How The Model Minority Myth Keeps Asian Americans Out Of Management
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- If you are Asian in America, you probably grew up with the idea that you had to keep your head down, get perfect grades, and work hard to achieve wealth and success.
Many of these ideas are because of the model minority myth-a set of assumptions about Asian American achievement and behavior that have held Asian Americans back from equal opportunity in academia, the workforce, and necessary government welfare. However, the perception of overachievement also leaves Asian Americans out of important equity conversations and suppresses their career growth.
In recent years, Asian representation among college students and in executive leadership has come under scrutiny. According to studies, nearly 60% of Asian Americans go to college. After school, they comprise 13% of working professionals but just 6% of executive leadership.
So is the career suppression of Asian Americans a hidden form of racism? If not, why exactly have Asian Americans been underrepresented in management roles, and what can we do about it?
For many years, anti-Asian biases and discrimination have largely gone unacknowledged. Until now, as the nation takes a closer look at the origins of discrimination in a climate of racial reckonings and increased violence.
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In some ways, Quincy Surasmith says he didn’t feel like an outsider growing up. Surasmith, who is Thai- and Chinese-American, was raised in a part of L.A. that had a large Asian American community.
But while Surasmith excelled in his early school days, by high school, his grades were slipping. He was engaged in class and tested well, but he stopped completing his homework and his GPA suffered.
“I almost flunked out,” Surasmith says, “and [teachers] didn’t have an answer for that. They were like, well, why wouldn’t you want to achieve?”
What teachers didn’t consider was that, because of disruptions at home during his parents’ divorce, filling out extra worksheets after school wasn’t exactly his priority.
Additionally, “it was expected of us or assumed of us that we were kids who had parents who had steady incomes and access to money for extracurricular activities or prep classes, or even just having like a car to get to places,” Surasmith says. “But I know I didn’t necessarily have all those things.”
Surasmith’s experience is just one of countless examples of how Asian Americans have been subject to the model minority myth - a set of assumptions that Asian Americans are hardworking overachievers who have made it to the highest levels of success. By positioning Asians as the model minority race, it also assumes that Asians don’t need any help, and don’t require any further examination of how their race is discriminated against.
But these assumptions are just that, and the consequences of the stereotype go beyond the classroom.
“By grouping all the Asian Americans together and assuming all of them will do well just because you’ve measured them as a group, you end up ignoring the people who might not fit into that,” Surasmith says.
For decades, the model minority myth has kept Asian Americans out of important equity conversations and held members of the community back from equal opportunity in academia, the workforce and necessary government welfare.
The origins and consequences of the model minority myth
The term “model minority” was first coined in the 1960s by sociologist William Petersen for a New York Times Magazine article. It was used to describe the so-called “success stories” of some Japanese American families, who during World War II were forced into internment or pushed to enlist in the military as a means to prove their patriotism, yet were able to rebuild and reintegrate into society after the war.
Ellen Wu, an associate professor of history at Indiana University Bloomington, links this portrayal to essentially a rebranding effort as the U.S. rose to become a global super power. If America was truly the land of democracy and equal opportunity, U.S. leaders had to show that immigrants could overcome anything, even racist and exclusionary policies, to succeed here.
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How The Model Minority Myth Keeps Asian Americans Out Of Management
Keep in mind that India and China have lower literacy rates than the U.S. There's nothing that makes Asians inherently smarter; it's just that the Asians who immigrate to the U.S. generally work in high-skilled jobs which required college degrees.
Where do you get those numbers? I would have assumed that China has a pretty high literacy rate, as it would be common for communist countries, and a quick Google search did result in finding a literacy rate of 96.8% for China, which may not be perfect. But I think, even now they keep expanding literacy programs or just general school education to minorities too recently, to get the last couple percentiles, and yes, that might very well include Uyghurs.
@@nickyliu8762 North Korea has a 100% literacy rate lmao literacy proficiency means very different things across the world bro
Also most of the stem field studies at major american universities give positions to foreign nationals instead of americans. Just saying thats a real problem for americas future.
It’s crazy how different races and ethnicities have different myths associated with them. I grew up envying how people automatically assumed intelligence + hard work with Asians but assumed the very opposite for me (black women). As I’ve grown up and even watching this I’ve seen how both (and all assumptions) are just SO DANGEROUS
Dangerous?
Stereotypes are closer to truth than myth. These are observable traits.
@@remoir6273 youve observed every single asian in the world and come to that conclusion? hardly even a logical assumption as everyone from Indian to Chinese to Filipino are all considered “asian”. when Russia is in the same geographic “zone” but somehow not asian. or middle easterners are in the same region but not considered Asian. And culturally theyre all different. so what even is Asian?
@@AE-nf8nz lol. You’re talking about an entirely different topic. The woman is talking about positive stereotypes with Asians and negative stereotypes with People of color.
As an Asian American how is it dangerous? its a bunch of nonsense. They think we are high achieving and intelligent. And they are largely correct factually. I see it as a compliment and a true observation of whst we are like.
I grew up thinking how lucky Asians were to have such positive stereotypes. Being Black an always an over achiever, I worked so hard to disprove the negative stereotypes of African Americans. I never thought of how damaging all stereotypes are to all minorities. Very interesting.
im asian myself and i always thought it was a good thing, but now im older and learning about the model minority myth was definitely an eye opener
Will smith is a perfect example of black culture.
no such thing as a good stereotype
@@masterpooshi6031 but raping and enslaving children show what of another culture?????
