The 2024 TLX Type-S is the Quickest Acura that ISN’T an NSX
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Today we're driving the 2024 Acura TLX Type-S! Under the hood is a turbocharged 3.0L V6 making 355 HP and 354 lb-ft of torque sent to all four wheels via SH-AWD. This system is able to send up to 70% of the torque to the rear wheels and up to 100% of that torque to either the left or right wheel. Real torque vectoring! It's a great gift Acura's bestowed upon the Type-S and today we're going to enjoy it as much as possible.
Type-S As Tested: $66,477 CAD ($58,195 USD)
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Launch + Integra Type-S
3:07 2024 Exterior Changes
4:17 Engine + Transmission
7:10 Fuel Economy
7:54 Drive Modes + Suspension + Steering
9:54 SH-AWD
11:55 2024 Interior Changes
14:53 Pricing
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The RLX Sport Hybrid quite close surprisingly. Such a sleeper too.
Exactly. I'm waiting to see a video of them going Head To Head 🤞🏼
I want one of those. Have to save up more for that!
RLX has a faster 0-60
the internet will tell you these are junk and overpriced sure they arnt the fastest thing under 60k but they are very well build and provide solid driving dynamics
Don’t forget to mention that when you physically sit in one you don’t want to get out, interior is way more comfortable and spacious than its competitors
@@AliAli-gk7rf Not spacious, at all for its size, but it is comfortable.
Half the people on the internet drive cars that are half of this in value/quality and performance 😂
@@SuperdimensionalIf it's not a BMW or Merc people shit on anything Acura/ Honda that's sporty. It's not supposed to be 500+
I guess the transfer case failures, puddle light, dash creaks, EVAP, radio problems can all be ignored then?
I owned a 2008 TL Type S in the Kinetic Blue Pearl. I got it to 222XXX miles. It was such a fun car to drive. Something about Acuras during that time to me were magical. The TSX, first gen RDX and of course the TL were a lot of fun. The 2013-2018 Acura years were to me the worst, but I'm glad they're back on track making Type S and models that bring excitement.
I have the 2023 Acura TLX Type S. And I love my red analog gauge cluster. I keep the interior ambient lights red so everything matches. I could had waited a few more months and got the 2024. But personally I didn't see much of a difference.
Same in black. I really like the classic guages.
2022 here. I love my gauges. Reminds me of cars from the 90s! Aka the best decade lol
Surround camera button on the end of the wiper stalk. 😉 Just got one here in Texas in this exact spec with the US wheel/tire. Love this car so much. All your praise and criticisms are spot on. Always some compromise with modern cool cars. 🤷🏻♂️ Great video nonetheless.
Awesome, but last generation RLX very underrated was 377hp. Even though I love my 2023 type S, would be awesome at 390hp
@scottishd0g87K tuner adds another 55 hp stage 1 tune
@scottishd0g87Tunes don’t do much because the engine is bottlenecked with small port heads and small turbo. 10 speed is also a weak transmission. Many have blown them.
You can add a JB4 and get a tad more. Acura locked ECU down so these can’t be tuned. They know it won’t last if modded. They don’t want the engine to rev past 6k.
I talked to developers about drivetrain. They designed this to have power from low rpm all the way to 6k. Instant gratification. Secret is small head ports and small turbo that spools faster.
i wish they capitalize on the hybrid tech.. made it 100 per wheel and put it on the type s
@@ryanb8736the 10-speed in the TLX type S and also the MDX Type-S internals are heat treated for these particular models. Please share where you received your information on the 10-speed being weak. Thanks
this guy comments the same thing on every tlx video, i think he has a vendetta against them lmao. No sources ever either @@esp9sram
You look at this car and just think, what a sweet ride.
This car really makes me miss my old ‘08 TL Type S 😔. But picked the IS500 over this. Idc if the interior is from 2015 I just couldn’t say no to a high revving N.A V8.
This is what many that have had a 3rd Gen TL-S say. I've had mine 9 years and I'll never get rid of her.
