The 'Additional Tricks' chapter really helped me enjoy my ride. I always feared when it came to the stop sign... I truly appreciate you making this video for short riders like myself!!!
Haha that was probably the funniest way to explain the basics about handling a heigh bike as a short rider. I am myself one of this affected guys, measuring 1.71m with a 30" inseam. That butt sliding technique really helps, I have learned it a while ago. You can also compare it to a table with four legs, two of which are slightly shorter - it will wobble. A table with only three feet and one shorter one will still rest stable.
ahhaha, thank you Peter! But considering I am not a girl with the tits out, I am actually quite satisfied with how fast the channel is growing... I just need to keep it up and eventually I will get somewhere fruitful =) thanks for watching and commenting !
Great video and just what I needed. I've been struggling transitioning from my Royal Enfield Himalayan to my new, tall, T700. Looking forward to trying some of the mentioned techniques.
I've experienced exactly the same, the Himalayan is much easier to manage in these situations. But if you lower the suspension (your yamaha dealer can do it for you), change the seat to the low one, learn to be comfortable in 1 foot and (very important) plan ahead when you stop (choose flat ground spots and place the bike facing the street so it is easier to exit), you'll be fine!
I absolutely LOVED this video!! I'm 58 years old and just bought my first ever motorbike two months ago - a dual purpose 250 with the intention of doing a lot of off-road sightseeing of our beautiful country with my husband, who is a seasoned biker. However, I am "vertically challenged" and although, by some miracle, I'm quite good at staying on my bike over all sorts of rough ground, I keep dropping it when I stop. I still tend to instinctively use the hand brake (I know, not good...) but am now going to practice your butt sliding technique with the foot brake. I so enjoyed your humorous, non-condescending tutorial. Thank you!
Hello Joselyn! So glad you enjoyed the video, and that it was useful to you in any way! First of all welcome to the "offroad world" and congratulations for starting with a smaller bike (I have another video about NOT learning offroad on big adv bikes) I would just like to comment that the front wheel brake (hand brake) is very very important off-road. Actually, its the one that actually stops the bike..the rear one is more of a support brake, and that will become more evident as you learn to ride faster and better. If you struggle with the "decompression" of the suspensions after you brake (and it takes you out of balance and you fall), what you need to do is to ease the brakes as you are about to stop. That will make the bike decompress less abruptly. As for the front brake, if you need to do an emergency braking (and thats where the front brake becomes essential), you can start by using the rear brake, and immideatly after start pressing the front brake (easy at first, and progressively more and more..) This prevents the front wheel to skid. The more you brake, the more you can brake, becuase the weight is shifted towards the front wheel/suspensions, so you get more traction =) Wow that was a lot of text... xD
@@OFFroadOFFcourse LOL, that was a lot of text! Might have been quicker to do a video 😂 Thanks for the braking advice, I still have sooo much to learn! I really appreciate your feedback 🙂
I also provide bike training lessons, especially for beginners, using my dual-purpose bikes. Now that you mention it, 99% of the "put downs" occur when shorter learners come to a stop, despite showing them how to butt slide. It sure is a challenge!
Hi Diogo! Loved this - I literally LOLed at some parts! At almost 5’2 and a 27’ inseam I’m definitely your target market for this video. Thanks so much for the butt sliding technique - I’m looking to get into off road motorcycling this year so I’m going to practice the butt sliding drill as soon as I get the bike in the spring. Count me in as a new fan and subscriber. Cheers from 🇨🇦!
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thanks! I decided to go with a 2021 KLX300SM as it has a lower seat height. Will swap out the stock street tires for 50/50 tires so I can take her offroad. Can't wait for the spring. Keep up the great work on your channel, I'll be following.
I shaved a ton off the seat on my XR650, they’re very thick anyway like 5 inches, reduced it down to where it looks like a trials bike seat now almost but I like it, it feels better to me riding I’m lower to the center of balance on the bike while riding roads and I ride a lot standing up anyway.
Hey, Mate. I did another option that you didn't fully cover. It's now a couple of years in the future, and I own a KTM EXC-F 500. Hell of a bike, but insanely tall. My secret weapon against not being able to touch the ground? I'm sure you'd agree that this is the best fix. I learned how to ride a tall bike. Sounds like a no brainer, but it was super difficult to start with. The butt slide is awesome advice, but not depending on touching the ground is even better. I still need to rely on the ground for support, but nowhere near as much as I would, if I just learned how to balance better. Loved the video.
Own the same bike, and I'm about 1.78m. Didn't ride it for a long time so don't recall using this technique. However i think i do, and use the kickstand before get of the bike. What i really like of this bike is that when it rolls it is very balanced and yes a little bit easy going right hand is your life insurance because it's a wild beast. Have bin driving almost only off road bikes for a life time (64 now). Started with the Yamaha XT500, that makes me kind of thinking ending with a Himalayan as a sort of antidote. ;) Nowadays i mostly ride mtb bikes, also an E-bike version. Can be more fun because you can get everywhere without getting chased by police. Chasing a KTM is a bad idea anyway. They lose!
Step 1 don’t stop. 😂. Great video. Hilarious intro. When off-road you have to be ready to do the 1 foot down leg hook really fast. The ground tricks you sometimes. You should make a video about just getting out of the way when it is going over. I see too many people trying to save a situation that is already hopeless. When my 990 gets too far over it is best to just let it drop and step clear.
Excellent and useful video. Very funny also. I'm pretty short, just 1m65, with 52 years of motorcycling. Simply, I've never bought a too tall, and more important a too heavy bike whatever for off-road and road. The actual fashion of enormous and hyper heavy dual-purpose bikes with 100 useless HP make me laugh. Nice in town, nice to impress girls, nice on paved road, a total horror off-road. Weight is weight, most of the time that I see that is a poor guy trying to drive a reluctant elephant decided to go elsewhere. When you're a good one, the power may help you to dynamically balance the weight, but that's pretty tricky for the average Joe. Heavy and under powered is the worst. A very praised "adventure" bestseller bike of 190 kg dry, 25 HP bike is the recipe for suffering a lot, as it's heavy and has no dynamics when the trail is becoming a bit harsh. Unhappily, there are no more dual-purpose bikes of 400-500 cc 35-40 HP 125-135 kg, air cooled, no plastics to break, no electronics to drown and burn, which, a bit prepared and fully loaded by plenty of gas (at least 20 liters), gear, spare parts and luggage for a long trip in the middle of nowhere weigh less than 190 kg. The Honda XR 400 kited 440, big tank, was a fabulous adventure bike.
The market certainly lacks good modern dual sports. But you should try the himalayan... You really forget its a 190kg bike...its feels just heavy enough to be comfortable :o
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I've tried the Himalayan on road and a bit on dirt. Too heavy and lacking cruelly of the "gnack" needed for lightening the front wheel in some situations, brief dynamics off-road. It's nice for someone who wants to make some road and some easy dirt. I mean really easy. If you do not mind that it's truly slow on road, it may be good for travelling. You can do it on a slow bike, even a CT90. I've made with a friend on 1974 a 3000 km trip in Morocco, each with a 125 cc Honda SL kited 175 with a carburettor from a CB 350, around 15 HP but 100 kg dry, ignition points and drum brakes. 115 km/h max. With the same friend we did it again 20 years later but with XR 440s I had prepared; 125 kg dry, 38 HP and that was a pleasure. The big mental problem I have with the Himalayan, it's I have owned a XR 440. There is no cure. The XR 400 or a DR 350 were better than the Himalayan almost 30 years ago, even for adventure long cruise in the Himalayas.
