From my own experience. Dry grip is insane (like impossible to try let it slide) but with all the rain and cold in the Benelux you have only a few months to really enjoy them. Worst thing for me was the noise I think.. Cause that gets annoying. I drove 2 summers on 15inch semies on a swift sport. I think they were advan A052. Wheels were ats dtc. The wheels were lightweight but The weight of the tyres is insanely lightweight.
I’m looking to get these with a set of extra rims for the summer months when I do mostly track days and sometimes some spirited touge tours with friends. For the rest of the year I’ll keep using all season tires as those are then better than pilot sports when it’s colder. I drive about 25k to 30k km a year so I probably do 2 summers with a set.
My Federal rsr are gone after 5000km and I only have 150hp in E36. I drove a little over 2 degree camber all around. But I live near the black forest so lots of windy roads.
@@steffenkawa8374 HP isn't that important, I did 8000 km with high side wall pirellis on my 70hp first car. It's all about how you mistreat them in the corners 😁
I've just put AR1s on my 760li. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Prior to that PS4s but I still got traction loss on occasion. I also went from 265.35.r20 to 285.35.r20. The downside I guess will be the noise but it will be interesting to see where it takes the grip levels too. They're so soft compared to the Michelins.
Hell yeah another upload! Do you plan on going stage 2? If so I'd love some info about oil cooling. A 118i has an oil cooler and I'm looking at fitting that oil cooler with the oil filter housing so its compatible. I believe that's the way to go about it, but no clue honestly.
@@bimmerbelgium2254 intercooler is for cooling the air that goes through the turbo but the oil cooler cools the engine oil which shouldn't go above 120C. Apologies if I wasn't clear.
I have 13 inch wheels on a classic Bmw 2002 and no real option for road performance tires. They’re all crap. Would this be an option for spirited driving? I only take it the car for a spin when it’s nice and sunny anyway
I got a e92 335d and when i put my foot down my tyres always loose grip even on straights was thinking of putting semis on i only use the car on weekends as i use my x5 for work so it really dont do many miles good idea or not
Im considering these Ns2r. My big question is "getting heat into them". Everybody talks about that. I understand on a track a tire gets warm or hot. But on the road? So my question, on the street how do they drive? When are they "hot"? After 5 mins of normal driving? After 10? Or do they never warm up if you drive normally? Within city traffic. If I get to the highway I wanna take that tight curve fast. But then can I floor it or is the tire not ready after 5 minutes driving out od the city? Can you or anyone give some practical info on when they grip and how do you even know when they are "ready"? On the street driving I mean??
Top speed loss you are experiencing is caused from the 17" rims. I'm running 18" NS2Rs and car still hits the limiter at 253km/h, measured with gps in dashcam. I can agree with the noise, and Nangkangs are louder than Federals.
So you're saying that i can't go +240kmh anymore because i went from 17 inch to 18 inch? Makes sense though, i'am on road tyres again and lighter 18 inch wheels. But still can't hit 240
Dude, total wheel diameter has changed, unless you had your speedo adjusted to match. So your wheels take less rotations to cover the same distance. It’s simple mathematics.
If u loose top speed, its not the tires.. people run this tyres on the nurnbergring.. thats a fast track., they would not use them if they lost 20% top speed..
@@randomtoyotadude8952Engineering student from Germany here! It‘s simple physics/technical mechanics. If tire A has a bigger contact patch than tire B, you will have a worse top speed with tire A, because of the higher amount of friction. Rolling friction is a force which acts parallel to the direction you are travelling (180°). There are a lot of videos explaining these things on UA-cam, I suggest you check them out.
Daily driving semi slicks is a bad idea. Anyone with any clue will tell you that. They're made to operate at high temperature that you will not be reaching on the road so from the start it's pointless. Add the fact that they wear really fast, they're expensive and they're prone to losing traction in the wet/cold and you start to see the picture of actually how counter productive it is. Waste of money at best and dangerous at worst. Oh yea, and the noise is hurrendous! Just don't do it, go for Michelin ps4s or eagle supersports for the road.
