Just Like the Steeldive 1970 Captain Willard Homage ist the absolut best automatic for roundabout 70-90$. Stainless steel, sapphire glass, 120 click ceramic bezel, NH35, milled clasp…
I purchased one of these based on your review and I have to tell you I am beyond impressed. The quality of finishing and features of this thing are way beyond its price point. I got one during the 11:11 sale and I wish I would have purchased more than just one.
Glad the see San Martin getting a fair shake on your channel, Dave. The quality of Chinese watches has levelled up significantly this year, they’re really giving bigger brands a run for their money.
Seems like you have really changed your tune on these Chinese watches. Good on you! Value matters and these brands give you the most value for the money. Love the channel and keep up the good work!
They missed out on putting a 24 hr scale on the chapter ring. If they had done that, then you could run the watch as it should be used - with the GMT hand actually on GMT, and then you see two other time zones - the central main hands, and a third time zone via the offset from GMT via the bezel. Why this is a mystery to so many manufacturers is also a mystery - to me.
I actually own this watch! I bought it a couple of months ago when Jody recommended it. I have a large (107) watch collection and this is truly one of my favorites. I am wearing it now! I recommend it because of the specs and because it is very comfortable for my 8" wrist.
Another great watch choice Dave, I purchased the Casio lineage M700D from Japan when you did a video on that , it's a fantastic watch and probably the most worn watch in my collection :)
I bought it based on your review! Very happy, the only thing is that the link in the video for this watch it’s not for the San Martin official store .. it’s the diver watch factory store.. still a good source I believe
Im so close to pulling the trigger on this one. Its absolutely stunning. I just wish the black one had an enamel dial like other SMs, or the sand dial with a 120 click bezel and an oyster bracelet. But maybe im asking too much....
I got my first Chinese watch in '20 and haven't looked back as far as buying strictly Seiko dive watches about every 3-5 years because getting one serviced might cost the price of the watch! China has kicked in the proverbial door of the western watch industry , Luxury companies must be terrified at the prospect of a rapidly shrinking market as their market ages out . I have a single luxury watch and ten san martins or similar, from what Ive seen so far I am going to always own several Chinese watches .and no I didnt get paid to say that lol I live in the US
I own a few SM watches because I love collecting affordable watches and don't have the money (nor would I buy more than one if I did) for luxury brand watches! The quality is insane and they are totally reliable, I have various models on my wish list that I'll be ordering as and when finances permit 👌🏻
My biggest beef with this watch is how small the dial actually is. Not the case but the dial itself. On top of that, the bezel action has a weird high pitch ring to it. Other than that, it's a beautiful and quality watch
@@victorutomo7244 I mean, don't get me wrong, the color choices and the layout (and specs) are spot on but the legibility on this watch is really lacking, it's a real shame if you ask me.
with these chinese watches offering 200$ with superb specs, I am starting to believe that sapphire and ceramic are not that expensive at all. which makes me wonder why seiko still offers mineral glass on there sub 500$ watches
Great review! I prefer a timing bezel with a GMT or a 24 hr bezel with a non GMT. It’s too bad the bezel was at least a 60 click so that it could be mentally used as a timing bezel even though hour indicators are on it. Let’s collaborate soon.
I was looking to get a GMT watch and this came in at a tolerable price point. The crown is a tough pull out. It came in a plastic Tupperware style container, which included warranty card, instructions, and a tool I don't recognize. Edges of lugs are sharp, but haven't felt it on wear. Second hand sweeps nicely. I wish the back had had a design. Thank you Dave for showing me an affordable way to try a GMT. It's even a Seiko.
@georgetorres1739 Nice to hear. I have now also bought my first San Martin, you get a lot of watch for your money. the whole package of a 1500$ luxury brand watch. but affordable. I have the latest V2 GMT with the lapiz lazul dial. on sale for 280. but it feels and looks like a 1500 watch
The watch is great, and it's presented in a professional video. The design is original, and definitely worth the buy. I don't agree it's not exciting design, it is an awesome design. San Martin upped the game here. This is now a design worth higher end movements, not only Seiko movements. One thing I didn't really like is the clasp which scratches very easily just by holding your hands on the table, which makes me think that clasp steel i softer than on other watches, but I might be wrong. Also the clasp should be more snug to the bracelet on the side with quick release (7:17).