I had the same problems and tried some of the things in the video but the best solution I found was to change the size of the rear tyre. This way the suspenssion is fine cause is you dont have to shorten the shock, the chain works fine, because when you shorten the shock the chain gets less tension, and you can get some cms. The only drawback is that you loose some speed, but you get more torque. In my opinion this is the way.
Thanks, that is helpful. I am 172cm tall and buying 701 Enduro which has pretty tall seat height of 920mm. They say you need to be at least 185cm tall to ride this Husky comfortable but I will not listen to that... So going to have al ot of fun trying to get used to it but as you also mentioned, I would like to avoid messing with the suspension and seat height at any cost. Maybe I just make the seat a little bit narrower. Cheers and greetings from Poland!
The only real problem I have with my T7 Yamaha is pushing it backwards while on the bike. I have lowered the suspension front and rear but only just touch the ground the slightest hint of a bit of camber or on gravel the bike is almost impossible to push with my legs. My DR 650 has a very similar seat height but a lot less weight and a little narrower and is so much easier to move the bike around when seated, so I feel so much more confident on my DR, I find it is the real world situations that really show why tall heavy bikes become a problem. Even the situation of getting the bike off the side stand becomes an issue when parked in the wrong spot with the bike on a bit of a lean.
Have you tried using the front brake to move the bike backwards? Step 1 - Press the front brake Step 2 - Rock your body forward, in order to compress the front suspension Step 3 - Release the front brake when the suspension pushes back up (release when the suspension is almost completely extended again Step 4 - Help the bike move back with your feet, but mainly use the momentum created by the suspension tell me if it worked ;)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse that is basically the technique I do use and have used for many bikes in an awkward situation, it works great on a solid surface but on a loose surface it not always so easy to get traction with my feet. It ifs just one of those things you have to be aware of when you want to own a tall heavy motorcycle or you might be short of stature, like all things motorcycles, everything is a compromise but just be aware and try the less obvious things when test riding a motorcycle. I had the same problem with my Harley 30 years ago, no hope pushing that backwards up a slight incline, owned that bike 4 weeks and I could touch the ground easily, the whole thing boils down to weight.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Could you give the date of your meetup again is it 18 sept ? I might come from France, is there a way to PM you ? I know you gave all that in the video but can't find it :[
@@TomTom-gx1sm ahaha, of course, 18 september, my email is info@offroad-offcourse.com and to pm me maybe use my facebook account (Diogo Guerra da Silva, with the offroad offcourse logo :D) thanks for the interest! Ah, and the registration site is already online, but its in portuguese, I am not sure the broweser can auto-translate it: www.queroir.pt/hub2021-outono or on facebook: fb.me/e/4flhGdB35
Another tip I can suggest regarding which way the bike leans when you stop - you'll look lame but tilt your head in the direction you want the bike to lean. It weirdly works.
Oh, Mr. Bret, what an honour! :D I try...your opening on your version of addressing this topic is quite entertaining as well! "no one is looking down on short riders"... brilliant :D Sometimes I struggle a bit with finding (and saying properly) the right words, so my comedy tends to be a bit more visual. Thank you for watching and commenting. Greatest respect for your work, man ;)
In English, I realy love your videos, agora em língua de Camões, fabuloso trabalho e um grande e forte abraço, tudo de bom and keep on rolling with that good work
Nice videos, and especially this one very helpful for vertically challenged people like me. Going to come pickup an XT660R from Santarem this week and will definitely try the butt sliding.
Hey, thanks a lot for the techniques I think that they are manageable to learn (butt slide and turning front wheel direction) - only problem is how practical this is in traffic constant stop and go situations This and the issue of reversing the bike makes me lean towards wanting both feet to touch the ground The reason I'm asking is because I got an adventure motorcycle and I'm struggling with reversing + stop and go situations
Hey,thanks for watching! These techniques become easier with time and eventually they become 2nd nature =) Another thing is...when you get a big/tall bike for the first time you end up getting in tough situations more often at first... with some experience you learn to prevent that (example: to learn not to park in a way that will force you to reverse using your feet). Long story short... it gets better :D
One of the best bikes ever built probably... and still with a bit of that "90s" feel to it...sturdy and long lasting... not like modern bikes that seem to be made of flower :D
Estou a considerar mota big trail e tendo eu 1,68 cms o meu dilema está na altura das mesmas. Esse vídeo foi dos mais úteis nessa questão. Acompanharei agora o canal e espero brevemente também estar presente nos eventos. obrigado e continuação de bom trabalho
Não é fácil! Mas mais chato que a altura é por vezes a falta de habilidade. Quando ainda se está a dar os primeiros passos em TT estamos constantemente a usar os pés, e isso faz a altura (do piloto ou da moto) parecer mais relevante do que tem de ser. Daqui a 1-2horas sai o meu review da Himalayan, que embora nao seja "a moto de aventura típica", pode ser uma solução engraçada =)
Mais um belo vídeo, sendo eu um perna-curta, por instinto já utilizo a técnica do "butt-sliding" embora ainda precise de aprimorar a técnica. Quanto ao evento vou já tratar de reservar o dia no meu calendário, com ou sem road-book.
Não vai ser necessário roadbook. Não me considero "dentro disso" o suficiente para organizar uma prova condigna...e para fazer um "roadbook-faz-de-conta" que depois os verdadeirs fãs nao iam ter prazer nenhum a fazer, nao a vale a pena =) Espero ver-te lá no evento Edgar =)
Hey there Peter! I actually do... I have a bunch of DR350s (with electric start) that make the perfect travel companions for the kind of tours I do here in Portugal =) Send me an email if you want to talk about it, it would be a pleasure! info@offroad-offcourse.com
Yes i trided that bike and is a fast dinasour fast heavy dirt bike . !!! The best thing for that giant is to lowered 4" and done . nobody goes ove 14"rocks or logs mostly roads and some gravel
as a vertically challenged dude on a T7, I liked that. just reminded me to spend more time practicing shifting my fat ass!. Go easy, I do love your vids!
Hey, thanks for the comment (and for watching!). Usually there is a technique for everything, and some only become really useful and easy once you learn and practice them for a while. I hope the video was helpful :)
Love the way you mix "cience" with an amazing sense of humor! I was lucky enough to have an off road course with Diogo. Highly recommend! Thank you Diogo...
Actually they kind of do... this KTM950 is the "S" version, the tallest of them all... then they release a couple more models which were slight lower. Just like the new KTM 890R Adventure S and the Adventure R (in this case, the R is the tallest). But I agree with you... i think bikes should be a bit more modular. Like sell the base bike an then you pick 6 different extras for free. Something like that =)
i'm 69, been riding since about 16...at 158cm short...adventure riding is quite a challenge especially getting to a dead end mountain road on a too big bike where you hv to turn your bike on uneven ground...usually i just drop my bike and pull/push on one off the wheels...footpeg as pivot
I'm not doing anything very special :o My micro (lavalier style with a clip) is hidden inside a littel foam,and thats it. I also have a "dead cat" but i never use it :o I also try to keep my chest (where the mic is) not facing the wind. In my first videos my lavalier mic was a 2eur one connected by a wire to the phone, later i changed for a cheap (40eur ) wireless system called Kimafun from ali express and for the past 3-4 months i've been using a Comica Boom XD (to be honest i didnt feel a considerable difference for the cheap Kimafuns...bit i am not an audio expert at all) :p
"It depends" :) Tip-toeing is not a very good technique as I explain in this video, but it will be even worse if you are not very good balancing the bike (which includes, whenever you stop, to do it with a smooth break and certainty on which side the bike will lean to). All can be done with a bit of practice :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I'm 5' 8" and I am planning to get a KTM 890 Adventure or Triumph Tiger 900 but both of these are such tall bikes especially the KTM. I feel like I'll never be able to ride them with confidence.
