibre wheels. Because man she could do with losing some weight!
I’m buying one at the moment and it will be used for a 32 mile commute most of the year round so thanks for pissing on my chips😢
Tbf most of my ride is rural, not many traffic lights or particularly heavy traffic. Having had two monsters previously I’m sure I’ll cope
I am 5'3 in height is that fit for me in any possible way of customized to make it lower a little bit, Thanks for the reply guys...
Your Scrambler looks great specially with that Mivv can. Test road one a couple of years ago but to be honest I'm a big Monster fan and the Scrambler didn't quite do it for me. Cheers RR great review as always.
So the electric fault was just a starter switch? Might it have been related to you changing the handlebars?
Nice review, i considered a scrambler but went for the Monster 696 instead.
Could be but I've changed bars on other bikes and never had a problem. I love a ducati monster, good choice.
May i know what type of ducati scrambler do you have? Is that full throttle? Your bike is very cool, simple and clean but very stylish
What are those bags??
"Pete Tork" Didnt he plsy bass guitar with the Monkees?
Good review, not put me off getting one. Great bike.
Do you run the bike straight piped?
Thank you for the very honest review 👍
How tall are you? Im going to be looking at one on Sunday. They look small in pictures but Ive seen them ride past me in person and they look quit big. Im 5'11.
Nice review! … do you remember which highsider mirror you bought please? …
I know I’m a bit late to the party on this but I was just looking at the mirror, I think it might be a conero 2, could be wrong but it looks pretty close to me.
I had one and managed to fix the throttle with one of those coke bottle/vintage fatty grips from norman hyde. That with a 7/8 M bars were very lovely at the time. Heard that there is a G2 throttle tamer for it as well. BUT, what I really want to know is: What else do you think is gives you over the 800 S2R? Apart from the looks and ABS, I think the monster is a smoother, less snatchy bike... reliability must be in the same ballpark as well. regards
That's a great review, I think my sights are set on this bike, with my eyes opened on the fact it will be less than ideal as a commuter. Kind of fancy the 'mastering it' or getting used to it, with the bonus that it's a great fit for surrey hills blasts.
What crossbar do you have on the handlebar? Thanks for the video.
Retro.....twin....accessorise friendly...reliable.....get an used Yam XSR700!...(especially with an upgraded end can...sounds delish!😉😎👍)
Lovely review.
Say you had £8000 in used 50s, you know, just lying around - would you buy a V7, a Ducati Scrambler or a Trident?
Tough one. I think my brain would pick the trident but my heart would over rule and buy the V7
Nice review! Great looking bike. Probably not very reliable long-term. Great starter bike or for a relaxed experienced rider.
Awesome review! Just curious to which bars you’ve got?
To be honest I can't remember exactly. Obviously they're Renthals and I went for a medium rise but I can't remember the exact product number sorry.
I need a gel seat cover man my bum is numb
I like it, thanks for the info I'm new to Ducati I road a Harley softail but want a smaller bike.
MG V7 III or this Scrambler?
what mirror is this?
A very honest review but you made far to many apologies, at the end of the day it is what it is, a Ducati and in my 30+ years of riding I have very rarely come across a reliable one, either new or otherwise. Don't get me wrong, Ducati make some fantastic and beautiful bikes but there always seems to be that nagging doubt about the electrics somewhere on the machine. I do however like the panniers you have on yours, the frame is so unobtrusive and yet so practical. Thanks again for the review but I will be sticking with my Japanese bikes for a while yet. 😉
what happened to Guzzi?
Nice review. How does the reliability / build quality compare to the Moto Guzzis you ownded?
To the Griso this is more reliable hands down but to the V7 my personal experience is that the Moto Guzzi was better. Once I sorted the ignition problem out though they're about the same for reliability in all honesty.
@@RarefiedRoad Thank you for the insight. I was mainly wondering about this due to the reliability of my 2020 Moto Morini Corsaro ZZ being pretty close to what I always dismissed as Italian stereotypes/prejudices.
So far I have had:
- Coolant leaks in basically every hose and from the thermostat house (one is still ongoing since they don't have a replacement hose and no ETA).
- 3 blinkers break off.
- Had a mirror just break off while I was drying it with a towel.
- Gone through 3 batteries.
- Had to replace the dash since it was full of water after some rain.
- Had the entire licence plate holder break off while I was riding on the highway.
And this for a 20k € bike, kind of hurts.
But I do like the look of a Guzzi or a Ducati, so did not want to write off all Italian bikes because of this :).
Svartpilen 701 is a bike you'd love... 150 kilo with 79hp..
same thing happened on my new bmw, just quit, center lane of 7 lanes, happened 7 times,, it tried to kill me until bmw bought it back
I want one of these, but I think I'll stick to the Japanese bikes. A z400 or mt03 is just as fast for half the price.
1) remove the side stand sensor
2) remove clutch position sensor
There's something strange about this bike. I've never been into motorcycles, but there's just something about the design of this thing that's so alluring, I'm starting to consider to get a bike license just to get this specific bike.
And hearing it's nice for beginners, I might do just that.
Like riding a sowing machine!
I believe my ducati came defective because it hasn’t given me any issues. I want my ducati experience! 😅
Triumph all day long
I actually taste lemon when I see this bike.
Nice one. One of the best reviews of the scrambler I've seen. I've never really liked the scrambler, it kinda looks too toy like and I'm not a fan of its lines. Mind you, it's the first time I've seen the looks of a bike drastically improved by fitting panniers....so I'm thinking it must be the lines of the seat/rear end I don't like.
Lol.....nobody ever said the bike was toy like until Andy Flyer said that . Now everyone is copying that ... can’t you come up with your own insults?
@@aunoates6617 maybe he says it because it is. And just because someone says something, it doesn't mean it's copyright, otherwise we couldn't have mentioned Italian electrics for the past 50 years!
@@robbikebob Yes, very true! He should get it copyrighted though because someone even came up to me at cafe and told me it was toy like! 🙂
@@aunoates6617 let’s be honest, all bikes are toys (bar commuters and Deliveroos etc)
@@Dreddingbath Ha ha...yes, these days bikes are looked at in the same light as jet skis and hang gliders. It hasn’t always been that way though! 🙂
Engine is identical to the baby monster.
This is a good honest review of your bike but not really a fair review of the current Ducati Scrambler which has had multiple upgrades from the old model. For instance, there is no longer any problem whatsoever with the throttle control. The suspension is different, the clutch is now hydraulic, and improvements have been made to the electronics such as gear indicator, fuel gauge and connectivity etc.
You’ve got me nervous about breaking down now even though I’ve had 8,500 completely trouble free miles so far 😀
Good to know, I wasn't aware they'd improved that much with the new one. And honestly I'm sure yours won't break down, I mean I wouldn't bet my house on it but I'm pretty sure 😁
@@RarefiedRoad Yes, they look almost exactly the same but even the subframe has differences and anyone ordering luggage like yours will have to make sure they order the right part or may find that some products aren’t available for the newer bike at all!
I hate snatchy throttles Which bikes do not have a snatchy throttle?
Dream
In short u can say its some 🍕 delivering 160 cb not a good thing even for beginners
Giving you review I’m convinced you detest the thing.
Get the tail tidy on there and you'll be done :)
Buy yourself the new Moto guzzi V7 850
It’s a very short and small bike. Not my cuppa tea
S ell it !
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Maybe learn why you like it and learn about the bike then do a review.
1) remove the side stand sensor
2) remove clutch position sensor