Mazda, I Don't Believe You
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2022
- Mazda recently announced plans to turn into a luxury brand. It sounds intriguing, they already consider themselves “premium”. But will the car buying public instantly believe that Mazda’s cars can compete with Germany’s most legendary brands?
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Please put the inline 6 in the miata…. Pretty please!!
@@byrnesy919 please no, they just need to bring back the turbo miata. A 6 cylinder would ruin the perfect weight distribution.
*Edit: Apparently I was wrong about it ruining the weight distribution.
As long as the mx5 is fun to drive I will be happy
Keep a 4 cylinder in it. Don't cave in!
Please try not to change I love how the price, design, features and looks have..
It's a darn shame that the USA doesn't love Mazdas as much as they should. Here in Australia they're constantly in the top five best selling vehicles and we buy them in droves. They're reliable, aesthetically they age gracefully, and they're actually fun to drive for a decent price!
The CX-5 is selling like hotcakes in Australia! A lot of people love it.
The MX-5 is my dream affordable sports car.
This is factual, here in the US my sister owned one ever since 08' and it's still kicking today
its good ozzies love mazda, means you will get full attention from them. and i agreed, maybe its not the best car in every aspect, but for the money you pay you got a really nice car.
meanwhile its a different story at my country, people love mazda yet they dont buy them.
I love my 2015 Mazda 3. I opted for the S model with the 2.5L engine a 6 speed manual. Great car to drive, quick enough to have some fun and all while being practical.
It’s the rust. Mazdas are known to rust pretty bad
Mazda has done nothing but respect me and my money, and continues to give me a great driving experience and customer care.
Every time I see a Mazda on the street I think to myself. "That person made the right choice"
SAME!!!
thank you
I did love driving my mazda.. was a 09 and it rode better than my 2019 kia.. they just well put together and more fun to drive and it never failed on me
Exactly, I did research for over a year on cars and the absolute best car to get for 15 grand. I looked into Mazda, and how they have a reputation for crap cars, which keeps their prices down despite FIXING all their problems years ago. I got a 2017 Mazda 3 for 14 grand, and I've never once regretted it. It just works man, it's very luxury for the cheap price, it LOOKS fantastic, and sport mode is fun as hell
@@GlorifiedGremlin Really glad to here its been treating you well :) My 2018 Mazda 6 is a dream.
Mazda really is the BMW of the mainstream affordable auto brands. It’s astonishing how they can make a car look and feel so high quality while being within the price range of a Toyota or Chevrolet
I don't get the comparison to be honest because to me BMW evokes unreliable, plasticky cars that all look the same (I guess the last one is becoming a reality for Mazda as well...).
Mazda is basically a more premium Toyota, it's actually reliable on top of being luxurious.
@@namelikeanyother885 bmw plasticky? Nah
And apart from the last few generations which has been a disaster design wise, bmws actually look gorgeous, idk what you're on about
I think VW would also be a top contender in that category, VW and Mazda’s are a step above Toyota Honda or any affordable US manufacturers while being well below the high end badges in US, Germany and Japan. It seems like the Korean manufacturers are trying to get more into this category but they have terrible reliability, reputation and are still seen as cheap by consumers.
@@andrewsteavpack9079 VW is one of the least reliable manufacturers on the planet. In terms of quality VW will never reach the ankles of Korean manufacturers, let alone be able to compare to the Japanese.
The only reason VW is popular is because it's too big to fail, and it's backed by the biggest economy in Europe, as can be seen by the scandal.
In terms of practicality, Skoda is better, in terms of value Dacia is better. The only thing VW has going for it, is that it's "German".
@@namelikeanyother885 "One of the least reliable......"
One of the most over-used and vague comments ever to be used in discussion.
I can't really tell why (maybe because of gran turismo, maybe because of their tasteful designs) but Mazda has always been my favourite car brand
ur sellin yourself short. try a chev
@@Kdog307 are you trolling me? XD
The thing is the Chevys I did try were kinda sucky (Corsa, S10, Silverado, Chevelle... ) And the two Mazda's I've been in (MX-5 and RX-8) were the shit, so I'm a bit biased here
@@Kdog307 joking?
I don’t fit, I’m 6.4 ft tall
@@Kdog307 thats a downgrade, why would I get cheap american plastic with ugly as hell designs when I can get a much more beautiful, reliable car.
The problem I see is you can get a Mazda already with all luxery items now. Seems like a way to increase pricing.
They want to sell to chinese upper class
Yeah I can’t see anyone paying almost 70k for a Mazda 🤦♂️
It's a means for better margin to invest more in developing what they have promised us all 🙏
I trust Mazda, and I trust that they will do right by us - time will tell!
@@nickconkle People said that about Hyundai with the Genesis brand saying "no one will pay 70k for a glorified Hyundai" but hey they've been getting good press and gaining traction. Don't speak too soon
I love mazda as a budget luxery brand and that is most likely why they are 15th as they build nice vehicles for an afordable price.
As long as Mazda keeps their reliability, driving consistency, and aesthetic sense intact during this shift, I think they'll be fine. Honestly, just sound like they're making everything come up to the standard of the Mazda6, which isn't a bad thing.
Mazda6 is gone away.
mazda6 my princess
Problem is one of the big draws that makes the Mazda community so big, is that they're fantastic cars for unbeatably cheap prices. They're about to get rid of their biggest strength
@@GlorifiedGremlin That's what I'm thinking. The latest Mazda 3 and CX-30 for example are 80% as nice as a premium German car but 50% of the cost! (at least in Australia)
is there any unreliable Japanese car lol you can't go wrong with any of them, Mazda,Honda,Toyota. As an owner of two German cars who spends most his time fixing them because something breaks all the time I can say that my next car will be Japanese for sure, I'm done with these overrated European trash cars
Bought my wife a used Mazda6 twelve years ago, now we have a 20 CX30. What a great car! High end interior, awl, $25K. Can't beat it.
Mazda has developed their own fresh look over the years and it's catching on.