This video is very misleading do you realize what is the demographic of Asian americans in USA its about 7% but 60% of them go to the universities. that is very high numbers. They also make up 13% of the working professionals which is almost double the representation for their group. They also make up 6% of the leadership positions in this country which is comparable for their population demographics. Blacks is 14% of the population and only make up 7% of the management positions which is half based on population. so the blacks are way under represented. Don't feel sorry for the asians. Be careful to analyze propaganda. I studied finance and statistics can easily be manipulated. I would much rather have someone stereotype me as being smart because im asian. Than be labeled as shoplifter, Thug, Drug dealer, stupid, lazy for being black.
For all those that keep saying "I can't believe asians are upset they have positive stereotypes." Did you not watch the video? These are only _seemingly_ positive. It doubles down against asians that don't fit into the stereotype. Asians are not a monolith. We all do not have the same cultures and values. You can't stereotype people from over 20 very diverse countries holding over a billion people anymore than any other race.
When an Asian doesn't perform, they are shamed, told to just do better, and lack access to help and benefits. So many Asian groups aren't even counted due to lack of funding to address language barriers and they are terribly misleading. Asian poor are some of the poorest in the country. We have some of the largest pay gaps of ethnic minority groups. And when people tell all asians to shut up and appreciate a stereotype they don't fit into, there's also no awareness of how big the issue is.
"The misperception that Asians “are doing fine” is damaging. In fact, income inequality in the U.S. is greatest among Asians, who displaced Blacks as the country’s most economically divided racial group, according to Pew Research Center in 2018. Asians at the top of the economic pyramid are doing well, but many people at the very large base are not."
www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-a-myth-that-asian-americans-are-doing-well-in-the-pandemic/
www.urban.org/urban-wire/asian-americans-are-falling-through-cracks-data-representation-and-social-services
It's assumed that because all Asians are the model minority, none of them need help, so almost none is provided. How is that not dangerous?
Only help Asians need is to stay away from idiots like you who try to turn them into victims
@@lucuslopez6866 I victimized no one. I referred to statistics and studies to make a point. 🙄
So you, a massive racist, is fighting racism by being racist and condescending to the race you are trying to 'protect'? Seems legit.
@@andrewphillips8341 how am I being racist?
@@jesod42 you're not.. Andrew is projecting.
“You’re one of us but you’re not” so true
Happy Asian American Pacific Islander History Month!! 🥳🙌🏼 Thank you for covering how harmful the model minority stereotype is or can be. As hard as 2020-2021 has been with rising asian hate crimes, I'm focusing on the fact that more attention is being given to hearing our perspectives in media and seeing more Asian representation in pop culture. Illinois is actually the first state to pass legislation requiring teaching Asian American history starting in the 2022-2023 school year.
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Yeah as an Asian American, Im not buying into any of this identity politics. I dont want an Asian day or to talk about my race all the time. Just let me advance as an individual based upon my achievement. And we are high achieving people.
@@552mustang Less Woke, More Work. Keep that mindset and you will go places.
@@552mustang wow it's like the same thing that white people have been saying for years but everyone just like to call them racists. It's like people should recieve help based on their basic needs instead of their race?
Look, I (an Asian) studied some Asian American history. One class as an elective is more than enough. Don't buy into this victim narrative. People are racist - yes. There are not racist laws but if you are supporting a law (mandated by government) for teaching history for a specific race, that in itself is racist.
When Mr. Buck Gee mentioned that we have been taught to be humble and not ask for promotion, it hit the nail on the head, which is the main reason I conducted research on 473 Filipino-Americans, confirming that our culture clashes with assertiveness. As a result, I have begun speaking to audiences about respectful assertiveness, a strategy that allows us to be FIRM yet still calm and dignified in our message. I would love to speak to any group that is interested! This is so needed. As Mr. Gee said, we need to recognize the problem and be open to learning new skills. We hear you, Mr. Gee, loud and clear! Thank you for this video, #CNBC! #CNBCMakeIt
The model minority myth is dangerous... there are marginalized in the “Asian” categorization. I’m “Asian” but Filipinos differ culturally from say East Asians or even south and south East Asians but we are clumped into the model minority. Essentially breaking the rules of being Asian. Thank you for talking about this topic!
@@choosingbegger9799 I know that’s what I said what I said. South East Asians have some of the poorest groups in the “Asian” diaspora
@@VerStarr , the model minority is not dangerous. It’s actually favor us. Do you want people to look at you as positive or negative? Imagine having a stereotype as dumb, lazy, and criminals. You will be look down upon. People don’t respect u and dislike u. Stop complaining and whining. I am Vietnamese and have no problem of being view as model minority. In reality we are perceived as good contributor to society.
@@lisa-sk5bt it actually is tho because 1. Asians didn’t coin it 2. If it wasn’t dangerous then why do we need #StopAsianHate and 3. It is dangerous because of the points you just said, other minorities are stereotyped negatively.
Your rational is selfish. Try again.
@@VerStarr , we need stop Asian hate because of the covid 19. People blame Asians for the virus coming from China. Now do u understand the negative stereotype. Cuz of the coronavirus we have negative stereotype. How do u feel now cuz of having the negative stereotype. It’s always better to have good stereotype than bad stereotype. I am saying this for all Asian; it’s way better to have good stereotype than bad stereotype.
@@lisa-sk5bt Lisa how about not having good or bad sterotypes and just being viewed as a person.
As a Burmese, it hit right on the mark as my mom makes about $40,000 a year. For us, alot of people don't even know where Myanmar when they ask us "Are you Chinese? Korean"" when we're not.
First world asian problems.
Jesus Christ. Everyone wants to be a victim today.
