Jayden Koch am I the only one who thinks mk8 tracks are visually bland and unmemorable? I don’t understand what everyone else sees in the game that I don’t
@@PresumptuousPopplio I'm referring to mk8 Toad's Turnpike which is rated 55. It is simply a boring track compared to its other trafic counter part, Moon view Highway, which was only criticized for being to hard due to the cars and its "boring" layout. Yet he still rates a literal figure 8 with some cars as an after thought higher. It just shows that he only focusses on casual play and anything remotely difficult or unfair is considered bad.
@P1 yeah like on MKWii, Rainbow Road is so hard for me to beat and he was like “it’s very challenging” like I don’t get it. I honestly like the DS Rainbow Road more than the others, it’s my favorite, and I also like the N64 Rainbow Road remake in MK8D more than the one from MKWii.
Special cup as well. Moon view highway is extremely fun and same with dry dry ruins. And try he bowser castle is the best one in the series and rainbow road as well
@@rydinoKOF dry dry ruins and bowser castle are both way better on the wii than in there mario kart 8 versions, as well is dk mountain. Also Rainbow road is one of the best
@@accusedtoppat dolphin shoals is the best underwater track in the series, it’s frickin GORGEOUS, and has by far the best music out of any other track in the entire franchise, so the only reason it’s not the perfect cup is because you’re opinion is horrible:/
Using the math he used to rank the cups in this video, I've been able to figure out his personal ranking of the eight main games overall. 8. SMK - 48.25 7. MKSC - 42 6. MK64 - 36.75 5. MKDS - 32.87 4. MKWii - 27.5 3. MKDD - 18.5 2. MK7 - 17.12 1. MK8 - 15.41
@@laptopcase Well this is specifically comparing the track design, so stuff like glitches and ultra shortcuts probably shouldn't be counted for, especially since those are unintentional, and are basically exploits.
@@laptopcase MK8 still probably would have won. In terms of speed and fluidity MKWii is it’s only rival, and it’s graphics and gravity-changing mechanics would probably push it over the top, if the courses didn’t already
Mario Kart 7 did a lot and brought a lot to the Mario Kart series. Despite it being a handheld, it was a pretty well done game that's fun to play. Looking back, I've begun to appreciate it a lot more.
I'll never understand the hate for Mario Kart Stadium from MK8. Yes it's an easy track but it feels like a celebration, to kick off the game. The atmosphere and music is incredible, the glider and anti gravity moments have great lead ups while being non imposing, and of all the regular courses it feels the most like an actual kart track. It blurs the line between normal and crazy perfectly.
Black sheep doesn’t mean bad, it just means the most unusual. And considering the other tracks are relatively normal (except RR’s length) it makes sense that Yoshi Valley’s multipath gimmick would make it a standout
One of the larger shockers for me was wii mushroom cup being that low. 3 fantastic starter tracks brought down by a just normal track, not back not incredible. Mushroom cups are destined to not be as high for that reason alone Also wii star cup is number 1
I don't know, Luigi's Circuit is actually kinda bad. It's one of the simplest tracks in the whole franchise...like, Super Mario Kart levels of simple. It's barely more than Mario Circuit 1. And it leaves almost nothing to skill.
Mario Kart 8's Star Cup is more consistent, but Maple Treeway is peak. Wii has by far the best Mushroom Cup it's not even close, but it's still not touching many of the best Star & Lightning Cups unfortunately.
@@Melecie It's not just "taking the mean" that is useful. You need to actually know what kind of mean is good for the analysis you are doing. Averaging some numbers does not just give good insights about anything
MK7 has lot of amazing tracks and cups, sadly it isn't one of my favorite Mario Kart games, for me it's kinda slow and the character selection is a bit meh... Amazing video, agree on most of it!
@@Brebgon Yeah. Honestly it's surprising how infrequently MK's racetracks directly reference the main games. SMK was based directly on SMW, but after that they kinda just did whatever. You'd get the occasional track that is a massive reference, like Airship Fortress or Piranha Plant Slide, but it's not that common.
@@k-leb4671 Tbh I think that's better. More new themes in the nitros and makes it more thrilling when a new track does reference past games. If it happened so much more it would just lose that feel.
I agree with your list in general, but personally, there are a few tracks I would have switched around. Koopa Cape is my favorite course, and Maple Treeway third, so Wii's Star Cup would've won hands down for me. Otherwise, I agree with a lot of it. 3ds's star cup, despite never having seen your videos, definitely deserves a top spot.
I recently ranked all tracks from worst to best, so I also decided to rank all cups as well. For me, Mario Kart 8’s Star cup was the best with a score of 25.25
I thought MK8's Lightning Cup would have won. Well Best MK8 Cup, 2nd Best Cup Overall, & Best Retro Cup is good enough for me lol (Edit was to add the "Best Retro Cup" statement because that somehow missed me when I originally commented this reply lol)
21:36 I saw DK's Snowboard cross, Melody motorway, Alpine pass and I realised that that was the UK version (It's DK Summit, Rock Rock Mountain, Music park!)
Hello just watching this before an essay is due tomorrow lol 😂Just one thing. If you had to rank the cups by tiers SS to F, where would each cup stack up against each other 😊
It’s pretty interesting to see that the Star Cup’s are considered by most people as the best or close cup in each game, definitely saw that the best was in Star Cup in the latter half in the series. And just so you know, yeah I’m all for Wii’s Star Cup
Fun Fact: Of the 16 retro tracks that has made it into the Lighting Cup since it returned as the final Retro Cup in the Retro Grain Prix: 9 were from Various Star Cups 5 were from Various Special Cups 1 was from the GBA Lightning Cup* & 1 was from the SNES Flower Cup. *Lightning Cup made it's debut as a Nitro Cup in the Nitro Grand Prix in Super Circuit, before returning as the final Retro Cup in the Retro Grain Prix; this is the only time a cup has switched from 1 type of Grand Prix to another.
It’s cause they aren’t stuck with bowers castle and rainbow road so they get 4 original ideas and they don’t require easy tracks like the mushroom and Star cups
Mario Kart Cups Time Stamps Mushroom Cups 4:15 Super Mario Kart 10:19 Mario Kart 64 2:22 Mario Kart Super Circuit 24:13 Mario Kart Double Dash 8:02 Mario Kart DS and 3DS 13:11 Mario Kart Wii 13:42 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Flower cup 1:29 Super Mario Kart 5:56 Mario Kart 64 9:52 Mario Kart Super Circuit 19:06 Mario Kart Double Dash 14:23 Mario Kart DS 21:10 Mario Kart Wii 26:16 Mario Kart 3DS 16:05 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Star Cup 3:37 Super Mario Kart 10:54 Mario Kart 64 11:16 Mario Kart Super Circuit 11:37 Mario Kart Double Dash 20:37 Mario Kart DS 19:59 Mario Kart Wii 33:47 Mario Kart 3DS 29:16 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Special Cup 9:07 Super Mario Kart 18:12 Mario Kart 64 6:33 Mario Kart Super Circuit 25:31 Mario Kart Double Dash 29:58 Mario Kart DS 27:46 Mario Kart Wii 30:44 Mario Kart 3DS 24:50 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Shell Cup 2:56 Mario Kart DS 5:21 Mario Kart Wii 12:16 Mario Kart 3DS 17:05 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Banana Cup 4:44 Mario Kart DS 14:45 Mario Kart Wii 27:12 Mario Kart 3DS 22:18 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Leaf Cup 7:11 Mario Kart DS 12:48 Mario Kart Wii 15:24 Mario Kart 3DS 28:27 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe Lightning Cup 11:48 Mario Kart Super Circuit 19:33 Mario Kart DS 16:34 Mario Kart Wii 31:36 Mario Kart 3DS 32:59 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe (Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Egg Cup 22:52 (Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Crossing Cup 23:35 (Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Triforce Cup 21:41 (Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Bell Cup 32:10
Great video! It's nice to see how the average of every cup's tracks delivers a completely new result. I'd never expect to see Mario Kart 7's Star Cup on the first place. It was a quite enjoyable cup and I like how you ranked Wario's Galleon 10th overall, but I guess I would never choose this cup to be one of my favorites without mathematical arguments. :D Would be interesting to know if your feeling about this ranking matches with the maths or were you surprised yourself?
