I am 5’4” and 68 years old with riding experience dating to 1970. These are all great tips which I learned through the school of hard knocks over the years. Thanks for a great video.
I’m a 5’4 dude who rides a stock height 2002 R6. You just learn what you can and can’t do. It’s not gonna stop me from enjoying motorcycles. You just adapt
I'm 5'4" with a 25" inseam (all torso) I've only had two issues when it comes to being short on a sport style bike. The first one I had a 'Duhh' moment after parking in parking spots that were either inclined, angled, or both. I just had to back into the spots and it made it so much easier to let the bike do the work to get out, instead of having to try and walk the bike out backwards and up hill. The other was was having paneers on my bike, I had to throw a 180 degree spin kick while pivoting on my left foot to get my short legs over the paneers, wide bike equals longer throw of the leg. I've been a bicycle mechanic for over 24 year's and I always stopped left foot down, so my balance when coming to a stop on my motorcycles has always been easy peasy.
How much of your foot touches the ground I have 250 ninja and literally I’m almost on the tip of my toes or just under and backing up it’s really hard especially when I’m wearing shoes well sneaker crocs because my boots don’t fit under the shifter so I’m learning with my shoes first but when I go to back up I feel like I’m not getting enough grip on the ground to push the bike back and the trick where you hold the front brake and roll back doesn’t always work because I’m still using the tip of my toes
@@SheekAlibaba I’m on a ninja 250 and it’s manageable but it’s still hard and sometimes I gotta take my helmet off and hop back on because I’m sweating bullets trying to park
Lowering a bike is a fantastic idea for short riders! I spent several years on a DRZ that was too tall and too heavy and I never got comfortable. When I bought my 350EXCF, I immediately lowered it 2 inches and heard all about how it would ruin the geometry, performance and ground clearance, but you know what happened?....I fell less, enjoyed riding more, rode more and became a better rider. 1 year on a bike that I could actually reach the ground on (just one foot), and it made me so much more relaxed and confident, NOW I can handle a tall bike without lowering it. I just bought a 690 Enduro and I have no plans to lower it. And, I still fall off...90% of the time, I'm at a stop and trying to get on or off the bike, but I'm having such a good time, I don't care and I'm not injuring myself. If you're thinking about lowering your bike, do it. Don't listen to taller, highly skilled riders that suggest you just learn to deal with it...some of the tips in this video are great, but the part about avoiding lowering is ridiculous.
Lowering your bike is ridiculous and absurd. It destroys the handling of a bike, takes away ground clearance, and changes the geometry in such a way that can be damgerous.
I added a lowering link to my Hypermotard AND dropped the front the identical distance. It worked pretty well and at 5'5'" almost essential, even with a short seat.
Made that mistake Tim. Sat on a bike with my 5'4, felt super comfortable since I was flat-footed and bought it. Now the twist: Im 48 kilograms, my bike is 212. I couldn't move the thing if my life depended on it. So yeah, by now I'm definitely checking for height AND weight. xD
Excellent video, as usual! I’m a short rider (5’4”) and was convinced I needed to find a bike I could flatfoot. I rode a Sportster for a while because of its super low seat height, but I’m really not all that into cruisers and the Sportster is a lead sled with crappy brakes. I saw a few videos that finally convinced me flatfooting is not necessary, and the left foot down method is really much better. They were right! When coming to a stop I just slide my butt over an inch or two to the left and put my left foot down while keeping my right foot on the brake pedal. It actually feels more stable than putting both feet down, and using the rear brake at a stop is much safer. If I were to get rear-ended with the front brake locked it would send me ass over teakettle, but with the rear brake I would slide forward instead. I bought a 2020 Triumph Bonneville T-120 and the 31” seat height is just about perfect. I love the upright riding position, better brakes, and more power than the old Sportster, too. I use the right side mounting technique from this video, placing my right foot on the right peg and swinging my left leg over the seat. I haven’t yet worked up the nerve to attempt the side stand turn, but one day…
Similar story man, I’m 5’4, 28 inch inseam. But I’ve not driven a motorcycle yet. I understand it’s a good idea to start with a lower displacement bike, and I was looking at rebel 500s. But they just aren’t attractive to me. An SV650 or triumph trident 660 would be great, I’d just greatly benefit if I can shave 1.5 inches off the seat.
I'm all for giraffe bikes and tons of suspension travel, but I can't ride something like the Africa Twin and hit a stop light without looking like a dog pissing on a 2-story fire hydrant. And heaven help me if I hit stop-and-go rush hour traffic.
As a 5ft 2 rider with a F800GS, i have no issuse riding with the lower seat setting. However, I've decided to lower it by 2inch using the touratech set as it does give me more confidence (not for stopping with two legs down, I've always had the habit of only having the left leg down only). My workplace has an inclined hill parking lot and I often has a pillion with me. Thus I've decided to lower it just so it's easier for me to maneuvure around it. I do agree that the bike is weightless when I'm riding and if i am riding solo, I absolutely have no issues using just the low seat setting. For people considering lowering the suspension, do take note that your side and main stand does get affected.
bruh what i looked at that bike like 2 seconds ago as a joke because i am the same height as you. how tf are you riding that? its 34 inches stock i checked on cycle ergo and i was litterally floating on that thing. i had to decrease the height by 3.5 inches just for my toes to hit the floor
Thank you o Harley, for saving our shorter riders with the variable seat height on the Pan America. I hope more dual sport type motorcycles implement this tech.
My msf course taught us to always put your left down first because you should have your right foot on your brake while stopping. And its been really helpful
For an average rider, having an overly tall bike is just an exercise in frustration in most everyday scenarios, like being stuck in stop-and-go traffic, waiting at an intersection, etc. Lastly, when off-road and having to deal with low traction scenarios like mud or sand, it's super confidence inspiring for a new to average rider to be able to easily dab on each side. Lastly, again for an average rider, a loss in ground clearance or suspension travel is not that huge of a deal, since that type of rider is unlikely to be doing the kind of aggressive riding that would take full advantage of full suspension travel and ground clearance. I am making generalizations here, so YMMW.
I’m only 5’5” and have ridden every type of motorcycle there is, from a 2k miles trip in an hd electa glide to a bmw f700 through Morocco, from my gsxr1k track bike to my husqvarna SM 449, I even road tested a gs1200 one time, there’s nothing you can’t ride, these are all good tips but the best tip is don’t get discouraged, just ride whatever you want, you’ll figure it out, of course if you’re still learning, a smaller bike is much preferable, but eventually you’ll be able to ride anything.
Can't begin to tell you how much actually adjusting your bike's suspension for your weight AND RIDING ABILITY makes a difference. It's more than just setting the preload and leaving it. Setting compression and rebound damping can make a huge difference even for street riding, and your perception of your bike's handling will drastically change your confidence level. More confidence makes taller bikes seem shorter so it all helps.
