I'm all in for Fermentation and converting factory farms into mushroom growing facilities. Anything that puts the animal agriculture industries out of business for good.
@VeganViki was my comment removed, as I said what he talked about wasn't mushroom growing, it was bacteria from yeast. Strands of bacteria, which could lead to viruses or even just weird stuff
Ye, but I'm not convinced that artificial meat of any kind is going towards Veganism. First, it Temporarily strengthens the paradigm that Beef Steak 🥩 etc is the most tasty food which we couldn't survive without. Second, the huge number of Animals that WILL be experimented on with Force Feeding experiments is yet to be unveiled.
@@morejoy5188The amount of non-human animals that could be saved from abuse and rights violations if lab grown meat starts to get purchased by a wide consumer base is absolutely insane
Wow! Precision Fermentation is very profound. Thanks so much for sharing this information. Keep doing what you do. We appreciate you here in Atlanta Ga.
Not 100%, but yeah, a huge contraction of the industry. Livestock will continue to be important (economically, and in other ways) in less developed countries for some time to come. All that assumes we don't blow up the planet in the short term - a distinct possibility.
There are some people who are on processed food free diets, but this is a super lower percentage of people. I bet these same people who are gonna complain have eaten cheese within the last 10 years that's had precion fermented rennet in it.
@AzxVhy Yeah it will lol. Money talks buddy. 10 to 20x efficiency is huge. When they get the cost of production down below live animals, the vast majority will be coming from there.
It's interesting how people are grossed out by stuff that was created in a spotless lab, but they never ask questions about the terrified baby animals getting exploited, mutilated and murdered in filthy disease-infested barns, just so they can have some sensory pleasure....
I used animal-based insulins in 1981-82 before the fermented, bacteria-based insulins were widely available in Canada. The standard was a 'pork and beef mixture' which was either clear or a cloudy suspension (fast or long acting). You could also get full on pig or cow source as well (helpful for religious restrictions or those who did poorly on one or the other). Insulins were one of the first GMO products to hit the world market(s) and, as far as I know, there are no health or medical repercussions for using this GMO. During the decade of 'the big switch' from animal to human identical insulin (1980-90), some folks complained about not being able to recognize when their blood sugars went low, or that the 'low drop' was very fast on the GMO insulins. This mattered because we didn't really have portable blood glucose monitors till the mid-80s. I was relieved when I no longer had to take animal-based medicine - which was odd because I didn't go full-time vegetarian till 1989 yet felt uneasy about the animal insulin. Just foreshadowing, I guess :D
I have tried animal free dairy milk and enjoyed it. It was nice knowing that it was produced without the cruelty or environmental impact of the dairy industry. Also the fact that it was free of growth hormones, antibiotics, and mammalian estrogen. I have been trying to educate others about this exciting technology ever since. Glad to see Mic covering the topic.
@@playpianotoday6223 I bought strive brand animal free dairy milk at a 99 Cents Only store on closeout. I stocked up since it was shelf stable. It was only $0.99 each but I checked on Amazon and it normally sells for quite a bit more. Other brands of animal free dairy milk include the bored cow brand
@@playpianotoday6223 other animal free dairy products include Brave robot ice cream but I don't know where to buy it. I'm guessing a Google search will tell you
What we need is cat and dog food to be prepared this way ASAP. I hate buying fancy feast for my cats imagining trawlers killing thousands of animals just for my cats...
There are scientifically/ nutritionally complete vegan cat foods out there. The best i know of is Evolution, and had dry and wet types. Takes the cat a little adjustment odorous and they like some flavors better than others but I haven't had to pay for another animal to be killed for my 15- year old cat in over 5 years.
@@laroseblanche9435you missed the point there slightly. it's about precision fermentation (meat without suffering). No one's saying a cat isn't an obligate carnivore, (although some are doing fine on current non-meat products which have the appropriate aminos etc)
@@monemori Have you seen him/heard him speak? I recommend, 'George Monbiot Why we Should Stop Farming Animals' on YT. Also, his interviews with Simon Hill are great. He's a great communicator.
Meat subsidy? You've got to be kidding, right? Four words for you... high fructose corn syrup. You want to improve human health? Focus on the right subsidy.
@@Curbyourenthusi the two have nothing to do with each other. Did you watch the video? It wasn’t about sugar. HFCS doesn’t needlessly torture and slaughter billions of animals each year
I buy what's best for my body... Red meat, raw milk, some fruits and vegetables. Clean water. The typical slave buys what's cheapest and most convenient though, vegans aren't far behind.
@@DesertWalker-zf7eb Some people buy what is cheap because they're poor, not because they want to. You sounded like a rich out of touch snob. Some cheap things are good like many plant foods. There are abundant edible weeds and plants like dandelions. And then some nonvegans stereotype vegan foods are expensive too. Eating plant based can be cheaper btw. Veganism is about caring for the animals and about animal abuse. What's wrong with that? The OP was talking mostly for most nonvegans who buy what's cheaper anyways. Did you watch the video? Precision fermentation and lab meat makes animal products too but without the cruelty. And clean and with less destruction to the environment. Ignoring all the evidence is what makes you a blind follower. Animal products are subsidized. That's why people are able to buy them. So why can't better things like precision fermentation or lab meat be subsidized instead? Or to end the subsidies to animal agriculture. Especially if you don't care if something is expensive. Insulting people doesn't mean you are right. You're the one blindly following the bad status quo. Most people eat the standard omnivore diet for taste. So do you. Vegans are 1% in the world. Why did you act like you're a rebel when you're in the majority and the standard? Animal products are unhealthy and give high cholesterol, hormones, antibiotics, diseases, etc. Watch Kavernacle on people dying from raw milk. Most people are lactose intolerant. Watch the documentaries and doctors on Plant Based News, Plant Chompers, Mic the Vegan, Lifting Vegan Logic, BitesizeVegan, Earthling Ed, and Conserving Compassion.
I am a WFPB vegan for the animals and I get all I need from plants, but for the overall health and wellness of the planet and all its Earthlings, this is very exciting and I do believe this is how animal agriculture will eventually disappear.
Precision fermentation might be able to generate protein that tastes the same as animal meat but for 20 times lower cost. If beef is $6 a pound in fermented beef is $0.30 very few people will pay that much more just to make vegans cry 😉
I'm definitely pro-this movement. I just don't think I would personally consume them because it would freak me out being "meat" or "dairy"... it has been 4 years since I had meat or dairy. I can't see having it even if it isn't "real" ... I don't know.
I had the chance to try Precision Fermentation produced animal free dairy milk, and I liked it. I also like many different types of plant based milks. Taste isn't the reason I am vegan, of course.
