I had the utter privilege to spend some brief time with these guys after several concerts, back in the '70s. They were all very friendly, Phil particularly so. On one occasion I got their autographs on my camera case (the only thing I had to hand) and Phil would only sign it if if I, in turn, signed the skin of his snare drum. Imagine how that made a teen fan feel. I still have that camera case with the autographs. On another occasion, we were allowed into their dressing room after a gig, and they (apart from Peter, who sat quietly in the corner) were all very friendly and chatty. Tony, in fact, wrote out some on-the-fly sheet music for the opening chords of "Watcher Of The Skies" for my mate. They are all terrific musicians, and really great guys.
Wow, you're lucky! I'd love to have that opportunity. It amazes me that Tony just quickly wrote out the sheet music like that! I've always felt that all of them were genuinely friendly people.
Banksian Central someone (probably bruford) was amazed by the fact they are like people that never had / enjoyed success. like average people, friendly, quiet and simple. he was friend with phil but he realized this during his tour in 1976.
Classy guys all of them... Great musos too... Phil Collins's humour was just hilarious... Read somewhere a South African Business man returning from UK was astounded to see, as the plane came in to land at Cape Town airport that it was filled with crowds & he turned to the passenger next to him saying : "Wonder who the crowd are here to greet?" to which the passenger said blandly : "me"... Low &, behold it was Mike Rutherford (not sure where the "Mechanics" were)... "You!?" replied the Business man - "Who the hell are YOU???" 😄😄😄
I highly recommend Phil’s book ‘Not Dead Yet’. It features in-depth accounts of some of the things talked about here as well as many other aspects of Phil’s life both in Genesis and as a solo artist. It’s also littered with Phil’s trademark humour.
These interviews make you realize they're human as well... I don't know why but I never thought of Phil being so nervous that his hand shaked when holding a paper. It's really cool that Mike mentions that he miss hanging out with the guys, I mean, after so many years they must have developed such a close relationship that it must be hard to be apart for so long. It happens to me with a couple of childhood friends (who happen to be bandmates of mine as well), I miss them when I don't see them for a month or so, we used to hang out a lot more before...
There’s an interview out there where he’s laughing his head off the whole time. It’s really cool. I think he’s just a serious person most of the time. Especially when talking about his life’s work. He’s also not afraid to tell it like it is, which I respect.
People ask him about the music, he’s honest about his thoughts on the music; people ask him about the people, he’s honest about his thoughts on the people. It’s clear he has affection for everyone he’s worked with and maintains a separation between criticism of music and criticism of character. Tbh I don’t understand where people get “aloof” from. Any interview I’ve seen he makes jokes every chance he gets and is just as quick to criticize himself as anyone else.
In one interview with all 3 of them present, Phil comments that maybe Tony and he are moving in opposite direction with age, regarding taking themselves too seriously and just joking around. Which is quite nice that Phil realises that he's become quite an uptight, self important person, but Tony has relaxed into knowing that he doesn't have to fight for recognition anymore. Phil of course had the post 80's backlash against him and his health problems, so it's forgivable. Tony was just young, ambitious and was very passionate about how he thought the music should be. Mike seems to have replaced Phil as the diplomat / glue that kept them together But generally three great guys I'd love to have a beer with.
***** Thanks! I will. I have plenty of new videos planned to upload. I actually have a fair amount of new videos in the vault waiting to be brought out.
The most underrated band of the 20th century. Every album with Pete is a masterpiece. By the 80's their skill allowed them to swop prog for pop and they made millions of dollars. Their old now and probably lack the energy but it would be something to hear them put together some prog songs like Selling England's. Modern technology would allow them to just send bits to each other to build on. The lineup - Mike,Phill,Steve,Pete,Tony and Ant. Whole generations have no idea of their amazing skills
On the subject of Phil's voice when touring - I would have thought that the Genesis tours would have been easier than his solo tours because of some of the expanded instrumental passages in the Genesis repertoire as opposed to the succession of 4-minute songs on his solo tours. Obviously, those (short Genesis songs) lessened as the material became more 'concise' (read 'poppy'), but there was still 'Domino' and a few others. With the earlier repertoire, he was probably only singing about 50% of the night....
That's just the grumpy brigade that moan about everything. Very lucky to have all found eachother to work with... I can only dream of finding like minded musician/songwriters.