I'm a manlet and I approve this video. Now, seriously I'm 5'5 and I bought a custom bike because of this, my old bike was super tall and I feel very insecure and ashamed riding it.
I’ve been riding a cbr 1000rr for 4 years and had multiple 600s before that and I’m 5’6. Just put your left foot down and learn to switch feet if you have too. You don’t have to have two feet on the ground to ride a bike
Two small issues with #1: - in the UK we ride on the left, on roads which have a built in camber where the centre or the road is higher than the left hand edge…so essentially you’re leaning the bike downhill. - there’s more grit and gravel on the left hand of the road, and with one foot balancing, if that foot slides, you’re done for
Malaysia also follow UK, ride on the left side and there's tarmac with higher at the center of the Road which make shortie like me hard to put leg land on land so i tend to put both because my left leg is dominant
Also the “small” selection of leather jackets are a pain in the ass for me. Small is actually a medium for most manufactures except rs taichi but they’re always out of stock
@@michaelconran5252 I basically have the same problem but with pants. all riding pants sold in indonesia are always too long yet the size has never been more than 34
@@michaelconran5252 I have this problem with shirts I’m around 5’2” and I have to wear xl shirts with most brands. But the xl looks a little long and sleeves are to tight. I haven’t tried a jacket yet but more than likely the same issue
I needed this video. Went to the bike shop to look at bikes and was not ready for how tall they actually were. The only bike I felt confident enough to sit on was the ktm 390 and that was still a stretch. I'm sure I could ride a taller bike, but I really need to build confidence first. My biggest problem is the lack of used bikes for sale and the reality of buying a new bike before I feel some what confident is like throwing $8-9k through a paper shredder. Anways, I love your sense of humor. Thanks for the content.
Adding to the left food down practice. Keeping the rear brake on until you come to a stop lowers the seat height by compressing the rear suspension. If you put your right foot down at a stop your releasing the rear brake suddenly increasing the seat height at the exact moment your reaching for the ground.
Best thing I did on my KLR was lowering the front and rear. Handles better and the wind doesn't blow me around as much. Not a beginner, been riding and racing bikes for 50 + years.
Lowering also requires a different kickstand. I learned this the hard way. It stands the bike up straighter, but it also makes the bike less stable while parked. Susceptible to blow over by wind, or a glance from a gorgeous woman.
I’ve had a couple situations where I came to a stop with my left foot and I stepped on a small rock, which proceeded to roll under my foot.. and then I slipped and fell off the bike..
You are supposed to balance it until you are at a complete stop and then put your left foot down. If you put your feet down before it's fully stopped you can drop it even if you flat foot both feet.
@@simplerider3159 yup came to a stop for sure, put my foot down and slipped sideways - bike fell over to the left and I fell on top of it towards the right. Just sheer bad luck, and yet I still stop with one foot
Years ago, I dropped my FJR in the toll booth (before the electronic gizmos, u actually had to stop and pay). The rain had just started and there was so much oil covering the ground from stopping cars that leak. Anyway, it took multiple people to help me get it uprighted because of the oil and angle. I had the frame sliders, which lots of people gave me grief about, but it stopped any real damage from happening.
I have a 30 inch inseam. I also have a wr250r with a 36.6 inch seat height. The factory rear shock has about 20mm of lowering adjustment. So I dropped that 20mm. Then I moved to the front and slid the forks about to compensate and once I am on, I am pretty comfortable on it. It sinks quite a bit when I get my weight on it. I just kick stand it, step on the peg, lift over the seat, and then I can reach no problem. I'm not flat footed, but I'm more than tippytoes. If I lean just a bit I can flat foot one side, which is all I really need. When I first got it I was ready to order the lowered seat concepts seat, yamalink, and smaller tires. Now I'm glad I saved my money.
Never rode a bike before but thinking of taking the class this summer. Honestly, the only concern I had or have is that I'm short (5'5). After watching lots of videos, it seems that it shouldn't matter as much as I thought!
Number 1 : definitly disagree : It suppose to keep first gear engaged, holding cluch lever during all the time you are stopped. Bad for the cluch, and dangerous in case of thometing goes wrong...you risk to untimely start while loosing balance. i am 5,57 feet. What I do since 1987 (Transalp,Ducati Multistrada 2011, Africatwin 2022) : - Neutral just before stop. - right foot on the ground - front break to maintain the byke if necessary. - left foot on the footrest. - when starting : first gear, front break and cluch release...right foot on the footrest. Never fell.
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I don't know what they teach in MSF courses in the US, but in Europe, mainly Portugal in my case, we are taught to ALWAYS put your left foot down no matter what and to keep the right foot and your right hand on the brakes when stopped, and only transition feet to go into first gear and start riding.
I considered lowering my bike slightly because I tend to slide forward slightly and squeeze my essentials on the "tank". But, I attached a couple of pads to the tank that gave me a better grip with my knees.
I'm 6'1" & didn't have to lower my first 6 motorcycles. I had to lower the next 2 because today many motorcycles come with horrible seats designed for shorter riders. Problem is they are painful to sit on. So you buy a wider, thicker seat & now you're 3" higher & your legs are spread out more. I could manage being on my toes if I wasn't old & weak or if I rode a 125. But what a hassle at 64. My ankles aren't strong enough to trust anymore. Lowering links & raised forks worked out great. No compromises. Suzuki Vstrom 650 & Honda NC700X. Motorcycle companies should make a comfortable seat, adjustable for 30-33 inches.
I'm a short rider, own a KLR-650 and do exactly the opposite of what you recommend in a couple of your points: I put my right foot down most of the times when I stop to be able to use my left foot to shift into neutral and use the hand brake to prevent the bike from moving if required, and I mount the bike from the left, putting my whole weight on the peg and catching the bike with my right foot after swinging my leg. Your advise, tough maybe good for some, seems awkward and counterintuitive for me regarding these two points, especially the one of mounting the bike from the right. The minute you put pressure on the right peg the bike will lean into you, so I really don't understand how that would work.
This guy giving out advice to short rider is like having a 6'5'' basketball player telling us shorties that we cant dunk because we're crybaby and didnt work hard enough.
Being taller is only a plus when you're new. As soon as you get some skill and confidence you can ride nearly anything. But when you're tall finding a bike for your daily riding is harder, there's less options that can be comfortable enough for frequent and prolonged use and for the most part it's adv bikes even if you want something more street oriented. Shorter riders can not only achieve ideal body positioning on a bike because it's with them in mind that bikes are designed but also can ride pretty much whatever they want because riding a taller motorcycle is merely about having enough experience and control rather than being able to flat foot it.
I lowered my R15 so I will get the confidence and not to worry about getting off balance and drop the bike and get injured. Right now it still works for me. and also our path way is very narrow I needed both my foot the reach the ground in order to move the bike in reverse while riding it.