The main market for these foods will be those switching from animal 'products' but wanting the identical qualities, so vegans need not pressure themselves to try it.
silk sounds interesting, because the most popular alternative for it is nylon(very bad, oil derived and pollutes microplastics). cant wait to buy alpha MA-1 bomber made out of fermented silk
Nylon isn't nearly as bad as many other plastics. In compost conditions, it can fully break down in as little as 40 years or so. Meanwhile, PET/polyester, polycarbonate, etc can take 500+ years to degrade.
@@justinw1765 Nylon still sounds bad. Especially in the high quantity that it is used. Think about toxins and animals and people accidentally eating nylon. Or animals getting stuck in nylon. Why shouldn't we strive for something better?
Great program Mic! I love that precision fermentation will (hopefully) soon reduce the amount of animal suffering, but I am sticking to my whole-food plant-based diet.
Yes we all should invest in this. Mic and all the other influencers should push this. Vegans , vegetarians and other who are for animal welfare or environment this is the future we have been waiting for.
Well the specialiced companies sadly all perform very poorly (oatly, beyond meat as an example). I also wouldnt invest in nestle and danone for other reasons. So which companies are you thinking about in the etf?
@16:57 if people knew how sausages and hot dogs were made from animal parts, i doubt if most would continue to eat them. fermented proteins also have the potential to reduce food-borne illnesses, caused by micro-organisms like e. coli and salmonella, although such micro-organisms can also inhabit the surfaces of plant foods.
If you'd know the suffering animals go through after digesting the pesticides they spray on your broccoli and lettuce. You really think it's environmentally friendly to destroy the habitat of many small animals by growing monocultures of beans and rice? There's no land degrading when cows, sheep or pigs are roaming on it, on the contrary, they fertilize it with their dung and urine. Obviously I agree with you that feed lots are horrendous and should be banned
If WESTERN people knew how sausages and hot dogs were made, they might stop. The rest of the world is not so squeamish because they never had the luxury of western luxury. They were the victims that made Western Europeans so ... soft. You do not understand the world if you think that western people and their lifestyles represent the norm. Those people have no problem eating animal parts that western people freak out over. It is the question of life or death for them so they will not squander a testicle, an eyeball, a brain, or any other part including intestines and bones. It is they who must be persuaded and it can't be by force. Those with luxury might be tempted by veganism. But what does a village Indian woman care about your nonsense if that egg is the difference between her child having food or not? What does that Chinese man care about your nonsense if that is all there is to eat because famine. Now, I'm all for this product but I want it to be very cheap. Cheap enough that an African family of very poor means can easily afford it. In fact, i'd like this technology to be in my home. But the reality is that the West is the real problem. The people who are too squeamish about "alternative" animal parts are also too weak to actually cut down their luxurious waste on a societal level. I mean.. almond milk? How wasteful for the water. Cows? How wasteful. Air conditioning? How wasteful. Multiple family cars and commutes? How wasteful. Squandering arable land for grass lawns? How wasteful. Putting lawns in deserts? How wasteful. Look, I'm not a vegan but I'm sympathetic. I'm not a romantic. There are people out there and I can't see the romantic view that vegans have. I see the people. And the costs that vegans propose and their vision never seems to acknowledge the reality of people. It's only their little soft luxurious world that was paid for by those Indians and Chinese and Africans and South americans.
Tony Seba, economist and visionary, recently gave a speech and published a book on his predictions. He foretells an exponential growth in biomass fermentation. He sees it totally replacing livestock cultivation.
@@monemoriWho cares Thay were created to be eaten by us not to watching them just like how some animals kill and eat others And the most important thing is that they're so delicious 😋
Hey Mic, fantastic video, I just want to correct at 6:23 where you say "bees are invasive in North America". I don't like to use the term "invasive" in general, but you probably meant the western honeybee (Apis mellifera), which is indeed non-native (and the main bee for honey). But there are hundreds, probably thousands of other species of bees that are native to North America. Bees are very globally diverse
@@AzxVhy Nine foot seven. Thanks for asking. There are lots of plant-based diets. She seems to be into "raw till four", "bananas until you're in your pajamas", and fasting. Which is a well-known fast-track to becoming "ex-vegan". Try sharing your "eat meat" insights with the powerlifter Noah Hannibal (raised vegetarian and now 33 years vegan) who can bench-press 200kg in steroid-free competition conditions. Or the powerlifter Oliver Zamzow (29 years vegan), who can squat 265kg in steroid-free competition conditions. Or the bodybuilder Jehina Malik, who has been vegan since birth. Or the powerlifter Carey Kidd who has been vegan since birth and is built like a mountain. Or the legendary endurance runner Scott Jurek (vegan for 25 years). Or Annette Larkins, or Bellamy Young, or Lou Corona, or Shane Sterling, or Petra Nemcova, or Stephanie Gerard, or John Rose, or Victoria Moran, or Torre Washington, or Stefania Ferrario, or Brian Turner, or Kimberly Carroll, or Woody Harrelson, or Mischa Janiec, or Tia Blanco, or.…
I think it’s absolutely brilliant, and I hope the trent continues and grows strong. Anything that takes animals out of the food industry is a good thing. I try to be as wholefood plant based as possible, but once in a while, a vegan chicken schnitzel or vegan fish fillet is really nice. If we can increase the vegan options by mimicking animal protein, it will be a good incentive for people who are currently not vegan.
I went vegan last year. And before that I was a true cheese afficionado and grillmeister. In addition, I still share my household with non-vegans. These food innovations are so important to help make the transition, people are not going to eat vegan buddha bowls overnight after a life of animal eating. But I don't think this has to be a "transitioning tool" only. Yes, I am vegan for the animals. But never ever eating steak or eating brie ever again is a depressing thought, and I don't think there is any shame in longing for foods you used to have. Not stuffing my face with their corpse or their secretions, obviously, but I do think we live in a remarkable time where we can look forward to having new crueltyfree foods again in the foreseeable future and that is something to be celebrated.
I had to like the video instantly when you made the crack about plants feeling pain, but I wished I could like twice when you made that crack about Ron. Lol! Thanks for the laughs Mic
Exciting news! It is of course great that there are ways to end the devastations of animal consumption. And yet, why would I want to eat palm oil no matter how it is produced, it is a saturated fat… Same with dairy and meats. Interesting though that there seem to be no attempts to precision ferment plant foods. I’d love fermented silk and hopefully even wool though, because I still think there are no vegan and sustainable alternatives to those fabrics.
Well we already have health outcome data showing that dogs and cats do as good or better on current vegan foods conpared to dogs and cats on non-vegan foods.
