The difference is noticeable, I went from a Ryzen 5 5600g (OC) and tried Ryzen 9 5900x, Ryzen 7 5800x3d and Ryzen 7 5700x3d...the one that has more sense is the Ryzen 7 5700x3d for gains. Some games use less 3d cache and improvements are not so noticeable. After Ryzen 9000 out and being a total disappointment is just common sense to pair your AM4 system to almost Zen 4 generation with a Ryzen 7 5700x3d or wait for the Ryzen 7 7600x3d and pay 250-280 for it. The upgrade is still very expensive while Zen 4-5 Motherboards are ultra priced...not worth it. Long live to AM4 best chip ever invented.
Hola, con que GPU lo emparejaste?. Estoy evaluando pasar del r5 5600 al 5700x3d con una 3090 y nose si tendre mejoras significativas en cuanto a rendimiento en juegos
@@ilmanja4773 En algunos juegos vas a encontrar diferencias significativas, al menos de un 30%; en otros juegos mas refinados la diferencia puede ser minima de 3-4 FPS. Todavía estoy con la misma RX 6750xt, que estoy a punto de vender y pasar a una RX 7900 gre o a la rtx 4070 Super ti... la version de la GRE Red Devil viene como anillo al dedo a mi actual setup, todavía faltan meses para el viernes negro y aun falta la salida de la nueva generación de AMD. Con la 3090 vas a estar mas que bien a 1440p y ni se diga a 1080.
@@braketen i received it like an hours ago, i just installed it. I'm on rust rn and i have at least 1/3 more fps if not double. 5600x --> 5700x3d with 6700xt 32go of ram
@@doubledragon5920 the 1080p performance is definitely better with the 5800x3d but 2k not so much. Personally I will wait to upgrade to AM5 platform and DDR5
@@doubledragon5920 if you arent going to upgrade to am5 in the future its worth it. It also depends a lot on what you play, you would probobly see bigger inprovment on fps games.
@@doubledragon5920 i just got it and i think it is, no need to upgrade ever again on am4 for only $200. we can wait for the next platform for a long while. so yeah only 200? worth it imo
@@WaltDEM I've definitely seen improvements in lows and much better average fps between my old 5600x and 5700x3d, around 15-20% increase. But I'm playing at 1080p so can't say for bigger res. I've got mine from amazon for £207
@@ggrlmon thx, I play on 1440p, so not so much difference but could also use some more cpu power for my programs. If there's no deal on Amazon I'll get it from Ali lol
Hei same here 5600x and 6750xt 1440p ultrawide. I mostly play RPGs. It works well with FSR. My thought is to combine the R7 5700x3d with the 7900xt in a year or two when 8000 series is on the market and prices drop even further.
@dominikwinzer2767 same here, I don't have any plans to go to am5 so I just got my 5700x3d to go with my 6750xt. Definitely going to upgrade to a better gpu in the next gen
Rocking a 5600X with a 2080TI atm. At 1440p all on max the 0.1% lows are pretty bad. Would upgrading to the 5700x3d help here? I dont really think so as the cpu is at 70% ish percent load when playing but maybe im wrong.
Nice, but I think you should test Apex with a map benchmark. Just gen into a BR game and stay in the dropship looking down at the map. That is the true benchmark of apex.
@@D4VVVVV A 6700 is a reasonably powerful card still... I have a 6800xt paired with a 5600x and my cpu massively bottlenecks my gpu. I'd say the upgrade is worth it for myself and can safely say it is for him as well
@@xdfishtsu"Massively" bottlenecked? 🤨 You sure about that bro? I run a 5600x with a 4070 and it's a great combo at 1440p. There's a little bit of a bottleneck but "massively" is a very poor choice of words.
@@unnamed715 For CPU bound games it severely bottlenecked my GPU. I nearly double my FPS on Rust alone, around 90 on average to 170+, and has stabilized my FPS across all games. Plus in raw performance the 6800xt outperforms the 4070 not by a lot but a better CPU will help squeeze a few more frames out of it. My bottleneck was something like 9% in CPU intensive games, anything above 5% is a major bottleneck, and with my new CPU is down to around 2%
Just bought a clean used 5700x3Df or $140 to replace the 5700x that I sold for $120. It's in my garage PC and super overkill especially playing on a 60hz panel, vsync on with a GTX1080. 5700X3D w/ Thermalright Silver Soul 110 w/ 3 fans B550 Gigabyte DS3H 32gb Crucial 3200mhz C16 Dual Rank GTX1080 Gigabyte Gaming OC Samsung 250gb SSD Boot Adata XPG SX8200 1TB 3 way spanned Intel SSD's 800gb Corsair CX600 power supply Corsair Airflow 240 case 25" LG Ultrawide 2560x1080p 60hz 4 Yamaha 3 way book shelf speakers on a old Yamaha receiver @ 4ohms It streams and browses the net just fine. Play some controller focused games on it. Many of the parts were hand me downs.
I have pubg benchmark in the original video's for the R5 5600X and R7 5700X3D with RTX 4090 (R7 5700X3D will be uploaded within a week). I can't compare PUBG in these vids as PUBG doesn't have a function to choose the same map, which sometimes takes 20 rounds to get to the map I want to use.