@@samcrdx8016 what bike did you have before this one? I am asking cause perhaps you are going for bikes that are too big (power and size) and are not thar ready, yet. More than your own height, your confidence and skill are more important. Nevertheless, if you are going for any of those 2, the 890adv is probably a better choice. Even if it is 1-2cm taller on paper, it will feel smallet and lighter
@@OFFroadOFFcourse KTM Adventure 390. Even that was too tall for me. At 855mm I was always tippy toes on it but somehow adjusted by the arse shifting method and even then never dared to ride with somebody in the pillion lol.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse So I took test rides for both of them and I decided to go with the Tiger 900 but not the Rally, rather the GT version lol. I had no idea this bike existed and apparently it's more of a tourer adventure crossover than a pure adventure breed like the Rally. I felt much confident on it than on the KTM or the Tiger Rally and I rarely do hardcore off roading so the alloy wheels don't bother me that much. All in all I finally have a big boy motorcycle which I can ride with confidence.
hehe, glad I could help (a bit). Maybe brands will one day start listening to people and create more light-weight adventure machines (propper ones, not weird stuff like the Kawasaki Versys 300 or the KTM390... )
one question here, if use lowering link on suspension and lower the front suspension height let's say V strom 650 , does it affect the riding performance especially with higher speed as i 'm kind of short a little bit. thks
Hey there! The bike won't be exactly the same, but some say it will change for the better as it will have a lower center o gravity. Long story short: I don't think you wull feel anything revelant if you make sure yioiu lower the same height front and back =)
I need to carry wife and luggage. I have a 700mm in-seam and the bike I'm considering buying has a seat height of 825mm. Can you show how this could be managed or should I give up & look for a shorter bike? Most short rider/tall bike videos only talk about single riders on empty bikes. None has covered tips on managing a tall bike with a pillion & a week's worth of stuff in the pannier boxes.
Hey there! Thanks for the comment and the question! Let me try to work on a solution for your problem...how tall are you exactly and what bike are you considering?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Hi, I'm 168cm tall and the bike in question is the recently launched CFmoto 800MT. My fallback option is the V-strom 650 simply because I know for sure it has a mega thick seat that I will be able to cut to reduce the seat height drastically! But I'll have to miss out on a lot of other great things if I give up on the 800MT.
Olá de um Diogo parado outro Diogo Uma questão rápida que talvez consigas ajudar. Gosto muito da África Twin 750 e da KTM 990 Adventure 2007, são duas motas muito diferentes quer na idade quer em potência. Sei que a AT 750 é mudar óleo, meter gasolina e andar. Em contra-partida já ouvir dizer que a KTM 990 dá muitos problemas, avarias… qual a tua opinião? Estou muito inclinado para a KTM 990 pela esgarna que tem 😁. Continua o óptimo trabalho e anseio por ver vídeos sobre as duas motas que mencionei agora dos prós e contras 😃 Mega abraço e aperta com eles
Vivas Diogo! 1º que tudo, tenho de te fazer pensar se uma moto de ~230kg é mesmo o que queres :P Nao sei se vai ser a tua primeira moto, ou a 15ª moto, mas vejo cada vez mais gente a procurar "motos de aventura" como primeira moto (ou como 2º moto depois da scooter ou da 125cc) e isso é normalmente uma má escolha :D Posto essa questão de lado... acho que a 950/990 te irão satisfazer muito mais em todos os aspectos. Talvez com 0Km a Africa twin fosse uma moto mais fiável (ou pelo menos de manutenção mais simples) que a 990, mas passados tantos anos 2 coisas aconteceram: 1 - A africa twin envelheceu 30 anos, e embora fosse uma moto fiavel e simples, agora tem borrachas ressequidas, nao sei quantos mil km no motor, umas babas de oleo aqui e ali, uns kilos de ferrugem escondidos algures, uma bobine a fazer isto, um rolamento a fazer aquilo... não ha milagres. Vais provavelmente andar a resolver problemazitos aqui e ali a vida toda. 2 - A 990 só tem 10-15 anos, por isso ainda não é uma moto velha, ainda não tem nada a "cair de podre". Por outro lado, já tem 10-15 anos, ou seja, todos os "problemas típicos" de uma 990 ja devem ter sido resolvidos. Não sei de todos, mas muitos deles eram resolvidos facilmente depois de acontecerm... uma junta no cilindro de trás, um oring nao sei onde, um ajuste ao TPS, etc... por isso as chances de comprar uma 990 que já tenha os problemas tipicos da 990 resolvidos é grande. e 3º... a 990 é um motão. Ainda hoje é a referência... com todo o respeito e amor à Africa Twin, que teve o seu tempo =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Desde já um enormissimo obrigado de um alentejano para outro pela tua aprontada resposta. Já tenho experiência em Cross, não sou nenhum expert das competições mas sempre andei desde miúdo. Chegou a altura de ter uma mota à home! Conforto em fazer viagem e que quando necessário, divertir-me um pouco no mato mas com mais calma no punho porque já não vamos para novos. A África Twin vai sempre ser a Rainha e que me há-de de ficar no goto. De facto estou bastante inclinado para a KTM 990, há a adventure, S e R… ainda não explorei bem as diferenças. Preocupa-me o conforto em longas distâncias. Seja como for, vou analisar com calma e ver uma ou duas para ver como me sinto nela. Sabes de algum grupo ou site onde a malta troque ideias e possa conversar sobre estas coisas chatas? 😅 Mais uma vez obrigado pelo teu conselho e testemunho Diogo. Mega abraço
At 5'6" with a 28" inseam a 36" seat height is an issue. Sure I can slide my butt and plant one foot but then getting the side stand down becomes an interesting conundrum. 33" seat height is best I can do.
Thanks for doing this. I am short at 5'4" and I have a 2018 Africa Twin. I have a lowered seat and I have reduced the shock preload on the back. I have not noticed any handling problems. What should I look for? Should I lower the front to level the bike out?
You should always try to level the bike front and back as best as you can cause at least you wont be suffering from that problem (lower back a normal front means the bike will be light on the front wheel which could lead to "steering shakes" at high speeds or lack of traction during turns. The symptons of a low pre-load would be also steering-shakes, wobbly feeling during long turns, imprecise handling (maybe more, but my knowledge is limited, especially in road environments). Increasing the rebound on on the rear shocks sometimes helps camouflage some of these symptons but thats like using a mistake to fix another mistake. If you are happy with your bike (the symptons maybe arent that bad) and dont want to spend money on a proper "lowering kit", than let it be...but if you want to ride with a bit of performance/aggressiveness, then you should set the suspensions properly :)
Dont take me wrong but if you ask this question you probably shouldn't be considering buying an H2... instead maybe a 600cc or even a "sport-touring" kind of thing? By the time it makes sense to consider buying a super-bike like the H2 you should have enough experience with ther "R" bikes to know if you can handle their height :o Anyway, If you follow the tricks on this video I am sure you manage. A lot of short people ride very tall bikes...so if they can do it, you also can =) In the end, its more a manner of being comfortable around bikes in general (hence my initial consideration)... if you know what you are doing it doesn't really required a lot of height or strenght to keep them standing "with finess" =) But never buy a bike without trying it first...thats my final advice =)
Diogo, isso quer dizer que quem só troca a roda da frente para estilo Supermoto, vai ficar com a frente muito baixa certo? Estou a dizer isto porque cada vez mais gosto do estilo e porque já tenho roda 17" atrás. Como sempre excelente vídeo. Ja agora videos Supermoto eram uma excelente adição para o canal e não fugiam muito no estilo de mota.