I had ps4s its good but not great. Moved to ad08r , never looked behind. All year round including in winter. Of course i have the money to spend so thats why
The ns2r are surprisingly good in the wet and when it is cold. In heavy rain with standing water you have to slow down. You can feel the force of the water and how the tyre is struggling to push the water away. You must slow down.
Traction doesn't let you drive faster in a corner, grip does. Traction and grip are two different things, if you want to talk about tyres you need to learn that.
@@gussinger6939 and they do different things. Traction lets you accelerate. grip lets you corner. More traction will not give you a higher cornering speed.
Yes they do look cool. But are looks really worth dying for ? When you daily drive, you will have zero benefits from those tyres. At least if you, as we do, drive according to the highway code. Because, that amazing grip you talk about, it's only there when the tyres are up to temperature. Which they won't be when you are daily driving. The compound in semi slicks does not work when they are sub-temp. You end up jeopardising the lives of others, paying twice the price for tyres which have half the mileage as decent road tyres. Semi-slicks only serve one purpose, which is driving your car to the race track. They are not very good on track, and useless on public road. It's fair enough you tried it out, and respect to you for concluding it's a no!
I do partly agree, i did not jeopardise other lives, they still perform very good on the road even when they are not hot. And in the rain they still have decent traction. I never have traction issues, and even after 7000km the tyres still have a lot of tread left in them. I have way more traction in wet weather than people with their €50 chinese brand tyres. And these tyres do not cost me more than a premium set of road tyres. If i tracked my car more i would still get them. I just found out that i don’t do that many trackdays as i intended to do at first.
@@bimmerbelgium2254 Yeah, but E50 tyres are useless anyway. And no matter what semi's really doesn't perform well below their temps, and not at all in wet. They should not be legal. They are not very good on track, so why not have sets of dedicated track wheels ?
@@milan.sangha6743 When you end up bending your car around a lamp post at 75 mph, with a baby in a pram stuck between your car and said lamp post. That will cause damage to your car.
@@milan.sangha6743 It's a presentation technique, to visualise my point. I could of course have said "when you bump into a signpost!", but that would not have caught your attention !!
From my own experience. Dry grip is insane (like impossible to try let it slide) but with all the rain and cold in the Benelux you have only a few months to really enjoy them. Worst thing for me was the noise I think.. Cause that gets annoying. I drove 2 summers on 15inch semies on a swift sport. I think they were advan A052. Wheels were ats dtc. The wheels were lightweight but The weight of the tyres is insanely lightweight.
Thanks for your video. I think both semi-slick for daily, but after your video, I changed.
Glad to help
I’m looking to get these with a set of extra rims for the summer months when I do mostly track days and sometimes some spirited touge tours with friends.
For the rest of the year I’ll keep using all season tires as those are then better than pilot sports when it’s colder. I drive about 25k to 30k km a year so I probably do 2 summers with a set.
I daily drive with semi slicks, can't complain about them except for that I need to replace the tires already after 18.000km.
They where not bad, but i prefer road tyres for daily driving though
My Federal rsr are gone after 5000km and I only have 150hp in E36. I drove a little over 2 degree camber all around. But I live near the black forest so lots of windy roads.
@@steffenkawa8374 HP isn't that important, I did 8000 km with high side wall pirellis on my 70hp first car. It's all about how you mistreat them in the corners 😁
I've just put AR1s on my 760li. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Prior to that PS4s but I still got traction loss on occasion. I also went from 265.35.r20 to 285.35.r20. The downside I guess will be the noise but it will be interesting to see where it takes the grip levels too. They're so soft compared to the Michelins.
Hell yeah another upload! Do you plan on going stage 2? If so I'd love some info about oil cooling. A 118i has an oil cooler and I'm looking at fitting that oil cooler with the oil filter housing so its compatible. I believe that's the way to go about it, but no clue honestly.
You better just get an intercooler. My car is getting one next month
@@bimmerbelgium2254 intercooler is for cooling the air that goes through the turbo but the oil cooler cools the engine oil which shouldn't go above 120C. Apologies if I wasn't clear.
That oil cooler for the 118i is not a cooler. It just dispatching oil on a faster rate
@@bimmerbelgium2254 appreciate your help man thankyou. Do you know how we would go about keeping oil temps safe?
