How to upgrade weapons correctly - Cyberpunk 2077
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Cyberpunk 2077
How to upgrade weapons correctly
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Please note that this is an outdated tutorial that works only with versions 1.2 or older
There is an updated 2.0 tutorial video here: • Crafting vs. Upgrading...
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Please note that this is an outdated tutorial video that works only with versions 1.2 or older.
There is an updated 2.0 tutorial video here: ua-cam.com/video/v_lLADg3veg/v-deo.html
I feel like crafting should have been a mechanic outside of the perk tree. It should've been something any build can do without having to invest in Technical Ability because it feels like such an important aspect of the game, that it's weird that you can miss out on it depending on your build.
Each aspect of the game feel important. Like Hacking is so important and if you have no intel it's dog shit, Cool is important cause it make or break character it's so important that it feel like I miss something if I don't have it. The only stats that feel like they are just for combat is Strength and Dex
It would break immersion even more, as it does ATM. I don`t think that a gonk with 3 INT an 3 TECH should be able to craft high end gear on its own.
The crafting system is underdeveloped. You can craft anytime, anywhere just opening your inventory, even during driving.
I know this would be an unpopular opinion... crafting should be done at workbenches. With high TECH you should be do it on your own in the apartment using parts, or with low TECH at a gun-shop for money. It would be a reason to go home apart of the cat, the lizard and to read e-mails.
Interestingly you can access your stash from any vehicle, but cant read your emails on the phone...
@@szabolcskecskes its not Fallout.
@@szabolcskecskes i like where you are going, it would also give you an actual reason so that your build would make you abke to craft or not. but i would still leave the possibility open to anyone, like you said from making someone do it for you, and like with enough cool or street level you might get it cheaper. it's incredible what this game could have actually been
Actually you can have it with most builds except Netrunner path. Most useful perks don't need actually to level up your abilities to 20. The only stats that you really need maxed for a good build are either Intelligence if you go the Netrunner route to craft legendary hacks or Technical Ability to craft legendary weapons. Pretty much all the rest you get the most imba stuff before 20. As to the cyberware though,, yeah it's tough when you can't equip it because you don't have high enough stats :/
Yeah, here’s a simple breakdown of how it actually works:
When you upgrade a weapon you are increasing its level by 1 up to your current level with the max being 50.
Most guns you find will match the level you were when you found them.
When you increase the rarity, NOT UPGRADE, it will be leveled up to one below your current level. So if you find the satori at say level 10 then increase its rarity at 20 it will craft the epic version at level 19, saving you a lot of components on upgrading.
HOWEVER, due to how cheaply components can be purchased for I recommend you upgrade your weapon as you play as it will keep the weapon from becoming obsolete.
What I recommend is upgrading your weapon as you level, but increase the rarity at specific levels, say keep it rare until level 20 then make it legendary at level 30. You can also just upgrade it as soon as you unlock the required perk instead.
Due to the way upgrading works there’s really no reason to wait. Components can be purchased very cheap (those components in shops aren’t 3k a piece, it’s 3k for a stack of 100 legendary components) and you can’t mess up the leveling as suggested in this video. This was an old bug that was displaying the wrong values.
Hope this helped!
Thanks you for the info...
My video was showing my results based on using "Trial and Error" method with upgrading, but it seems you provided more accurate information.
Thanks, mate.
I like your name 😄
So if i pick a shit comon from the begining of the game and make it uncomon at lvl 50 it will become a super weapon for almost free?
Wait I don't understand exactly... does this mean the video is wrong and you don't have to worry about leveling it up to max before increasing the rarity? Or should you still follow the video?
Cheap components? Like legendary? Where?
This is no longer the case in 1.6. Save your components and upgrade to legendary immediately. Upgrading prior has no effect to final dps
lmao don't tell me that bro.. for the past three days I've been upgrading my uncommon sword
Isn’t it cheaper component wise to upgrade lower rarities. So by only upgrading rarity when you need to, you can save on component cost.
@@acb9318upgrading rarity brings it up one level behind so its a waste
@@oswaldomontes1234 Sorry man, I did the same thing for a bit before finally testing it and was pissed I had wasted so many components previously 😅
why can’t i craft satori ? for some reason i don’t see it in my craft inventory
That "load save" moment felt like eternity
i was thinking the same thing. he must use an hdd
What's actually happening, is secondary stats are randomised on craft.