Im 5'7 and got mt first bike. The thing is, I haven't yet tried it on roads but just sitting on it and tip toeing seems dangerous. Not to mention reversing is hell unless I hop off
@@AlmostLakai94 some local made scrambler from an indian bike. Got it for a grand and runs really good. Despite tip toeing I am able to drive it very good and face no problem, not even on hills. Whatcha getting?
@@Skiplegday18591 still looking for future reference but I was leaning towards a XR650L but those are probably some of the tallest bikes out lol. I didn't realize til I noticed 300s were common 😂
@@AlmostLakai94 ah damn, got a neighbour who's exactly my height and drives a honda degree 250. Not sure how easy is it to learn on though. But definitely doable
I would argue being comfortable putting your right foot down is just as important if you're a short rider. Just saying when you come to an off camber stop sign and your high ground is on the right you wanna be comfortable bringing your bike to a complete stop smoothly with the front brake so your right foot is free to put down. How come nobody ever talks about this!?
Because it's a bit safer to put your left foot down, with the right foot on the rear brake (especially if your stopping on an incline), and in with your left hand on the clutch ready to take off from 1st gear... That being said, aside from the reason you listed, my weak ass gets tired holding in my R6 clutch in stop and go traffic and being all hunched over like a gargoyle, so I like to put it in neutral to be able to let go of the clip-ons to stand up straight and relax. Maybe I should stop riding a frigging super-sport in traffic... 🤔
Because most people that make these lists are 6'4". Ever see an off-camber traffic light at the top of a hill? You better know how to stop with your right foot down and hill-hold with your front brake. Setting off isn't that hard - once you get to the friction point just release the front brake, increase throttle, and away you go. When you are short being proficient at right foot down stops is just as important as left foot down stops.
@@thespectator5259 Word I get it, it is safer. And that's always the best way to stop the bike. I just mean being ambidextrous can help save a drop if you can't get the left foot down
Yammie such good advice. When I finality my dream sport tourer, Kawasaki Concours 1400, I was so afraid of dropping it I was clenched so tight. I was not quite balls of the feet. Now I had ridden this bike tons at many factory demo rides and never worried about dropping their bikes. So as I got more comfortable, and realized that if you stop clenching your ass like you’re trying to make diamonds your legs will get about an inch longer. Fast forward and I just added a rediculously tall Ducati Multistrada Enduro to my stable, and well no I can’t touch with both feet. Okay ballet toes, but that ain’t cutting it. However the bike is incredibly well balanced and a little slide off the seat to left and it’s totally stable at a stop. And knowing I was never going to be able to duck walk it I tested walking it at the dealer before I bought it. Now will I be able to do that when all the panniers are loaded, we’ll see. But they do come off so…….
Mamae i really greatful for you advise when I was first started riding bikes and followed you till you had accident and then moved on and it is really nice to see you getting close to the goal you promised years ago and I am happy for you!
I drive a lowered fz6 and im gona get a lowered seat too but in 5,2 50kg so ahh yeah kinda needed. Never gona do a flat foot with both legs but its not needed. The guy i bought the bike off said "you have to have boot feet down" but he flat centered the tyres so taken his "advise" with a huge pill of salt. He was also in his 60's and sold the bike with 20k less milage on it. I got me a steal 😁
Today I ordered a 40mm lowering kit for my KLX250, and with a buddy lowered the front forks just over an inch and screwed the rear shock adjuster as low as it will go. I can now bend my knees flat-footed, but still looking forward to the lowering kit too, because I love adventuring on old logging roads and such. In muddy ruts and things every mm helps. I used to have the little 150cc version, tiny little bike but because it was so small, low and light I could go anywhere where with that thing - except deep rivers. I use my snorkled truck for those ;)
I thought I wanted a CRF300L for my first bike until I realized I can’t even flat foot a Svartpilen at 5’8”. But the Svart is so badass that I think I can wait to get a dual sport sometime down the road :)
I lowered a Triumph Speed Triple I owned and it was never right after that, gave it to a tall friend who took the lowering kit off and it was fine. The kit was installed originally by a Triumph dealership.
Just pull the cover and trim your seat foam instead of fng with the suspension. I'm too short for my YZ250 without rocking tip toes. Cut one of my seats into a more classic saddle shape instead of flat. Perfect.
Me personally with being 5 foot 2 inches. I've been reading up things that you can do to avoid barely being on your tippy toes. The one thing I'd try first is having less suspension. I'm not saying adjust it. I'm saying have it replaced with one that's right for your weight. Since I'm 170lbs, I may wanna go with suspension that'll help the bike fall a tad bit lower than the other suspension. This method wouldn't disrupt the geometry of the bike like adding lowering links or tightening up the suspension or anything like that would.
Damn. That picture of dude dragging knee from the car door is hilarious. I immediately paused the video and hit Google to find it. I’ll keep it handy to make my dad piss himself laughing one day, 😂. Thanks.
Finally someone said it. I cant even count how many people ive seen talking about lowering their grom and i try to warn them what its going to do to their handling and people just dont seem to understand.
@@daviddinh9243 idk man. My roommate and i both have groms and he lowered his and its pretty awful. Took a fun little fuck around bike and made it as little fun as possible.
I’m 5’6 and my first bike was a drz400s(not the supermoto) brand new from a dealer. I won’t lie I dropped it the first three times I tried to stop lmao. Now I’m comfortable daily driving the bike stopping on hills, etc. I may look like a child riding but i don’t care. Ride the bike you want to ride.
Another great video. I'm short enough I can't even flat foot a ninja 400. It's close, but not quite. Appreciate the tips since I don't want to be stuck on a low slung cruiser.
Great vid, and some of the riding footage at end of vid looked like Rt. 6 on Cape Cod. Made me want to go on vacation. I’m looking at a Kawasaki 650 LR. I have a 32” inseam while the bike has a 34” seat height. Salesman told me I’m not tall enough for that bike. I went home disappointed, then decided to take charge, work out the issue and (hopefully) prove the salesman wrong. So I plan to wear my riding boots to the dealership (they have 2” heels) and sit on the bike again and see how the boots help. I can then lower the seat in addition if I need to, later. There’s a great vid on UA-cam where a guy shows you how to shave some height off the seat. Thank you for this vid, you’ve empowered me to go back to the dealership armed with ideas.
When you are on extreme tippy toes and there is a depression in the road at a stop that maybe you didn’t see, you can get tipped too far before your foot is planted and the bike falls. That’s the only time I dropped it, but I am old and I threw my back out trying to save it. I ride a T-7. I am 5-9 and shrinking. I am trying the low seat first. I don’t ride single track or anything too challenging. Just fire roads and trails. The other issue is picking up that tall top heavy bike with a full tank of gas by myself was a real struggle. 😅
Thank you for the cycle ergo site recommendation. This is what I need, especially with being a short ass and not being able to actually see a bike due to lockdown! 😃
Yes lower your bike a tad if you have to. I'm 5-9 now and with a bit of a left hip issue. Try riding a stock KDX220 like that. So I put the lowering link in to drop it a little and the forks a little bit too.
