I recently sold my 2020 Tacoma that was very well modified for financial reasons…Your videos really make me want to get a 1st gen Tundra. You do an excellent job in your videos! Very knowledgeable. Thank you!
If you have an old Toyota.. In no way being an advertising person.. Toyota of Des Moines, Iowa. A true source of absolute, true, Genuine Toyota OEM parts. The microfiches, Your right model, year. If its still available, they have it. Just wanted to share.
I got a set of eibach leveling struts from toytec for my 2017 tundra, they call them coilovers but there is no preload adjustment on them. They were a very good value for about $700 shipped and I installed them myself. They lifted the front about 2.5 inches and I haven't had any issues in 30k miles even with hauling a dirtbike on the front hitch setup.
Build around a budget and a logical approach to what you’ll actually be doing. Y’all stay safe, and don’t forget to clean up your mess out there. “Leave it better than you found it.” 🤙🏽
This was awesome. I appreciate that it’s much simpler than the front end IFS but if I want to economically add some increased capacity for static payload in terms of camper top and gear with a modest lift in rear end what would you suggest? 5100s with add a leaf?
I just finally sold my 99 4runner and picked up my 2001 Tundra AC, really stuck on the 265/75/16 (44 ibs) or the 235/85/16 (48 Ibs) both seem great and I plan on getting a 1000ib FWC slide in popup camper. Going to throw on the 5100s as well with a 1.5 or 2 inch lift. I want to be able to make it over mountain passes in blizzards and some mild overlanding. Which do you think I should get? Love your channel man, thanks for all the insights into this awesome truck!
I don’t think you could really go wrong with either. I’d just make sure to get a good load rating for the camper and then pick based on getting the best compound and tread pattern for your intended use. Should fit fine on the truck and not need much trimming!
Excellent sensible advice. And that Tinkerer’s tire vid is fantastic. I was a skinny tire guy before watching his vid. Did you buy your 5100’s assembled with the OME’s and if so- from who? I can’t do it myself in my living situation. Additionally- years ago I had custom leaf springs from AlCan - who should I buy from for Tacoma. Thank you sir👍
Thank you! I got mine from suspensionlifts.com Tacomas should have options from Deaver, Icon, Toytec, General Spring…. Lots of options for full packs or Add A leafs. I don’t really like my Icon AAL. Alcan should still offer leafs for the tacoma too.
Thanks for the tips as always Tyler can you do more a video on UCA whether its really necessary or not. Like I try to get answer on the GX community on my GX470 I frankly just want a mild lift but everyone there oh get the UCA its worth it lol.
Haha that doesn’t surprise me. GX owners love their gear I’m sure. You really don’t need the UCA if you keep the lift below 2” like I did. Do you know what coilovers you’re looking at?
@@208Tyler 5100 really both front and rear just a nice lift for dd and most that I’ll see is ski/snow/lake resorts. Too much gear flex is pushed around in that community.
New tundra owner here I want level it I have an O4 dc rwd Need 2 to 2.5 inches I need all new shocks anyway Would like to try to do myself Was looking at 5100s adjustable fronts But seems like maybe it’s out of my league Now thinking of rough country spacers This is a daily driver Won’t be doing off roading maybe Some trail to a beach Would really appreciate any input you guys have Thanks
I just got a brand new set of 17" pull-offs, the 2022 4Runner Trail wheels for $200 (for all 4). They are 7 spoke and in the past I've never liked 7 spoke wheels for some reason, especially because our trucks are 6 lug, but I just love the look of them and the fact that the spokes are a bit recessed into wheel. The offset I believe is +15mm. I plan to do a 2" lift with 5100s and new springs but am not sure what springs to go with. I'd also spring for the JBA UCA's but given some of your videos it sounds like I'll be ok without them. What springs would you recommend??
@@208Tyler will do, i think i remember seeing where to get a replacement for them in one of your older videos but i’ll check a few of them out, loving the truck and want to learn more about it
@@208Tyler oh okay are the aftermarket ones supposed to be used under load like with a aftermarket bumper for example brute force or something because my truck rides really stiff since I added the 5100s it rides a little stiffer than stock in my opinion
Not necessarily. Check out a website like suspensionlifts.com or firstgenoffroad. They lost lift heights and weights for common aftermarket springs if you browse their sites.