Being Hindu, I always choose a food that is made with less cruelty if we have two options(meat or veg don't matter). lentil, soyabin > meat , egg (child not born yet) > chiken , milk > meat , leaf > root(potato).lentil, soyabin > meat , egg (child not born yet) > chiken , milk > meat , leaf > root(potato).
It is still unhealthy, albeit somewhat cleaner and controllable. Whey and heme - the western diet - are some of the biggest factors in people getting sick, as well as too much protein in general. Edit: fermenting/growing _other_ things in vats are, of course, preferable. Things like Quorn, solein and even coffee will make it so easy to get food sustainably. And growing animal products _not_ for eating, like leather, silk, and milk proteins to make plastic, is to be applauded.
I don't see whey as problematic whatsoever health-wise, unless it is contaminated with A1 casein proteins. Speaking for myself at least (and I have several food sensitivities), A1 casein proteins are indeed highly problematic and will turn my body into a temporary hyper mucous forming factory. Isolated whey doesn't bother me whatsoever and is fairly nutrient dense. It's also a byproduct based industry and so doesn't really directly support the dairy industry like milk, butter, and cheese purchases do. Or to put it this way, if everyone stopped consuming milk, butter, and cheese, but only used/bought whey, the dairy industry would more or less crash and the prices of whey would skyrocket. And if everyone stopped using whey, but kept to only milk, butter, and cheese, the same amount of cows would be raised every year. But yeah, fermented whey is definitely preferable.
@@JasonFuhrman Animal products give high cholesterol. Watch the documentaries and doctors on Plant Based News, Plant Chompers, Mic the Vegan, and Lifting Vegan Logic.
So cool you mentioned making protein out of thin air. The first time I heard about that was through Bradie Crandall. I did an interview with him last year. He's now a doctor, he's in his twenties, and he's a strong man also. It's a pretty awesome interview! That kid is incredible 🙂
A big benefit of being vegan is that you don't have to worry about food makers sneaking this stuff into all of your food. Rest assured if it's cheaper they are going to do it for that alone.
I recently learned that Derek Sarno is now collaborating with expert mushroom growers in Norfolk, England to transform a former poultry farm into a "groundbreaking mushroom-growing operation." I love that idea, too. It seems it would be important to help farmers transition into sustainable farming that supports what will be an ever-increasingly vegan world, and through which they can still make a living. A win-win for all.
Great topic, Mic, it's pretty exciting what PF will do to stop animals being bred into a dreadful existence. The lab grown silk sounds amazing, soon we'll have silk, leather, and wool, all eco friendly and no animals harmed. Makes you pleased to be living now, doesn't it.
The dad puns come automatically now! Oh, no, Mic! These are some wonderful bright spots of news about the long-term trends. Important to keep in mind as we learn bad news, like how the retail sales of Brave Robot have been discontinued so the company can focus on their b2b arm. Thanks for posting 🙂
More points to The Expanse for being the most scientifically accurate sci-fi TV show. "Vat grown" must have meant precision fermentation. (Not mention almost all foods in the show being plant-based with a heavy focus on soy and mushrooms.)
I feel this is great. But I will just keep eating plants. I am very excited PF for silk and palm oil for use in non-food applications such as clothing, cosmetics, soap, etc. Thanks for a great video that gives me hope for a more compassionate and healthy world.
The funny part is that everyone stresses out about protein and fat when they are the 2 macros that the human needs for these two are sooo small they aren’t even worth mentioning ever. The 3 things that are things people need to focus on is they need to eat starches vegetables and fruits. That’s all u need to do. U don’t need a calorie counter. U don’t need a dietitian following u around all day long or a dr checking your blood levels multiple times a year. The food has been designed perfectly people. Stop focusing on individual nutrients of foods and their percentages inside them. Nature knows way better than any human does. We think we know but we have only scratched the surface on how nutrition actually interacts with our bodies on a cellular level.
About cows... The dairy industry wants us to believe now that a compound in dairy fat (15:0) would be the holy graal of longevity... It is said a new essential fatty acid and, of course, vegan would be deficient unless they pay the very expensive fatty15, the only supplement available for this... It would be great if you could debunk this new trend someday... 👍 by the way 👍for the instructive video 😉
FYI: some folks are terribly allergic to the product Kourn ( sic) as I found out I was. After using it to make tacos one night . A few hours later I threw up more than I have ever in my entire life and of course felt terrible. It latest all night long and through the next morning when it finally ended with it all coming out the " other end" as well. So beware ! It is actually not sold in the UK because of this issue.
Yes... I love the innovation of precision fermentation but have the same concerns. Will those of us who get sick from Quorn and Meati be subject to the same illness from all these new foods?
That is an interesting perspective. I've been vegan 14 months. I don't consider those who eat cultured meat non-vegan. Just as I would not say anyone in the Star Trek universe eating meat from a replicator is a non-vegan. But I respect different viewpoints. We are all allies on this sacred quest to save spaceship Earth And all sentient life in the universe.
Energy Inefficiency and Resource Use: Precision fermentation technologies are still energy-intensive, as they require maintaining controlled environments for microbial growth, including temperature, aeration, and sterilization. This energy demand could reduce the overall efficiency and environmental benefits, especially if the energy source is not renewable [3]. Potential Environmental Savings: Precision fermentation could potentially save more energy, reduce suffering, and use less land compared to traditional meat production. It also emits fewer greenhouse gases and requires less water. However, the production cost and resource use for feedstocks (like sugar from crops) may offset some of these benefits, indicating a need for further optimization [3]. Safety for Regular Consumption: The safety of precision-fermented foods at a population level is still under examination. While they aim to replicate animal-derived proteins, the long-term health effects of consuming such lab-grown proteins are not fully known. Regulatory agencies are still in the process of assessing these products for regular human consumption [6]. Health Comparisons with Animal Products: There is a possibility that the consumption of precision-fermented animal-like proteins could replicate some health harms associated with animal products, such as issues linked to highly processed foods. From a vegan medical perspective, a whole-food, plant-based diet that avoids processed foods is still preferred for optimal health outcomes [4]. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9370229/ jawilliamsschool.ca/download/130107 www.rethinkx.com/faq-and-mythbusting/how-much-will-the-energy-for-precision-fermentation-and-cellular-agriculture-cost www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214804324000156 www.toppr.com/ask/en-us/question/the-total-energy-input-ein-in-a-process-is-partly-transferred-to-useful-energy-output www.foodunfolded.com/article/precision-fermentation-past-present-and-future-promise
Yes it is processed but it is hard to imagine this will not significantly save energy compared to CAFOs. Let's remember Tempeh is a processed food but one of the healthiest foods you can eat.
I’m glad for sparing animal lives but I don’t think eating chicken or ice cream is particularly healthy no matter how it’s produced! So what about that aspect of it??