@@SassyOnline sell yours buy a 140i and you won’t even need to care about it bro.
Good tyre review 👍🏻
The kitty in your video is adorable
Haha thanks man
I have 13 inch wheels on a classic Bmw 2002 and no real option for road performance tires. They’re all crap. Would this be an option for spirited driving? I only take it the car for a spin when it’s nice and sunny anyway
Yeah they are really good for that. The stick pretty well
I got a e92 335d and when i put my foot down my tyres always loose grip even on straights was thinking of putting semis on i only use the car on weekends as i use my x5 for work so it really dont do many miles good idea or not
Yeah sure, it should work just fine
Im considering these Ns2r. My big question is "getting heat into them". Everybody talks about that. I understand on a track a tire gets warm or hot. But on the road?
So my question, on the street how do they drive? When are they "hot"? After 5 mins of normal driving? After 10? Or do they never warm up if you drive normally? Within city traffic. If I get to the highway I wanna take that tight curve fast. But then can I floor it or is the tire not ready after 5 minutes driving out od the city?
Can you or anyone give some practical info on when they grip and how do you even know when they are "ready"? On the street driving I mean??
Even when they are cold, they provide very good traction for a semi slick. Even in the rain
Drive and feel the grip , over and over until they warm
How would they handle dusty/sandy asphalt roads? I lost grip before more on dusty asphalt than wet asphalt As it rarely rains during the year
They where pretty decent tbh
Thanks for your vídeo. I was doubt if put the Nankang NS2R. But now I Prefer keep my Pirelli PZero
Top speed loss you are experiencing is caused from the 17" rims. I'm running 18" NS2Rs and car still hits the limiter at 253km/h, measured with gps in dashcam.
I can agree with the noise, and Nangkangs are louder than Federals.
So you're saying that i can't go +240kmh anymore because i went from 17 inch to 18 inch? Makes sense though, i'am on road tyres again and lighter 18 inch wheels. But still can't hit 240
This would only be a problem if you badly messed up diameter/circumference calculations and if you do the Speedo being hugely wrong will be a giveaway
Hi mate, what is your 1 series stock specs ? Is it 114i? And also what trim is it?
Hey, it's a 114i, with the basic trim
Bimmer Belgium awesome. When you mean basic trim. Do you mean SE? Also subscribed, your videos are great !
4:40 Driving on a highway doing 120-130 KPH you can definitely hear them. Turn the stereo louder. lol
You still hear them . And i don't want to turn my stereo higher all the time
Is anything wrong you if drive with top speed with that tyres ?
No they are rated for 250kmh
@@bimmerbelgium2254 but if you drive more then that will something happen?
Normally not. When you go +280 the tyre can explode though
What would happen if you went out in snow with these
I guess instant death
It is not perfect in show if done it in a golf mk6 front wheel drive and in my m135i in Holland
You neede to drive real careful
Been using ns2r daily driven for almost 2 years, juz the humming noise a bit annoying
How fast they wear?
They are very good tbh, i sold mine when they had 10000km done and they where still solid
@@bimmerbelgium2254 okay thanks!
Spec tire and wheels please 👍
I believed these where 18 inch 8,5J et38. Tyres where 225/40 and 245/40
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Dude, total wheel diameter has changed, unless you had your speedo adjusted to match. So your wheels take less rotations to cover the same distance. It’s simple mathematics.
I know that😅
3000km in a month damn I’d get a diesel if I drove that much
I drove a lot the first year i got this car. But now i drive less than 2000km a month
Ik zou Nankang ar-1 willen voor mijn golf 7 GTI
How many inch?
18inch
Street orr??
Yeah
@@bimmerbelgium2254 180 Street 😉
Its ofc, ns2r are 50/50 road/track
If u wanna drive fast.. michlin pilot sport 4s is supperior..
Except, they don't make them in the size i need
@@bimmerbelgium2254
Yeah.. same problem here..
They're bad in the wet, yet they're rated B for wet driving? 🔎
I rather talk about personal experience instead of a label. They where pretty scetchy sometimes in the wet
If u loose top speed, its not the tires.. people run this tyres on the nurnbergring.. thats a fast track., they would not use them if they lost 20% top speed..
