They're called DAPs which stands for Digital Audio Players. People in this market that buy these players don't listen to mp3 files because of their low resolution. flac, DSD, WAV, MQA and the like are what they listen to; CD quality and above only. Phones also can't drive the headphones that they like to use (save for LG's quad DAC equipped phones that had decent amplifiers as well). If you knew, sorry to bore you. If you didn't, check it out. You'll understand why there's a market for this stuff.
@@orangeyellow-me1pz Plenty of "mp3 players" support much more file formats, including ones which allow higher quality. It's just a term, doesn't mean they literally only play mp3s.
I never stopped listening to music through MP3 players. Streaming is limited by your internet connection, phone storage is taken up by other media and apps and I like owning my music.
Yeah, I can also see limited phone storage space as a major issue and a big reason why people would rather have a dedicated music player with its own storage dedicated to audio files. Plus this saves phone battery life!
@@studiomg3212 phones are also huge now which makes it a pain for sports. (And a higher risk of it falling out of pockets). That's half the reason I'm considering one now where i wasn't 10 years ago (edit - considering one of the cheap $40 ones that is. For $350 I'd buy a nice boombox instead)
@@Dwayneff a lot is probably hyperbolic. The only market left seems to be high end ones for audiophiles and incredibly cheap ones that get tossed at children
@@xAlexZifko Apple would sell out instantly if they did an iPod Classic rework. Consumerist behavior is up, nostalgia is a powerful factor, and we've seen similar but less useful products, ie. rerelease of PS1 and NES, instantly sell out and become a flipper's item.
I just use an LG G3 6200mah batt up to 2 TB of SD storage the most powerful processor for 2014 in terms of single core I have 22,000 items on a sd card and it's fine the LG G3 for me I had a really expensive price tag though $13 with $20 new batt 6200mah
The biggest reason for most music players still existing will be enhanced sound quality, tho probably the cheaper ones aren’t as much of a jump. Also a lot of people just want to not be bothered by 5 billion notifications on their phones while listening to music, or just are tired of modern smartphone world. Tho this player running android 13 is smashing that idea a bit
Look up the Surfans F20, I’ve had mine for 2 years and still love it. It has a spinning wheel and physical buttons that are very satisfying to use. One thing to note is that it only supports up 15,000 songs no matter how large the as card. I only have a couple thousand and half of them I never listen to but I’ve heard some people say that’s not enough.
Honestly, if you’re willing to give up Bluetooth audio and streaming, a PSP still makes a great audio player! It’s easy to expand the storage these days, sounds great, and is super easy to fit in a pocket
The sound quality is kind of mediocre, and doesn't get very loud over headphones. And without the in-line remote, the screen turns on every time you skip a song or play/pause. And it's not THAT small, especially the PSP 1000. But the visualizer is pretty cool (especially the squares one, and the wallpaper ripple one). Probably the best portable media device to use to time travel back to the mid to late 2000s.
i bought an mp3 player recently and was so disappointed to find out that it doesn't have a bluetooth connection. i was so looking forward to using it on my car stereo
A while ago I went to the local chain electronics store to see if they still sold small MP3 players, and yes! Got one with a tiny screen and a clip for about 20€ I think. It's perfect, because I skate, and when I'm at the skatepark, I'm afraid I may fall and break my phone, so I put it aside with my stuff and listen to music on my tiny MP3 loaded with a few playlists instead, in case it does break, it's no big deal
I fucking hate modern MP3 players. I NEED button feedback. I hate fumbling around with a touchscreen or lighting up a 700 foot radius at night with an LCD screen. Give me buttons and a pixel display, no wifi, no apps, just music
I love how cultured you are, my man. I thought majority of audiophiles are just into listening classical, eccentric songs which i personally don’t recognize. Probably because im young, and wasn’t into much genre as much (just mainly pop, rap, a bit of edm and r&b). Seeing an audiophile actually listens to suisei and hatsune miku really made me happy 😆
Got a Walkman a couple years back. Just having access to the features that a phone doesn't have, and not need to rely on subscriptions or WiFi is great. Plus, no ping or notifications, and it had its own battery - so if my phone is dying, I can still listen to music. I have a dedicated camera for similar reasons. Decentralizing entirely from my phone is one of my goals for this year. 😂
I've been using a cheap but pretty good MP3 player when I do my workouts. It allows me to focus more on my workouts by getting rid of potential distractions. I only have 1 hour for my workouts every day, so I need to make the best of it.
