We're already long overdue for a purchase of articulated trolleybuses, as basically the majority of trolleybus routes are way too overcrowded for 12 meter vehicles. The SORs are at least some progress, however the paint job looks very cheap, especially the sharp edges by the driver's window on the left. All the other cities with these trolleys have nicer paint jobs with smoother shapes. Another problem is that the mechanics which were responsible for the degradation of 14TRs are the same ones who will be repairing 32TRs. However, of course the biggest issue is the decision to remove the overhead lines in the old town, which is essentially going to make larger extensions outside of the existing network unviable, and will be used as an excuse to terminate one of the lines. At the same time, tenders are being organised for some new extremely duplicative 12 meter electric bus lines, which would currently be around 50% under trolley wires - a true waste, and since they will be operated by other companies (which also leads to situation of bus lines being cut down in frequency at the start of school year), there's an absolute 0% chance that we'd see trolleybuses on them one day.
@@PtrkHrnk There may be differences since the TNS are sold directly by SOR, while these are from Škoda. Local TNS 18 have 5 seats in the rear, but there's more room for AC, batteries and the electric equipment on the roof of the articulated version. There were two NBH 18 without rear seats.
While it's of course good that those new trolleybuses are being introduced in place of old Škoda 14Tr, calling this an "upgrade" is a bit of a stretch. I would call it basic maintenance, a bit like washing/wiping ass after taking a number 2. Vilnius public transport has been facing catastrophic underinvestment for decades and it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon, which means, public transport in Vilnius will keep deteriorating and probably soon fall below the likes of Chisinau or Skopje, if it hasn't already. It's a very sad state of affairs and it's very unfortunate that neither the city government nor the society seem to see this as a problem.
@@kazkoksaiponas Yes, absence of trams/light rail or any other rail transport is another indicator that things have gone really bad with public transport here.
@jonarthritiskwanhc To be honest, I don't know much about it, so could well be better. Vilnius public transport has fallen way below of what is acceptable in a civilised European country.
@@electrotransport6569 what do those seats do? except that, solaris trolleybuses can offer everything that sor one has (that i can think of rn) - it could mount a battery, utilize a radio controlled overhead wire switch thingies (idk how they are called). but solaris has a sturdier design and the whole trolleybus doesnt rattle as much as sor one does. the second time i rode a 32tr, i just took a screw out of its socket. no force, no uscrewing it - it was just mounted poorly. sor maybe better just cause vilnius decided to spend more money and get more features that it didnt want when purchasing solaris
New trolleybuses already showed they new features. When marathon was in Vilnius 2 trolleybus route worked in places where trolleybuses newer been.
Yes! Some clips in that video showed that😁
I don't live there . But Trolleybusses are still a very important vehicle . More systems are needed worldwide ❤❤
We're already long overdue for a purchase of articulated trolleybuses, as basically the majority of trolleybus routes are way too overcrowded for 12 meter vehicles.
The SORs are at least some progress, however the paint job looks very cheap, especially the sharp edges by the driver's window on the left. All the other cities with these trolleys have nicer paint jobs with smoother shapes. Another problem is that the mechanics which were responsible for the degradation of 14TRs are the same ones who will be repairing 32TRs.
However, of course the biggest issue is the decision to remove the overhead lines in the old town, which is essentially going to make larger extensions outside of the existing network unviable, and will be used as an excuse to terminate one of the lines. At the same time, tenders are being organised for some new extremely duplicative 12 meter electric bus lines, which would currently be around 50% under trolley wires - a true waste, and since they will be operated by other companies (which also leads to situation of bus lines being cut down in frequency at the start of school year), there's an absolute 0% chance that we'd see trolleybuses on them one day.
Fully agree with you. Glad to see some improvement, but this is just one step from what has to be done.
What model 18m trolleybusses do you think vilnius will buy?
Solaris Trollino 18 (or Škoda 27Tr), or Škoda 33Tr. I don’t think they will introduce any other brand. But let’s see😁
1:19 Hmm... Is it really SOR TNS if it has a NS bus body?
I thought TNS is trolleybus based on NS bus.
@@firstlast1932 It is. But there are supposed to be differences. Notably the the trolleybus body doesn't have engine tower at the rear left corner.
@@PtrkHrnk There may be differences since the TNS are sold directly by SOR, while these are from Škoda.
Local TNS 18 have 5 seats in the rear, but there's more room for AC, batteries and the electric equipment on the roof of the articulated version.
There were two NBH 18 without rear seats.
Condensation and mold: Vilnius residents complain about new trolleybuses. Lithuanians buy our BKM 321 close and cheaper (only 200 km delivery)
While it's of course good that those new trolleybuses are being introduced in place of old Škoda 14Tr, calling this an "upgrade" is a bit of a stretch. I would call it basic maintenance, a bit like washing/wiping ass after taking a number 2. Vilnius public transport has been facing catastrophic underinvestment for decades and it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon, which means, public transport in Vilnius will keep deteriorating and probably soon fall below the likes of Chisinau or Skopje, if it hasn't already. It's a very sad state of affairs and it's very unfortunate that neither the city government nor the society seem to see this as a problem.
Also extremely sad that Vilnius doesn’t have trams
@@kazkoksaiponas Yes, absence of trams/light rail or any other rail transport is another indicator that things have gone really bad with public transport here.
I am sure the public transport system in Chisinau is much better...
@jonarthritiskwanhc To be honest, I don't know much about it, so could well be better. Vilnius public transport has fallen way below of what is acceptable in a civilised European country.
@@jonarthritiskwanhc it is not.
driving in solaris trollino 12 somehow feels much better, the 32tr's feel cheaply made, compared to it
Solaris is much cheaper actually. Sor trolleybusese have anti-vandal seats. It is new requirement of city government
@@electrotransport6569 what do those seats do? except that, solaris trolleybuses can offer everything that sor one has (that i can think of rn) - it could mount a battery, utilize a radio controlled overhead wire switch thingies (idk how they are called). but solaris has a sturdier design and the whole trolleybus doesnt rattle as much as sor one does. the second time i rode a 32tr, i just took a screw out of its socket. no force, no uscrewing it - it was just mounted poorly. sor maybe better just cause vilnius decided to spend more money and get more features that it didnt want when purchasing solaris
@@stealthypanzer anti-vandal seets iš needed because city have a new requirement. they use it to have less operational fees.
2:45 those seats were removed because of some norms🤷♀️