Mistake #8: Cutting your hair with a CNC router So, this is actually a great and very informative video! Everyone having fun with my comment should at least vote a thumb up for the video, pls.
Love this book! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
I'm used to larger, corded routers ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
I have been running a machine commercially for 2 years now and still feel like I have no idea what to charge, some jobs go so easy and others a very difficult! I have learned that even though the machine is "doing all the work", learning how to use it properly and efficiently is also a huge undertaking. Thanks for the tips, probably a little late for me but hopefully others are smart enough to start here!
Im ordering my cnc in the next week. And im glad ive been a cnc machinist for almost 20 years and a lot of what you said translates from machining steel to working with wood. Good advice. Cant wait to start making stuff
Excellent work. I'm retired and ordered a 4x8 CNC kit. I know it's an ambitious decision to build since I have zero CNC experience but, I figured what better way to learn my machine. I'm hoping that it may help diagnose machine issues that may arise later. This video was very informative and well presented . Direct, to the point, and no annoying music. Keep 'em coming.
After my first year with my CNC I found myself in every mistale you mentioned. And I just had to go through it, like you said. Very helpful Video, thank you!
Nice detailed video. I've watched a lot of CNC videos, as I hope to eventually add one to my shop. This is the first one that covered these types of issues. I'd be interested in seeing your CNC machines and talk about what you like and don't like about each.
Hello!! Great Video and you nailed it in regards to accepting mistakes, and learning, then moving forward. I have been in CNC for 25+ years, and as a machinist I understand speeds and feeds, the hardest part for me is getting used to working with wood, (0.005" tolerance doesn't exist in woodworking! and thank God for Wood Filler ) I have built a hobby machine and am making signs. and such for friends and family. My hardest thing is putting a price on the fun side of it, which is the creating. Cutting is fine, but taking an photo and carving it is the fun challenge for me, and also the fun. I look online to get comparisons from others so I have been using that as a price gauge. So far I know have been charging less as I am very gratified to see peoples reaction, but as retirement is getting closer, I would like to figure out what are realistic charges I should be making. Thanks again and I will be watching your channel.
I've been a contractor in the painting industry for 40 years still doing the work only because I can't teach anyone what I've learned and tweeked sometimes I don't know how I even do it if you love what you do it's not work I love to keep learning the mind is a beautiful thing
Excellent video for beginner in wood CNC milling. I make all 7 mistakes from video when beginning hobby CNC mill woodworking. I learn it personaly at hard way.
That’s crazy, so they took away the IQ it seems and only have the Pro edition which has the Automatic tools changer, just the IQ should only be like $7,000, I personally would not start with a small desktop CNC like that with an ATC it would not save you enough time on your toolpaths. That IQ Pro is the upgraded version of mine. I don’t know why they took down the cheaper model, makes no sense. I would not of been able to afford that 15K CNC when I was starting out.
I must also agree very well done thank you…… I also have no experience, but I’ve always wanted to learn CAD and Cam So much that my kid got an opportunity for an apprenticeship where his license through the state now and has been machining for 15 years so I do have a great support system … but your video was awesome so thank you for the information
Extremely well done without too much unexplained jargon. The cost calculations alone are worth watching this vid. multiple times especially since machine use time vs machine investment, Include dedicated work space, bits, materials for learning, final product material storage for material and possibly sound reduction in the work room. Then how does a retired non machinist price his/her time?
what are your thoughts on the avid cnc line? I'm currently debating between the laguna IQ 2x4 and the avid PRO6060 5' x 5? This is my first cnc and I'm looking to grow it into a full time business but would like to spend between 10-20k.
I was a CNC tech at a university for a while and getting back into it now with a beefy 4x8 machine from Industrial CNC. If you get the chance to cover general feeds and speed with specific materials breakdown, that would be amazing! Also, Love these videos! Is there a way to help support?
Thanks for this video. I have been machining some UHMW and the bit was screaming...I thought I was pushing it too fast! Quite the opposite. Good to know!
