@@lukewilsontv then why not get rid of one of your 16:9 displays. I use a Sony Multiscan G500 I run it at 1920x1440 at 80Hz. 2k Res and most games today still support 4:3 aspect raatio. If they dont I can deal with it or stretch it manually on my monitor or via NVIDIA fullscreen option. This is my primary display and I love it. If you live near Oregon I've got a NEC monitor that is 22 inches and is basically identical spec wise.
Too bad 4:3 displays aren’t made anymore and the ones that do exist are expensive. I wish 4:3 displays are still made today as it would be great for my retro consoles and retro pc gaming
I've used 3:4 aspect ratio for Shorts, which does a decent fill of the ~9:16 phone screen while showing more of the 16:9 source material and providing a "bigger" video when viewed on a TV. Definitely some trade-offs, but I like it.
I think my biggest issue is that each platform kind of specializes in specific content… instagram has a lot of memes and edits, tiktok has a lot of personal interaction, youtube is a lot of dense information, etc. so I have a hard time translating content between platforms while also catering to the strengths and cultures of each - which opens the door to repurposing content instead of reposting, and other possible ways of adapting to the current online media scape
Yeah, the differences between platforms is a tricky thing to juggle. Short form algorithms seem even trickier than more traditional browse/recommended/search. I am in a UA-cam partnered creator Discord where I see lots of people discussing short form videos and even seeing all that data, I'm not sure what truly makes the difference between a successful video and viral video.
@CarsSimplified I think going viral is the one thing you can’t control, but being confident, well spoken, just generally know what you’re doing and look like you know what you’re doing, and obviously provide some kind of value or novelty with your content, then when something DOES go viral, you have a good foundation to attach that to, and content that’s been waiting around for the new people to see. It’s easier said than done but I understand that now as it applies to my online content and presence at least
it's super realistic to see it come back honestly. the platform thing you mentioned but also the fact that i actually found this video organically cause i decided that i wanted to do 4:3, more cause my channel is meant to have a kind of running gag/style of looking and feeling like cable television and i found it sooo hard and couldn't realize why until i realized it was the aspect ratio
Yeah I do think that 4:3 is a functional standard in an age of switching between wide and tall displays, and also I too feel nostalgic with 4:3, it gives you a more centered focus and an almost balanced vertical and horizontal space and it's stretching of view isn't as noticable with most retro games.
While I wasn't really living to use a lot of 4:3 stuff, I seriously don't understand why it isn't used. For me, it's odd that things like movies would *intentionally* not use the entire screen.
Has more to do with the different aspect ratio of a screen on a mid 20th century tv vs screen at a cinema. TV had been 4:3 ratio and black & white, while film/cinema/movies were 16:9 widescreen and Technicolor. Watching a 16:9 ratio film on TV meant either that "letterbox" look or cropped to 4:3 so watching a movie on TV meant cropping out the left and right edge of the films image to more fully fill the screen with image as opposed to black space and smaller image. TV has always been looked down upon as a lesser form of art than film/movies so as modern technology progresses from 20th to 21st century the 16:9 ratio was preferred for viewing movies. In my opinion, 4:3 is only popular because it has that retro feel to it, and more importantly because it works better in popular social media UX designs. TLDR old movies were filmed in widescreen TV in 4:3 so movies on TV lost original framing by director.
That is one thing that I don't see a lot of other guys talking about, I switched to a single 5:4 Sony display for the last 6 months and found it really improves focus and productivity. There is just less going on, the document I am writing or the article I am reading takes the sole focus. Plus the real world is always available via periphery, books and papers on my desk are part of my view again instead of being pushed aside by excessively wide and perspective dominating screens. 16:9 is for media consumption, 4:3/5:4 is for people who do things.
it looks so weird watching in 4:3 on my ipad because im used to my videos just getting cropped on the top and bottom but this i never saw 4:3 aspect ratio on an ipad and it fits perfectly,
I had the same epiphany about 4:3 while watching UA-cam shorts the other day so its surreal to see this video appear. Glad to see others are in agreement.
Very cool, i just typed 4:3 in the search hoping to get some 4:3 content after rescuing a monitor from the dump and finally someone who gets it! well others do to but not the mainstream. And I cant blame them, no one has 4:3 monitors so no one makes content for it, but this makes a good case for it. Id just get a 4:3, its so nice to have the extra vertical space, things look more natural. UA-cam videos would look a lot better with the focuced view in lots of cases, you start to notice the unused space left to right while top and bottom is begging for more. What id like to see, is wide screen, but with more on top! the best of both worlds.
Usually, I make most of my videos in the 4:3 lens on purpose because I want it to be looking great on my CRT Screen setup. I may had some videos put vertically, but that was getting a #SHORTS_SUCKS label on it. In other words, I think you could see practically everything you see on the screen if you have that resolution.
