Experts Explain Saudi Arabia’s 2KM Skyscraper

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  • @TheB1M
    @TheB1M  17 днів тому +32

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    • @adrienparisse8299
      @adrienparisse8299 17 днів тому +3

      Hi B1M,
      Please note that at 3:27 you have written 28.5m ^2 foot print which must be typo and should be the length of the side of the square footprint. Or else thats smaller then the average home footprint in even the UK.

    •  17 днів тому +4

      You have a mistake in the video - at around 3:25, you state that the building's footprint is 28.5 m², but that would mean that each side of the building is just a little over 5 meters long. That wouldn't fit even a bathroom, obviously. 🙂 According to Wikipedia, floor plates are squares with 28 m sides, that means that the footprint is about 784 m².

    •  17 днів тому +1

      @@adrienparisse8299 Damn, you have been faster than me. :)

    • @efox2001
      @efox2001 16 днів тому +2

      👎 Your "background music" isn't in the background. It's distracting and interferes with the people talking.

    • @gregc2467
      @gregc2467 15 днів тому

      Reminds me of the Rainbow song ' Stargazer '

  • @ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
    @ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 17 днів тому +2627

    How about completing the Jeddah tower first before attempting a ridiculous 2 km skyscraper?

    • @xyzabcd3606
      @xyzabcd3606 17 днів тому +85

      Two different companies

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +145

      Same country though

    • @peterdonnell3784
      @peterdonnell3784 17 днів тому +71

      It's not like it's the same people working on one project at a time lol.

    • @sgb4798
      @sgb4798 17 днів тому +1

      @@peterdonnell3784same people funding it though, no?

    • @AbdikarimMohamed-fh8jo
      @AbdikarimMohamed-fh8jo 17 днів тому +47

      1 is private and 1 is government backed

  • @Kiwi2703
    @Kiwi2703 17 днів тому +3461

    Yeah we all know it's never gonna be built lol

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +70

      Instead, I believe that they should make Transit Oriented Development ( TOD ). Don’t get me wrong the tower would save space, however if it’s all spread out surrounding say, a train station; it would make a community and a sense of belonging. One more reason to not make a giant skyscraper is the sun. When a skyscraper is made in front of the dawn of dusk points of the sun, it will block off light to the neighbouring street bellow… but that’s only for a small skyscraper.

    • @SnowTheKitsune
      @SnowTheKitsune 17 днів тому +12

      Well they tryibng build the line city.

    • @xxdesertstorm
      @xxdesertstorm 17 днів тому

      for real the only people to believe this will be simps to OPEC+ nations as these nations won't be getting money once Western Nations say no to the price gouging Arabs they are

    • @red.aries1444
      @red.aries1444 17 днів тому +27

      Yes, but maybe they will at least build the foundation. Then they can dig the deepest hole ever for building a skyscraper...

    • @LogsMaggot
      @LogsMaggot 17 днів тому +84

      @@SnowTheKitsune the line that was originally supposed to be 170km long but will actually be around 2km in reality, if that? That line?
      If we go by that ratio, then this 2km tower's gonna be shorter than the apartment where I live lol

  • @mathieulandry1814
    @mathieulandry1814 17 днів тому +669

    The fact that they managed to put an engineer and an architect in the same room without any arguing its also really impressive 😂

    • @dredeth
      @dredeth 17 днів тому +59

      In reality, in proper professional offices this is how it's done.
      Leave that dislike between architects and engineers for sweatshop meme offices...

    • @jimbim4405
      @jimbim4405 17 днів тому +7

      they're both Arup employees. Thats why.....

    • @XTSu-sl1bb
      @XTSu-sl1bb 17 днів тому +7

      He’s a young engineer with open mind. Not very common to find these

    • @demoman2
      @demoman2 16 днів тому

      he's not a structural engineer but in the department "Integrating expertise in mechanical, electrical and public health engineering, we design the systems that support buildings and create a delightful environment for the people who use them."

    • @sakaar_uk
      @sakaar_uk 16 днів тому +1

      best comment

  • @Arrynek01
    @Arrynek01 17 днів тому +53

    Can't believe I have to say it but... 133m by 133m is not 133 square meters.
    Probably should fix that.

    • @mx0r
      @mx0r 8 днів тому +2

      I had to replay it multiple times, as our apartment is around that and it certainly is not larger than NYC block. 😅 It clicked me, when they included the side lenghts.

  • @_mickmccarthy
    @_mickmccarthy 17 днів тому +1375

    "The Vertical Line"
    Looking forward to seeing how this one gets scaled back

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +28

      They wanted to make a ruler to measure the line lol

    • @n3ff848
      @n3ff848 17 днів тому +82

      If they scale it back at the same factor as their "horizontal line", the would end up with a 29 meter tall building. I think they could manage that.

    • @jonathanj8303
      @jonathanj8303 17 днів тому +54

      "The stump"

    • @_mickmccarthy
      @_mickmccarthy 17 днів тому +4

      @@jonathanj8303 👏😂

    • @owenstockwood5040
      @owenstockwood5040 17 днів тому +12

      @@n3ff848 I, for one, welcome the world's most overengineered midrise!

  • @flolupo
    @flolupo 17 днів тому +598

    Just from the discussion itself and the proposed solutions it is pretty clear that this project is not an answer to any need (like, putting more office space into a crammed location), but rather just the simple desire to build a building of 2km, just "because".

    • @TheJojo01902
      @TheJojo01902 17 днів тому +45

      Agreed … a vanity project.