At about 4:00 you mention use of the half inch bit. I use a half inch bit in my cnc and its a hobby machine made out of HDPE and metal rails. Not sure if my experience is the same as yours because I run a half inch bit with ease. Perhaps its the type of cuts as well
Considering this. I want to say thanks to people who design, test and list every bolts nuts so beginners can start it out. Learning curve is painful, time and money costly
Broke my bit today. What can be great video? About bits. Its life time, different materials? Low end, high end, sime special ones? Thank you for your effort
Great video and directions, I plan on getting a router over the next month. I am currently working with a co2 laser with LIGHT Burn. Do you work with lasers? I would like to see that video. SUBSCRIBED
NEVER use MDF EVER! Look at the materials it’s made from. It’s Carcinogenic and it’s made from wood dust, formaldehyde and urea resins. You are breathing the fine dust in when machining, even with a mask. I won’t allow this stuff in my home unless it’s sealed with an oil base finish.
@@darrellsaturnbigfoot Problem is that spoilboards are usually made of just this type of material. There are also other materials that are made in equally toxic ways. OBF, Particle Board, LDF, HDF, Plywood, Melamine boards, etc. You have to stick to solid wood only, to avoid the toxicity and even then the dust remains and will still pose a problem in the long run, by increasing your chances of developing COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease). You can't avoid carcinogens when you're a maker. You can just look up the most harmful carcinogens and try to avoid those, but at the end of the day, even your own body is a carcinogen, as it only takes a single cell that doesn't split correctly, in order for it to mutate into a cancer cell. Cancer isn't just caused by exterior reasons. It can easily be caused by your own body fucking up.
How do up-cut bits tear at the material, if you use a chamfer bit for the paths first? Like leaving a 1mm chamfer after all paths are complete... Is tear out at the top a problem in plywood?
Problem of Running to slow. If you have a hobby machine it is not good to slow down the rpm cause the spindle is probably to weak, Same if you increase the feed rate. For beginners with hobby machines i would recommend to buy single flutes endmills, which allows to run them with high rpm and slow speeds with the right feed rates. This helped me the most
Good advise here thanks. I am not new to CNC machining but I am new to the small machines. I recently purchased a Sainsmart 4040 pro and I am having trouble with chatter. I am cutting 1/4" Hickory and Walnut with bits from 1/8" up yo 1/4". So far I have had the best luck with a 3/16" single flute up cut tool. I am starting to think that the supplied spindle needs to be replaced with a heavier duty model. Any advise you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge im just getting into the cnc world and found this helpful, only complaint is would be nice to of seen a visual example when explaining what all the different drill bits do
I ran a shift at a cabinet shop that laid off their $10/hr panel saw operator and leased a $250,000 CNC router to cut rectangles out of sheet goods. They took their best cabinet maker off the floor to convert CAD to CAM, one line of code at a time, because they didn't want to pay for the good software. When they went out of business I took a job at a high-end shop on Maui. They cut everything on a panel saw.
Hello, I'm a newbie and at the end of your video strangely I've though exactly the opposite of what you were saying. "Speed up your RPM or slow down your feed rate..." to avoid friction as you said in the case of running the bit too slow
If your bit is spining too fast the cutting edge gets round for the next cut before the machine moved enough to present new material so it rubs on the already cut surface creating friction and heat, when cutting speed is correct the heat is carried away by the swarf and away from the bit, you can see this better when cutting metal. Check out the temperature of your swarf you will find its a lot warmer than the piece your cutting. I think he meant moving too slow for the rpm on the machine.
Thank you for the video. Super helpful! Question - Can cnc machines use a 1/8” Bullnose router bit to de-edge and de-corner rectangle 1/8” polycarbonate? Would this bit run into the cnc table? Would the material need to be raised up off the table? Thank you for your time!
Great job brother! You are an excellent teacher. BTW: Amazon should sponsor you. :-). Thanks for the great advice. I’m your new favorite subscriber. :-)
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Mistake #8: Cutting your hair with a CNC router
So, this is actually a great and very informative video! Everyone having fun with my comment should at least vote a thumb up for the video, pls.
great video, sorry just had to laugh about this comment. Thanks
🤣
You made me laugh. 👍
quite possibly the funniest comment ever...!!
Hahaha😂
Love this book! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
I'm used to larger, corded routers ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
I have been running a machine commercially for 2 years now and still feel like I have no idea what to charge, some jobs go so easy and others a very difficult! I have learned that even though the machine is "doing all the work", learning how to use it properly and efficiently is also a huge undertaking. Thanks for the tips, probably a little late for me but hopefully others are smart enough to start here!
