Fresh baroque music from the North!
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2014
- World premiere recordings of Norwegian orchestral music from the mid 1700s does not happen every day. Gottfried von der Goltz leads his Norwegian Baroque Orchestra in this presentation of father and son Berlin, the German composer family who made a huge impact on the Norwegian music scene in Trondheim. Inspired world premiere recording of Norwegian/German orchestral music from the 1760s. Alexandra Opsahl is the soloist in the cornetto concerto.
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Great! And how little the world is... At least classical music world. I remember that violinist, Von der Goltz, masterfully playing the Brandemburg concertos with the Friburger Baroque Orchestra.
Cuanto amor a la música cuánta alegría.
Muchas gracias por tu trabajo. A todos. Es muy emocionante.
Wow! I've never heard cornetto played like this!
She makes it sound like English horn :))) You should hear (search on UA-cam) Dickey+Mille Regrets, pure grace and fluidity!
It sounds almost like a baroque trumpet.
I agree!
I'm not so sure the cornett is a mistake as some others do. While I cannot really speak to the Johan Daniel Berlin Sinfonia with any certainty having never heard it before or seen the original, it has another recording, by Charivari Agréable under Kah-Ming Ng and they also use a cornett, so it seems likely that is what was called for. And although very rare in the latter 18th century, I think a cornett was originally called for in Gluck's Orfeo from 1762! So it seems to have hunkered along as a curiosity longer than most people think. Hey, they were still writing for the lute, and the serpent lasted well into the 19th century. In any event it is a quite pleasant and entertaining piece with the beautiful if anachronistic sound of the cornett.
Amazing playing!
IT SOUNDS GREAT WHERE CAN SOMEONE BUY ONE?
there are a couple of makers in Europe. Siem van der Veen in the Netherlands is great. Jeremy West in the UK is the successor to Christopher Monk and their instruments have an excellent reputation. they also make "student" models in resin (not 3D printed).
the All'antica instrument workshop in Switzerland also makes cornetti but I've never interacted with them personally
A concerto for Cornetto from the 18th century? crazy. Certainly feels like a piece that would be performed on a trumpet. Don't get me wrong, I love Cornetto far more than trumpet. The true rock stars of the 17th century.
this was written for cornetto.
but it's quite special, nobody else was writing for it at that time!
To be honest, there's few more crazy 18th century cornetto concerts around.
This sound set me up for the day! Love it!
great playing! the concerto definitely has "flavors" of baroque and classical
Splendid!
I love it, thank you very much,
Nicely done.
Exquisite!
Man, this just blows my mind.....jn
Hermoso, gracias
El bajo continuo casi no se escucha, hacía alta un micrófono más
Pero muuy bueno, gracias de nuevo
Pukka. Beautiful music
Precise to be sure.
What song is this?
It kinda sounds like a cross between a trumpet and an oboe
Es el papá de ambos
Beaucoup de bla bla *sur* cette musique, qu'on n'entends que fort peu...
Well, with the best of intentions, I rather doubt music written in the 1760s is highly unlikely to be performed on a cornetto. I fancy someone got their wires crossed over this one. A keyless trumpet would sound a lot better in this context but for the love of Mike not a cornetto. If you bear in mind Haydn is about 28 and probably starting out at Esterházy, the incongruity of a delightful reminder of the past century is almost painful. Did this ensemble actually try matching the music with the correct instruments likely to be used?Plus which, by the 1770s the Baroque style had given way to Galante closely followed by early classical styles.Even a mere dip into the music of JC Bach or CPE Bach should tell us how music evolves and why Bach's sons found their father's music 'old- fashioned' and rapidly out of kilter in a changing age. I give them -1 for scholarship and historical accuracy. Talk about barking up the wrong tree! Ooops!Alistair
The published edition of this work, which is taken directly from the manuscript (it quotes the source and library) very clearly says "per cornetto". As far as I know, "cornetto" was not a term used interchangeably with other instruments, especially at this time and place, and since the video mentions that Berlin wrote a textbook on organology, he would have been very specific about what he was writing for. I'm a professional trombone player, so I'm not certain of all the notes available on natural trumpets in all keys, but I've looked at the score (it's on-line) and I'm not sure what key of natural trumpet would be able to play all the figures. And in the video they did mention that the piece is a bit of anachronism, being a mid-18th c. work for the cornetto. So I think your assessment that they didn't do their homework is incorrect.
Johann Melchior Molter (10 February 1696 - 12 January 1765) composed for the treble viol (e.g., Concertino for Flute and 2 Violas da gamba in C major, MWV 9.25) at about the same time as Berlin was writing for the cornetto. While the bass viol/viola da gamba was used throughout the Baroque era, the treble viol, for the most part, fell into disuse long before the mid-18th century. As historical research into music of the Baroque continues, we find more and more exceptions to conventional wisdom about instruments used then.
It's unquestionably for cornetto. The manuscript parts are very clear. Although it's an obscure piece in the grand scheme of things, it's actually well known in the cornetto-playing community as one of the latest surviving pieces for the instrument, and interesting in that the cornetto is notated as a transposing instrument, a legacy of the high 'church pitch' instruments like the cornett when playing with the lower 'chamber pitch' strings. The piece would be unplayable on a natural trumpet, by the way, as there are far too many notes which aren't in the harmonic series.
Or, you could bugger off and enjoy.
Claro en una trompeta natural, hay cada uno ...