    • @highcap4952
      @highcap4952 17 днів тому +36

      Skyscrapers above 500 m are never an answer to any need. They are just for Publicity. Especially in the desert, where you have more than enough space!

    • @kik1kik
      @kik1kik 17 днів тому

      Hey now, don't underestimate the need of "we're insecure and need the biggest phallus shaped construction the world has ever seen" ;)

    • @imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431
      @imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431 17 днів тому +21

      Is that bad thing? To build a monumental building just for the sake of building it?

    • @144digital
      @144digital 17 днів тому +3

      "Because" "That works"

  • @auglesher4115
    @auglesher4115 16 днів тому +54

    You know your project is screwed when people trying to wrap their heads around have to say “well if we disregard the laws of physics…..” 😂

    • @RosinDaddy5280
      @RosinDaddy5280 13 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂❤

    • @hellomate639
      @hellomate639 12 днів тому +1

      I feel like I'd believe one of these if they had a reinforced concrete pyramid for a base.

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 10 днів тому +1

      It's not that goofy. It's kind of like dreaming what you would do if you won the lottery, then, knowing you won't, you consider you can't do what you were dreaming of, but what CAN you do with those ideas and the resources you actually have.

  • @JxH
    @JxH 17 днів тому +174

    3:26 On-Screen "28.5m²". *WRONG !!*
    That would be 5.34m x 5.34m = 28.5m², or about the size of two parking spaces.
    That tower is skinny, but it ain't that skinny.
    "m²" has a well-defined meaning, area. Don't confuse it with what some people say, "28.5 meters squared."
    People are supposed to know this.

    • @JxH
      @JxH 17 днів тому +59

      3:46 "133m²" Again, same error in units. 133m x 133m cannot be described as "133m²".

    • @Tr1111on
      @Tr1111on 15 днів тому +20

      That’s embarrassing for Arup!

    • @DieterDuplak314
      @DieterDuplak314 14 днів тому +19

      so deep down the comment ... unbelievably stupid ... engineer and architect ... or boeing engineers?

    • @TheCraigy83
      @TheCraigy83 14 днів тому +7

      i saw that . Even 28x28 meters is very small for the height..
      a 11story block of flats near me is around 15meter x 35meter footprint , its probably only 110ft 🤷‍♂️..

    • @bg73
      @bg73 14 днів тому +10

      Well done - I noticed this too. I have an entertainment area that is 6m x 6m and I was thinking how on earth is that bigger than the base of that building???

  • @maolcogi
    @maolcogi 17 днів тому +501

    500 floors, 500 cable cars, and no stairs or elevators. Emergency escape will be ziplining down the cable, or a parachute. xD

    • @Tony-op6xf
      @Tony-op6xf 17 днів тому +13

      Parachutes 😅

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 17 днів тому +30

      A zip line with a 2km drop would be… exhilarating. And probably have to be 10km long. :)

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 17 днів тому +23

      "In case of emergency, don parachute and yeet yourself out of the escape window."

    • @tientje124
      @tientje124 17 днів тому +8

      A 2 km long slide is the dream of every child. And i guess a lot of adults would try it too😎

    • @krashd
      @krashd 17 днів тому +6

      @@harbl99 That would actually be fine for something like the Burj Kalifa, but in a city packed with other skyscrapers like NYC or Shanghai you would splat against the side of another skyscraper. 😂

  • @Jonassoe
    @Jonassoe 17 днів тому +309

    Saudi Arabia and UAE seem like the kind of places where ambitious architects can just pitch their crazy projects to the rulers, and they don't have to go through any committees or bureaucracy to get started. Projects don't have to make sense or be economical, they just have to look cool and bring prestige to the country.

    • @FahadKhan-cz6cd
      @FahadKhan-cz6cd 17 днів тому +4

      right

    • @hvglaser
      @hvglaser 17 днів тому +44

      Not to mention total disregard for ethical and environmental concerns.

    • @0741921
      @0741921 17 днів тому +32

      There's no environmental concerns in the middle of the desert

    • @Bb13190
      @Bb13190 17 днів тому

      @@0741921 building such a building would produce a lot of carbon, no matter the location, the problem is the construction. And of course, the exploitation of the building (maintenance, elevator, air conditionning).

    • @dg-hughes
      @dg-hughes 17 днів тому +5

      If you think that's ambitious UAE wants to buy a chunk of coast in Egypt near Libya for $50B and build a new city there.

  • @-vz-
    @-vz- 17 днів тому +26

    this was the politest and longest way to say "never" I've ever seen

  • @federicozanolli
    @federicozanolli 17 днів тому +68

    I love how he tries to zoom in on the printed picture at 2:09 :D

  • @AUZZEN04
    @AUZZEN04 17 днів тому +571

    Big fan of architect Jack Harlow

  • @takuan650
    @takuan650 17 днів тому +174

    Why not a 2 km. high spiral staircase ? And a slide to go down. That'll keep You fit.

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 17 днів тому +8

      We all know the people that will occupy the top floors will be able to afford to commute by helicopter to the roof.

    • @saumyacow4435
      @saumyacow4435 16 днів тому +6

      Make it a waterslide :)

    • @mitchell6you
      @mitchell6you 14 днів тому

      spiral train on the outside of the building

  • @zukaro
    @zukaro 17 днів тому +39

    What I want to see is a 2km tall building that's also 2km wide and is an entirely self contained city. Just a massive cube in the middle of the desert.

    • @slaveofjesus3878
      @slaveofjesus3878 15 днів тому +1

      The King of All is preparing a 1,500 mile cube city (with new physics) that will come down to a new earth in His good time! Only those of the faith of Abraham will see that city though.