@@nelsonsilva6842 obrigado por comentares o video :D Sim, se pegares numa moto qualquer e só lhe trocares a roda da frente, ela vai descer a frente 5 ou 6cm e isso é uma brutalidade, se nao compensares atràs. Mas... No caso de uma moto supermotard acho que esta situaçao não é tao grave como na moto de fora-de-estrada, pelo simples facto de que desiquilibrar a moto (+peso na frente e menos atràs) ate pode ser uma coisa boa, para o drift e tal... Eu nao fujo muito das motos dual-sport e de aventura porque é tudo o que sei. Tenho experiencia pessoal e adquirida nisto, e confiança naquilo que digo. Mesmo que nao saiba tudo nem acerte 100% das vezes, acho q nao ando para aqui a dizer barbaridades. A minha experiencia com outro tipo de motos é pouca ou nenhuma, por isso arriscava-me a andar aqui a ser um profeta da asneira, e nao quero nada nada fazer isso. (Isto que acabei de dizer das supermoto e do drift pode muito bem ser a maior idiotíce alguma vez dita sobre motos...)
I am not a supermoto expert, so i am afraid to even touch the subject. What CC are you looking for? Is it to ride around town or for travelling? Are you going into supermoto cause you feel you are too short for dual-sports and advs or because you really want supermoto?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse no no la 790R è alta..per me che sono 167cm è altissima...ho dovuto far regolare il mono e le forcelle oltre a rastremare la sella... riuscivo a guidarla ma in enduro quando dovevo appoggiare i piedi era un disastro
You are not the first mentioning borat in my videos xD I always heard that ladies dig accents, but probably not Borat's... Doesn't matter, IS NIIICE, I LIKE! 🤣😁
That start to the video was hilarious😂. Thanks for the laughs.
Glad you enjoyed! thank you for the comment ;)
That`s the story of my life 🤣
The 'Additional Tricks' chapter really helped me enjoy my ride. I always feared when it came to the stop sign... I truly appreciate you making this video for short riders like myself!!!
Seriously man, one of my favorite new channels. The rope over the seat broke me. So freaking funny.
Thank you for watching and for commenting =)
It means a lot
Oh man that intro...pure genius!!! You make your videos educational, informative and fun! Great job. Don't stop
I appreciate that man 😄! Happy rides
Thank you. Your humor made this video easier to watch than most, it was a real joy.
Haha that was probably the funniest way to explain the basics about handling a heigh bike as a short rider. I am myself one of this affected guys, measuring 1.71m with a 30" inseam. That butt sliding technique really helps, I have learned it a while ago. You can also compare it to a table with four legs, two of which are slightly shorter - it will wobble. A table with only three feet and one shorter one will still rest stable.
This channel is so underrated its not even funny anymore.
ahhaha, thank you Peter!
But considering I am not a girl with the tits out, I am actually quite satisfied with how fast the channel is growing... I just need to keep it up and eventually I will get somewhere fruitful =)
thanks for watching and commenting !
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Great video and just what I needed. I've been struggling transitioning from my Royal Enfield Himalayan to my new, tall, T700. Looking forward to trying some of the mentioned techniques.
Thats quite a step up, from the Hymalayan to the T7.. .congrats!
I have never tried the Hymalayan, but to be honest I am not very optimistic :o
I've experienced exactly the same, the Himalayan is much easier to manage in these situations.
But if you lower the suspension (your yamaha dealer can do it for you), change the seat to the low one, learn to be comfortable in 1 foot and (very important) plan ahead when you stop (choose flat ground spots and place the bike facing the street so it is easier to exit), you'll be fine!
I absolutely LOVED this video!! I'm 58 years old and just bought my first ever motorbike two months ago - a dual purpose 250 with the intention of doing a lot of off-road sightseeing of our beautiful country with my husband, who is a seasoned biker. However, I am "vertically challenged" and although, by some miracle, I'm quite good at staying on my bike over all sorts of rough ground, I keep dropping it when I stop. I still tend to instinctively use the hand brake (I know, not good...) but am now going to practice your butt sliding technique with the foot brake. I so enjoyed your humorous, non-condescending tutorial. Thank you!
Hello Joselyn! So glad you enjoyed the video, and that it was useful to you in any way!
First of all welcome to the "offroad world" and congratulations for starting with a smaller bike (I have another video about NOT learning offroad on big adv bikes)
I would just like to comment that the front wheel brake (hand brake) is very very important off-road. Actually, its the one that actually stops the bike..the rear one is more of a support brake, and that will become more evident as you learn to ride faster and better.
If you struggle with the "decompression" of the suspensions after you brake (and it takes you out of balance and you fall), what you need to do is to ease the brakes as you are about to stop. That will make the bike decompress less abruptly.
As for the front brake, if you need to do an emergency braking (and thats where the front brake becomes essential), you can start by using the rear brake, and immideatly after start pressing the front brake (easy at first, and progressively more and more..) This prevents the front wheel to skid. The more you brake, the more you can brake, becuase the weight is shifted towards the front wheel/suspensions, so you get more traction =)
Wow that was a lot of text... xD
@@OFFroadOFFcourse LOL, that was a lot of text! Might have been quicker to do a video 😂 Thanks for the braking advice, I still have sooo much to learn! I really appreciate your feedback 🙂
I also provide bike training lessons, especially for beginners, using my dual-purpose bikes. Now that you mention it, 99% of the "put downs" occur when shorter learners come to a stop, despite showing them how to butt slide. It sure is a challenge!
Hi Diogo! Loved this - I literally LOLed at some parts! At almost 5’2 and a 27’ inseam I’m definitely your target market for this video. Thanks so much for the butt sliding technique - I’m looking to get into off road motorcycling this year so I’m going to practice the butt sliding drill as soon as I get the bike in the spring. Count me in as a new fan and subscriber. Cheers from 🇨🇦!
Welcome aboard! I am very glad this video was useful to you ^^
What bike are you getting?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thanks! I decided to go with a 2021 KLX300SM as it has a lower seat height. Will swap out the stock street tires for 50/50 tires so I can take her offroad. Can't wait for the spring. Keep up the great work on your channel, I'll be following.
@@JamieStHenri im 5'4" and planning to get yz125x. Haven't driven a motorbike ever since. Wish me luck
@@JamieStHenri Tell me of your first experiences!
@@JamieStHenriI got a KLX 230sm with the fort tiers on at only a little bit taller than you it’s a bit tall
Great explanation, great delivery, good humor and video quality! Thank you!