@TrueMarble64 I would like to make my videos in 4:3 but I like using the entire screen, so I usually try and keep my graphics/camera placement in the middle. Even then it sometimes displays weird, so we’re just going to have to stay at the mercy of the industry 😢
Great production quality. And you mustve touched some trendinyg topics because i got this reccomended. Surprised you dont have more subscribers, but i'm sure you'll grow big soon. Keep at it fren
I use a iPad mini 5 and it’s the perfect iPad . The 4:3 is a great aspect ratio and the physical home button is great and it’s size means I can put it on my desk next to my computer without taking up space . my only complaint is that it’s old and the newer iPad minis don’t fit my requirements & because of the case I use the charging port is on the right & because I’m a left hander so I have my iPad on the left which makes charging complicated If it wasn’t 4:3 my experience would be worse it’s to bad iMovie is 16:9 and basically no one makes 4:3
@@avus-kw2f213 there are a series of problems with the newer iPads, in fact last December I bought a brand new in box iPad mini 5 because I’ve found there are a large number of advantages (physical home key, headphone jack, no camera bump, 4:3 proper aspect ratio to name a few) to the older set of products
This is a great video! I watched this on my secondary monitor on my PC, which is 4:3 and It was quite a nice viewing experience. I think 16:9 just wastes a lot of space in normal content you watch online, a lot of websites are easier to navigate in 16:9 though since you have more space for buttons and whatnot, but if the websites were optimized and scaled well that wouldn't be a problem. 16:9 is still great for things like movies though, so that's why I have both. I think bringing 4:3 back as a standard wouldn't make much sense, but it's cool to think about.
I just happened to be testing my steam deck hooked up to some adapters and a retrotink5x to play on an old CRT screen and this video started autoplaying, and I was tripped out when this video was in 4:3...
I think 1:1 is the perfect aspect ratio balance. Since it can be cropped to fit both landscape and portrait videos, as long as it's filmed in wide lens.
4:3 looks pretty good on UA-cam (at least on desktop), I don't tend to watch videos in widescreen so there is a decent amount of infomation from the video itself and the title, description etc. below - my beef is with ultrawide on UA-cam
Great video to watch in my brand "new" second hand CRT monitor I just bought yesterday! Thanks! I would love to see a lot more content in this aspect ratio.. CRTs looks so much better than any 16:9 LCD or LED monitor
Glad you enjoyed, I would love to make more 4:3 content but it just kills my chance in the youtube algorithm, so it’ll probably have to stay limited for now🥲
4:3 looks amazing when it's an expanded 16:9 image. It's what IMAX sorta does. That negative space sucks you into the world. 4:3 feels cramped when you remove the negative space like a "professional".
Technical challenges is the only reason there's so much 4:3 content (if videos started being produced in the context of today's technological progress (instead of the late 19th century/early 20th century), it's easy to imagine that not much of it would've been produced), even though it has great artistic & practical value. 4:3's so out-of-fashion that, out of the documentaries that use a lot of old archival footage (which's 100% 4:3, in case you didn't know), much more of them are in the 2.39 ratio than 4:3 itself. So you end up with 1 person talking to the camera with a ton of dead space on each side! Often the archival footage's (usually 480i, don't forget) cropped to 2.39, too, which's insane, since 99% of people are watching it on a less wide display (at least for documentaries that don't get theatrical releases)!
You're right. 4:3 is more comfortable for social media in many ways. In my opinion, 16:9 is better for gaming and movies. Purpose of 18:9 still remains a mystery for me.
I agree with you on the subject of 4:3 aspect ratio. I would also recommend 16;10 aspect ratio (not for videography, but for general user experience). In my experience, 16;10 is very comfortable for programming and many other productivity related work. Edit: writing ratio in xx:yy made it highlight for youtube playback.
I reused my old 4:3 screen as a work screen, for texts, table creation, photo editing, drawing and so on, to separate physical work and leisure space at my desk. I sit down at my desk differently to separate these areas better. Unfortunately, I can't use it at the moment because it doesn't work with my new graphics card. It doesn't work even with three different adapters. I tested it on an older PC to see if it hadn't just broken and it worked there.
I really like 4:3 (AKA 1.33:1) but my favorite aspect ratio is 1.19:1, because i think it looks cool. My favorite films that use this format are All quiet on the western front (1930), Dracula (1931), and City lights (1931).
4:3 is the king of all ratios tbh… but wow almost unbelievable the iPad goes completely unmentioned! Every single iPad model (until 2018) uses this aspect ratio and even still today the best one (the 12.9-inch size) retains the original format since 2010! Only the “new” mini and medium size iPads are awkward non-4:3s. This video for example works super on mobile, as 4:3 fills more of the screen in vertical orientation, and also looks great with picture-in-picture mode with the bonus of covering up less buttons and information on the screen.
@@lukewilsontv ~600 million user base! People buy multiple iPads though, and hand down older models since they last like 5-8 years in usefulness (when cared for) it’s crazy. Best Apple device value ever per dollar for cpu power. The company has dragged on giving the OS proper attention for years though, and the problem continues to persist.
@@brentdennison176 I use it as a teleprompter for my videos, it has mouse support so I can just scroll through my scripts, and it’s nice and compact for instances where I don’t have my laptop or pc. I don’t use it for much beyond that, but as I get more into animation that’ll probably change
4:3 is also the perfect aspect ratio because that's mostly how we view the world, our eyes see in 4:3 and hence why most cameras take pictures that way. The other option is 16;10 which is very pleasing and is close to the golden ratio, 16:9 just feels useless.
@@AaronOwenSmithnope, we see in a focused circle close to 4:3. if you don't you have convergence inneficieny causing you too see double and get serious headaches/ migraines.
@@alexandruciordas4941 no!... you might, but i have peripheral vision and see almost 90 degrees ether side of me but out of focus, much like a wide angle lens for which it was invented to simulate reality, when you stand on top of a mountain, you don't see a square in front you see almost a whole semi circle
just to prove my point, can you see information on the vertical axis the same as the horizontal? of course not, you have to tilt your head or move your eyes up or down, but you can see who is standing next you without moving your eyes or head.. why? because you see in wide angle...