@@hardwaretested2795 please when u test pubg use esport settings, everything very low except textures at meduim, with the DX11 enhanced option, thanks a lot
Yeah 5600x deffo can, i upgraded my 2060 to 4070 super and have 5600x, so far played cyberpunk (ultra RT) an starfield (ultra) 1080p and not had any issues, was lookin to upgrade my 5600x as upgraded everythint else hence why here but not sure if need to now
I would consider the ryzen 5600x. If you go over that you won’t get any additional performance, it will just bottleneck it. So the 5600x will suit it best with the 4060
I’d definitely lean towards the 5700x non-3d at least. It’s like $40 more and you go from 6 cores to 8 cores. Those extra 2 cores give you some headroom in case you have other programs open while gaming or games like cod that typically utilize more cpu
Why the fuck is your 5600x which has a tdp of 65w using more power than a 5700x3d which has a tdp of 105w, your 5600x was reaching 78w which is absurd, I have one and it never goes above 60w usage.
as far as i know, there is another power limit that goes above the 65w tdp. source: i have seen my 5600g use 80w during a prime95 test. it could also be some monitoring issue
I'm just not that impressed with the 5700 X3D. If I can play at 1440p, medium settings, 100+ fps . . . I'm pretty happy. Either of these CPUs will do that, providing I have a powerful enough GPU. . . . . which I don't 😥
Literally this. People put way too much importance on "BoTtLeNeCk" when they don't even understand what it means most of the time. Just tweak a few settings and it'll be fine, but no, if everything isn't maxed out to ultra it will just not do for these elitists. 🙄
@@unnamed715 I think it's because some of us spend a lot of money on our cards expecting to be able to crank the settings to the maximum and not bother tweaking a bunch of crap just so the game would be actually playable.
why such high settings for e sport titles like wz2 at 1080p/1440p? mine 12400f with an 6900xt outperform these results because of the high settings in wz, and those fps are in a building as well..
Well it could be that your AMD card is out before I mean the 4090 I heard that call of duty nowadays favors AMD but it wasn't always like that at the beginning of the original war zone AMD was heavily behind because of their driver problem in performance I read somewhere that the 7900 XTX can get 500 FPS in call of duty beating the 4090 but that's one of the rare cases where the 4090 gets beat but it's still it's a popular title and I wouldn't really say call of duty is a esports title though esports would be more like OverWatch or Counter-Strike were the FPS is much higher that you can hit a lot of modern monitors Max FPS limits
If you play cpu intensive games then the 5700x3d will greatly boost your fps. Else just save for a better gpu, the ryzen 5 5600 is still highly capable for most games.
Oh my God! This is what I was looking for ^.^ I play Apex legends and I was wondering which Cpu is suitable to that game, and I had checked some benchs on UA-cam and what I found was there's not much difference between 5600x and 5700x3d in Apex legends, given that 5700x and 5700x3d bench had showed almost no difference in a video. so I was kind of sad thinking that maybe Apex is not a game affected by the 3d cache, although I eventually bought 5700x3d which is now currently being delivered ^ㅅ^. But in your video, I can find solid evidence that the 1% low and 0.1% low have huge gap in 1440p. Even though I am not sure why some other videos couldn't represent this difference and why those results are not consistent, at least I can find my hope about buying 5700x3d rather than 5600x. I feel like my decision is justified :) Thank you so much. (my gpu is 3070 so maybe I cannot get much difference like yours? and I am sad to 0.1% low of 5700x3d, compared to 5600x it intermittently shows lower 0.1% ... I guess it's because of the low frequency level?)
I have both the 5600 and 5700x3d and the 1.0% lows feel terrible with the 5600, it can't keep up with my 7900 gre at 1440p. The 5700x3d has fixed all the short comings of my 5600 and keeps everything stable and smooth!
My 5600x is fast because I have it paired with 3733 cl16 tweaked ram. So My cpu is basically faster than your 5600x by about 5-10%. BUT, for some reason in r6 I literally have 150fps less than you. Same benchmark, same settings, cpu bottleneck, (gpu is chilling) and I am barely getting 200fps. Can anyone tell me why? Same thing with dx11 and dx12.
Red, this is likely because as the graphics were increased more of the games rendering workload was moved to the GPU, and the GPU is a very high end RTX 4090, whilst the cpu tested here is a mid range 5700x3d. I hope I explained that well.
Disculpa. El juego te iba lageado o es mi internet que reproduce el video asi. Por ejemplo vi a fortnite y siempre iba como lageado en ambos videos?. Y si vale la pena dejar al ,5600x por el 5700x3D o me voy por 7 5800x? Que opinas amigo?.
@@Mathster_live the "cheaper" part hardly applies to be honest. You can get a 4060 for $250 and game comfortably at 1440p. Plus, 1080p is heavily cpu-bound, so you're better off going 1440p. The "casual gamer" argument isn't really good either, since most people who are still running 1080p do it on high refresh rate monitors for competitive gaming.