Thank you for the awesome comment! Please feel free to share he video if you think someone else would appreciate the info 😁😁
But slide is my favorite 😁🤘
18 September, got it!
Great video buddy, fun and instructive.
Rock on! Will I see you there?
I shaved a ton off the seat on my XR650, they’re very thick anyway like 5 inches, reduced it down to where it looks like a trials bike seat now almost but I like it, it feels better to me riding I’m lower to the center of balance on the bike while riding roads and I ride a lot standing up anyway.
Your information is usefull for some of my short buddies thank you man i'm 185 height but i always enjoy a video like this ride safe bro
Hey, Mate. I did another option that you didn't fully cover. It's now a couple of years in the future, and I own a KTM EXC-F 500. Hell of a bike, but insanely tall. My secret weapon against not being able to touch the ground? I'm sure you'd agree that this is the best fix. I learned how to ride a tall bike. Sounds like a no brainer, but it was super difficult to start with. The butt slide is awesome advice, but not depending on touching the ground is even better. I still need to rely on the ground for support, but nowhere near as much as I would, if I just learned how to balance better. Loved the video.
ahaha, thanks ;P
Next time i make a video i will add that option you mentioned: "Option number 4: Get good!"
Own the same bike, and I'm about 1.78m. Didn't ride it for a long time so don't recall using this technique.
However i think i do, and use the kickstand before get of the bike. What i really like of this bike is that when it rolls
it is very balanced and yes a little bit easy going right hand is your life insurance because it's a wild beast.
Have bin driving almost only off road bikes for a life time (64 now).
Started with the Yamaha XT500, that makes me kind of thinking ending with a Himalayan as a sort of antidote. ;)
Nowadays i mostly ride mtb bikes, also an E-bike version. Can be more fun because you can get everywhere without getting chased by police. Chasing a KTM is a bad idea anyway. They lose!
Wow...a true master of the 2 wheels! :D
Never had the pleasure to ride an xt500. Had a 600 for some years as well (and the xt350)
Step 1 don’t stop. 😂. Great video. Hilarious intro. When off-road you have to be ready to do the 1 foot down leg hook really fast. The ground tricks you sometimes. You should make a video about just getting out of the way when it is going over. I see too many people trying to save a situation that is already hopeless. When my 990 gets too far over it is best to just let it drop and step clear.
Thanks for the idea! I might just do that in a future video =)
Excellent and useful video. Very funny also. I'm pretty short, just 1m65, with 52 years of motorcycling. Simply, I've never bought a too tall, and more important a too heavy bike whatever for off-road and road.
The actual fashion of enormous and hyper heavy dual-purpose bikes with 100 useless HP make me laugh. Nice in town, nice to impress girls, nice on paved road, a total horror off-road.
Weight is weight, most of the time that I see that is a poor guy trying to drive a reluctant elephant decided to go elsewhere. When you're a good one, the power may help you to dynamically balance the weight, but that's pretty tricky for the average Joe.
Heavy and under powered is the worst. A very praised "adventure" bestseller bike of 190 kg dry, 25 HP bike is the recipe for suffering a lot, as it's heavy and has no dynamics when the trail is becoming a bit harsh.
Unhappily, there are no more dual-purpose bikes of 400-500 cc 35-40 HP 125-135 kg, air cooled, no plastics to break, no electronics to drown and burn, which, a bit prepared and fully loaded by plenty of gas (at least 20 liters), gear, spare parts and luggage for a long trip in the middle of nowhere weigh less than 190 kg. The Honda XR 400 kited 440, big tank, was a fabulous adventure bike.
The market certainly lacks good modern dual sports. But you should try the himalayan... You really forget its a 190kg bike...its feels just heavy enough to be comfortable :o
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I've tried the Himalayan on road and a bit on dirt. Too heavy and lacking cruelly of the "gnack" needed for lightening the front wheel in some situations, brief dynamics off-road. It's nice for someone who wants to make some road and some easy dirt. I mean really easy.
If you do not mind that it's truly slow on road, it may be good for travelling.
You can do it on a slow bike, even a CT90. I've made with a friend on 1974 a 3000 km trip in Morocco, each with a 125 cc Honda SL kited 175 with a carburettor from a CB 350, around 15 HP but 100 kg dry, ignition points and drum brakes. 115 km/h max.
With the same friend we did it again 20 years later but with XR 440s I had prepared; 125 kg dry, 38 HP and that was a pleasure.
The big mental problem I have with the Himalayan, it's I have owned a XR 440. There is no cure.
The XR 400 or a DR 350 were better than the Himalayan almost 30 years ago, even for adventure long cruise in the Himalayas.
I had the same problems and tried some of the things in the video but the best solution I found was to change the size of the rear tyre. This way the suspenssion is fine cause is you dont have to shorten the shock, the chain works fine, because when you shorten the shock the chain gets less tension, and you can get some cms. The only drawback is that you loose some speed, but you get more torque. In my opinion this is the way.
That is actually a very interesting solution. Did you lower the front too?
Thanks, that is helpful. I am 172cm tall and buying 701 Enduro which has pretty tall seat height of 920mm. They say you need to be at least 185cm tall to ride this Husky comfortable but I will not listen to that... So going to have al ot of fun trying to get used to it but as you also mentioned, I would like to avoid messing with the suspension and seat height at any cost. Maybe I just make the seat a little bit narrower. Cheers and greetings from Poland!
Thank you, I learned a lot from this tutorial.❤🙏
I always enjoy your videos. They're a great mix of informative and hilarious!
Thanks Alex! I'm very proud of this one =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse as you should be! My wife is only 4'11" , and wants to find a bike, so I know the struggle!
The clip starting is hillarious...
The only real problem I have with my T7 Yamaha is pushing it backwards while on the bike.
I have lowered the suspension front and rear but only just touch the ground the slightest hint of a bit of camber or on gravel the bike is almost impossible to push with my legs.
My DR 650 has a very similar seat height but a lot less weight and a little narrower and is so much easier to move the bike around when seated, so I feel so much more confident on my DR, I find it is the real world situations that really show why tall heavy bikes become a problem.
Even the situation of getting the bike off the side stand becomes an issue when parked in the wrong spot with the bike on a bit of a lean.
Have you tried using the front brake to move the bike backwards?
Step 1 - Press the front brake
Step 2 - Rock your body forward, in order to compress the front suspension
Step 3 - Release the front brake when the suspension pushes back up (release when the suspension is almost completely extended again
Step 4 - Help the bike move back with your feet, but mainly use the momentum created by the suspension
tell me if it worked ;)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse that is basically the technique I do use and have used for many bikes in an awkward situation, it works great on a solid surface but on a loose surface it not always so easy to get traction with my feet.
It ifs just one of those things you have to be aware of when you want to own a tall heavy motorcycle or you might be short of stature, like all things motorcycles, everything is a compromise but just be aware and try the less obvious things when test riding a motorcycle.
I had the same problem with my Harley 30 years ago, no hope pushing that backwards up a slight incline, owned that bike 4 weeks and I could touch the ground easily, the whole thing boils down to weight.
Damn I wish more people would know the "butt sliding technique" instead of telling people they can't enduro if they're < 170cm!
TW200 is a hell of an offroad bike
Most people blame the bikes/equipment, but in the end its all about technique.
80% the man, 20% de machine =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Could you give the date of your meetup again is it 18 sept ?
