The Troubled History Of Henry & His Models: The History Of TTTE
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2021
- A brief history of not only Henry The Big Green Engine; but the models of him and his troubled past!
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If saving James was such a 'drama' imagine the nightmare when saving Henry.
Oh hey Leo, your videos are good.
OMG YEEEES AS!
Ok what is all this about saving James? I keep hearing it, but never see it
Hi leo! Can you make some videos with your son again?
If making Mad Bomber 2 was such a drama in youtube, Imagine the nightmare of trying to make the video itself before scrapping the idea.
"I suffer dreadfully, and no one cares."
“Your too fat! You need exercise!” Said thomas
Rubbish your just an old sod said mattel
I care about Henry
The Thomas fandom right now
"You're too expensive Henry, you had lots of new parts and new paint too but they've done you no good."
He wasn't removed, he was spared from the massacre.
Agreed, in fact once it was announced they got rid of Rebecca for Kana, and nearly all of the ‘current’ steam team(minus Thomas, Gordon, Percy, Nia and Emily) and almost everyone else(minus diesel) for new characters it lost what made it great
@@superplushtiman7ti075 Emily isn't in season 25
@@kuregami3035 she is. Only for one scene in the trailer
@@superplushtiman7ti075 so its been offically comfirmed by Mattel that they have permantely retired not only Henry but also Emily and Rebecca as well then?
@@eliotreader8220 Henry and Rebecca are gone, but Emily is seen briefly in the season 25 trailer
Remember when the series didn’t have a “steam team”.
Good times
Mhm
I think it's a funny idea in concept. Like when Toby arrived and they all realise they fill up Tidmouth Sheds now and Thomas says "Hey since we're all a team and steam engines, we should call ourselves the Steam Team!"
And the other engines, except Edward and Percy, laugh and say it will never catch on.
I personally thought that the idea of a Steam Team was just to highlight the importance of these engines; that they were here since the beginning, and act as (somewhat) wise sages, and keeping eye on the railway they worked so hard to make prosper.
I should also point out that *no one* in the team prior to BWBA ever referred to themselves as "The Steam Team". It was all a marketing trick, and that was fine, because it was a way to catch kid's attention. Anything that is heavily used for marketing, but doesn't affect the show, is fine in my eyes.
Now BWBA just makes the idea cringy (amongst other things). Instead of being nonchalant, now everyone refers to the name as if they are a super hero team. Just look at the special "Steam Team to the Rescue". Bloody embarrassing.
@Frana Gaming haha lol but to be fair the engines who stayed at Tidmouth prior to BWBA was justified as they had jobs/branch lines near the place. Also I think they would be more comfortable being around each other for so many years to the point where they consider each other family and just like each others company(even if they get on each other's nerves). Kinda like room mates
I call them the “The Originals”
Trainboy: he is irreplaceble
Mattel: *laughs* you are wrong
He isnt replacable
Down in our hearts
@@urtooslow4415 well mattel doesnt have such thing so.....
@@namesarenotimp0rtant hopefully i woudnt mind seeing that
If only Mattel had treated Henry with the respect he deserved.
Luke's Locos arrived at the video, just in time!
Well done!
Rebecca is a nice character in all, but she can never be as good as Henry.
Rebecca isnt even a good character. She has no story whatsoever. No flaws. No arc.
@@stepney_studios no she isn’t
If she was introduced earlier in the series. I feel like she would have had a better story/arc. With problems. Although, I feel like she would he like molly, but she would end up having her own birth at tidmouth sheds
She's not a "nice character", what r u talking about ?
@@stepney_studios I'm afraid she's not. She fits in esthetically, but is so bland and overly perfect and safe from any difficulty that I can't not dislike her.
Despite his tragic past, Henry always puffed onward. Never giving up and learning more about life as he aged. Despite being arrogant and snarky back then, after his crash, Henry became wiser and let his walls down to let his more vulnerable sides show.
Even after being replaced, Henry will never be forgotten. He's been with the team for over 21 seasons of Thomas and Friends. He's experienced the highs, the lows, and the in-between. And although he's not seen on screen that much anymore, it doesn't mean he isn't being really useful. And besides, whenever Rebecca or Gordon can't take the express, Henry will take the role for them.
Henry's a role model to show engines and people that no matter what your past may have been, it's what you do with your life that makes you loved and remembered.
The weird thing is, Henry's going to be in the reboot. At least, according to an article I read.
@@r41lway329 Well we don't know yet. Season 25 hasn't been greenlit yet from what I've heard and the cast would be just Thomas, Gordon, and maybe Sir Topham hat. But in any case, I'm only going to watch the first episode of season 25 and stop there.
I remember seeing this dude when he was under 1.000 subscribers.