@@omulamfibie well, the funny thing about your "it's not a good argument" excuse is that numbers don't lie, in the recent steam hardware survey, 55% of steam users are still on 1080p and the most popular gpus are 1080p cards and sure the 4060 "can" game in 1440p but to expect someone min maxing fps and performance to go 1440p over 1080p for that extra screen real state is just dishonest. Infact most 1080p monitors are TVs and are @60fps, the casual audience who just have a monitor lying around or are buying used and are even buying it brand new because it's objectively cheaper, are the majority. I don't understand why people like you like to pretend that 1080p is such a huge detriment to your experience when objectively based on data, most people are still on it and are contented. It's beyond me that you can be this ignorant to reality lol
@@Mathster_live you wrote all that just to totally miss my fucking point. I can see your basic understanding of the english language is lacking. My remark was solely made to question why people would still go for 1080p on new builds. You babbled a fucking crapton of words just to basically say "but steam shows there are over 50% of users are still on 1080p". Well, that wasn't my fucking point, you dumb fuck. My point was "why would you still build a system on 1080p when you can do a cheap system for 1440p". But your fucking bird brain could not comprehend that and went on a fucking long ass rant on "objective data". My objective data says you're a sad fuck.
not only 5600 has more power draw, but also has more clock mhz, that 5600 its sooo OC. And the 5700x3d its chilling and having the same fps. How are you using 75w on the 5600x if your video description says its 65tdp ?
Depending on the games you play and whether gpu is already pretty much maxed out. But it looks like you can get 10-20% improvement for cpu intensive games at 1440p. Do you already have a really powerful gpu? I feel most of the time for gaming, if you have to choose between a cpu/gpu upgrade, gpu is the way to go 😂
@@corny17I have an aorus 3080 Xtreme. CPU I was thinking Ryzen 7 5800x3d but to save some money the 5 5600x3D. 16 percent bottleneck with the 56 and nothing with the 58 but double the price.
@@mikerhodes9337 i think it depends on what your spending habits are usually like.. If you intend to get a lil upgrade and use it for a couple more years, I'd suggest the 5800x3d. you could also look into 5700x3d. I think you could save about 100 bucks there. You might consider waiting for another month or so to see what the ryzen 9000 series will be like. Then maybe you could go with that.. or ryzen 5000 series should have a bit more of a price drop too.
Eventually it will be, so if you don't have any plans on upgrading to AM5 you should buy this CPU because the 5800x3d is more expensive, in my country it's $120 more, while performing barely any better. The good thing about this CPU is not just the FPS increase but the overhead it has, so the 5600x might be using 90% of it's performance while the 5700x3d is using 70% due to increase in cores/ threads.
I turned on auto overclocking and my 5700x hits 4.45 all core and 4.75 boost on Asus prime pro x570 board with 4000mts ram c16/16/18/32 edit: My cpu hits 150 watts so I added a Thermalright PS120SE with 7 heatpipes two fans and temps sit at 73c max but without that using normal small AMD heatsink it thermal throttled
I want to get a 5700x3d, I see that rust gets almost double the FPS and wouldn’t want to get a 7800x3d because I’d have to spend over $700 in cpu mobo psu ram, etc Worth getting to upgrade my 5600x for Competitive FPS games? I run it with a rx 6800 non xt at 1080p 240hz For a better perspective the games I mainly play are Rust, Overwatch FC 24, and some other heavy titles other than VR games.
Your current configuration is perfect. There might be a tiny bottleneck but nothing major enough to warrant an upgrade. I would only upgrade to the 5700x3d if you plan on upgrading your gpu. The 5600x can even handle up to a 4070 ti so there’s really no need to upgrade unless you are experiencing stuttering.
@@Untitled_07 I do experience stuttering, and i most cases both my CPU/GPU are below 50% which sucks bad time so I upgrades, will have to wait for it to arrive and see how it goes now, was able to snatch one for $187
@@YSN_ee Do it, very worth, my FPS doubled in most games that I play and has lower usage % and wattage, undervolted it with PBO Tuner2 at -30 mV and it’s perfect for me. Might look to upgrade my GPU now tho haha
From what I'm seeing some games 20 fps increase I have a 5600x right now I'm planning to make the upgrade to the 5700x3D because I would like my games to run smooth even when I alt tab to discord
Yes let's see how pubg works on both setups and put a conclusion to better understand. Btw where is the bottleneck on 1080p with 5600x? On 30fps+ for 5700x3d? For how much $?
Well, it's obvious the 5600x is not powerful enough to perform with a 4090, as the GPU uage is at 95%+ with the 5700x3D, unlike the 80/85% with the 5600x. So yes, fps are better ! It would be more interesting to compare 5700x and 5700x3D, for the power and clocks differences essentially
apex has a hard cap of 300fps, even when using +fps_max 0 or +fps_max 500. though i feel that a better way to showcase apex legends should be in a BR or mixtape mode, the firing range is very easy to hit the hard cap.
La combinazione di una CPU come il Ryzen 5 5600X con una GPU di fascia alta come la RTX 4090 può essere utile per: Analizzare le Prestazioni della CPU: Quando si utilizza una GPU molto potente, il test si concentra sui limiti e sulle capacità della CPU, perché la GPU non sarà il collo di bottiglia. Test in Full HD (1080p): A risoluzioni più basse, le prestazioni di gioco dipendono più dalla CPU. Questo consente di valutare quanti FPS la CPU può fornire senza essere limitata dalla GPU. Pianificare Aggiornamenti Futuri: Capire come una CPU di fascia media si comporta con una GPU di ultima generazione aiuta a pianificare se e quando sarà necessario un upgrade della CPU.
if you play in 1080p you can see the performance difference much more in the higher fps games, and he is removing the GPU bottleneck with a 4090 so we can see how the CPUs perform better.