I might come from France, is there a way to PM you ? I know you gave all that in the video but can't find it :[
@@TomTom-gx1sm ahaha, of course, 18 september, my email is info@offroad-offcourse.com and to pm me maybe use my facebook account (Diogo Guerra da Silva, with the offroad offcourse logo :D) thanks for the interest!
Ah, and the registration site is already online, but its in portuguese, I am not sure the broweser can auto-translate it: www.queroir.pt/hub2021-outono or on facebook: fb.me/e/4flhGdB35
Good video. I am 5'5" and ride a stock 2022 KLR650. TALL and HEAVY. I know the pain lol...
As a 990 rider with a short inseam...love the vid! Subbed
hehe, thanks for the comments and welcome aboard!
Another tip I can suggest regarding which way the bike leans when you stop - you'll look lame but tilt your head in the direction you want the bike to lean. It weirdly works.
Oh yeah, that makes sense! Weird but works, ahahah thank you!
Fun opening...
Oh, Mr. Bret, what an honour! :D
I try...your opening on your version of addressing this topic is quite entertaining as well! "no one is looking down on short riders"... brilliant :D
Sometimes I struggle a bit with finding (and saying properly) the right words, so my comedy tends to be a bit more visual.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Greatest respect for your work, man ;)
love this video, straight forward, humor & clear.
Thanks for watching and for commenting man :D I hope it helped!
Very well presented quite a few riders don't think of the obvious
Thank you very much man! And thanks for watching ^^
In English,
I realy love your videos, agora em língua de Camões, fabuloso trabalho e um grande e forte abraço, tudo de bom and keep on rolling with that good work
Grande abraço Marcelo! Obrigado por veres e comentares :D
Awesome Intro, now am interested.
Ahaha you had me with that awesome intro 😄😄😄
Thanks Miguel! That intro almost didnt happen... it was a last second decision :o
At 5'8" (173 centimeters) with a 30" (76 centimeters) inseam, I can attest to the truth you speak. lol
hehe, thanks for another great comment :D
Thanks for the tips Diego.
Any time! Thanks for watching and commenting ^^
Nice videos, and especially this one very helpful for vertically challenged people like me. Going to come pickup an XT660R from Santarem this week and will definitely try the butt sliding.
The start of the video is epic! You got my sub in first 15 sec ov video. 😂
Ahahaha, Welcome aboard! You have no idea how afraid I am to make boring videos :P...hence the effort
Man, I love your videos... so funny!
hehe, thanks Patrick! You can't imagine how good it feels to read stuff like this. Thank you for watching!
Love the intro, at 5'4" I know the feeling
Hey, thanks a lot for the techniques I think that they are manageable to learn (butt slide and turning front wheel direction) - only problem is how practical this is in traffic constant stop and go situations
This and the issue of reversing the bike makes me lean towards wanting both feet to touch the ground
The reason I'm asking is because I got an adventure motorcycle and I'm struggling with reversing + stop and go situations
Hey,thanks for watching! These techniques become easier with time and eventually they become 2nd nature =) Another thing is...when you get a big/tall bike for the first time you end up getting in tough situations more often at first... with some experience you learn to prevent that (example: to learn not to park in a way that will force you to reverse using your feet).
Long story short... it gets better :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thanks! Then there is hope xD
Quality information bud cheers 👍🏻
Glad to help! Hope you had fun too :D
I love that ktm...real endure bike for sure..great info for us shirt guys💪
One of the best bikes ever built probably... and still with a bit of that "90s" feel to it...sturdy and long lasting... not like modern bikes that seem to be made of flower :D
Man this was PERFECT. Thank you!
thanks man! i am glad it was useful ^^
@@OFFroadOFFcourse yup! no more fear of tall bikes!
Happy to find you, you got new subscriber. Saludos from Bolivia.
Happy you found me! Thanks and welcome aboard, Cumpa :D
agh come one!! why did i see this late!! just got my F650gs dakar lowered
Estou a considerar mota big trail e tendo eu 1,68 cms o meu dilema está na altura das mesmas. Esse vídeo foi dos mais úteis nessa questão. Acompanharei agora o canal e espero brevemente também estar presente nos eventos.
obrigado e continuação de bom trabalho
Não é fácil! Mas mais chato que a altura é por vezes a falta de habilidade. Quando ainda se está a dar os primeiros passos em TT estamos constantemente a usar os pés, e isso faz a altura (do piloto ou da moto) parecer mais relevante do que tem de ser.
Daqui a 1-2horas sai o meu review da Himalayan, que embora nao seja "a moto de aventura típica", pode ser uma solução engraçada =)
Mais um belo vídeo, sendo eu um perna-curta, por instinto já utilizo a técnica do "butt-sliding" embora ainda precise de aprimorar a técnica. Quanto ao evento vou já tratar de reservar o dia no meu calendário, com ou sem road-book.
Não vai ser necessário roadbook. Não me considero "dentro disso" o suficiente para organizar uma prova condigna...e para fazer um "roadbook-faz-de-conta" que depois os verdadeirs fãs nao iam ter prazer nenhum a fazer, nao a vale a pena =)
Espero ver-te lá no evento Edgar =)
Keep it up the good work
👍🏻 Great as usual 🙂
My 2nd biggest fan! Thank you for commenting ^^
Haha, nice motorcycle scaling, I would be interested in off road tour in Portugal that sounds like fun sign me up! You supply the bikes?
Hey there Peter! I actually do... I have a bunch of DR350s (with electric start) that make the perfect travel companions for the kind of tours I do here in Portugal =)
Send me an email if you want to talk about it, it would be a pleasure!
info@offroad-offcourse.com
Yes i trided that bike and is a fast dinasour fast heavy dirt bike . !!! The best thing for that giant is to lowered 4" and done . nobody goes ove 14"rocks or logs mostly roads and some gravel
Bravo Diogo .... sempre sagace e simpatico Happy Ride :-)
hehe, thank you Miguel :D
as a vertically challenged dude on a T7, I liked that. just reminded me to spend more time practicing shifting my fat ass!. Go easy, I do love your vids!
Hey, thanks for the comment (and for watching!). Usually there is a technique for everything, and some only become really useful and easy once you learn and practice them for a while.
I hope the video was helpful :)
New Subscriber here! I learned a lot.. ❤️
Love the way you mix "cience" with an amazing sense of humor! I was lucky enough to have an off road course with Diogo. Highly recommend! Thank you Diogo...
''cience' or science like the real scientists say 😁
@@kloppskalli ,😝
Glad you enjoyed it! Now I am eager to see you ride that "new" bike of yours :P
ahahashash my vertically challenged friends will love this! Im actually as tall as you but came here to have fun :D
Best comment! People watching my videos to have fun... it makes me so proud! thank you :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse ❤❤❤
boas dicas. O proximo pode ser acerca do equilibrio na mota :). Abraço
Obrigado pelo comment :)
Ajuda-me, o que queres dizer com o equilibrio, Antonio?
The butt sliding technique is known to me as the Captain Morgan stance. 👍
LOL, that’s a funny intro 😂
a moment of inspiration :P
Thank you for this information
Why can't this bike manufacturers have a lowered seat kit. Or offer two types of bike for taller rider and for short riders.
Actually they kind of do... this KTM950 is the "S" version, the tallest of them all... then they release a couple more models which were slight lower. Just like the new KTM 890R Adventure S and the Adventure R (in this case, the R is the tallest).