@@damianriver4482 I've got three different players from three different brands: a Ruizu, a Zyzy, and a no name brand. I don't remember the model name/number. They're all Chinese brands.
Same here. I posted a video not too long ago and it’s surprisingly usable in 2023. Only thing I’d change today is the cable port, but I love the little bugger 😊
@@orangeyellow-me1pz I’m not a demanding person 😂 to expand on my comment, if I could have a single update to the iPod, it would be the cable port change to USB-C. All the changes you suggest are good, no two ways about it
The biggest advantage is that you keep whatever music you buy and put in it. Some people might be tired of the ever increasing monthlies from streaming platforms.
I still use an mp3 player because I travel 4hrs one way to the office a week, so 8hrs roundway, and even with power banks it's easier to have a separate device for music so that my phone battery isn't drained. I have the Sony walkman that's a usb stick.
@@masterace9543 yeah used ipod is cheaper lol. and those sony daps are literal tank. if you really want it i recc you to buy the used one too lol. buying a new one is not Worth it imo.
I use my old LG V40 as my digital audio player. It has a 32 bit built in DAC that makes the sound on wired connections sound so much better. It also has expandable memory, so storage is a non issue. It plays any format i want, MP3, FLAC, etc. And its way easier to transfer music to than an iPod.
As a privacy conscious person, MP3 players need to make a comeback because our phones leak so much data about us. With an mp3 player, especially the new ones, I can enjoy the luxuries of listening to music and podcasts without sacrificing my privacy. I can keep my phone in a faraday bag and just listen to my mp3 player whenever I don’t need my phone
Why FK you are commenting about privacy when you are using YT ?you mean they only data leak when you play music on phone 😂? First smash your phone OS and install and install Graphene OS , then have MicroG for Google app alternatives , and disable all permission for them except (net ) , and then you have right to talk about privacy lamfo.... Or be a good guy just download MP3 from internet ..
@@xninja2369 what makes you assume he isn't doing all of those already? Shows you are just saying shit just to sound smart for no reason lol Besides being privacy conscious doesn't mean they have to prevent data leaks from all the apps. It's about reducing as much data being shared as possible and it all depends on their threat model which you would know if you know anything about what it truly means to protect your digital privacy which you clearly don't, so like who tf are you to talk about who has the right to talk about privacy when you don't know shit yourself lmao
I found a sale so it cost me less than $5 to ship an iPod battery feom China to Brazil including shipping and taxes. 😅 I'll just wait and fix my iPod. Other than the battery it's un perfect condition
Bought a cheap android dap that can be used with a DAC and 128gb sd card. All my flacs are safely stored without me taking the sd card out for file transfers because it has usb-c. Best purchase for decluttering my phone and pc storage so far.
A modern mp3 player seems cool but I feel like my iPhone can do everything the same, I don't really need an SD card slot because even with lossless music, I won't have enough music to fill my storage and if I do, I can just use iCloud. My somewhat modern iPhone doesn't have an aux port, but I can just use the official lightning to aux adapter just fine. The only reason I would buy a modern mp3 player is if the output is cleaner and louder without distortion, and/or made to work with headphones that need more power.
80 seems more resonable considering if you wanna get an iPod touch it’s about 150 used and without the streaming capabilities the iPod nano 7th is a great pick and I’ve bought 2 for about 50-60 each considering the iPod nano has Bluetooth capabilities and a headphone jack too I’d say it’s a better buy
Weirdly enough, my number one thing when I was initially getting a DAP last year was that it _didn't_ run Android. I wanted a simple, single-use device that could deliver high quality playback. The whole point was to have fewer distractions when listening to my music, not simply migrating the same ones over to a different device.