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@@miataisalwaystheanswer1356 your my hero.
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@@miataisalwaystheanswer1356 me too
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Its a bummer that everything just gets more and more expensive. I'm worried about Mazda moving fully out of my price range in the near future
Me too. More expensive and less 'sporty'... less likely I am to buy.
All we need is a cheap rwd econobox with a hearty engine and trans and maybe a factory lsd. Companies could so easily make badass cheap cars still but they know they'll make their money either way.
@@MrSirGiuseppe because nobody will buy it
@@MrSirGiuseppe That would be an objectively terrible car
true but the base models would be relatively cheap, and with all sorts of options to pick. im sure there is one out there for you
As a person who lives in Alabama the Japanese have my utmost respect. They make great shows, but aside from that they make great cars and help support our economy. It’s a strange world where one of the most nationalist states in the union is the one that is being helped out by the likes of Honda, Toyota, Mazda, and Airbus where American companies won’t touch us.
They're not helping you, just profiting thanks to lax regulations and low wages... They're just using you
You are not wrong, let's see if any of those nationalist types has a rebutal
@Deric Cribbs, I’m actually super nationalistic, just not in the way most people are. I don’t care whose company it is. If they follow US laws, appeal to US people, and most importantly lead to more jobs in the US, then go right ahead. GM in my mind is less American now then Toyota or Honda. GM has very few plants left in the US while the Japanese can’t seem to build enough here.
@@connorbingel7134 and it's been that way for years (decades?) Only recently has ford started to produce in the us again. To me the Camry, corolla and their derivatives are an American success story.
I am not sure it applies here, but part of the decision process for building new plants is to avoid the UAW union which often adds cost and complexity to their business operations compared to a third party
I've been a believer that they could do it since their last generation of vehicles. They've been able to escape their bad press from the Ford partnership and are going in an excellent direction with their cars. I don't think we'll see a German/Lexus rival, but I see where they're trying to go.
Basically, if you can offer a fully-loaded Mazda3 for the entry price of a base 3-Series/C300, you get market share. I think that's their concept of luxury and I can see them taking BMW for a little surprise.
Maybe, but a lot of people buying base luxury buy on brand recognition, not features.
what bad press? they still made good cars then too
They never did exactly escape it. There's a reason their cars go for a good 20% cheaper than competitor cars, and thats why there's such a cult community
@@GlorifiedGremlin they really don't
to me they already moved over lexus... lexus is boring, just as luxurious as the mazdas now, and god their front grill is the ugliest by far on the car market.
Working as a sales associate for Mazda, I've come to love the brand so much that I've become a customer. You just can't help but feel like you're in a very premium vehicle, even in a base model. The reliability is there, the fun to drive aspect is there, and the user friendly and responsive interface puts it ahead of all the other Japanese brands in my book. I have a deep loyalty to this brand and feel a great sense of pride representing it every day! Mazda for the win!
Get the automatic 2l and tell me the fun drive aspect is there. I test drove a 6 speed manual and didn't realize the automatic would be so awful comparatively.
Give us back the rotary
@@deathbyscope No matter how good an automatic is, it will never rival a manual transmission.
@@ConorDoesItAll in terms of fun I agree. I dont know if it's the electronic accelerator or the cvt the power delivery is horrible.
The dealership first car I bought was a 2016 115hp Mazda 2 in 2018. The dealership made the whole day really special and even bought my mother some flowers when we went to collect it! Every time I've had a minor inconvenience (hit a pothole and the bumper and rubber floor under the engine dislodged) they fixed it all same day and made me feel like it wasn't a big deal at all. Mazda has secured a lifetime customer in me and my family. The car itself has never had any issues and is so much fun to drive!
I can’t imagine a Miata made to compete with anything luxury. The whole point is that it’s a fun car and at some point luxury isn’t fun
Lol if you have enough money luxury is just a fee. But I think Mazda should stay where they’re at.
You forgot that Mazda has a secret luxury called Amati
@@mayuravirus6134 *had*
@@deeppowhazylab yea Mazda is perfect as it is. It might not be the biggest but it feels correct where it’s at rn as a cheaper or middle end car which is absolutely amazing
Sadly with electrification and the weight gain, as long as the technology doesn't advance, the Miata won't be able to be what it used to, so might as well make it luxurious
As a long time Mazda owner, the newer cars are amazingly reliable. I have always appreciated the affordability of their brand while still offering a really high class experience compared to other budget brands and SUVs.
I've got to say I do love my CX-5! It's my third Mazda. I previously had a 1987 MX-6 GT and a 1993 MX-6 LS and loved them as well. Fun to drive!
I've owned multiple Mazda 3s, the most recent being the 2021 turbo hatch. While I wouldn't consider it a "hot hatch" like the speed3 was back in the day, it is fast enough to be a fun daily, has great driving dynamics, and the exterior design and ergonomic interior is best in its class. It definitely showcases Mazda's attempt at becoming more of a luxury brand at an economical price relative to the big german brands. I just hope they continue making more performance minded models to keep that zoom zoom heritage alive.
IMO it has the best exterior design and driver-focused ergos of any class.
Mazdas today are better than Lexus, Acura, BMW, Audi, or Mercedes both in reliability and ergonomics.
Jealous you got one. They're rare here and the only dealership with a steady supply are the only Mazda dealer in the state charging over MSRP
I think it's a wonderful car, but I found the handling a little bit too clumsy. But this coming from somebody driving lighter cars. The sound system is a bit flat as well.
@@morpart7588 Yeah the dealer markups right now are insane. I somehow got really lucky and got one at MSRP back in November 2021. I did have to put a deposit down on it and wait 2 months for it to get delivered to the dealership.
@@tevonjames6668 Agreed on the handling. You can feel the torsion beam suspension in the rear is the main detractor from the overall handling feel, but the multilink front-end setup is still pretty decent. I've driven a non-turbo model that had BC racing coilovers on it and that was excellent. So that might be a mod in my future, along with some bigger brakes.