But I agree with you... i think bikes should be a bit more modular. Like sell the base bike an then you pick 6 different extras for free. Something like that =)
i'm 69, been riding since about 16...at 158cm short...adventure riding is quite a challenge especially getting to a dead end mountain road on a too big bike where you hv to turn your bike on uneven ground...usually i just drop my bike and pull/push on one off the wheels...footpeg as pivot
Ahaha, well, thats a way to do it! What bike do you ride nowadays, oh venered ancient one? :DD
@@OFFroadOFFcourse a versys 250...i considered to get a bigger cc bike, but also means higher seat level and heavier, which is a minus for me
😃what bike do u ride?
@@Joey-qo2nq i ride a versys 250
Please do a review on the 950 Adv S !!! Please!!!!
German 950 S owner here: Best Bike ever 😍
I don't know if I dare... but I will think about it I promise :D
Awesome vid as always! How do you get the sound so good in the wind?
I'm not doing anything very special :o
My micro (lavalier style with a clip) is hidden inside a littel foam,and thats it.
I also have a "dead cat" but i never use it :o
I also try to keep my chest (where the mic is) not facing the wind.
In my first videos my lavalier mic was a 2eur one connected by a wire to the phone, later i changed for a cheap (40eur ) wireless system called Kimafun from ali express and for the past 3-4 months i've been using a Comica Boom XD (to be honest i didnt feel a considerable difference for the cheap Kimafuns...bit i am not an audio expert at all) :p
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thanks for all the info! Your sound quality is amazing. I always struggle in the wind. I will look for that Kimafuns. Cheers!
I’m 155cm talk and I ride a 86cm bike(f850gs)
Haha the intro is great
Thanks for the comment, Adam :D
Weird question but is a tip toe tall bike manageable in the city with somebody in the pillion.
"It depends" :)
Tip-toeing is not a very good technique as I explain in this video, but it will be even worse if you are not very good balancing the bike (which includes, whenever you stop, to do it with a smooth break and certainty on which side the bike will lean to). All can be done with a bit of practice :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I'm 5' 8" and I am planning to get a KTM 890 Adventure or Triumph Tiger 900 but both of these are such tall bikes especially the KTM. I feel like I'll never be able to ride them with confidence.
@@samcrdx8016 what bike did you have before this one? I am asking cause perhaps you are going for bikes that are too big (power and size) and are not thar ready, yet. More than your own height, your confidence and skill are more important. Nevertheless, if you are going for any of those 2, the 890adv is probably a better choice. Even if it is 1-2cm taller on paper, it will feel smallet and lighter
@@OFFroadOFFcourse KTM Adventure 390. Even that was too tall for me. At 855mm I was always tippy toes on it but somehow adjusted by the arse shifting method and even then never dared to ride with somebody in the pillion lol.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse So I took test rides for both of them and I decided to go with the Tiger 900 but not the Rally, rather the GT version lol. I had no idea this bike existed and apparently it's more of a tourer adventure crossover than a pure adventure breed like the Rally. I felt much confident on it than on the KTM or the Tiger Rally and I rarely do hardcore off roading so the alloy wheels don't bother me that much. All in all I finally have a big boy motorcycle which I can ride with confidence.
Ok maybe I can buy the Tenere now, if only it wasn't so heavy
@Kattrap sure but I am worried I won't be able to pick it up
@Kattrap Yeah. My plan is to ride through africa, won't have someone with me for most of the time. So I have to take something lighter.
Img 5 7 just bought a super t..luv it not bad at all on the seat height..you wont regret the purchase.
hehe, glad I could help (a bit).
Maybe brands will one day start listening to people and create more light-weight adventure machines (propper ones, not weird stuff like the Kawasaki Versys 300 or the KTM390... )
If you have panniers and crash the bike will never go all the way on its side. You will be able to pick it up.
one question here, if use lowering link on suspension and lower the front suspension height let's say V strom 650 , does it affect the riding performance especially with higher speed as i 'm kind of short a little bit. thks
Hey there!
The bike won't be exactly the same, but some say it will change for the better as it will have a lower center o gravity.
Long story short: I don't think you wull feel anything revelant if you make sure yioiu lower the same height front and back =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thanks for reply.
Mais um excelente video
Obrigado por veres e comentares!
thank you
LOL! Sexually attractive! You’re funny... would that be the Tagus river in the background? Fantastic views!
It is the Tagus river! In Portugal we call it "Tejo"!
How did you know?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse you’ll be surprised what I know... LOL
I need to carry wife and luggage. I have a 700mm in-seam and the bike I'm considering buying has a seat height of 825mm. Can you show how this could be managed or should I give up & look for a shorter bike?
Most short rider/tall bike videos only talk about single riders on empty bikes. None has covered tips on managing a tall bike with a pillion & a week's worth of stuff in the pannier boxes.
Hey there! Thanks for the comment and the question! Let me try to work on a solution for your problem...how tall are you exactly and what bike are you considering?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Hi, I'm 168cm tall and the bike in question is the recently launched CFmoto 800MT.
My fallback option is the V-strom 650 simply because I know for sure it has a mega thick seat that I will be able to cut to reduce the seat height drastically! But I'll have to miss out on a lot of other great things if I give up on the 800MT.
Olá de um Diogo parado outro Diogo
Uma questão rápida que talvez consigas ajudar. Gosto muito da África Twin 750 e da KTM 990 Adventure 2007, são duas motas muito diferentes quer na idade quer em potência. Sei que a AT 750 é mudar óleo, meter gasolina e andar. Em contra-partida já ouvir dizer que a KTM 990 dá muitos problemas, avarias… qual a tua opinião? Estou muito inclinado para a KTM 990 pela esgarna que tem 😁. Continua o óptimo trabalho e anseio por ver vídeos sobre as duas motas que mencionei agora dos prós e contras 😃
Mega abraço e aperta com eles
Vivas Diogo! 1º que tudo, tenho de te fazer pensar se uma moto de ~230kg é mesmo o que queres :P
Nao sei se vai ser a tua primeira moto, ou a 15ª moto, mas vejo cada vez mais gente a procurar "motos de aventura" como primeira moto (ou como 2º moto depois da scooter ou da 125cc) e isso é normalmente uma má escolha :D
Posto essa questão de lado... acho que a 950/990 te irão satisfazer muito mais em todos os aspectos. Talvez com 0Km a Africa twin fosse uma moto mais fiável (ou pelo menos de manutenção mais simples) que a 990, mas passados tantos anos 2 coisas aconteceram:
1 - A africa twin envelheceu 30 anos, e embora fosse uma moto fiavel e simples, agora tem borrachas ressequidas, nao sei quantos mil km no motor, umas babas de oleo aqui e ali, uns kilos de ferrugem escondidos algures, uma bobine a fazer isto, um rolamento a fazer aquilo... não ha milagres. Vais provavelmente andar a resolver problemazitos aqui e ali a vida toda.
2 - A 990 só tem 10-15 anos, por isso ainda não é uma moto velha, ainda não tem nada a "cair de podre". Por outro lado, já tem 10-15 anos, ou seja, todos os "problemas típicos" de uma 990 ja devem ter sido resolvidos. Não sei de todos, mas muitos deles eram resolvidos facilmente depois de acontecerm... uma junta no cilindro de trás, um oring nao sei onde, um ajuste ao TPS, etc... por isso as chances de comprar uma 990 que já tenha os problemas tipicos da 990 resolvidos é grande.
e 3º... a 990 é um motão. Ainda hoje é a referência... com todo o respeito e amor à Africa Twin, que teve o seu tempo =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Desde já um enormissimo obrigado de um alentejano para outro pela tua aprontada resposta.