Thank you, Hisham! I have been struggling to clearly hear & understand what Mr. Banks is saying!! I love him & The Band so I hate when he says something super fast, then the guys laugh & I'm thinking; What In The World Did He Say??? Just glad I'm not the only one who is struggling to understand his soft voice, accent & "Speedy Gonzales" syntax. 🤔 ???
Deborah D. Sampson why don’t you turn the speed down to 0:75? See the 3 dots in top right hand corner of the video, press on them and playback speed will appear, press 0:75 and see if that helps
I've wanted to hear interviews with just these guys because I think their individual contributions to Genesis are shamefully undermined. Aswell Mike Rutherford in my honest opinion is just as talented a songwriter as Phil or Peter.
as a diehard genesis fan i thought, right peters gone, but heres phil. i know you wont feel that but we as fans felt it. We thought here is the singer right here.
I think thats Phils working class roots that had him reading reviews. At public school I would think that part of the education is that elitist notion that what the plebians say about you doesn't matter that much. Obviously not completely but its odd that Phil takes such criticism so seriously. As he's said, its hardly his fault his music got played unendingly and that he was such a phenomenal musician that he could churn out hits. The one reason at one time I looked down on him a bit was that early genesis was certainly in large part known for their lyrics, which were just out and out almost as crazy as jon andersons. But then later Phil kind of dismisses not only the idea of lyrics in general, but their earlier lyrics in particular. So in a sense he was kind of insulting all the people who really enjoyed the music in part for that reason. I think writing a song to bring out the 'myth of salamacis' is as worthwhile as one to discuss a womans 'invisible touch'. They have two very different motivations behind them, but certainly one is more 'original' than the other. But I still dont' really get why guys who claim to get on fine can't sit down together and play together. Hell, have Phil sing "I know what I like" and have Pete play the drums, they aren't that tough on that one. Even doing it as a covid thing from different places would be cool, because it just seems odd that they always claim they get along, but can't do ONE thing together.
Well, I understand them both fine, if you’re really struggling why not slow the video down by pressing on the 3 dots top right corner of the video screen and scroll to playback speed 0:75
I do have a spot of trouble understanding what these two in particular are saying sometimes, perhaps a result of their being upper-crusty enough to tend toward de-emphasizing their words as they approach the end of a sentence, like denizens of an English country estate in an episode of Jeeves & Wooster. It comes across as an inherent modesty almost; that's my guess, anyway. In any case, it's totally adorable, and as an American with an unfamiliar ear, 100% my issue, rather than theirs. 🇬🇧
Marti Masvidal Just slow down the video speed. Go to the upper-right hand corner, hit the 3 dots, there is a speed option, you can slow the tape down, or even make it go faster.
Its really rare to find these guys side by side.
Good job
I had the utter privilege to spend some brief time with these guys after several concerts, back in the '70s. They were all very friendly, Phil particularly so. On one occasion I got their autographs on my camera case (the only thing I had to hand) and Phil would only sign it if if I, in turn, signed the skin of his snare drum. Imagine how that made a teen fan feel. I still have that camera case with the autographs.
On another occasion, we were allowed into their dressing room after a gig, and they (apart from Peter, who sat quietly in the corner) were all very friendly and chatty. Tony, in fact, wrote out some on-the-fly sheet music for the opening chords of "Watcher Of The Skies" for my mate. They are all terrific musicians, and really great guys.
Wow, you're lucky! I'd love to have that opportunity. It amazes me that Tony just quickly wrote out the sheet music like that! I've always felt that all of them were genuinely friendly people.
Banksian Central someone (probably bruford) was amazed by the fact they are like people that never had / enjoyed success. like average people, friendly, quiet and simple. he was friend with phil but he realized this during his tour in 1976.
Hold up, I could have sworn Tony never knew how to read music
The Ban Man classically trained, he writes scores for films and everything. He can read music and write it out.
nitramyar I met Phil once when in the ‘90s when I was a kid. He was standing outside FAO in NYC with Lily.
Classy guys all of them... Great musos too... Phil Collins's humour was just hilarious...
Read somewhere a South African Business man returning from UK was astounded to see, as the plane came in to land at Cape Town airport that it was filled with crowds & he turned to the passenger next to him saying : "Wonder who the crowd are here to greet?" to which the passenger said blandly : "me"... Low &, behold it was Mike Rutherford (not sure where the "Mechanics" were)... "You!?" replied the Business man - "Who the hell are YOU???" 😄😄😄
They are so well spoken.