Absolute Mazda nut over here and I completely agree. I think they’re going to do well here. I’m just sad that they’re probably going to price me out.
They probably will include you in. They will never price themselves higher than Lexus or Acura. Maybe just slightly higher than mainstream Hondas or Toyotas.
@@puga4202 I can't find the article, but I remember reading that Mazda wants to bring luxury to the masses. Their partnership with Toyota is massive, but they don't want to mass produce like Toyota and I can see why; I use to work for Toyota and while the brand has amazing reliability, their quality in interior design is lackluster and quality control would deliberately cut corners to pump out numbers.
@@user-lw4hz5hx5h Exactly. If they do an overall price increase (assumingly justified with better features), then I think they're really just making more competition for themselves. Right now even their highest trim sedans are thousands less than other manufacturer's "equivalent" offerings
The same thing that happened with AMD pretty much...
quality goes up = price goes up.
The ones suffering is the cheap bottom feeders really.
@@user-lw4hz5hx5h they will have lower trims that will cater to the economy segment. People who want a good driving solid vehicle that is decent on gas.(aka non turbo 3, cx-5, mazda6 for examples that show this already)
I love my Mazda 3. Its such a fun drive and surprisingly luxurious, especially for the price point. Its a fantastic auto maker, I think they can pull off the transition.
I just got my mazda 3 hatch and im absolutely loving the thing. as you said, shockingly luxurious
couldn't agree more! Recently bought a used Mazda3 Sedan as my first car and it has been nothing but a joy to drive!
I always liked Mazda’s "do it like no one else" attitude for as long as I can remember. The first car I bought in my dad’s GT2 save was an Evolution Orange NB MX5, which was my first IRL car (still have it btw, love it to death).
Since I got the MX5, I fell in love with the brand. I now have a 2016 Mazda2 daily to go alongside the NB and the amount of fun you can have with that car is unreal.
Really excited to see what Mazda can pull off on their new ventures !
I can honestly say that I’ve never had a bad Mazda. They may not always be in the limelight, like the other Japanese brands, but they build a solid car…
Ever had an rx7? 😣 it’s a love hate relationship
Rx8
My 2016 Miata had A/C problems after 3 years and 10,000 miles and Mazda refused to pay for any of it (because it was just outside the 3 year warranty). After multiple dealer visits and $2,500 in repair costs, and the problem still NOT being fixed, I eventually just sold the car to Carvana so it’d be their problem. It was a terrible experience.
May have not had an rx8 yet then😂😂
Likewise!
Mazda: we don't want to fight German luxury brands at their own game.
Also Mazda : let's put an in-line six and rear traction
I mean Lexus and Acura does it too not just eu cars but ok lol
They're being humble and low key 🧐
I'm an advisor at the Huntsville Alabama mazda dealer. It was incredible going to the reveal event and seeing so many people, including the mayor, be so excited for the Cx50, and the prospects of having them be a part of such an opportunity-filled town. Super pumped!
After seeing what Hyundai/KIA have been able to pull off in terms of brand association, I think it's entirely possible. As it is currently, for my money, I'd still prefer a well optioned Mazda 3 over a bare bones C300 any day of the week.
Man, I almost don’t want Mazda to be a luxury brand. I’ve always known them for affordable fun. It sucks we’re seeing affordable sports cars become more and more of a thing of the past. Not to say there aren’t still many option, but the Miata has been a go-to for awhile now. Probably one of the best cars, by far, in the affordable segment.
I don't think they're going to discontinue the Miata
@@pnwet I dont agree at all. It looks like a classic sports car. The earlier generations are very much like a modern Lotus Elan and the latest generation is actually pretty aggressive in its styling
@@pnwet good for you
@@pnwet what do you think is an exciting, good looking car?
@@jorisramanauskas780 I don’t think so either, I’m just worried they’ll raise the price out of the “affordable” bracket
Love my ‘15 Mazda3. It’s so good I’m honestly considering an all-Mazda garage from here on out. The things that set mazda apart for me are not just the price point, but the fantastic build quality, the common-sense simplicity, and good old reliability. So long as Mazda maintains those three key characteristics, I’m okay if they start working on their luxury game.
what trim is it? I had a 2013 or 14 Mazda 3 iSport and the interior felt like it was made entirely out of cheap plastic. not to mention the god awful handling (or maybe it's just that bad with all EPAS). I've enjoyed my 07 accord much more in every aspect besides infotainment
@@chickenbeansoup2631 you have a gen 2 mz3. gen 3 = (2014 to 2018) gen 4 = (2019 to now)
Might I recommend you try out some Hondas, they tick all those boxes too
@@MarkIV_Garage I do have to admit, they are also very good cars
@@chickenbeansoup2631 I find that interesting. Like OtterRecovery mentioned, I think we had different generations of mz3’s. Mine is the I touring trim, for reference. Not the highest trim level, about in the middle. I actually find the interior of mine to be very nice, with really high quality materials; and I’ve rented a later Gen, and it was even nicer. If anything I find the infotainment center lacking compared to others. Not that it’s bad, just basic.
Hey there, Mazda Technician and fan of donut media here. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you guys shouting out Mazda for their recent efforts and for their long standing legacy. I haven't been with Mazda long but I appreciate the brand more and more every day. I knew little to nothing of them before working here but have quickly come to love what the brand stands for plus the quality of the cars I get to work on every day. The handling and acceleration even with the non turbo models is fantastic for the price range crossover SUV with steering/suspension that rivals alot of affordable sports cars. I'm excited to be a part of it and hope we only go up from here!
The CX-5 Turbo is a sleeper. Love the looks and design of it, especially the interior. Can't beat it for the price.
When my family first moved to the US, the first car my dad bought was a strato blue 05 Mazda 3 with a manual trans, and he took care of it like crazy, and when I turned 16, that car became mine. As a little kid, I loved Mazdas, as my dad took me to Mazda meets and cruises, but being behind the wheel of one for the first time at 16, I became a huge fanboy. I still drive the car today, and try my best to take as much care of it as my dad. Even though Mazda is shifting towards luxury vehicles, the old school sportier cars still hold a special place in my heart, as well as the entire company and it’s future endeavors and products.