Im ordering my cnc in the next week. And im glad ive been a cnc machinist for almost 20 years and a lot of what you said translates from machining steel to working with wood. Good advice. Cant wait to start making stuff
Excellent work. I'm retired and ordered a 4x8 CNC kit. I know it's an ambitious decision to build since I have zero CNC experience but, I figured what better way to learn my machine. I'm hoping that it may help diagnose machine issues that may arise later. This video was very informative and well presented . Direct, to the point, and no annoying music. Keep 'em coming.
How’d it turn out for you?
Unfortunately I've been tied up with car projects and my art business that I haven't started yet.
its a year on, did you go with the CNC in the end? how did you get on? Im considering getting an 8x4 machine myself @@ravenartsandgraphics4456
After my first year with my CNC I found myself in every mistale you mentioned. And I just had to go through it, like you said. Very helpful Video, thank you!
CNCing for over a year. Wish I'd seen your video when I started. Thank You.
just started looking into it. hows it going?
Nice detailed video. I've watched a lot of CNC videos, as I hope to eventually add one to my shop. This is the first one that covered these types of issues. I'd be interested in seeing your CNC machines and talk about what you like and don't like about each.
Hello!!
Great Video and you nailed it in regards to accepting mistakes, and learning, then moving forward. I have been in CNC for 25+ years, and as a machinist I understand speeds and feeds, the hardest part for me is getting used to working with wood, (0.005" tolerance doesn't exist in woodworking! and thank God for Wood Filler ) I have built a hobby machine and am making signs. and such for friends and family. My hardest thing is putting a price on the fun side of it, which is the creating. Cutting is fine, but taking an photo and carving it is the fun challenge for me, and also the fun. I look online to get comparisons from others so I have been using that as a price gauge. So far I know have been charging less as I am very gratified to see peoples reaction, but as retirement is getting closer, I would like to figure out what are realistic charges I should be making.
Thanks again and I will be watching your channel.
I loved the endmill example with Fred. Great visual!
Thanks for that. I'm new to hobby level CNC machining with wood so I had no idea about those types of bits. Much appreciated.
Hilarious scream you built into your presentation - it made me laugh and I‘ll never forget it once it happens to me again!! 😅😅😅
Just making a research on CNC machines and saw this very informative video. It's must watch before running CNC. Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much. I learned so much from this video.
Dude you are legit, I just found your video
I’ll learn more from you
Saludos desde West Coast
Thank you so much. Needed one place to understand all the things you mentioned. On top, nicely done. Two thumbs up!!!
Nicely presented! Thanks!
How not to videos are just as valuable as how to vids. Good work.
Thank you very much for sharing this. Super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect video for me to watch before getting my CNC next week. Thanks and GIG EM, brother
Useful information, thanks.
Glad it helped!
Thank you
Excellent video! I have just got myself a hobby cnc 3018 machine and will keep in mind of how to not to make the mistakes you pointed out.
very very helpful
Thank you very much
Very HELPFULL video...
Thanks!
Have you got a video showing the computer design process, & then taking that file to the cnc via usb?
Thanks for the great tips
Great video.. 👍
I'm somewhere in the middle of learning basics of cnc and some of this stuff was very useful thanks!
keep your videos coming!
I've been a contractor in the painting industry for 40 years still doing the work only because I can't teach anyone what I've learned and tweeked sometimes I don't know how I even do it if you love what you do it's not work I love to keep learning the mind is a beautiful thing
Very Nice
Superb video, very informative - well done! Keep them coming!
Great instructional video on mistakes..im getting ready to purchase my first cnc and your video just cleared alot of spider webs in my head thank you
Noticed your Aggie Ring. Howdy from Kansas. Whoop! Class of '86.
I’d like to introduce you to Glenn from the comment below!!
Whoop
Thanks for advice
Excellent video for beginner in wood CNC milling. I make all 7 mistakes from video when beginning hobby CNC mill woodworking. I learn it personaly at hard way.
Thank you , I get my first machine in September so this was great, it’s the cad/cam side I’m really nervous about.
Haw can I do to bye it
Very well explained! Thank you!