The only reason I don’t have more San Martin watches in my collection. It’s because I’m always torn on the homage thing… Nevertheless, I have three.. hey sumo homage with a strap code jubilee bracelet on it and I love it… A samurai Hamache and A 62 Maas homage… I believe this is the third attempt at a original… But both of the first two drew from other designs and Mormor all day combination homage… I like this one… Love the pizza price bracelet… And I’ll be adding this is my fourth from the brand .
Really nice watch, but I think this San Martin GMT is even nicer: "San Martin Luxury Men Business GMT Dive Watch NH34 Men Automatic Mechanical Date Watch". I'm not a big fan of the large bezel; I like a more understated representation of the 24-hour markers, and this other model has that in spades. Problem is, I already have a Seiko 5 SSK GMT watch, so I'm all set for a "caller" GMT. And earlier this year, I bought a Zelos Mako 300 GMT, which is a true GMT movement. So I'm becoming a GMT snob. Give me that other San Martin GMT with a true GMT movement (presumably the Miyota 9075) for maybe $400, and I'm all over it. Thanks for the review, Dave.
It’s a Chinese chop Suey watch. Longines Spirit Zulu time with a Longines Lengend diver Band, change colors and dial a bit and, voila, a Chinese original! (I still like it, it’s fun).
Personally, I wouldn't be sad if the Chinese manufacturers create a second "crises" for the Swiss manufacturers - not for quartz technology, but just build quality at great prices.
I know they were going for the 70's theme, but i really would have loved if the off white yellowish color accents were just a stark white, the watch would have really popped and been an even better summer watch. Still, really a nice watch :)
Is it really a 48 click bezel? That would be great, but it sounds like a 24 click bezel (which is also what is reported on the San Martin shopping site).
Got a Cronos GMT and Two San Martins, of which one is the latest seiko GMT engine. The quality is very good and impressed and shocked my co-workers who wear AP, Rolex and Tudor. One said why I am I buying £15k+ Rolex 🤷🏻♂️
Encouraging that San Martin is trying to create their own design rather than homages, but I’m not sold on the brand. Price is good, but I’d spend a bit more and get a bit “less” on paper and get a Lorier
At 11:06 you say this watch isn't original. It is very original both, by not being an homage, and by also not looking like anything else. What watch does this look like ?
It's very interesting to see the Chinese manufacturing and design beginning to chip away at the Swiss incumbents. Reminds me of post-War Japanese engineering and design: it was seen as inferior in every respect to Western manufacturers. See how far they have come. I think China can be original and creative; but it will take another 20-30 years of excellence to change opinion. As for me, after a 20-year gap, I bought a Seagull 1963 this year which opened up the floodgates for various other watch purchases.
I think the Seagull 1963 is a very important watch for Chinese horology. Since they bought the equipment from the Swiss. It was a Venus calibre originally right? Exactly, it will take time. Them making their own movements will be absolutely necessary if they want to compete with Switzerland and Japan. In the decades to come. I've always wanted a Seagull 1963, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Can't own every watch you like I guess. I bet it's a wonderful watch to own!
Hello everyone Can someone explain to me how do I get the watch he is showing in this video ? The watch he is showing has the hour and minute hands in white and black colours but in AliExpress there is only in silver I just cancelled an order of this watch because I realised the hour and minute hands are not same colour as this video shows Please help Thank you
Yeah, on paper every Chinese brand is a monster when it comes to specs for money. The devil is in the details - it may have a domed sapphire crystal, but it still looks like crap because it's not a real double domed one and has a garish purple coating on it, the lume on the hands and the dial is mismatched, the links on the bracelet get stuck etc. A good execution, like San Martin, costs much more than $100.
can the case back be swapped for an exhibition one? is anyone aware of one that would fit? the watch is a great looking one - except the super boring back :/
San Martin keeps coming no doubt, but this looks suspiciously VERY familiar. It’s very similar to Islander Port Jefferson for one. I’m not mad, just annoyed.
@@shaunmclaughlin5167 I bought the San Martin because it was a 40 and the Islander was a 42. How is your experience with both? I am still kinda looking to get the Islander 😅
I dont like china but I have to give them a lot of respect for how far the country has come. I am just amazed how advanced they have become from when I first went there around 2004 to the last time I was there 2019. There is no country in history that have adavnced so rapidly than china with the help of traitors within the US government of course!