It's an interesting debate, for sure. Disregarding platform and mobile/desktop translation, I think 16:9 IS a better aspect ratio for general viewing, considering that it's _right_ before the threshold of it being too wide to take in the screen as a whole when you're close to it. However, I do agree that 16:9 is a VERY bad aspect ratio for phones, even for general use. It being vertical all the time just means you have to cram a ton of stuff into the screenspace to make it functional, and it can get pretty cluttered at times. Before I got used to it, I was a little annoyed that most apps weren't able to be used in landscape mode :P
You have a point, but 4:3 would leave empty space on both 16:9 and 9:16 displays. And imagine using an on-screen keyboard on 4:3 display. It's possible but way inferior. So that's not happening either.
I watched this on a 4:3 tv from 1990 I found on the side of the road, But it only has an RF input, so I had to shove a composite signal out of my 2008 also 4:3 laptop running windows xp into a vcr, that then converted it to RF for the damn tv to read... It didnt look too bad for a 33 year old base model (probably) tv someone threw out. cant read this comment on it though.. lol. Oh the things I do for my own amusement...
I really hated it to see when everything was switched to widescreen 16:10 around the year 2007 and later even to 16:9. I found it so incredibly stupid, it made no sense whatsoever for productive work as a student (unless, perhaps, for 30 inch monitor screens, which nobody had back then. But for those typical 19 inch monitors or those 13 to 17 inch laptop screens it was so contraproductive). It really made sense only for films which happen to be in widescreen. I could have called myself lucky when I switched from a 16:9 13.3" laptop to an older 16:10 T410 a couple of years ago and which I could somewhat get used to (unlike to the 13.3" 16:9). Recently I tried out a 13" 3:2 and liked it much better. I think if it was approx 15 inch it would be very useful. For anything smaller I'd go with 4:3, especially since split screen is not a valid option with those). Ipads happen to be very good for note taking and for sheet music. That's thanks to their 3:4 aspect ratio.
I’m tempted to start doing all of my videos in 4:3 but I think I’ll wait to see how the youtube landscape changes in the future. I’ll just do what they did in the 2000s and do 16:9 but keep everything (myself, graphics, text) within the 4:3 boundaries, that way it’ll fill up the screen but you can still clip it for tiktok and stuff the same way you can with 4:3, if that makes sense
4:3 is great and may solve a lot of problems with our particular trends in content, but it's far from perfect. To me, there are actually a few perfect ratios. *1:1* (impractical for anything other than somewhat specialty desktop screens, or when filming with anamorphic lenses) *4:5* (Kinda same as above, but when split it half it forms two 16:10 sections, or you can do 60/40 for a 4:3 and 2:1 split, etc.) *1.414:1* (This is roughly the ratio of the A-shaped paper standard. Cutting it in half gives you two pieces that are the exact same shape as before. Can be simplifed to 14:10 then 7:5) *3:2* (Picture standard/sensor standard for most cameras) *16:10* (As close to the golden ratio as is reasonable, also a legacy widescreen shape. Ideal in more ways than one due to the x1200 and x1600 resolution series, IMO. Can be simplified to 8:5) *2:1* (Just a really nice balance of scope without being overly wide. Directly in between the gold and silver ratios) *2.4:1* aka Cinemascope aka "Ultrawide" (The widest reasonable shape, also as close to the silver ratio as is reasonable) To me, 4:3 is definitely useful, but in landscape it's too square, IMO. Beautifully perfect in portrait mode, though, whereas 3:2 (somewhat) and especially 16:10 and beyond get WAY too tall, WAY too fast. And of course, there's the compatibility/"new middle ground" aspect you spoke of in this video.
Your third one (1.414:1) is approximately the square root of 2, which is an irrational number. The A series paper sizes use the square root of 2 as the aspect ratio.
it provides an experience that better represents the original creator’s vision. I recently watched Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and the special effects look way better because the original quality hides how bad it looks😂
Most UA-cam video would be just fine in 4:3. With things like video games and movies seeing a wider area can improve the experience. But if something like Scott the Woz or Linus Tech Tips was in 4:3 you wouldn't really be missing much.
Yeah that’s my problem, I’d love to do more videos in 4:3, but I think my video essays do better in hd. I’ve always wanted to do a “show” though, whether it’s a podcast or just another series… that’s somewhere I’d do it
Coming form a causal Im so confused. 4:3 un cropped i think looks terrible. This video for example doesnt scale well for full screen on iPhone, black boarders on each side. I get your point of you cant directly port the same video too tiktok.. but if you shoot in 4:3 from the beginning.. you can crop to fit UA-cam and or TikTok perfectly. I feel like the whole point of 4;3 is to crop, if not your left with trash black
There's a good reason why I'm refusing to replace my old 16:10 1200p monitor with a new 16:9 one. I don't have to fullscreen my window to view 16:9 content in any application if I don't want to and 4:3 content looks way more acceptable on it too. Oh btw 21:9 aspect ratio is absolute garbage.