Experience helps a lot, I found that if I could touch the floor on my first bike it's one less thing you worry about while still getting used to riding, then your second bike you tend not to worry about the seat height as much. As you've gained a lot of confidence just from experience.
5"6 dude with shorter leg proportion here to confirm that it's MUCH easier to mount your bike by stepping on the left peg rather than the right. The bike wont even move at all and you'll be sitting on a bike with already lowered left side rather than having to catch the right side with your foot. Just make sure that you lean your body to meet the center of mass so you wont flip your bike. Also getting some weight (muscle weight, don't get obese) will compress both suspensions and it will lower your bike as well. Also learn to navigate your body weight on your bike and then you'll be able to mount and dismount from any side of your bike. from short dude riding a duke and a dirt bike
good job on the sisters representation in this video. I am all for that, especially when it comes to close up shots, with a slight back orientation of the camera.
The one about using the footpeg to get on. I do it all the time on my klr650, but NEVER on the right side, always on the kickstand side. it'd be tipping over before I could even get my leg over once the suspension compresses. The kickstand should be more than strong enough to support your weight and the bikes at that type of angle. With bags and rear case it's hard to throw my leg over having a 31inch inseam.
Only recently saw this video. I'm short (5ft,2). I ride two different bikes. An Honda Africa Twin from 2019 and a Suzuki DRZ 400 from 2005. The Honda isn't lowered. I simply slide to one side to get just enough toes on the ground to keep the bike balanced. The DRZ is lowered bij 9 centimeters. But I didn't do it the cheap way. It has been lowered by Hyperpro Suspension who are specialized in it. They changed the whole suspension. That way the handling is still ok or even better then the original. It's still hilarious to see me jumping on it while letting it start rolling when standing next to it etc.
I lowered my dual sport, a Honda xr250 Tornado. Rear suspension has an extra hole for lowering an fork has a small snap ring to lower it evenly. Everyone who rides it likes it. I have long legs so the high position wasn't a problem. What is a problem is I'm 71 years old and my wife isn't a lot younger. Low position just makes getting on easier
At just over 6 feet tall when not slouching , riding a small 250, I find no issue dealing with it , flat feet anywhere I want. After riding on a 500 ktm the first time , I quickly discovered to not be cocky with my feet placement.
There is a guy named Billy Mayhem out of Seattle who does custom bikes. He showed me a bike he had modified for a gent with dwarfism. He set it up with servo motors so when he stopped he could drop the kick stand by pressing a button. He physically could not get to it without the mod. Made an untenable situation no prob and got one more of us on the road! At 5 9 with a 30 inch inseam the Ninja 250 and now my Ninja 300 work fine for me out of the box! I was hoping the 400 would be more of the same, since that is probably my next bike.
No matter what you are told by taller people , it is essential in difficult situations to be able to duck walk a bike . The greatest enduro riders in the world duck walk , in favour of stalling and tipping over. On the road you are told just put one foot down ….yes in 95 per cent of scenarios , but try that on a cambered and 30 degree incline when a truck in front of you suddenly stops , and you have to stop on that incline without the bike sliding backwards or tipping over. That leg for back brake is the only leg that reaches the ground , you have to keep that front brake squeezed for all your worth until , you let the clutch out up that incline without stalling. Many other scenarios …just lower your suspension …it works .
Just got my first bike. 2022 KLR650 Adventure. Dropped it going downhill trying to stop with my left foot on the ground. I definitely suck hardcore at this.
I am 6 feet, riding 50 odd years. Just bought an aprilia shiver. It's crazy tall; my feet are light on the ground and have a miserable turning circle. I was very comfortable on my last blackbird.
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More of this kind of episodes please 🎯🎯💯💯🚀🚀
Im 5'1 and yet im still rockin with all the adv and cruiser bikes
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How did you know I needed these tips...
You're 6ft to me baby
just don't grow your beard over 3 feet or you will trip on it and break your neck
IM NOT SHORT I JUST HAVE A TALL BIKE!!! ;)
Yeah, me too
That's the right attitude
same
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dont kid urself. ur short
I am 5’4” and 68 years old with riding experience dating to 1970. These are all great tips which I learned through the school of hard knocks over the years. Thanks for a great video.
Hey, is 5'7" enough to ride?
@@neoleonor7140obviously!
I’m a 5’4 dude who rides a stock height 2002 R6. You just learn what you can and can’t do. It’s not gonna stop me from enjoying motorcycles. You just adapt
I'm 5'4" with a 25" inseam (all torso) I've only had two issues when it comes to being short on a sport style bike. The first one I had a 'Duhh' moment after parking in parking spots that were either inclined, angled, or both. I just had to back into the spots and it made it so much easier to let the bike do the work to get out, instead of having to try and walk the bike out backwards and up hill. The other was was having paneers on my bike, I had to throw a 180 degree spin kick while pivoting on my left foot to get my short legs over the paneers, wide bike equals longer throw of the leg.
I've been a bicycle mechanic for over 24 year's and I always stopped left foot down, so my balance when coming to a stop on my motorcycles has always been easy peasy.
I'm the same height what bigger bike (that can run on the high way) do u recommend
How much of your foot touches the ground I have 250 ninja and literally I’m almost on the tip of my toes or just under and backing up it’s really hard especially when I’m wearing shoes well sneaker crocs because my boots don’t fit under the shifter so I’m learning with my shoes first but when I go to back up I feel like I’m not getting enough grip on the ground to push the bike back and the trick where you hold the front brake and roll back doesn’t always work because I’m still using the tip of my toes
@@SheekAlibaba I’m on a ninja 250 and it’s manageable but it’s still hard and sometimes I gotta take my helmet off and hop back on because I’m sweating bullets trying to park
@@jourdan2047 I just got my 250 2011 with 700 miles for 1k
@@jourdan2047 your height?
Lowering a bike is a fantastic idea for short riders! I spent several years on a DRZ that was too tall and too heavy and I never got comfortable. When I bought my 350EXCF, I immediately lowered it 2 inches and heard all about how it would ruin the geometry, performance and ground clearance, but you know what happened?....I fell less, enjoyed riding more, rode more and became a better rider. 1 year on a bike that I could actually reach the ground on (just one foot), and it made me so much more relaxed and confident, NOW I can handle a tall bike without lowering it. I just bought a 690 Enduro and I have no plans to lower it. And, I still fall off...90% of the time, I'm at a stop and trying to get on or off the bike, but I'm having such a good time, I don't care and I'm not injuring myself. If you're thinking about lowering your bike, do it. Don't listen to taller, highly skilled riders that suggest you just learn to deal with it...some of the tips in this video are great, but the part about avoiding lowering is ridiculous.
Lowering your bike is ridiculous and absurd. It destroys the handling of a bike, takes away ground clearance, and changes the geometry in such a way that can be damgerous.
I added a lowering link to my Hypermotard AND dropped the front the identical distance. It worked pretty well and at 5'5'" almost essential, even with a short seat.