Be happy, you’re not a in a third world country in Asia like China, bad human rights there.
Yeah I had few classmates that were from Burma. I even saw a documentary about the struggles the people went through in Burma.
I had a horrible time in math, yet they kept putting me in advanced math classes. WTH? I dropped my science class Senior year. My teacher said I'd regret it. Turns out, I"m good at social sciences and arts. Go figure.
I know a guy here in Switzerland, the company he used to work for, hired a Chinese American man as their team leader. The guy move from American to Switzerland. According to him, the Asian American manager has done some really successful projects back in the U.S and that’s why the company hired him. The whole team despised the idea that the company hired an Asian man to manage their project, which spiked an unprecedented resignation. Many people straight up quit their job.
Swss amart
maybe because he sucks
As an "Asian" living in Asia, I am just "flabbergasted" on how US categorized 60% of world population in one single category. Even in China or India, different cities and regions speak different languages, embrace different cultures/values... The Pakistanis in South Asia, have nothing in common with Koreans in East Asia... lol.
er... different parts of the african continent also speak different languages. what is your point
In America, nobody really cares where you come from. If you look East Asian, you're automatically from China. End of story. Yes, it's very ignorant, but that's the reality of being East Asian in America.
As a filipino born in italy i was shocked to know americans have to put their race on the curriculum or other type of documents. I can’t find a reason why would that be necessary
@@jojobad1796 I’m Filipino too living here in the US for 20 yrs. I always put “others” because what is the point?
@@jojobad1796 And americans say why Racism never ends in their country ?
Yup. All of this. Last month I interviewed for a VP position at a company. Looking at the website, I could see that their leadership team was a sea of white faces. I interviewed so well on the phone, that they advanced me to the next round of interviews to be conducted via Zoom. Well, despite my non-ethnic-sounding name, they could now see my big Asian face during these Zoom meetings. A couple of weeks later, my headhunter calls me to tell me that the company felt "I wasn't the right fit" for the position. Hmm... I wonder why...
Do you believe that you didn't get the vice president position because of your ethnicity?
@@jbaz007 I don't know, to be honest. But the optics with this particular situation are pretty bad. I have never seen a management team at a tech company that was 100% white. Until now.
@@hejiranyc well I can't say for sure because I do not know the actual situation... this is a bit of a conundrum. You see on one hand it is possible that you did not get the job based on reasons involving racism which is wrong and unjust. On the other hand it is possible you didn't get the job for other reasons such as high competition, not as experienced etc. Most people who applied and interviewed did not get the job, just one. Making you the person seeing the others race as the problem which is also wrong and unjust.
@@jbaz007 I work in a decidedly niche field. I have almost 30 years of relevant work experience, which is highly, highly exceptional. The headhunter who reached out to me basically told me that I was the most experienced candidate of the handful of individuals that were being evaluated. Again, I don't have a smoking gun. But the optics here are pretty compelling (in a bad way).
@@hejiranyc don’t be a cry baby. Try being black man. You are technically white.
Asians - if you're held back by the bamboo ceiling, look elsewhere. Build a skillset that makes you indispensible and easily transferrable. In fact, even if you're comfy with your job, keep looking for new ones/freelancing/setting up your own business. Sell yourself all the time - your business skills, your technical skills, your interpersonal skills. Keep pushing, keep seeking more.
I know a couple of Asians who rapidly went up the technical promotions, but just stayed there - they then made a startup, and in a few years, they were headhunted by corps to be on their board. Never assume the only route is to work your way up the same company.
Whenever you face an obstacle, find ways around it or through it.
thanks for this advice
Good advice
Dude that's what Asians have been doing for the last 50 years. People fail to see the discrimination and obstances Asians have had to overcome to get to where they are today and just play it down as a "model minority" myth. What nonsense? Asians didn't face exclusion in Mortgage loans? What about the Chinese Exclusion Act? Internment of Japanese Americans in WWII? The only Americans that believe in saving and investing rather than spending to build wealth -- Asian Americans. The Americans that spend the most on educational attainment while others talk about cool shoes and whatnot. Asian Americans never needed representation on TV or politics to prosper and that's a fact.
They're now changing the narrative to suit their agenda. They want Asian Americans to play a certain role as a "minority" because minority means lack thereof. Minority means marginalized. Yes maybe politically but economically No. It's all about the value you can create or what you bring to the table.
Asian Americans should not change trajectory. They'll regret it later on if they do.
Great advice 👏🏿👏🏿.
We should take over
It just goes to show, good or bad stereotype, you could work your but off, doesn't automatically mean access to success, opportunity or even a seat at the table as many of us had hoped.
It's not even about who you know, if who you know doesn't like you *on sight*.
I can tell y’all did not watch the video before commenting
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Yeah except the video didn't do a good job of explaining how being perceived as a "model minority" is particularly DANGEROUS
@@liyascheffer9283 scam
I was only promoted twice in my working career and still became a retired millennial multimillionaire. The key for ethnic minorities is to save and invest harder than everyone else.
I’m glad it worked out for you, but it doesn’t work for everyone
must be so hard for you
This dude is speaking the truth. Invest compound. Someone can make 100k gross and be richer than his boss making 200k, if he invest 2-3 years before his boss
Invest smarter along with harder. High fees can negatively affect market returns. Cryptocurrency is also overlooked as a new form of commodity
I can't agree more. One has to look for opportunities that helps them outwit the oppressive systems. As black/Asian people, We don't have to conform to the confinement the system has placed over us
“Grouping all together” under a stereotype…..sounds very familiar 🤔.