@@Alemegam hahaha a me non serve un test del genere per capire se la mia CPU deve essere cambiata! Comunque se lo dite voi e siete contenti cosi ok! Buona fortuna!
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➤ Warzone 3 1080p: 0:00
➤ Warzone 3 1440p: 0:29
➤ Warzone 3 4k: 0:51
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➤ Warzone 3 DLSS Quality 1440p: 1:45
➤ Warzone 3 DLSS Quality 4k: 2:07
➤ Forza Horizon 5 1080p: 2:29
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➤ Cyberpunk 2077 1080p: 3:42
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➤ Apex Legends 1080p: 4:51
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➤ Rainbow Six Siege 1080p: 6:00
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The difference is noticeable, I went from a Ryzen 5 5600g (OC) and tried Ryzen 9 5900x, Ryzen 7 5800x3d and Ryzen 7 5700x3d...the one that has more sense is the Ryzen 7 5700x3d for gains. Some games use less 3d cache and improvements are not so noticeable. After Ryzen 9000 out and being a total disappointment is just common sense to pair your AM4 system to almost Zen 4 generation with a Ryzen 7 5700x3d or wait for the Ryzen 7 7600x3d and pay 250-280 for it. The upgrade is still very expensive while Zen 4-5 Motherboards are ultra priced...not worth it. Long live to AM4 best chip ever invented.
Hola, con que GPU lo emparejaste?. Estoy evaluando pasar del r5 5600 al 5700x3d con una 3090 y nose si tendre mejoras significativas en cuanto a rendimiento en juegos
@@ilmanja4773 En algunos juegos vas a encontrar diferencias significativas, al menos de un 30%; en otros juegos mas refinados la diferencia puede ser minima de 3-4 FPS. Todavía estoy con la misma RX 6750xt, que estoy a punto de vender y pasar a una RX 7900 gre o a la rtx 4070 Super ti... la version de la GRE Red Devil viene como anillo al dedo a mi actual setup, todavía faltan meses para el viernes negro y aun falta la salida de la nueva generación de AMD. Con la 3090 vas a estar mas que bien a 1440p y ni se diga a 1080.
yep i am going for a r7 5700X3D with my 6650XT
love that you included rust, main reason why i'd be looking for this upgrade
same
quit while you can bro, horrible game that ruins you fr
did you buy it , if so was it worth and what gpu do u have?
@@braketen i received it like an hours ago, i just installed it. I'm on rust rn and i have at least 1/3 more fps if not double. 5600x --> 5700x3d with 6700xt 32go of ram
I did upgrade to the 5700x3d paired with the 4070 Super. It's been a beast of a combo. The 5700x3d was on sale for like $185 at one point on Amazon.
That's a bitchin rig nice job 👍
I got one for $170 from china. Paired it with my 7800xt. So far so good.
I just picked one up for 153 brand new off aliexpress. Havent installed it yet, might today though. pairing with a 6800xt
@@craciunator99 You're set!
I'm thinking of upgrading to a 5700x3d from 5600x, but my ram is 3000mhz cl16 so not sure if I should or just upgrade to AM5 at some point later
Upgraded from 5600 to 5700x3d and my City Skylines no longer has stutters 😂 way way waayyy smoother now. Glad I made the jump.
Just got my 5700x3d today! Cant wait to put it in after work😮💨.
This was helpful for me, thank you.
I've got the 5600x and 7800xt, thanks for this vid. Not worth upgrading in my opinion.
@SilkKuts@ I have a similar 5600x and 7800xt 2K monitor system, is 5800x3d worth considering?
@@doubledragon5920 the 1080p performance is definitely better with the 5800x3d but 2k not so much.
Personally I will wait to upgrade to AM5 platform and DDR5
@@doubledragon5920 if you arent going to upgrade to am5 in the future its worth it. It also depends a lot on what you play, you would probobly see bigger inprovment on fps games.
@@doubledragon5920 i just got it and i think it is, no need to upgrade ever again on am4 for only $200. we can wait for the next platform for a long while. so yeah only 200? worth it imo
To think you can upgrade from a 1700 to a 5700x3d on the same platform is wild
Agreed. AMD did a very good job with their AM4 platform.
Good comparison thank you just check the timestamps in the list are wrong for some games.
You're right, will change it now! :)
Большое спасибо! Жаль карта 4090, а не условная 4080, но ваш тест лучший и пока что единственный🤝
He needs the strongest gpu to minimize interference with 1080p performance, which is the only test people should be looking at when comparing CPUs.
I’m going from a 5600x to a 5700x3d today! I have it paired with a RX 6950xt
I also bought a 5700x3d today to upgrade my 5600x :D Any improvements noticed?
@@ggrlmon Am also getting one soon... Not sure if I should but pretty convinced by now, hopefully there's a good sale during Prime day.
I'm itching to replace my 5600 and pair it up with my 6900 XT, also waiting for a deal. Did you notice a difference in the lows?