What about it? Are you questioning whether it's worthwhile to produce foods that the vast majority of people already regularly eat in a way that is far less cruel and environmentally destructive? Because the answer to that looks pretty simple to me. It could save billions of animals every year and make our planet much healthier. Who cares if it doesn't also make people healthier?
I hear you, but I would expect healthier equally palatable versions would become available, but doubtless the producers will still want us addicted!! So I'll stick to WFPB with no meat of any type
I have major issues with A1 casein. But no issues with A2 casein. Also don't have any issues with very well cultured A1 casein like greek yogurt or 3 year cheeses. But I try to not eat it for other reasons.
@@AmoPerrosMás I found Violife very bland. I live in the UK so we have a wide range of cheese from here and Europe. I found a good cheddar replacement in Cathedral City, but that's it. Nothing like a crumbly Cheshire, or a creamy Red Leicester for example. I'm always a bit envious at Christmas when the family cheese board comes out. Not tempted though.
while i think taste is just a distraction people use to not go vegan, i admit i haven't thought of companies using vegan ingredients because they're cheaper. if companies use vegan products, meat will eventually be more expensive as they can't sell bad looking pieces of meat to companies anymore to recoop some of their costs.
I'm all in for Fermentation and converting factory farms into mushroom growing facilities. Anything that puts the animal agriculture industries out of business for good.
It ain't mushrooms! It's yeast growth like kombucha! It's deadly!
Oh gosh can you imagine, so much misery in the world would cease :(
No thanks. I will buy meat and make sauteed mushrooms. I don't want your gross vegan lab foods, like most Humans. Be unhealthy by yourself
@VeganViki was my comment removed, as I said what he talked about wasn't mushroom growing, it was bacteria from yeast. Strands of bacteria, which could lead to viruses or even just weird stuff
No way! The quality of protein from vege cant compare to meat😂
What great news!! Any shift towards lessening the suffering of animals is a step in the right direction I love to see it! 😍
Veganism=malnourishment
Ye, but I'm not convinced that artificial meat of any kind is going towards Veganism.
First, it Temporarily strengthens the paradigm that Beef Steak 🥩 etc is the most tasty food which we couldn't survive without.
Second, the huge number of Animals that WILL be experimented on with Force Feeding experiments is yet to be unveiled.
The internet is unnatural yet here you are
@@morejoy5188The amount of non-human animals that could be saved from abuse and rights violations if lab grown meat starts to get purchased by a wide consumer base is absolutely insane
@@morejoy5188progress
Wow! Precision Fermentation is very profound. Thanks so much for sharing this information. Keep doing what you do. We appreciate you here in Atlanta Ga.
The PF chicken is a big deal because you will never need to cull your chickens if they get bird flu.
One of many advantages!
do vegans not understand that this "global veganism" idea involves culling 100% of privately owned livestock?
they dont even die horribly in car accidents
Did you just make a video showing how it’s perfectly realistic to expect the demise of animal agriculture within my own lifetime?!
Wow.
Not 100%, but yeah, a huge contraction of the industry.
Livestock will continue to be important (economically, and in other ways) in less developed countries for some time to come.
All that assumes we don't blow up the planet in the short term - a distinct possibility.
Your vegan foods are being inundated with agricultural chemicals. Especially glyphosate.
I'm starting to get hope about it
It's like a dream.
Its not realistic at all lol.
Cue the "it's not natural and highly processed" protests.
It's not natural and highly processed! "Science" is overrated, overreaching & easily manipulated.. as the "perforation drive" taught us.
While they slurp down the hormone fluid created to double or triple a calf’s weight in less than a year, filled with man-made antibiotics 😂
Exactly and saying it with quotes doesn’t change the fact that it is highly processed. Our bodies do not know how to digest these fake foods
There are some people who are on processed food free diets, but this is a super lower percentage of people. I bet these same people who are gonna complain have eaten cheese within the last 10 years that's had precion fermented rennet in it.
@AnthonyLee-dj1xo of course. Nobody lives a 100% "natural" lifestyle.
“No whey!”
“Whey!”
Excellent!!! 😂😂😂😂
That is funny right there!
Love a good pun.
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Anyway
This will close the slaughterhouses
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No it won't. Get over it.
There is always someone like you...@@AzxVhy
@AzxVhy Yeah it will lol. Money talks buddy. 10 to 20x efficiency is huge. When they get the cost of production down below live animals, the vast majority will be coming from there.
We can hope 🤞🤞🤞
It's interesting how people are grossed out by stuff that was created in a spotless lab, but they never ask questions about the terrified baby animals getting exploited, mutilated and murdered in filthy disease-infested barns, just so they can have some sensory pleasure....
fear of the unkown is very strong is most people.
No fear of ecoli, leukemia, hormones, pandemics but frightened about the alternative. Nonsensical
Everything made in a lab is unhealthy. This is why vegans are unhealthy and fake meat and Milk is unhealthy, while meat, eggs, and dairy is healthy
!!!!!!!!! ALL FACTS
Normalcy bias! Same reason we downplay the very real risk of getting into a car or bus every day.
I used animal-based insulins in 1981-82 before the fermented, bacteria-based insulins were widely available in Canada. The standard was a 'pork and beef mixture' which was either clear or a cloudy suspension (fast or long acting). You could also get full on pig or cow source as well (helpful for religious restrictions or those who did poorly on one or the other). Insulins were one of the first GMO products to hit the world market(s) and, as far as I know, there are no health or medical repercussions for using this GMO.
During the decade of 'the big switch' from animal to human identical insulin (1980-90), some folks complained about not being able to recognize when their blood sugars went low, or that the 'low drop' was very fast on the GMO insulins. This mattered because we didn't really have portable blood glucose monitors till the mid-80s.
I was relieved when I no longer had to take animal-based medicine - which was odd because I didn't go full-time vegetarian till 1989 yet felt uneasy about the animal insulin. Just foreshadowing, I guess :D
u need meat bruh
I have tried animal free dairy milk and enjoyed it.
It was nice knowing that it was produced without the cruelty or environmental impact of the dairy industry.
Also the fact that it was free of growth hormones, antibiotics, and mammalian estrogen.
I have been trying to educate others about this exciting technology ever since. Glad to see Mic covering the topic.
I’d like to try that. What is it called and where can I buy it?
@@playpianotoday6223 I bought strive brand animal free dairy milk at a 99 Cents Only store on closeout. I stocked up since it was shelf stable. It was only $0.99 each but I checked on Amazon and it normally sells for quite a bit more. Other brands of animal free dairy milk include the bored cow brand
@@playpianotoday6223 other animal free dairy products include Brave robot ice cream but I don't know where to buy it. I'm guessing a Google search will tell you
What we need is cat and dog food to be prepared this way ASAP. I hate buying fancy feast for my cats imagining trawlers killing thousands of animals just for my cats...