I just wanted a Mazda6 with an I6, manual, RWD, and a hand brake. Reality is often disappointing.
The 2006-8 Mazda speed 6 is AWD, comes in a 6 speed, and has a stock turbo that makes like 280 hp. Look it up man it's pretty crazy.
@@tommyfobe878 unreliable + engine isnt very good for tuning without buying forged parts, and these cars love to rust like nothing else
Yeah that was only recently put on the chopping block, SUVs to me are a bit boring there are too many on the road now.
@@Maximus-vz7bp you might want to go for a different make entirely tbh
Agreed, but unfortunately the market demands automatic and SUVs
NC Miata guy here. Love it, store it in the winter and starts back up in the spring every time, no issue. Awesome summer car.
Loving my cx-30! My wife has had a Mazda 3 sedan for years and although it’s mostly a grocery getter, we haven’t had a single problem over the 6 years we’ve owned it. It was hard not to be excited about the cx-30 with its high end feeling interior, 2.5L engine and road feel. I didn’t think I’d be pulled away from the Audi q3. But I was wrong. Great video, keep them coming! 🤘🏼
Much easier to get in-and -out!
If they are going to go that route, I hope so much that they would bring the Rx vision rotary concept to life. But unfortunately, something as enthusiast driven as a rotary might not align with their premium goals :/
There is very little chance that a rotary powered vehicle will be able to meet emission standards, though I did read somewhere that Mazda are thinking of using a rotary as a sort of in car generator for an extended range EV, think of a small rotary running at a constant 3000 rpm and powering a generator to charge the batteries.
The key to premium cars is cars that can only be serviced at the dealer, put a rotary in it, them cars will live at the dealer, Luxury Achieved.
Rotary or no rotary. The RX vision needs to happen!
@@BlahBlahBleh317 Yeah but they would have to call is the MX or EX if its electric because RX means rotary.
The RX Vision is so beautiful. If they actually make it I will buy it at whatever cost
The FD will always be my favorite car, the sound of the rotary the unique pop ups, the body lines, the weight distribution, everything about the FD is just perfect
Imo the FD RX7 is better then a Supra or skyline. My god these two cars are very very overrated and am tired about hearing them, but I’ll definitely admire the 2JZ. And also the FD certainly looks better then the Supra. Not a fan of how the MK4 looks because it looks like a bubble, and the skyline just looks plain. Imo the Veilside RX7 made it look ugly. Never liked the Tokyo drift RX7 because they made it worse. A normal looking RX7 definitely looks better. I would love to own one but man the prices really drives me away because bro who would spend like $50k on a 90s car? I would definitely never afford that in my life and in the future they would be worth like $100k or more and that’s way worse
@@yungboicontigo9278 Plus the thousands of dollars a year on maintenance lol. Rotaries are terribly unreliable, which is exactly why most people engine swap RX's
I like the idea of a rotary engine, but like the commenter said above me, they are known to be unreliable. Also I find it strange that the rotary naturally burns oil.
@@StinkHatch5318 oh really? What do those thousands of dollars in maintenance include?
@@snaxgalore5764 The engine constantly trying to kill itself? They're know for being unreliable. Not hating on them. I've got a buddy with an FC and these engines aren't the best to own
I'm surprised there was little mention of the rotary powered sports cars of past decades. Those cars really helped put Mazda on the map, especially considering the uniqueness of the rotary engine itself. As an owner of both the Rx7 and Rx8, I'm really looking forward to seeing where they take the brand in the coming years. Thanks for this video!
My Dad's colleague had a Mazda 929 back in the early 1980's.... (The four-eyes!) That was super luxurious, even for today's standards in interior materials and finish. Happy to see them come back to the luxury class again 👍🏼
First time I drove a Mazda was when my company rented me a car, it was a 2021 Mazda 6. Probably the nicest car I’ve driven, it was certainly designed around the driver’s ergonomics. It was also a joy to drive, even though I’m accustomed to driving big V8 powered trucks and suvs. Good job Mazda.
Love how passionate Nolan always is in these videos! Keep it up boys!
I had a 1992 and 1993 Mazda 929, talk about luxury, the tech that was in those cars are still not available(as far as I know) in current luxury cars, currently have a 2016 Mazda3 hatch and love the bloody thing! Kept it up Mazda !
I've had 4 Mazdas and loved them all. What I really look forward to is an all electric Mazda SUV, or even a sedan. I buy Mazda for exactly what this video was talking about; luxury quality at a reasonable price. As an added plus, they are notoriously fun to drive and look great.
"The BMW or Audi of mainstream budget automakers" was exactly why I got my new Mazda3 in 2007. It was the closest thing to a 3 series I could afford, and it ticked all the right boxes- great features, great price, very fun to drive. Also, not complicated, certainly more reliable than a BMW.
The head designer came from Audi. They’re unusually German
good car
My 3 was an '07, too. Great car, but I wore it out and replaced it with a CX-5 since I live in a snowy, hilly place.
My uncle has the same gen Mazda 3 but it’s a pre facelift.
Aside from the number 3, and that they're both compacts, the Mazda3 and the BMW 3 don't have much in common.
Great video. You don’t see a lot of car videos like this on UA-cam… keep it up!
I got into the Mazda fan group from college, starting way back in 2015, when I bought my first used ‘04 Mazda RX-8. It was at 160k miles when I first bought it, and I used it as a college car (yolo). I drove it all across midwest and southernmost part of the US during school breaks, and my god, it was an amazing experience! Throughout the 1.5 years of ownership, and after adding up 60k miles, the car never got towed! There were few instances (once or twice) the engine went into limping mode all the way to the workshop and a few engine floods, but all because of overdue maintenance. Went up to the forums and followed some troubleshooting, the car was back on the road.
Mazda’s reliability made me fell in love with the brand. And I strongly believe they build cars to last forever, with the right maintenance of course.