But Android DAPs by default don't have the distractions of an Android phone. As much as "you can install anything from the Play store" gets brought up, in practice you just install your preferred streaming service or offline music player and maybe a tool to sync your collection and that's all you run. Sure you *can* go out of your way to install email or social media or whatever distractions but people should keep their eye on the prize and not forget why they bought the thing.
@@SaveMeAzathoth I'd rather just have a simple player that I can drag & drop files into without having to deal with extra nonsense while also avoiding the temptation of putting UA-cam, games, etc. on there when I just want a dedicated music playback device.
@@alertArchitect Don't get me wrong, I think that people with large music collections can get a lot of value from non-Android DAPs. The "this is sufficient, why pay more for more than I want?" factor is sufficient reason though without imagining temptations of Android that don't actually exist in practice. Android-based DAPs are generally sufficiently bad fit for running UA-cam or games that anyone worried about their lack of willpower is just going to give in to the temptation to pick up their smartphone long before they seriously consider having those apps on their music player.
@@SaveMeAzathoth I'm not "imagining temptations." I'm literally describing the biggest distractions I deal with on my phone on a daily basis thanks to my ADHD, which I specifically wanted to _avoid_ when getting a DAP so I could use it to focus on the music I love. I'm sure there are plenty of other neurodivergent people who agree with me that the temptation of being able to put those major distractions, such as UA-cam or small games, onto a device meant to be just for music is enough to justify avoiding Android entirely when purpose-buying a product for music playback. Also, as I said in my last comment, the bigger consideration was being able to simply drag-and-drop my music files and easily play them without needing an app - which you seemingly chose to ignore in favor of ridiculing the idea of apps _literally designed_ to entice you into doomscrolling with easy dopamine hits (something that especially traps ADHD folks like myself) being distracting temptations someone may want to eliminate entirely.
@@alertArchitect I didn't ignore that bigger consideration; I attempted to acknowledge it as good and sufficient before moving to what I disagreed with. I'm sorry that I messed up my choice of words there and muddied my intent. We are talking about devices that compared to your phone are not-always-on, not-always-connected, have mediocre screens, old processors, low ram, cramped storage already spoken for by the music collection, and (at least in some cases) painfully noticeable lag between audio and video. That's all friction against being used for things other than music. The second line of defence against those apps breaking through your intent to not install them in the first place is them not functioning as designed to generate dopamine and getting uninstalled in disgust. But maybe my imagination doesn't go far enough to understand the people who whom that still isn't enough and your experience is beyond me.
Plus you own your music. Phone have taken so much hdd space unless your willing to pay for the 1tb phone which will be way over priced They would make you use a streaming service to then pay another monthly bill and even then you don't get the music you want.. sadly this is needed.
iPod 7 with 16/44 ALAC or better 16/48 AIFF files - connected to a Wadia 170i giving the unmoleted signal digitaly out by S/PDIF to a DAC. An iPod 5.5 with a 3,5 to Chinch cable running into an amp does sound pretty good too - the less perfect sounding even more minimalist variant.
I Repurposed my S10 Plus 1TB + 512GB MicroSD as my personal Jukebox. Because I basically only listened upto 1 hour, this setup is PERFECT as I also have just replaced it's Battery
@@Leo1991 you can the slower speeds sandisks or samsung for a cheaper price. They lasts well over 7 years. Music storage does not require higzhspeeds so even the 1TB cards should be worth your while
You really need to understand that DAPs are very successful espcially in Asia. There are quiet a few making them and the quality is excellent compared to phones which are a compromise all around. They support HiRes audio and given they only play music all the money is spent on quality components for that purpose. They arent a novelty as you say.
I'm fully aware of their success in Asia, but that doesn't make them any less a novelty or niche like a CD player, vinyl or cassette. It's a device you use for a specific use case, where the mainstream will always gravitate towards phones as a general use device regardless of whether you're an American or are in China, Japan etc... There's a reason why stores like e-earphone are considered specialty, and why phones/BT headphones are on the first floor of Yodobashi Camera
I might have to look for one, I used to use my ipod touch, but something about the headphone jack is unhappy (maybe its the fact that its the second gen touch but yknow)
Personally... I would suggest to get an older LG phone, anything from the V30 and G7 and newer would be perfect for music not to mention its a decent backup camera for both video and photo.
