Building the Plans for America's Tallest Skyscraper

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  • @philipgior3312
    @philipgior3312 3 місяці тому +18

    As a New Yorker I say build it. NYC and Chicago have had the tallest buildings for well over a century, let some other city have a chance. The fact that this is a relatively small city makes it even better.

  • @MrMannyfresh78
    @MrMannyfresh78 4 місяці тому +38

    I can’t understand the hate for this. Like if you don’t live here then why are you mad? I think people need to be reminded that some cities try to improve and grow themselves. Why does that run some people the wrong way? If I heard Des Moines, IA or Richmond , VA was building a new tower, I’d think “cool, good for them. Can’t wait to see how it turns out.” I can understand not agreeing with the project design but the flat out hate is just an embarrassing display of pointless anger.

    • @Rossfab
      @Rossfab 3 місяці тому

      Or it’s from people that are here, and don’t want a “big city” or any big city problems.

    • @jwells3315
      @jwells3315 2 місяці тому +1

      Maybe because Oklahoma has better things to spend $$$ on. Like, maybe better schools, better OR EVEN JOBS! Oklahoma is NOT only Oklahoma City or Tulsa. The State is lacking in COMPETANT PEOPLE! and is VERY POOR! better spend on COMPETANT LAW ENFORCEMENT!

    • @Crafty4Ever123
      @Crafty4Ever123 Місяць тому +3

      But if this increases revenue to the state, then we could fund schools and other things more🤨

    • @dwightanderson8331
      @dwightanderson8331 15 днів тому

      ​@jwells3315 since when did the state or okc announce they were building it?

    • @Fatfinger4378
      @Fatfinger4378 11 днів тому

      @@jwells3315 Or at least competent spelling!

  • @musiclightss
    @musiclightss 4 місяці тому +7

    What a Great video about The Project. And Glad you Brought up the Core Design.
    That's what I want people to see when they starting talk about the Tornado's and such on.
    A lot of Other people don't bring that up.
    Also One of the People that is on behind the Project was a person who was at both Okc Bombing and 9/11 Sites at the time when they Happened. So They have Really Designed the core Well.

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth 4 місяці тому +10

    I hope it's built as designed especially since Observation Deck fees are the most lucrative part of any skyscraper development of note. This is why every tower in NYC that is mixed use has one... Even the Empire State Building only makes $10M/year from office leases but $100M/year from lift fees from tourists wanting their own Sleepless in Seattle/An Affair to Remember moment... I get it. I did the same thing! Spent nearly $100 to stay an hour and it was sold out the day I went 13 years ago so that says how much $$$ there is in the game..

    • @BD-lq4id
      @BD-lq4id 4 місяці тому +5

      theres nothing in OKC worth observing though :)

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +1

      @@BD-lq4id the bombing memorial, the original La boardwalk Ferris wheel, bricktown, the thunder, the OKC dodgers, factory obscura, frontier city,
      I could go on and on, OKC is literally one of the most entertaining cities in the whole country, I’m from California and I’ve had more fun in OKC than anywhere in cali.

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth 4 місяці тому +18

    As an Edmontonian, which like OK City, is fast growing our tallest building is a 66 story mixed use skyscraper that houses retail, apartments, offices and hotel units and it also anchors the ICE District where Rogers Place of the Edmonton Oilers play... We're also in Canada's tornado alley and I personally witnessed/survived the Edmonton 1987 twister than killed 27 people from about a quarter mile away. I am terrified of twisters and of heights but even I fully approve of adding more glassy concrete and steel towers into our skyline as is the case back in Oklahoma... And for context, Stantec is ONLY 823'/253m tall and is the tallest tower outside of Toronto but there are plans for much taller towers underway even by the same developer as was the one that built our current record holder... And it's planned as an almost exclusively residential supertall I'm told with an observation deck to make all that sweet sweet tourist bank as is probably the case with OK City and the Legends Tower. Sure it's landlocked but there's still great views from anywhere especially in twister country. Heck that might even be a stormwater special iconic place to take in a storm from.. I know I'd give it a try...