Ur cat basically not vegan omg . Cat is carnivore. 😢
There are scientifically/ nutritionally complete vegan cat foods out there. The best i know of is Evolution, and had dry and wet types. Takes the cat a little adjustment odorous and they like some flavors better than others but I haven't had to pay for another animal to be killed for my 15- year old cat in over 5 years.
@@laroseblanche9435you missed the point there slightly. it's about precision fermentation (meat without suffering). No one's saying a cat isn't an obligate carnivore, (although some are doing fine on current non-meat products which have the appropriate aminos etc)
This would be a good start.
Wild Earth just recently launched a nutritionally complete (meets AAFCO standards) vegan cat food. The brand is Unicorn Pate.
Highly recommend George Monbiot's book Regenesis. He"s a huge fan of precision fermentation.
It's a fantastic, well-researched, no-BS book, I can't recommend it enough.
@@monemori Have you seen him/heard him speak? I recommend, 'George Monbiot Why we Should Stop Farming Animals' on YT. Also, his interviews with Simon Hill are great. He's a great communicator.
cool!
@@viviendaquino8364yes! I also recommend his interview on Adam Buxton’s podcast. It was a little different since they recorded it on a walk!
People will buy whatever is cheapest and convenient. If this can get subsidies away from meat we’d be golden
Meat subsidy? You've got to be kidding, right? Four words for you... high fructose corn syrup. You want to improve human health? Focus on the right subsidy.
@@Curbyourenthusi the two have nothing to do with each other. Did you watch the video? It wasn’t about sugar.
HFCS doesn’t needlessly torture and slaughter billions of animals each year
I buy what's best for my body... Red meat, raw milk, some fruits and vegetables. Clean water.
The typical slave buys what's cheapest and most convenient though, vegans aren't far behind.
@@DesertWalker-zf7eb Some people buy what is cheap because they're poor, not because they want to.
You sounded like a rich out of touch snob.
Some cheap things are good like many plant foods.
There are abundant edible weeds and plants like dandelions.
And then some nonvegans stereotype vegan foods are expensive too.
Eating plant based can be cheaper btw.
Veganism is about caring for the animals and about animal abuse. What's wrong with that?
The OP was talking mostly for most nonvegans who buy what's cheaper anyways.
Did you watch the video? Precision fermentation and lab meat makes animal products too but without the cruelty. And clean and with less destruction to the environment.
Ignoring all the evidence is what makes you a blind follower.
Animal products are subsidized.
That's why people are able to buy them.
So why can't better things like precision fermentation or lab meat be subsidized instead?
Or to end the subsidies to animal agriculture.
Especially if you don't care if something is expensive.
Insulting people doesn't mean you are right.
You're the one blindly following the bad status quo.
Most people eat the standard omnivore diet for taste. So do you.
Vegans are 1% in the world.
Why did you act like you're a rebel when you're in the majority and the standard?
Animal products are unhealthy and give high cholesterol, hormones, antibiotics, diseases, etc.
Watch Kavernacle on people dying from raw milk.
Most people are lactose intolerant.
Watch the documentaries and doctors on Plant Based News, Plant Chompers, Mic the Vegan, Lifting Vegan Logic, BitesizeVegan, Earthling Ed, and Conserving Compassion.
Price point will be crucial, and that is managed by the manufacturers and the marketers.
I am a WFPB vegan for the animals and I get all I need from plants, but for the overall health and wellness of the planet and all its Earthlings, this is very exciting and I do believe this is how animal agriculture will eventually disappear.
Supplements and fortified food is not a Whole Food. You are a processed junk food vegan.
Precision fermentation might be able to generate protein that tastes the same as animal meat but for 20 times lower cost. If beef is $6 a pound in fermented beef is $0.30 very few people will pay that much more just to make vegans cry 😉
I guess this will make the difference between WFPB and veganism bigger.
PFFB: Partial Food, Fermentation-Based
What great news! What an incredible time to be alive!
Precision fermentation sounds like the up and coming investment opportunity.
I'm definitely pro-this movement. I just don't think I would personally consume them because it would freak me out being "meat" or "dairy"... it has been 4 years since I had meat or dairy. I can't see having it even if it isn't "real" ... I don't know.
I was thinking, even if there was a Star Trek food synthesizer, I wouldn't want that kind of meat. It kinda has to taste like plant protein for me.
I had the chance to try Precision Fermentation produced animal free dairy milk, and I liked it. I also like many different types of plant based milks. Taste isn't the reason I am vegan, of course.
The main market for these foods will be those switching from animal 'products' but wanting the identical qualities, so vegans need not pressure themselves to try it.
What about the new honey? 😯❓🍯❓😯
It is not meat or dairy.
Thank you for sharing such positive news :) Feeling hopeful...
I had no idea how precision fermentation actually worked, nor to what extent we were already using it. This is great information - thank you!
silk sounds interesting, because the most popular alternative for it is nylon(very bad, oil derived and pollutes microplastics). cant wait to buy alpha MA-1 bomber made out of fermented silk
For now, we've tencel for a rather eco-friendly, sustainable option along the lines of silk.
Nylon isn't nearly as bad as many other plastics. In compost conditions, it can fully break down in as little as 40 years or so. Meanwhile, PET/polyester, polycarbonate, etc can take 500+ years to degrade.
@@justinw1765 Nylon still sounds bad. Especially in the high quantity that it is used.
Think about toxins and animals and people accidentally eating nylon. Or animals getting stuck in nylon.
Why shouldn't we strive for something better?
Great program Mic! I love that precision fermentation will (hopefully) soon reduce the amount of animal suffering, but I am sticking to my whole-food plant-based diet.
I would love to invest in all this stuff. Someone should put together an ETF. Maybe there already is one. I will have to look into it.
Yes we all should invest in this. Mic and all the other influencers should push this. Vegans , vegetarians and other who are for animal welfare or environment this is the future we have been waiting for.
Well the specialiced companies sadly all perform very poorly (oatly, beyond meat as an example). I also wouldnt invest in nestle and danone for other reasons. So which companies are you thinking about in the etf?
Mic the Vegan, great content it was really entertaining
@16:57 if people knew how sausages and hot dogs were made from animal parts, i doubt if most would continue to eat them.
fermented proteins also have the potential to reduce food-borne illnesses, caused by micro-organisms like e. coli and salmonella, although such micro-organisms can also inhabit the surfaces of plant foods.
People know, they don't want to face it. Too addicted and too much social support.
If you'd know the suffering animals go through after digesting the pesticides they spray on your broccoli and lettuce.