@@helpingudrive4031 Yes but sadly the only reason I got rid of her was because it was totaled and before that, the transmission was starting to leak on me. Had it for 11 years/115k miles till the very end.
Still like your IS500? I agree about the 2015 cabin. But that V8!! I was looking at both.
Also curious if you still have it
@@etjulien Even after the honeymoon phase is over, I still love listening to her start up from a cold start and look for any excuse to rev it up especially in Sport S+
Just waiting for them to drop the 3.5l twin turbo from the NSX in the TLX Type RS 😏. 500hp. Just do it Acura! Stop hesitating. UNLEASH THE BEAST
They will never do it. Plus they need the dual clutch transmission too. That won’t work in this.
@@ryanb8736 I know they'll never do it. Just hoping they'll do it.
I'd trade in the 2024 I got 6 weeks ago if they released a type R today.
If you buy this car, get the wheel and tire warranty. Maintaining the wheels on this thing, especially if you live in the U.S. (potholes), is a nightmare.
Is that copper wheels, they don't offer the tire performance package anymore?
@@carljohnson7 sorry I meant the wheel and tire warranty.
I got it and I avoid potholes great driver etc but just had a tire plugged for a nail
@@TheRage191 my wheels are in terrible shape. Only downside to the car + fuel economy.
@cultofmodernism8477 fuel economy is terrible its probably 15 mpg
Excellent camera work my friend. Beautiful car.
I have a 2021 TLX A spec with my lease ending in June....thinking about a Type S...this review was excellent and convinced me that its worth the money to upgrade. Thanks again
I just came from a 21 Aspec to a Type S. Total different drive for sure if you can do it. If you enjoyed the spec you definitely won’t regret
@@Sologetthemoney Thanks I appreciate the insight...only decision is color. Preciate it
Great video/review.
This car is gorgeous
I love my type s and it gets ALOT of compliments
Great review! I love that colour combo in that Type-S. If you ever come down here in Ontario, please take the time to review my ride. I have a 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD 6 speed manual. Of course I added a a few modifications tastefully lol.
2nd lol! Great review! Awesome sounding car! with some mods and an tune i bet it will be a beast!
Exactly what I was thinking
It has its limits though. Ecu is locked for a reason. Plus transmission is a weak link in this car.
Small heads with small turbo makes instant boost at low rpm, but falls flat after 6k. So Acura tuned this car perfectly from low 1600 rpm to 6k. That makes a perfect daily car.
To gain another 100hp, you need heads, manifold, and turbo. Over 15k. Then you are still stuck with a weak transmission.
It’s too bad Acura didn’t go with new ZF transmission.
So I have an Accord 2.0 10AT…when launching it’s always been suggested to do it out of 2nd gear because that 1st gear is short. So I guess they did it like that on purpose for the Acura. Makes sense.
Nice review! Would love to see one on the IS500 and hear your opinion. Thanks for posting!
I was scheduled to drive one but something unfortunate happened to the press car haha and it was already on the way out of the fleet. Maybe I can find a privately owned example
@blu_is500 I might be able lend mine to him for a review since it looks like he's close to where I am. But I need to see what my schedule is like.
try hitting the gas first on takeoff, and then downshifting, but almost right after you hit the gas if that makes sense..
Of course a lot of other cars are quicker.
Bmw, Audi, Cadillac.
But those cars are also in the shop getting chhhit fixed more.
Acuras are solid as a rock.
Yes, I agree. I have a 2021. I love my car. No issue. It's a driver car.
2016-2020 Acura and Honda V6 are all recalled for bad engines.
Amen to that. I have the original Type S: a 2001 CL Type S. It was built in June 2000, so it will soon turn 24! The engine still sounds awesome, and drives so smoothly. I am hoping I can afford a 2025 TLX Type S next year, but I will also keep my original. :-)
@@ryanb8736not true
@@ryanb8736it’s 6 speed j series transmission
Maybe it's heavy but that looks so comfortable and deluxe ❤
Love my type-s; stage one make 370hp and 430+tq and wakes up the car and gets the 0-60 to 4.3. Boltons will make that even quicker. Only downside is the brakes if you track it but some better rotors, pads and fluid do wonders! Love the video!