    • @Cika044
      @Cika044 4 місяці тому

      Do you approve of justin?

    • @geofflepper3207
      @geofflepper3207 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Cika044
      What the heck does that have to do with skyscrapers?
      Do you always struggle to stay on topic?

    • @geofflepper3207
      @geofflepper3207 4 місяці тому

      For some reason Calgary has significantly more tall buildings than does Edmonton and far, far more than Ottawa and as for
      Oklahoma City - not sure it even has any tall buildings right now.
      If I remember correctly Edmonton had concerns about tall buildings interfering with flight paths and Ottawa had restrictions on buildings taller than the Peace Tower.
      Calgary had a rule preventing buildings from casting a shadow on city hall or on the Bow River but still has built more tall buildings than have a lot of bigger cities.
      Don't know why Oklahoma City's skyline is so short.

    • @Cika044
      @Cika044 4 місяці тому

      @@geofflepper3207because he built all those skyscrapers in canada!!

    • @sebastianbache8862
      @sebastianbache8862 3 місяці тому

      Edmonton is Canada's redneck heaven.
      😂😂😂
      🧡💛💚💙🩵💜❤️

  • @davidsimon1324
    @davidsimon1324 3 місяці тому +7

    This is awesome 😎 they need to build it.

  • @hydroac9387
    @hydroac9387 Місяць тому +1

    I say build it.
    If it isn't feasible it will be painfully apparent pretty quickly, driving down new home/apartment prices.

  • @-OAK-
    @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +12

    Finally someone who actually puts research into their video to address the questions that people have, instead of just rambling about how “it makes no sense for it to be in OKC” and “how a tornado will destroy it”
    You put in the research as to why it’s in OKC, and why tornados aren’t a problem. 👍

    • @stickynorth
      @stickynorth 4 місяці тому +4

      I'm in Edmonton aka the Canadian tornado capital and we already have the tallest building in Canada outside of downtown Toronto. It's not an issue. The only issue we have is cheap silicone adhesives sending sheet glass flying off the tower besides of the cities now notoriously extreme weather... This week we hit 40c with the humidex and it's not uncommon for winter temps to bottom out in the -40c range... You are asking A LOT of glass at that point not to crack itself much less what's holding it from dropping 800' feet onto a crowded plaza filled with 30,000 young drunk Edmontonians as was the case during the Stanley Cup finals where you could count up to 70,000 people outside within a few hundred feet of the tower for hours on end during the last 2 months at several nearby public plaza's watching on theatre sized screens...

    • @The_Team-p8f
      @The_Team-p8f Місяць тому +1

      its also statiscally almost improbable for one to hit that exact location and destroy something

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth 4 місяці тому +2

    Ironic that if you look back Gensler Architecture offered their own plan for the Chicago Spire site and it all boiled down to the observation deck revenues paying for everything else.. I think if more developers exploit this concept you're going to finally see Supertall's sprout across North America in places like Seattle, Portland, Las Vegas, Denver, Phoenix, Atlanta, Chicago, Minneapolis, Austin, Miami, Dallas, Charlotte, etc. Just not with any real large office content... Like The Legends Tower it focuses on luxury apartments/hotel units/hospitality spaces, telecom/broadcast opportunities and most importantly OBSERVATION DECK tolls... $50/head is a standard common price these day and that quickly adds up to even middling attractions earning tens of millions a year in essentially free money...

  • @MarcusBP
    @MarcusBP 3 місяці тому +4

    It seems in these comments that this proposed skyscraper in OKC really eats at those on the left. Wonder why that is!

    • @vicgodsucks1157
      @vicgodsucks1157 16 днів тому

      Educate yourself. The state is very right-wing, bloody red! The majority of the people don't want it, and they could spend that money on their crappy education system!!

    • @LitMo03
      @LitMo03 День тому

      @@vicgodsucks1157this comment section isn’t strictly Oklahoma, but you’re right, Oklahoma is dark red

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 4 місяці тому +1

    Something for Mayor Janeway to run? Seems like one of those projects that is a "Build it and they will come" sort of items. Then someone drank the ayahuasca.......