@@WaltDEM I've definitely seen improvements in lows and much better average fps between my old 5600x and 5700x3d, around 15-20% increase. But I'm playing at 1080p so can't say for bigger res. I've got mine from amazon for £207
@@ggrlmon thx, I play on 1440p, so not so much difference but could also use some more cpu power for my programs. If there's no deal on Amazon I'll get it from Ali lol
upgrade from 5600x to 5700x3d, or wait 2-3 and upgrade to am5 with like a 7800x3d?
Thanks for the video, i using R5 5600x with RX 6700xt 1440p gaming, still thinking to upgrade cpu when got opportunity
Hei same here 5600x and 6750xt 1440p ultrawide. I mostly play RPGs. It works well with FSR. My thought is to combine the R7 5700x3d with the 7900xt in a year or two when 8000 series is on the market and prices drop even further.
@dominikwinzer2767 same here, I don't have any plans to go to am5 so I just got my 5700x3d to go with my 6750xt. Definitely going to upgrade to a better gpu in the next gen
@@Nerrozi yep same, ill upgrade my cpu in advance to prepare for when i upgrade my 3070 to a 5070
Rocking a 5600X with a 2080TI atm. At 1440p all on max the 0.1% lows are pretty bad. Would upgrading to the 5700x3d help here? I dont really think so as the cpu is at 70% ish percent load when playing but maybe im wrong.
you've literally got the same combo as me but ive only got a 1080 p monitor hoping to change soon
Nice, but I think you should test Apex with a map benchmark. Just gen into a BR game and stay in the dropship looking down at the map. That is the true benchmark of apex.
i have 5600x and rx 6700 10gb version, worth upgrading cpu for 5700x3d for 200euros?
keep the 200 bucks for a gpu upgrade brother, especially if you play in 1440p
Depends on what you play
@@D4VVVVV A 6700 is a reasonably powerful card still... I have a 6800xt paired with a 5600x and my cpu massively bottlenecks my gpu. I'd say the upgrade is worth it for myself and can safely say it is for him as well
@@xdfishtsu"Massively" bottlenecked? 🤨 You sure about that bro? I run a 5600x with a 4070 and it's a great combo at 1440p. There's a little bit of a bottleneck but "massively" is a very poor choice of words.
@@unnamed715 For CPU bound games it severely bottlenecked my GPU. I nearly double my FPS on Rust alone, around 90 on average to 170+, and has stabilized my FPS across all games. Plus in raw performance the 6800xt outperforms the 4070 not by a lot but a better CPU will help squeeze a few more frames out of it. My bottleneck was something like 9% in CPU intensive games, anything above 5% is a major bottleneck, and with my new CPU is down to around 2%
What kind of case do you have?
Just the motherboard box, so open air bench
Just bought a clean used 5700x3Df or $140 to replace the 5700x that I sold for $120. It's in my garage PC and super overkill especially playing on a 60hz panel, vsync on with a GTX1080.
5700X3D w/ Thermalright Silver Soul 110 w/ 3 fans
B550 Gigabyte DS3H
32gb Crucial 3200mhz C16 Dual Rank
GTX1080 Gigabyte Gaming OC
Samsung 250gb SSD Boot
Adata XPG SX8200 1TB
3 way spanned Intel SSD's 800gb
Corsair CX600 power supply
Corsair Airflow 240 case
25" LG Ultrawide 2560x1080p 60hz
4 Yamaha 3 way book shelf speakers on a old Yamaha receiver @ 4ohms
It streams and browses the net just fine. Play some controller focused games on it. Many of the parts were hand me downs.
moment you upgrade that gpu and monitor ur gonna go crazy
Well I think I'll keep my 5600x for now, neither the 13600k nor the 57003d are worth it.
ryzen 7 5700x3d is pretty much worth its price
Yeah, it's not exactly clear across the board that the 5700x3d is worth the cost. I went from 3600 to 5600x and yeah massive difference.
@@brianeno608 I did the same. Don't feel like spending more $$$ on another CPU. Especially when looking to upgrade from a RTX2070 to a RX7900xt.
warzone is tested only in 1440p and 4k he never changed resolution to 1080p
I hope you will consider to include PUBG next benchmark.
I have pubg benchmark in the original video's for the R5 5600X and R7 5700X3D with RTX 4090 (R7 5700X3D will be uploaded within a week). I can't compare PUBG in these vids as PUBG doesn't have a function to choose the same map, which sometimes takes 20 rounds to get to the map I want to use.
@@hardwaretested2795 PUBG has replays. Just click on "Career" then "Replays".
You can on normal mode
@@hardwaretested2795 please when u test pubg use esport settings, everything very low except textures at meduim, with the DX11 enhanced option, thanks a lot
@@hardwaretested2795you benchmark pubg by playing a replay file so the workload is identical
This is a scam and a half , in the menu first game says 4060 then in game 4090 , next game it says 4070 then in game 4090. Explain....