Can't forget the Acura cl type s 6speed 2002- 03
how did you get the performance y spoke rims in grey? only option i see are copper colored?
Canada! We have these wheels as default. Copper/bronze is extra $$ but yes, the same Y-spoke.
I love digital gauges so for me that is a great feature.
Totally agree about the analogue gauges. The Digital ones feel bleh
Did u film this in langley
I’m more of an Audi guy.. I feel as if they make the perfect sedans for car enthusiasts. I’m a little biased tho, and I know it😂
I agree. I’m also a biased Audi owner 😂😂😂,
RS3 owner here.
I just purchased a 2024 Audi S5 Coupe to replace my 21 Acura TLX Type S. I have never owned An Audi, but I have to say this car is a treat. Faster and handles better. And, the exhaust sounds better.
I had the 23 TLX Type S. When i found out it was direct injection only, i swapped it for a 22 Lexus IS350 F Sport.
How do you feel about your trade so far?
I love the this car❤ but unfortunately it would b 6K down and $750 a month for 72mos😢 love my DB7 LS
Yeah….i checked this car out…I couldn’t get past the price and the small backseat. But ultimately,maybe I could’ve lived with the backseat as I only have one young child. But where I am(NY)…I would’ve been $63k OTD….it was nice. But not $63k nice IMO
@@Derek-pq3zbI paid 54 for mine in Wisconsin, with bodykit.
They did that in the 2002 TL Type-S where the computer shift from 1st-2nd and 2nd-1st. You couldn’t do it yourself.
Hit the drive button in sports plus. That will let you go into first
Nope. The ecu denies you full manual control.
I love everything about the TLX Type S except for the terrible fuel economy. I drive close to 20k miles per year and that would add up to a lot of gasoline expense over the year. Could I afford it? Yes. But I don’t want to.
You'll burn a lot when you first get it, but drive in normal and comfort mode and my average is 23.9
Get a hybrid if you care about mpg. Performance sedans are not for you.
@@ryanb8736 I definitely don't want a weak powered hybrid. I'm not trying to get 40 mpg but 19/25 is pretty lame, especially considering that the much more powerful, albeit even more expensive, M340i easily gets over 30 mpg on the highway.
the m340i makes MORE power and gets better mpg. the j30 turbo is just not efficient@@ryanb8736
@@a32tlyou can’t have power and fuel economy especially with horse power it produces, you will have to sacrifice one.
At one point in time youd have to buy a BMW m5 to get that kinda power
Oh yeah? I had a 2008 TL-S. 😊
That's the first i'm hearing that you cannot shift it into M1. If it starts in M2 at a stop, does it drop to M1 at launch? But this car has me wanting to rush down to the Acura dealership. I am a bit older so prefer something a bit more "mature" than the Integra Type-S.
BTW, love your commentary. You have good, non-cliche commentary and you're not constantly rattling off the long list of competitors. (watched your Integra Type-S video, too). Subbed to your channel!
You can shift into M1, from a stop.
@@sports_car_enthusiast but he was stopped when he was trying and that’s the only time you’d shift into M1 anyway, which he says you cannot do.
@@senorgato70you can do it. The car should be in sport or sport+ (forget which one I did it in, haven’t tested all the modes to see if it’s limited to certain modes) and the transmission needs to be in sport manual. Then when you are at a stop it will shift to m1. The car will shift out of m1 super fast though on its own, without you doing it via the paddles and while it felt disappointing at first, after a few stops I realized m1 gear is super short and m2 feels like a normal first gear anyway, so yea while Acura has some safeguards built into this car like m1 gear and auto up shift at redline even in manual mode at all gears, it’s not that big a deal, this is not a 1/4 mile car, this is a spirited sedan that shines in the twisties and on the highway. The car is very fun to drive with great creature comforts and audio.