Smarter (and saner) than your average rock stars for sure! I could listen to these interviews all day.
Tony is surprisingly funny! Kind memories shared affectionately of their friend's career growth. Great sharing. Thank you!!
He isn`t surprisingly funny, he is like this for most of the time. People just overblow his so-called seriousness.
I highly recommend Phil’s book ‘Not Dead Yet’. It features in-depth accounts of some of the things talked about here as well as many other aspects of Phil’s life both in Genesis and as a solo artist. It’s also littered with Phil’s trademark humour.
These interviews make you realize they're human as well... I don't know why but I never thought of Phil being so nervous that his hand shaked when holding a paper. It's really cool that Mike mentions that he miss hanging out with the guys, I mean, after so many years they must have developed such a close relationship that it must be hard to be apart for so long. It happens to me with a couple of childhood friends (who happen to be bandmates of mine as well), I miss them when I don't see them for a month or so, we used to hang out a lot more before...
thanks for this!! Phil with his notes cracks me up and you can tell they are good friends and got along great with each other.
Amamos o Phil sim, mas amamos muito a vocês também. Vocês fazem parte de toda vida do Phil Collins.
thank you both very much
- i like to see my heros lively , adaptive and healthy , which i just did
I've seen interviews where Tony comes off as cold, aloof, and hypercritical, but here he seems like a really nice guy.
There’s an interview out there where he’s laughing his head off the whole time. It’s really cool. I think he’s just a serious person most of the time. Especially when talking about his life’s work. He’s also not afraid to tell it like it is, which I respect.
@@brianplord nailed it
People ask him about the music, he’s honest about his thoughts on the music; people ask him about the people, he’s honest about his thoughts on the people. It’s clear he has affection for everyone he’s worked with and maintains a separation between criticism of music and criticism of character.
Tbh I don’t understand where people get “aloof” from. Any interview I’ve seen he makes jokes every chance he gets and is just as quick to criticize himself as anyone else.
In one interview with all 3 of them present, Phil comments that maybe Tony and he are moving in opposite direction with age, regarding taking themselves too seriously and just joking around. Which is quite nice that Phil realises that he's become quite an uptight, self important person, but Tony has relaxed into knowing that he doesn't have to fight for recognition anymore.
Phil of course had the post 80's backlash against him and his health problems, so it's forgivable. Tony was just young, ambitious and was very passionate about how he thought the music should be.
Mike seems to have replaced Phil as the diplomat / glue that kept them together
But generally three great guys I'd love to have a beer with.
I love these guys so much.
Such a nice and wonderful men...
Your simply the best very handsome the world would not be the same without you
Legends
keep up the good work banksian central.
***** Thanks! I will. I have plenty of new videos planned to upload. I actually have a fair amount of new videos in the vault waiting to be brought out.
you just fired my expectations.i love tony banks and genesis,ton of thanks banksian central.
The most underrated band of the 20th century.
Every album with Pete is a masterpiece.
By the 80's their skill allowed them to swop prog for pop and they made millions of dollars.
Their old now and probably lack the energy but it would be something to hear them put together some prog songs like Selling England's.
Modern technology would allow them to just send bits to each other to build on.
The lineup - Mike,Phill,Steve,Pete,Tony and Ant.
Whole generations have no idea of their amazing skills
John Smith my favourite ever band, up to invisible touch anyway, love both eras, but SEBTP and Lamb have a special place in my heart
They're great, one of my favorite bands, but underrated? Perhaps pre-78.
You mean every album with Pete or Steve Hackett are great.....
9:05 finally it is properly pronounced. Sounds so much better. ;-)
Did Steve Hackett not exist??
Thank you for this!!! :-)
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it!!
Girls liked early Genesis, at least the ones not brain dead did. I do remember boys being surprised I had their records so I get it.
Great Post!!!
On the subject of Phil's voice when touring - I would have thought that the Genesis tours would have been easier than his solo tours because of some of the expanded instrumental passages in the Genesis repertoire as opposed to the succession of 4-minute songs on his solo tours. Obviously, those (short Genesis songs) lessened as the material became more 'concise' (read 'poppy'), but there was still 'Domino' and a few others. With the earlier repertoire, he was probably only singing about 50% of the night....