I’ve been debating a new, bigger monitor for my pc after using macs in all my classes. I love having a big ass whiteboard for everything I’m doing vs two tv screens, you get me?
i like 4:3 monitors so i appreciate more stuff in 4:3 so i can use them. My CRT monitor is amazing, so i watch tv or music videos on it a lot. Ateez bouncy and Akmu's love lee are both in 4:3 (ish) and those came out this year, also 70mm imax Oppenheimer was in a square ish aspect ratio
The whole copium around 16:9 is the late 2000's on why it'd be "superior" was always shallow - to justify buying into screen manufacturers marketing rhetoric and buying into screenporn (HD push and all its later iterations). I am talking massive hyperbole here, I also like crisp displays, but aspect ratio has little to do with it but was a massive part of it. A while back, I saw a video on 4:3 movies that are done so by artistical choice (might've been by CinemaStix) and that it had kind of a renaissance in the art scene. A lot of TV also would benefit from a more focused picture (sitcoms and comedy in general).
The problem is phones aren't 16:9 anymore. The standard aspect ratio on smartphones is 20:9 so using a 4:3 aspect ratio doesn't really help things. You know what? I take it back. With 20:9 a 4:3 image looks really good IF, simultaneously, you are scrolling thru chat. It's almost perfect really in that use case.
I hate how there really is no clear standard with phones anymore. Mine is 19.5:9, some are 18:9, 20:9. It's just so dumb. We never should've gotten rid of the physical home button.
@@zzyy1934 This reminds me of the time when people were upset that they got rid of physical keyboards on phones. Someone was listening and released a phone with a physical keyboard again. Nobody bought it, company went bankrupt. People also complained when they got rid of the headphone jack. Most people don't realize you can get much better sounding audio from the USB-C port. (That's because most people went Bluetooth.)
1.6 is 8:5 or "16:10". The golden ratio is (exactly) equal to (1+√(5))/2. Because the square root of 5 is irrational, the golden ratio is, too, irrational as well.
@@hmwndpI would also unapologetically tell you that Pi is equal to 3. You dont have to overcomplicate things while communicating, precision is only necessary while building models. 🤓and if you round up the irrational golden ratio you get to 1.6. So its not even wrong, its just processed one step further
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64:45 or 1.422... - very close to root 2 and gives 720x1024, 1080x1536 etc
"4:3 is the Perfect Aspect Ratio!!"
the widescreen monitor in the background:
I had a third 4:3 dell monitor but it was too much on my graphics card
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@@lukewilsontv then why not get rid of one of your 16:9 displays. I use a Sony Multiscan G500 I run it at 1920x1440 at 80Hz. 2k Res and most games today still support 4:3 aspect raatio. If they dont I can deal with it or stretch it manually on my monitor or via NVIDIA fullscreen option. This is my primary display and I love it. If you live near Oregon I've got a NEC monitor that is 22 inches and is basically identical spec wise.
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Too bad 4:3 displays aren’t made anymore and the ones that do exist are expensive. I wish 4:3 displays are still made today as it would be great for my retro consoles and retro pc gaming
I've used 3:4 aspect ratio for Shorts, which does a decent fill of the ~9:16 phone screen while showing more of the 16:9 source material and providing a "bigger" video when viewed on a TV. Definitely some trade-offs, but I like it.
I think my biggest issue is that each platform kind of specializes in specific content… instagram has a lot of memes and edits, tiktok has a lot of personal interaction, youtube is a lot of dense information, etc. so I have a hard time translating content between platforms while also catering to the strengths and cultures of each - which opens the door to repurposing content instead of reposting, and other possible ways of adapting to the current online media scape
Yeah, the differences between platforms is a tricky thing to juggle. Short form algorithms seem even trickier than more traditional browse/recommended/search. I am in a UA-cam partnered creator Discord where I see lots of people discussing short form videos and even seeing all that data, I'm not sure what truly makes the difference between a successful video and viral video.
@CarsSimplified I think going viral is the one thing you can’t control, but being confident, well spoken, just generally know what you’re doing and look like you know what you’re doing, and obviously provide some kind of value or novelty with your content, then when something DOES go viral, you have a good foundation to attach that to, and content that’s been waiting around for the new people to see. It’s easier said than done but I understand that now as it applies to my online content and presence at least
it's super realistic to see it come back honestly. the platform thing you mentioned but also the fact that i actually found this video organically cause i decided that i wanted to do 4:3, more cause my channel is meant to have a kind of running gag/style of looking and feeling like cable television and i found it sooo hard and couldn't realize why until i realized it was the aspect ratio
Yeah I do think that 4:3 is a functional standard in an age of switching between wide and tall displays, and also I too feel nostalgic with 4:3, it gives you a more centered focus and an almost balanced vertical and horizontal space and it's stretching of view isn't as noticable with most retro games.
4:3 is great for city videos. It really captures the tallness of the city
This only has 70 views? This is a really good video, gonna subscribe
On the 4:3 aspect ratio stuff, being a retro tech enthusiast, you're so right. We should bring it back
While I wasn't really living to use a lot of 4:3 stuff, I seriously don't understand why it isn't used. For me, it's odd that things like movies would *intentionally* not use the entire screen.
Has more to do with the different aspect ratio of a screen on a mid 20th century tv vs screen at a cinema.
TV had been 4:3 ratio and black & white, while film/cinema/movies were 16:9 widescreen and Technicolor.
Watching a 16:9 ratio film on TV meant either that "letterbox" look or cropped to 4:3 so watching a movie on TV meant cropping out the left and right edge of the films image to more fully fill the screen with image as opposed to black space and smaller image.
TV has always been looked down upon as a lesser form of art than film/movies so as modern technology progresses from 20th to 21st century the 16:9 ratio was preferred for viewing movies.