I think you've never shelled someone off the edge of the ramp in Wario Stadium N64. There's nothing more euphoric than getting first because you timed that green shell perfectly to ruin someone's day
Personally mine would probs have to be special cup wii (I am not biased to wii I just think the physics engine makes the tracks so much more fun, especially Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road, my favourite renditions of their respective names)
I'm so glad we got waluigi pinball as a mk8 dlc remake, the new version is one of my favorite tracks of all time! (along with neo bowser city - maybe my #1 of all, koopa cape, mushroom gorge, wii's rainbow road, music park, and big blue)
I literally read the title, opened the video, thought of what my favorite cup is (mk7 star cup) skipped to the end and he got it right!! you have good taste man
This concept was pretty interesting to watch seeing how another individual’s track values stack up. The “math” though, is obviously going to weigh on preference almost entirely, so this video is more of a “for fun” averaging exercise than a concrete list that would need a few more factors considered, (such as how the course position is relayed in each cup or how the collection of courses work together to provide a good mix of gameplay diversity as examples) but what mattered most was that the video and commentary were still entertaining. I would have to say my personal favorite cup in the entire Mario Kart series is the All Cup Tour from Mario Kart Double Dash!!. Is it fair to even include it? Nah, but it IS a grand prix cup, and I have a soft spot for this one off inclusion. The fun already begins when choosing your favorite character and kart combo you’ve discovered to stick with to the end of the ultimate race. I love how it starts with Luigi’s Circuit and it always ends on Rainbow Road, which are personally two of my high picks in the series. Every course in between is unpredictably randomized, and it’s just fun counting down the stages, guessing which track the game could throw at you next, and tally your points into the hundreds. It’s honestly pretty fun when my own less experienced or more difficult tracks get queued, like Sherbet Land or Wario’s Colosseum as my own examples. You know they’ll show up every time, but when they do, it just fills me up with an exciting “Aww sh*t. Here we go again…” energy to try and handle the situation. It actually turned some of my once least preferred to play courses into my top favorites, like Dino Dino Jungle, Rainbow Road and -I don’t even know how it won me over- Wario Colosseum. It’s not perfect though. Playing the tour on 50cc or even 100cc makes each race take a much longer time that it needs, with minimal actual challenge from your competition. Getting two similar themed stages in a row can be a little disappointing too. And to be honest, I usually just slap either Petey Piranha or King Boo as a default character on the team for the added item pool diversity for dealing with sixteen consecutive races, but I wouldn’t lie in saying that if I could only choose one prix cup to ever play again (as in, the way how it is intended), either 150cc or Mirror All Cup Tour has just gotta be the only answer from me. It has to be my most replayed cup in the entire series purely for a fun time. - Noah
MKWii’s Flower Cup is so amazing. You praised Waluigi Stadium for utilizing the trick mechanic to make it fun, yet you don’t give the same praise to DK Summit. And for some reason, you think Wario’s Gold Mine is slightly above average (105/216), even though it has so much personality and atmosphere.
Best Cup from every Mario Kart (Because Video Too long didn't watch.) Super Mario Kart: Special Cup Mario Kart 64: Special Cup Mario Kart Super Circuit: Lightning Cup Mario Kart Double Dash: Special Cup Mario Kart DS: Special Cup Mario Kart Wii: Special Cup Mario Kart 7: Star Cup Mario Kart 8: Lightning Cup (In My Opinion.) The Best Cup is the Wii U / Switch Lightning Cup. DS Tick-Tock Clock (3) 3DS Piranha Plant Slide (7) Wii Grumble Volcano (8) N64 Rainbow Road (1) (3+7+8+1)/4 = 4.75
As a mathematics student, I'm very disappointed that you just took the arithmetic mean of the individual rankings when you said “with Math!” in the title. There are more kinds of averages. For example, the harmonic mean would've given more representative results, as better tracks count more towards the average. An example: say if you had a cup with numbers 2, 3, 4, and 150. And another one with 18, 26, 40 and 72. According to your calculations, the second one would receive a higher rating, even though three of the four best tracks are in the first one. The harmonic mean accounts for that. With the harmonic mean, you'd calculate the reciprocal of the sum of reciprocals (times the number of things). This approach makes much more sense for rankings, since towards the bottom of the list, the differences between courses aren't very big. (200 vs. 210 and 1 vs. 11 are quite different, though the amount of rankings in-between is equal) The geometric mean is also suitable for this purpose, by the way. So yeah. Thanks for reading.
@@Melecie Here you go. I noticed that the harmonic mean is too sensitive. For the harmonic mean top 5, one of the tracks was always in the global top 5, the other tracks in the cup effectively didn't count. So I chose to sort by the geometric mean instead; multiplying all rank values together and taking the [number-of-tracks-in-cup]th square root of the result. And to be honest, it gives surprisingly good results. _A quick aside: Mario Kart Tour also uses something close to the geometric mean to determine the winning team in multiplayer races._ *legend:* arithmetic mean (original) - *geometric mean* - harmonic mean - Cup sorted by geometric mean 3 - 1 - 1 - Bell Cup (Mario Kart 8) 5 - 2 - 2 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 7) 1 - 3 - 10 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 7) 2 - 4 - 6 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart 8) 4 - 5 - 7 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart 7) 10 - 6 - 3 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart 7) 8 - 7 - 5 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart 8) 20 - 8 - 9 - Star Cup (Mario Kart DS) 11 - 9 - 8 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 7) 7 - 10 - 12 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 8) 6 - 11 - 18 - Special Cup (Mario Kart DS) 9 - 12 - 20 - Special Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 13 - 13 - 13 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 8) 30 - 14 - 4 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart DS) 12 - 15 - 19 - Special Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash) 19 - 16 - 11 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 18 - 17 - 16 - Triforce Cup (Mario Kart 8) 14 - 18 - 14 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash) 17 - 19 - 17 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart 8) 15 - 20 - 15 - Crossing Cup (Mario Kart 8) 21 - 21 - 21 - Star Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 16 - 22 - 23 - Egg Cup (Mario Kart 8) 27 - 23 - 25 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 29 - 24 - 22 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart 7) 22 - 25 - 27 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart DS) 30 - 26 - 24 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 24 - 27 - 29 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 64) 32 - 28 - 26 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 8) 23 - 29 - 30 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash) 26 - 30 - 33 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart 8) 28 - 31 - 31 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 8) 25 - 32 - 36 - Star Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash) 37 - 33 - 28 - Star Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit) 35 - 34 - 32 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart 7) 34 - 35 - 34 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 33 - 36 - 37 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 36 - 37 - 35 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit) 38 - 38 - 40 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 64) 42 - 39 - 39 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart DS) 41 - 40 - 38 - Special Cup (Super Mario Kart) 39 - 41 - 41 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 64) 42 - 42 - 42 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 7) 40 - 43 - 43 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit) 44 - 44 - 44 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart DS) 45 - 45 - 45 - Special Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit) 46 - 46 - 46 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 64) 47 - 47 - 47 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart Wii) 48 - 48 - 48 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart DS) 49 - 49 - 49 - Mushroom Cup (Super Mario Kart) 50 - 50 - 50 - Star Cup (Super Mario Kart) 51 - 51 - 51 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart DS) 52 - 52 - 52 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit) 53 - 53 - 53 - Flower Cup (Super Mario Kart) I hope Jamie sees this … 😅 Anyway, thanks for your request.