I have 5600x and RTX 3060. Wanted to upgrade to a RTX 4070 super and was wondering if the CPU could handle it (mainly 1080p gaming)
Yeah 5600x deffo can, i upgraded my 2060 to 4070 super and have 5600x, so far played cyberpunk (ultra RT) an starfield (ultra) 1080p and not had any issues, was lookin to upgrade my 5600x as upgraded everythint else hence why here but not sure if need to now
@@CryptoForexTrading1 That's great to know, I'll still upgrade but until then I want to know if I'm good
Also going from 3060ti to 4070 Super but will keep my 5600x.
i had a 5600x and a 3070, i upgraded to a 5700x3d when it was on sale to prepare for when i get a 5070 when it comes out
@@s4yto I wanted to get the same CPU, should be a good upgrade right? I don't wanna spend money on a AM5 mobo yet
I have a Ryzen 3600 paired with the RTX 4060. Which one would you recommend?
The 5600x or the 5700x3D?
I would consider the ryzen 5600x. If you go over that you won’t get any additional performance, it will just bottleneck it. So the 5600x will suit it best with the 4060
I’d definitely lean towards the 5700x non-3d at least. It’s like $40 more and you go from 6 cores to 8 cores. Those extra 2 cores give you some headroom in case you have other programs open while gaming or games like cod that typically utilize more cpu
@@DaceFPS I am planning for the 5700X3D as my main game is cs2 and the 3D works the best with cs2 because of its higher L3 cache
Go for 5700x3d more cores longer longevity, it is future PROFF
@@Gnocke went w the 5700x3d. Happy with the performance boost especially in cs2
thanks dude , a play Naraka Bladepoint 1080p , thx again
Any difference?
Why the fuck is your 5600x which has a tdp of 65w using more power than a 5700x3d which has a tdp of 105w, your 5600x was reaching 78w which is absurd, I have one and it never goes above 60w usage.
as far as i know, there is another power limit that goes above the 65w tdp. source: i have seen my 5600g use 80w during a prime95 test. it could also be some monitoring issue
Мой 5600x под бустом, потребляет 105 VAT, не знаю почему у тебя 75. И кстати судя с видео можно сказать что 5600x не раскрыт на максимум
my 5600x uses 75w at high load
Because with a curve optimizer you can do 4650Ghz in all cores. So the power consumption is higher that the default settings.
why is the 5700x3d hotter despite using less power than the 5600x?
the 3D v-cache layer makes the chip a bit hotter as a whole
why make the fps so small why wouldn't you throw on an easy overlay showing it below like normal people,. who wants to waste time with this ?
have ryzen 5 5600x with ge force 4700 super. Should i buy 5700x3d or i wasting my money?
waste of your money bro
@@4sv_xd_edit i read that it's better and improve performance
@@luciofire83 overall way better 1% lows for ~4% more performance, if you hate stutters go for it
I'm just not that impressed with the 5700 X3D.
If I can play at 1440p, medium settings, 100+ fps . . . I'm pretty happy. Either of these CPUs will do that, providing I have a powerful enough GPU.
. . . . which I don't 😥
You cant in cpu heavy games.
@@NoKkiDuDe Yes you can, just turn down a few settings it's not that complicated.
Literally this. People put way too much importance on "BoTtLeNeCk" when they don't even understand what it means most of the time. Just tweak a few settings and it'll be fine, but no, if everything isn't maxed out to ultra it will just not do for these elitists. 🙄
@@unnamed715 lmao
@@unnamed715 I think it's because some of us spend a lot of money on our cards expecting to be able to crank the settings to the maximum and not bother tweaking a bunch of crap just so the game would be actually playable.
why such high settings for e sport titles like wz2 at 1080p/1440p? mine 12400f with an 6900xt outperform these results because of the high settings in wz, and those fps are in a building as well..
Well it could be that your AMD card is out before I mean the 4090 I heard that call of duty nowadays favors AMD but it wasn't always like that at the beginning of the original war zone AMD was heavily behind because of their driver problem in performance I read somewhere that the 7900 XTX can get 500 FPS in call of duty beating the 4090 but that's one of the rare cases where the 4090 gets beat but it's still it's a popular title and I wouldn't really say call of duty is a esports title though esports would be more like OverWatch or Counter-Strike were the FPS is much higher that you can hit a lot of modern monitors Max FPS limits
I hate those high settings benchmarks, these guys have no clue what competitive gaming means
Not everyone that plays those games uses competitive settings, i'd rather not play at all than play everything on low on any modern title.
If you play cpu intensive games then the 5700x3d will greatly boost your fps. Else just save for a better gpu, the ryzen 5 5600 is still highly capable for most games.
Oh my God! This is what I was looking for ^.^ I play Apex legends and I was wondering which Cpu is suitable to that game, and I had checked some benchs on UA-cam and what I found was there's not much difference between 5600x and 5700x3d in Apex legends, given that 5700x and 5700x3d bench had showed almost no difference in a video. so I was kind of sad thinking that maybe Apex is not a game affected by the 3d cache, although I eventually bought 5700x3d which is now currently being delivered ^ㅅ^. But in your video, I can find solid evidence that the 1% low and 0.1% low have huge gap in 1440p. Even though I am not sure why some other videos couldn't represent this difference and why those results are not consistent, at least I can find my hope about buying 5700x3d rather than 5600x. I feel like my decision is justified :) Thank you so much. (my gpu is 3070 so maybe I cannot get much difference like yours? and I am sad to 0.1% low of 5700x3d, compared to 5600x it intermittently shows lower 0.1% ... I guess it's because of the low frequency level?)
or maybe 5600x can't handle 4090? .. :(
I have both the 5600 and 5700x3d and the 1.0% lows feel terrible with the 5600, it can't keep up with my 7900 gre at 1440p. The 5700x3d has fixed all the short comings of my 5600 and keeps everything stable and smooth!