In my opinion, 4:3 is only popular because it has that retro feel to it, and more importantly because it works better in popular social media UX designs.
TLDR old movies were filmed in widescreen TV in 4:3 so movies on TV lost original framing by director.
I recently switched to this ratio, it gives me more retro feel and feels comfortable for browsing and productivity.
That is one thing that I don't see a lot of other guys talking about, I switched to a single 5:4 Sony display for the last 6 months and found it really improves focus and productivity. There is just less going on, the document I am writing or the article I am reading takes the sole focus. Plus the real world is always available via periphery, books and papers on my desk are part of my view again instead of being pushed aside by excessively wide and perspective dominating screens. 16:9 is for media consumption, 4:3/5:4 is for people who do things.
it looks so weird watching in 4:3 on my ipad because im used to my videos just getting cropped on the top and bottom but this
i never saw 4:3 aspect ratio on an ipad
and it fits perfectly,
Watch some old TV.
I had the same epiphany about 4:3 while watching UA-cam shorts the other day so its surreal to see this video appear. Glad to see others are in agreement.
Very cool, i just typed 4:3 in the search hoping to get some 4:3 content after rescuing a monitor from the dump and finally someone who gets it! well others do to but not the mainstream. And I cant blame them, no one has 4:3 monitors so no one makes content for it, but this makes a good case for it. Id just get a 4:3, its so nice to have the extra vertical space, things look more natural. UA-cam videos would look a lot better with the focuced view in lots of cases, you start to notice the unused space left to right while top and bottom is begging for more. What id like to see, is wide screen, but with more on top! the best of both worlds.
I watched this on a 4:3 CRT Monitor from 2006. Cheers.
Seeing that this vid was in 4:3 filled me with nostalgia somehow
Watching on my Z fold and nodding my head in agreement.
I just typed the same thing
Finally a video that makes my CRT happy
Usually, I make most of my videos in the 4:3 lens on purpose because I want it to be looking great on my CRT Screen setup. I may had some videos put vertically, but that was getting a #SHORTS_SUCKS label on it. In other words, I think you could see practically everything you see on the screen if you have that resolution.
just bought a mini crt today🤔
cool.
@TrueMarble64 I would like to make my videos in 4:3 but I like using the entire screen, so I usually try and keep my graphics/camera placement in the middle. Even then it sometimes displays weird, so we’re just going to have to stay at the mercy of the industry 😢
well. maybe you need more space on the screen, it's fine.
What on earth, this deserves i many more views. Awesome content!
Great production quality. And you mustve touched some trendinyg topics because i got this reccomended. Surprised you dont have more subscribers, but i'm sure you'll grow big soon. Keep at it fren
I use a iPad mini 5 and it’s the perfect iPad . The 4:3 is a great aspect ratio and the physical home button is great and it’s size means I can put it on my desk next to my computer without taking up space .
my only complaint is that it’s old and the newer iPad minis don’t fit my requirements & because of the case I use the charging port is on the right & because I’m a left hander so I have my iPad on the left which makes charging complicated
If it wasn’t 4:3 my experience would be worse it’s to bad iMovie is 16:9 and basically no one makes 4:3
The newer iPads (non-12.9 inch) ditched the 4:3 format of the 2010 original and I’m definitely not as happy with vintage content full screen.
@@brentdennison176 What’s next they going to ditch the home button 😂
@@avus-kw2f213 there are a series of problems with the newer iPads, in fact last December I bought a brand new in box iPad mini 5 because I’ve found there are a large number of advantages (physical home key, headphone jack, no camera bump, 4:3 proper aspect ratio to name a few) to the older set of products
This is a great video! I watched this on my secondary monitor on my PC, which is 4:3 and It was quite a nice viewing experience. I think 16:9 just wastes a lot of space in normal content you watch online, a lot of websites are easier to navigate in 16:9 though since you have more space for buttons and whatnot, but if the websites were optimized and scaled well that wouldn't be a problem. 16:9 is still great for things like movies though, so that's why I have both. I think bringing 4:3 back as a standard wouldn't make much sense, but it's cool to think about.
I just happened to be testing my steam deck hooked up to some adapters and a retrotink5x to play on an old CRT screen and this video started autoplaying, and I was tripped out when this video was in 4:3...
Not on an iPhone, actually on an Android Tablet here, but this definitely looks great when playing in picture-in-picture mode!
In my opinion I used to love the leterboxxed version of shows since it had a home like feeling to it
I think 1:1 is the perfect aspect ratio balance. Since it can be cropped to fit both landscape and portrait videos, as long as it's filmed in wide lens.
4:3 looks pretty good on UA-cam (at least on desktop), I don't tend to watch videos in widescreen so there is a decent amount of infomation from the video itself and the title, description etc. below - my beef is with ultrawide on UA-cam
Great video to watch in my brand "new" second hand CRT monitor I just bought yesterday! Thanks! I would love to see a lot more content in this aspect ratio.. CRTs looks so much better than any 16:9 LCD or LED monitor
Glad you enjoyed, I would love to make more 4:3 content but it just kills my chance in the youtube algorithm, so it’ll probably have to stay limited for now🥲
Don't worry! Thanks for doing this!!
4:3 looks amazing when it's an expanded 16:9 image. It's what IMAX sorta does. That negative space sucks you into the world. 4:3 feels cramped when you remove the negative space like a "professional".