I'll do Top 37 cups (not including retro) with your system. For DLC, I'll judge them from the NITRO tracks, so the Retro won't include. #37. Flower Cup [118.4] - Super Mario Kart Choco Island 1 [76] Ghost Valley 2 [145] Donut Plains 2 [93] Bowser Castle 2 [138] Mario Circuit 3 [140] #36. Mushroom Cup [117.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit Peach Circuit [137] Shy Guy Beach [91] Riverside Park [110] Bowser Castle 1 [131] #35. Star Cup [111.8] - Super Mario Kart Koopa Beach 1 [69] Choco Island 2 [139] Vanilla Lake 1 [102] Bowser Castle 3 [122] Mario Circuit 4 [127] #34. Mushroom Cup [108.2] - Super Mario Kart Mario Circuit 1 [135] Donut Plains 1 [134] Ghost Valley 1 [82] Bowser Castle 1 [103] Mario Circuit 2 [87] #33. Mushroom Cup [106.75] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Luigi Circuit [106] Peach Beach [97] Baby Park [111] Dry Dry Desert [113] #32. Special Cup [103] - Super Mario Kart Donut Plains 3 [141] Koopa Beach 2 [95] Ghost Valley 3 [94] Vanilla Lake 2 [132] Rainbow Road [53] #31. Flower Cup [98] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit Mario Circuit [123] Boo Lake [117] Cheese Land [49] Bowser Castle 2 [103] #30. Special Cup [97] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit Lakeside Park [107] Broken Pier [112] Bowser Castle 4 [96] Rainbow Road [73] #29. Mushroom Cup [94] - Mario Kart 7 Toad Circuit [126] Daisy Hills [85] Cheep Cheep Lagoon [121] Shy Guy Bazaar [46] #28. Star Cup [93.25] - Mario Kart 64 Wario Stadium [92] Sherbet Land [144] Royal Raceway [116] Bowser's Castle [21] #27. Mushroom Cup [89.95] - Mario Kart DS Figure-8 Circuit [133] Yoshi Falls [118] Cheep Cheep Beach [90] Luigi's Mansion [18] #26. Mushroom Cup [88.25] - Mario Kart 64 Luigi Raceway [130] Moo Moo Farm [88] Koopa Troopa Beach [80] Kalimari Desert [55] #25. Flower Cup [85.5] - Mario Kart 64 Toad's Turnpike [65] Frappe Snowland [114] Choco Mountain [38] Mario Raceway [125] #24. Star Cup [80.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit Snow Land [143] Ribbon Road [39] Yoshi Desert [79] Bowser Castle 3 [62] #23. Mushroom Cup [75.5] - Mario Kart 8 Mario Kart Stadium [75] Water Park [120] Sweet Sweet Canyon [83] Thwomp Ruins [24] #22. Egg Cup [74] - Mario Kart 8 Excitebike Arena [142] Dragon Driftway [28] Mute City [52] #21. Mushroom Cup [72] - Mario Kart Wii Luigi Circuit [129] Moo Moo Meadows [74] Mushroom Gorge [37] Toad's Factory [48] #20. Triforce Cup [71.5] - Mario Kart 8 Ice Ice Outpost [128] Hyrule Circuit [15] #19. Special Cup [70.5] - Mario Kart 64 DK's Jungle Parkway [105] Yoshi Valley [66] Banshee Boardwalk [12] Rainbow Road [99] #18. Flower Cup [69] - Mario Kart 8 Mario Circuit [124] Toad Harbour [25] Twisted Mansion [101] Shy Guy Falls [26] #17. Special Cup [66.25] - Mario Kart 7 DK Jungle [72] Rosalina's Ice World [119] Bowser's Castle [71] Rainbow Road [3] #16. Special Cup [63.25] - Mario Kart 8 Cloudtop Cruise [10] Bone-Dry Dunes [108] Bowser's Castle [35] Rainbow Road [100] #14. Flower Cup [58.5] (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!) & Special Cup [58.5] (Mario Kart DS Flower Cup: Mushroom Bridge [68] Mario Circuit [78] Daisy Cruiser [41] Waluigi Stadium [47] Special Cup: Wario Stadium [59] Peach Gardens [70] Bowser Castle [54] Rainbow Road [51] #13. Star Cup [57] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Sherbet Land [67] Mushroom City [19] Yoshi Circuit [86] DK Mountain [56] #12. Lightning Cup [55.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit Luigi Circuit [63] Sky Garden [13] Cheep-Cheep Island [136] Sunset Wilds [9] #11. Flower Cup [53] - Mario Kart Wii Mario Circuit [98] Coconut Mall [5] DK Summit [32] Wario's Gold Mine [77] #10. Flower Cup [52.5] - Mario Kart DS Desert Hills [115] Delfino Square [33] Waluigi Pinball [20] Shroom Ridge [42] #9. Star Cup [51.25] - Mario Kart DS DK Pass [109] Tick-Tock Clock [30] Mario Circuit [64] Airship Fortress [2] #8. Star Cup [45.75] - Mario Kart Wii Daisy Circuit [84] Koopa Cape [61] Maple Treeway [7] Grumble Volcano [31] #6. Crossing Cup [43] (Mario Kart 8) & Special Cup [43] (Mario Kart Wii) Crossing Cup: Wild Woods [29] Animal Crossing [57] Special Cup: Dry Dry Ruins [89] Moonview Highway [44] Bowser's Castle [22] Rainbow Road [17] #5. Bell Cup [42.5] - Mario Kart 8 Super Bell Subway [81] Big Blue [4] #4. Flower Cup [40] - Mario Kart 7 Wuhu Loop [60] Mario Circuit [50] Music Park [27] Rock Rock Mountain [23] #3. Special Cup [27.5] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Wario Colosseum [43] Dino Dino Jungle [40] Bowser's Castle [16] Rainbow Road [11] #2. Star Cup [25.75] - Mario Kart 8 Sunshine Airport [36] Dolphin Shoals [45] Electrodrome [8] Mount Wario [14] #1. Star Cup [24.75] - Mario Kart 7 Piranha Plant Slide [34] Wario's Shipyard [6] Neo Bowser City [58] Maka Wuhu [1]
Jamie: *Explaining why the Wii Star Cup Tracks are a little lower than most people think* “Come on, there are so many great tracks, some had to sit a little low.” Also Jamie: *Ranks SNES Rainbow Road at 45 and DK’s Jungle Parkway 3 spots higher than Koopa Cape*
Mario kart DS has the Worst retro tracks imo. Mk7 ruined all Wii tracks Mk8 had great tracks but I hated the gameplay and PHYSICS Mkw is the best mk imo because of the great tracks (only 2 tracks I dont like) the best gameplay gameplay and it's super fun messing with the PHYSICS and mkw had the best shortcuts in any Mario kart game, plus addicting online play. Mk7 was just meh
how you don’t have 500k+ subs is beyond me. your content is original, the quality of it is supreme, you come across as a nice guy, all whilst getting some puns in your videos and being extremely professional. keep up the good work man!!
It was extremely professional. I thought he would have several hundred thousand subs at least. I hadn't paid any attention to it until I saw this comment bc I just assumed that content this well made came only from people with many more subs, I am glad to see I was wrong.
Super Mario Kart : 4. Flower Cup 3. Star Cup 2. Mushroom Cup 1. Special Cup Mario Kart 64 : 4. Flower Cup 3. Mushroom Cup 2. Star Cup 1. Special Cup Mario Kart Super Circuit : 10. Extra Star Cup 09. Extra Flower Cup 08. Mushroom Cup 07. Extra Lightning Cup 06. Extra Mushroom Cup 05. Special Cup 04. Flower Cup 03. Extra Special Cup 02. Star Cup 01. Lightning Cup Mario Kart Double Dash : 5. Marathon Cup 4. Star Cup 3. Flower Cup 2. Mushroom Cup 1. Special Cup Mario Kart DS : 8. Shell Cup 7. Banana Cup 6. Leaf Cup 5. Mushroom Cup 4. Flower Cup 3. Lightning Cup 2. Star Cup 1. Special Cup Mario Kart Wii : 8. Shell Cup 7. Leaf Cup 6. Mushroom Cup 5. Banana Cup 4. Lightning Cup 3. Star Cup 2. Flower Cup 1. Special Cup Mario Kart 7 : 8. Mushroom Cup 7. Shell Cup 6. Leaf Cup 5. Flower Cup 4. Banana Cup 3. Special Cup 2. Lightning Cup 1. Star Cup
The special cup on mario kart double dash will always be the best cup in Mario kart it has the best rainbow road the best bowsers castle and the best ever track in mario kart
Every time I watch a Mario kart ranking video on UA-cam I’m reminded that I’m probably the only person on the planet that just absolutely despises mk8’s twisted mansion. It’s my least favorite track in the game, and easily lands a spot in the bottom 20 tracks of all time for me.