The first legendary craft had +100% bonus to Critical Damage, while the second had +100%(?) bonus to attack speed (caps at 5 per sec).
The dps is simply base damage x attack per second, so obviously the one with bonus attack speed gives a much higher value.
You could simply add an attack speed mod to the first one, and it will end up with near comparable "dps" (a single mod won't quite bring it to 5/sec)
However in reality you probably won't be hitting anything 5 times per second anyway, so while you'll still get a hastened animation regardless, it's not the be-all end-all stat.
Think you'll find upgrading the weapon prior does nothing, it's merely a roll of the dice.
In fact, improving the quality is an excellent way to "level" an old relic weapon for free as it re-crafts it to your level.
This needs to be upped. The video is wrong and he basically just showed people how to waste components lol
I almost never take anything serious that says attack speed is better than CHD or CHC in reference to games like this were you are essentially 1-3 hitting enemies. Like if he were recrafting it to get higher CHC(although idk the cap if there is one on CHC) i'd agree but there's so many mods for AS.
Yeah for real. Good catch. You can even see that the base damage value is the same for both versions, it's just that the second craft has 5 attacks per second and the first has 2.91. Which makes sense, since I don't think the DPS calculator will take any potential crits to display the DPS value
yeah, doesn't work with clothes either
Thanks for the post. I can't stand videos that spread misinformation. The game can be confusing enough to new players without videos like this one adding to the fire.
not sure how many people know about this, but in the crafting menu, for epic and legendary, if you keep clicking over the blueprint of any item in the category, you get to switch between high and low stats, not sure if this is a bug or something, but yea, for a sword, keep clicking on the blueprint until you get a higher stats, then hit craft, the stats will only fluctuate between 2 number, one which is high and the other which is low, the low will appear more often than the high. So this video really helps with that bug/technique to get the highest possible stats in the game for probably all the items craftable
I've reloaded the save point like 5 or 6 times and re-upgraded till I got the specs I want.
Yes, I believe the visual bug is fixed in the recent patch, but still in this video you can know about reloading the save point trick. You don't have to get random specs you don't like.
Guys, try recrafting the item more than once, it is all based on RNG. I was able to prove it with dying night. I tried your suggestion, did seem to get better stats, reloaded and just re-ran upgrade to legendary and got a different value almost every time. It's about RNG and your current level. As far as clicking on the item changing the values, I believe that is just showing you the possible ranges, try it yourself and see. craft 100 nekromatika's they will fall into 3 rough damage categories.
Guys,
So, I've just finished watching "Cyberpunk: Edgerunners", and I need to ask you for a favor:
Can you please use the first weapon you upgrade after watching this video to annihilate Adam Smasher?
nah, still gonna anihilate him with Malorian :V
@@matek1704
I did this in my last video. And I also worked on his body.
Still not satisfied until I see all UA-cam hunting him down for sport.
@@Mightnare69 killed him with guts for rebecca with davids jacket on
My first weapon that I will be upgrading and kill Adam smasher will be Guts on my first playthrough
Gonna kill him over and over with every weapon I enjoy using so idk. But the pink baton comes to mind.
Correct way to upgrade iconic weapons is to not make it legendary until 50 lvl. Because you just capping the weapon at current level.
Yes, but some weapons actually are 1 hit to kill, such as sniper rifles and high-end melee weapons.
If you're, let's say in the middle of the road to level 50. The DPS difference isn't that much to strive with crappy weapons till level 50.
I suggest waiting till level 50, if you're upgrading pistols or assault rifles.
Sniper rifles and katanas are OP. You can upgrade them mid game, and you're a beast.
@@Mightnare69 right now i in my second play through and didn’t face any issues by using epic versions of iconic and crafted epic regular guns.
In my first i fucked up Jonny’s malorian acquiring it to soon
@@Get5ome yeah I fucked up so many weapons 2nd playthrough I'll know
You can also have the skill that makes crafted weapons deal 10% more damage.
it doesnt matter if u have it before or after u craft the weapon, i tested it. Of u upgraded the weapon before having the perk, after u get the perk u will see that all ur crafted weapons automatically became stronger
thank you. there's no documentation in game or on the wiki on how upgrading and crafting actually affects the numbers of your weapons, so this video helps a ton
Looks like some incorrect info was provided here. The main difference between the swords are the secondary stats.