Bro if you don't want to spend 200 dollars for something that shouldn’t be this much. Get a prepaid phone, they work perfectly fine and you don't have to have the worry of the $200 mp3 player running too slow. Prepaid phones go for like 30-70 bucks.
Neat for the buttons, everything else my Xperia does. If I am paying for a phone I expect it to have a headphone jack and slot for a micro sd. It is a little sad to see that Sony seems to be one of the last ones to understand it.
"And it even runs Android" That's the problem I have with most modern DAPs. They all run on Android with power hungry CPUs, so they don't last as long and take longer to charge. I want a DAp that I can play music on, hit pause, throw it in my bag and not worry about it for 8 hours and then hit play and almost immediatly continue where I left off with no battery wasted. That's what I love about my iPod.
I think it's a hybrid issue - people are sick and tired of having a billion subscription services, and don't want to drain their phone's battery to listen to music.
I like the idea of single-purpose devices like these on an ideological level. Phones have melted our brains. It does everything, and has every feature, but does it poorly.
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I like to see a video of modern mp3 players
They're called DAPs which stands for Digital Audio Players. People in this market that buy these players don't listen to mp3 files because of their low resolution. flac, DSD, WAV, MQA and the like are what they listen to; CD quality and above only. Phones also can't drive the headphones that they like to use (save for LG's quad DAC equipped phones that had decent amplifiers as well). If you knew, sorry to bore you. If you didn't, check it out. You'll understand why there's a market for this stuff.
@@orangeyellow-me1pz yep. Mostly audiophile-grade stuff.
I agree
you can check out the brand fiio.
@@orangeyellow-me1pz Plenty of "mp3 players" support much more file formats, including ones which allow higher quality. It's just a term, doesn't mean they literally only play mp3s.
I never stopped listening to music through MP3 players. Streaming is limited by your internet connection, phone storage is taken up by other media and apps and I like owning my music.
Exactly!
amen.
and also you don't worn out your phone battery if you listen to music whole day
i use plex and plexamp
I like owning my own music too.
this is not an mp3, is a hi-res player, which means it can play hi-fi music and run headphones that consume a lot of power.
@helenastutzmann2638 so basically it runs flac which is much better quality then mp3 player's correct?
@@davetech356 basically
If mp3 players gain momentum. I think they will make a comeback. A lot of people are tired of using their phones as mp3 players
Yeah, I can also see limited phone storage space as a major issue and a big reason why people would rather have a dedicated music player with its own storage dedicated to audio files. Plus this saves phone battery life!
@@studiomg3212 phones are also huge now which makes it a pain for sports. (And a higher risk of it falling out of pockets). That's half the reason I'm considering one now where i wasn't 10 years ago (edit - considering one of the cheap $40 ones that is. For $350 I'd buy a nice boombox instead)
@@Dwayneff a lot is probably hyperbolic. The only market left seems to be high end ones for audiophiles and incredibly cheap ones that get tossed at children
@@xAlexZifko Apple would sell out instantly if they did an iPod Classic rework.
Consumerist behavior is up, nostalgia is a powerful factor, and we've seen similar but less useful products, ie. rerelease of PS1 and NES, instantly sell out and become a flipper's item.
I'm not I just use youtube music premium
Please make a video about newer mp3 players!
I just use an LG G3 6200mah batt up to 2 TB of SD storage the most powerful processor for 2014 in terms of single core I have 22,000 items on a sd card and it's fine the LG G3 for me I had a really expensive price tag though $13 with $20 new batt 6200mah
The biggest reason for most music players still existing will be enhanced sound quality, tho probably the cheaper ones aren’t as much of a jump. Also a lot of people just want to not be bothered by 5 billion notifications on their phones while listening to music, or just are tired of modern smartphone world. Tho this player running android 13 is smashing that idea a bit
✅✅
Just turn off notifications.