  • @jamie.777
    @jamie.777 4 місяці тому +3

    I like it

  • @sergio7248
    @sergio7248 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazinnggg video

  • @konchi422
    @konchi422 3 місяці тому

    Love your videos. Only thing I wish is that they where 15-20 min long but great work

  • @Paulj327C
    @Paulj327C 4 місяці тому +6

    I do hope they build it and it works for OKC like the Burj Khalifa did for Dubai.

    • @hobog
      @hobog 4 місяці тому +2

      Like how Burj Khalifa isn't connected to sewage, so it needs an army of septic trucks?

  • @danoc51
    @danoc51 4 місяці тому

    The developer says he has funding for this project but that is hard to believe. Financing for these projects is usually done in two phases: 1) the construction loan, and then 2) the "takeout" or permanent financing once the project is completed and attains specified occupancy and income levels. Financing for the tower will be based on a lot of conditions, some pertaining to the completion and successful lease-up of the first two towers. My bet is that the builder has no real expectations of building the tower, perhaps just hoping to get the first two structures completed, then sell off the project. In reality, it is very, very unlikely that the developer has solid financing on this property or that it will be completed as advertised. Office properties have become dogs on the market the past few years and the kind of big-money lenders needed for this project (such as the largest banks and insurance companies) have become very conservative in lending their money, especially in such a small market.

  • @mark5846
    @mark5846 4 місяці тому +3

    Private financing will determine it's future.

  • @californiamade5608
    @californiamade5608 4 місяці тому +4

    Chicago people gna be mad jealous

    • @philipgior3312
      @philipgior3312 3 місяці тому +1

      Why? They don't have the tallest building in the US now.

    • @jwells3315
      @jwells3315 2 місяці тому +1

      I am from Chicago, they could CARE LESS!

    • @vicgodsucks1157
      @vicgodsucks1157 16 днів тому

      It'll never be built anyway!! 😂😂

  • @deadpoolfanboy3012
    @deadpoolfanboy3012 4 місяці тому +5

    Brooklyn has a tower now…

  • @RoySATX
    @RoySATX 4 місяці тому

    I am a fan of beautiful architecture, especially super-talls, but this seems absurd, absurdly decedent even. I am going out on a limb here and predicting phase II will get scaled back significantly if built at all. And admittedly I don't have any idea of the demographics of OKC, but I can imagine it's not doing much better than the average US city in terms of affordable housing, nor do I believe this project will relive the need for more affordable housing in any appreciative way. I suspect this won't prevent the developer from receiving the tax incentives for claiming it will, though. I hope I am wrong on all of this, the renders look great.

    • @LitMo03
      @LitMo03 День тому

      Check out cost of living in Oklahoma City and Oklahoma as a whole. 2nd cheapest cost of living in the country. This project and the potential for more towers to be built in the future will definitely drive up the cost of living

  • @KsK-p7o
    @KsK-p7o 4 місяці тому +1

    💖

  • @who2u333
    @who2u333 4 місяці тому +1

    Buildings that are the tallest in X are vanity projects. The question is who in OKC is that vain?

  • @markroberts2277
    @markroberts2277 3 місяці тому +1

    Is it wise to build the worlds tallest skyscraper in Toronto Alley.

  • @kazikian
    @kazikian 4 місяці тому +21

    They’re just going to build the low-rise buildings of the complex, then cancel the tower. Very clever drumming up hype!

    • @stickynorth
      @stickynorth 4 місяці тому

      I sure hope not... But you're probably right. It would be very stupid and shortsighted though. Observation Deck fees are the most lucrative part of skyscraper construction... Even NYC's Empire State clears $100M from lift passes but only $10M from office lease revenue... Go figure!

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +8

      @@kazikian I doubt it, they wouldn’t go through all of the trouble of getting the height requirements, securing the money, and getting investors if they weren’t going to end up building it

    • @LIL-MAN_theOG
      @LIL-MAN_theOG 4 місяці тому

      @@stickynorth false. You dont get development at all. The more will come from long term leases from businesses, condo buyers and retail. Then observation and other touristy items. This aint the Burj Kalifa in Dubai or a building in New York City.