@@kalembrobert9834 Thank you so much for your informative reply!
My 5600x is fast because I have it paired with 3733 cl16 tweaked ram. So My cpu is basically faster than your 5600x by about 5-10%. BUT, for some reason in r6 I literally have 150fps less than you. Same benchmark, same settings, cpu bottleneck, (gpu is chilling) and I am barely getting 200fps. Can anyone tell me why? Same thing with dx11 and dx12.
Do you also have a 4090? Not all extra fps are cpu gained.
Why 1% LOWS INCREASED from 105 in 1080p to 135 in 4k using 5700x3d
Which game?
Red, this is likely because as the graphics were increased more of the games rendering workload was moved to the GPU, and the GPU is a very high end RTX 4090, whilst the cpu tested here is a mid range 5700x3d.
I hope I explained that well.
Disculpa. El juego te iba lageado o es mi internet que reproduce el video asi. Por ejemplo vi a fortnite y siempre iba como lageado en ambos videos?. Y si vale la pena dejar al ,5600x por el 5700x3D o me voy por 7 5800x? Que opinas amigo?.
para juegos el 5700x3d es mil veces mejor
If you include Witcher 3, use CPU heavy location, like Novigrad od Toussiant, otherwise, it's kinda pointless for testing CPUs in Witcher 3.
Why anyone still uses 1080p in this day and age is beyond me...
Simple, more fps, cheaper and is good enough especially if you're a casual gamer
@@Mathster_live the "cheaper" part hardly applies to be honest. You can get a 4060 for $250 and game comfortably at 1440p. Plus, 1080p is heavily cpu-bound, so you're better off going 1440p. The "casual gamer" argument isn't really good either, since most people who are still running 1080p do it on high refresh rate monitors for competitive gaming.
@@omulamfibie well, the funny thing about your "it's not a good argument" excuse is that numbers don't lie, in the recent steam hardware survey, 55% of steam users are still on 1080p and the most popular gpus are 1080p cards and sure the 4060 "can" game in 1440p but to expect someone min maxing fps and performance to go 1440p over 1080p for that extra screen real state is just dishonest.
Infact most 1080p monitors are TVs and are @60fps, the casual audience who just have a monitor lying around or are buying used and are even buying it brand new because it's objectively cheaper, are the majority.
I don't understand why people like you like to pretend that 1080p is such a huge detriment to your experience when objectively based on data, most people are still on it and are contented. It's beyond me that you can be this ignorant to reality lol
@@Mathster_live you wrote all that just to totally miss my fucking point. I can see your basic understanding of the english language is lacking. My remark was solely made to question why people would still go for 1080p on new builds. You babbled a fucking crapton of words just to basically say "but steam shows there are over 50% of users are still on 1080p". Well, that wasn't my fucking point, you dumb fuck. My point was "why would you still build a system on 1080p when you can do a cheap system for 1440p". But your fucking bird brain could not comprehend that and went on a fucking long ass rant on "objective data". My objective data says you're a sad fuck.
@@Mathster_live Nah, you're just dumb.
not worth it to upgrade, ill wait for 9000x3d
Change your motherboard then
Is it better to sell my 5 5600x with motherboard and ram and switch to am5 or would be it better if I bought 5700x3d?
Am5 for sure
Am4 is dead and even a 7600x keeps up with a 5800x3d often so imagine something better 7700x or a 7000x3d
@@RuanLFC dead?? lol which world do u live in? 95% of players still have am4, u are bonkers
Keep the 5600x and save your money.
@@herogamerbr12 Yeah I genuinely don't understand these people.
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1%
5600x 120fps
5700x3d 80 fps
????? 😅
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not only 5600 has more power draw, but also has more clock mhz, that 5600 its sooo OC.
And the 5700x3d its chilling and having the same fps.
How are you using 75w on the 5600x if your video description says its 65tdp ?
he overclocked it
maybe a year late when prices go lower for this cpu then it will make more sense upgrading.
So is it worth the upgrade? I'm on the fence. I'm running a 3080 1440p for reference.
Depending on the games you play and whether gpu is already pretty much maxed out. But it looks like you can get 10-20% improvement for cpu intensive games at 1440p.
Do you already have a really powerful gpu? I feel most of the time for gaming, if you have to choose between a cpu/gpu upgrade, gpu is the way to go 😂
@@corny17 for cpu bound games like fortnite. cpu is the way to go
@@corny17I have an aorus 3080 Xtreme. CPU I was thinking Ryzen 7 5800x3d but to save some money the 5 5600x3D. 16 percent bottleneck with the 56 and nothing with the 58 but double the price.
@@mikerhodes9337 i think it depends on what your spending habits are usually like.. If you intend to get a lil upgrade and use it for a couple more years, I'd suggest the 5800x3d. you could also look into 5700x3d. I think you could save about 100 bucks there. You might consider waiting for another month or so to see what the ryzen 9000 series will be like. Then maybe you could go with that.. or ryzen 5000 series should have a bit more of a price drop too.