There is wisdom here. He is realistic, and correct. We suggest looking at how people who live in third-world, bad-roads scenarios equip their vehicles for daily use. They know what works, affordably. Also, stick to tire sizes that can be readily replaced if necessary while traveling, i.e., what is available in Moab, Utah, will not be available in Leadore, Idaho. I learned the hard way that Old Man Emu strut specs are inaccurate ... Be careful, and be conservative. Finally, be realistic regarding your purpose ... Are you primarily a rock crawler, four-wheeler, or wildland traveler?
Do you think a lift is required for a 235/85R16 tire? Currently running with 265/75R16 for my summer tires and 265/70R17 for winter with no issues. I’m going to have to replace my R16 tires next year. Running stock suspension.
No. Like I explain in the video, a suspension lift with a coilover won’t even really affect tire fitment if you’re taking it Offroad and flexing it out. Mine fit great and don’t rub anywhere, even offroading.
Mine was 8k, single owner, 194k miles, straight body, no rust, just an exhaust leak. It totally depends on the condition, but mine would be considered a “good deal”
No. You’re not pushing down the struts range of travel like you are with a puck (which is terrible for your upper control arms) and you’re gonna get better performance and ride quality/loading/handling with updated springs and shocks.
@208Tyler you still need to replace other things regardless of if you do pucks or a shock update. I get your angle of not doing a full rock crawler upgrade if you're going camping mostly, but you still need to do stuff like the UCA's, diff drop, brake lines, etc..Yes, you can get away with not changing everything, but long-term wear and tear will catch up in the long run. Hell, I'd even go as far as to recommend spending the money on the inverted lower ball joint kit from total chaos. If you cheap out in the beginning, you typically pay for a lot more when it comes time to fix it. Not to mention you may need more than 2" up front if your tundra has the factory stink bug look.
I’m at ~1.25” of lift in the front. New OEM lower ball joints are recommended at a minimum, regardless of lift/stock/etc when you buy one of these. I don’t have to mess with the UCA, CV’s brake lines, anything. It’s all stock. Small lift with a strut that doesn’t meaningfully change my limits of travel means I get a cheap, reliable lift that handles well. Lifting for looks is not in my playbook. A puck lift does not accomplish that criteria that I just laid out.
You’re talking too much sense, advocating for practicality rather than aesthetics.. and therefore few will listen. Appreciate the info as I’ll be doing almost exactly what you recommend!
EVERYBODY QUITE TYLER IS BACK AND HES HEARD MY PRAYERS
Hahaha I love it
Pretty sure u mean QUIET lol
I recently sold my 2020 Tacoma that was very well modified for financial reasons…Your videos really make me want to get a 1st gen Tundra. You do an excellent job in your videos! Very knowledgeable. Thank you!
Thank you! I really appreciate it, and thanks for leaving a comment.
The tundra’s been a great truck to have, it’s treated me well
dude, you are a legend. thank you for doing the lords work. if you're ever in ohio, im buying you a beer!
Haha thanks! Glad you found the video helpful!
I just purchased two, brand new, OEM Toyota Tundra lower control arms for $230 each. With bushings.
If you have an old Toyota.. In no way being an advertising person.. Toyota of Des Moines, Iowa. A true source of absolute, true, Genuine Toyota OEM parts. The microfiches, Your right model, year. If its still available, they have it. Just wanted to share.
I got a set of eibach leveling struts from toytec for my 2017 tundra, they call them coilovers but there is no preload adjustment on them. They were a very good value for about $700 shipped and I installed them myself. They lifted the front about 2.5 inches and I haven't had any issues in 30k miles even with hauling a dirtbike on the front hitch setup.
That’s awesome! Glad they’ve treated you so good!
14:39 I asked about tyres a week ago and 285/70/17 was cheaper than 265/70/17 because 33's sold more!
Build around a budget and a logical approach to what you’ll actually be doing.
Y’all stay safe, and don’t forget to clean up your mess out there.