Legendary crafted sword has 2.91 attacks per second
Epic upgraded sword has 5 attacks per second
It's only natural for the DPS to be much higher on a sword that hits more often.
IMO the crafting system should have been split.
it should have been that the perks are for you crafting them, but I think there should have been a vendor who could improve your weapons as well so that you don't have to invest into the perks, but maybe have to invest increasing amounts of money on top of the crafting materials
I'm glad I found this video and thank you for showing and talking about how to do it the correct way,that makes a lot of sense because some games you have to upgrade it then craft a new one and upgrade that to get more HP or DBS...
This is a bug that didn't happen in older versions of the game. The damage shown in the crafting screen is supposed to always be the damage it goes to when upgrading rarities.
1.6 also include a bug that leaves an "empty" copy of the previous version of the weapon, only visible when interacting with your storage. I don't think it weighs anything, but it bothers me, so I am simply not upgrading any weapons on 1.6, which at least forced me to look outside of my usual legendary favorites for end-game weaponry.
Fuckin hell, I wish I knew this beforehand. I thought I was actually wasting resources when I upgraded before going to the next tier.
It's the same base damage, the number of attacks per second that's low. I'm not sure if it's just visual. But both weapons have identical stats otherwise
Not to make too harsh a statement, but the advice given in this video strike me as wrong. Recrafting weapons will reroll the secondary stats regardless of the level it happens at. This is not a bug, this is the game working as intended. Recrafting also creates the item at player level and resets the upgrade costs.
Conclusions as follows:
1) If you upgrade an item all the way to max level before recrafting, you get zero item levels for free and pay a massive premium for all the upgrades.
2) Item level going into the recrafting does not affect what the rerolled secondary stats will be.
3) Upgrading items will not reroll stats, it will just raise the item level, so upgrading after recrafting is fine.
4) Always save before recrafting an item to ensure you get the stats you want.
And a small detail, but if a little bit of attention is paid to the actual details on screen then it turns out that the "garbage" sword actually had the same damage as the "good" sword, it just didn't have a bonus to attack speed. This then begs the question, does the difference between 3 APS and 5 APS really matter, if everything dies in 1-2 hits anyway? That seems entirely too theoretical to justify the "slow" sword being flat out "garbage".
Additionally, one should take care not to be distracted purely by a high number, in this case the DPS figure. The game calculates DPS as full weapon damage times attacks per second. Crits, head multipliers, stealth multipliers, accuracy... Those factors are not part of the DPS shown, but they are relevant factors during actual gameplay. I think this video perhaps fails to put DPS into perspective, instead just gazing at how high it can go, regardless of the utility value.
btw the dmg it does/hit is still the same from both methods. I guess its just a weird bug because the only different thing is the attack speed. Maybe you could quit and reload the save to see if the attack speed is still the same? Or do a 1 to 1 frames test to see if its only the inventory bugged or not
That load time, jesus. Either it's been seriously optimized since or my pc isn't as obsolete as I thought.
Figured it out during first run. So, in a second one I've kept all unique weapons until lvl50 and made *3000 dps blade* from Black Unicorn😁
Would you say craft all weapons rare/epic rarity to legendary once you hit level 50? I'm level 40 but I keep upgrading then but they won't upgrade that much.
@@TheDarkKnight2064 looks like it... at least for me. But I don't know _for sure_ is it rule or occasional correlation🤔
first craft then upgrade ❌
first upgrade suddenly craft & finally upgrade again ✅
This is just a UI bug and was patched in version 1.6. It can still sometimes bug out but if you test the damage output it is still the same regardless of the value shown in the UI.
It actually isn't. The dps on the second is higher because it got attack speed as a random bonus on the craft. The first one had +100% crit damage instead.
@@MetalHev Attack speed is easily capped by leveling Blades and getting respective perks in blades and cold blood. The effective DPS of the one with +100% crit damage will be actually higher.
I'm new to the game and some of the crafting and upgrade systems are confusing. This is very helpful and I'll make sure to do it the right way. I think I already ruined a pistol but at least I know now. Thanks!
I'm glad this video was helpful to you, bro.
I am new too and am baffled why they implemented the system that way. Why can't you recraft something when you own the blueprint is beyond me.
@@whoami133 Yeah is bad , if you sell an iconic weapon you lost it forever .