    • @pjesf
      @pjesf 4 місяці тому +2

      @@stickynorthExactly what is there to see from an observation deck in OK?

    • @maxwarboy3625
      @maxwarboy3625 4 місяці тому +1

      @@pjesf a crazy ocean of land... it could still be quite fascinating to be high up an observation deck on such a tall building even if at first you wouldn't think there would be much - there is a direct relationship: the higher you go, the more you see...
      (example is the curvature of the Earth, although not even the tallest skyscrapers have ever come close to the height needed to see it, it is a fact that if the building kept going, like a space elevator, eventually, you could)

  • @antiWhiteism777
    @antiWhiteism777 4 місяці тому +1

    1 of 5) More housing means more sc...

  • @vicgodsucks1157
    @vicgodsucks1157 16 днів тому

    *I BET ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, THIS CRAP WILL NEVER BE BUILT!!* 😆😆

  • @marblox9300
    @marblox9300 4 місяці тому +3

    Oklahoma is like Tornadosville. Um, I say no.

    • @LitMo03
      @LitMo03 День тому

      No tornado has ever hit downtown okc.

    • @marblox9300
      @marblox9300 День тому +2

      @@LitMo03 And I hope one never does.:)

  • @debrawalker2197
    @debrawalker2197 2 місяці тому

    Another building to be hit by a airplane.
    But I don't live in the city... I'm country
    And I have to watch out for tornados not planes.

  • @dudermcdudeface3674
    @dudermcdudeface3674 3 місяці тому

    From historical experience, most likely outcome is they build all the mediocre elements of the plan but then scale back the tower to something much smaller. Developers love to waste people's time with fantasy renderings.

  • @mjerome1457
    @mjerome1457 4 місяці тому +5

    This is absolutely not necessary

  • @antiWhiteism777
    @antiWhiteism777 4 місяці тому +1

    More housing means more...

  • @lawrup
    @lawrup 4 місяці тому +1

    First

  • @J3scribe
    @J3scribe 4 місяці тому +3

    This build is never going to happen. Fun for clickbait, though.

    • @justindwight5457
      @justindwight5457 2 місяці тому +1

      15 years ago a lot more people were saying OKC’s Devon tower would never be built. Especially Texans. They seemed the most butt hurt when it was built.
      Not saying it will absolutely be built as it’s currently planned, but I wouldn’t rule it out.
      If education were fixed in Oklahoma, I would imagine that OKC would be further up the “fastest growing cities”, from 6th to who knows. Everyone seems to know how bad education is in Oklahoma and it’s a huge reason why growth has been slow in the region.
      Not a fan and extremely deca

  • @NJBKATL
    @NJBKATL Місяць тому +1

    The mentality of Oklahoma would never support this project it's just a pipe dream.

  • @billfeld5883
    @billfeld5883 4 місяці тому +1

    I won't surprise me too hear about problems with it, same old excuse "it would have cost more, and we're hoping that it wouldn't bite us in the ass!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @will.davlin
    @will.davlin 4 місяці тому +1

    🧦Wool socks to sleep=20% mood increase the next day🟣🟧🟥

    • @davidgolf3245
      @davidgolf3245 4 місяці тому

      Please don't sell your stuff on someone's video, not cool. Very rude. Cheers from Australia.

  • @hamburglar83
    @hamburglar83 4 місяці тому +1

    What the hellllllll for. Views of parking lots and plains?

    • @The_Team-p8f
      @The_Team-p8f Місяць тому

      the city has a large suface area.... youd be seeing lots of lights, more than you think

    • @emmittbrazillesr.897
      @emmittbrazillesr.897 Місяць тому +1

      some of the most beautiful sunrises and sunsets in the country..

  • @xxxx-tb4de
    @xxxx-tb4de 4 місяці тому

    Oh the tower that will never be built

  • @AnthonyMartinez-qz2nz
    @AnthonyMartinez-qz2nz 4 місяці тому +1

    They have been "talking" about this project for over a fucking year now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tjtreinen7381
    @tjtreinen7381 4 місяці тому +2

    Ain't gonna happen..... its a scam...