Was just looking for a 39m not too thick case with beads of rice bracelet and your video came up. Now I have to figure out how to buy from San Martin. I'm in US.
Haha. I just noticed the Zune. I loved mine. Best color too. I don't need a GMT other than to keep track of my brother's time zone (lives in Tokyo), but if i did, this would be a good one. I just bought 3 watches in the 11.11 sale. I need to slow down. Lol
San Martin is great, got a San Martin SN0107 Ranger. Only one negative, the band was way too short, only two extra links, so still too short, and NOPE you can not order loose links.. So you got to ask all your friends etc...Find a Hobbit friend... SAN MARTIN, SELL LOOSE EXTRA LINKS!
I'm a recent owner of 2 sm watches. Both came with inferior chinese movements > I have had pt5000 failure and two st17 movement failures. sm needs to lower their prices, use nh movements, use exhibition case backs. And improve immediately, their quality control. Both of my more expensive sm watches came with defective SS bracelets that impacted being able to size the bracelet (one had a stripped screw preventing removal of the link, the other a defective pin, impacting sizing). 2 watches, 2 failures. Buyer BEWARE.
calling a chinese clone a "luxury" watch is just stupid.. for a 300 usd this is a rip off. im no specialist or not even enthusiast but i know this is using a movement from seiko... id rather spend 300 on a genuine seiko 5 gmt.. you could buy a Tandorio for half of the money if you want an homage to a renowned design such as GS or HAMILTON ... Tandorio is the king of clones for less than 100 usd these are some models using a NH35 movement and a Sapphire glass
I don't think the color of the bezel and dial work together. It looks odd. And the overall design is really lacking something to not look boring. Maybe a great price for great quality, but nothing I would pick up.
There's also a huge double standard imposed on Chinese watches. Western brand like Squale and Steinhart seem to get a free pass when it comes to originality. Just western chauvinists being western chauvinists, I guess.
I for one, do not want an original design Chinese/AliExpress watch. I buy Chinese watches specifically because they make great affordable homage watches. I believe I am not alone in this. I think most people want the homage watches.
Support from other brands with the same or worse quality product for the same price often costs more than the Chinese watch itself. You'd have to be a fool to not consider this first.
Because Seiko has a TON of very good original designs while SM are just skilled copyists? Agree that Seiko's pricing became qustionable few years ago, but there are still gems to be found in the graymarket.
@@quocphu2826Chinese brands and manufacturers using Chinese factories are entirely different things. Buying an iPhone from Apple means you have an American company with a reputation for customer service, warranty, and support. China can make good products when they’re either paid to do it well, or really want to do a good job. But good luck calling up Mr Dong Feilong for customer service, and then sending your watch across the ocean to Guanzhou for warranty support.
@@ihmpall A Swiss watch by definition is not made in China. It’s illegal to call your watch Swiss made if at least 80% of the watch isn’t made in Switzerland. However, if I wanted a cheap watch I’d just buy from Seiko, Citizen, or Timex.
san martin has great machining, but their original designs are still a work in progress. theres just always something a bit off about their designs. they could benefit from hiring a foreign designer with some know-how and paired with their manufacturing prowess they could make some truly amazing value watches with hopefully a more refined design to rival western brands
This is not only the best SM Watch for $220 for sale, it might be one of the best $220 watches on sale period. Thanks for the great review.
Just Like the Steeldive 1970 Captain Willard Homage ist the absolut best automatic for roundabout 70-90$. Stainless steel, sapphire glass, 120 click ceramic bezel, NH35, milled clasp…
I purchased one of these based on your review and I have to tell you I am beyond impressed. The quality of finishing and features of this thing are way beyond its price point. I got one during the 11:11 sale and I wish I would have purchased more than just one.
Wow now I’m getting excited I was looking to purchasing a fun watch to add to my collection.
Glad the see San Martin getting a fair shake on your channel, Dave. The quality of Chinese watches has levelled up significantly this year, they’re really giving bigger brands a run for their money.
Seems like you have really changed your tune on these Chinese watches. Good on you! Value matters and these brands give you the most value for the money. Love the channel and keep up the good work!
$$$ tunes can change $$$
@@tko8218he says in the video here he hasn’t even set up an affiliate link system yet - he isn’t making money here
He’s obviously been laid off by the Chinese government
San Martin also has that nice Grand Seiko looking silvery GMT watch.