@@Mightnare69 can you make a crafting video guide for 1.6. Like how many levels or skills i need to craft what i need? Im new to crafting
@@whoami133 you can recraft it, only iconic items require a previous rank iconic weapon to craft from rare to legendary etc... If you choose a regular item it just takes components to craft the next version. Also, he's not entirely correct about upgrading, yes it helps but RNG plays a bigger role, save and then craft your uncommon torare and see for yourself, you will get different numbers each time.
do not forgot about the player level scaling too, at max lv currently you can make the max out raw dmg on the weapon itself, other think to make sure is, weapon mods, points on certain skills and max the leveling ( ex: blades ) will increase the maximum amout of DPS not the actual raw weapon dmg.
Bruh i played this game for over a hundred hour and just figured this shit out...
RNG plays a bigger role than you realize. When crafting regular items I was able to produce several different values from just the original crafting, then when I upgraded them I got different values each time. Sometimes it would add an extra crit damage or some such. Remember crafting is all about RNG and you will get better results with a higher character level and a higher tech/crafting level. Craft and upgrade 100 nekromatika's and see for yourself.
i tested right now, RNG has been zeroed in v1.60 the everything gets randomized in lower levels will lead to the same result in legendary rarity. Dps also all the same at all rarities, if you're low level i would be still useful to craft a few and keep the one with more crit chance instead of ricochet for example
@@dontaccoll so is the vid incorrect?
@@dontaccoll thanks for the notice, I went back and checked and your right, all RNG has been removed at least on xbox series x. It is now replaced with crafting perks that allow for bonuses and a chance for increased damage or increased crit etc. So it has more to do with your crafting perks than games base RNG ratio. Craft 20 nekromatika's get 20 identical nekromatica's. Which is kinda funny because it makes world pickups better than what you can craft until you spend a ton of perks in crafting. I found a common lexington with better stats than my rare dying night at level 13 once I upgraded it one level since world pickups are 1 level below yours. Again apologies for posting outdated information, I assumed no updates had been applied since 1.6.
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Personally i didnt nnow crafting was a big part of the game and never needed it, just scavenged good guns. Then i tried to understand it when i got rebeccas gun. Ended up converting every iconic to legendary at level 50 and the values were a lot higher and didnt need much. Johnny’s clothes were the same armour value for me from epic to legendary, also capped at the same value for both rarities. I also noticed the values kept increasing if my crafting levek was higher, so i also waited until crafting level 20. Just kept crafting Dians (€2800+) or green Kenshins and sold them for money, while buying item components. Rare and epic were becoming very scarce.
ONE THING TO NOTE is that no matter if i waited for a higher crafting level, the max value would still be the same, but would say that the one at the higher level had higher stats when i compared, armour seemed to match and look the same. The only difference in actuality was the one that was crafted at a higher crafting level sold for a few more eurodollars.
PERSONALLY i would recommend getting to pacifica and getting an iconic rifle bp known as Moron Labe by doing a gig there. It can be crafted at epic and upgraded. But you wont miss much by making it early as you can craft another, unlike a lot of iconics
But now i have 2 quests left as well as the final mission, so i cant test out these amazing weapons i created much. The Bloody Maria shotgun is so powerful and i love it but damn am i sad i wont be able to use it much. Need a NG+
I'm honestly not sure your point is correct because the only difference between your first upgrade try out and the second one is the attack speed which is not impacted by the upgrade weapon anyway.
The raw damage value is the same for both. I believe it's a visual bug.
Your crafting skill level, shown as 9 when you upgraded to legendary, also has an effect on how much damage a weapon can do.
Spend any amount of time grinding crafting skill and you'll see as the skill goes up so does the damage.
So, to have the best outcome, be as high a level (50) and get your crafting as high as your build will allow before turning iconic weapons to legendary to get max Damage
Best advice here ^^
Just get character lvl 50 and crafting lvl 20 before upgrading iconic items
There’s so much old and bad info about cyberpunk out there… this video should be updated
One thing I noticed is that there seems to be a bug upgrading some weapons. I assume all weapons cap at level 50, however that is not the case. For example, Johnny's Malorian 3516 just disappeared from the crafting menu at around level 45. I should be able to upgrade it about 5 more times but it just isn't there. This is either a bug, or a strange cap on levels. It's been an issue since launch.
yup, exact same thing happened to me too. I'm level 44 now and it disappeared at like level 35 and its boof at this current place in the game.