If I was short I'd start with number 7 and just go around dealerships and sit on a bunch of bikes to find out what I was comfortable on.
Trust me, that gives you like 3 options. Mods are usually required for us shorties.
@@House_of_Zodd my guess would be cruisers mostly.
@Anthony Callahan yeah I forgot how low the seat is on those. :) A Hayabusa sitting beside a new Katana, .. what a difference!!
Shouldn't be forced onto a softail slim - though its kinda fun ,but im shopping for a new sportbike,busa ?
Made that mistake Tim. Sat on a bike with my 5'4, felt super comfortable since I was flat-footed and bought it. Now the twist: Im 48 kilograms, my bike is 212. I couldn't move the thing if my life depended on it.
So yeah, by now I'm definitely checking for height AND weight. xD
Excellent video, as usual! I’m a short rider (5’4”) and was convinced I needed to find a bike I could flatfoot. I rode a Sportster for a while because of its super low seat height, but I’m really not all that into cruisers and the Sportster is a lead sled with crappy brakes. I saw a few videos that finally convinced me flatfooting is not necessary, and the left foot down method is really much better. They were right! When coming to a stop I just slide my butt over an inch or two to the left and put my left foot down while keeping my right foot on the brake pedal. It actually feels more stable than putting both feet down, and using the rear brake at a stop is much safer. If I were to get rear-ended with the front brake locked it would send me ass over teakettle, but with the rear brake I would slide forward instead. I bought a 2020 Triumph Bonneville T-120 and the 31” seat height is just about perfect. I love the upright riding position, better brakes, and more power than the old Sportster, too. I use the right side mounting technique from this video, placing my right foot on the right peg and swinging my left leg over the seat. I haven’t yet worked up the nerve to attempt the side stand turn, but one day…
Similar story man, I’m 5’4, 28 inch inseam. But I’ve not driven a motorcycle yet. I understand it’s a good idea to start with a lower displacement bike, and I was looking at rebel 500s. But they just aren’t attractive to me. An SV650 or triumph trident 660 would be great, I’d just greatly benefit if I can shave 1.5 inches off the seat.
I'm all for giraffe bikes and tons of suspension travel, but I can't ride something like the Africa Twin and hit a stop light without looking like a dog pissing on a 2-story fire hydrant. And heaven help me if I hit stop-and-go rush hour traffic.
it’s tough being 5’2 and an adventure bike enthusiast
As a 5ft 2 rider with a F800GS, i have no issuse riding with the lower seat setting. However, I've decided to lower it by 2inch using the touratech set as it does give me more confidence (not for stopping with two legs down, I've always had the habit of only having the left leg down only). My workplace has an inclined hill parking lot and I often has a pillion with me. Thus I've decided to lower it just so it's easier for me to maneuvure around it.
I do agree that the bike is weightless when I'm riding and if i am riding solo, I absolutely have no issues using just the low seat setting. For people considering lowering the suspension, do take note that your side and main stand does get affected.
bruh what i looked at that bike like 2 seconds ago as a joke because i am the same height as you. how tf are you riding that? its 34 inches stock i checked on cycle ergo and i was litterally floating on that thing. i had to decrease the height by 3.5 inches just for my toes to hit the floor
Thank you o Harley, for saving our shorter riders with the variable seat height on the Pan America. I hope more dual sport type motorcycles implement this tech.
My msf course taught us to always put your left down first because you should have your right foot on your brake while stopping. And its been really helpful
For an average rider, having an overly tall bike is just an exercise in frustration in most everyday scenarios, like being stuck in stop-and-go traffic, waiting at an intersection, etc. Lastly, when off-road and having to deal with low traction scenarios like mud or sand, it's super confidence inspiring for a new to average rider to be able to easily dab on each side. Lastly, again for an average rider, a loss in ground clearance or suspension travel is not that huge of a deal, since that type of rider is unlikely to be doing the kind of aggressive riding that would take full advantage of full suspension travel and ground clearance. I am making generalizations here, so YMMW.
I’m only 5’5” and have ridden every type of motorcycle there is, from a 2k miles trip in an hd electa glide to a bmw f700 through Morocco, from my gsxr1k track bike to my husqvarna SM 449, I even road tested a gs1200 one time, there’s nothing you can’t ride, these are all good tips but the best tip is don’t get discouraged, just ride whatever you want, you’ll figure it out, of course if you’re still learning, a smaller bike is much preferable, but eventually you’ll be able to ride anything.
Can't begin to tell you how much actually adjusting your bike's suspension for your weight AND RIDING ABILITY makes a difference. It's more than just setting the preload and leaving it. Setting compression and rebound damping can make a huge difference even for street riding, and your perception of your bike's handling will drastically change your confidence level. More confidence makes taller bikes seem shorter so it all helps.
Stubbled upon this video. Agreed that was horrible advice! Poorly adjusted suspension can definitely cause you to wreck.
Thank you yammie. I’m 5’5 rn about probably gonna be 5’6 when I’m fully grown.
Oof luckily I’m 5’9 and probably gonna be 6’2 when I’m fully grown
Hehe sorry boys
16 year old 6'4 dutchboy incoming
Im 6ft but all prolly be around 305ft in a few years
My kids say I'm gonna be a NASCAR driver when I grow up.
@@chadthunderd1ck734 same bro
I'm a manlet and I approve this video. Now, seriously I'm 5'5 and I bought a custom bike because of this, my old bike was super tall and I feel very insecure and ashamed riding it.
a custom bike? I'm 5'5 too
I'm 6' and I feel very insecure and ashamed riding mine too bro. =)
5'6'', started on a hornet and worked my way up to a 1200 gs with a lowered seat. Works fine w/o need to touch the suspension.
I’ve been riding a cbr 1000rr for 4 years and had multiple 600s before that and I’m 5’6. Just put your left foot down and learn to switch feet if you have too. You don’t have to have two feet on the ground to ride a bike
Hope
Thanks. So I'm gonna lower my bike
I’m 5’5” there are a lot of bikes in comfortable to sit on and definitely #7 helps with what bike u can truly feel confident on
Two small issues with #1:
- in the UK we ride on the left, on roads which have a built in camber where the centre or the road is higher than the left hand edge…so essentially you’re leaning the bike downhill.
- there’s more grit and gravel on the left hand of the road, and with one foot balancing, if that foot slides, you’re done for
I'm from New Zealand and we always get taught to stop left foot down.
In the UK you're still taught to put your left foot down for safety anyway :)
Malaysia also follow UK, ride on the left side and there's tarmac with higher at the center of the Road which make shortie like me hard to put leg land on land so i tend to put both because my left leg is dominant
Also the “small” selection of leather jackets are a pain in the ass for me. Small is actually a medium for most manufactures except rs taichi but they’re always out of stock
Try being 5'1" with a 52" chest. My jacket is an XL, but sleeves to long. Same with my chaps, XL to fit my thighs, had to cut almost a foot off.