Finally i don't feel pressured to buy a new monitor
the fact this video id filmed in 5:4 is amazing
4:3 aspect ratio is perfect for the z fold 5 inner screen
(Square root of 2) : 1 checking in here.
If a line cut through the middle of the screen, the remaining two halves are the same ratio.
Feels so weird watching a modern yt video in 4:3. It feels like it’s an old video from the 80s or so but at the same time it doesn’t.
Technical challenges is the only reason there's so much 4:3 content (if videos started being produced in the context of today's technological progress (instead of the late 19th century/early 20th century), it's easy to imagine that not much of it would've been produced), even though it has great artistic & practical value.
4:3's so out-of-fashion that, out of the documentaries that use a lot of old archival footage (which's 100% 4:3, in case you didn't know), much more of them are in the 2.39 ratio than 4:3 itself. So you end up with 1 person talking to the camera with a ton of dead space on each side! Often the archival footage's (usually 480i, don't forget) cropped to 2.39, too, which's insane, since 99% of people are watching it on a less wide display (at least for documentaries that don't get theatrical releases)!
You're right. 4:3 is more comfortable for social media in many ways. In my opinion, 16:9 is better for gaming and movies. Purpose of 18:9 still remains a mystery for me.
I agree with you on the subject of 4:3 aspect ratio.
I would also recommend 16;10 aspect ratio (not for videography, but for general user experience).
In my experience, 16;10 is very comfortable for programming and many other productivity related work.
Edit: writing ratio in xx:yy made it highlight for youtube playback.
I really like 4:3
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My take
16:9 looks great, 9:16 looks awful
4:3 looks awful, 3:4 looks great
I just really like when things are wider instead of taller
Short version: Portrait format is worse than CSS
A novel in 4:3 from 2001 will be appreciated in good quality? 🤔
cool video :) i like the editing style a lot
4:3 is what I use in Elementius
I'm using 16:9 monitors just fine, BUT
4:3 aspect ratio does look like athletes run faster horizontally, which is good for a lot of sports
I reused my old 4:3 screen as a work screen, for texts, table creation, photo editing, drawing and so on,
to separate physical work and leisure space at my desk.
I sit down at my desk differently to separate these areas better.
Unfortunately, I can't use it at the moment because it doesn't work with my new graphics card.
It doesn't work even with three different adapters. I tested it on an older PC to see if it hadn't just broken and it worked there.
I really like 4:3 (AKA 1.33:1) but my favorite aspect ratio is 1.19:1, because i think it looks cool. My favorite films that use this format are All quiet on the western front (1930), Dracula (1931), and City lights (1931).
4:3 is the king of all ratios tbh… but wow almost unbelievable the iPad goes completely unmentioned! Every single iPad model (until 2018) uses this aspect ratio and even still today the best one (the 12.9-inch size) retains the original format since 2010! Only the “new” mini and medium size iPads are awkward non-4:3s. This video for example works super on mobile, as 4:3 fills more of the screen in vertical orientation, and also looks great with picture-in-picture mode with the bonus of covering up less buttons and information on the screen.
I may have been an iPod kid but I wasn’t an iPad kid, it wasn’t until this school year that I learned how prevalent they are
@@lukewilsontv ~600 million user base! People buy multiple iPads though, and hand down older models since they last like 5-8 years in usefulness (when cared for) it’s crazy. Best Apple device value ever per dollar for cpu power. The company has dragged on giving the OS proper attention for years though, and the problem continues to persist.
@@brentdennison176 I use it as a teleprompter for my videos, it has mouse support so I can just scroll through my scripts, and it’s nice and compact for instances where I don’t have my laptop or pc. I don’t use it for much beyond that, but as I get more into animation that’ll probably change
4:3 is also the perfect aspect ratio because that's mostly how we view the world, our eyes see in 4:3 and hence why most cameras take pictures that way.
The other option is 16;10 which is very pleasing and is close to the golden ratio, 16:9 just feels useless.
no we see see in wide screen as we have two eyes side by side making a sort of 1.85:1
@@AaronOwenSmithnope, we see in a focused circle close to 4:3. if you don't you have convergence inneficieny causing you too see double and get serious headaches/ migraines.
@@alexandruciordas4941 no!... you might, but i have peripheral vision and see almost 90 degrees ether side of me but out of focus, much like a wide angle lens for which it was invented to simulate reality, when you stand on top of a mountain, you don't see a square in front you see almost a whole semi circle
just to prove my point, can you see information on the vertical axis the same as the horizontal? of course not, you have to tilt your head or move your eyes up or down, but you can see who is standing next you without moving your eyes or head.. why? because you see in wide angle...
@@AaronOwenSmith yeah that's peripheral vision, that's why 16-9 aspect ratio works too, but for most in focus content 4:3 is the best.
It's an interesting debate, for sure. Disregarding platform and mobile/desktop translation, I think 16:9 IS a better aspect ratio for general viewing, considering that it's _right_ before the threshold of it being too wide to take in the screen as a whole when you're close to it. However, I do agree that 16:9 is a VERY bad aspect ratio for phones, even for general use. It being vertical all the time just means you have to cram a ton of stuff into the screenspace to make it functional, and it can get pretty cluttered at times. Before I got used to it, I was a little annoyed that most apps weren't able to be used in landscape mode :P
Move three steps back when filming
This will go viral
Great video, good job
Its giving "i cant let go of the past"
I appreciate that this video was uploaded in 4:3
You have a point, but 4:3 would leave empty space on both 16:9 and 9:16 displays.