“Leave it better than you found it.” 🤙🏽
Of course! Thanks for commenting
Bilstein 5100's . The First Step.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge man👍🙌.
Of course! Glad you enjoyed the video
Please use jack stands if you're removing a wheel and under the vehicle!
It was for 5 minutes of filming, but I appreciate the concern. I just moved and don’t have any yet.
This was awesome. I appreciate that it’s much simpler than the front end IFS but if I want to economically add some increased capacity for static payload in terms of camper top and gear with a modest lift in rear end what would you suggest? 5100s with add a leaf?
I really like your input! 👍 good job
Thank you!
Does a 265 75 fit the factory stock Tundra? I have a 2000 SR5 V6 4x4 Tundra
I currently have the 265 70's
Thanks a Bunch
I am curious as well!
I just finally sold my 99 4runner and picked up my 2001 Tundra AC, really stuck on the 265/75/16 (44 ibs) or the 235/85/16 (48 Ibs) both seem great and I plan on getting a 1000ib FWC slide in popup camper. Going to throw on the 5100s as well with a 1.5 or 2 inch lift. I want to be able to make it over mountain passes in blizzards and some mild overlanding. Which do you think I should get?
Love your channel man, thanks for all the insights into this awesome truck!
I don’t think you could really go wrong with either. I’d just make sure to get a good load rating for the camper and then pick based on getting the best compound and tread pattern for your intended use. Should fit fine on the truck and not need much trimming!
@@208Tyler Going your route with the 235/85, I was wrong about the tire weights its 47.8 vs 55.3. higher load capacity and less weight!
Awesome! I hope you enjoy them! I’ve liked mine
Excellent sensible advice.
And that Tinkerer’s tire vid is fantastic. I was a skinny tire guy before watching his vid.
Did you buy your 5100’s assembled with the OME’s and if so- from who?
I can’t do it myself in my living situation.
Additionally- years ago I had custom leaf springs from AlCan - who should I buy from for Tacoma.
Thank you sir👍
Thank you!
I got mine from suspensionlifts.com
Tacomas should have options from Deaver, Icon, Toytec, General Spring…. Lots of options for full packs or Add A leafs. I don’t really like my Icon AAL. Alcan should still offer leafs for the tacoma too.
@@208Tyler thank you
Thanks for the tips as always Tyler can you do more a video on UCA whether its really necessary or not. Like I try to get answer on the GX community on my GX470 I frankly just want a mild lift but everyone there oh get the UCA its worth it lol.
Haha that doesn’t surprise me. GX owners love their gear I’m sure.
You really don’t need the UCA if you keep the lift below 2” like I did. Do you know what coilovers you’re looking at?
@@208Tyler 5100 really both front and rear just a nice lift for dd and most that I’ll see is ski/snow/lake resorts. Too much gear flex is pushed around in that community.
Ya, I agree. Nothing wrong with some fresh 5100’s!
New tundra owner here I want level it I have an O4 dc rwd Need 2 to 2.5 inches I need all new shocks anyway
Would like to try to do myself
Was looking at 5100s adjustable fronts But seems like maybe it’s out of my league
Now thinking of rough country spacers
This is a daily driver Won’t be doing off roading maybe Some trail to a beach
Would really appreciate any input you guys have
Thanks
I just got a brand new set of 17" pull-offs, the 2022 4Runner Trail wheels for $200 (for all 4). They are 7 spoke and in the past I've never liked 7 spoke wheels for some reason, especially because our trucks are 6 lug, but I just love the look of them and the fact that the spokes are a bit recessed into wheel. The offset I believe is +15mm. I plan to do a 2" lift with 5100s and new springs but am not sure what springs to go with. I'd also spring for the JBA UCA's but given some of your videos it sounds like I'll be ok without them. What springs would you recommend??
I don’t even know what vehicle you have….
@@208Tyler 2002 Tundra AC cab 2WD. I'm about to build a flatbed for it and camper. Also putting on Firestone airbags this weekend.
i just installed some 5100s on my first gen this weekend on 285/75/16s using the oem spring, anything i should replace?
Nice! I’d make sure your lower ball joints are up to date, but otherwise, enjoy! I hope the setup treats you well.