Currently, I am a proud 2016 Mazda 3 Sedan owner and looking forward to own it for at least another 10 years.
I remember reading reviews when the second gen Mazda 3 came out, everyone said it drove exceedingly well. As a high schooler looking for something fun but frugal it sounded perfect, and owning one with a skyactive and a 6spd manual it’s been nothing but a sweet lil car these last 4 years!
If this means bringing back the Amati brand, then I'm good with it. About time, Mazda gets a luxury division. Could be a great opportunity to also revive iconic cars like the Cosmo and the MX-3, a 1.6L V6 sports coupe.
Agrred, the Mx3 had a 1.8L V6
Add an rx9 and i'm all in
I would like to see some high-performance Mazdas.
what about the MX6 :') always in the shadow of every other mazda car
@@iuanterry6642 same dude. I’d rather much have a MX-6 over the 3.
I went to look at a 2021Mazda3 hatch a few months ago because I heard they had stickshifts....I wanted a manual as a weekend car. In person, I was transfixed-the styling was very Italian to me, and the manual drove like a dream. I bought it as my second car and have put way more miles on it than I intended. It's super fund to drive, and feels very premium on the inside-it has many features that my Stinger doesn't even have and is just as fun. Mazda really surprised me and I'm a fan now too
2010 3, 2015 CX5 and now in a 2020 CX5. Love the Mazda brand.... looking forward to the added "zoom zoom" coming in the CX 70/80 with that I6 engine/AWD. Can't wait!
I work at a Mazda dealership and sell them, so this is great seeing donut come out with a video! I absolutely love the brand and can’t wait for more models.
What’s your favorite Mazda in the current lineup
@@carolinaturbo4572 Not a dealer but the turbo 3 is fun as shit and luxurious as a motherfucker.
I also work at a Mazda dealership as a tech. And working there has made me fall in love with the brand. They make great, reliable cars for a good price.
It's hard to pick a favorite but I recommend the cx-5 to anyone who is in the market
Have you seen any CX-50 roll into showrooms yet? I saw one on the road for the first time a week ago. Looks great, curious to see how it sells against the cx-5
Same at the port
I just would love Mazda to bring the “RX-9” or allow me to buy a 13B swapped Miata from the factory lol 😂
A revised 13b in newly designed next gen Miata chassis
the rx8 didnt sell enough and the engine is fragile to have it last its full expected lifespan of 120,000km (not sure in miles I live in austalia) you must drive it at a very high rmp and consitantly you cant take it for a spin and mazdas wouldnt sell enought to justify a new RX series car as sad as it is to say, also the polution they cause would be a big issue even more in the usa begin tighter laws around emmissions
Rotaries are DEAD. The idea of a RX-5 died some time in the 2000s
you can get a new 13B from the factories tho, they still made it
@@bindingcurve it died cause it was old and newer models were out
I couldn't be happier with my 2022 CX-5 Turbo! It is my first Mazda and I'm so glad that I made the switch. I almost went with the Mazda3 Hatchback 2.5 Turbo but ultimately wanted the extra room. Very luxurious, very comfortable, and sounds great when ripping around in sports mode. My favorite car purchase yet!
I have the 2018 2.2L non turbo version, I’m so tempted to upgrade to the new turbo, unfortunately due to the bad economy it will have to wait, I hope you enjoy your new car
I’ve owned Audis, BMWs and Mazdas and I keep coming back to Mazda. They really do make great bang for the Buck cars. Our garage has both a 21 Mazda3 turbo and a 16 ND Miata
The Mazda Soul red crystal metallic is one of the most beautiful colors I've ever seen.
Agreed 👍👍👍
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I bought a 2018 Mazda3 hatchback when I didn’t know much about cars. After a few years as a mechanic learning more about my own car and a lot of other I have zero regrets in my choice, solid good looking car.
I've got the same car and have the same experience. It's really interesting to see how they splurged on the important areas and managed to cut cost in other places that don't matter as much. They nailed the trade-off and it feels like a much nicer car than it should be for what I paid for it.
currently driving a mazda 3 from 2011 and even with 230k km on the clock now, never had any major issues. so refreshing after having a few cars that had more hp but werent as much fun to drive and not as reliable.
My wife and I just bought a CX-9 Touring to replace her Honda Accord. We originally were interested in a CX-5, but the CX-9's control and comfort blew us away. It's so far ahead of Toyota and Honda's offerings in every regard even at a lower priced trim. I come from sports cars and pickup trucks, and I never thought a crossover would impress me.
Only recently got into cars and most of what I've learned comes from Donut! Keep up the great work guys! You should do a D-List on the Donut team's cars! I'd also be interested in seeing some mods and more content on Challengers
Dude, please take everything you learn here with a grain of salt. These guys are on the back nine of “Fake it until you make it”. Nice guys, probably, but definitely not experts.
@@negativeindustrial Yeah fair enough but I do appreciate it as a bouncing off point. Getting the right lingo and asking the right questions and finding more research based on their fun videos
@@negativeindustrial that goes for a majority of car people on the internet.
@@negativeindustrial jobe is literally a qualified mechanic lmao
@@writer_brook like anyone they sometimes can get some of their info wrong but they’re definitely a good starting point for new car enthusiasts to start getting in to the culture
Even though they have the Miata, it would be cool to see the Furai come back and maybe even see it get a road going version, somewhat like a Mazda halo car
Furai car was several millions of dollars and it burned down :( Even today the car looks futuristic imo, it was the AMG One before the AMG One
I also agree they need a halo car as they've lacked one since the rx7 fd
I agree, some kind of halo car or just any kind of new fun car from them would get their name in peoples mouths.
Just any new lightweight sports car! A new rx model or new mx with a turbo! Or a brand new abcdefx model whatever. I'm just excited to see what they do all around but terrified for the next mx5
If the SUVs sell well, (which I have no doubt, the CX-5 and CX-30 are their top sellers) then they should have enough RnD for a halo car. I just hope Mazda stays true to their heritage and continue to put emphasis on driving dynamics.