You really think it's environmentally friendly to destroy the habitat of many small animals by growing monocultures of beans and rice?
There's no land degrading when cows, sheep or pigs are roaming on it, on the contrary, they fertilize it with their dung and urine.
Obviously I agree with you that feed lots are horrendous and should be banned
If WESTERN people knew how sausages and hot dogs were made, they might stop. The rest of the world is not so squeamish because they never had the luxury of western luxury. They were the victims that made Western Europeans so ... soft.
You do not understand the world if you think that western people and their lifestyles represent the norm. Those people have no problem eating animal parts that western people freak out over. It is the question of life or death for them so they will not squander a testicle, an eyeball, a brain, or any other part including intestines and bones. It is they who must be persuaded and it can't be by force.
Those with luxury might be tempted by veganism. But what does a village Indian woman care about your nonsense if that egg is the difference between her child having food or not? What does that Chinese man care about your nonsense if that is all there is to eat because famine.
Now, I'm all for this product but I want it to be very cheap. Cheap enough that an African family of very poor means can easily afford it. In fact, i'd like this technology to be in my home. But the reality is that the West is the real problem. The people who are too squeamish about "alternative" animal parts are also too weak to actually cut down their luxurious waste on a societal level. I mean.. almond milk? How wasteful for the water. Cows? How wasteful. Air conditioning? How wasteful. Multiple family cars and commutes? How wasteful. Squandering arable land for grass lawns? How wasteful. Putting lawns in deserts? How wasteful.
Look, I'm not a vegan but I'm sympathetic. I'm not a romantic. There are people out there and I can't see the romantic view that vegans have. I see the people. And the costs that vegans propose and their vision never seems to acknowledge the reality of people. It's only their little soft luxurious world that was paid for by those Indians and Chinese and Africans and South americans.
Most ppl know how it is made and rather eat that than gross vegan slop from a lab.
Aren’t those produce recalls usually linked to fecal runoff from nearby cow farms, anyway?
Tony Seba, economist and visionary, recently gave a speech and published a book on his predictions. He foretells an exponential growth in biomass fermentation. He sees it totally replacing livestock cultivation.
If the government subsidized it like they do animal products then it would be a lot cheaper.
If governments stopped subsidizing animal ag we would already have mostly vegan world because animal products would be too expensive
If they did the world will be more unhealthy and we would go into civil war. Vegans will be blamed
We live in the age of miracles and wonders. Imagine what fabulous vegan, healthy, tasty foods are coming!
@@jttj742it will for sure be healthier for the animals to not be killed though!
@@jttj742I wonder if they could "invent" new foods that are targeted at being extremely healthy, like souped up vegetables or something
It will all be unhealthy and sub-par in taste at best. Not all humans are stupid like vegans
@@monemoriWho cares
Thay were created to be eaten by us not to watching them just like how some animals kill and eat others
And the most important thing is that they're so delicious 😋
@@jttj742 Meat definitely isn't healthy, we've eaten it forever, and it's causing most of our modern dietary diseases.. It has to go!
Hey Mic, fantastic video, I just want to correct at 6:23 where you say "bees are invasive in North America". I don't like to use the term "invasive" in general, but you probably meant the western honeybee (Apis mellifera), which is indeed non-native (and the main bee for honey). But there are hundreds, probably thousands of other species of bees that are native to North America. Bees are very globally diverse
. . . thx for all your heavy research for the good of so many - and, most especially, for making it so fun & entertaining 🥰🥰🥰
Thanks for the update. I love hearing about all the progress being made toward a vegan world.
New video! How does it feel to be on the leading edge of history mike
So good to hear some good news every once in a while. This made med hopeful ❤ thank you
This is actually so interesting. I would love another video on precision fermentation!
A World without slaughterhouses would be so much better for animals, the environment and humans health
It definitely didn't work for you Amy. You would be better off eating meat. Then listening to durianliar and to anemic Mike
@@AzxVhy Awwwwww. Why so gwumpy and wesentful, little one? Time for nap nap?
@@JohnDoe-s3v2v Little one? How tall are you?
@@JohnDoe-s3v2v vegan diet did not work for me and it is not working for her. Not being a hater I know her videos for years.
@@AzxVhy Nine foot seven. Thanks for asking.
There are lots of plant-based diets. She seems to be into "raw till four", "bananas until you're in your pajamas", and fasting. Which is a well-known fast-track to becoming "ex-vegan".
Try sharing your "eat meat" insights with the powerlifter Noah Hannibal (raised vegetarian and now 33 years vegan) who can bench-press 200kg in steroid-free competition conditions. Or the powerlifter Oliver Zamzow (29 years vegan), who can squat 265kg in steroid-free competition conditions. Or the bodybuilder Jehina Malik, who has been vegan since birth. Or the powerlifter Carey Kidd who has been vegan since birth and is built like a mountain. Or the legendary endurance runner Scott Jurek (vegan for 25 years). Or Annette Larkins, or Bellamy Young, or Lou Corona, or Shane Sterling, or Petra Nemcova, or Stephanie Gerard, or John Rose, or Victoria Moran, or Torre Washington, or Stefania Ferrario, or Brian Turner, or Kimberly Carroll, or Woody Harrelson, or Mischa Janiec, or Tia Blanco, or.…
Watching your videos should be subtracted from screen time as this is good old-fashioned optimism.
“Oh, they never cared in the first place” 🤣🤣🤣 Absolutely right Mic
Gene Roddenberry figured it would be technology that makes this happen..
Mr. Spock didn't eat meat. I don't know about dairy, but he is logical, so probably no dairy either.
"“We no longer enslave animals for food purposes" Commander Riker
“You humans claim to be enlightened, yet you still consume the flesh of animals.” Commander T'Paul
Star Trek is how my AI life coach convinced me to try veganism.
@@adamgalas6762 anyone who knows the facts would agree. It's only logical
I think it’s absolutely brilliant, and I hope the trent continues and grows strong. Anything that takes animals out of the food industry is a good thing. I try to be as wholefood plant based as possible, but once in a while, a vegan chicken schnitzel or vegan fish fillet is really nice. If we can increase the vegan options by mimicking animal protein, it will be a good incentive for people who are currently not vegan.
I went vegan last year. And before that I was a true cheese afficionado and grillmeister. In addition, I still share my household with non-vegans. These food innovations are so important to help make the transition, people are not going to eat vegan buddha bowls overnight after a life of animal eating. But I don't think this has to be a "transitioning tool" only. Yes, I am vegan for the animals. But never ever eating steak or eating brie ever again is a depressing thought, and I don't think there is any shame in longing for foods you used to have. Not stuffing my face with their corpse or their secretions, obviously, but I do think we live in a remarkable time where we can look forward to having new crueltyfree foods again in the foreseeable future and that is something to be celebrated.