And imagine using an on-screen keyboard on 4:3 display. It's possible but way inferior. So that's not happening either.
Kind of a selfish reason as not many ppl have foldable phones, but 4:3 is the best ratio for a Samsung zflip
It is very selfish, join the 4:3 cult😈
I watched this on a 4:3 tv from 1990 I found on the side of the road, But it only has an RF input, so I had to shove a composite signal out of my 2008 also 4:3 laptop running windows xp into a vcr, that then converted it to RF for the damn tv to read... It didnt look too bad for a 33 year old base model (probably) tv someone threw out. cant read this comment on it though.. lol. Oh the things I do for my own amusement...
YES 4:3 IS THE FUTURE FUCK 16:9 WE LOVE 4:3 FUCK YEAH
Chill!
my take for aspect ratio is to crop it to a 1.6 format (8:5,5:3 or 1.63:1) depending on the video
Now i only search for camera that can record open gate.
Which only leave me with either lumix or blackmagic since fuji open gate suck
I really hated it to see when everything was switched to widescreen 16:10 around the year 2007 and later even to 16:9. I found it so incredibly stupid, it made no sense whatsoever for productive work as a student (unless, perhaps, for 30 inch monitor screens, which nobody had back then. But for those typical 19 inch monitors or those 13 to 17 inch laptop screens it was so contraproductive). It really made sense only for films which happen to be in widescreen. I could have called myself lucky when I switched from a 16:9 13.3" laptop to an older 16:10 T410 a couple of years ago and which I could somewhat get used to (unlike to the 13.3" 16:9). Recently I tried out a 13" 3:2 and liked it much better. I think if it was approx 15 inch it would be very useful. For anything smaller I'd go with 4:3, especially since split screen is not a valid option with those). Ipads happen to be very good for note taking and for sheet music. That's thanks to their 3:4 aspect ratio.
My tablet is 4:3 and oh how I love finding 4:3 videos who fit perfectly in fullscreen
This is really underrated. I think I'll try make a video in 4:3 to see how it looks.
I’m tempted to start doing all of my videos in 4:3 but I think I’ll wait to see how the youtube landscape changes in the future. I’ll just do what they did in the 2000s and do 16:9 but keep everything (myself, graphics, text) within the 4:3 boundaries, that way it’ll fill up the screen but you can still clip it for tiktok and stuff the same way you can with 4:3, if that makes sense
@@lukewilsontv shoot to protect is cool but limiting IMO because you kinda can't get the most out of either.
4:3 is great and may solve a lot of problems with our particular trends in content, but it's far from perfect. To me, there are actually a few perfect ratios.
*1:1* (impractical for anything other than somewhat specialty desktop screens, or when filming with anamorphic lenses)
*4:5* (Kinda same as above, but when split it half it forms two 16:10 sections, or you can do 60/40 for a 4:3 and 2:1 split, etc.)
*1.414:1* (This is roughly the ratio of the A-shaped paper standard. Cutting it in half gives you two pieces that are the exact same shape as before. Can be simplifed to 14:10 then 7:5)
*3:2* (Picture standard/sensor standard for most cameras)
*16:10* (As close to the golden ratio as is reasonable, also a legacy widescreen shape. Ideal in more ways than one due to the x1200 and x1600 resolution series, IMO. Can be simplified to 8:5)
*2:1* (Just a really nice balance of scope without being overly wide. Directly in between the gold and silver ratios)
*2.4:1* aka Cinemascope aka "Ultrawide" (The widest reasonable shape, also as close to the silver ratio as is reasonable)
To me, 4:3 is definitely useful, but in landscape it's too square, IMO. Beautifully perfect in portrait mode, though, whereas 3:2 (somewhat) and especially 16:10 and beyond get WAY too tall, WAY too fast. And of course, there's the compatibility/"new middle ground" aspect you spoke of in this video.
Your third one (1.414:1) is approximately the square root of 2, which is an irrational number. The A series paper sizes use the square root of 2 as the aspect ratio.
I'd say 5:3 would probably be perfect because I think that the horizontal space is really needed.
Too close to 16:9 that you wouldn't even tell the difference.
@@gregamania13275:3 is closer to 8:5 ("16:10") than 16:9.
Legit thought you had 470k not 470
Gonna start using 4:3 more often
For me a like 4:3 because i played some of the fnaf games with the 4:3 aspect mode and i liked the boxed in ratio with the black bars on the sides
Una novela en 4:3 del año 2001 se apreciará en buena calidad? 🤔
it provides an experience that better represents the original creator’s vision. I recently watched Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and the special effects look way better because the original quality hides how bad it looks😂
@@lukewilsontv En un TV 42’ pulgadas ver una novela de pantalla 4:3 se va a ver bien la calidad?
it'll be objectively bad, meaning it won't be HD, but it'll capture the experience of watching the show or film in the year 2001@@juanfigueroa4305
Most UA-cam video would be just fine in 4:3. With things like video games and movies seeing a wider area can improve the experience. But if something like Scott the Woz or Linus Tech Tips was in 4:3 you wouldn't really be missing much.
Yeah that’s my problem, I’d love to do more videos in 4:3, but I think my video essays do better in hd. I’ve always wanted to do a “show” though, whether it’s a podcast or just another series… that’s somewhere I’d do it
microsoft clipchamp didnt have 4:3 support to recently.
watched this video on a 4:3 crt tv from the 90's :)
im here before this video blows up, currently 300 views...