I relate to this soooo much and yet I’m an Asian in Europe
It comes down to cultural values not race
@HelioPyres European don't want to settle in asia it's a third world country so stay in first world.
@HelioPyres From my limited understanding, there are quite a bit that do so especially if the company they work for wants to do business with the West. As for allowed? What does that even mean?
@HelioPyres Helllooooo? Where have you been......... Obviously Not to Asia! Expats who live here permanently are everywhere! In fact it's hard to avoid!
Correction: You're Asian in a white-dominated social system.
Glad this subject was brought up. I’ve read and learned about it for a while now since college, but this is the first time I see it made in a video.
Students: You were born good at math.
Me: I have 2 learning disabilities, so I had to work hard for my grades.
Just like how white people automatically have privilege!
Don't let them stereotype you. Putting people in group is just a way of enabling to judge a person by the group it belongs to without having to look at the person. Thats not what you want and its senseless.
It's annoying mild minority myth and being a filipino teen girl I find it stupid.🇵🇭🇵🇭😉😊
To have any stereotypes placed on you based on race alone is the action of an ignorant racist. I believe in judging someone as an individual and not on racial stereotypes as a factor in or out of the workplace.
Proud to be Asian American.
Agreed! proud to be filipino!🇵🇭😊
Being an asian american male is the lowest of the social hierarchy in the workplace and society.
Thank you, another topic not talked about and sweep under the rug. Imagine how hard it is to break the ceiling as a asian female in the corporate world.
Asians face struggles in corporate big business. A Harvard Business School study showed that while Asians have somewhat easier time getting entry level or middle management positions, few get into C-level due to “bamboo ceiling”
Asian female can marry a white male manager, seniors, partners. Asian males cannot do that.
2.8% and 4.1% of fortune 100 executives are East Asian and South Asian, respectively. That’s total of 6.9%. Given that we make up 7% of the national population in the US, it’s actually a perfectly fair representation.
There's a reason why they separated it 😂😂😂
Idk, I believe the newer groups of asian that came to the U.S. just need time to settle in. 1st generation are either Blue collar and later in life hold degrees and run businesses. But 2nd generation is on a whole different level, I'm freaking impressed with all these 2nd generation Hmongs. We've moved very fast for the 50 or so years we've been here.
At the same time, Koreans look down on other Southeast Asians like Thai or Vietnamese people. Racist exists everywhere so everyone needs to do better.
And castism is rampant amongst Indian Americans in Silicon Valley. www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/27/indian-caste-bias-silicon-valley/. How ironic.
This is called colorism which exists globally. Talking about structural racism within contextual hierarchy in America.
As a Korean person, this is very true. I apologize on behalf of my country for this antiquated view
Thailand and Vietnam are far more discriminatory than any Western country in terms of career opportunities and casual racism.
Good thing Thais or Viets could care less - every nation has their ignorance
Many Asian Americans both East and South Asians have always adapted the keep your head down and work hard mentality despite whatever it is that's going on and unfortunately adapted some prejudice beliefs about black people. Growing up people automatically assumed asians were good at math and computers and were overall more trustworthy and meek. Almost the complete opposite when compared to black people. It's an unfortunate myth but I cannot help but think that this myth also had it's advantages.
2:53 ofc CNBC would use that music 🙄
I was thinking the same
I think it was to prove the point. They were talking about that era
Love this so much, nodding the whole way through. We are lucky to have a less discriminated culture here is New Zealand, however, it is definitely still in the bones of the society. Continue to fight and adapt for fairness, rights and celebrate diversity.
Where’s the Indians? We are a good part of Asia. No one talks about India and if they do it’s always in a bad light. The media has made it that whenever anyone thinks of the word “Asian” they think of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Also CNBC is trying to say that Asians are being suppressed in the workplace which is true now, but historically hasn’t. Asians make up 5.4% of the US population yet take 6% of executive leadership jobs and make more than any other race.
They're Indian ceo
2:08 - as the guy mentions china and japan it shows two people bowing to each other. Is this pedaling the stereotype or is that a common reality? The reason it stands out so much to me now is that ive been watching a small channel japanese vlogger (KeiKeiKei on youtube) travelling europe and sometimes random people he meets put their hands together and bow to him!
no one bows in China anymore. These weirdo's love talking about race and what is wrong with everyone else meanwhile they don't realize they're going all in on the stereotype game as well.
In Korea, it is respectful to bow and you often do it for many things. Ex: Thank you bow, funeral bow, respectful to elders bow, e.t.c But not everybody does this
This video is so needed n eye-opening
the video is BS
Yeah, I got passed over. Despite the field recognizing me a the most trusted and knowledgeable. They promoted others over me, and ended up firing them because they could not do the job. Loud and bossy....."Leadership" but they didn't know what they are doing. So they were fired or managed out. Only when they polled the field and were told I'm guy did they recognize me...and just put into the line up to replace another team that failed. This happened 3 times.
at that point you could have demanded more money for your services. Know your worth. Constantly seek more. Don't be a walkover - its a dog eat dog world in business.
The VP from Cisco said something really key. We need to stop thinking about leadership as white and male. Or overly aggressive and self seeking. Corporations needs to look at barriers for all minorities to move up in rank and position
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I get that hiring someone shouldn’t be about race and should be all about competence, skills, leadership qualities and such. what I don’t get is why is it extremely important for people growing up to see themselves represented in executive higher level positions? it’s like teaching them to see race and color further casting the idea that everyone is classified by their race? isn’t it better for people growing up to draw inspiration from who ever successful up there regardless of race? If in the company I work at I see an asian in a management position, I don’t want to think that I have a chance to be promoted as management someday because I am asian too and there has to be asian representation in the management. I want them to promote me because of my leadership and management skills. some forget that wanting to represent as asians in positions of whatever aspects of industry is also playing the race card themselves.