Eventually it will be, so if you don't have any plans on upgrading to AM5 you should buy this CPU because the 5800x3d is more expensive, in my country it's $120 more, while performing barely any better. The good thing about this CPU is not just the FPS increase but the overhead it has, so the 5600x might be using 90% of it's performance while the 5700x3d is using 70% due to increase in cores/ threads.
Warzone 3???
please test battlefiled 1 😢
The difference for rust is crazy, and other competitve cpu intensive games
100fps difference only from CPU makes me speculate there is something drastically wrong with one of the tests.
Both can do above 60 fps 4k cyberpunk? Wth is real?
Of course in that resolution is gpu bound.
I turned on auto overclocking and my 5700x hits 4.45 all core and 4.75 boost on Asus prime pro x570 board with 4000mts ram c16/16/18/32 edit: My cpu hits 150 watts so I added a Thermalright PS120SE with 7 heatpipes two fans and temps sit at 73c max but without that using normal small AMD heatsink it thermal throttled
5700x or X3D?
I want to get a 5700x3d, I see that rust gets almost double the FPS and wouldn’t want to get a 7800x3d because I’d have to spend over $700 in cpu mobo psu ram, etc
Worth getting to upgrade my 5600x for Competitive FPS games? I run it with a rx 6800 non xt at 1080p 240hz
For a better perspective the games I mainly play are Rust, Overwatch FC 24, and some other heavy titles other than VR games.
Your current configuration is perfect. There might be a tiny bottleneck but nothing major enough to warrant an upgrade. I would only upgrade to the 5700x3d if you plan on upgrading your gpu. The 5600x can even handle up to a 4070 ti so there’s really no need to upgrade unless you are experiencing stuttering.
@@Untitled_07 I do experience stuttering, and i most cases both my CPU/GPU are below 50% which sucks bad time so I upgrades, will have to wait for it to arrive and see how it goes now, was able to snatch one for $187
@@croih alright man let me know how it is once it arrives.
@@croih any updates? i want to upgrade my 5 5600x too
@@YSN_ee Do it, very worth, my FPS doubled in most games that I play and has lower usage % and wattage, undervolted it with PBO Tuner2 at -30 mV and it’s perfect for me. Might look to upgrade my GPU now tho haha
So usimg a R5 3600 with a 3080 at 2k/4k it's not impressive to go with a 5700X3D instead of a 5600X☝🏻🧐
From what I'm seeing some games 20 fps increase I have a 5600x right now I'm planning to make the upgrade to the 5700x3D because I would like my games to run smooth even when I alt tab to discord
nice , 57x3d is selling usd 160 in China now
Yes let's see how pubg works on both setups and put a conclusion to better understand. Btw where is the bottleneck on 1080p with 5600x? On 30fps+ for 5700x3d? For how much $?
Include valorant next time bro
4k no worth, 1080 worth, 1440p maybe
Basically not worth for 4k
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Well, it's obvious the 5600x is not powerful enough to perform with a 4090, as the GPU uage is at 95%+ with the 5700x3D, unlike the 80/85% with the 5600x. So yes, fps are better ! It would be more interesting to compare 5700x and 5700x3D, for the power and clocks differences essentially
el r5 5600x se la banca
Les 3dv cache n apporte aucun interet
We all knew the 5700X3D is faster :)
well yes but you compare them to see the performance difference that you get for the extra money you pay :D
you should be uncapping everygame from their fps limit, like on apex legends
apex has a hard cap of 300fps, even when using +fps_max 0 or +fps_max 500. though i feel that a better way to showcase apex legends should be in a BR or mixtape mode, the firing range is very easy to hit the hard cap.
Quero ver a vitória JAO
Чем выше разрешение тем меньшее разницы
Exactly.
Rust 👍
hahaha Ridicolo! Come puoi fare dei test con una rtx4090 associata ad un 5600x? hehehehe e poi con la 4090 in FULL HD? HAHAAHA
Sai che per testare un processore quello che conta non è la GPU, ma quanti FPS la CPU può fornire, con una GPU più potente.
La combinazione di una CPU come il Ryzen 5 5600X con una GPU di fascia alta come la RTX 4090 può essere utile per:
Analizzare le Prestazioni della CPU: Quando si utilizza una GPU molto potente, il test si concentra sui limiti e sulle capacità della CPU, perché la GPU non sarà il collo di bottiglia.
Test in Full HD (1080p): A risoluzioni più basse, le prestazioni di gioco dipendono più dalla CPU. Questo consente di valutare quanti FPS la CPU può fornire senza essere limitata dalla GPU.
Pianificare Aggiornamenti Futuri: Capire come una CPU di fascia media si comporta con una GPU di ultima generazione aiuta a pianificare se e quando sarà necessario un upgrade della CPU.
if you play in 1080p you can see the performance difference much more in the higher fps games, and he is removing the GPU bottleneck with a 4090 so we can see how the CPUs perform better.
@@Alemegam hahaha a me non serve un test del genere per capire se la mia CPU deve essere cambiata! Comunque se lo dite voi e siete contenti cosi ok! Buona fortuna!
@@Alemegam Well said 👏🏻