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Fun fact: GCN Mario Circuit was originally going to be the first track in the Mushroom Cup as seen in an early version of Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
The 3DS Star Cup is best on average but the 3DS Banana Cup is best in terms of best two tracks.
@@literallyafrog367 you mean best retro cup in the series?
You are telling me that Toad’s Turnpike, a literal figure 8, is better than Moon View Highway, a dynamic and high skill track.
Jayden Koch am I the only one who thinks mk8 tracks are visually bland and unmemorable? I don’t understand what everyone else sees in the game that I don’t
@@drggphd6711 ikr like 4/48 tracks are actually gr8, the others are mostly boring, compared to mkwii
>Toad's Turnpike (150)
>Moonview Highway (130)
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@@PresumptuousPopplio I'm referring to mk8 Toad's Turnpike which is rated 55. It is simply a boring track compared to its other trafic counter part, Moon view Highway, which was only criticized for being to hard due to the cars and its "boring" layout. Yet he still rates a literal figure 8 with some cars as an after thought higher. It just shows that he only focusses on casual play and anything remotely difficult or unfair is considered bad.
@P1 yeah like on MKWii, Rainbow Road is so hard for me to beat and he was like “it’s very challenging” like I don’t get it. I honestly like the DS Rainbow Road more than the others, it’s my favorite, and I also like the N64 Rainbow Road remake in MK8D more than the one from MKWii.
MKWii Star cup shouldve been higher. I love Koopa Cape, Grumble Volcano. And Maple Treeway is my favorite track of all time
Special cup as well. Moon view highway is extremely fun and same with dry dry ruins. And try he bowser castle is the best one in the series and rainbow road as well
Also the mushroom cup is one of my favorites. It had mushroom gorge and toad factory
@@rydinoKOF dry dry ruins and bowser castle are both way better on the wii than in there mario kart 8 versions, as well is dk mountain. Also Rainbow road is one of the best
maple treeway is the 3rd best for me, daisy circuit is like 70th for me or smtin, grumble volcano is like my 15th fav and koopa cape is like my 24th
Yeah that's a top 3 cup imo
I really like MK8's star cup. Sunshine Airport, Mount Wario, and Electodrome (my favourite nitro track in MK8) are all top 30 for me.
What about Dolphin Shoals
Mount Wario is my 2nd Favorite. Big Blue is the best one though
Star Cup in mk8 would have been the perfect cup if it didn’t have dolphin shoals :/
@@accusedtoppat dolphin shoals is the best underwater track in the series, it’s frickin GORGEOUS, and has by far the best music out of any other track in the entire franchise, so the only reason it’s not the perfect cup is because you’re opinion is horrible:/
@@mikeywebb9598 the star cups in wii, 8, and 7 are the best star cups
Using the math he used to rank the cups in this video, I've been able to figure out his personal ranking of the eight main games overall.
8. SMK - 48.25
7. MKSC - 42
6. MK64 - 36.75
5. MKDS - 32.87
4. MKWii - 27.5
3. MKDD - 18.5
2. MK7 - 17.12
1. MK8 - 15.41
Your forgetting about game mechanics, glitches and all the other thing going under the radar on this ranking, however, this is really cool
@@laptopcase Well this is specifically comparing the track design, so stuff like glitches and ultra shortcuts probably shouldn't be counted for, especially since those are unintentional, and are basically exploits.
@@Absolute_Zero7 fair enough
@@laptopcase MK8 still probably would have won. In terms of speed and fluidity MKWii is it’s only rival, and it’s graphics and gravity-changing mechanics would probably push it over the top, if the courses didn’t already
Mario Kart 7 did a lot and brought a lot to the Mario Kart series. Despite it being a handheld, it was a pretty well done game that's fun to play. Looking back, I've begun to appreciate it a lot more.
I'll never understand the hate for Mario Kart Stadium from MK8. Yes it's an easy track but it feels like a celebration, to kick off the game. The atmosphere and music is incredible, the glider and anti gravity moments have great lead ups while being non imposing, and of all the regular courses it feels the most like an actual kart track. It blurs the line between normal and crazy perfectly.
Also it has sick shortcuts on 200cc.
Completely agree - super underrated track. It’s so good
tbh I think a lot of the reason people don't really like it is because it's another circuit track, but I still like it a lot
its the first track in the game ofc its gonna be easy. do people really hate it for that?
it’s an awesome track with an amazing music piece to compliment it
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I’m disappointed in you. You didn’t say “I give this track a Pass” while talking about DK Pass.
I'm disappointed in me.
jamiethepayne you should be >:(
Lol
i hate dk pass
@@dex-6712 dk pass is a decent course
In what universe is Yoshi Valley the "black sheep" of the Special Cup lol
The original N64 version is fantastic
he said the track layout is confusing.. i memorized that layout as a kid, and i imagine a lot of other people did too
@@badboy-si4jg there's literally just one path you need to take. i don't get how that is confusing.
The mk64 controls make the track unfun
Black sheep doesn’t mean bad, it just means the most unusual. And considering the other tracks are relatively normal (except RR’s length) it makes sense that Yoshi Valley’s multipath gimmick would make it a standout
DK's Jungle Parkway and Yoshi Valley are the N64 Special Cup's highlights while Rainbow Road and Banshee Boardwalk are the lowlights to me.
One of the larger shockers for me was wii mushroom cup being that low. 3 fantastic starter tracks brought down by a just normal track, not back not incredible. Mushroom cups are destined to not be as high for that reason alone
Also wii star cup is number 1
I don't know, Luigi's Circuit is actually kinda bad. It's one of the simplest tracks in the whole franchise...like, Super Mario Kart levels of simple. It's barely more than Mario Circuit 1. And it leaves almost nothing to skill.
I completely agree, especially with wii star cup, it is way too low
Wii star cup is best
@@Blueturtle1yea he trashed Koopa Cape so hard in my opinion
Mario Kart 8's Star Cup is more consistent, but Maple Treeway is peak. Wii has by far the best Mushroom Cup it's not even close, but it's still not touching many of the best Star & Lightning Cups unfortunately.
MK Wii's star cup has always been my fav lmao
iiSharkwolf The special cup too mate. It's better than DS Special cup
@@rydinoKOF fr tho
Only the DS's and Wii U's Star Cups really come within a million miles of it, most others are light years away.
Sameeee all the courses are god tier.
@Seth Borgeson *nitro*
jamie: takes averages
also jamie: M a T h E m A t I c S
You should've known: UA-camrs have zero knowledge of math.
averaging is math and taking the mean is actually useful in statistics
@@Melecie It's not just "taking the mean" that is useful. You need to actually know what kind of mean is good for the analysis you are doing. Averaging some numbers does not just give good insights about anything
@@Strobenz if it really didnt it would be used much less
@@LaelGames7913 the reason why it is used so much is because most people don't know shit about math lol
MK7 has lot of amazing tracks and cups, sadly it isn't one of my favorite Mario Kart games, for me it's kinda slow and the character selection is a bit meh... Amazing video, agree on most of it!
I just wish there was a non-multiplayer VS race option. Like why isn't in Mario Kart 7?
@@akluv2403 Maybe VS mode is much better suited for consoles and not handhelds because of local multiplayer, so Nintendo didn't include it
@@Marshall.R Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart Super Circuit say "You talking shit to me?"
MK7 in my opinion has the best selection of retro courses
It has the best Rainbow Road
7:26 it's frustrating when this happens, absolute bullsh!t
Yeah
It's hard to argue with this man's assesment
33:57: "piranha plant pipeway is shockingly the first track to be based on the underground"
Wario's Gold Mine: am I A joKE To yOu
Then why can I see a sunset in Wario’s Gold Mine
@@zaneheaston8254 because you didn’t go underground yet or already
I think he meant it's the first track to be based on the underground levels in the 2D Super Mario games
@@Brebgon Yeah.