@@julianoelsner5950 I ran into this problem with Overwatch. First time playing and IMHO crafting system in this game is nothing but a chore. Was starting with more stealthy headshot/silencer approach but was constantly falling short of OHK cause not upgraded weapon, switched to Comrade's Hammer and IDGAF any more.
My weapons dont disappear from the upgrade bar for some reason. I can keep upgrading till I can 1 hit Adam smasher
Alright let me see if I understand correctly. If I want to get the most damage out of a weapon I should not upgrade its rarity until the weapon is fully upgraded, and since the normal upgrade is tied to level, I should get to level 50 to fully upgrade. Is that it? Nice vid btw very concise
Yes, that's right.
Do what you've said with iconic weapons.
But, before you hit level 50, buy normal legendary weapons from shops around, they get the job done and they carry you to level 50 easy.
Go for melee weapons, they're OP.
@@Mightnare69 I am lvl 25 and never really bought weapons from anyone other then the one weapon in a quest.
@@Mightnare69 Lol no offence but no weapon in the game is OP. If you want OP you play as a stealth based netrunner and you never even draw a weapon cause why bother.
@@DKarkarov Well that's just nonsense. If you really think no weapons are OP in this game, you either haven't tried using them or you have a different definition of OP
Holly......
Thank you for this info, planned on starting another game since got tired of last one being stuck in a scene no matter what I did. Can only hope all these updates/patches they've done the last few months has that FN spot fixed.
Your personal lvl also has an effect, don't always just upgrade a weapon when you pick it up give yourself like 7-8 lvls and then upgrade a little, you'll get more of a scale in damage. Also if you KNOW you want a certain weapon maybe use a 2nd choise untill your max lvl then go for your weapon
true, apparently it works, even for craft only weapons it would be a good idea to craft the lowest rarity as soon as possible and upgrade at 50. I recatched the game just recently and i couldnt figure out why i hade some weapons 600dps, some others 1300.
my satori is now 1900 dps
Can u go a bit more into detail on the second half? Like what u mean max level
@@mizaelhernandez471 -- He means you should wait until you reach level 50 before maxing out iconic weapons and clothing. Your weapon and clothing will max out to whatever your current level is... so -- let's say you're currently level 20 and you want to upgrade an iconic weapon from Epic to Legendary. The weapon will max out at a much lower DPS than it woulD have been had you waited until you maxed out at level 50, because it takes your current level into account. You can however upgrade your weapon as you level up... but it will cost a ton in crafting components. However, if you enjoy grinding... have fun.
@@thebonesaw..4634 your explanation finally made me understand what I’ve been doing wrong… thank you for such a good description 🤣
I have never felt the need to upgrade or craft weapons in Cyberpunk, so luckily most of my iconic items are still in their base form for me to follow this advice. 🙏
The funny thing is, I'm kinda oblivious..and on my first play through, I didn't even realize you could craft or upgrade weapons and armor until I literally had JUST the final quest to complete. I rarely replay games, but I am replaying it now just to see how different the experience is when I am able to craft earlier in the game. As it is..with NONE of my weapons and armor modded, I STILL made it through the game feeling like I was in God mode.
@@brianegendorf2023 Yeah, the weapons I naturally got never seemed underpowered and I preferred sneaking over powering through levels. It was nice to craft/upgrade things later, but IMO definitely is not needed to finish the game (only make it slightly easier).
@@Emeraldnite-if7vo I gave up on stealth missions. I suck at them, and on top of that, I feel like you can make more money from looting dead guys than they actually pay you to do the mission. The Fixer can gripe all they want, but usually they only pay you 1-5000 eddies extra for your discretion, and I have looted 10,000-15,000 from dead enemies on those missions. Plus, once everyone is dead, I can take my time and explore and find everything there is to find at that location.
@@brianegendorf2023 I guess I just played it like how I would if I were really in that situation--and that is to avoid the pain of direct confrontations. 😅
I think it’s patched with 1.6
My Katana with 1100 DPS in epic (already leveled up) would be at 760 DPS After upgrading to legendary..
So I have johnnys pistol at around level 40, or that was around the last time it showed up in my upgrade menu… im currently 41 but I don’t see it anywhere. As far as ik the only weapon to stick to your level is guts. Also I recall upgrading Johnnys weapon the moment I got it.
Is this a bug or a feature somebody help!
It's not a bug.