Now he has 17.000.
Incredible.
And now, over 40k
Poor Henry, indeed.
And going back to watching the series from start to finish, yeah...Rebecca hasn't lived up to what Henry evolved into over the years. He's gone from coming off as a less stuff Gorden to turning into the original crew's gentle giant. I mean I tried; I watched the newer episodes with Rebecca and she is SUCH 'THE GIRL' character it's not even fun...and this is coming from a girl who grew up watching Thomas.
Plus, and I apologize for getting kinda schmaltzy here, but with Henry having troubles with his build and the way he powered through it DESPITE that (mostly in later seasons) it actually warmed my heart a bit how Henry came off as the person would probably be told he couldn't do things due to health reasons but would later go on to show he could do it DESPITE having certain issues that would otherwise be considered setbacks. And they do show him going through problems but he still pulls through.
AND MATTEL THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO GET RID OF HIM!? Both he and Edward had backstories and characterization that were so well rounded but just because they were guys they dumped them? For characters who's only traits are GIRL and AFRICAN GIRL, that have NOT evolved since then?
What a (train horn)-ing joke.
ok so i never noticed that his splashers disappeared then reappeared....
Now you see them, now you don’t
Mandela effect
He can switch between being a Black 5 or a Jubilee
its the fact that Mattel replaced 2 of the FIRST CHARACTERS that pisses me off, Edward and Henry are like, 2 of the first 5 engines you get introduced to, that have been with us since the beginning, and Mattel just tosses them aside for 2 10 piece Chicken McNobody characters thatll NEVER be able to fill in for the 2 they replaced, no matter how hard Mattel tries to
They should've kept Edward and Henry, and then made a side series with the new characters with occasional cameos from the steam team and I wish they moved the spotlight to other characters like Diesel 10, Donald and Douglas, Lady, and others. However, Mattel just kept pouring more salt on the wound.
@@jillssandwiches42069 corporations these days will do anything for money.
even if it means they ruin a beloved childrens show *cough season25*
Love the video Mattel thinks Henry can just be gone but kids are going to know who he is when the ask who is the number three engine Henry and Edward are two of my favorite engines and Mattel will never take that away
1:57 Wait...what!? TWO Henrys !?! This one of the best videos you have done analyzing a character and it hints at a possible mystery too!! Henry makes three!!!
Seeing as Henry is my favorite character, that ending was beautiful.
We still have one mystery
Which is BBC’s 1953 Henry model
Probably just a LNER c1 or a1
It was actually found, and its on the process of restoration
@@aegis_9690 where?
@@aegis_9690 link to any info, at all?
@@aegis_9690 Link?
Henry has got to be the most relatable character out of all
Quite ironic that Henry had a troubled introduction in the show, and a troubled relationship with his creator
Henry is a inspiration who pulled threw his problems and thrived,Its a real shame mattel is so stupid and didnt notice this
YES! I always saw Henry was the character who showed kids that despite difficulties, you can make it through. I mean, for a series that claims to be about 'representing the kids' or whatever, they got rid of the character that one could say represented kids with disabilities.
Hmmmm, funny that HUH Mattel?
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid i really hope mattel gets some real hard karma
He was sometimes grumpy and rude, but that too makes him feel so natural as a character.
I actually had a thought about the RWS' "Two Henrys" issue, and thought perhaps it was related to the Ship of Theseus thought experiment. For those who are not familiar with it, it refers to a thought experiment where a museum ship has had it's wood replaced piece by piece as various sections start to rot. Eventually every piece is replaced, begging the question, is it still the same ship? And in Henry's case, he didn't just have parts merely replaced, but was given a whole new shape until he was a literally a different engine. Perhaps the Reverend was asserting his opinion on this thought experiment and that Henry II is a different engine than Henry I despite retaining his memories and personality (how that works for engines is a whole 'nother can of worms)
I didn't know that the firebox was interchangeable. Fascinating.
Good video. Just so you know, Henry's old shape had a round-topped firebox and Belpaire for the rebuild.
hey if you are reading this
fun fact: henry was never meant to leave tidmouth sheds only edward. thomasfan2002 got in contact with Ian McCue and he stated that henry was meant to stay at tidmouth and rebecca (originally called miranda) was supposed to take edwards space. hence why his departure was so abrupt and rushed because the writing team never got a chance to give henry his last hurrah, due to Bwba being green lit.
Henry has, also, been rather inconsistent with his personalities.
In the RWS and most of the Classic series, he was portrayed as a cynical, misfortunate engine,
While in later seasons he was portrayed as a cowardly, being often worried and paranoid.