@@michaelconran5252 I basically have the same problem but with pants. all riding pants sold in indonesia are always too long yet the size has never been more than 34
Taichi rs have japanese sizes
This is so true! so hard to find XS things that fit... I'd guess it may be harder for guys even, since they assume guys are always larger.
@@michaelconran5252 I have this problem with shirts I’m around 5’2” and I have to wear xl shirts with most brands. But the xl looks a little long and sleeves are to tight. I haven’t tried a jacket yet but more than likely the same issue
I needed this video. Went to the bike shop to look at bikes and was not ready for how tall they actually were. The only bike I felt confident enough to sit on was the ktm 390 and that was still a stretch. I'm sure I could ride a taller bike, but I really need to build confidence first. My biggest problem is the lack of used bikes for sale and the reality of buying a new bike before I feel some what confident is like throwing $8-9k through a paper shredder. Anways, I love your sense of humor. Thanks for the content.
Get over it and lower it. It inspires confidence & lets you build skill. You can always go back up.
Adding to the left food down practice. Keeping the rear brake on until you come to a stop lowers the seat height by compressing the rear suspension. If you put your right foot down at a stop your releasing the rear brake suddenly increasing the seat height at the exact moment your reaching for the ground.
"Like I'm cursing you to a life on a Grom"
God, why is that so funny 😆
Best thing I did on my KLR was lowering the front and rear. Handles better and the wind doesn't blow me around as much. Not a beginner, been riding and racing bikes for 50 + years.
Lowering also requires a different kickstand. I learned this the hard way.
It stands the bike up straighter, but it also makes the bike less stable while parked. Susceptible to blow over by wind, or a glance from a gorgeous woman.
Showing this to my 5’2” girlfriend asap.
I’ve had a couple situations where I came to a stop with my left foot and I stepped on a small rock, which proceeded to roll under my foot.. and then I slipped and fell off the bike..
Yeah! Happened to me last week.
You are supposed to balance it until you are at a complete stop and then put your left foot down. If you put your feet down before it's fully stopped you can drop it even if you flat foot both feet.
@@simplerider3159 yup came to a stop for sure, put my foot down and slipped sideways - bike fell over to the left and I fell on top of it towards the right. Just sheer bad luck, and yet I still stop with one foot
For real, this shit happens. Good thing was I leaned on it very gently, so I had enough time to readjust my foot to step on the ground.
Been there. That feeling of total embarassment ...argh.
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Years ago, I dropped my FJR in the toll booth (before the electronic gizmos, u actually had to stop and pay). The rain had just started and there was so much oil covering the ground from stopping cars that leak.
Anyway, it took multiple people to help me get it uprighted because of the oil and angle. I had the frame sliders, which lots of people gave me grief about, but it stopped any real damage from happening.
Don’t kickstand-turn most older Ducatis. Many models have stands attached to the engine cases and can break the mounting points.
Same on modern ones, the bolt will shear
Exactly. I have one such rig, MANY of the older Ducs were that way. 2006 Ducati Multistrada.
I agree about lowering bikes. It changes the geometry of the bike, usually in an unstable way.
I love my new rebel 1100 but at 4'9 I still needed these tips. Thank you 🙌
Thank you for this, I'm a short female rider and it's great to get these tips to help so I can upgrade to bigger bike.
I have a 30 inch inseam. I also have a wr250r with a 36.6 inch seat height.
The factory rear shock has about 20mm of lowering adjustment. So I dropped that 20mm. Then I moved to the front and slid the forks about to compensate and once I am on, I am pretty comfortable on it. It sinks quite a bit when I get my weight on it. I just kick stand it, step on the peg, lift over the seat, and then I can reach no problem. I'm not flat footed, but I'm more than tippytoes. If I lean just a bit I can flat foot one side, which is all I really need.
When I first got it I was ready to order the lowered seat concepts seat, yamalink, and smaller tires. Now I'm glad I saved my money.
Never rode a bike before but thinking of taking the class this summer. Honestly, the only concern I had or have is that I'm short (5'5). After watching lots of videos, it seems that it shouldn't matter as much as I thought!
I'm 5'8 and was quite surprised by the MT07. Thought it was going to be a lot higher and heavier
Number 1 : definitly disagree :
It suppose to keep first gear engaged, holding cluch lever during all the time you are stopped. Bad for the cluch, and dangerous in case of thometing goes wrong...you risk to untimely start while loosing balance.
i am 5,57 feet.
What I do since 1987 (Transalp,Ducati Multistrada 2011, Africatwin 2022) :
- Neutral just before stop.
- right foot on the ground
- front break to maintain the byke if necessary.
- left foot on the footrest.
- when starting : first gear, front break and cluch release...right foot on the footrest.
Never fell.
I don't know what they teach in MSF courses in the US, but in Europe, mainly Portugal in my case, we are taught to ALWAYS put your left foot down no matter what and to keep the right foot and your right hand on the brakes when stopped, and only transition feet to go into first gear and start riding.
FINALLY!!!!!! Tips for us smol bois.
and gorls
@@kristinLFG yes and gorls
I am too short to even ride a bicycle. I am only 5 feet lol. Perhaps a turbo tricycle would be good.
@@UtterNoobness I'm 5'2, i had my bike lowered
@@kristinLFG what bike is it??
Im 5'4" so this was a help. most things i knew from riding for years. my zx6r was a bit difficult
I'm 5'3" and had always struggle with my former DR200. But definitely will go back to a Dual hell yeah Papa Yam!
I considered lowering my bike slightly because I tend to slide forward slightly and squeeze my essentials on the "tank".
But, I attached a couple of pads to the tank that gave me a better grip with my knees.
I'm 6'1" & didn't have to lower my first 6 motorcycles. I had to lower the next 2 because today many motorcycles come with horrible seats designed for shorter riders. Problem is they are painful to sit on. So you buy a wider, thicker seat & now you're 3" higher & your legs are spread out more. I could manage being on my toes if I wasn't old & weak or if I rode a 125. But what a hassle at 64. My ankles aren't strong enough to trust anymore. Lowering links & raised forks worked out great. No compromises. Suzuki Vstrom 650 & Honda NC700X. Motorcycle companies should make a comfortable seat, adjustable for 30-33 inches.
I'm 5'2 and I'm leaving my bike lowered idc lol
I had the mechanic install the links to ensure the suspension was also adjusted properly to compensate
I'm a short rider, own a KLR-650 and do exactly the opposite of what you recommend in a couple of your points: I put my right foot down most of the times when I stop to be able to use my left foot to shift into neutral and use the hand brake to prevent the bike from moving if required, and I mount the bike from the left, putting my whole weight on the peg and catching the bike with my right foot after swinging my leg. Your advise, tough maybe good for some, seems awkward and counterintuitive for me regarding these two points, especially the one of mounting the bike from the right. The minute you put pressure on the right peg the bike will lean into you, so I really don't understand how that would work.