I've been so close to buying this one and now I may not be able to resist any longer. The new colours are pretty wild too.
I just got one now as I watch this video, I really dig those classic vintage look and the pop colors are just 👌👌
They missed out on putting a 24 hr scale on the chapter ring. If they had done that, then you could run the watch as it should be used - with the GMT hand actually on GMT, and then you see two other time zones - the central main hands, and a third time zone via the offset from GMT via the bezel. Why this is a mystery to so many manufacturers is also a mystery - to me.
I actually own this watch! I bought it a couple of months ago when Jody recommended it. I have a large (107) watch collection and this is truly one of my favorites. I am wearing it now! I recommend it because of the specs and because it is very comfortable for my 8" wrist.
Finally someone who makes me feel good about having "too many" watches (46 including Jody's Erebus origin that's coming next year) 😅
I have 6 and feel like that’s too much good God how do you manage lol
I have close to 400. Rotate regularly. Sometimes 2 or 3 daily. It can be done! @@moneymikz
@@punkypink83 👌
@@moneymikz same way kevin o leary manages 🤣
Another great watch choice Dave, I purchased the Casio lineage M700D from Japan when you did a video on that , it's a fantastic watch and probably the most worn watch in my collection :)
Nice original design & very affordable pricing. The colours scheme is a good mix. Great job San Martin 😮
I bought this watch when it first came out, it was the colours that sold it to me. It’s just a fantastic made watch and great value
Excellent Video Dave. This a beautiful, very well finished Watch with excellent specs. San Martin is full value
I bought it based on your review! Very happy, the only thing is that the link in the video for this watch it’s not for the San Martin official store .. it’s the diver watch factory store.. still a good source I believe
Im so close to pulling the trigger on this one. Its absolutely stunning. I just wish the black one had an enamel dial like other SMs, or the sand dial with a 120 click bezel and an oyster bracelet. But maybe im asking too much....
I got my first Chinese watch in '20 and haven't looked back as far as buying strictly Seiko dive watches about every 3-5 years because getting one serviced might cost the price of the watch! China has kicked in the proverbial door of the western watch industry , Luxury companies must be terrified at the prospect of a rapidly shrinking market as their market ages out . I have a single luxury watch and ten san martins or similar, from what Ive seen so far I am going to always own several Chinese watches .and no I didnt get paid to say that lol I live in the US
I own a few SM watches because I love collecting affordable watches and don't have the money (nor would I buy more than one if I did) for luxury brand watches! The quality is insane and they are totally reliable, I have various models on my wish list that I'll be ordering as and when finances permit 👌🏻
I'm laughing at your hoodie as I just recently purchased the Seiko Alpinist
My biggest beef with this watch is how small the dial actually is. Not the case but the dial itself. On top of that, the bezel action has a weird high pitch ring to it. Other than that, it's a beautiful and quality watch
I understand. Just like most Seiko diver.
Big case, thicc bezel, small dial.
Always make me wonder why.
@@victorutomo7244 I mean, don't get me wrong, the color choices and the layout (and specs) are spot on but the legibility on this watch is really lacking, it's a real shame if you ask me.
This is my pet hate too.
Wowzers - just checking this out now on their website. Just might have to pull the trigger. This is a beauty.
with these chinese watches offering 200$ with superb specs, I am starting to believe that sapphire and ceramic are not that expensive at all. which makes me wonder why seiko still offers mineral glass on there sub 500$ watches
Great review! I prefer a timing bezel with a GMT or a 24 hr bezel with a non GMT. It’s too bad the bezel was at least a 60 click so that it could be mentally used as a timing bezel even though hour indicators are on it. Let’s collaborate soon.
I was looking to get a GMT watch and this came in at a tolerable price point. The crown is a tough pull out. It came in a plastic Tupperware style container, which included warranty card, instructions, and a tool I don't recognize. Edges of lugs are sharp, but haven't felt it on wear. Second hand sweeps nicely. I wish the back had had a design. Thank you Dave for showing me an affordable way to try a GMT. It's even a Seiko.
@georgetorres1739 Nice to hear. I have now also bought my first San Martin, you get a lot of watch for your money. the whole package of a 1500$ luxury brand watch. but affordable. I have the latest V2 GMT with the lapiz lazul dial. on sale for 280. but it feels and looks like a 1500 watch
The watch is great, and it's presented in a professional video. The design is original, and definitely worth the buy. I don't agree it's not exciting design, it is an awesome design. San Martin upped the game here. This is now a design worth higher end movements, not only Seiko movements.