Call me old-fashioned, but I'd rather have something with an iPod style click wheel
Look up the Surfans F20, I’ve had mine for 2 years and still love it. It has a spinning wheel and physical buttons that are very satisfying to use. One thing to note is that it only supports up 15,000 songs no matter how large the as card. I only have a couple thousand and half of them I never listen to but I’ve heard some people say that’s not enough.
FiiO made something like that in the past but it's just so outdated now, especially if you have a very large library.
Best interface!
The Fiio X1 is the best option right now
You're not old-fashioned, but Classic.
Honestly, if you’re willing to give up Bluetooth audio and streaming, a PSP still makes a great audio player! It’s easy to expand the storage these days, sounds great, and is super easy to fit in a pocket
i miss it's inline remote, that thing was so fucking cool back in the day.
The sound quality is kind of mediocre, and doesn't get very loud over headphones. And without the in-line remote, the screen turns on every time you skip a song or play/pause. And it's not THAT small, especially the PSP 1000.
But the visualizer is pretty cool (especially the squares one, and the wallpaper ripple one). Probably the best portable media device to use to time travel back to the mid to late 2000s.
i use a homebrewed 3ds!
i bought an mp3 player recently and was so disappointed to find out that it doesn't have a bluetooth connection. i was so looking forward to using it on my car stereo
A while ago I went to the local chain electronics store to see if they still sold small MP3 players, and yes! Got one with a tiny screen and a clip for about 20€ I think. It's perfect, because I skate, and when I'm at the skatepark, I'm afraid I may fall and break my phone, so I put it aside with my stuff and listen to music on my tiny MP3 loaded with a few playlists instead, in case it does break, it's no big deal
I fucking hate modern MP3 players. I NEED button feedback. I hate fumbling around with a touchscreen or lighting up a 700 foot radius at night with an LCD screen. Give me buttons and a pixel display, no wifi, no apps, just music
@@Pigeonswain see you get it
I love how cultured you are, my man. I thought majority of audiophiles are just into listening classical, eccentric songs which i personally don’t recognize. Probably because im young, and wasn’t into much genre as much (just mainly pop, rap, a bit of edm and r&b). Seeing an audiophile actually listens to suisei and hatsune miku really made me happy 😆
Plenty of audiophiles listen to rock, metal, kpop, jpop, rap, etc.
@ that’s nice to hear ngl
This guy is one of my favorite people in the history of UA-cam.
Got a Walkman a couple years back. Just having access to the features that a phone doesn't have, and not need to rely on subscriptions or WiFi is great. Plus, no ping or notifications, and it had its own battery - so if my phone is dying, I can still listen to music.
I have a dedicated camera for similar reasons. Decentralizing entirely from my phone is one of my goals for this year. 😂
I've been using a cheap but pretty good MP3 player when I do my workouts. It allows me to focus more on my workouts by getting rid of potential distractions. I only have 1 hour for my workouts every day, so I need to make the best of it.
What's the name of the mp3 player?
@@damianriver4482 I've got three different players from three different brands: a Ruizu, a Zyzy, and a no name brand. I don't remember the model name/number. They're all Chinese brands.
Huge respect for putting in Suisei's NCP lol
The main reason they exist is great built-in dac's that improve audio quality
it always makes me so happy to see ken constantly shilling his oshis lmao
I just use my iPod Nano 3rd generation from 2007 now that thing is a masterpiece
Same here. I posted a video not too long ago and it’s surprisingly usable in 2023. Only thing I’d change today is the cable port, but I love the little bugger 😊
@@guaiqueritech I've seen your channel before you deserve more subscribers
@@guaiqueritechyou wouldn't want more power? Removable storage? Support for better audio codecs?
@@Drayton226 wow, this comment meant my day. Thanks!!
@@orangeyellow-me1pz I’m not a demanding person 😂 to expand on my comment, if I could have a single update to the iPod, it would be the cable port change to USB-C. All the changes you suggest are good, no two ways about it
The biggest advantage is that you keep whatever music you buy and put in it. Some people might be tired of the ever increasing monthlies from streaming platforms.