You made some great points my friend. I'm a lower middle class black guy living in Europe, if I succeed in life it will be because of my work ethic, skills, and competence not because I'm part of x "oppressed" group. Thankfully, there are no affirmative action policies in my country. I hope it stays that way.
Really interesting video
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As observed in my companies, a giant international firm, Chinese Americans are rarely be promoted even they're qualified for. For myself no matter how talkative in weekly meeting my colleagues always talk me as quite.... that's hard to change their mind thus so many Asian Americans set their own firm
Define qualified... I posted a comment on what it means to be qualified in corporate America. You most likely don't fit that mold.
We could start by allowing the best people into schools regardless of their race.
Hi
I agree
@M
No, but I got one from the Army.
I could’ve though.
You clearly missed the point of video. Just getting strong degrees hasn’t helped Asian Americans get to the executive levels.
@M Tell your white friends and family to give stolen land back to native americans
If you're going to break down Asians into smaller groups in order to show that not all Asians are successful, you should also break down whites into smaller groups too; otherwise, it's completely disingenuous to compare specific poor Asian groups to all whites in general.
You clearly don’t understand how whiteness works..
@@CinniBom95, I understand what a biased reasoning is, and it applies whether you're white, brown, or black.
When I was younger, I was seriously misled by such biased reporting that created a racist narrative out of thin air. I would hate to see other young people being misled by such disingenuous and potentially malicious reporting.
I would say also blacks but then I suppose we would simply adjust to looking down on certain groups from each race 🤷🏿♀️😁.
Best video from
CNBC! Completely captures the struggle
She is a wonderful example to follow
They do not promote many Asians because they want the Asian employees' knowledge and intelligence and to exploit them, but they are reluctant to give the Asian employees credit or recognition.
What do you expect. Do you think that Asian companies will have white CEOs. (from AA person point of view) So rather than crying about the glass ceiling, Start your own company. Soon or later Asian Americans will be the leaders of several great companies in America.
Nice work ✨🎆🎇
To those reading this, I hope you all have a very lovely evening and weekend!! Stay positive and keep your head up! You’re doing great 👍🏻
Mimi strauss. you too,.
I am from India, you are showing pictures of entrepreneurs like Jeff bozos, Elon etc. They have started their companies and they are the CEO, most of the 100 top CEOs are like that. Also the top CEOs are from India like Google, Microsoft. So I find your narrative not completely fair. It's not completely wrong, but not complete scenario.
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Don’t think she’s referring to ceo but top executives positions where Asians make up 13% of the workplace but only 6% of the higher positions. Meaning Asians take up majority of the employee count but only small amount are in the leadership level. Aka like the White House
@@GallantNite ceos are the definition of top executives
Because it's agenda driven??
Amithab. and Indians are asians.something that is never mentioned .
Deep. I believe the Asian-American youth will bring the change once they can step from the shadows of culture and family that hold them back
Its funny how they showed 4 entrepreneur who started your own companies when talking about the disparity of executive in top level companies.
Well done, more of this please.
1:40 is not a good way to represent these statistics. The first stat should be what proportion of total college students are Asian American, so the other two would fit the same context since they are talking about the percentage of total working professionals and executive leadership that is Asian American. Starting with what percent of Asian Americans go to college after high school gives us no usable information here and creates a false comparison to the other two stats.
Not trying to take anything away from the message here, I do think this is an important discussion to have. I just think we have to think carefully about how we tell statistical stories.
Yep I love this video and sometimes it's hard being a filipino teen girl and most people think that am Japanese.🇵🇭😃🇵🇭😊
6 percent of executive leadership
6 percent of the country
I was bullied at school because of my appearance.It was the hardest time of my entire life
You must be black.
You must have lived outside of the Bay Area, San Gabriel Valley or Queens and Brooklyn.
@@periscoperpete9987 actually,I have strict parents and was wearing modest clothes,also refused to hang out with classmates.That was the reason.
Stay strong !!
@@latlj1283 please check my bully story
I'm offering a different perspective.
After working with various different firms, I come to realize that literally everyone is attempting to achieve to same goal.
Side effect is that you have to have a hivemind mentality for it to happen. A model worker is submissive, obedient, alert & a pushover & causes no trouble... it's desired because 1 the boss wants to take full advantage of that and walk all over that worker & two the worker isn't smart enough to do anything else.
The school system is rigged & geared toward this.
The stereotypes don't matter, but corporate America uses it as an excuse to determine if someone is either too smart or too stupid. If someone is Black or Latinx/Hispanic, they are perceived to not be as smart as Asian & White folk. French are exotic, Italians & British got away with a lot of things.
This is beside the point.
But, the biblical mentality is if you are weak enough to be as i said submissive, obedient & a pushover... to the hivemind... and be enslaved to the god-like figure.
That's why I always loved individualism, populism, & separatism and true freedom.
It's strikes me that people from different Asian groups in America are sold a bill of goods in the workplace and corporate america that doesn't get cashed in and thus many are left out in the cold.
Based on this video, its essentially bait and switch.
There’s promotion available at work but I’m not interested in it because the pay is not worth it for the amount of stress I’m going to be dealing with!.!.
Marlo, mental health ain't worth the extra $$ . doe je best !
Good grades and working at a "good company" aren't the golden ticket to a good life. You could be the CEO of the best lumber company, but if you hate lumber, you'll be miserable in comparison to the Janitor at NASA that loves space exploration.