100 percent can switch to m1 must be at complete stop, computer won’t let u to switch to a lower gear if it’s not supposed to be there comfortably.
That being said 1st gear is extremely short, if ur getting max torque at 1500 rpm’s and there’s 10 gears, do the math…not much room in the first two gears
Type s should have a 6mt option 😢
I’ve only heard of cylinder deactivation in CA- is that also true for US?
Does it feel fast or does the weight make this car feel sluggish?
Feels quick and torquey under 80 mph.
@RoadsUntraveled I would describe the feel as very smooth, confident, and effortless.
I got a 2023 😅 thinking about trading in for a 24 😂
You’re a finance managers wet dream
I have my rlx sh '18, and test drove type s.... 2018-2020 RLX SH ANY DAY ANY TIME over type S... It is not worth paying 60k for 4.6sec to 60moh in crammed can of compact sedan size vehicle
is ACURA even making these yet?!?! lol seen all these reviews and yet to see any at the STEALERSHIPS.... none the less they should have just revamped and made the RLX sport hybrid powertrain on this to be BONKERS OFF THE WALL TYPE of CAR!
The G70 is really the car this compares against price wise in the segment. Objectively, the G70 wins in pretty much every category.
It is a look that will probably grow on you. But this new style is so weird at first glance. Alot of cross branding copy. Like the hellcat spoiler, Toyota slit and edge and curve everywhere. Only thing i like is the interior.
But engine sounds nice and sweet
Perfect car if you wanna spend big but have no interest in bragging to others. This is a car for "me" only
There’s a problem with the title to this video:
TLX-S = 11.9 pounds per horsepower
ITS = 10 pounds per horsepower
The ITS will easily pull ahead of a TLX-S on a roll. You can’t argue with math and basic physics.
You can't until you have to shift gears yourself
@@mikeb7258The ITS has less power and the manual defeats you. The TLX torque is linear from 1500 rpms up to redline. I've run an ITS and he couldn't do anything. I was leaving him on everything.
@@Mike-lt6sj The TLX-S and the ITS have the same 1/4mile trap speed of 105 mph. If the TLX -S was truly faster on a roll, then it would have a higher trap than the ITS. The fact that the traps are the same proves that the ITS closes the gap on a roll and will eventually pass the TLX-S with enough runway.
@@mikeb7258 That makes sense to me, but then I wonder why that ITS seemed slower to me? I spent a good 10 minutes screwing around with that guy through twisties, dead stops, and open road.
Anyway, I like that car too.
@@Mike-lt6sj Maybe he was a novice with a manual. The TLX-S is a great car. I only got rid of mine because it got damaged.
Integra type s would smoke it in a roll race.
Depends how quickly you can shift ;)
No. I was chasing an Integra type s in mine. I was reeling him in on everything, and I was surprised that was the case with that car being so light.
@@Mike-lt6sjnice what year your type s ??
@@Lawtypes 23
Too bad it weighs as much as the Titanic.
The type s has about 80hp/cylinder or 157hp/L, and this car is about 100hp/L. So inefficient. And my Acura drives the trans like that too. U can’t downshift into first gear
this or is350 f sport
I haven't driven an IS350, only IS300 but I'd take this any day.
Nice car just too heavy for its competition
Looks like a bmw steering wheel
They have the wrong engine in that car. Should be a 3.5 and HP needs to be closer to 400hp to really be competitive.
My gla 45 amg is 4 doors and faster than this by more than a little bit. 4.1 60 time. Quarter mile on 12.4. Got it for 40k used and I love it.
Your GLA also weighs like 1000lbs less and is more powerful. What did you expect?
@drivescene6747 600lbs lighter. 20 more hp. I'm simply saying for the money you can do better if we are talking about a 4 door vehicle as a starting point. Would you agree or do you disagree with that statement?
@@matthowell8985 not really, my favorite car in this class, the w205 C43 was more expensive with similar options. The S4 is only better in a straight line and the M340i is also more expensive.
@drivescene6747 but you can certainly be faster than this with 4 doors for less money.