I do the same which is contrary to what this vlogger is suggesting.
Yeah his tips aren't the best.
This guy giving out advice to short rider is like having a 6'5'' basketball player telling us shorties that we cant dunk because we're crybaby and didnt work hard enough.
As a 5'6 rider, I found these tips Interesting and helpful. Thanks bro 👍
Being taller is only a plus when you're new. As soon as you get some skill and confidence you can ride nearly anything. But when you're tall finding a bike for your daily riding is harder, there's less options that can be comfortable enough for frequent and prolonged use and for the most part it's adv bikes even if you want something more street oriented. Shorter riders can not only achieve ideal body positioning on a bike because it's with them in mind that bikes are designed but also can ride pretty much whatever they want because riding a taller motorcycle is merely about having enough experience and control rather than being able to flat foot it.
I lowered my R15 so I will get the confidence and not to worry about getting off balance and drop the bike and get injured. Right now it still works for me. and also our path way is very narrow I needed both my foot the reach the ground in order to move the bike in reverse while riding it.
Im 5'7 and got mt first bike. The thing is, I haven't yet tried it on roads but just sitting on it and tip toeing seems dangerous. Not to mention reversing is hell unless I hop off
Mind me asking what bike? That's about my height so I'm curious
@@AlmostLakai94 some local made scrambler from an indian bike. Got it for a grand and runs really good. Despite tip toeing I am able to drive it very good and face no problem, not even on hills. Whatcha getting?
@@Skiplegday18591 still looking for future reference but I was leaning towards a XR650L but those are probably some of the tallest bikes out lol. I didn't realize til I noticed 300s were common 😂
@@AlmostLakai94 ah damn, got a neighbour who's exactly my height and drives a honda degree 250. Not sure how easy is it to learn on though. But definitely doable
I would argue being comfortable putting your right foot down is just as important if you're a short rider. Just saying when you come to an off camber stop sign and your high ground is on the right you wanna be comfortable bringing your bike to a complete stop smoothly with the front brake so your right foot is free to put down. How come nobody ever talks about this!?
Because it's a bit safer to put your left foot down, with the right foot on the rear brake (especially if your stopping on an incline), and in with your left hand on the clutch ready to take off from 1st gear...
That being said, aside from the reason you listed, my weak ass gets tired holding in my R6 clutch in stop and go traffic and being all hunched over like a gargoyle, so I like to put it in neutral to be able to let go of the clip-ons to stand up straight and relax. Maybe I should stop riding a frigging super-sport in traffic... 🤔
Because most people that make these lists are 6'4". Ever see an off-camber traffic light at the top of a hill? You better know how to stop with your right foot down and hill-hold with your front brake. Setting off isn't that hard - once you get to the friction point just release the front brake, increase throttle, and away you go. When you are short being proficient at right foot down stops is just as important as left foot down stops.
@@thespectator5259 Word I get it, it is safer. And that's always the best way to stop the bike. I just mean being ambidextrous can help save a drop if you can't get the left foot down
@@PhilipBeresford exaaaaaactly🔥
Yammie such good advice. When I finality my dream sport tourer, Kawasaki Concours 1400, I was so afraid of dropping it I was clenched so tight. I was not quite balls of the feet. Now I had ridden this bike tons at many factory demo rides and never worried about dropping their bikes. So as I got more comfortable, and realized that if you stop clenching your ass like you’re trying to make diamonds your legs will get about an inch longer. Fast forward and I just added a rediculously tall Ducati Multistrada Enduro to my stable, and well no I can’t touch with both feet. Okay ballet toes, but that ain’t cutting it. However the bike is incredibly well balanced and a little slide off the seat to left and it’s totally stable at a stop. And knowing I was never going to be able to duck walk it I tested walking it at the dealer before I bought it. Now will I be able to do that when all the panniers are loaded, we’ll see. But they do come off so…….
You always must think
about where and how to stop, to park, to start. But the pleasure to ride these big feet is huge.
Mamae i really greatful for you advise when I was first started riding bikes and followed you till you had accident and then moved on and it is really nice to see you getting close to the goal you promised years ago and I am happy for you!
I drive a lowered fz6 and im gona get a lowered seat too but in 5,2 50kg so ahh yeah kinda needed. Never gona do a flat foot with both legs but its not needed. The guy i bought the bike off said "you have to have boot feet down" but he flat centered the tyres so taken his "advise" with a huge pill of salt. He was also in his 60's and sold the bike with 20k less milage on it. I got me a steal 😁
Standing on the foot peg when mounting your bike looks super boss. Highly recommended.
Today I ordered a 40mm lowering kit for my KLX250, and with a buddy lowered the front forks just over an inch and screwed the rear shock adjuster as low as it will go. I can now bend my knees flat-footed, but still looking forward to the lowering kit too, because I love adventuring on old logging roads and such. In muddy ruts and things every mm helps. I used to have the little 150cc version, tiny little bike but because it was so small, low and light I could go anywhere where with that thing - except deep rivers. I use my snorkled truck for those ;)
I thought I wanted a CRF300L for my first bike until I realized I can’t even flat foot a Svartpilen at 5’8”. But the Svart is so badass that I think I can wait to get a dual sport sometime down the road :)
I lowered a Triumph Speed Triple I owned and it was never right after that, gave it to a tall friend who took the lowering kit off and it was fine. The kit was installed originally by a Triumph dealership.
Just pull the cover and trim your seat foam instead of fng with the suspension. I'm too short for my YZ250 without rocking tip toes. Cut one of my seats into a more classic saddle shape instead of flat. Perfect.
Bruh, you can’t pretend like your solutions will work for most people when you’re using a relatively short bike to begin with
Having a short inseam, but loving of road motorcycling, you can slide over off the seat. With practice, it becomes natural.
Me personally with being 5 foot 2 inches. I've been reading up things that you can do to avoid barely being on your tippy toes. The one thing I'd try first is having less suspension. I'm not saying adjust it. I'm saying have it replaced with one that's right for your weight. Since I'm 170lbs, I may wanna go with suspension that'll help the bike fall a tad bit lower than the other suspension. This method wouldn't disrupt the geometry of the bike like adding lowering links or tightening up the suspension or anything like that would.
Damn. That picture of dude dragging knee from the car door is hilarious.
I immediately paused the video and hit Google to find it. I’ll keep it handy to make my dad piss himself laughing one day, 😂.
Thanks.
Tip 7 ✔ Just get a good bike with a lower seat height and escape the inconvenience and unnecessary embarrassment.
Lower a bike, or just learn how to control a bike properly. If flat footing is needed, training wheels might help even more with stability.
ORRR assert dominance as a 5'7 riding a CRF250
Finally someone said it. I cant even count how many people ive seen talking about lowering their grom and i try to warn them what its going to do to their handling and people just dont seem to understand.