  • @mjerome1457
    @mjerome1457 4 місяці тому

    And when that tornado comes through there cat five everyone’s gonna get blown out of the windows!!!💀💀💀

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mjerome1457 that’s not gonna happen,
      1) they have tornado resistant glass that is very unlikely to get moved from a tornado
      2) there had never once been a tornado close to the downtown area of OKC. Chicago has had closer calls than OKC, heck I’m pretty sure nyc has had closer calls.
      OKC has had a 844ft tower for over a decade and nothing has happened

    • @Timof2009
      @Timof2009 4 місяці тому +3

      Never heard of a “Cat 5” tornado… LOL

    • @MarcusBP
      @MarcusBP 3 місяці тому

      Cat 5 tornado. LOL!

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mjerome1457 OKC is no stranger to skyscrapers, in 1931 the first national tower was completed, if this building were in nyc it would be one of New Yorks tallest buildings at the time. and it was talller than the tallest building in cities like LA.
      Now OKC is home to the 71st tallest building in the country, the Devon tower, which was at once point one of the tallest buildings in the world.

    • @The_Team-p8f
      @The_Team-p8f Місяць тому +1

      @@-OAK- exactly

  • @SpencerRogers-ku3gr
    @SpencerRogers-ku3gr 3 місяці тому

    OKC is not even a big city. It's gonna be a joke.

  • @KaliforniaLA
    @KaliforniaLA 4 місяці тому +24

    I wouldn’t spend a single dollar in a red state

    • @stickynorth
      @stickynorth 4 місяці тому +7

      Me neither however I do admire the courage of these architects, developers and city planners on building this tower because it will be a rip roaring success despite the doubters. The money in these towers isn't in 99% of the buildings space... It's to be made from $50 lift passes to the observation deck. Even the Empire State Building only collects $10M/year from offices rentals across 80+ floors but $100M/year from those Empire State Building Observation Tower fees... Ditto for CN Tower in Canada which was built for chump change in the 1970's and clears similar numbers every year... That's why the railway that built it has held onto it all this time.. Probably makes more money per day than most of its own rail lines...

    • @MrMackievelli
      @MrMackievelli 4 місяці тому +35

      Ditto for a blue state. Disgusting to see any money head that way.

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +6

      @@KaliforniaLA why?

    • @mcuthor7831
      @mcuthor7831 4 місяці тому

      Yet you spend your money in that S-hole California; which is a complete dumpster fire and losing people and businesses in droves. By all means stay there, here in places like thriving Texas, we don’t need you.

    • @mcuthor7831
      @mcuthor7831 4 місяці тому +3

      I contend the mega skyscraper will never happen; they’re using it as a carrot to get funding to build the smaller buildings; once those are all built, they’ll announce they’re scaling the project back and scrap the taller building.

  • @douglasmcpherson7048
    @douglasmcpherson7048 4 місяці тому +3

    What a disaster. The market wouldn’t support it. And honestly, who wants to live in Oklahoma.

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому

      @@douglasmcpherson7048 a lot of people, it has been one of the fastest growing states throughout its entire history, OKC is also ranked the 10th best place for college graduates, and 16th best place to live.
      Also the market could support it, due to all of the growth the main thing OKC needs is housing, and they are down 3000+ hotel rooms, and OKC is the 5th hottest job spot, all stuff this tower provides, so it could easily be supported

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому

      @@douglasmcpherson7048 Oklahoma has been one of the fastest growing states ever throughout its entire existence, getting a population of 1mil just 3 years after state hood, and reaching 4mil people after a little over 100 years. So idk how no one would want to live in Oklahoma.
      OKC was also ranked the 16th best place to live and 10th best place for college graduates.
      The market could totally support it, OKC is one of the fastest growing cities in the country, it’s in the need for a lot of housing and hotel rooms, being down 3k+ hotel rooms and being in a housing shortage, not only that but they are the 5th hottest job spot, this is all amenities that the tower provides, so it would fill easily.
      And the city would get tons of tourism money from this tower so all it even does it help the city.