    • @carlramirez6339
      @carlramirez6339 11 днів тому +1

      @@slaveofjesus3878 I bet MBS thinks you're referring to him.

    • @dw5s
      @dw5s 10 днів тому

      Or a pyramid!

  • @florin9686
    @florin9686 17 днів тому +14

    The footprint IS NOT 28.5m2. One side is 28.5m. That makes for a footprint of 812.25m2 respectively.

  • @Akimfalkoff
    @Akimfalkoff 17 днів тому +72

    Classic engineer: “I can only really draw squares” … proceeds to draw a wonky parallelogram!

  • @Siranoxz
    @Siranoxz 17 днів тому +286

    I find this quite ridiculous at this point.

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +4

      Why don’t they just make TOD instead of like 1 giant building?

    • @Siranoxz
      @Siranoxz 17 днів тому +25

      @@KatoombaTourGuide The Saudi´s have always been unrealistic with their expectations to eventually wow people.

    • @silvervixen007
      @silvervixen007 17 днів тому

      Yeah what's the point

    • @ayushkumar-bg1xf
      @ayushkumar-bg1xf 17 днів тому +10

      Because it’s not happening in west , till 2000 all westerners were measuring their development in terms of infrastructure but when china started overtaking in infrastructure they went silent on that front

    • @GLJosh
      @GLJosh 17 днів тому +1

      Being ridiculous IS the point.

  • @antonerlandsson976
    @antonerlandsson976 17 днів тому +12

    Great video! This should be a series. A series with the same guys discussing different projects.
    Big love from Sweden.

  • @thatitladi9650
    @thatitladi9650 17 днів тому +4

    We need more of these expert discussions Fred... this was really fascinating to hear experts exchange ideas. Very insightful stuff

  • @HUNVilly
    @HUNVilly 17 днів тому +114

    03:47 I don't quite understand 133 m2, is 11,5×11,5 meters. If the average city block is 80 meters wide, that should be more than enough. I'm not sure that the units of measurement are ok.

    • @lochkarteorg
      @lochkarteorg 17 днів тому +57

      I guess they meant 133 * 133 m2 and 28.5 * 28.5 m2
      So: 17689m2 and 812m2

    • @mailxxxxxx
      @mailxxxxxx 17 днів тому +38

      The two guys said it correctly. What that extrapolation gives you is a building with a footprint of 133m x 133m. The video editor just incorrectly „transformed“ that into 133m2.

    • @tommelfinger
      @tommelfinger 17 днів тому +17

      28.5m2 should have been 28.5x28.5 m^2, the 2000 meter tower was 133mx133m. They messed it up :)

    • @Nounooon
      @Nounooon 17 днів тому +8

      Yeah I think the structural engineer went above his skillset trying to calculate a surface area. Hope he's not the one who was contracted to build the house I live in.

    • @bensblues
      @bensblues 17 днів тому +7

      ​@@Nounooonneither of them are structural engineers, but Arup have the best engineers in the world. Clearly the video editor has misunderstood what they said.

  • @into_the_void
    @into_the_void 17 днів тому +76

    Constructed by ACME.. lead designer Wiley Coyote

    • @m.3257
      @m.3257 17 днів тому +9

      😂

    • @raymondjurie9047
      @raymondjurie9047 16 днів тому +4

      It'll be about as successful as Wile E. Coyote's usual endeavours, one would imagine.

  • @deadmxss
    @deadmxss 14 днів тому +4

    I just wanna thank everyone in making this video for using the SI units

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas День тому

      He is British, not American

    • @deadmxss
      @deadmxss День тому

      @@1queijocas no shit dude 🤯🤯

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas День тому +1

      @@deadmxss then why would he use imperial units? I don’t think you know this but the uk uses SI units

  • @inhumanguy
    @inhumanguy 17 днів тому

    i was watching one of your videos last week and got thinking that engineering explainers like this would be a great addition to the channel. hope you do more of them!

  • @rednekokie
    @rednekokie 17 днів тому +126

    The only question is WHY? Unless they wish to reproduce the tower of Babel. Utterly ridiculous!

    • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
      @user-sd3ik9rt6d 17 днів тому +18

      You do know that they are both fictional, right?

    • @kayrosis5523
      @kayrosis5523 17 днів тому +9

      Why? Simple. MBS doubts his sexual prowess, but he has lots of money, so throws them at making something... Large

    • @elhoward7440
      @elhoward7440 17 днів тому

      Like many things men do, it can all be explained by their futile attempts to compensate for their tiny manhood...

    • @HALLish-jl5mo
      @HALLish-jl5mo 17 днів тому +5

      Actually there is a good reason.
      Oil states want to bring in other business to create a service based economy. That can be self sufficient, but you need a reason to start moving there. Projects like this are supposed to kill two birds with one stone: loads of services move to the city to complete the project, and they stay because there's all this great stuff around.
      In theory.
      But I don't have any better ideas other than going back to camels when the oil runs out.

    • @TheGamingMotionTGM
      @TheGamingMotionTGM 17 днів тому +5

      Tower of Babel itself couldn't be infinitely high to reach God since the ancient builders will lack of oxygen.

  • @bc_v01
    @bc_v01 17 днів тому +124

    The area measurements in the beginning of the video are wrong.