One thing I didn't really like is the clasp which scratches very easily just by holding your hands on the table, which makes me think that clasp steel i softer than on other watches, but I might be wrong. Also the clasp should be more snug to the bracelet on the side with quick release (7:17).
S&M gets better and better
Yes S&M is so much fun!
“S&M means never having to say you’re sorry!” 😮😊
Great review. I am wearing this watch at the moment, it is fantastic, I wanted a San Martin for ages, but I don't like homages.
even the date is color-coordinated. well done, san martin
Great looking watch!
The only reason I don’t have more San Martin watches in my collection. It’s because I’m always torn on the homage thing… Nevertheless, I have three.. hey sumo homage with a strap code jubilee bracelet on it and I love it… A samurai Hamache and A 62 Maas homage… I believe this is the third attempt at a original… But both of the first two drew from other designs and Mormor all day combination homage… I like this one… Love the pizza price bracelet… And I’ll be adding this is my fourth from the brand .
I love my San Martin. This is a fun watch to own and wear.
Really nice watch, but I think this San Martin GMT is even nicer: "San Martin Luxury Men Business GMT Dive Watch NH34 Men Automatic Mechanical Date Watch". I'm not a big fan of the large bezel; I like a more understated representation of the 24-hour markers, and this other model has that in spades. Problem is, I already have a Seiko 5 SSK GMT watch, so I'm all set for a "caller" GMT. And earlier this year, I bought a Zelos Mako 300 GMT, which is a true GMT movement. So I'm becoming a GMT snob. Give me that other San Martin GMT with a true GMT movement (presumably the Miyota 9075) for maybe $400, and I'm all over it.
Thanks for the review, Dave.
Looks decent but for me it really is a ‘So what’ watch.
Going to buy this one, lovely color!❤
I love San Martin!
It’s a Chinese chop Suey watch. Longines Spirit Zulu time with a Longines Lengend diver Band, change colors and dial a bit and, voila, a Chinese original! (I still like it, it’s fun).
Chiknfriri. I can't see ever getting a china crap watch ever
Personally, I wouldn't be sad if the Chinese manufacturers create a second "crises" for the Swiss manufacturers - not for quartz technology, but just build quality at great prices.
I really wish this had an Oysterstyle bracelet. Would probably tip me over to buying one!
I know they were going for the 70's theme, but i really would have loved if the off white yellowish color accents were just a stark white, the watch would have really popped and been an even better summer watch.
Still, really a nice watch :)
Is it really a 48 click bezel? That would be great, but it sounds like a 24 click bezel (which is also what is reported on the San Martin shopping site).
It's 24 click, that was a mistake on my part.
Wow, gorgeous watch.
11:11 going to it now!!!!!!!!!
Got a Cronos GMT and Two San Martins, of which one is the latest seiko GMT engine. The quality is very good and impressed and shocked my co-workers who wear AP, Rolex and Tudor. One said why I am I buying £15k+ Rolex 🤷🏻♂️
Can you review a seestern? Love your videos ❤
Audio Adrenaline cassette in the background. Classic!
Encouraging that San Martin is trying to create their own design rather than homages, but I’m not sold on the brand. Price is good, but I’d spend a bit more and get a bit “less” on paper and get a Lorier
At 11:06 you say this watch isn't original. It is very original both, by not being an homage, and by also not looking like anything else. What watch does this look like ?
Not particularly original meaning they don't bring any game-changing novelty into the industry. Apart from the price, of course. That's impressive
@IgorBagayev by that logic..no watches are original
It's very interesting to see the Chinese manufacturing and design beginning to chip away at the Swiss incumbents.
Reminds me of post-War Japanese engineering and design: it was seen as inferior in every respect to Western manufacturers. See how far they have come.
I think China can be original and creative; but it will take another 20-30 years of excellence to change opinion.
As for me, after a 20-year gap, I bought a Seagull 1963 this year which opened up the floodgates for various other watch purchases.
I think the Seagull 1963 is a very important watch for Chinese horology. Since they bought the equipment from the Swiss. It was a Venus calibre originally right?