I have been quite impressed with some of the features they've started including in their cars in the last few years, such as A/C front seats on my friend's CX-5.
I love my 09 mazda 3. It's definitely a commuter car, but has been reliable, easy to work on, and somehow has survived me speeding 110+ to work almost every day for a good number of years
Oh boy wait until you get into one of the newer models. Things went uphill really quick when they split from ford! I loved my 05 3 but just remember to check your oil, and replace your PCV valve if you’re handy and have a spare afternoon.
I have a ‘16 3, my wife has a ‘19 cx5, and two family members have ‘17 and ‘19 3’s, and I can promise ya, things are getting better each year! Definitely can’t beat the UI on the infotainment either, that alone makes me never want a Lexus/Toyota/Honda/anything American especially.
my mazda 3 '11 has been reliable driving to work 80km one way, now with over 230k km in total without major issues
My '09 Mazda 3 has seen quite the few accidental 4x4 trails...and still is kicking to this day. The ride is great, handles amazingly and surpasses what most people expect out of a car. It can do A LOT. I like to joke that its the hilux of the sedans. IMO, it handles extremely well for going 90+..It really can do anything.
Love my Mazda 3 and it will be a sad day when it gets too tired.
I drove one top of the line cx5s as a rental for a few months and compared to other Japanese luxury brands it's definitely on par in terms of quality and features but with a nice discount. Not to mention a thrill to drive.
I dunno the Stereo is really average and it doesn't ride like a Lexus or anywhere near as quiet either.
@@DEVILTAZ35 the one I drove had bose speakers which were quite phenomenal. Overall a beautiful machine. Felt like I was having an affair
I’m a massive Mazda fan. We’ve owned 2 Mazda6’s, and 2 CX-5’s. I’ve always loved the fact that they were not the obvious choice but offered driving dynamics to challenge and in some cases beat the default choice German premium models. It’s a shame they are moving their focus more towards SUV’s (because they sell) just as my wife has fallen out of love with SUVs and realised the driving pleasure that can be derived from a lower riding car. We’ve switched EV’s recently, but Mazdas current offering doesn’t meet our needs. I’d love a RWD 6cyl hybrid 6, but I get the feeling we won’t get it here in the UK 🥺
currently own the 21’ Mazda 6 and I am more than pleased with it as a first time Mazda owner.
I thought (atleast in the meantime) it being hybrid that it would become available? Especially seeing the area's older cars are freely allowed is ever decreasing there.
@@loganmw I’m not surprised. It’s a fantastic car. I hope you have many miles of enjoyable motoring.
My mother and father both owned two Mazda 323s. Great little first cars at the time.
Got a 2016 Mazda 6 in Soul Red. And I love it! Sometimes I just stand there and look at it. Such a gorgeous car!
We need more videos like this where you all talk about the new cars to buy from every brand.
Mazda reminds me of a small business that started and always did quality over quantity. Hopefully over the next several years, they’ll combine the quality and quantity and do very well on the market. I have my speed3 and have absolutely loved that thing.
Well said
Morning guyssssssss and glad I get to see a video from y'all... Keep it up
Can't get enough from these guys!
Ahh good evening 😁😁
This is awesome! I hope this inevitable means the rebirth of Amati! I just hope this means they won’t stop making the budget friendly driver cars that they so excel at!
Always been an either Toyota or Honda guy, owned both car brands but moving to Mazda was one of the best decisions I made in my life. Affordable, feels luxurious and now I have built my own 4th Gen Mazda3 Hatchback as my project car to promote the car company. As a rare case, I've gotten a lot of compliments about it.
Since the quote is from the Mazda UK director, I got a feeling they are aiming more at the European market than the US one and specifically the niche currently occupied by Volvo and the higher end of Peugeot's line up. Mazda already is also already much bigger than Subaru and Honda in Europe and their design language is much more in line with general European tastes than Lexus'.
really huh? i thought honda is wayy bigger than mazda in europe
@@rel6294 well a few years back maybe in 2010s then yes definitely honda was bigger, cars like jazz civic and CRV selling like hotcakes. However, nowadays I'd say they are about level. Honda cars aren't as good as the competition nowadays. But tbh both brands are eclipsed by brands like VAG
I feel they aim at the chinese market like EVERBODY ELSE!
@@carhawara3394 Could be, but most auto makers seem to think that the Chinese like really big, ostentatious cars with lots of bling, like the new BMWs and that is definitely not the direction Mazda is taking.
@@MartijnterHaar its not a "seem to think" Situation, thats market science. The Chinese market likes useless luxury cars! Like they got a mercedes a class amg Sedan LONG VERSION!
And thats the reason mazda wants to be seen as "luxury car brand" because they dont want reliable cars, they want cars to Show off.
Mazda has really matured as a brand since the 90s-2000s when they made so many fun affordable sports cars like the mx5, 323 sport20 ,speedprotege speed3 ect but hopefully with a boost in profits from this luxury switch they can make even more
I love this man, I've always appreciated newer mazdas more over other makes.
i was hoping to hold out for the 2022 Mazda6 gt but my car got totaled and needed my Mazda6. dreamed of it since 2016, finally got my hands on a 2021 and i've never been happier everytime i hear her purr.
Mazda's done it before, they tried with the Xedos, Amati, Eunos brands, and before that, they had larger sedans such as the 929. Remains to see how they'll fare this time- but my dad had a 929,and it was a really good, well equipped car.
Yes, but now it's SUV's! Everybody loves SUV's! SUV's as far as the eye can see! Big, expensive SUV's that will sell like hotcakes no matter what... right?
I remember the Jag like lines of the beautiful 929 and it had a solar powered sunroof as well. This kept the car cooler when it was parked in the sun. Amazing idea for back then.
I just bought a Mazda 6 Grand Touring Reserve, and it is mind-blowingly good. Imagine my shock when they announced it was now discontinued in the US.