I had to like the video instantly when you made the crack about plants feeling pain, but I wished I could like twice when you made that crack about Ron. Lol! Thanks for the laughs Mic
Hej! It was lovely meeting you at the “Vegan Campout”. You’re such a lovely person. I was pretty excited to meet you 😊
Exciting news! It is of course great that there are ways to end the devastations of animal consumption. And yet, why would I want to eat palm oil no matter how it is produced, it is a saturated fat… Same with dairy and meats. Interesting though that there seem to be no attempts to precision ferment plant foods. I’d love fermented silk and hopefully even wool though, because I still think there are no vegan and sustainable alternatives to those fabrics.
I can see huge new strides in vegan dog and cat food coming too.
Great observation! Hermione herself(MVP) would say," BRILLIANT "!😅😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
Cats are obligate carnivores.
Well we already have health outcome data showing that dogs and cats do as good or better on current vegan foods conpared to dogs and cats on non-vegan foods.
And?@@orthohawk1026
Being Hindu, I always choose a food that is made with less cruelty if we have two options(meat or veg don't matter). lentil, soyabin > meat , egg (child not born yet) > chiken , milk > meat , leaf > root(potato).lentil, soyabin > meat , egg (child not born yet) > chiken , milk > meat , leaf > root(potato).
My only concern is the Government standing against these products to protect "farmers" interest
If that is so, then China or Russia will beat us to it. Then we will just import it.
So then you want ppl to starve and farm workers to lose their jobs? This is why veganism is evil
They will at first as there will be a lot of lobbying, but hopefully this will be rapidly overcome. It really could happen!!!
@@dj.h7424 hope for the best 🤞
Hate to break it to you... Your food comes from farms....
It is still unhealthy, albeit somewhat cleaner and controllable. Whey and heme - the western diet - are some of the biggest factors in people getting sick, as well as too much protein in general.
Edit: fermenting/growing _other_ things in vats are, of course, preferable. Things like Quorn, solein and even coffee will make it so easy to get food sustainably. And growing animal products _not_ for eating, like leather, silk, and milk proteins to make plastic, is to be applauded.
What do you mean by "sick"?
I don't see whey as problematic whatsoever health-wise, unless it is contaminated with A1 casein proteins. Speaking for myself at least (and I have several food sensitivities), A1 casein proteins are indeed highly problematic and will turn my body into a temporary hyper mucous forming factory. Isolated whey doesn't bother me whatsoever and is fairly nutrient dense. It's also a byproduct based industry and so doesn't really directly support the dairy industry like milk, butter, and cheese purchases do. Or to put it this way, if everyone stopped consuming milk, butter, and cheese, but only used/bought whey, the dairy industry would more or less crash and the prices of whey would skyrocket.
And if everyone stopped using whey, but kept to only milk, butter, and cheese, the same amount of cows would be raised every year.
But yeah, fermented whey is definitely preferable.
How is too much protein a problem? That's contrary to the current scientific consensus; low-protein diets are one of the leading causes of obesity.
There is plant plastic and leather.
@@JasonFuhrman Animal products give high cholesterol.
Watch the documentaries and doctors on Plant Based News, Plant Chompers, Mic the Vegan, and Lifting Vegan Logic.
These products will definitely change the world. So many people that I could see going for them that aren’t Vegan now.
As a stitcher, I’m all for fermented silk. ❤
Präzisionsfermentation (Precision Fermentation in German) is my favourite word since I learned about it 💚🐾🌱
So cool you mentioned making protein out of thin air. The first time I heard about that was through Bradie Crandall. I did an interview with him last year. He's now a doctor, he's in his twenties, and he's a strong man also. It's a pretty awesome interview! That kid is incredible 🙂
Thank you so much for all the hard work research for free 🙏🏻 and for the Seed intro & offer, will definitely give it a try!
A big benefit of being vegan is that you don't have to worry about food makers sneaking this stuff into all of your food. Rest assured if it's cheaper they are going to do it for that alone.
I recently learned that Derek Sarno is now collaborating with expert mushroom growers in Norfolk, England to transform a former poultry farm into a "groundbreaking mushroom-growing operation." I love that idea, too. It seems it would be important to help farmers transition into sustainable farming that supports what will be an ever-increasingly vegan world, and through which they can still make a living. A win-win for all.
Great topic, Mic, it's pretty exciting what PF will do to stop animals being bred into a dreadful existence. The lab grown silk sounds amazing, soon we'll have silk, leather, and wool, all eco friendly and no animals harmed. Makes you pleased to be living now, doesn't it.
Terrific news! Thanks for bringing this topic to us!
The dad puns come automatically now! Oh, no, Mic! These are some wonderful bright spots of news about the long-term trends. Important to keep in mind as we learn bad news, like how the retail sales of Brave Robot have been discontinued so the company can focus on their b2b arm. Thanks for posting 🙂
This was super fun and cool. ❤
More points to The Expanse for being the most scientifically accurate sci-fi TV show. "Vat grown" must have meant precision fermentation. (Not mention almost all foods in the show being plant-based with a heavy focus on soy and mushrooms.)
Thank you for making absolutely awesome content that helps us staying updated.
I feel this is great. But I will just keep eating plants. I am very excited PF for silk and palm oil for use in non-food applications such as clothing, cosmetics, soap, etc. Thanks for a great video that gives me hope for a more compassionate and healthy world.
The funny part is that everyone stresses out about protein and fat when they are the 2 macros that the human needs for these two are sooo small they aren’t even worth mentioning ever. The 3 things that are things people need to focus on is they need to eat starches vegetables and fruits. That’s all u need to do. U don’t need a calorie counter. U don’t need a dietitian following u around all day long or a dr checking your blood levels multiple times a year. The food has been designed perfectly people. Stop focusing on individual nutrients of foods and their percentages inside them. Nature knows way better than any human does. We think we know but we have only scratched the surface on how nutrition actually interacts with our bodies on a cellular level.
Yesssss real food = nutrition
Love the Precision Fermentation concept, go Tony Seba.
So exciting!!!!
I think this goes to show that everything is just chemistry.
And what about health? We'll have to carry out large-scale tests. Are these products carcinogenic, or do they promote cardiovascular disease?
Sounds very sci-fi! Can’t wait! 🎉
As long as we don’t find out later that Soylent Green is people, I’m down to try this stuff.
Great video, thanks for such positive news !
You made my day! People who research this and push the ethical ways to produce products are amazing
#VeganForLife ❤
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I've recently heard someone call stuff like cultured meats and whatnot "slaughter-free meat" which I really like !!