You gain speed in the corners, you lose them in topspeed due to the extra friction
@@bimmerbelgium2254
I seriously doubt ur statement., cuz i know people who use them in nurnbergring.. search it here in YT!!
But the Nürburgring is not a top speed track lol
@@bimmerbelgium2254
You can reach top speed with most cars, if u cant.. that car do not belong on a track
@@randomtoyotadude8952Engineering student from Germany here! It‘s simple physics/technical mechanics. If tire A has a bigger contact patch than tire B, you will have a worse top speed with tire A, because of the higher amount of friction. Rolling friction is a force which acts parallel to the direction you are travelling (180°). There are a lot of videos explaining these things on UA-cam, I suggest you check them out.
Daily driving semi slicks is a bad idea. Anyone with any clue will tell you that. They're made to operate at high temperature that you will not be reaching on the road so from the start it's pointless. Add the fact that they wear really fast, they're expensive and they're prone to losing traction in the wet/cold and you start to see the picture of actually how counter productive it is. Waste of money at best and dangerous at worst. Oh yea, and the noise is hurrendous! Just don't do it, go for Michelin ps4s or eagle supersports for the road.
Yep i experienced that, i'm back on road tyres now
I had ps4s its good but not great. Moved to ad08r , never looked behind. All year round including in winter. Of course i have the money to spend so thats why
@@smcgmail8238same here mx5nc proxes
The ns2r are surprisingly good in the wet and when it is cold.
In heavy rain with standing water you have to slow down. You can feel the force of the water and how the tyre is struggling to push the water away. You must slow down.
Traction doesn't let you drive faster in a corner, grip does. Traction and grip are two different things, if you want to talk about tyres you need to learn that.
I think we all know what i mean. I hear people mixing these up all the time
Both are friction but in different directions, right? Please correct me
@@gussinger6939 and they do different things. Traction lets you accelerate. grip lets you corner. More traction will not give you a higher cornering speed.
@@bence.gabor.slezak when tyre have good grip,usualy have a good traction too!
Actually in motorsports the concept is called the "traction circle" and represents the grip from acceleration, braking and lateral forces.
That shitty car dont need slicks 😂
Your opinion is not important or relevant
Yes they do look cool. But are looks really worth dying for ?
When you daily drive, you will have zero benefits from those tyres. At least if you, as we do, drive according to the highway code.
Because, that amazing grip you talk about, it's only there when the tyres are up to temperature. Which they won't be when you are daily driving. The compound in semi slicks does not work when they are sub-temp.
You end up jeopardising the lives of others, paying twice the price for tyres which have half the mileage as decent road tyres.
Semi-slicks only serve one purpose, which is driving your car to the race track. They are not very good on track, and useless on public road.
It's fair enough you tried it out, and respect to you for concluding it's a no!
I do partly agree, i did not jeopardise other lives, they still perform very good on the road even when they are not hot. And in the rain they still have decent traction. I never have traction issues, and even after 7000km the tyres still have a lot of tread left in them. I have way more traction in wet weather than people with their €50 chinese brand tyres. And these tyres do not cost me more than a premium set of road tyres. If i tracked my car more i would still get them. I just found out that i don’t do that many trackdays as i intended to do at first.
@@bimmerbelgium2254 Yeah, but E50 tyres are useless anyway. And no matter what semi's really doesn't perform well below their temps, and not at all in wet. They should not be legal. They are not very good on track, so why not have sets of dedicated track wheels ?
Don't do it! its stupid and only damages the car
Yeah after these i'm going to drive street tyres again
Mathias Meijer how does it damage the car?
@@milan.sangha6743 When you end up bending your car around a lamp post at 75 mph, with a baby in a pram stuck between your car and said lamp post. That will cause damage to your car.
@@thefreedomguyuk why would I be going 75mph in the first place or why would there be a baby in a pram on the moterway💀
@@milan.sangha6743 It's a presentation technique, to visualise my point. I could of course have said "when you bump into a signpost!", but that would not have caught your attention !!