Why would anyone want to lower a grom though? It’s already a small bike! Lol
@@daviddinh9243 idk man. My roommate and i both have groms and he lowered his and its pretty awful. Took a fun little fuck around bike and made it as little fun as possible.
I’m 5’6 and my first bike was a drz400s(not the supermoto) brand new from a dealer. I won’t lie I dropped it the first three times I tried to stop lmao. Now I’m comfortable daily driving the bike stopping on hills, etc. I may look like a child riding but i don’t care. Ride the bike you want to ride.
Another great video. I'm short enough I can't even flat foot a ninja 400. It's close, but not quite. Appreciate the tips since I don't want to be stuck on a low slung cruiser.
neither im 5'1
Great vid, and some of the riding footage at end of vid looked like Rt. 6 on Cape Cod. Made me want to go on vacation. I’m looking at a Kawasaki 650 LR. I have a 32” inseam while the bike has a 34” seat height. Salesman told me I’m not tall enough for that bike. I went home disappointed, then decided to take charge, work out the issue and (hopefully) prove the salesman wrong. So I plan to wear my riding boots to the dealership (they have 2” heels) and sit on the bike again and see how the boots help. I can then lower the seat in addition if I need to, later. There’s a great vid on UA-cam where a guy shows you how to shave some height off the seat.
Thank you for this vid, you’ve empowered me to go back to the dealership armed with ideas.
When you are on extreme tippy toes and there is a depression in the road at a stop that maybe you didn’t see, you can get tipped too far before your foot is planted and the bike falls. That’s the only time I dropped it, but I am old and I threw my back out trying to save it. I ride a T-7. I am 5-9 and shrinking. I am trying the low seat first. I don’t ride single track or anything too challenging. Just fire roads and trails. The other issue is picking up that tall top heavy bike with a full tank of gas by myself was a real struggle. 😅
Thank you for the cycle ergo site recommendation. This is what I need, especially with being a short ass and not being able to actually see a bike due to lockdown! 😃
Yes lower your bike a tad if you have to. I'm 5-9 now and with a bit of a left hip issue. Try riding a stock KDX220 like that. So I put the lowering link in to drop it a little and the forks a little bit too.
Experience helps a lot, I found that if I could touch the floor on my first bike it's one less thing you worry about while still getting used to riding, then your second bike you tend not to worry about the seat height as much. As you've gained a lot of confidence just from experience.
Panniers are cheaper than a lowering link? Where are you shopping!?
Not that I didn't know any of this but you videos keep me hooked man! Awesome stuff...
Honda Shadow, Harley Davidsons, Suzuki Boulevards, Yamaha V-stars are cruisers that come in mind for low seat heights.
5"6 dude with shorter leg proportion here to confirm that it's MUCH easier to mount your bike by stepping on the left peg rather than the right. The bike wont even move at all and you'll be sitting on a bike with already lowered left side rather than having to catch the right side with your foot. Just make sure that you lean your body to meet the center of mass so you wont flip your bike. Also getting some weight (muscle weight, don't get obese) will compress both suspensions and it will lower your bike as well. Also learn to navigate your body weight on your bike and then you'll be able to mount and dismount from any side of your bike.
from short dude riding a duke and a dirt bike
Consider buying a busa. It has a low seat height that's perfect for 5'4"s like me. Lol
Bought lowering kit through online for my honda CRF 300. Im juts 165cm height. It helps me a lot especially during traffic
good job on the sisters representation in this video. I am all for that, especially when it comes to close up shots, with a slight back orientation of the camera.
If you have a dual sport with a 19" front wheel, switching to a 17" front, like you would for a supermoto conversion, that will make a difference.
Yeah, a 1" difference.
The one about using the footpeg to get on. I do it all the time on my klr650, but NEVER on the right side, always on the kickstand side. it'd be tipping over before I could even get my leg over once the suspension compresses. The kickstand should be more than strong enough to support your weight and the bikes at that type of angle. With bags and rear case it's hard to throw my leg over having a 31inch inseam.
Only recently saw this video. I'm short (5ft,2). I ride two different bikes. An Honda Africa Twin from 2019 and a Suzuki DRZ 400 from 2005. The Honda isn't lowered. I simply slide to one side to get just enough toes on the ground to keep the bike balanced.
The DRZ is lowered bij 9 centimeters. But I didn't do it the cheap way. It has been lowered by Hyperpro Suspension who are specialized in it. They changed the whole suspension. That way the handling is still ok or even better then the original. It's still hilarious to see me jumping on it while letting it start rolling when standing next to it etc.
I softened the rear suspension on my T7, no problems at all.
I lowered my dual sport, a Honda xr250 Tornado. Rear suspension has an extra hole for lowering an fork has a small snap ring to lower it evenly. Everyone who rides it likes it. I have long legs so the high position wasn't a problem. What is a problem is I'm 71 years old and my wife isn't a lot younger. Low position just makes getting on easier
At just over 6 feet tall when not slouching , riding a small 250, I find no issue dealing with it , flat feet anywhere I want.
After riding on a 500 ktm the first time , I quickly discovered to not be cocky with my feet placement.
There is a guy named Billy Mayhem out of Seattle who does custom bikes. He showed me a bike he had modified for a gent with dwarfism. He set it up with servo motors so when he stopped he could drop the kick stand by pressing a button. He physically could not get to it without the mod. Made an untenable situation no prob and got one more of us on the road! At 5 9 with a 30 inch inseam the Ninja 250 and now my Ninja 300 work fine for me out of the box! I was hoping the 400 would be more of the same, since that is probably my next bike.
No matter what you are told by taller people , it is essential in difficult situations to be able to duck walk a bike .
The greatest enduro riders in the world duck walk , in favour of stalling and tipping over.
On the road you are told just put one foot down ….yes in 95 per cent of scenarios , but try that on a cambered and 30 degree incline when a truck in front of you suddenly stops , and you have to stop on that incline without the bike sliding backwards or tipping over.
That leg for back brake is the only leg that reaches the ground , you have to keep that front brake squeezed for all your worth until , you let the clutch out up that incline without stalling.
Many other scenarios …just lower your suspension …it works .
Lowered mines and happy I done it. To each their own
I would say lower the bike if you need to, but do it right, drop both front and rear, as well don't forget the kick stand needs to be shorter as well.
Just got my first bike. 2022 KLR650 Adventure. Dropped it going downhill trying to stop with my left foot on the ground. I definitely suck hardcore at this.
Everytime I talk about setting my suspension, the very first thing they say is lower it. If I wanted low I'd get a cruiser.
I am a short rider and I have used most of these techniques. Except for the kickstand spin around trick, my bike is way too big for that.
I am 6 feet, riding 50 odd years.
Just bought an aprilia shiver.
It's crazy tall; my feet are light on the ground and have a miserable turning circle.
I was very comfortable on my last blackbird.
might aswell put the right foot down so you can keep your left foot underneath your gears to quickly ride of
I have been waiting for this