Honestly it's surprising how infrequently MK's racetracks directly reference the main games. SMK was based directly on SMW, but after that they kinda just did whatever. You'd get the occasional track that is a massive reference, like Airship Fortress or Piranha Plant Slide, but it's not that common.
@@k-leb4671 Tbh I think that's better. More new themes in the nitros and makes it more thrilling when a new track does reference past games. If it happened so much more it would just lose that feel.
i'm happy someone finally ranked the mario kart cups. it's the one ranking we've been missing on youtube.
Yes.
The only other guy who has done this is "Waluigi the Master" so yes I totally agree
Wait Albert Boris existed before the booster course pass?
Interesting fact despite how many Mario karts there were there was never a game just called Mario kart the first one was Super Mario kart
NIGHTMARE 999 4 never realised that 🤯😅
We’ll probably get a gritty reboot just called Mario Kart one day
I mean, if Mario Kart came out on the NES, it could probably have that name, but the game would probably look awful
@@superyoshiverde7911 its not that it would look terrible, it just flat out be impossible and thats not an exaggeration.
I agree with your list in general, but personally, there are a few tracks I would have switched around. Koopa Cape is my favorite course, and Maple Treeway third, so Wii's Star Cup would've won hands down for me. Otherwise, I agree with a lot of it. 3ds's star cup, despite never having seen your videos, definitely deserves a top spot.
I agree that koopa cape is amazing but waluigi pinball is alot better
FINALLY someone who loves koopa cape.
What about Grumble Volcano and Daisy Circuit?
WITH MATHS!
Why is the Mario kart wii star cup so far down!!!!
It is definitely top 5!!!!
To you. It’s an opinionated list.
It’s me, DJ he’s giving his opinion
@@BitBANANA222 Josh is saying that as if MKWii's Star Cup shoud be Top 5 Objectively.
Thunder Master clearly not
Duupar In literally not a single list on earth where nr.100 is twice as good as nr.200. Not a single one. It’s just not how rankings work
The Star cup is always my favorite, Wii and 8.
Same bro same
I recently ranked all tracks from worst to best, so I also decided to rank all cups as well. For me, Mario Kart 8’s Star cup was the best with a score of 25.25
Litteraly all the tracks are amazing
Star cup in Mario kart 8 is the best Grand Prix by far
Yes each track is a banger! Definitley a top 5 cup in the franchise!
Thought Mario Kart 8's Star Cup would've won but. . .
yeah same
Oof. You were just one game off.
I thought MK8's Lightning Cup would have won.
Well Best MK8 Cup, 2nd Best Cup Overall, & Best Retro Cup is good enough for me lol
(Edit was to add the "Best Retro Cup" statement because that somehow missed me when I originally commented this reply lol)
Fusion Cyborg cool.👍
Yeah sunshine airport and mount wario are my favorite mario kart tracks ever
Peasant: Mario
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SNES Rainbow Road: [Ranks High In All Carnations]
Me: So you have chosen, death?
@Jason Kott It is
SNES Rainbow Road is decent in both Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart 7.
SNES Rainbow Road is lame in Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe).
@Jason Kott It is...
...but only in Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe)
MK8 Star/Lightning Cup are near damn perfect.
Same with the Bell Cup. In fact, that's the greatest cup in the series
Agree entirely with your #1 pick. I love Mario Kart 7 and it had so many great courses
Love how my 2nd favorite track ever is the thing that pulls the crossing cup down
Where?
What?
it made me pissed when he said ww helled back that cup. ww is amazing imo
Wild Woods is literally my favorite track in 8 and one of my favorites in the whole series
I agree
Kudos on putting all the Double Dash cups in the top 25. That was easily my favorite Mario Kart game.
DD has most of the memorable tracks except Sherbet Land which sucks
Am I the only one who finds some of the simpler tracks fun and the gameplay can be really fun and exciting?
I wonder how the DLC Cups will fit into this when they all come out
I think he’ll give it his own separate list
I really like MK8's star cup. Sunshine Airport, Mount Wario, and Electodrome (my favourite nitro track in MK8) are all top 30 for me.
electrodrome is my favourite MK track of all time
21:36 I saw DK's Snowboard cross, Melody motorway, Alpine pass and I realised that that was the UK version (It's DK Summit, Rock Rock Mountain, Music park!)
Music park is Melody motorway
Hold on, Jamie said "Just across the pond" as a reference to the US, you should have caught that.
Alpine Pass is a way cooler name than Rock Rock Mountain
Solid list. I really appreciate the effort that went into this.
30:39 i think seven will take the number 1 spot. I knew it because I have seen the best 145 an best 71 tracks like ten times
MK7s retro cups are the best in the series. Luigis mansion? Coconut mall? Maple treeway? Daisy cruiser! Yes please!
Anyone else get Rick rolled by an ad at the start of the video? But anyways Mario kart 8 deluxe is the best Nintendo game ever.
10:11 ''The star of the show is Cheese Land.''
*Gets a Star from the item box*
I see what you did there.
*“Merao Kart”*
despite mk7 having the worst roster ever, it does have some bangers of tracks. Somehow their retro tracks aren't as boring
You should rank every track/cup in the booster course pass once it's finished
Mario kart 9 Ultimate Cup:
Intro track: Mk8 Cloudtop cruise
Second track: Ds Tick Tock clock
Third track: Gba Ribbon Road
Fourth track : Wii Coconut mall
Middle track: Gcn Baby Park
Sixth track: Mk8 Big Blue
Seventh track: Mk7 Music park
Eight track: Ds Waluigi Pinball
Ninth: Wii Grumble volcano
Final track: Mk7 Rainbow road
Nearly a perfect lineup 👌
In my opinion the lightning cup has never failed in any game it's been in. Always has great retro picks
DS' lightning cup was a little weak compared to most cause of the selection but yeah I agree, the lightning cups are always fun and memorable.
I never understood the love for that music track
Hello just watching this before an essay is due tomorrow lol 😂Just one thing. If you had to rank the cups by tiers SS to F, where would each cup stack up against each other 😊
It’s pretty interesting to see that the Star Cup’s are considered by most people as the best or close cup in each game, definitely saw that the best was in Star Cup in the latter half in the series.
And just so you know, yeah I’m all for Wii’s Star Cup
Fun Fact: Of the 16 retro tracks that has made it into the Lighting Cup since it returned as the final Retro Cup in the Retro Grain Prix:
9 were from Various Star Cups
5 were from Various Special Cups
1 was from the GBA Lightning Cup*
& 1 was from the SNES Flower Cup.
*Lightning Cup made it's debut as a Nitro Cup in the Nitro Grand Prix in Super Circuit, before returning as the final Retro Cup in the Retro Grain Prix; this is the only time a cup has switched from 1 type of Grand Prix to another.