@@matthowell8985 if faster is your only goal then sure. I listed the S4 for reference
The Golf R is faster and only 4 cylinders and a bit less expensive.
Another sedan that looks great but too heavy making it run like a turtle...
Its more nimble than it looks when turning. The SH-AWD does make a difference. Its gonna get smoked if you try to race this like a muscle car.
Crazy how some cars never get an honest review because the reviewer cant even drive that well
Damn, this thing looks 100 times better than the new fake Integra, and it doesn't try to pretend to be something it's not. Good job Honda/Acura!
I swapped for the ITS the Integra is a much better sports car at the limit, manual transmission and the weight difference is HUGE.
the integra is doing what it has always has done, now with a turbo. cope harder
@@ShaiyanHossainStockholm would be proud. LOL.
No question the Integra Type-S is more nimble and fun to drive, but it's tough to argue with this for a daily/grand tourer highway car
@@RoadsUntraveled out of the two, I for one opted for the ITS for my daily (mostly highway miles), due solely to the "more nimble and fun to drive" factor.
This car does everything good but nothing great. And it looks good doing it. Thats what makes it appealing for the money. Yes you can get a BMW pay about 10k more and be faster. But then reliability becomes an issue. The Genesis would be the closest but it leans a little more on the softer side.
Can't stand the red interior so tacky.
Do you have one? Probably not. The red interior is perfection
@@robdswingingcrypto6228
I waited for a while so I could get one without the red. It was too gaudy for me. Only one I saw with a red interior that looked good was the pmc in Gotham gray.
Reviewers keep ragging on this car for no reason. There's another popular d-bag reviewer on here who said this is basically just a glorified Accord. Are you kidding me??!! What Accord is AWD and has 355 HP???
I think the last gen tlx was better looking. Woulda been nice to see that gen with 350hp. This thing doesn't look bad but not a fan. It's also too heavy for just 350hp (300 wheel). A letdown to the type s badge if you ask me. So much less performance than competitors at same price range and less.
Nice, but a 2024 Mustang Ecoboost is just as fast for much less $$$.
Exactly
These are great daily cars, but won’t respond well to tune for more power. Acura designed this engine to have boost at low rpm and keep it all the way to 6k.
They achieve it with small port heads, small intake runners and a small turbo which makes power instantly. That way you don’t feel lag.
The problem is getting more than 400hp out of this. You would need to change the heads, intake, and turbo. Then crack the codes to tune past 6k rpm to allow more power.
Now the problem is 10 speed. It’s not a performance transmission. Many have had issues with them. Don’t keep launching it or it will pop. Some have popped axles in these too.
So this is a perfect daily for someone who is happy with the power and stock tuning. It makes power at all rpm’s. That’s what makes it a great daily. It’s never lagging.
So it’s a huge trade off Acura made to get instant gratification and have reliability too.
My biggest gripe is it shifts at 6k even in manual. So it makes an awful track car. It’s a huge weak link.
It also won’t shift into first gear because the transmission will grenade. It’s not a performance transmission. Acura chose this transmission because it was cheap for them to build in house. It’s all profit. So they add protection so it lasts. So no downshifting into first and no revving past 6k.
its just a nice sporty-ISH daily and that's about it
Aren’t you tired of copy and pasting the same bs?
@@drivescene6747Not sure why it bothers you. I’m sharing my knowledge with others so they know what this car is. That way they don’t think they are gonna tune it and expect 100 hp instantly. It’s not gonna happen.
This engine was designed for instant power at low rpm for that instant gratification. That’s a great thing for a daily driver. Transmission is also in sync with engine as it stays in boost throughout the whole rev range.
Problem with large turbo and large port heads is it’s dead under 3500 rpm. You need to rev past that to have power. The good thing is you can make power till 7500 plus. So you have that 4k rpm operating range of power. Big turbo will give massive hp gains within that range.
Acura went a safer approach for daily driving fun. Small ports, small turbo making instant power from 1500rpm to 6k. You are still getting your 4k operating rev range of power, just at a safer and more instant way.