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +5

      🤓

    • @Mattwattss
      @Mattwattss 17 днів тому +23

      I’ve been noticing lots of mistakes in their videos recently

    • @AlphaGeekgirl
      @AlphaGeekgirl 17 днів тому +9

      Yeah, 3:53 … puny two bedroom apartment has a footprint of 60 m²

    • @tommelfinger
      @tommelfinger 17 днів тому +38

      28.5m2 should have been 28.5x28.5 m^2, the 2000 meter tower was 133mx133m. They messed it up :)

    • @cd0u50c9
      @cd0u50c9 17 днів тому +2

      Yep just came to say the same, it must be off by roughly a factor of 10..

  • @ExplodeTheCake
    @ExplodeTheCake 17 днів тому +1

    This is a great video concept, more of these 2 please

  • @henene4
    @henene4 16 днів тому +5

    3:28 There's a pretty big mistake there.
    432 Park Ave isn't 28m² (28 square meters), it's 28m squared - thats over 700m².
    Same for the proposed tower - that would come out to over 17000m² with 133m sides.

  • @georgesos
    @georgesos 17 днів тому +73

    The real question is not how.
    The real question is Why?

    • @chrisrosenkreuz23
      @chrisrosenkreuz23 17 днів тому +8

      cos they literally going bankrupt thats why ^^

    • @shimmy7169
      @shimmy7169 17 днів тому +12

      Megalomaniac dictator ego

    • @PROVOCATEURSK
      @PROVOCATEURSK 17 днів тому +1

      Because someone hiding behind a big lake is scared to set them on the right path.

    • @hsvr
      @hsvr 16 днів тому +1

      @@chrisrosenkreuz23no they ain’t

    • @theunknownguy265
      @theunknownguy265 16 днів тому

      ​@chrisrosenkreuz23 last time I checked, our economy is growing

  • @Arational
    @Arational 17 днів тому +101

    What are they compensating for?

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +2

      Idk

    • @mark-ish
      @mark-ish 17 днів тому +30

      The failure of the line.

    • @Netizpossible
      @Netizpossible 17 днів тому +29

      Probably the fact they havent finished the Jeddah tower yet.

    • @teafanatic8452
      @teafanatic8452 17 днів тому +52

      trying to distract us from all the human rights violations that take place there

    • @marcolini_
      @marcolini_ 17 днів тому

      They have 0 women in decision making positions and it shows. If you only have fat old men smoking hooka making decisions, that's the result.

  • @erebuxy
    @erebuxy 16 днів тому +2

    @3:28 133m x 133m is not 133m2. It is 17689m2... The dimension of 432 is also wrong.

  • @BlessedHash
    @BlessedHash 16 днів тому +3

    How do we short this project?

  • @FP-ty9qf
    @FP-ty9qf 17 днів тому +66

    Waste coming out, did you say? Dubai asks you to hold their beer!

    • @Flumphinator
      @Flumphinator 17 днів тому +8

      No, that’s not beer…

    • @richardpavlov442
      @richardpavlov442 15 днів тому +3

      Inspired by famous poop trucks i envision poop helicopters and perhaps even poop catapults and cannons to deal with this problem

  • @oiartsun
    @oiartsun 17 днів тому +25

    The notion of a 2km building calls to mind the huge mega-buildings depicted in Blade Runner (1982). I wonder how feasible it would be to build such a structure with a large, wide base, rather than as thin as possible.

    • @dalemsilas8425
      @dalemsilas8425 17 днів тому +1

      Good idea.

    • @edmush2010
      @edmush2010 14 днів тому +1

      It would be like Neom, but square. :) Too expensive to build. It could use more material than a couple of Three Gorges Dams and some 20 years of construction.

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 11 днів тому +2

      Now I want them to build it just so I can look at a facade full giant commercial with an Asian woman drinking Coca Cola...

    • @mcribbedherpleasure668
      @mcribbedherpleasure668 9 днів тому

      Notice the were pyramid design, not skinny pencils

  • @Connorpellatt
    @Connorpellatt 14 днів тому +1

    Excellent content. This is exactly the sort of thing I subscribe for. I learned a lot here, cheers Fred and team

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch 16 днів тому

    Quite the best video you've given us this year, thank you.
    No doubt a great insight and explanation of behind the scenes considerations engineers are faced with when architects come a-knocking on their door, for those of us who fancy that we know a thing or two already, it was an interesting reminder and led to so many more questions.
    Was there no room to mention the latest in pre-booking lift journeys; effects of gravity on pumps getting water that high; even the benefits of cylindrical towers with those wind blades spiralling up them?
    And and and?
    Please can you consider a part two going into such details.

  • @mrsir1725
    @mrsir1725 17 днів тому +16

    I've never seen jack harlow this quiet

  • @AlexSSB
    @AlexSSB 17 днів тому +74

    "There are other ways to keep something tall and thin upright"
    That's what she said

    • @citibear57
      @citibear57 16 днів тому +7

      What are you saying? The tower should be covered in blue-coloured glass, and called Burj Viagra? 😂

    • @Rakhtor
      @Rakhtor 16 днів тому

      I was going to say something like "Now you have my attention."

    • @isiomaagulebu891
      @isiomaagulebu891 14 днів тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @FreeFinca
      @FreeFinca 12 днів тому

      ​@@citibear57 👏🏻🤣

  • @LewisTL95
    @LewisTL95 16 днів тому

    Really interesting and technical (but easy to consume) video to watch - seeing whether the design could work conceptually at a high level and key challenges that would be faced. More like this Fred!