It’s cause they aren’t stuck with bowers castle and rainbow road so they get 4 original ideas and they don’t require easy tracks like the mushroom and Star cups
@@mikeywebb9598 I guess that makes sense, though Bowser Castle’s and Rainbow Road’s are usually pretty good
@@The_Holy_Wooomy they are, but thats 2 courses with predetermined themes
Mario Kart Cups Time Stamps
Mushroom Cups
4:15 Super Mario Kart
10:19 Mario Kart 64
2:22 Mario Kart Super Circuit
24:13 Mario Kart Double Dash
8:02 Mario Kart DS and 3DS
13:11 Mario Kart Wii
13:42 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Flower cup
1:29 Super Mario Kart
5:56 Mario Kart 64
9:52 Mario Kart Super Circuit
19:06 Mario Kart Double Dash
14:23 Mario Kart DS
21:10 Mario Kart Wii
26:16 Mario Kart 3DS
16:05 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Star Cup
3:37 Super Mario Kart
10:54 Mario Kart 64
11:16 Mario Kart Super Circuit
11:37 Mario Kart Double Dash
20:37 Mario Kart DS
19:59 Mario Kart Wii
33:47 Mario Kart 3DS
29:16 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Special Cup
9:07 Super Mario Kart
18:12 Mario Kart 64
6:33 Mario Kart Super Circuit
25:31 Mario Kart Double Dash
29:58 Mario Kart DS
27:46 Mario Kart Wii
30:44 Mario Kart 3DS
24:50 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Shell Cup
2:56 Mario Kart DS
5:21 Mario Kart Wii
12:16 Mario Kart 3DS
17:05 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Banana Cup
4:44 Mario Kart DS
14:45 Mario Kart Wii
27:12 Mario Kart 3DS
22:18 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Leaf Cup
7:11 Mario Kart DS
12:48 Mario Kart Wii
15:24 Mario Kart 3DS
28:27 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
Lightning Cup
11:48 Mario Kart Super Circuit
19:33 Mario Kart DS
16:34 Mario Kart Wii
31:36 Mario Kart 3DS
32:59 Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
(Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Egg Cup
22:52
(Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Crossing Cup
23:35
(Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Triforce Cup
21:41
(Mario Kart 8/Deluxe) Bell Cup
32:10
Crossing cup is 23:35 not 22:35
Great video! It's nice to see how the average of every cup's tracks delivers a completely new result. I'd never expect to see Mario Kart 7's Star Cup on the first place. It was a quite enjoyable cup and I like how you ranked Wario's Galleon 10th overall, but I guess I would never choose this cup to be one of my favorites without mathematical arguments. :D
Would be interesting to know if your feeling about this ranking matches with the maths or were you surprised yourself?
I think you've never shelled someone off the edge of the ramp in Wario Stadium N64. There's nothing more euphoric than getting first because you timed that green shell perfectly to ruin someone's day
Open video
"Merry-o Kart"
Close video
IT'S CALLED A F***ING ACCENT DIMSH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're gonna need to do an update video taking into account the *twelve* new cups and *48* additional retro courses.
Personally mine would probs have to be special cup wii (I am not biased to wii I just think the physics engine makes the tracks so much more fun, especially Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road, my favourite renditions of their respective names)
I agree that is such an amazing cup
I just realised that if you dont know who princess Daisy is you would think the mario kart 7 track was about the flowers
That moment when Super Bell Subway is my favorite mario kart course of all time and it’s the reason Bell cup isn’t in 1st place 😔
I feel you
I'm so glad we got waluigi pinball as a mk8 dlc remake, the new version is one of my favorite tracks of all time! (along with neo bowser city - maybe my #1 of all, koopa cape, mushroom gorge, wii's rainbow road, music park, and big blue)
14:40 Waluigi Pinball is a good track, but it could’ve done more with the whole pinball idea.
It's the most overrated track in history imo but it's still great
It's a goated track, maybe we need a Waluigi Pinball 2
I love the track but its not number 1... I think people bumm Waluigi more than they realise
I literally read the title, opened the video, thought of what my favorite cup is (mk7 star cup) skipped to the end and he got it right!! you have good taste man
my favorite cup is the flower cup from the ds wich include: desert hills, delfino square, waluigi pinballmachine and mushroom ridge.
Shroom ridge is definitley underrated !
I watch these videos because I love your commentary. It's great!
I Was really wating for a ranking of all the cups, I love this video!
Wario's shipyard being tenth best track ever is definitely one of the weirdest takes I've seen
But it is though.
This concept was pretty interesting to watch seeing how another individual’s track values stack up. The “math” though, is obviously going to weigh on preference almost entirely, so this video is more of a “for fun” averaging exercise than a concrete list that would need a few more factors considered, (such as how the course position is relayed in each cup or how the collection of courses work together to provide a good mix of gameplay diversity as examples) but what mattered most was that the video and commentary were still entertaining.
I would have to say my personal favorite cup in the entire Mario Kart series is the All Cup Tour from Mario Kart Double Dash!!. Is it fair to even include it? Nah, but it IS a grand prix cup, and I have a soft spot for this one off inclusion. The fun already begins when choosing your favorite character and kart combo you’ve discovered to stick with to the end of the ultimate race. I love how it starts with Luigi’s Circuit and it always ends on Rainbow Road, which are personally two of my high picks in the series. Every course in between is unpredictably randomized, and it’s just fun counting down the stages, guessing which track the game could throw at you next, and tally your points into the hundreds. It’s honestly pretty fun when my own less experienced or more difficult tracks get queued, like Sherbet Land or Wario’s Colosseum as my own examples. You know they’ll show up every time, but when they do, it just fills me up with an exciting “Aww sh*t. Here we go again…” energy to try and handle the situation. It actually turned some of my once least preferred to play courses into my top favorites, like Dino Dino Jungle, Rainbow Road and -I don’t even know how it won me over- Wario Colosseum.
It’s not perfect though. Playing the tour on 50cc or even 100cc makes each race take a much longer time that it needs, with minimal actual challenge from your competition. Getting two similar themed stages in a row can be a little disappointing too. And to be honest, I usually just slap either Petey Piranha or King Boo as a default character on the team for the added item pool diversity for dealing with sixteen consecutive races, but I wouldn’t lie in saying that if I could only choose one prix cup to ever play again (as in, the way how it is intended), either 150cc or Mirror All Cup Tour has just gotta be the only answer from me. It has to be my most replayed cup in the entire series purely for a fun time. - Noah
Star Cup from MK8 is my personal favorite. Four straight bangers, that’s hard to top.
But where do they all rank in your opinion?
@@keres9580
1. Cloudtop Cruise
2. Electrodome
3. Sunshine Airport
4. Dolphin Shoals
But all are 10/10
@@brody10123 do you mean Mount Wario at 1 because cloudtop cruise is in the special cup
@@keres9580 Yes I do whoops
Wow! Did not expect a Mario Kart 7 cup to be number one! I'm pretty happy though since I feel as Mario Kart 7 is pretty underated.
Yes, Mk7 is my favorite. That cup has all 4 of my favorite tracks. The banana cup is my second favorite
9:20 Luigi, you will be missed
Yeah i clocked that! 🤣 Classic cpu
MKWii’s Flower Cup is so amazing. You praised Waluigi Stadium for utilizing the trick mechanic to make it fun, yet you don’t give the same praise to DK Summit. And for some reason, you think Wario’s Gold Mine is slightly above average (105/216), even though it has so much personality and atmosphere.
Fun fact: neo bowser city in the german version its called coopas big city fever
I always find it funny when people call a Mario Kart game's original tracks "Nitro tracks", considering Nitro was the Nintendo DS's codename.
Ds, Wii, and 7 are the best games in my opinion, and it seems they all hold up to and surpass modern Mario Kart track standards.
Not sure if you still use this channel but I’m curious, how do you feel about the Snow Land remake for MK8?
Why is Double Dash's Star Cup so low? It has some of the best tracks in the game imo.
Sherbet Land isn’t fun to play on
GCN Dry Dry Desert blew the original out of the water
how?
by adding Water
literally best thing i ever heard
Best Cup from every Mario Kart (Because Video Too long didn't watch.)
Super Mario Kart: Special Cup
Mario Kart 64: Special Cup
Mario Kart Super Circuit: Lightning Cup
Mario Kart Double Dash: Special Cup
Mario Kart DS: Special Cup
Mario Kart Wii: Special Cup
Mario Kart 7: Star Cup
Mario Kart 8: Lightning Cup
(In My Opinion.) The Best Cup is the Wii U / Switch Lightning Cup.
DS Tick-Tock Clock (3)
3DS Piranha Plant Slide (7)
Wii Grumble Volcano (8)
N64 Rainbow Road (1)
(3+7+8+1)/4 = 4.75
TTC and N64 RR kinda suck lmao
As a mathematics student, I'm very disappointed that you just took the arithmetic mean of the individual rankings when you said “with Math!” in the title.
There are more kinds of averages. For example, the harmonic mean would've given more representative results, as better tracks count more towards the average.
An example: say if you had a cup with numbers 2, 3, 4, and 150. And another one with 18, 26, 40 and 72.
According to your calculations, the second one would receive a higher rating, even though three of the four best tracks are in the first one. The harmonic mean accounts for that.