I, personally, like the RWS personality more.
you cant really say that henry was not wimpy in the classic or rws. He is scared of rain
😒
@@carmelchocolate5743 He wasn't afraid of the rain. He didn't want to spoil his paint!
That's cause the CGI era is (by the fandom usually considered) a different timeline. He's been consistent in each iteration but not across them.
Henry is such an iconic character in the steam team. Really sucks that mattel had to disrespect his legacy by replacing him with some broad.
Henry is my favorite engine, I always liked how his character was portrayed and had a closer connection to him, my favorite(s) after him are the Scott twins
I like how you are doing them in order
0:22 He looks more like a GWR engine with that tender. Also, I may not be into Thomas anymore because I'm an adult, but I have to say I love these history videos and I'm amazed at how many revisions to all the characters there were. It's amazing that you'd never even notice the changes for the most part.
Henry didn’t deserve to be replaced
And my theory about Henry’s rebuild is that it’s the same engine
(I think you may know a popular theory about it)
And wanna know what’s funny?
Awdry was going to take Henry out of the series but realized Henry needed another chance...
Mattel did the job that shouldn’t of been done XD
Mattel sucks
I just wanted to say something regarding the CGI era. I think people are way too harsh on it.
Now please hear me out! I completely understand why people have so much love and respect for the model era. As someone who grew up with the classic Thomas, how can you not?? The models are great craftsmanship, and the sets they made and the amount of work that went into it is just outstanding.
But I think that people often forget the things that CGI is able to do, that models cannot. For example: the faces finally being able to move is one improvement. As a child I always wanted to see what the faces looked like moving, and now we get to see it. Another thing that CGI can take advantage of is the camera angles and close ups you could not get with models. Think back to James' crash in TAB. It's amazing! It's gritty and really feel concerned for James. The classic era crashes could do the same, but both model and CGI can convey the emotion in their own style.
In Season 20 there are so many beautiful shots of the engines and Sodor that is really trying to stay on par with what the model era did, and it really think it did it well.
I am aware that the CGI era has not had the greatest run, such as the boring muddy Nitrogen animation, and the less said about BWBA the better. I just think that it shouldn't be disregarded, because it's done plenty right
“He was so sad because he thought no one would ever see his lovely green paint with red stripes again.”
It’s a shame that this is actually true with some of the models...
Nothing can EVER replace henry
I think one of the definitive episodes for Henry is his forrest. That was such a lovely episode.
The idea of Henry being originally conceptualized as a 4-4-2 Atlantic makes me wonder why on Earth that the artists of the RWS would change his looks. It brought up the whole "two canons" sort of thing and caused a great deal of confusion. When I was younger, I always thought of Henry as "Green Gordon" because he didn't really look different to the Big Engine by any firsthand glance. Sigh.
Everyone always complains about the transfer to CGI, but I feel like it was a good decision in the long run, once they ironed out some kinks. Season 18-21 were some of the best Thomas had had since they had started making original stories!) It allowed them to do things that they couldn't mimic with models, such as allowing them to cause severe damage to the engines without actually needed to literally take a hammer and beating a model with it.
As for Rebecca:
Good character idea, I like her. She shouldn't be shoe-horned into the Henry's spot though. It just isn't right.
Henry is one of my most favorite characters
That’s what’s so cool about rws it feels like your reading something in real life, I miss the good old days
I do miss the og series but at least it still lives through youtube
@@Glitchonyx it’s sad that I’m the further kids won’t know what it is other then a kids show
I like how you used the orchestra version of henery's theme there,thats a nice touch ,can't wait to see more history of's
Why did they have to remove my boy Henry from the steam team?? What monsters!!!
Just for that I'm making a model of Henry you are amazing with your detailing in your stories keep up the phenomenal work
Wow I didn't know that's how Henry came to be very interesting
I didnt know the amount of history behind RWS henry!
Another great video nice job
Great video dude
Since I watched “The Flying Kipper” for the first time as a small boy to when I saw it the other day (I’m now 31 days old), I have NEVER been able to tell the difference between Henry’s old and new shapes.
Even after watching this video, I’m still unsure 😂
The most obvious is the firebox, (portion of the boiler in front of the cab). One has a smooth triangular shape with a rounded top (like gordon), and the other a boxy shape (the rebuild) .
Henry is a legend.
Always Prefer Henry Over That Banana
I love these videos
Thank you for doing Henry like i requested
my favorite Thomas character ever. Damn shame he was forgotten about.
Honestly I think Henry would have been more interesting as an Atlantic
4:03 you can see in the bottom right that the coal hopper is actually blue with the green overlaid, so that's most likely Gordon's model
Henry was my second favourite engine as a child. Shame on creators for replacing him. Audrey's ghost should haunt them for the rest of their lives
Henrey is my favorite character
I'd really like to own the Wilbert Awdry's Henry model.