Problem is it’s capped out due to small ports and turbo. So it’s a huge trade off. But this setup makes for an amazing daily car. Always has power. No waiting for turbo to spool up.
It’s clever how Acura did it. The AWD puts the power down perfectly.
@@ryanb8736 that’s just the thing, that’s not entirely accurate. You’re saying that guys are struggling to get over 400hp out of this, which is just not the case. A simple tune from ktuner is 52whp and 100ft/lbs of torque. The platform is still somewhat new so more tuneability is still being tested in order for these tuners to sell reliable packages. It’s not that the platform can’t handle the power, it’s due to tunes not being available. As I have mentioned to you previously, there are many guys running over 400hp with ktuner and there is one guy so far in the 500hp range running 11s in the 1/4 mile.
The m340i is superior to this sorry. Tlx is a sexy car tho! You just can’t beat the b58.
With destination and comparably equipped, the M340i xDrive is about $70K. You used to be able to get the TLX Type S for ~$56K with the wheel package. They've since increased the price. Still a good deal, however.
B58 is a superior engine no doubt... but in most other categories I'll take the TLX
Maybe in your mind…I’ve smashed on plenty of m340i’s that rwd is not superior to our AWD sorry buddy
As it should be considering the higher cost, comparably equipped. The TLX Type-S is so much more distinct on the road and has all the power and performance that is actually usable on the road.
It is, but the m340i will be in the scrap yard when my type s sells for 25k.
This car is NOT 4.6 seconds to 60. Everyone has gotten maybe 4.9……
True. 4.9 to 5.5.
I sometimes use Car and Driver's testing times which I should've stated in the video as they now use a 1-foot rollout (drag racing technique) for their tests. Admittedly I can see how this could be taken as a non-accurate number. Maybe I'll state Motor Trend's numbers going forward if that's what the people would rather see
The 2024 TLX Type S is 4.6 to 60 and 13.3 to the 1/4 mile.
@@drivescene6747 no it is not. It is 4.9 at best!
@@AgonxOC google is your friend. The transmission was recalibrated for quicker shifts and it paid dividends in the form of quicker acceleration times
0-60 in 4.6secs 😂😂🤣 I race these quite frequently in my 19 year old M3 (4.8s to 60) and destroy them all the time. Get your facts right buddy
I mean multiple factors will give or take tenths of a second, weight, tires, heat soak, etc
Transmission Programming in the 2024 is different if you didn’t know..
Its ugly
Quickest Acura not NSX. Slower than anything else in class. Weird flex lol
Stinger GT1/GT2 smokes this car in every way for less money.
It’s a Kia though. Too many have had super bad luck and recalls with them.
@@ryanb8736 I had a 2019 GT1 Stinger and it was a great car. Had it for 3 years with 0 issues. Car was a champ! And it looked and ran amazing. Kia did a great job overall with the Stinger. I sold it and got a C8 but the Stinger was a champ!
DIG monster and a better car than this Acura.
Resale value is hot garbage on basically all KIAs. I learned the hard way.
@@cassideyousley406 I got $30k for my 2019 Stinger so it worked out just fine. But this article was about the TLX Type-S and I just pointed out what you can get that compares. I just pointed out that the Stinger GT1 gives you way better performance in every way for less money. Stock vs stock, Stinger DESTROYS the TSX-Type S in performance.
TLX Type S is just SLOW
1:55, 0-60 only 4.6 for 55k up price tag? My 15 Nissan 370z can achieve it 0.01 less. I know it's not an apple-to-apple comparison, but this thing is too porky. What a total flop 😤?
What do you think M240I vs Type S?
2 door vs 4. B58 is a much better performance engine. ZF8 is a performance transmission, where Honda 10 speed is a generic transmission.
TLX is close to maxed out on power, unless you change heads, manifold, and turbo.
B58 can be heavily modded for a lot cheaper and very easy.
TLX is a competitor for M340. M240 is a smaller two door M340.
@@ryanb8736
Thanks for your reply