With the harmonic mean, you'd calculate the reciprocal of the sum of reciprocals (times the number of things). This approach makes much more sense for rankings, since towards the bottom of the list, the differences between courses aren't very big. (200 vs. 210 and 1 vs. 11 are quite different, though the amount of rankings in-between is equal)
The geometric mean is also suitable for this purpose, by the way.
So yeah. Thanks for reading.
i learn something new every day! you need more likes
also, i wonder how would the ranks change using harmonic means instead of arithmetic means
@@Melecie Good idea, I'll make a spreadsheet and post the results here.
@@Melecie Here you go.
I noticed that the harmonic mean is too sensitive. For the harmonic mean top 5, one of the tracks was always in the global top 5, the other tracks in the cup effectively didn't count. So I chose to sort by the geometric mean instead; multiplying all rank values together and taking the [number-of-tracks-in-cup]th square root of the result. And to be honest, it gives surprisingly good results.
_A quick aside: Mario Kart Tour also uses something close to the geometric mean to determine the winning team in multiplayer races._
*legend:*
arithmetic mean (original) - *geometric mean* - harmonic mean - Cup
sorted by geometric mean
3 - 1 - 1 - Bell Cup (Mario Kart 8)
5 - 2 - 2 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 7)
1 - 3 - 10 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 7)
2 - 4 - 6 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart 8)
4 - 5 - 7 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart 7)
10 - 6 - 3 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart 7)
8 - 7 - 5 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart 8)
20 - 8 - 9 - Star Cup (Mario Kart DS)
11 - 9 - 8 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 7)
7 - 10 - 12 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 8)
6 - 11 - 18 - Special Cup (Mario Kart DS)
9 - 12 - 20 - Special Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
13 - 13 - 13 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 8)
30 - 14 - 4 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart DS)
12 - 15 - 19 - Special Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash)
19 - 16 - 11 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
18 - 17 - 16 - Triforce Cup (Mario Kart 8)
14 - 18 - 14 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash)
17 - 19 - 17 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart 8)
15 - 20 - 15 - Crossing Cup (Mario Kart 8)
21 - 21 - 21 - Star Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
16 - 22 - 23 - Egg Cup (Mario Kart 8)
27 - 23 - 25 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
29 - 24 - 22 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart 7)
22 - 25 - 27 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart DS)
30 - 26 - 24 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
24 - 27 - 29 - Special Cup (Mario Kart 64)
32 - 28 - 26 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 8)
23 - 29 - 30 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash)
26 - 30 - 33 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart 8)
28 - 31 - 31 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 8)
25 - 32 - 36 - Star Cup (Mario Kart: Double Dash)
37 - 33 - 28 - Star Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit)
35 - 34 - 32 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart 7)
34 - 35 - 34 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
33 - 36 - 37 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
36 - 37 - 35 - Lightning Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit)
38 - 38 - 40 - Star Cup (Mario Kart 64)
42 - 39 - 39 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart DS)
41 - 40 - 38 - Special Cup (Super Mario Kart)
39 - 41 - 41 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 64)
42 - 42 - 42 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart 7)
40 - 43 - 43 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit)
44 - 44 - 44 - Leaf Cup (Mario Kart DS)
45 - 45 - 45 - Special Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit)
46 - 46 - 46 - Flower Cup (Mario Kart 64)
47 - 47 - 47 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart Wii)
48 - 48 - 48 - Banana Cup (Mario Kart DS)
49 - 49 - 49 - Mushroom Cup (Super Mario Kart)
50 - 50 - 50 - Star Cup (Super Mario Kart)
51 - 51 - 51 - Shell Cup (Mario Kart DS)
52 - 52 - 52 - Mushroom Cup (Mario Kart: Super Circuit)
53 - 53 - 53 - Flower Cup (Super Mario Kart)
I hope Jamie sees this … 😅 Anyway, thanks for your request.
By the top 5 spot, I'd think 7 would take the cake. Love 7 a lot!
(8) Royal Raceway should be WAY Lower. They removed PEACH's CASTLE!
Rank 211. Also the outside area i ugly due to darkness, not a good vibe.
I'll do Top 37 cups (not including retro) with your system. For DLC, I'll judge them from the NITRO tracks, so the Retro won't include.
#37. Flower Cup [118.4] - Super Mario Kart
Choco Island 1 [76]
Ghost Valley 2 [145]
Donut Plains 2 [93]
Bowser Castle 2 [138]
Mario Circuit 3 [140]
#36. Mushroom Cup [117.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Peach Circuit [137]
Shy Guy Beach [91]
Riverside Park [110]
Bowser Castle 1 [131]
#35. Star Cup [111.8] - Super Mario Kart
Koopa Beach 1 [69]
Choco Island 2 [139]
Vanilla Lake 1 [102]
Bowser Castle 3 [122]
Mario Circuit 4 [127]
#34. Mushroom Cup [108.2] - Super Mario Kart
Mario Circuit 1 [135]
Donut Plains 1 [134]
Ghost Valley 1 [82]
Bowser Castle 1 [103]
Mario Circuit 2 [87]
#33. Mushroom Cup [106.75] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Luigi Circuit [106]
Peach Beach [97]
Baby Park [111]
Dry Dry Desert [113]
#32. Special Cup [103] - Super Mario Kart
Donut Plains 3 [141]
Koopa Beach 2 [95]
Ghost Valley 3 [94]
Vanilla Lake 2 [132]
Rainbow Road [53]
#31. Flower Cup [98] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Mario Circuit [123]
Boo Lake [117]
Cheese Land [49]
Bowser Castle 2 [103]
#30. Special Cup [97] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Lakeside Park [107]
Broken Pier [112]
Bowser Castle 4 [96]
Rainbow Road [73]
#29. Mushroom Cup [94] - Mario Kart 7
Toad Circuit [126]
Daisy Hills [85]
Cheep Cheep Lagoon [121]
Shy Guy Bazaar [46]
#28. Star Cup [93.25] - Mario Kart 64
Wario Stadium [92]
Sherbet Land [144]
Royal Raceway [116]
Bowser's Castle [21]
#27. Mushroom Cup [89.95] - Mario Kart DS
Figure-8 Circuit [133]
Yoshi Falls [118]
Cheep Cheep Beach [90]
Luigi's Mansion [18]
#26. Mushroom Cup [88.25] - Mario Kart 64
Luigi Raceway [130]
Moo Moo Farm [88]
Koopa Troopa Beach [80]
Kalimari Desert [55]
#25. Flower Cup [85.5] - Mario Kart 64
Toad's Turnpike [65]
Frappe Snowland [114]
Choco Mountain [38]
Mario Raceway [125]
#24. Star Cup [80.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Snow Land [143]
Ribbon Road [39]
Yoshi Desert [79]
Bowser Castle 3 [62]
#23. Mushroom Cup [75.5] - Mario Kart 8
Mario Kart Stadium [75]
Water Park [120]
Sweet Sweet Canyon [83]
Thwomp Ruins [24]
#22. Egg Cup [74] - Mario Kart 8
Excitebike Arena [142]
Dragon Driftway [28]
Mute City [52]
#21. Mushroom Cup [72] - Mario Kart Wii
Luigi Circuit [129]
Moo Moo Meadows [74]
Mushroom Gorge [37]
Toad's Factory [48]
#20. Triforce Cup [71.5] - Mario Kart 8
Ice Ice Outpost [128]
Hyrule Circuit [15]