20:31 nice lol
Thanks....for giving valuable information
Very informative video. Nice way of explanations makes some things very clear. I would like to see some tips of yours regarding feeds and speeds.
@@cutting-it-close Cheers buddy thanks a ton!!!
that CNC you're standing next to "starts" at $15,500 here in 2023. Would you film the exact same content today?
That’s crazy, so they took away the IQ it seems and only have the Pro edition which has the Automatic tools changer, just the IQ should only be like $7,000, I personally would not start with a small desktop CNC like that with an ATC it would not save you enough time on your toolpaths. That IQ Pro is the upgraded version of mine. I don’t know why they took down the cheaper model, makes no sense. I would not of been able to afford that 15K CNC when I was starting out.
I must also agree very well done thank you…… I also have no experience, but I’ve always wanted to learn CAD and Cam
So much that my kid got an opportunity for an apprenticeship where his license through the state now and has been machining for 15 years so I do have a great support system … but your video was awesome so thank you for the information
Nice
Extremely well done without too much unexplained jargon. The cost calculations alone are worth watching this vid. multiple times especially since machine use time vs machine investment, Include dedicated work space, bits, materials for learning, final product material storage for material and possibly sound reduction in the work room. Then how does a retired non machinist price his/her time?
Just starting out. Great video. Many Thanks.
what are your thoughts on the avid cnc line? I'm currently debating between the laguna IQ 2x4 and the avid PRO6060 5' x 5? This is my first cnc and I'm looking to grow it into a full time business but would like to spend between 10-20k.
Great video. I'm looking into buying my first CNC and cutting some graphite
You've shared the video at the right time. I will need more information since am working on a DIY CNC router.
@@cutting-it-close am waiting to watch it
I was a CNC tech at a university for a while and getting back into it now with a beefy 4x8 machine from Industrial CNC. If you get the chance to cover general feeds and speed with specific materials breakdown, that would be amazing! Also, Love these videos! Is there a way to help support?
Great video... Gig’em ‘93
Very good video. All wheat and no chaff.
Awesome video!
Hi, what are the brand CNC machines that you use?
Thanks for this video. I have been machining some UHMW and the bit was screaming...I thought I was pushing it too fast! Quite the opposite. Good to know!
At about 4:00 you mention use of the half inch bit. I use a half inch bit in my cnc and its a hobby machine made out of HDPE and metal rails. Not sure if my experience is the same as yours because I run a half inch bit with ease. Perhaps its the type of cuts as well
How fast are you running it?
Love your videos! Keep it up👍
Excellent video. Where were you 5 years ago? 😂. Great job!
greetings from me, cnc youtuber from Indonesia
Great Job!
Can you cut metal with that particular cnc machine ?
Considering this. I want to say thanks to people who design, test and list every bolts nuts so beginners can start it out. Learning curve is painful, time and money costly
Thank you I have learned so many things from your video
Just found your channel. Interesting.
You talked about running the bit too slow, what kind of chip load per tooth do you recommend? Are the tools high speed steel or carbide?
Very interesting and clearly explained basics for CNC learners...like myself !!!
Be careful using silicone lubricant in a shop where you will do any painting, especially spray painting. Silicone is the enemy of paint.
Thank goodness. First person on my wavelength I’ve seen on UA-cam.
From the land down under 🇦🇺
White lithium is a better choice without buying specialist stuff.
@@AG-cg7lk yep, I use it on my CNC and drum sander.
Awesome video. Is there a way the jig can be made without a drill press?
Howdy from Indiana! BQ ‘85. Whoop!
Hey Glenn can I introduce you to Tom from the comment above.
Whoop!
Can u tell us what are u making? Like everyday jobs..
Thanks for this video.. It's helpful 👌
Broke my bit today. What can be great video? About bits. Its life time, different materials? Low end, high end, sime special ones? Thank you for your effort
Great video and directions, I plan on getting a router over the next month. I am currently working with a co2 laser with LIGHT Burn. Do you work with lasers? I would like to see that video. SUBSCRIBED
Thanks Buddy You Explained it very well
Superb excellent
MDF stands for Medium-density fibreboard, not "micro", right?