Johnny's pistol is capped at level 40
same dmg dps is a bug
The video is incorrect, do not follow. It is all RNG. Notice that the first legendary Satori he crafted had 2.91 attacks per second, whereas the 2nd Satori had 5 attacks per second. This is because the 1st had a different substat which in this case could be 100% crit damage, and the 2nd was granted attack speed. Both crafted Satoris had the same base damage but yielded different DPS, due to the game calculating these values(crit dmg & atk speed) differently.
@1:08 = 1st Satori had 205 to 251 dmg, with 2.91 atkspeed
@3:36 = 2nd Satori had 205 to 251 dmg, with 5.00 atkspeed
Thus, it is all crafting RNG and the presented DPS on the weapon does not accurately display the true DPS of it.
Was trying to test this with jackies pistols by just upping one right to legendary and upgrading one then upping it to legendary but for some reason the game does not like it when i upgrade this pistol. Every time i finish upgrading it then craft the epic the game crashes. I have only ever had this thing crash like maybe 3 times in 300 hours and here its crashed 3 in a row.
Ok got it. They were of by 1 point. The one i upgraded through it all had 1 more damage.
Is this patch 1.6? Because I keep getting different stats but they're all consistent no matter how many times I craft.
To bad this doesn't work for Johnny's gun since you find it at legendary tier
Johnny's gun is already legendary whenever you get it, yup.
You just upgrade it to maximum.
What’s the best route to level Jonny’s gun if I want to use it end game? Say if I pick it up at level 25-30. Will I ruin anything by upgrading as I go? Do I need to wait until 50?
Very informative, thanks.
just a little confused as to why you didn't edit out the loading section
Editing... we don't need to stare at a load screen
I’m really glad I found this out! since I’m still new cyberpunk at least I was doing something right without realizing it. Thanks man
This is wrong btw
DO NOT DO THIS!! This is the INCORRECT WAY to upgrade! You are wasting your crafting mats, when you craft the higher tier it will auto match your level -1, upgrading the lower tier does NOTHING but waste mats. Just look at the rolled stats when you craft the higher tier that is what makes the difference in your DPS, if it's a crap roll then re-load the game, don't waste your mats!
You should take this video down, this is total miss information. I am sure you didn't know but people may not read comments to find the truth!
@@innocentiuslacrim2290 well I did test it just to be sure, I am playing right now on newest patch and this video is very wrong. Any upgrade to the next rarity tier automatically upgrades to your level minus one, regardless of how many previous upgrades you wasted. The only thing that matters is the stats you roll on the rarity upgrade craft, always save before upgrading legendaries.
OK, this doesn't need to be a 4 minute video.
TLDR: Before you upgrade the tier, upgrade the item. Then upgrade the tier, and you can keep upgrading. Please subscribe!
Right! Editing out the load screens would've been easy.
Actually, no to everything. 1.6 has made this method completely useless and a drain on components.
Oh wow..I'll be honest i bought the game on release and i never messed with upgrading or taking time to understand crafting . Thanks so much for the video ,, you are a rock star !
I've just finished my first playthrough and I gotta say that I was weirded out by how little dmg I do compared to some clips I saw. Turns out you can upgrade weapons that you find lol.
hey does this video still hold weight today? I think there's no going back from upgrading my satori in my current run if its true, thanks for the advice!
I'm wondering if this has been patched. I just tested with my Dying Night on 1.6 and got a negligible difference ~10 DPS @ level 15 in favor of the "raw" upgrade to rare. I noticed on your pause menu that this was recorded on 1.2. Just grabbed the Satori on this run so I'll be doing some further testing. Will try to remember to return with the results.
What were the results with the Satori?
Can anyone tell me why when I go to the upgrades tab there is no increase in the stats of the item? It just stays the same after upgrading...
Some items are restricted to your level.
You can't upgrade them until you level up.
My Dying Night pistol was just like that.
You can upgrade it every time you level up or just wait till level 50 to upgrade it to the max.