Oh man I want that 😭, but it's expensive
I still use an mp3 player because I travel 4hrs one way to the office a week, so 8hrs roundway, and even with power banks it's easier to have a separate device for music so that my phone battery isn't drained. I have the Sony walkman that's a usb stick.
The sony entry one starts at $300, mid tier $1,300 and top tier at $3,300.
Jesus I can just get a old ipod for half the price 😅
@@masterace9543 yeah used ipod is cheaper lol. and those sony daps are literal tank. if you really want it i recc you to buy the used one too lol. buying a new one is not Worth it imo.
@@masterace9543 there's even $ 10.000 version now
Not related but i love your tshirt collection man
I use my old LG V40 as my digital audio player. It has a 32 bit built in DAC that makes the sound on wired connections sound so much better. It also has expandable memory, so storage is a non issue. It plays any format i want, MP3, FLAC, etc. And its way easier to transfer music to than an iPod.
Is the audio output quality good? Thats what matters to me
Your smartwatch can play local files too.
They exist because some people don't like cheap Bluetooth sound quality and want a proper anadigi interface.
I don't want to stream with my digital music player. It's my music, I found it.
As a privacy conscious person, MP3 players need to make a comeback because our phones leak so much data about us. With an mp3 player, especially the new ones, I can enjoy the luxuries of listening to music and podcasts without sacrificing my privacy. I can keep my phone in a faraday bag and just listen to my mp3 player whenever I don’t need my phone
Why FK you are commenting about privacy when you are using YT ?you mean they only data leak when you play music on phone 😂?
First smash your phone OS and install and install Graphene OS , then have MicroG for Google app alternatives , and disable all permission for them except (net ) , and then you have right to talk about privacy lamfo....
Or be a good guy just download MP3 from internet ..
@@xninja2369 what makes you assume he isn't doing all of those already? Shows you are just saying shit just to sound smart for no reason lol
Besides being privacy conscious doesn't mean they have to prevent data leaks from all the apps. It's about reducing as much data being shared as possible and it all depends on their threat model which you would know if you know anything about what it truly means to protect your digital privacy which you clearly don't, so like who tf are you to talk about who has the right to talk about privacy when you don't know shit yourself lmao
buy one of the LG's smartphone with QuadDAC, V30 or G7 and have Android, 3,5jack, sd card
Miles needs you bruh
That's a very nice DAP (Digital Audio Player) ngl.
I found a sale so it cost me less than $5 to ship an iPod battery feom China to Brazil including shipping and taxes. 😅 I'll just wait and fix my iPod. Other than the battery it's un perfect condition
You left out the dedicated DAC integration, that improves the by far the sound quality
Did not expect to see Suisei but a pleasant surprise
Mp3 and cds>>>
Bought a cheap android dap that can be used with a DAC and 128gb sd card. All my flacs are safely stored without me taking the sd card out for file transfers because it has usb-c. Best purchase for decluttering my phone and pc storage so far.
@@Royal_R3GALIA which one did you buy? I’m looking for one not as pricey as the ones mentioned!
@@nathaliedurieux3588 it's the ruizu z80
Better keep your old phones as music library. After 2-3 years your current phone and so on
A modern mp3 player seems cool but I feel like my iPhone can do everything the same, I don't really need an SD card slot because even with lossless music, I won't have enough music to fill my storage and if I do, I can just use iCloud. My somewhat modern iPhone doesn't have an aux port, but I can just use the official lightning to aux adapter just fine. The only reason I would buy a modern mp3 player is if the output is cleaner and louder without distortion, and/or made to work with headphones that need more power.
That Re;package album amongst his Miku collection is why I upvoted.
Yea these are sick, I think some even have built in DACs to use ya know, real headphones
We need more of these
As someone who gets in trouble at work for pulling out my phone just to skip through music, physical buttons are sorely missed.
wow!!! i love the yellow ipod!! 😍💖
I miss fisical buttons.