Já tenho experiência em Cross, não sou nenhum expert das competições mas sempre andei desde miúdo.
Chegou a altura de ter uma mota à home! Conforto em fazer viagem e que quando necessário, divertir-me um pouco no mato mas com mais calma no punho porque já não vamos para novos.
A África Twin vai sempre ser a Rainha e que me há-de de ficar no goto. De facto estou bastante inclinado para a KTM 990, há a adventure, S e R… ainda não explorei bem as diferenças. Preocupa-me o conforto em longas distâncias. Seja como for, vou analisar com calma e ver uma ou duas para ver como me sinto nela. Sabes de algum grupo ou site onde a malta troque ideias e possa conversar sobre estas coisas chatas? 😅
Mais uma vez obrigado pelo teu conselho e testemunho Diogo. Mega abraço
Hilariously, helpful, hedio !
oh sorry I mean video 😂
Doing this video on a slope like a boss... 😂
Geat video. Be good.
At 5'6" with a 28" inseam a 36" seat height is an issue. Sure I can slide my butt and plant one foot but then getting the side stand down becomes an interesting conundrum. 33" seat height is best I can do.
Managing a 33" seat height is already very respectable... the KTM950S (with 36") is probably the tallest ADV ever (don't quote me on it though :P)
Thanks for doing this. I am short at 5'4" and I have a 2018 Africa Twin. I have a lowered seat and I have reduced the shock preload on the back. I have not noticed any handling problems. What should I look for? Should I lower the front to level the bike out?
You should always try to level the bike front and back as best as you can cause at least you wont be suffering from that problem (lower back a normal front means the bike will be light on the front wheel which could lead to "steering shakes" at high speeds or lack of traction during turns.
The symptons of a low pre-load would be also steering-shakes, wobbly feeling during long turns, imprecise handling (maybe more, but my knowledge is limited, especially in road environments).
Increasing the rebound on on the rear shocks sometimes helps camouflage some of these symptons but thats like using a mistake to fix another mistake.
If you are happy with your bike (the symptons maybe arent that bad) and dont want to spend money on a proper "lowering kit", than let it be...but if you want to ride with a bit of performance/aggressiveness, then you should set the suspensions properly :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thanks.
Ohh come on! The best solution is to use high heels 😅
you're joking but choosing a pair of boots with a thicker sole might really help :P
@@ricardoneto13 hahahha that's when I ask my buddies to reveal the date of colonizing Mars .
In fact I asked the same question to an ex girlfriend of mine..and ..she kicked my butt .
Hahaha her soles were so thick hahahha
Thanks!!!
Gracias viejos puntos!
Saludos desde Colombia.
Thank you Samael ;) Ride on! ;)
Diogo uma chamada de atenção o email que aqui está na descrição esta errado, têm um C a mais e não dá para enviar email.
Heeeey, e tenho isto mal feito desde o 1º video, ha mais de ano! OBRIGADO! Já corrigi em todos... obrigado obrigado obrigado!!
im 5,4 ft can i buy ninja h2 with my height? 83 cm seat height
Dont take me wrong but if you ask this question you probably shouldn't be considering buying an H2... instead maybe a 600cc or even a "sport-touring" kind of thing?
By the time it makes sense to consider buying a super-bike like the H2 you should have enough experience with ther "R" bikes to know if you can handle their height :o
Anyway, If you follow the tricks on this video I am sure you manage. A lot of short people ride very tall bikes...so if they can do it, you also can =)
In the end, its more a manner of being comfortable around bikes in general (hence my initial consideration)... if you know what you are doing it doesn't really required a lot of height or strenght to keep them standing "with finess" =)
But never buy a bike without trying it first...thats my final advice =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse okay thanks
Tnx
Thank you. 😂😂that is how i feel. Why they make them so tall . it makes no sense . !!!
Step 1 grow taller
step 2, use boots with bigger soles :P
Diogo, isso quer dizer que quem só troca a roda da frente para estilo Supermoto, vai ficar com a frente muito baixa certo?
Estou a dizer isto porque cada vez mais gosto do estilo e porque já tenho roda 17" atrás.
Como sempre excelente vídeo.
Ja agora videos Supermoto eram uma excelente adição para o canal e não fugiam muito no estilo de mota.
@@nelsonsilva6842 obrigado por comentares o video :D
Sim, se pegares numa moto qualquer e só lhe trocares a roda da frente, ela vai descer a frente 5 ou 6cm e isso é uma brutalidade, se nao compensares atràs.
Mas... No caso de uma moto supermotard acho que esta situaçao não é tao grave como na moto de fora-de-estrada, pelo simples facto de que desiquilibrar a moto (+peso na frente e menos atràs) ate pode ser uma coisa boa, para o drift e tal...
Eu nao fujo muito das motos dual-sport e de aventura porque é tudo o que sei. Tenho experiencia pessoal e adquirida nisto, e confiança naquilo que digo. Mesmo que nao saiba tudo nem acerte 100% das vezes, acho q nao ando para aqui a dizer barbaridades.
A minha experiencia com outro tipo de motos é pouca ou nenhuma, por isso arriscava-me a andar aqui a ser um profeta da asneira, e nao quero nada nada fazer isso.
(Isto que acabei de dizer das supermoto e do drift pode muito bem ser a maior idiotíce alguma vez dita sobre motos...)
Dicas valentes!
Obrigado :D Espero que tenha ensinado qualquer coisinha!
Aquilo é a ponte "nova"?
Abraço
É sim senhor :D
im 158 and wanted to have a supermoto,anyone have any bikes recommendation ?😞
I am not a supermoto expert, so i am afraid to even touch the subject.
What CC are you looking for? Is it to ride around town or for travelling?
Are you going into supermoto cause you feel you are too short for dual-sports and advs or because you really want supermoto?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse around 150cc maybe,i really want a supermoto ,i got 28inch inseam
@@Joey-qo2nq how about the ktm duke 125cc? There is also the xt125 supermoto
Oddio muoio dal ridere 100% contraccettivo.....io sono 167 e guido la 790 adv R in offroad posso ben capire
eheheh, grazie! :D
La 790R è una buona bici e non è così alta, giusto?
Grazie per il commento =)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse no no la 790R è alta..per me che sono 167cm è altissima...ho dovuto far regolare il mono e le forcelle oltre a rastremare la sella... riuscivo a guidarla ma in enduro quando dovevo appoggiare i piedi era un disastro
Despite he is a Portuguese. His English skills are good
👍
Does he voice Gru?
I’m probably just an asshole but I heard borat straight away. Other than that great video and helpful!!!
You are not the first mentioning borat in my videos xD
I always heard that ladies dig accents, but probably not Borat's... Doesn't matter, IS NIIICE, I LIKE! 🤣😁
@@OFFroadOFFcourse 😂😂 please say one of his phrases in your next vid lmao and it is a nice accent imo haha
@@thrillbylg i will try! Next video is already done (Voge 300 review) to be online on saturday, but maybe next week xD
How tall are you in cm?
Im 170 cm, Is a problem??
Not at all. You will be more comfortable on shorter bikes, but tall bikes are not inaccessible :)
How tall are you?
Hello! I am 1.80m :)