@@Mightnare69 Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, but my issue happens with any item, no matter the rarity. I can upgrade them, but the result is just the same, with no variation in the damage or any of the other stats. And I can keep upgrading with the same results 😔
Edit: just tested comparing damages, and are the same between a purple pistol not upgraded and the same weapon upgraded a few times. So it is not a visual bug or whatever. It's like the upgrading itself is doing nothing.
great vid, new player here, weapon system is little confusing , I wonder if at the start of the game do I update stuff that good sub stats or do I just keep selling them and whenever I find higher dps weapons. I would like to play a throwing knife/silenced handgun ( hitman like) set up but I dont know if I can start going out early on ( lvl 17, 23 street cred) and start finding specific type of weapons or I should just ignore it for now and keep selling low dps stuff or can I strat investing into epic tier at this low lvl? will I be able to updrgade up or is it waste of meterails to upgrdade them up?
anything would be helpfull :)
Wait, why do you bait people for views now with 1.2 old patch bug? I think this is fixed now.
It's not a bait.
The bug I believe was still there even in the 1.5 patch.
The video was uploaded before 1.6 edgerunners patch.
Still, after the bug is fixed, this is still an informative video about upgrading for people who don't know about crafting the next tier of a weapon.
Also, you get random specs when you upgrade your weapon.
If you reloaded the save point when your weapon is not upgraded and tried to upgrade it again, you may get different specs.
This trick allows you to try upgrading over and over and over till you get the best specs you like.
That katana for example had different specs on my first upgrade trial. I reloaded and upgraded it again, till it gave me 500% crit dmg along with bleeding.
If you actually pay attention when he displays both with the cross and tick... the damage doesn't change at all so you won't "kill them with one hit"... it's the attacks per second that is different, so it was bugged when he did the first upgrade
Am a pre-order day 1 player btw
Although the video is outdated, I have to disagree with you on this point.
The dmg is the same ofc, but the attacks per second changes.
And DPS means "Damage per second".
Since they have different attacks per second, the DPS will change according to this equation:
DPS = Attacks per second * dmg.
The second one has a better DPS value because it has higher attacks per second.
Generally speaking, it was a Ui/Ux display bug on early patches, which shows different values than the actual same value in both cases. You should get the same results in both cases, but how could anyone possibly know when it displays the wrong value?.
No no no that is wrong.
DO NOT upgrade the weapons before improving the rarity of a weapon.
Weapons do have a set max damage. Improving rarity to legendary keeps you 1-2 'upgrades away from that max limit. You'll just end up wasting component upgrading the weapon when improving the rarity would have done the same for a lot less components.
His red flags should went up when his improve rarity results did not match the projection, he experienced a bug.
Really ? i mean that makes sense .
Yes you’re exactly right. I just tested this myself with crash. Immediately upgraded it to legendary and then max level and it had 944 Dps. Reloaded save, upgraded epic version to max first, then crafted legendary version, upgraded it to max. *exact* same dps.
I really liked the part where I got to watch loading screens for 30 seconds in the middle of the video, because you chose to leave that in for some reason
Is it a bug when your weapon disappears from the upgrade section?
I've gained more levels since it happened and I still can't upgrade it. I'm only lvl 36 at the moment.
With how messy craft/upgrade is, I just use Hacks and/or hand implants which are basically scale automatically
Makes sense. Don’t go buying a Lamborghini after just passing your drivers test. Build your skill then apply new features/strengths 😅
tnx for not cutting the loading screen, editing is for noobs
just put whatever iconic weapon in ur apartment storage and the game will upgrade it to ur level automaticly the next time u load ur safefile
You sure this works? Just curious.
This is a Bug clearly since they changed the randomness Factor of upgrading iconic weapons they will have the same dps at Level 50 once legendary always. But there existed a Bug that makes the dps in the inventory Display incorrectly dont know if its fixed since 1.6 but it Was a big Deal when 1.5 dropped. (Made my life so mutch easyier since I needed that massive Crit damage of the Satori for my build) also dont upgrade to legendary until you are Max Level. Saves a Lot of components and get the crafting skill to Max and dont do it at Level 8 crafting skill
Why not doing it at level 8? I think when u unlocked the perks for stronger craftet weapons u are good? I mean i get that its expensive to level a legendary item from level 20 to 50 but shen u have the mats and the perks u should be good
wait I am confused, I thought that crafting meant that you created a new object from raw components. Here you are upgrading it to the next rarity level instead?
Did they update this? It doesn't make a difference if I upgrade first or craft up to legendary. I'm getting the same dps for both methods. If anything, it's better to just craft straight to legendary for me because I don't waste parts upgrading.
I also noticed the guns stats don't seem to update unless you close the menu. At one point the game was telling me upgrading to legendary would lower the dps. Once I did though the actual DPS was way higher.