Right
NEVER use MDF EVER! Look at the materials it’s made from. It’s Carcinogenic and it’s made from wood dust, formaldehyde and urea resins. You are breathing the fine dust in when machining, even with a mask. I won’t allow this stuff in my home unless it’s sealed with an oil base finish.
@@darrellsaturnbigfoot so basically its like a cigarette.
Harder to light...
@@darrellsaturnbigfoot Problem is that spoilboards are usually made of just this type of material. There are also other materials that are made in equally toxic ways. OBF, Particle Board, LDF, HDF, Plywood, Melamine boards, etc. You have to stick to solid wood only, to avoid the toxicity and even then the dust remains and will still pose a problem in the long run, by increasing your chances of developing COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease).
You can't avoid carcinogens when you're a maker. You can just look up the most harmful carcinogens and try to avoid those, but at the end of the day, even your own body is a carcinogen, as it only takes a single cell that doesn't split correctly, in order for it to mutate into a cancer cell. Cancer isn't just caused by exterior reasons. It can easily be caused by your own body fucking up.
Is there any formula related to bit size vs motor rpm vs cutting depth?
How do up-cut bits tear at the material, if you use a chamfer bit for the paths first? Like leaving a 1mm chamfer after all paths are complete... Is tear out at the top a problem in plywood?
Like for "screaming"! Made my day )))
Problem of Running to slow. If you have a hobby machine it is not good to slow down the rpm cause the spindle is probably to weak, Same if you increase the feed rate. For beginners with hobby machines i would recommend to buy single flutes endmills, which allows to run them with high rpm and slow speeds with the right feed rates. This helped me the most
So awesome! Love it. Thank you.
Great Video, very informative and motivating 👍 subscribed
What's the best CNC you can recommend for a total beginner for under 500?
Same question but with a $1000+/- budget... I’ve heard that not all CNC a can cut radius’s well.
Great tips, thanks man
Good advise here thanks. I am not new to CNC machining but I am new to the small machines. I recently purchased a Sainsmart 4040 pro and I am having trouble with chatter. I am cutting 1/4" Hickory and Walnut with bits from 1/8" up yo 1/4". So far I have had the best luck with a 3/16" single flute up cut tool. I am starting to think that the supplied spindle needs to be replaced with a heavier duty model. Any advise you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge im just getting into the cnc world and found this helpful, only complaint is would be nice to of seen a visual example when explaining what all the different drill bits do
Hi, It's great, I'm a biggener what cnc machine you recommend for me
I ran a shift at a cabinet shop that laid off their $10/hr panel saw operator and leased a $250,000 CNC router to cut rectangles out of sheet goods. They took their best cabinet maker off the floor to convert CAD to CAM, one line of code at a time, because they didn't want to pay for the good software. When they went out of business I took a job at a high-end shop on Maui. They cut everything on a panel saw.
Fuckin Howlies
Hello,
I'm a newbie and at the end of your video strangely I've though exactly the opposite of what you were saying. "Speed up your RPM or slow down your feed rate..." to avoid friction as you said in the case of running the bit too slow
If your bit is spining too fast the cutting edge gets round for the next cut before the machine moved enough to present new material so it rubs on the already cut surface creating friction and heat, when cutting speed is correct the heat is carried away by the swarf and away from the bit, you can see this better when cutting metal. Check out the temperature of your swarf you will find its a lot warmer than the piece your cutting. I think he meant moving too slow for the rpm on the machine.
@@incubatork Ok, got it thanks Derek.
Watch out with the silicone lube. It can contaminate your finish and give you fish eyes.
Great video, thanks. Enjoyed the screamer.
Thank you for the video. Super helpful!
Question - Can cnc machines use a 1/8” Bullnose router bit to de-edge and de-corner rectangle 1/8” polycarbonate?
Would this bit run into the cnc table? Would the material need to be raised up off the table?
Thank you for your time!
really helpful thank you so much!
Great Vid!! Loved it !! Cheers.
hey buddy i really appreciate your time, thanks alot for all those very useful knowledge and was very helpful and you are awsome
@@cutting-it-close honestly very rare people will do what you have done for some one like me and for that I have to thank you,
Nice job! subbed
Great job brother! You are an excellent teacher. BTW: Amazon should sponsor you. :-). Thanks for the great advice. I’m your new favorite subscriber. :-)