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому

      @@douglasmcpherson7048 Oklahoma has been one of the fastest growing states every since it was created, reaching 1mil people 3 years after statehood, 2million 20 years after and 4million a little after 100 years.
      So idk how no one would want to live in Oklahoma when it’s been growing at extreme rates for decades.
      OKC is also ranked the 16th best place to live, and 10th best place for college graduates, so it’s overall a good place to live.
      This tower also provides amenities that OKC needs, like housing, hotels rooms, jobs.
      OKC is in a housing shortage, is down 3k+ hotel rooms, and is the 5th hottest job spots, so the market could easily support its, especially because how much growth and tourism it would bring to the city.

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому

      @@douglasmcpherson7048 Oklahoma has been one of the fastest growing states every since it was created, reaching 1mil people 3 years after statehood, 2million 20 years after and 4million a little after 100 years.
      So idk how no one would want to live in Oklahoma when it’s been growing at extreme rates for decades.
      OKC is also ranked the 16th best place to live, and 10th best place for college graduates, so it’s overall a good place to live.
      This tower also provides amenities that OKC needs, like housing, hotels rooms, jobs.
      OKC is in a housing shortage, is down 3k+ hotel rooms, and is the 5th hottest job spots, so the market could easily support its, especially because how much growth and tourism it would bring to the city.

    • @-OAK-
      @-OAK- 4 місяці тому +1

      @@douglasmcpherson7048 Oklahoma has been one of the fastest growing states every since it was created, reaching 1mil people 3 years after statehood, 2million 20 years after and 4million a little after 100 years.
      So idk how no one would want to live in Oklahoma when it’s been growing at extreme rates for decades.
      OKC is also ranked the 16th best place to live, and 10th best place for college graduates, so it’s overall a good place to live.
      This tower also provides amenities that OKC needs, like housing, hotels rooms, jobs.
      OKC is in a housing shortage, is down 3k+ hotel rooms, and is the 5th hottest job spots, so the market could easily support its, especially because how much growth and tourism it would bring to the city.

  • @sleepy670
    @sleepy670 4 місяці тому +1

    A mega high rise in a red state? This will be the biggest white elephant ever. Don't invest a dime in this disaster

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski 4 місяці тому +3

      as opposed to the empty towers in NYC?

    • @CJW0056
      @CJW0056 4 місяці тому +1

      Was this linked on Reddit or something? Lol

  • @davidmeermans1579
    @davidmeermans1579 4 місяці тому +2

    In a state that can't even educate its children. smh

    • @skurinski
      @skurinski 4 місяці тому

      lol says the idiot from a blue state with "progressive" education

    • @Sampsel2
      @Sampsel2 4 місяці тому

      I think you mean a state that likes housing to be affordable. "Bad" education = cheaper houses

    • @macfoucin
      @macfoucin 4 місяці тому +4

      😂 We're pretty educated here bub. Don't believe everything the liberal media says.

    • @Sampsel2
      @Sampsel2 4 місяці тому +1

      @@davidmeermans1579 "worse" educations means cheaper housing, and as someone in high school in Oklahoma I can tell you that it's more than good enough for most people

    • @Sampsel2
      @Sampsel2 4 місяці тому

      @@davidmeermans1579 worse education means cheaper houses. Massholes I swear

  • @sebastianbache8862
    @sebastianbache8862 4 місяці тому

    It sucks and meant to look like a GD cross. Oh, its in Okie state. Now I understand why. Yuck! 😂😂😂
    🩷🧡💛💚💙🩵💜❤️

    • @MarcusBP
      @MarcusBP 3 місяці тому

      You see a cross??? See an eye doctor and a psychiatrist.

    • @sebastianbache8862
      @sebastianbache8862 3 місяці тому

      @@MarcusBP Well, just a second. You haven't seen the sun rise and shine on the structure. Going by the rendering the intent is there at night. These ideas are not formed in a vacumn by planners. The whole red state of dishonest believers can't be excluded from the final say.
      That's right!