Exactly, it will take time. Them making their own movements will be absolutely necessary if they want to compete with Switzerland and Japan. In the decades to come.
I've always wanted a Seagull 1963, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Can't own every watch you like I guess. I bet it's a wonderful watch to own!
I hope they come out with more colourways for this one
Would’ve been great at 42mm, they’re making too many new watches that are too small.
Looks like a zodiac nice
Datewheel is perfect for me.
Have you reviewed the Traska Venturer II?
Cant decide to get this one or the SN0138 (bb 54)?? What size wrist do you have?? Thanks
Come on, San Martin, please now do a GMT with a miyota movement.....
Hello everyone
Can someone explain to me how do I get the watch he is showing in this video ? The watch he is showing has the hour and minute hands in white and black colours but in AliExpress there is only in silver I just cancelled an order of this watch because I realised the hour and minute hands are not same colour as this video shows
Please help
Thank you
❤ San Martin and Watchdives
What is their QC like?
I paid less than half of that cost for a Pagani design 1661(rolex deep sea homage) and it had all the same specs. Talk about a budget specmonster
San Martin quality is much better than Pagani.
@@rickhammel9541 Facts.
Yeah, on paper every Chinese brand is a monster when it comes to specs for money. The devil is in the details - it may have a domed sapphire crystal, but it still looks like crap because it's not a real double domed one and has a garish purple coating on it, the lume on the hands and the dial is mismatched, the links on the bracelet get stuck etc. A good execution, like San Martin, costs much more than $100.
But this is an original design.
@goxcpre One of the very few, and perhaps the only wearable. SM are nowhere near Seiko at the moment.
Reminds me of a Baltic GMT.
I own several SM watches of original design. Absolutely incredible watches
Looks like the 11/11 sale is good through 11/17.
I try to avoid Chinese products but of course that’s a challenge however I’m not going down that road on watches
can the case back be swapped for an exhibition one? is anyone aware of one that would fit? the watch is a great looking one - except the super boring back :/
Not worth it as the caliber looks equally boring.😂😉
and yet does anyone know of a case back that would fit?!
Makes my Rolex look boring.
San Martin keeps coming no doubt, but this looks suspiciously VERY familiar. It’s very similar to Islander Port Jefferson for one. I’m not mad, just annoyed.
I own both and think it’s just coincidence they share some similarities.
@@shaunmclaughlin5167 I bought the San Martin because it was a 40 and the Islander was a 42. How is your experience with both? I am still kinda looking to get the Islander 😅
@@jaymt1982the Islander is a great watch but I haven’t fallen in love with it like the San Martin. Doesn’t feel much bigger on the wrist.
@@jaymt1982 oh, I should also mention the hands and indices on the Port Jefferson are a step above cheaper Islander models too.
Just seems like they are both inspired by retro skin divers
Nice Zune
I dont like china but I have to give them a lot of respect for how far the country has come. I am just amazed how advanced they have become from when I first went there around 2004 to the last time I was there 2019. There is no country in history that have adavnced so rapidly than china with the help of traitors within the US government of course!
Was just looking for a 39m not too thick case with beads of rice bracelet and your
video came up. Now I have to figure out how to buy from San Martin. I'm in US.
Aliexpress. I have just bought another watch from them.
@@Čangrizavi_Cinik
Good to know. Thxs
Haha. I just noticed the Zune. I loved mine. Best color too.
I don't need a GMT other than to keep track of my brother's time zone (lives in Tokyo), but if i did, this would be a good one. I just bought 3 watches in the 11.11 sale. I need to slow down. Lol
San Martin is great, got a San Martin SN0107 Ranger. Only one negative, the band was way too short, only two extra links, so still too short, and NOPE you can not order loose links.. So you got to ask all your friends etc...Find a Hobbit friend... SAN MARTIN, SELL LOOSE EXTRA LINKS!
I'm a recent owner of 2 sm watches. Both came with inferior chinese movements > I have had pt5000 failure and two st17 movement failures. sm needs to lower their prices, use nh movements, use exhibition case backs. And improve immediately, their quality control. Both of my more expensive sm watches came with defective SS bracelets that impacted being able to size the bracelet (one had a stripped screw preventing removal of the link, the other a defective pin, impacting sizing). 2 watches, 2 failures. Buyer BEWARE.
What SanMartin watch uses the st17 ?