I grew up in BMW and Mercedes sedans. 3, 5, 7 series, E and S classes. I thought I was destined to follow the family trend but the 6 is incredible for the money, the value proposition is undeniable. $20-40k less than a similarly featured E class. I was weary of FWD but it's totally fine for daily driving and bulletproof reliable with decent power at 250hp/310lbft. I absolutely love what Mazda does now, and I really hope their newer models keep their current consumers in mind.
If their higher-trim pricing goes well above entry level German models, it may be a tough ask for me as a current owner who doesn't really see the point in spending serious money for RWD and brand clout, but we'll see if their new products justify the increase. I hope they keep making their actual cars too. I know the 6 undersold but if Mazda takes the Ford route and only sells CUVs/SUVs + one enthusiast model, I will be a sad Mazda stan. Hopefully their push up-market steals those luxury sedan consumers and we can get the 6 back in the USDM.
I don't really like Mazda suspension but the cars themselves besides that are pretty cool. I like their body designs.
I agree about them making sedans moving forward. I'm personally not interested in SUVs or crossovers at all. I'm interested in RWD sports & luxury sedans. I like Mazda as a brand and all I want is for them to make a RWD sedan.
Yeah, COVID and the global shortages threw a bit of a wrench for them re: the Mazda 6. I got one of the last Mazda 6 Signatures in my area (in Canada so I'm not sure if yours and mine are the same model) and I have to say, I keep getting more and more enamored with it. Drives wonderfully and with the turbo 4, I don't feel anything lacking for power. The new Mazda 6 (if that's what they'll call it) has promising rumors surrounding it. Sportback design language with rear wheel drive and an inline-6....sign me up.
Exciting stuff coming up! Def pumped for the Cx60, but will still miss my fav, the 6!
I’m on my second Mazda 3 and I have the refreshed look and it’s the perfect balance of luxury and practicality not to mention a beautiful car and sporty drive ,I love it and can’t wait to see what they have in the future.
Me: Trying to sleep...
The mosquito near my ear: 0:53
I was basically raised in my mom's Protege5, with my first car also being a Protege. Now I own my dream car since 2013, a Mazdaspeed3, and I feel like it always get respected within the fast boi world of cars. The question for me is, is Mazda trying to perhaps grow up with some of its younger audience? Or is it that a "fun to drive car" brand can just make that shift up market easier than others? I don't think they are trying to shun the young fast boi tuner crowd (BMW sure has one), as their legacy of rad sports cars is pretty hard to turn a complete blind eye to.
I loved my Mazda 6. It’s a shame that it got totaled but my next new car will most likely be a Mazda. It was a solid car and at the price i got it for it was essentially a no brainer. It looked good, MPG was solid and it just felt comfortable to drive.
I’m in the Philippines and I own a Mazda 2 Skyactiv. Its the Mazda Demio in some parts of the world, and I love it so much!
Mazda has to do this to survive. Being a 'small' volume producer has ever increasingly made less economic sense as the industry consolidates, because larger volume producers benefit from economy of scale for production AND engineering, making it increasingly unaffordable to create a competitive car. Premium/luxury cars are easier to create a larger profit margin, at least in absolute terms. Whether they'll succeed is rather unclear, and if they don't they'll probably be absorbed into Toyota.
I think in some markets they're already seen as a more luxurious option. I came from Mexico where people see them as luxurious, yet they are everywhere because they are more affordable than the German counter-parts. When I moved to the US, I was surprised to see very few Mazdas. Unfortunately, people here seem to really stick by their personal favorite brand rather than shopping around for what's actually good.
I currently have a 2018 Mazda 6 and love it. Feels sorta luxurious without breaking the bank, and it handles extremely well. Unfortunately though, they've now discontinued it for the time being since as we all know, the mass market prefers SUVs and crossovers.... sigh
Two of my younger sibling's first cars were Mazdas. Broke down all the time, I got really good at replacing starters, alternators, batteries, belts, etc. on those. Protege was kinda fun, but bad torque steer. 626 was dog slow, but handled well.
There's always one like you lurking around in the shadows.
Not sure why Mazda didn't just create it's own luxury brand (again) like Toyota, Honda, Kia, GM, etc.
simple....no money, no matter how popular mazda is, they still dont have the leverage like toyota and honda to make proper luxury brand
Mazda deserves so much respect as a car brand. They never gave up on the rotor and ended up turning it into a badass engine.
Garbage engine in a garbage car. Qualilty is low priority.
@@ianrobertson3419 crazy how that “garbage car” is still selling for over $40k today
Your down bad
And the Rotor is perfect for a hydrogen power system
@@ianrobertson3419 You can always stick to your bland stock v6s.
I loved my 2017 Mazda 3 hatch more than almost any other car I've sat in. I wanted to 2021 but manual transmittion only came in the top trim, out of budget :(
Bought a 2016 CX-3 2.0 150 cv AWD in 2020 (with just 18k km on it) - still loving it as if it were the first day; despite being a small crossover, it's fun to drive, handles well, torque is right where you expect it and pulls till 6000 rpm, the gearbox is made of telepathy...love Mazdas and hope to stay with them in the future.
I see a lot of brand new Mazdas around these days (including one on my own driveway), so I would guess the sales are good now. But the fact that I could by one at MSRP, while the others either didn’t have the car, or asked +5k over MSRP might have a part of it.
But I have concerns about their plans.
- They are way behind with their hybrid/EV. We almost chose another brand because of it.
- It sounds to be too many models. That will lead to confusion. They only need one new model, between the CX5 and CX9. (I don’t know what its name could be…:))
- Are they planning to build more expensive more luxurious models? That would make them direct competitors to Germans and the Lexus. That’s a tough market. Their current spot of semi-luxurious, cheap cars is great, and desired.
What I believe they need:
- US production
- Hybrids/EV
- Better marketing
In our state all but one mazda dealerships are charging at or below MSRP, and it's great. No other brand is doing that, albeit some are if you order new. Problem is the one that is charging over seems to be the only one getting Mazda3 turbos fairly regularly......