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The Janitor at NASA will not be doing space exploration though so the comparison is moot.
I agree! I am going to be down with nursing but I will be pursuing business/modeling on the side.
What about Asian from the sub continent who are not necessarily India?
The one thing I've learned that is NOT a myth is that Asians are some of the hardest working people in the world!
Hard work helps with job security. Office politics matters more for promotion to managerial positions
This video is extremely silly. As a child of two immigrants, I completely disagree with the premise of this video.
Ok, so I’m not crazy! I’ve often wondered why I can’t recall having or seeing very many Asians in Management positions outside of their own business.
My parents fled China due to the communists and we ended up in Mauritius, Africa... The next generation is highly educated in Western Universities and they are not going back ..... Opportunities are still better in US & Canada as it is tough to belong to a minority group...
tbh who even wants to work for someone anymore? The real way to make $$$ is to own your own business. forget making someone else rich.
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Yeah they usually had advantages that Amerindians, Blacks, And Hispanics usually did and do not have
Like what exactly??
@@theinternetsavedmylife LIKE THE POSITIVE STEREOTYPES PUT ON ASIANS. I HAVE SEEN YOU UP AND DOWN THE COMMENTS SECTIONS GOING CRAZY. TGE POSITIVE STEREOTYPES PUT ON ASIANS HELPS THEM TO GET ACCESS TO MORE OPPORTUNITIES. NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES PUT ON BLACKS AND HISPANICS PEOPLE PUSHES OPPORTUNITIES AWAY FROM THEM. HOW HARD IS THAT TO COMPREHEND ? I AM NIGERIAN BUT NO MATTER THE STEREOTYPES ABOUT NIGERIAN BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE USA, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO SEE ME AS A BLACK PERSON BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE.
@@jaybee4577 When you fit into the stereotype why wouldn't they see you in the light? I'm sure in your mind, the stereotype of Asians being smart just popped out of nowhere. I'm sure they weren't ridiculed during WWII, especially the Japanese. I'm sure there was no such thing as the Chinese Exclusion Act. I'm sure Asians haven't been discriminated in loan and mortgage applications. I'm sure they don't face discrimination from Universities during the admission process. When in your mind, life itself is one huge bargaining chamber where privileges are given to groups of people, personal responsibility and effort means nothing to you.
What positive stereotypes made Nigerian Americans one of the most successful immigrant groups in America on average? Even among Nigerians in the US, the igbos are much more successful than any other group. Is it a stereotype or is it culture? Are they more entrepreneurship minded, hardworking and driven than others or maybe it's just "privileges" bestowed on them by society.
Your excuse is nonsensical when you consider the amount of work these people put into becoming successful
@@theinternetsavedmylife STEREOTYPES ABOUT ASIANS DIDN’T JUST POP OUT OF NOWHERE. IT WAS STARTED BY A SOCIOLOGIST (I BELIEVE). HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT A JAPANESE FAMILY AND OUT THEY WERE ABLE TO SUCCEED AFTER ALL THE DISCRIMINATION THEY FACED IN THE USA. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU KNOW ABOUT NIGERIANS OR IGBOS TO BE SPECIFIC, ARE YOU NIGERIAN? I DON’T KNOW WERE YOU GUYS GET ALL THESE TALKING POINTS FROM. I AM NIGERIAN AND I DON’T THINK ANY ETHNIC GROUP IN NIGERIA IS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF SOME CULTURE OR VALUES. I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH AN INDIVIDUAL AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE. MOST IMMIGRANTS (NO MATTER THE RACE) ACTUALLY COME TO AMERICA TO SUCCEED AND WON’T CARE ABOUT RACISM, DISCRIMINATION OR WHATEVER. THEY JUST COME HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE. I THINK THAT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, PEOPLE COMPARE IMMIGRANTS EXPERIENCE WITH AN AMERICAN WHO HAS BEEN LIVING HERE FOREVER.
while 60% of asian american students may go to college, they only comprise 8-9% of the american college student body. that they make up 13% of working professionals shows that they are more likely to be successful in the workforce and not the opposite as this video would like us to believe.
EXACTLY....CNBC didn't take stats
Probably because a lot more of them went to top tier colleges then lower end colleges.
Meanwhile 8:10
Asian-American CEOs of Fortune 100 companies out of 4, 3 are Indians.
@tuturaj retarise - Only Chinese looking are considered Asian. You’re categorized based on political lobbying to avoid indians and banglas being classified as black colored
@@waltercabey4352 what? SInce when Idians are not Asian? You are so dumb.
@@waltercabey4352 India is in Asia.
Ann Mukherjee is the current CEO of Pernod Ricard USA.
@@waltercabey4352 so MODI looks like from Africa????????!!!!!!!
Then how come the average Asian American makes more than the average European, African, or Hispanic American does?
I am sorry, these statistics are misleading. 60% out of all Asians go to college, 13% overall workforce is Asian American and only 6% executive/managerial personnell. This is not really consistent. You first compare Asian American with each other and then you compare the overal population with Asian Americans
And here we go with the Bell Curve again. The subgroups matter argument. On any income distribution there will be the successful and the unsuccessful. The Asian median is still the highest for any demographic in the US. That matters too, and in the grand scheme of things, it matters much more. The reason those subgroups don't do as well is because they came from agrarian cultures that did not have the same cultural background that placed urgency on education. Those that did, succeeded economically in one or two generations. Those that didn't, didn't. They will take longer and their eventual success will depend on whether the prospective parents learned that lesson. The generational growth of wealth is not just money, but knowledge.