Hearing the familiar tones of the Flying Kipper makes me cry. Nice work.
My all time favorite character in the entire show and he always gets great episodes in the classic era
I believe those locomotive plans were under the classification of K28 - unusual considering that North Eastern locomotives of the 4-6-0 arrangement were usually classified under the B prefix, while K was a 2-6-0. This is from an old set of sources that my memory is not bothered to remember!
- The Caledonian
I like how these have basically the same script
That's wonderful
Awdry’s model of Henry should be restored in his honour
Nice loved it
I love this video, as usual, but why didn'r you say where one of Henry's models is now? (Hara with Edward)
Henry is my favorite character, so it saddens me to see him go away.
Henry was the first engine I was introduced to when I was three years old and watched his episode in season one on Video on my great grandmother’s 100th Birthday and he has had a special place in my heart ❤️ every since and I am really sad that both he and Edward have been treated so badly by Mattel in the pointless reboot thanks for sharing this video of my special childhood Thomas and friend character ❤️👍🚂
Henry and Edward are the sole survivors in the fan made series, Sordor:Fallout
It's nice to hear you used Ringo Starr's narration at the start of the video for a change
Hooray for early
One of Henry’s brass models is on display at the Hara Model Railway
Bring back Henry Mattel and Edward as well
Might I suggest punctuation.
Bring back Henry, Mattel and Edward as well. (As in bring back the 3 characters)
Bring back Henry, Mattel. And Edward as well. (as in telling Mattel to bring back henry)
Henry is my favorite character
Love the new picture
Henry is a gentle-giant
I don’t understand why the new model of Henry changing a length of red stripes instead of a same length in the past model. When i look at him in newer series it’s always disturbing me. I felt very sad. In my opinion i think i like Henry’s model in series 2 the most.
Maybe the engines' faces are compatible with other steam locos. So the workers at Crewe just put Henry's face on a Black Five. Aww I should shut up before I give Paul Vids too many ideas.
Henry is my fav character
Fun fact: when the new TATMR models were made, the modelers actually made henry’s eyes smaller. Problably becuase young kids thought he was scary.
Awesome! Gordon up next
4:09 I see a blue section on Henry’s tender. I remember GWR Studios pointing out this goof before.
I would like it if Henry doesn't have the splashers so he looks more like a Black Five.
4:36 I could not have said it better myself
No matter what class he’s supposed to be based on, he’ll always be a better choice of what he is meant for his role in the series.
I literally just made that statement using Auto on my iPad just for the fun of it lol
You have forgotten the original pilot of the sad story of Henry and the model the one with the hand I’m talking about
I agree with you, TrainBoy. Henry is not replacable.
Henrys closeup model was shared with Gordon
It can be seen in the season 5 bloopers video of haunted henry
The most relatable engine.
And if the producers think diversity > ability, then they are insane.
Given what's to come in the next season, it's not unreasonable to think that Henry, along with Edward, Boco and many others, were spared from torture.
Also, What's Rebecca's deal? Why is she a Bullied West Country class that was painted to look like a stick of rock?
Rev W. Awdry actually wanted Henry to be killed off in the RWS. Could that be from his inconsistent illustrations?
Yes, that was why....
The music and the history in this episode is so SAD. 😭
henry is still in the steam team , he's just in a different shed
Henry has one of the most sad, triumphant, and interesting backstory.
I love Henry. You are right - Rebekka will not replace him!
If this was real I could see why Henry moved out. The reason being the Flying Kipper. Hear me out everytime he takes the kipper he runs all over the Island, ends at Vicarstown, and then has to chuff all the way back to tidmouth. At that point he is exhausted but by the time he gets back he only gets to have 3 or 2 hours of sleep. Making him the grumpy engine he was back then. So I can kinda see why he left. But don't get me wrong I hate how they just couldn't add an 8th birth to tidmouth sheds. If I were in control of Thomas I would build an 8th birth for Henry at tidmouth so he stays, but when he takes the kipper he stays at Vicarstown for the night and gets back to tidmouth.
Henry the one Engine I can relate to due to my disability that and I like his character in the early cgi episodes and on TAB movie
I found out. In Peter Sam and the Refreshment Lady, there were two times where Henry used Gordon's worried face
Rest In Peace Henry
is it just me or does henry have one of the best theme songs
You did forget about one little known model....there was a model from the original atempt at bringing Thomas to television, a model that we do know came off the rails and a hand had to put it back on again live
GWR studios' theory goes like this..
An Unknown Locomotive Designer Stole Drawings from Gresley. But he Don't Know that it's an experimental engine but the engine was already built.