  • @AJDrex
    @AJDrex 14 днів тому

    This is an incredible video, absolutely loved it! If there's a chance to create more of these kind of videos about other projects in the future, please do! This is fantastic!
    Bonus points for if the project is one that will actually get built haha 😅 but really, I feel like I learned so much just listening to these experts explain different ideas in building design

  • @haris.19
    @haris.19 17 днів тому +43

    Neom where?
    Jeddah tower where?
    😂

    • @jamesogden7756
      @jamesogden7756 16 днів тому +2

      Now we're cooking with glue! 😅
      (Because it makes about the same amount of sense: none)

  • @marcinjemio8857
    @marcinjemio8857 17 днів тому +24

    432 Park Avenue footprint is not 28.5m2! Each side is 28.5m long, so it is 28.5m x 28.5m = 812.25m2. Still very slim for such a high building, but it definitely is not 28.5m2 shown at 3:27. Same applies to a suggested footprint of the 2 km high building. I assume is side would be 133m long, thus the footprint would be 133m x 133m = 17689m2 and not 133m2 shown at 3:52.

    • @seb_617
      @seb_617 17 днів тому +4

      Came here looking for this comment. 28m2 is basically the size of a standard living room; would have thought they’d know a bit better.

    • @StefanoVerugi
      @StefanoVerugi 17 днів тому +8

      thought as much, such a mistake is quite embarrassing for a channel promoting engineering

    • @TrackCityBand5
      @TrackCityBand5 16 днів тому +3

      You can see the look on the other guys face when that happens. This was not a great video in my opinion. Why would we want to see them tracing and drawing images that are out of proportion 😂

  • @rsn9394
    @rsn9394 13 днів тому

    one of my fav channels. more videos with construction guys and architects drawing and teaching!

  • @MrSWphoto
    @MrSWphoto 16 днів тому

    I love that at the end they put what they said into an image generator, the results are pretty cool!

  • @mr.cyprian
    @mr.cyprian 17 днів тому +12

    what a good channel - so interesting! well done to both!

  • @user-dt5nj3uk2s
    @user-dt5nj3uk2s 17 днів тому +6

    Always a good day when there is a new B1M video!

  • @manueledelisio
    @manueledelisio 13 днів тому

    Great video, as usual! The funny bit was hearing ARUP's engineer ( Vini ) talking about the potential use of wind turbines in order to generate power... in split-screen with some stock footage of the Strata tower in London, with its wind turbines turned off ( forevah )

  • @ChevronQ
    @ChevronQ 17 днів тому

    I love this format. Good Video! 😌 (much better than compilations 😉) ❤

  • @donc-m4900
    @donc-m4900 17 днів тому +35

    Where do you put the sewage treatment plant? Burj Khalifa trucks it out daily.

    • @chrisrosenkreuz23
      @chrisrosenkreuz23 17 днів тому +2

      to everyone's olfactory delight

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 17 днів тому +9

      No, Dubai has since dug in their piped sewage network. The remaining pump trucks nowadays empty flood water and sand-clogged drainage.

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht 17 днів тому +7

      the Burj Khalifa has been connected to the sewage system for almost a decade now....

    • @jamesogden7756
      @jamesogden7756 16 днів тому +2

      The roof. For the free solar and wind energy... to aerosolize that shit all over the city. 😂

    • @chrisrosenkreuz23
      @chrisrosenkreuz23 16 днів тому +2

      @@jamesogden7756 hey not to crack wise or anything but you might be onto something there. Imagine if they spread that shit all over the desert instead. LUSH

  • @A380_Flyer
    @A380_Flyer 17 днів тому +51

    Imagine taking the stairs in an emergency

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 17 днів тому +6

      Fire pole!😂

    • @highcap4952
      @highcap4952 17 днів тому +11

      maybe the upper floors get wing gliders ;)

    • @jimsvideos7201
      @jimsvideos7201 16 днів тому +2

      20 centimeters apiece, figure -40000- 10000 of them? You'd need new shoes halfway down.

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 16 днів тому

      @jimsvideos7201 American here, so metric is an unknown measurement. But at 20cm times 10,000 steps, wouldn't that be 200,000cm or 2km?

    • @jimsvideos7201
      @jimsvideos7201 16 днів тому +1

      @@donc-m4900 1.24 miles, 8 inches apiece, yeah, 10000 or so.

  • @dragoda
    @dragoda 17 днів тому

    Great episode involving specialists. Really liked this. We need more of this. Tare care!

  • @chefnyc
    @chefnyc 17 днів тому +2

    At 2km the weather will be 20 degrees celsius colder. So on a January night it will be -10 degrees at the penthouse (even without the wind’s chill effect). Luckily it is a hot place.

  • @eat_ze_bugs
    @eat_ze_bugs 17 днів тому +28

    But why though? They have so much land available.

  • @Enhancedlies
    @Enhancedlies 17 днів тому +4

    great video, honestyl this is the best stuff! detailed explainers

  • @101bennyc
    @101bennyc 16 днів тому +2

    432 park avenue is not 28.5m2,it’s 28m on both sides. So it actually 784m2. Also 28m2 is like two parking spaces.

  • @jamesney3851
    @jamesney3851 16 днів тому

    I really liked this format of video! Hopefully it does well, I look forward to more

  • @mikezy8290
    @mikezy8290 17 днів тому +43

    I'm building my 20km skyscraper in my swampy backyard 😊😊😊

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому

      If it’s swampy then… how exactly??
      Good luck!

    • @mikezy8290
      @mikezy8290 17 днів тому +9

      @@KatoombaTourGuide I have a LINE I wont cross 😂

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому

      @@mikezy8290 ok I get it now

    • @fleshreap
      @fleshreap 17 днів тому +3

      Eagerly awaiting to see the news and various youtubers cover your 100% real project!