#19. Special Cup [70.5] - Mario Kart 64
DK's Jungle Parkway [105]
Yoshi Valley [66]
Banshee Boardwalk [12]
Rainbow Road [99]
#18. Flower Cup [69] - Mario Kart 8
Mario Circuit [124]
Toad Harbour [25]
Twisted Mansion [101]
Shy Guy Falls [26]
#17. Special Cup [66.25] - Mario Kart 7
DK Jungle [72]
Rosalina's Ice World [119]
Bowser's Castle [71]
Rainbow Road [3]
#16. Special Cup [63.25] - Mario Kart 8
Cloudtop Cruise [10]
Bone-Dry Dunes [108]
Bowser's Castle [35]
Rainbow Road [100]
#14. Flower Cup [58.5] (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!) & Special Cup [58.5] (Mario Kart DS
Flower Cup:
Mushroom Bridge [68]
Mario Circuit [78]
Daisy Cruiser [41]
Waluigi Stadium [47]
Special Cup:
Wario Stadium [59]
Peach Gardens [70]
Bowser Castle [54]
Rainbow Road [51]
#13. Star Cup [57] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Sherbet Land [67]
Mushroom City [19]
Yoshi Circuit [86]
DK Mountain [56]
#12. Lightning Cup [55.25] - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Luigi Circuit [63]
Sky Garden [13]
Cheep-Cheep Island [136]
Sunset Wilds [9]
#11. Flower Cup [53] - Mario Kart Wii
Mario Circuit [98]
Coconut Mall [5]
DK Summit [32]
Wario's Gold Mine [77]
#10. Flower Cup [52.5] - Mario Kart DS
Desert Hills [115]
Delfino Square [33]
Waluigi Pinball [20]
Shroom Ridge [42]
#9. Star Cup [51.25] - Mario Kart DS
DK Pass [109]
Tick-Tock Clock [30]
Mario Circuit [64]
Airship Fortress [2]
#8. Star Cup [45.75] - Mario Kart Wii
Daisy Circuit [84]
Koopa Cape [61]
Maple Treeway [7]
Grumble Volcano [31]
#6. Crossing Cup [43] (Mario Kart 8) & Special Cup [43] (Mario Kart Wii)
Crossing Cup:
Wild Woods [29]
Animal Crossing [57]
Special Cup:
Dry Dry Ruins [89]
Moonview Highway [44]
Bowser's Castle [22]
Rainbow Road [17]
#5. Bell Cup [42.5] - Mario Kart 8
Super Bell Subway [81]
Big Blue [4]
#4. Flower Cup [40] - Mario Kart 7
Wuhu Loop [60]
Mario Circuit [50]
Music Park [27]
Rock Rock Mountain [23]
#3. Special Cup [27.5] - Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Wario Colosseum [43]
Dino Dino Jungle [40]
Bowser's Castle [16]
Rainbow Road [11]
#2. Star Cup [25.75] - Mario Kart 8
Sunshine Airport [36]
Dolphin Shoals [45]
Electrodrome [8]
Mount Wario [14]
#1. Star Cup [24.75] - Mario Kart 7
Piranha Plant Slide [34]
Wario's Shipyard [6]
Neo Bowser City [58]
Maka Wuhu [1]
I think dlc cups not having retro tracks kinda give them an unfair advantage
GCN RR should be higher btw
*_Okay, thank you for this, but now rank all tracks and cups from mkwii's CTGP._*
Mario Kart Wii's special cup is easily my favorite cup ever. It's the only cup with 4 tracks I love
tpask162 exactly should be easy #1 he completly snubbed moon view highway
BustyBagel shut up Mario Kmart Wii fanboys
Lol what about MK8’s Star Cup
@@lordroy88 I can't remember the tracks for that one. I don't play MK8 enough
Lord Iggy 88 Mario kart wii has the best tracks and it’s really not that close ion know why you call us fanboys for having a correct opinion
If they swapped Waluigi Pinball and DS Mario Circuit I guarantee you DS star cup would have taken the #1 slot
If waloogi pinball swapped with DS MC it would’ve tied 3DS Special cup at #5
Are you telling me that a cup from mk wii isnt in top 1? 😂😂😂
Shut up stupid Mario Kart Wii fanboy
@@lordroy88 no u stfu u 5 year old that has a mario character picture lmao
@@AngryJohnArbuckle your sandwich recipe is fucking trash
It's like you're pulling these straight out of my head
Whaaaaat Wario colloseum is one of the best tracks there is. En it annoys me you mispronounce Mario lol
IT"S CALLED A FREAKING ACCENT DIMSH!T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamie: *Explaining why the Wii Star Cup Tracks are a little lower than most people think* “Come on, there are so many great tracks, some had to sit a little low.”
Also Jamie: *Ranks SNES Rainbow Road at 45 and DK’s Jungle Parkway 3 spots higher than Koopa Cape*
He also placed Daisy Hills higher than Koopa Cape. Yeah l feel like he’s mk7 biased for some reason
@@Rafi-ui3tg daisy hill is great
@@michaelsheville6060 Daisy Hills sucks. It's in 198 on my top 216
@@Rafi-ui3tg ill put it on 29 is really good
@@michaelsheville6060 it's bad imo
As a person who grew up with MK7, it makes my heart happy to see it do so well.
Delfino square... 110?
Huh?
Mario kart DS has the Worst retro tracks imo.
Mk7 ruined all Wii tracks
Mk8 had great tracks but I hated the gameplay and PHYSICS
Mkw is the best mk imo because of the great tracks (only 2 tracks I dont like) the best gameplay gameplay and it's super fun messing with the PHYSICS and mkw had the best shortcuts in any Mario kart game, plus addicting online play.
Mk7 was just meh
I really hope Nintendo eventually gives us a Mario Kart Ultimate. All Tracks, all characters, all game modes, and then some.
Also funky mode
how you don’t have 500k+ subs is beyond me. your content is original, the quality of it is supreme, you come across as a nice guy, all whilst getting some puns in your videos and being extremely professional. keep up the good work man!!
This comment made my day. Thanks!
jamiethepayne commenting at 8am on a Sunday? I rate the work ethic😂
It was extremely professional. I thought he would have several hundred thousand subs at least. I hadn't paid any attention to it until I saw this comment bc I just assumed that content this well made came only from people with many more subs, I am glad to see I was wrong.
He deserves at least 100k, he has great videos but doesn't get the attention he deserves
@@notyepper Agreed.
I absolutely despised Wario Shipyard, but seeing it in the #1 cup was a surprise
N64 Bowser’s Castle should be waaaaaaaayyy higher
BRO PUT DELFINO SQUARE AT A 110 OVERALL??!??!?!?!?!!? WTF
Super Mario Kart :
4. Flower Cup
3. Star Cup
2. Mushroom Cup
1. Special Cup
Mario Kart 64 :
4. Flower Cup
3. Mushroom Cup
2. Star Cup
1. Special Cup
Mario Kart Super Circuit :
10. Extra Star Cup
09. Extra Flower Cup
08. Mushroom Cup
07. Extra Lightning Cup
06. Extra Mushroom Cup
05. Special Cup
04. Flower Cup
03. Extra Special Cup
02. Star Cup
01. Lightning Cup
Mario Kart Double Dash :
5. Marathon Cup
4. Star Cup
3. Flower Cup
2. Mushroom Cup
1. Special Cup
Mario Kart DS :
8. Shell Cup
7. Banana Cup
6. Leaf Cup
5. Mushroom Cup
4. Flower Cup
3. Lightning Cup
2. Star Cup
1. Special Cup
Mario Kart Wii :
8. Shell Cup
7. Leaf Cup
6. Mushroom Cup
5. Banana Cup
4. Lightning Cup
3. Star Cup
2. Flower Cup
1. Special Cup
Mario Kart 7 :
8. Mushroom Cup
7. Shell Cup
6. Leaf Cup
5. Flower Cup
4. Banana Cup
3. Special Cup
2. Lightning Cup
1. Star Cup
this guy needs a lot more subs than he has now
Star Cup was always my favorite in Mario Kart 7, glad to see it at #1
MK7 & 8 are some of my nostalgia-filled games, so this is good.
mk8 released in like, 2014 or something. are you a 5 year old?
Good pun with that MKDS Shell Cup right there!
The special cup on mario kart double dash will always be the best cup in Mario kart it has the best rainbow road the best bowsers castle and the best ever track in mario kart
I’ve learnt something, if a cup has piranha plant pipeway, it’s automatically good
Every time I watch a Mario kart ranking video on UA-cam I’m reminded that I’m probably the only person on the planet that just absolutely despises mk8’s twisted mansion. It’s my least favorite track in the game, and easily lands a spot in the bottom 20 tracks of all time for me.