You should review a walkman A55
I fixed my old iPhones to use as mp3 but used my minidisk Walkman instead because it still works
There's also great offering from Fiio but bit expansive, Great quality though
laughs in Astell&Kern
thinking about it as a bike mounted gps/mp3 player
80 seems more resonable considering if you wanna get an iPod touch it’s about 150 used and without the streaming capabilities the iPod nano 7th is a great pick and I’ve bought 2 for about 50-60 each considering the iPod nano has Bluetooth capabilities and a headphone jack too I’d say it’s a better buy
Weirdly enough, my number one thing when I was initially getting a DAP last year was that it _didn't_ run Android. I wanted a simple, single-use device that could deliver high quality playback. The whole point was to have fewer distractions when listening to my music, not simply migrating the same ones over to a different device.
But Android DAPs by default don't have the distractions of an Android phone. As much as "you can install anything from the Play store" gets brought up, in practice you just install your preferred streaming service or offline music player and maybe a tool to sync your collection and that's all you run. Sure you *can* go out of your way to install email or social media or whatever distractions but people should keep their eye on the prize and not forget why they bought the thing.
@@SaveMeAzathoth I'd rather just have a simple player that I can drag & drop files into without having to deal with extra nonsense while also avoiding the temptation of putting UA-cam, games, etc. on there when I just want a dedicated music playback device.
@@alertArchitect Don't get me wrong, I think that people with large music collections can get a lot of value from non-Android DAPs. The "this is sufficient, why pay more for more than I want?" factor is sufficient reason though without imagining temptations of Android that don't actually exist in practice.
Android-based DAPs are generally sufficiently bad fit for running UA-cam or games that anyone worried about their lack of willpower is just going to give in to the temptation to pick up their smartphone long before they seriously consider having those apps on their music player.
@@SaveMeAzathoth I'm not "imagining temptations." I'm literally describing the biggest distractions I deal with on my phone on a daily basis thanks to my ADHD, which I specifically wanted to _avoid_ when getting a DAP so I could use it to focus on the music I love. I'm sure there are plenty of other neurodivergent people who agree with me that the temptation of being able to put those major distractions, such as UA-cam or small games, onto a device meant to be just for music is enough to justify avoiding Android entirely when purpose-buying a product for music playback.
Also, as I said in my last comment, the bigger consideration was being able to simply drag-and-drop my music files and easily play them without needing an app - which you seemingly chose to ignore in favor of ridiculing the idea of apps _literally designed_ to entice you into doomscrolling with easy dopamine hits (something that especially traps ADHD folks like myself) being distracting temptations someone may want to eliminate entirely.
@@alertArchitect I didn't ignore that bigger consideration; I attempted to acknowledge it as good and sufficient before moving to what I disagreed with. I'm sorry that I messed up my choice of words there and muddied my intent.
We are talking about devices that compared to your phone are not-always-on, not-always-connected, have mediocre screens, old processors, low ram, cramped storage already spoken for by the music collection, and (at least in some cases) painfully noticeable lag between audio and video. That's all friction against being used for things other than music. The second line of defence against those apps breaking through your intent to not install them in the first place is them not functioning as designed to generate dopamine and getting uninstalled in disgust.
But maybe my imagination doesn't go far enough to understand the people who whom that still isn't enough and your experience is beyond me.
train drivers. they can’t hold a mobile phone, but can use something that’s not connected like this music player
I LITERALLY CAME HERE TO UPLOAD A MIKU MUSIC VIDEO TO MY MP3 WHKSGWIDHD
(its Supernova by Yunosuke)
Bro where's ur jawline?
Am I the only one who still listens CD walkman everyday in bedtime
Plus you own your music.
Phone have taken so much hdd space unless your willing to pay for the 1tb phone which will be way over priced
They would make you use a streaming service to then pay another monthly bill and even then you don't get the music you want.. sadly this is needed.
Or you just get a budget phone and pirate the music?🤷🏽♂️
Using a spare iPhone 5 as my dedicated music player
iPod 7 with 16/44 ALAC or better 16/48 AIFF files - connected to a Wadia 170i giving the unmoleted signal digitaly out by S/PDIF to a DAC.