    • @mikezy8290
      @mikezy8290 17 днів тому

      @@fleshreap 😂💯

  • @jameslyddall
    @jameslyddall 17 днів тому +9

    As a car guy this is like me saying "I'm gonna finish my V8 engine swap build". It'll happen, one day.

    • @epale
      @epale 6 днів тому

      Lidl 😂

  • @aftonline
    @aftonline 8 днів тому +1

    I would probably build not one tower, but a set of say 6 or 8 slender towers arranged in a circle, interconnected with horizontal sections between them at regular intervals, and a central tower which houses the express lift shaft that goes all the way to the top. The office or residential space would be in the horizontal sections as well as the vertical sections. The entire building would be cross braced for rigidity because of those horizontal sections, which could extend from the outer towers to the centre as well as connecting the towers around the perimeter. The idea is to minimize the vertical loading by restricting each tower to one lift. If your destination is in the top part of the tower you take the central express lift to the closest horizontal level, and then walk horizontally to one of the peripheral lifts to go the rest of the way up. The towers wouldn't be separated by more than about 50 to 100m so your horizontal walk would not be very far.

  • @charleslynch340
    @charleslynch340 17 днів тому +1

    Love this, awesome to see how the people designing these things approach such a novel idea

  • @xXpearcider19Xx
    @xXpearcider19Xx 17 днів тому +47

    It got the world laughing

  • @NSaNelydangerous
    @NSaNelydangerous 17 днів тому +15

    I don't understand the footprint at the beginning at 03:25. It says 432 has a 28.5m² footprint. That's a studio apartment. I don't understand how it goes on to say the 2km building has a 133m² footprint either. What are these figures supposed to mean?

    • @passakornkarnprawatlerdwat5246
      @passakornkarnprawatlerdwat5246 17 днів тому +2

      432m tall building has 28.5sq.m. footprints so 2km building, which is about 4 times as tall, should at least have 4 times bigger footprint. The point is that the footprint would be stupidly big for a super tall building.

    • @andreas.richter
      @andreas.richter 17 днів тому +9

      Yes but the numbers are wrong… 25sqm is 5x5m, which is the length of an SUV (which should be a common us measurement 😉)

    • @Samuel_J1
      @Samuel_J1 17 днів тому +6

      Yeah, it should be 28.5m each side, which gives 812.25m². For the silly tower it would be 17689m²

    • @sebastian85429
      @sebastian85429 17 днів тому +5

      they mean (28,5m)².... 28 meter squareD. understandebly this is very different from 28 square meter... i guess some writer/editor got this mixed up

    • @NSaNelydangerous
      @NSaNelydangerous 17 днів тому +4

      @@Samuel_J1 That makes more sense, it's the length of one side, not a sqm value.

  • @jayhtang
    @jayhtang 16 днів тому +2

    A 426 meter tall building has a 28.5m^2 foot print? It translate to just a sqaure that's a little over 5m x 5m. That can't be right.

  • @xvor_tex8577
    @xvor_tex8577 17 днів тому +3

    "Disregarding all the laws of physics" this is this project's perfect description.

  • @kerezol
    @kerezol 17 днів тому +9

    @03:20 432 Park Avenue 28.5 m2 footprint?? And the 2km tower 133 m2 footprint?? Oh my, how did it go through the edit like that... if feels wrong just by looking at it. And yeah, one side is about 28.5 m (footprint 28.5x28.5 = 812 m2) and so the 2 km tower would have about 133 m, each side, so footprint should be 133x133 = 17'689 m2.

  • @koaschten
    @koaschten 17 днів тому +13

    7:30
    cable elevators won't cut it in a 2000 m high rise building. No word about about options like the Thyssen Krupp "vertical magnetic levitation elevator" which they call "MULTI" ? Bonus, it can not only move vertically but also horizontally, so you have a vertical shaft and when you reach your level you take the exit to a parking position and leave the cabin. Bsically dozens of autonomous cabins zipping though the building. They go at a targeted speed of 6m/s sp 2000m in about 5min 30sec, but passengers will have access to a cabin every 15 to 30 seconds.

  • @papendiayediouf5166
    @papendiayediouf5166 15 днів тому

    1:50, the way he scaled the size of the project was smooth...

  • @katherandefy
    @katherandefy 17 днів тому

    Thanks for the Fred summaries throughout with expert indepths.

  • @fuzzylon
    @fuzzylon 17 днів тому +10

    I think there needs to be a follow up video - Experts explain why certain rulers, governments, etc. feel a need to build a tallest building just for the sake of being tall - when there's no practical need for it nor for the accomodation and facilities such a building brings.

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht 17 днів тому +2

      I brings investment and diversifies the economy. Its that simple.
      they are building a lot of stuff besides the big cold projects that get attenton.

    • @GeekyMedia
      @GeekyMedia 16 днів тому

      They usually go more into context of video topics on their podcast

  • @Amm17ar
    @Amm17ar 17 днів тому +6

    This was awesome guys. You guys already put out insanely high quality content....but this was perfect. Its always nice to hear professionals in the field giving their opinion on the feasibility and possibilities of projects around the world. Always gives us a very unique point of view of the challenges and techniques. Also having a bit of a sneak peak into how some great minds would go about getting something like this built. Really unique and fascinating work. Would love to see more of these two and/or others sprinkled in every now and then on new and proposed infrastructure and projects. Im not a very smart person so I love hearing people a lot smarter than me dumb it down and simplify it. Either way, I love hearing people who know a bunch about their field and love what they do. It really shows, and it always fascinates me. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @NoBSTravelChannel
    @NoBSTravelChannel 10 днів тому

    We need a series on how skyscraper / building is built from start to finish. I want to see the differences between architects and engineers and who exactly designs what etc.