As detrimental as it is there’s bits of truth to the myth, after all that’s what separates a myth from an outright false hood. Just look at the MIT Putnam team for an example
Update: I see that the interviewees DID touch on this. And I’m so grateful they did. I made this commentary when CSNBC laid out the primary definition.
Every time someone provides commentary on the Model Minority Myth, very few rarely get into the weeds of how it was developed to undermine the Black community and force a Inter-minority wave of anti-Blackness and Asian prejudice. I bring this up because it would do a lot to uplift Black and Asian solidarity, as well as inform DEI practices in the workplace.
FINALLY !!!
Not all Asians, Indians are taking CXO positions in a lot of firms.
This is what infuriates me so much about how all the minority recruitment programs at companies don't include Asians (save a tiny, tiny minority). They are significantly underrepresented in management due to decades of discrimination just like other minorities. Not to mention that Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, Thai, Filipino, and other Southeast Asian ethnicities on average have economic and educational profiles that are far worse than the average American, rather than much higher like Indians, Chinese, and Koreans who are often held up by whites as the "model minority Asians."
I will stay in Asia ☺
To live in America as an Asian is to suffer. With all the recent violence and discrimination it is not worth it.
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2:14 But Asian-Americans were born and raised in America, not Japan or China. If we take this man's word, it is that culture and beliefs, taught and learned in the home, which hold Asians back. Is it a case of failure to assimilate due to a un-compatible culture taught in the home, as is often the case with other minorities, which explain what they are passed over for leadership positions?
That demeanor change is a big one I notice
hm, are these "model" Asians? Why'd they choose to interview all those who had changed their hair color? Weird.
“No matter how many hours you put, it doesn’t matter” duhhh that’s the truth when you live in any part of the world.
If you're an Asian American working in corporate america, you know how insanely true it is that we are often overlooked for management positions. Media perceived us as submissive people so we often do not get handed the benefit of doubt. Think of the last 50 films you watched. How many times have you seen an alpha or competent Asian character? Not often. We are often the sidekick, perverted clown, the nerd, etc...
In my own experience, I've always been talked down on in the office. The more correct I am, the more retaliation I get. If you're Asian working in corporate America, I have one sad advice for you: just agree and make powerful people feel good / laugh. Once I focused on agreeing and entertaining people, the more my salary increased. Very few people recognize merit.
On top of that, you should really be growing your investment portfolio and have several side gigs. :). Cheers!
lol. You obviously never worked anywhere outside of corporate. If you dont like sucking up look for a diff job in a small company. Skill is not a requirement when working for corporate or upper management. Just keep your month shut and agree with whatever management says. Its not an Asian thing only.
Become an entrepreneur. Don't stick with victimhood culture of Westerners. If they don't want you at the top create your own presence. Freelance if it means you are free from the shackles of corporate.
Kente Goto, i think like the rest of us you are in the matrix, whereby you can't name the ethnicity that is putting road blocks so you use words such as " we are often.. " " we are perceived". So you can diagnose an illness but you refuse to put a name on it. Dude be a man about this. tell caucasians to their face when they are being racist.
So you actually tolerate being talked down to on the ground that you are building your potfolio *en catimini* and you are waiting for an opportunity to jump ship. this is the key trait of double consciousness many asians have in this country. like the character from the film GET OUT. where this asian guy only makes moves when everyone is focused on the only black person in the room.
weird...not one mention of the Indian Folks who are senior directors of engineering departments...?
Asian Americans are so cool. My wife is from the Philippines. Asian Americans are very smart. I was in the Philippines for 19 months. Why I came back to the States with them is to have them see how Americans are. Me and my wife plan getting a duel Visa.
I respect Asian's. My wife as an Asian American, she don't get treated fairly. We have been married for 8 years come June 6. Her family missing her an our son. My wife mom is old (80's), so we are going back to the Philippines soon. I don't want my mother-in-law to pass away with Jennifer being here.
I am so proud of Asian people. You guys are wonderful. Asian Americans are very good people and everyone need to respect them.
I would love to see all of Asia and see the beauty it has to offer. Every part of Asia has it's own sets of priorities, just like the US. You have your good areas and bad areas. And the thing with Asian's they help each other. Yeah, not allot of them have allot of money, but they support there neighbors.
A few questions:
If the people of Philippines are so smart how come that their standards of living are so low?
About being treated fairly. How Chinese people are treated in the Philippines and Indonesia?
Asian Americans are very smart. Can you elaborate which ethnic and racial groups are nos as smart as Asians?
@@RG-qt2fk, In the Philippines they like the simple life. Being there and just reading about it, is 2 different thing. Asian has it own problems to deal with just like the US.
@@Penlandadam So in the Philippines they like living in slams
without running water with dirty children roaming hungry on the filthy streets.
They like the local underage girls serving the Western tourists.
The like police busy with extra-judicial killings cheered and encouraged by Duterte.
They like rampant corruption and unbelievable inequality.
They call it "simple life" right?
So why can't we adopt this model of "simple life" here and stop complaining?
But then why so many from the Philippines leave the country as soon as they can?
Another question is why the media is trying to inflame tension and discontent in the USA while obfuscating the truth about the horrible problems outside the USA?
Horrible treatment of women, cast systems everywhere, systemic discrimination of Chinese people, genocides, and so on.
Why do you contribute to this with your "simple life" comment
@@RG-qt2fk, the area I was in Pila, Laguna about an hour and 15 minutes to Manila, it was not like that. You think so down on other countries, you have not seen. Yeah, the water is bad for us Americans, but ok for them. I never drink the water there. It was from a company that filters water with my electric bill.