He’s LITERALLY SHOWING YOU a Seiko movement. I have the PT 5000 movement, +2 seconds a day, rock solid.
SM honors thier warranty
I think there are people out there determined to trash the SanMartin name.
Even if they have to make stuff up🤣
This watch is a great piece from the company but this particular color way is a no go for me. It’s too “Fisher Price”.
Not bad but not for me because I like traditional watch brands.
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I will never buy a San Martin watch as I really hate the logo on the dial. It destroys the aesthetics of every watch they produce.
46mm l2l is kinda of big deal, if they comes with 38 or 42mm is way better
calling a chinese clone a "luxury" watch is just stupid.. for a 300 usd this is a rip off. im no specialist or not even enthusiast but i know this is using a movement from seiko... id rather spend 300 on a genuine seiko 5 gmt.. you could buy a Tandorio for half of the money if you want an homage to a renowned design such as GS or HAMILTON ... Tandorio is the king of clones for less than 100 usd these are some models using a NH35 movement and a Sapphire glass
I don't think the color of the bezel and dial work together. It looks odd.
And the overall design is really lacking something to not look boring.
Maybe a great price for great quality, but nothing I would pick up.
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I think originality is overrated, most mainstream and micro brands imitate each other’s style and design characteristics to some degree.
There's also a huge double standard imposed on Chinese watches. Western brand like Squale and Steinhart seem to get a free pass when it comes to originality. Just western chauvinists being western chauvinists, I guess.
I just got a pagani with a VH31, sapphire crystal, screw down crown, for 37 dollars. No sale.
My Pagani Designs are superior to the Seiko 5s and Orients i have owned.
Very Nice watch.................but an.appalling San Martin logo....it is such aa wrong logo. Could never wear it .
I for one, do not want an original design Chinese/AliExpress watch. I buy Chinese watches specifically because they make great affordable homage watches. I believe I am not alone in this. I think most people want the homage watches.
“Luxury” and “300 dollars” don’t belong in the same sentence.
This looks like a zodiac
Why the useless ring and the extra ring nobody uses or understands??? Don't want it, don't need it...
I like the ring but not that colour bezel against that face
Please try Titan watches an Indian
Watch brand and fifth-largest watch manufacturer in the world.
Chinese luxury watch !!! 😂😂😂😂 UA-camrs can’t help themselves 🤦🏻♂️
They are not luxury watches!!! This is not an original design either. It's a micro brand homage!!
To what
In my mind Seiko as a brand failed. SNXS times have passed and China brands are here to slap them hard.
Nice but sorry I don't like Chinese watches.
its chinese haha not worth my time
Chinese just copy everything avoid
You’d have to be a fool to think there’s any customer service or support from a Chinese brand.
Support from other brands with the same or worse quality product for the same price often costs more than the Chinese watch itself. You'd have to be a fool to not consider this first.
Why would anyone buy a seiko when you can get a san martin. Same movements and much better materials, finishin and value.
Because Seiko has a TON of very good original designs while SM are just skilled copyists? Agree that Seiko's pricing became qustionable few years ago, but there are still gems to be found in the graymarket.
Seiko has heritage. I like both Seiko and SM
I keep posting comments on SM watches in hope of these guys change this ugly logo once day. Then I may buy a unit.
Sorry Sorry ... But I don't buy any Chinese brand
Let's check again how many products in your house that are from china then reconsider this reply
I came for the music. I stayed for the watch.
@@quocphu2826Chinese brands and manufacturers using Chinese factories are entirely different things. Buying an iPhone from Apple means you have an American company with a reputation for customer service, warranty, and support. China can make good products when they’re either paid to do it well, or really want to do a good job. But good luck calling up Mr Dong Feilong for customer service, and then sending your watch across the ocean to Guanzhou for warranty support.
Stick to getting ripped off by the Swiss who also make everything in China
@@ihmpall A Swiss watch by definition is not made in China. It’s illegal to call your watch Swiss made if at least 80% of the watch isn’t made in Switzerland. However, if I wanted a cheap watch I’d just buy from Seiko, Citizen, or Timex.
san martin has great machining, but their original designs are still a work in progress. theres just always something a bit off about their designs. they could benefit from hiring a foreign designer with some know-how and paired with their manufacturing prowess they could make some truly amazing value watches with hopefully a more refined design to rival western brands
How much does SM pay you?❤❤❤❤❤