  • @dariusz.9119
    @dariusz.9119 17 днів тому

    i LOVE this episode. It's always interesting to see how professionals brainstorm different concepts

  • @krisstopher8259
    @krisstopher8259 17 днів тому +12

    I designed a hypertall in 15 minutes using an X shape and 9 interconnected skyscrapers starting from lower thinner ones on the edges and then increasing the height by 100% and the width by 30%. Two rows of them x4 wings excluding the central and most robust tower in the middle. There are two interconnections (30% of the total height, then 60% and the tower in the middle is maximum elevation. I'm really drunk but i've been designing skyscrapers for fun since 2000, lol. It's an accurate 3D sketch but i can't really show it cause youtube sux

    • @velisvideos6208
      @velisvideos6208 17 днів тому +4

      X shape? Sell it to Musk.

    • @Zebra_M
      @Zebra_M 17 днів тому +7

      I designed one too, by skipping the first 1.98 kilometers I was able to drastically simplify the design. Getting it up there and making it stay there without anything underneath will be a challenge, but I'll leave that up to the construction teams to figure out.

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 17 днів тому +1

      So essentially using 1000 year old flying buttress technology. Good idea.

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 17 днів тому +2

      @@Zebra_Mhelium balloons. Lots of them.

  • @tobik2627
    @tobik2627 17 днів тому +3

    the footpring of 432 park avenue is 28.5 m² ? thats 5 x 5 meters? and the upscaled version with 133m² is 11 x 11m. some things wrong. one side of the square with 28,5/133m is what was meant i guess.

  • @sohovulture87
    @sohovulture87 15 днів тому +2

    '.....you're welcome...' hahahaha! Very interesting indeed. Like this format with engineer and architect hypothesising. Good stuff!

  • @jonasfermefors
    @jonasfermefors 13 днів тому

    Would it be more feasible if you build it like 432 Park Avenue at the top.. then 4x that on the nest tier down then 9x, 16x and finally 25x at the bottom which would make a base of about 150x150 meters?

  • @RajSahani-xs1yu
    @RajSahani-xs1yu 17 днів тому +134

    Thanks for keeping us updated! I feel sympathy
    and empathy for our country. low income people
    are suffering to survive, and I appreciate Deborah.
    You've helped my family with your advice. imagine
    investing $30,000 and receiving $95,460 after 28
    days of trading.

    • @matobama42
      @matobama42 17 днів тому +5

      I began investing in stocks and Def earlier
      this year, and it is the best choice l've ever
      made. My portfolio is rounding up to almost
      a million, and I have realized that when a
      stock makes it to the news. Chances are
      you're quite late to the party, the idea is to
      get in early on blue chips before it becomes
      public. There are lots of life changing
      opportunities in the market, and maximize it.

    • @martinasantacroce9715
      @martinasantacroce9715 17 днів тому +2

      What opportunities are there in the market,
      and how do l profit from it?

    • @RajSahani-xs1yu
      @RajSahani-xs1yu 17 днів тому +2

      You can make a lot of money from the
      market regardless of whether it strengthens
      or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

    • @AnnibaleRohlman
      @AnnibaleRohlman 17 днів тому +1

      I would really like to know how this actually
      works.

    • @RajSahani-xs1yu
      @RajSahani-xs1yu 17 днів тому +1

      All you need is a good capital, and the
      service of a professional broker, with those
      your investment will most certainly produce
      high yields.

  • @n3ff848
    @n3ff848 17 днів тому +4

    I wish someone would suggest the Prince to build a skyscraper to the moon, to really show of the Arabia superiority. I mean why settle with the Line horizontally, when you can have a VERTICALLY line?!

  • @senju2024
    @senju2024 15 днів тому

    Now this was very educational for me. Thank you so much! Great Job!!!

  • @ThexBorg
    @ThexBorg 13 днів тому

    Wind sheer is the biggest challenge, but don't forget the thinning atmosphere above 1km. There may be some air pressure differentials above 1000 metres.
    It could be on a rotating base and shaped like a fin and the tower rotates based on wind direction.
    If fixed, the basement would need to be about 1/4 -> 1/3 the height.

  • @MatroX67
    @MatroX67 17 днів тому +7

    didn't know Andy Serkis was an architekt

  • @MeretrixTricks
    @MeretrixTricks 17 днів тому +3

    Mr handsome architect Vini Gaio can redesign my basement whenever he wants. I don't even want to see blueprints, please surprise me.

  • @brianmclean6293
    @brianmclean6293 16 днів тому

    The idea to make this video was great! Neat to see educated people working on an interesting problem, thanks!

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum 16 днів тому +1

    I agree that any building that tall is going to need to rewrite the rules regarding looks. I don't think it can be a tall, slender tower like we are used to--at least not without some significant material breakthroughs.

  • @prxzmsAU
    @prxzmsAU 17 днів тому +3

    if this ever actually gets made, you know that ill be yapping about this all the time

  • @jieth_
    @jieth_ 17 днів тому +6

    name of 2km tall building/tower ?

  • @Crabman_87
    @Crabman_87 17 днів тому +2

    Can we get another video on high rise plumbing, on the sewer side of things? I can't come to grips with my doo-doo freefalling the entire 500m or does it and there is a massive sump/pit that it falls into with a liquid level maintained in it.....