@@208Tyler will do, i think i remember seeing where to get a replacement for them in one of your older videos but i’ll check a few of them out, loving the truck and want to learn more about it
Mcgeorge toyota has a great online parts division, I use them
When you use 5100 coil overs are you supposed to use stock springs or use the springs that come with the billstein 5100 struts??
You can use either, I prefer getting aftermarket springs.
@@208Tyler oh okay are the aftermarket ones supposed to be used under load like with a aftermarket bumper for example brute force or something because my truck rides really stiff since I added the 5100s it rides a little stiffer than stock in my opinion
Not necessarily. Check out a website like suspensionlifts.com or firstgenoffroad. They lost lift heights and weights for common aftermarket springs if you browse their sites.
There is wisdom here. He is realistic, and correct. We suggest looking at how people who live in third-world, bad-roads scenarios equip their vehicles for daily use. They know what works, affordably. Also, stick to tire sizes that can be readily replaced if necessary while traveling, i.e., what is available in Moab, Utah, will not be available in Leadore, Idaho. I learned the hard way that Old Man Emu strut specs are inaccurate ... Be careful, and be conservative. Finally, be realistic regarding your purpose ... Are you primarily a rock crawler, four-wheeler, or wildland traveler?
Do you think a lift is required for a 235/85R16 tire? Currently running with 265/75R16 for my summer tires and 265/70R17 for winter with no issues. I’m going to have to replace my R16 tires next year. Running stock suspension.
No. Like I explain in the video, a suspension lift with a coilover won’t even really affect tire fitment if you’re taking it Offroad and flexing it out.
Mine fit great and don’t rub anywhere, even offroading.
@@208Tyler thank you very much. I’ve always been interested in trying taller narrower tires
I hope you like them!
In your opinion, what would be a good price for a 1st Gen tundra ?
Mine was 8k, single owner, 194k miles, straight body, no rust, just an exhaust leak.
It totally depends on the condition, but mine would be considered a “good deal”
@@208Tyler thank you for your feedback. Really appreciated it.
If you're going to cheap out on that level, you might as well just get leveling pucks.
No
@208Tyler you're essentially doing the same thing by only getting shocks and springs.
No. You’re not pushing down the struts range of travel like you are with a puck (which is terrible for your upper control arms) and you’re gonna get better performance and ride quality/loading/handling with updated springs and shocks.
@208Tyler you still need to replace other things regardless of if you do pucks or a shock update. I get your angle of not doing a full rock crawler upgrade if you're going camping mostly, but you still need to do stuff like the UCA's, diff drop, brake lines, etc..Yes, you can get away with not changing everything, but long-term wear and tear will catch up in the long run. Hell, I'd even go as far as to recommend spending the money on the inverted lower ball joint kit from total chaos. If you cheap out in the beginning, you typically pay for a lot more when it comes time to fix it. Not to mention you may need more than 2" up front if your tundra has the factory stink bug look.
I’m at ~1.25” of lift in the front.
New OEM lower ball joints are recommended at a minimum, regardless of lift/stock/etc when you buy one of these.
I don’t have to mess with the UCA, CV’s brake lines, anything. It’s all stock. Small lift with a strut that doesn’t meaningfully change my limits of travel means I get a cheap, reliable lift that handles well.
Lifting for looks is not in my playbook.
A puck lift does not accomplish that criteria that I just laid out.
what spring are you running with your 5100?
OME 2885
@@208Tyler thanks for the reply. Even with ur bumper 2885 is good? I heard people recommending 2886 for tundra with bumpers.
They’re good, I don’t have any complaints
What tire do you run? Size?
235/85/R16
@@208Tyler ty so much!
You’re talking too much sense, advocating for practicality rather than aesthetics.. and therefore few will listen. Appreciate the info as I’ll be doing almost exactly what you recommend!
Haha, thank you!
Why ur tires so skinny😂
Better handling in snow (I live in the north) and less weight, and they’re easier to fit. Better MPG and no decrease in performance
Why are yours so wide?
I run 235/85/16 on mine, way skinner than his.
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@@andrewr05 my tires are also 235 wide….