❤This is such exciting news, MIKE! 😊Thank you so much for sharing it and making me optimistic that I will live to see this in my lifetime.😊❤
Love it - endless possibilities here!
This is such great news!!! 🎉🎉
Great news anything to stop the suffering of sentient beings and preserve mother earth 🌍 thanks mic😊
Great news to start the day with! 💚🌱
Looking forward to seeing those in the aisles ❤
About cows... The dairy industry wants us to believe now that a compound in dairy fat (15:0) would be the holy graal of longevity... It is said a new essential fatty acid and, of course, vegan would be deficient unless they pay the very expensive fatty15, the only supplement available for this... It would be great if you could debunk this new trend someday... 👍 by the way 👍for the instructive video 😉
Read the RethinkX paper. Cost and efficiency cuvres are like gravity. PF foods are happening no matter what you think.
FYI: some folks are terribly allergic to the product Kourn ( sic) as I found out I was. After using it to make tacos one night . A few hours later I threw up more than I have ever in my entire life and of course felt terrible. It latest all night long and through the next morning when it finally ended with it all coming out the " other end" as well. So beware ! It is actually not sold in the UK because of this issue.
Yes... I love the innovation of precision fermentation but have the same concerns. Will those of us who get sick from Quorn and Meati be subject to the same illness from all these new foods?
Wow brilliant news love this channel!! Incredible how far we've come, precision fermentation is genius!
As a vegan I would not eat cultured meat...but then there is no reason why not...morally
Same here, I don't need it but I'm all for it!
That is an interesting perspective. I've been vegan 14 months. I don't consider those who eat cultured meat non-vegan. Just as I would not say anyone in the Star Trek universe eating meat from a replicator is a non-vegan. But I respect different viewpoints. We are all allies on this sacred quest to save spaceship Earth And all sentient life in the universe.
Fantastic topic! So interesting and promising 🎉💚🌿🙌
Wow, this could have massive implications for the environment. What rationale could possibly be used to oppose it, other than political corruption?
The massive implications for the environment.
OMG! Thank you so much for all of your efforts and the time you are investing, and I feel your heart filled into all of this. Thanks
Energy Inefficiency and Resource Use:
Precision fermentation technologies are still energy-intensive, as they require maintaining controlled environments for microbial growth, including temperature, aeration, and sterilization. This energy demand could reduce the overall efficiency and environmental benefits, especially if the energy source is not renewable [3].
Potential Environmental Savings:
Precision fermentation could potentially save more energy, reduce suffering, and use less land compared to traditional meat production. It also emits fewer greenhouse gases and requires less water. However, the production cost and resource use for feedstocks (like sugar from crops) may offset some of these benefits, indicating a need for further optimization [3].
Safety for Regular Consumption:
The safety of precision-fermented foods at a population level is still under examination. While they aim to replicate animal-derived proteins, the long-term health effects of consuming such lab-grown proteins are not fully known. Regulatory agencies are still in the process of assessing these products for regular human consumption [6].
Health Comparisons with Animal Products:
There is a possibility that the consumption of precision-fermented animal-like proteins could replicate some health harms associated with animal products, such as issues linked to highly processed foods. From a vegan medical perspective, a whole-food, plant-based diet that avoids processed foods is still preferred for optimal health outcomes [4].
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9370229/
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www.rethinkx.com/faq-and-mythbusting/how-much-will-the-energy-for-precision-fermentation-and-cellular-agriculture-cost
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214804324000156
www.toppr.com/ask/en-us/question/the-total-energy-input-ein-in-a-process-is-partly-transferred-to-useful-energy-output
www.foodunfolded.com/article/precision-fermentation-past-present-and-future-promise
Yes it is processed but it is hard to imagine this will not significantly save energy compared to CAFOs.
Let's remember Tempeh is a processed food but one of the healthiest foods you can eat.
That "he who shall not be named" POS is one of the reasons I left FL.
This is amazing news. 😊
pigments!?!? we will be able to use mummy brown again!
i need to know is, fur man ted, happy?
This is pretty exciting. I don't much care for meat replacements, but I can see the benefit. Plus all the other stuff is pretty cool.
I’m glad for sparing animal lives but I don’t think eating chicken or ice cream is particularly healthy no matter how it’s produced! So what about that aspect of it??
What about it? Are you questioning whether it's worthwhile to produce foods that the vast majority of people already regularly eat in a way that is far less cruel and environmentally destructive? Because the answer to that looks pretty simple to me. It could save billions of animals every year and make our planet much healthier. Who cares if it doesn't also make people healthier?
I hear you, but I would expect healthier equally palatable versions would become available, but doubtless the producers will still want us addicted!! So I'll stick to WFPB with no meat of any type
I choose not to eat meat, but I cannot eat dairy. The casein tears up my innards.
I have major issues with A1 casein. But no issues with A2 casein. Also don't have any issues with very well cultured A1 casein like greek yogurt or 3 year cheeses. But I try to not eat it for other reasons.
Just gimme a good vegan cheese that isn't just cheddar. That's all I want.
Have you tried Violife? They have all kinds of flavors, even feta and cream cheese and it's all really good!
give Rebel cheese a try, their brie is amazing!
@@AmoPerrosMás I found Violife very bland. I live in the UK so we have a wide range of cheese from here and Europe. I found a good cheddar replacement in Cathedral City, but that's it. Nothing like a crumbly Cheshire, or a creamy Red Leicester for example. I'm always a bit envious at Christmas when the family cheese board comes out. Not tempted though.
@@tracyehrenberg6074 That's not a brand I have ever seen here in Britain.
@@varalys check out Yumbles, Tynechease, Walnutgatherer, there's plenty online
Ecosocialism is our future for humanity’s survival.🌱Ⓐ🏳️🌈☆☭🏳️⚧️
Let's hope the 1% don't drive us to Extinction before that can happen.
Humanity's survival, and you decided to put the celibate flags and hammer & sickle?
Let’s end the exploitation of all sentient beings: humans and animals
@@aguy481
Why do you hate queer people and why do you have a problem with reducing exploitation of the working class?
Meanwhile, beyond the kindergarten, the world continues to fall apart.
Hi Mic! Love your videos! How about a list of the companies to invest in? Thx for all the great insights and humor along the way!
Some great news in the morning! I hope these meat-alternatives will succeed in the nearest future.🌱
There's hope 😢 Thank you so much for this information 🙏💚
love u mic
while i think taste is just a distraction people use to not go vegan, i admit i haven't thought of companies using vegan ingredients because they're cheaper.
if companies use vegan products, meat will eventually be more expensive as they can't sell bad looking pieces of meat to companies anymore to recoop some of their costs.
There is a really great presentation on UA-cam by Tony Seba called --The Disruption of Food and Agriculture-- Highly recommended