  • @underthebluesky92
    @underthebluesky92 13 днів тому +1

    Imagine the lift ride, imagine the sway on the top floor, a new twist on a thrill sport building.

  • @georgeblackwell2306
    @georgeblackwell2306 17 днів тому +10

    What exactly are they smoking when they come up with these projects?

  • @MisterMotel
    @MisterMotel 17 днів тому +5

    Nothing to explain because it will never work. just like NEOM, the line the palm islands etc etc.

    • @donelmediterraneo8626
      @donelmediterraneo8626 17 днів тому

      Actually everything that has been made in Dubai works : Palm Jumeirah, Burj al-Arab, Burj Khalifah
      It's the saudis who're announcing crazy non-sense projects just to catch-up what UAE did 20 years ago

  • @drgeoffangel5422
    @drgeoffangel5422 13 днів тому +2

    As a retired mechanical engineer, here's my thoughts on a structure that is so high, and thus so massive. I am not a civil engineer, but I would have thought that for such a structure to be built, it would need a foundation, at least a quarter of the total height, below the surface, perhaps even equal to a third of the total height. That would mean digging a huge hole down into the bedrock, which in itself could be a huge engineering structure. Of course, the building could be stablised like tall radio masks with " guy" rods coming down from the structure from various heights, and that would mean that the foundations, would not need to be so deep. The biggest problem for any structure so tall, is the mass, and thus the compressive stress at the foundations. One could envisigage a structure, that has cast iron at the foundations, up to a certain level, then steel, then an aluminium monocoque structure, there on up to the top. For stability, the width to height ratio has to be just right, and thus the foundations would have to cover a huge area, akin to the Effiel Tower. Maybe, they just scale up the Effiel tower design, with material adjustments for mass and stress, because that structure, has done pretty well so far. Can it be done, yes of course, when money, and sense is no object! But whoever designs it, will need to know what they are doing, especially when it comes to identifying all the possible loading conditions. Once it is built, the real practical problems start, like emergency staircases, you walk a freakin 2Km down, or up, if the lifts dont work!

  • @bartekd9885
    @bartekd9885 16 днів тому

    That's a second time I've heard of Arup at this channel. Seems like some hi-skilled engineering company and the guys here are really explaining stuff pretty nice. Would be great if you'd do a video about that company.

  • @forretresss
    @forretresss 17 днів тому +28

    Neom Line FAILED ❌ Jeddah Tower FAILED ❌ 2km Tower FAILED ❌

  • @user-wx2fp9cm3i
    @user-wx2fp9cm3i 17 днів тому +15

    hehe they cant even build the 170 km of the line and now they wanna do this hahaha

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому

      Yep…

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 17 днів тому

      Jealous americans never disappoint with their comments

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana 17 днів тому

      Its 85x smaller, surely they can make this one. Right? 🤣

    • @KatoombaTourGuide
      @KatoombaTourGuide 17 днів тому +1

      @@rafael_lanabut this time it’s a line up

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 17 днів тому +4

      Muricans try not to be jealous of better countries challenge impossible

  • @derHutschi
    @derHutschi 17 днів тому +1

    @3:30 do you mean a square of 28.5 metres side length, 28.5 square metres or 28.5 million square feet?

  • @0li_vi_er
    @0li_vi_er 15 днів тому +2

    3:30 It's not 28.5 m², but rather 28.5×28.5 m, otherwise the sides would be 5.34 m long...
    28.5×28.5 = 812.25 m²

  • @DogmaFaucet
    @DogmaFaucet 17 днів тому

    Another interesting idea would be a hollow structure like the Luxor, but stretched up to 2km in height. Probably the sides would not be flat, but some curve reflecting the geometric increase in vertical loading toward the base. The floor plans would probably be closer to round. Even hollow. that would still be an incredible enclosed volume.
    At that height, you can imagine some interesting uses of pressure and temperature differences at different elevations.
    I look forward to hearing more about this project, though I'm afraid it will be little more than a cable-stabilized observation tower of a vanity project.

  • @iRiShNFT
    @iRiShNFT 13 днів тому

    Great work , I wouldn't be surprised if they did use some of your ideas. Great episode.

  • @TheLarsPlay
    @TheLarsPlay 17 днів тому +7

    Dude. I am in Norway. Wtf is this "it's half a central park long" explaination. Almost no one has ever been in Central Park.
    Does it weigh 8 billion watermelons and use 58000 electrical lawnmowers worth of power?

    • @darrylstark9259
      @darrylstark9259 17 днів тому +3

      It's to make it understandable to Americans. They don't know what 2km is, so it was a toss up between fractions of Central Parks or multiples of Statue of Liberty.

    • @danielkrcmar5395
      @danielkrcmar5395 17 днів тому +3

      Everybody knows about Central Park though even if they've never been.

    • @cristoferomezzatesta2992
      @cristoferomezzatesta2992 17 днів тому +1

      In Australia we say the building has the volume of 17 Sydney harbour’s.

    • @666LonesomeSailor
      @666LonesomeSailor 16 днів тому

      @@danielkrcmar5395What a bbs. I knew what central park is, but not much more.... okay, today I´ve learned, that it is 4Kilometers long, but for what? I won´t go to "How to become a millionaire" nore it is usefull for my life. Central park wasn´t and isn´t in my view of interesst. ^^

    • @hypertectonics7009
      @hypertectonics7009 13 днів тому

      Better than football fields. The choice of Central Park was good because they also wanted to compare it to the skyscrapers in Manhattan.