It does look good minimized on my Samsung phone.
What's so wrong in watching on your phone in landscape mode?
i guess im like one of the only people to be having a letterboxed resolution as my resolution lol
Coming form a causal Im so confused. 4:3 un cropped i think looks terrible. This video for example doesnt scale well for full screen on iPhone, black boarders on each side. I get your point of you cant directly port the same video too tiktok.. but if you shoot in 4:3 from the beginning.. you can crop to fit UA-cam and or TikTok perfectly. I feel like the whole point of 4;3 is to crop, if not your left with trash black
Even most consumer LCD and DLP projectors still use 4:3 aspect ratio until now LMAO
There's a good reason why I'm refusing to replace my old 16:10 1200p monitor with a new 16:9 one. I don't have to fullscreen my window to view 16:9 content in any application if I don't want to and 4:3 content looks way more acceptable on it too. Oh btw 21:9 aspect ratio is absolute garbage.
I’ve been debating a new, bigger monitor for my pc after using macs in all my classes. I love having a big ass whiteboard for everything I’m doing vs two tv screens, you get me?
Isn't "21:9" really 64:27, which is the cube of 4:3?
i like 4:3 monitors so i appreciate more stuff in 4:3 so i can use them. My CRT monitor is amazing, so i watch tv or music videos on it a lot. Ateez bouncy and Akmu's love lee are both in 4:3 (ish) and those came out this year, also 70mm imax Oppenheimer was in a square ish aspect ratio
Oppenheimer on crt would go so hard, might have to try it
@@lukewilsontv let me know how to find a digital version of that 70mm imax print and i'll do it too 😂
@zuffin1864 sounds like a job for 123movies .com😂
all of my videos in 4:3!!! i agree that 4:3 looks alot better and it's simply just nostalgic
Your reasons makes me doubt. Is it legitimate, or is it nostalgia pandering?
@@JSSMVCJR2.1 it's legitimate, why would i be nostalgia pandering lmao
@@NesDoinThingsThe world we're in, or Hell rather...
i like to watch 4:3 on my 5:4 monitor
how to convert new movies to 4:3 aspect ratio without losing any content and not distorted?
Ai my friend. It’s not far off, it’s already being used in tvs and graphics engines to upres to infinite pixel density
I like 4:3 aspect ratio 👍
I prefer 16:9 but with 4:3 safe area
hell yeah it is
The whole copium around 16:9 is the late 2000's on why it'd be "superior" was always shallow - to justify buying into screen manufacturers marketing rhetoric and buying into screenporn (HD push and all its later iterations). I am talking massive hyperbole here, I also like crisp displays, but aspect ratio has little to do with it but was a massive part of it.
A while back, I saw a video on 4:3 movies that are done so by artistical choice (might've been by CinemaStix) and that it had kind of a renaissance in the art scene. A lot of TV also would benefit from a more focused picture (sitcoms and comedy in general).
lil bro is unironically talking about how "BIG SCREEN" is in their walls spying on him lmao
@@SuperM789The commenter must be at least ~2 to 3 times older than you, as indicated by your language.
1920x1440p for shooters
Calling you crazy!
Eu uso um emulador de Android no próprio Android e lá eu escolho a resolução além dos hertz/fps
16:10 My Beloved
What is the music in the video at 4:00
Dyna blade overworld theme, Kirby superstar ultra ost
how has 4:3 been left to die people wont stop filming in 4:3
The problem is phones aren't 16:9 anymore. The standard aspect ratio on smartphones is 20:9 so using a 4:3 aspect ratio doesn't really help things.
You know what? I take it back. With 20:9 a 4:3 image looks really good IF, simultaneously, you are scrolling thru chat. It's almost perfect really in that use case.
I hate how there really is no clear standard with phones anymore. Mine is 19.5:9, some are 18:9, 20:9. It's just so dumb.
We never should've gotten rid of the physical home button.
@@zzyy1934 This reminds me of the time when people were upset that they got rid of physical keyboards on phones.
Someone was listening and released a phone with a physical keyboard again. Nobody bought it, company went bankrupt.
People also complained when they got rid of the headphone jack.
Most people don't realize you can get much better sounding audio from the USB-C port. (That's because most people went Bluetooth.)
Thanks for the like. Here’s a like back 👍
Ayo what
so why do you upload in 16:9
because algorithm ;~;
havent watched yet, but: 4:3=1.33; the golden ratio is 1.6, my 16:10 laptop screen is so much better to lock at than 4:3 imo
1.6 is 8:5 or "16:10". The golden ratio is (exactly) equal to (1+√(5))/2. Because the square root of 5 is irrational, the golden ratio is, too, irrational as well.
@@hmwndp yup, but does that change anything?
I’m going to do a big video about the golden ratio very soon
@@hagen.youtube In your comment you wrote the golden ratio is 1.6; my previous reply debunks that.
@@hmwndpI would also unapologetically tell you that Pi is equal to 3. You dont have to overcomplicate things while communicating, precision is only necessary while building models.
🤓and if you round up the irrational golden ratio you get to 1.6. So its not even wrong, its just processed one step further
Arigato Gyro
3:2 is the way
Only 2.3k views? I don't feel comfortable watching this. Not until you get Some more views lil bro.
>Secretly wishes the viewcount to be 4.3.
Actually 23 : 11 the best
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