My wife family lives in good areas. You need to have an open mind about other countries and not just on what you hear about that.
Try to visit other places. If you don't see it, you will always be close minded. The World has some great places. What we see on the TV is not all true. It is misleading.
@@Penlandadam So you deliberately dismissed the abject poverty and the human right violations because it suits your narrative.
Basically you came to the poor country flashed your US dollars and they served you desperate as they are.
You need to have an open mind and to see the life of the people around you not as a Western tourist pleased with being treated as a royalty. And I am correct about why many Western male tourists come to places like the Philippines and Thailand.
Try to understand what you see next time.
Funny if what we see on the TV is not all true does it include the leftist propaganda on UA-cam?
According to the video fortune 100 company have 4 ceos who are asian which is about 4%. Google says "in 2018, asian americans comprise of 5.4% of the US population." So what's the problem here, why are people here complaining? Will one more ceo in the fortune 100 companies make the myth go away?
Asian workers make up more that 5.4 percent of workers.
@@organizedchaos4559 they simply don't strive for leadership positions. Can't give someone a higher role if they don't ask for it.
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@@theendurance oh so now you gonna put the blame on them
@@organizedchaos4559 Just google what percentage of asian americans are in US. It now show 5.7% for 2019.
Why they complaining they have the best stereotypes. For my ethnic group our stereotype is to cutting grass and that all of us are Mexicans.
@yaskween definitely agree man. I wish race issues were completely resolved and we could focus on improving/furthering science and innovation.
Theres some negative stereotypes for them as well. That Asian men are less desired sexually, meek and mild etc
Who are YOU to tell Asian Americans that Asian Americans can't explain the racism they have to live with everyday? Let them tell their story. Latinos and Blacks have been in the spotlight since the 20th century. This battle will eventually HELP other minorities too so chill and let them air their grievances. You have no right to tell Asian Americans that they should stay quiet. That's EXACTLY the type of racism they deal with.
Stfu
@@TheBlackDorothyZbornak none of which will get you killed.
Here’s the thing. Training and Development opportunities should be made available for everyone. That’s where I take serious issue with this video. Hello black women are routinely undervalued and underpaid. Asians by in large aren’t underpaid. So at least Asians have the economic power and ability to live a comfortable life after years of hard word. Black women are left living in poverty and raising children in poverty despite years of hard work
Anyone question how this video compared percentages? Like what??!
The facts are true but honestly I don't want to be a manager or a ceo it's too white at the top. I like being handsomely paid and left to my own devices but appreciated. Asians are very crafty we find a way to get to where we want and overcome adversity.
To the person who is reading this: you are beautiful don't listen to the negativity
LOL apparently you haven't seen me or your eyes are not working.
What about Nigerian Americans? They're super high achieving too
😂, where are you getting all these false narrative from.
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Actually, it's black people, especially West Africans that have the highest learning attainment. Look, at the 2019 college cheating scandal which revealed that West African Ph.D. grads were being paid to do white UK and U.S. college students' essays and entire coursework, from English, math, history, S.T.E.M., engineering, etc.
Out of curiosity how many non asians are in management and ceos of japenese and Chinese countries? Less than 1% and China has a higher population. Is china systemically racist for not having minority ceos
Uh, those 2 countries have a homogeneous population since a long way back. The US has always been a migrant country. More people speak English than Mandarin or Japanese. You can't even spell Japanese.
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@@edenassos u do realise mandarin is the most spoken language in the world Right not English which is third? Reason Asian are dominant in business in Asian countries is because there a majority. In the US Asians are 5.4% of the population. A tiny minority in comparison to the 73% majority white. Not all Asians go into business so you probably only have something like less than 0.5% going for these jobs. That's why there are a minority. When they apply for jobs there heavily outnumbered by equally qualified white, black and Hispanic people
@@jameswelsh4479 Uh, that metric is wrong in this context since I'm taking into account both natives and non-natives.
@@edenassos my metric is right weather native or non native Asians going for top business jobs are few and far between in comparison to other races.
CNBC: Asian Americans out of Management.
Silicon Valley: ?????
It's not about high I.Q jobs, but ordinary ones.
it's happened in every country in the different way
The truth is people are people and their skin culture or background doesn’t matter. This constant bringing up people’s skin color or cultural background is poisoning society. There are the fortunate few who develop skills and talents to make it to the top of their chosen life path, then there are the 99.9% who don’t do as well. It takes education, drive, determination, hard work, support and a certain amount of luck for anyone to move much above the point of their social economic origins.
When that guys say no one there to help me and guide me. Then how you become CEO? You parents at least help you out. I think his lying. Don’t you live by yourself? No one there for guilds you? And he say most Asian don’t have anything, you have someone and other have no electricity? No all rich people can be leader and not all leader are rich people.
i don't wan this to sound rude or wrong, but what do african americans have to do with this???
7:07: Must be racism. I’m 100% sure there’s no other explanation. Keep up the great work on UA-cam. I can tell you’re going to go far.
Maybe they just wanted someone who was more traditionally attractive to lead the project. Who knows? I wouldn't have immediately jumped to race, if there was a more obvious culprit that was so plain to see.
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@@davis3138 yeah they said, tall white man. So do you agree that short man aren't considered either. So this is not just a problem from race, it's more specific than that.
@@paulgotik Pretty privilege? Lol, reminds me of Harrison Bergeron
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Can we stop grouping south Asians and East Asians as one group... Asian? I mean the concept of “Asia” is Eurocentric created by ... Europeans.