I always felt Mike Rutherford was a bit closer to Phil than Tony. They seem to have a great chemistry.
Every question for Mike and Tony: "Tell us about Phil!"
Very interesting but I'd imagine it's getting tiring after this many decades, lolol
Ok this is from a documentary about Phil, nvm
Given the british tendency I'd suggest they prefer talking about somebody else.
Will this finally put to bed the Phil ruined genesis brigade??? I find it a ridiculous argument
That's just the grumpy brigade that moan about everything.
Very lucky to have all found eachother to work with... I can only dream of finding like minded musician/songwriters.
You have fabulous musicality
Is there a software that slows down Tony's words?
Find an online UA-cam/mp3 converter, upload the mp3 to a DAW then time stretch it. Alternatively, do a line of coke.
It’s English
Rodzilla never heard of that language is that a cross between turkey and Japan? Lol
Thank you, Hisham!
I have been struggling to clearly hear & understand what Mr. Banks is saying!!
I love him & The Band so I hate when he says something super fast, then the guys laugh & I'm thinking; What In The World Did He Say???
Just glad I'm not the only one who is struggling to understand his soft voice, accent & "Speedy Gonzales" syntax. 🤔 ???
Deborah D. Sampson why don’t you turn the speed down to 0:75? See the 3 dots in top right hand corner of the video, press on them and playback speed will appear, press 0:75 and see if that helps
Why don't they ever mention Steve Hackett ?
well Tony is the main reason for genesis .synths writer
Your a star in my eyes
8:19 interview with mr carrion crow
Banks talks so fast!
hypnotizerLuna like his keyboard playing on the lamb lol
Yep Tony talks as fast as Peter's lyrics on 'Battle Of Epping Forest' lol
And Rutherford mumbles.
I've wanted to hear interviews with just these guys because I think their individual contributions to Genesis are shamefully undermined. Aswell Mike Rutherford in my honest opinion is just as talented a songwriter as Phil or Peter.
very honest.
as a diehard genesis fan i thought, right peters gone, but heres phil. i know you wont feel that but we as fans felt it. We thought here is the singer right here.
plus he was family
I think thats Phils working class roots that had him reading reviews. At public school I would think that part of the education is that elitist notion that what the plebians say about you doesn't matter that much. Obviously not completely but its odd that Phil takes such criticism so seriously. As he's said, its hardly his fault his music got played unendingly and that he was such a phenomenal musician that he could churn out hits.
The one reason at one time I looked down on him a bit was that early genesis was certainly in large part known for their lyrics, which were just out and out almost as crazy as jon andersons. But then later Phil kind of dismisses not only the idea of lyrics in general, but their earlier lyrics in particular. So in a sense he was kind of insulting all the people who really enjoyed the music in part for that reason. I think writing a song to bring out the 'myth of salamacis' is as worthwhile as one to discuss a womans 'invisible touch'. They have two very different motivations behind them, but certainly one is more 'original' than the other.
But I still dont' really get why guys who claim to get on fine can't sit down together and play together. Hell, have Phil sing "I know what I like" and have Pete play the drums, they aren't that tough on that one. Even doing it as a covid thing from different places would be cool, because it just seems odd that they always claim they get along, but can't do ONE thing together.
am I the only one who cant understand what they are saying? specially mike.
Is English a second language to you? They are talking pretty much as coherently as the English language gets.
What are you talking about? Tony talks too fast and Mike mumbles almost every single word.
Well, I understand them both fine, if you’re really struggling why not slow the video down by pressing on the 3 dots top right corner of the video screen and scroll to playback speed 0:75
I do have a spot of trouble understanding what these two in particular are saying sometimes, perhaps a result of their being upper-crusty enough to tend toward de-emphasizing their words as they approach the end of a sentence, like denizens of an English country estate in an episode of Jeeves & Wooster. It comes across as an inherent modesty almost; that's my guess, anyway. In any case, it's totally adorable, and as an American with an unfamiliar ear, 100% my issue, rather than theirs. 🇬🇧
Tony! Can you speak a litle bit slower please??
Marti Masvidal Just slow down the video speed. Go to the upper-right hand corner, hit the 3 dots, there is a speed option, you can slow the tape down, or even make it go faster.