An iPod 5.5 with a 3,5 to Chinch cable running into an amp does sound pretty good too - the less perfect sounding even more minimalist variant.
I use my old phone from 2013 as my mp3 player
i'm going back into a dedicated music player right now. this is connected to wifi though...still too connected for me. looks cool though.
Not mentioning the supported formats is superlame
I’ll love to go back to an iPod video but I don’t want to deal with wired earphones anymore
I Repurposed my S10 Plus 1TB + 512GB MicroSD as my personal Jukebox. Because I basically only listened upto 1 hour, this setup is PERFECT as I also have just replaced it's Battery
I still also have my s10+ with its original battery, though the poor man’s version with 128 gig. Might also buy a 512 and use it for music only 😁
@@Leo1991 you can the slower speeds sandisks or samsung for a cheaper price. They lasts well over 7 years. Music storage does not require higzhspeeds so even the 1TB cards should be worth your while
How easy is it to refurbish an iPod for someone without tech refurbishing experience? The yellow iPod looks sooo good
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You really need to understand that DAPs are very successful espcially in Asia. There are quiet a few making them and the quality is excellent compared to phones which are a compromise all around. They support HiRes audio and given they only play music all the money is spent on quality components for that purpose. They arent a novelty as you say.
I'm fully aware of their success in Asia, but that doesn't make them any less a novelty or niche like a CD player, vinyl or cassette.
It's a device you use for a specific use case, where the mainstream will always gravitate towards phones as a general use device regardless of whether you're an American or are in China, Japan etc...
There's a reason why stores like e-earphone are considered specialty, and why phones/BT headphones are on the first floor of Yodobashi Camera
Are those CD900ST? If so, slap on some Yaxi StPad2
Dude! This looks so cool. I love the idea of it, but I couldn’t get rid of my phone. Even though I want to go back to a flip phone.
I might have to look for one, I used to use my ipod touch, but something about the headphone jack is unhappy
(maybe its the fact that its the second gen touch but yknow)
Running Android turns me off, I just want a dedicated offline music player that can play my backed up physical media.
super highend of these made my eyes pop out
These devices should have generic os for better longevity and not feel outdated
If honestly like seeing a full video on this like the Sony one from a while back
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If you said it was a modern tape reader, I would of believed you.
Personally... I would suggest to get an older LG phone, anything from the V30 and G7 and newer would be perfect for music not to mention its a decent backup camera for both video and photo.
Bro if you don't want to spend 200 dollars for something that shouldn’t be this much. Get a prepaid phone, they work perfectly fine and you don't have to have the worry of the $200 mp3 player running too slow. Prepaid phones go for like 30-70 bucks.
Just curious is better than iPod 5.5 just for sound quality? What is your thought?
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if they just add a sim card slot, and it will me my next phone
Neat for the buttons, everything else my Xperia does. If I am paying for a phone I expect it to have a headphone jack and slot for a micro sd. It is a little sad to see that Sony seems to be one of the last ones to understand it.
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"And it even runs Android" That's the problem I have with most modern DAPs. They all run on Android with power hungry CPUs, so they don't last as long and take longer to charge. I want a DAp that I can play music on, hit pause, throw it in my bag and not worry about it for 8 hours and then hit play and almost immediatly continue where I left off with no battery wasted. That's what I love about my iPod.
I think it's a hybrid issue - people are sick and tired of having a billion subscription services, and don't want to drain their phone's battery to listen to music.
Can we get a head to head comparison with the Walkman player?
So does this need to be continuously updated??? I want something that does NOT need updating like ever!??? Suggestions please? 👍
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Bro here worried about explaining portable hifi while I'm over here playing with a mini disc player.
I like the idea of single-purpose devices like these on an ideological level. Phones have melted our brains. It does everything, and has every feature, but does it poorly.
Let me know what you think. Thats concept. Even the older days its hard to find that.
Sorry for the ignorance but, is the yellow Ipod Classic a 5gen?¿ Thanks!
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Have you tried moondrop phone I think you will like it 😊
The moondrop miad needs a review~
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