@Mightnare now does that upgrade apply with rare to epic? or I have to finish upgrade in each category before crafting
Depends on the game version.
It was originally a bug in pre 1.6 patches and they fixed it after 1.6 patch.
It will still work but it will cost you a lot of resources.
The best way now is to craft the legendary right away, then upgrade.
Its pretty straightforward, I recommend upgrading the craft to epic at lvl 30 and repeat at lvl 50.
I could be wrong, but it looks like the mod Auto Scaling Weapons and Armor by Captain12 on Nexus can fix the early upgrade problem some people, myself included, have.
Does the weapons you find scale with your level? Lets say i dont pick up satori for 30 levels and come i back later to pick it up, is the base weapon stronger then? Or are the stats always the same if you find a weapon? If they scale it would be even stronger to pick a weapon after max level and then upgrade it.
The base weapon will be stronger the later you pick it up.
But some weapons are tied to your character level. So the base DPS value of them won't change, and you have to upgrade them to get max value.
I believe the only thing that may slightly increase damage values is your crafting level.
2:07 nice loading screen xD
Still not sure I understand. Why do you have to craft a weapon if you already have it?
...why is this game so convoluted??
a small part of me was wondering if I was wasting materials by upgrading before crafting to next tier. I'm glad I'm not wasting my time
In fact you were wasting materials if you were upgrading before crafting after patch 1.6 - they've changed the mechanics and now crafting (no matter if it is crafting the new weapon from scratches or re-crafting an iconic weapon to higher rarity) automatically sets the weapon level to one below player level.
I don't get the upgrading system at all. My legendary overture is at lvl 28 upgraded to max lvl possible and a new one at the vendor has 70 dps more.
Seems that upgraded weapons are generally weaker.
Even every now new crafted legendary weapon is way stronger than the exact same weapon upgraded over time to max
When I craft or upgrade something, for me, the dps has always matched before and after.
i could tell bro was on pc just from those slow ass loading times, im dead 💀
Very helpful and strange function, now have to remake old weapons
Still don't understand when you should "craft" and when you shouldn't. And also, how do you get specific crafting blueprints anyway??
So when u craft weapons is it better to craft the rare or legendary, or is that totally diff
So if I’m understanding this correctly, upgrade first, then craft the legendary, and then upgrade that one?
They should have added an npc that can craft the items for you so alternate builds are possible but of course make the player done ones better
*The Rock approval nod* very helpful.
So basically, upgrade it before recrafting it, but at a higher level to not overspend on resources.
Has the game been updated? It doesn't work like that for me.
I just tried with both Lizzie and Satori and I ended up with the exact same DPS whether I 1) gradually upgraded the weapon in its own tier (rare -> epic -> legendary) to the max before crafting it to the following tier and then upgrading it again, OR 2) by directly crafting it to the next tier and then upgrading it one last time as legendary. Satori ends up at 1,516 DPS in both cases, although I certainly use less parts when I craft directly.
FYI I play level 1.63, and I'm on level 50 / 50 Street Cred, 20, 20, 20 on Body, Reflex and Technical.
It's not allowing me to upgrade. Says I need some sort of tech or something. I can't upgrade any weapons
Now this was some useful info. Thanks.
Whats the best way to get a ton of upgrade components
Been playing this game for 2 years, had no idea I'd been scuffing my own weapons! Thanks so much for this.
I've heard that it's fixed now. Final damage will be the same.
Its not actually correct, upgrading the lower tier weapons first does nothing but waste components
This video is completely irrelevant, the dps number is something you should ignore but you should look at the actual damage of the weapon. If you look at the “trash” sword and then the same sword with 1.1k dps they both have 272 damage per hit
Is making it a legendary instead of epic just to get an extra mod slot? Or is there more ?
Thanks for this. Also wow can’t believe how long your load time is
Thank you very much friend I am about to play it again for the second time and I did not know this
Brother, you gotta turn off that radio. lol
Does it work this way for all weapons or only the iconic?
Is this in 1.6? if so they really need to change it because it's either a bug or a very bad design of the crafting system
I had NO idea about this... 10/10, good tip mate
Did you notice the higher damage legendary had 100% less critical damage than the first one?
Aye, levelling it up before hand did nothing. It's random, sometimes when you make it legendary it'll have more attack speed (and thus higher dps on paper) and other times higher crit damage etc.
Never upgraded my weapons, gonna give it a try.