Efficiency is a big issue, and the blame goes to their reliabile (since it's been tuned and adjusted for about a decade) 6speed auto. Manual is still one of the best in the business, but if you're even thinking about turbocharging you need more gears in the transmission to keep the boost in check on normal commutes. Mild hybrid/small battery hybrid system might give it a boost without compromising their driving. Putting the battery in the truck might actually help with weight distribution as the turbo3 is VERY front heavy. But weight is the biggest enemy and their nicer interiors have already added a few lbs. But if anyone is going to figure it out it's Mazda.
Another brand they would be going up against that im surprised got no mention, is Genesis. As an Owner of a GV70 myself, Genesis is going to absolutely blitz the Mercedes-Benz/Lexus brands in years to come, as long as they continue to introduce SUVs. Genesis is amazing.
agreed, genesis is stonking good while cheaper than merc and bmw. i would love to see genesis beating merc
Agreed, only other brand I would buy if I didn't buy Mazda.
I was waiting for Genesis to be mentioned too.
Genesis is doing very great. Good pricing and awesome design (i mean, just look at the 2023 G90)
@@gradientO I've heard that the Hyundai/Genesis dealership near me is very good as well. And those manufacturer warranties are phenomenal. I honestly hate my dealership I'll be adding 40 minutes to my trip to buy my next Mazda. I'ma call them out too: Art Hill Ford/Mazda in Merrillville,Indiana. Highly unprofessional gankers.
I have a 2018 mazda 3 and it’s the most fun thing I’ve driven. Perfect balance of just cruising, some handling, etc.
picked up a mazda6 a couple months back and this been a great vehicle. they got themselves a new loyal customer. excited to see what they bring in the future
Meanwhile i am still cruising in my Mazdaspeed 6. Never had more fun driving a nicely sized sedan which feels sporty as hell. Thanks Ford for that chapter of mazda's life.
Yeah I’m not really a fan of post 2013 Mazda. I like the affordable, but fun, Mazda that I grew up loving. I love the sleek and aggressive first Gen mazda6s, the goofily happy 2nd Gen Mazda3s (and series 2 rx8 and nc2 miata), the tiny but fun handling proteges and Miata’s that propped Mazda up while the company was falling under and gave it the life it needed to make some of my most favorite and attainable cars while growing up. That’s all gone now in the name of SUVs and luxury :/ Frankly, the current mazda3 (specifically the hatch) is awfully ugly and the downgrade from multi link rear suspension to torsion beam really makes me feel like they’ve cast away their driver’s car heart and are just another generic suv CTRL+C CTRL+V car manufacturer.
Man I'm always sad more people didn't buy speed sixes, those things absolutely slap. Glad you're keeping the dream alive. ♥️
@@AlicesMazduhs Well at least there's brz and civic type r now, as well as veloster n
@@IR-xy3ij the veloster is the only one close to what a mazdaspeed3 was. The type r is more of a fastback tbh. Especially the 11th Gen. Plus the civic is too big. But none of them really come close to the raw feeling of a speed3. No new cars are really exciting to me. Too many computers. The speed3s and rx8s are probably the most tech I’d want and it’s pushing it.
I liked where they were heading already. Actually good looking cars on the low end of pricing seems like a pretty good place to be. I dont know why they would want to compete with the high end cars when everyone is already freaking out about how expensive cars are.
My Mazda 6 Touring has been great for the past 5-6 years. Outside of always having to get new tires (Chicago and these damn pot holes), I really haven’t had any maintenance issues with it. A blessing.
My first Mazda was a 03.5 mazdaspeed protege I bought new in college. Loved that car! Traded it in on a new 06 mazdaspeed 6 when they came out. Then traded that in on a new 08 cx9 when we had our second kid. When we traded in the cx9 it had 140k miles and all we had to do was regular maintenance. All 3 were great, reliable vehicles.
I drove a Mazda Premacy in Japan (JDM 2.0L), bought a 5 when we came back to the States (with the 2.5L motor), gave it to the wife when I bought a 3 Touring, and recently upgraded to a CX-5. The CX-5 is the best car I've ever owned, and nothing in my motoring history handles as sharply as it does. I love it. My next car will likely be a CX-9. If they continue upscale, well, now I have a cushy government job so perhaps my income will scale with them to the point I can afford one of them brand new. I would like that very much.
As a Mazda owner (CX-30 was sorely under-mentioned in this video 😭) who hopes to continue owning Mazdas in the future, I hope that they keep up with the “budget luxury” approach, keeping the base costs low, but allowing lots of high end upgrades for the fancy luxury stuff. I like my cars reasonably cheap :3
I was looking for a nice fun hatchback a year ago, I was looking at the Honda Civic sport HB. Test drove it, kinda felt like something was missing. Noticed a Mazda dealership across the street, saw a 2021 soul red crystal mazda3 HB, test drove it, fell in love with it and bought it that day! Looks great inside and out and crazy fun to drive.
now I personally own a 2020 Mazda 3 sport gt and its impressed me inside and out the interior is just so luxurious that makes you feel like your in a much more expensive car and the handling just feels great even if the rear suspension is a tortion beam could barely feel the difference from an independent suspension so it feels like Mazda is doing something great for the future
sorry to hear. try a chev
@@Kdog307 do you work for Chevrolet? lol
Modern Mazda is hands down one of my favorite brands out there, I hope they have success in being a Luxury brand (but I want them to still be a little sporty! And for there to still be models that aren't that expensive 😅)
They need proper adaptive suspension though. They quite often use big Alloy wheels but the suspension is too firm with no adjustment possible which is a shame. Especially if you are used to Lexus.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Oh yes, they can be improved not doubt!
I could definitely see them being a luxury car maker in the future but I wouldn't mine some more sporty cars for sure, I still love the Mazda Miata don't get me wrong
@@jaydenwagner7905 Yes, exactly! I like as a Luxury Brand but I still want my dynamism as well 🌚✨
CX-5 2019 owner here. I love the CX-5! Fabulous car! Very happy