Lauryn and Mark, I just found you both on UA-cam how nice to see you again. You are both very professional and accomplished shooters. I remember our days shooting at Coyote Valley Sporting Clays. I did a segment on MythBusters a few years back that involved shooting moving targets. The episode is called Fire in The Hole. Wishing you both all the best. Dave Radu
@@GoShooting Your videos along with implementation of the procedures you present and lots of practice on my part allowed me to achieve gold medal for my class in this year's provincial championships in Olympic trap discipline in Canada! Resounding thank you!
The best thing to do is get an adjustable comb fitted to your stock. Then you can adjust both up/down as well as left/right to get your point of impact spot on to where you want it. And for ATA trap target presentations where you are shooting at the target while it's still rising, a higher shooting gun gives you some built-in vertical lead so you don't have to cover the bird with the bead to break it.
Hello, I have a single barrel shotgun and it is shooting too low. Atleast 6 inches below the target. Only 4 to 5 pellets can be seen on target. Will this work on it. Please suggest.
Well not really. Add some rubber to the comb on the stock and give that a try. If not then find someone you don’t like and give them the gun for a Xmas present 😀
@@GoShooting lol. Have given it to the gunsmith for correction. Let's see otherwise it can be sold for 900 usd in India. It would be expensive for a diwali gift. Will exchange for other one.
Wouldnt doing this change the relationship between the mid bead and the end bead? So instead of stacking the beads in a figure 8 you Ned will have a slight gap between the two?
Absolutely it will. The figure 8 you refer to is just a description of a sight picture. All you really need to know is that the two beads are in line, the gap between the beads is a personal choice and remember when you are pulling the triggers the centre bead is irrelevant.
I have a question. When I mount the gun, my site picture is the standard figure 8. I have been shooting low, so I added about 3mm to my comb. I don't know if it is just me or my mount, but I am still shooting low and (I think) I must be moving my head to get that figure 8 pattern as I say pull. What should my site picture look like after the adjustment? Love the video's, you have helped me understand a lot more about trap shooting.
Gordon the answer for you lies on the pattern board. It wont lie to you. 3mm will only lift the shot pattern about 12%. Dont get caught up on seeing a figure 8. Plenty of champions see more (or less) than that configuration. The "figure 8" is mainly used to see if your eye is aligned down the barrel. It really serves no other fundamental purpose than that.
Hi Russell and Lauryn, a question if i may. By raising the point of where you break clays , does this also change the figure 8? great tutorials, cheers.
That's great for making minor adjustments, however I have a greater problem. Purchased a new semi auto. At 20 yds with 2 3/4 1 1/8 oz #8 IC choke, while holding straight down rib with bead just under target, the gun's center of pattern is about 6" low. I find this unacceptable in a $1,000+ plus new gun. What do you think?
It certainly isn’t good, but to be sure you probably need to bench rest it like a rifle. If it is actually that low at 20 yards I would be reading the warranty card
@@GoShooting yes, I did test it stabilized. And yes contacted US rep who sent me a shipping label. Was informed 2 days ago the gun was fixed and on it's way back. We'll see. But hey, thanks for your response, many video makers don't.
For a field shotgun is a 60/40 pattern more effective then 50/50? From shooting clays I prefer to have my target on the top of the bead literally and then fire? What is your own recommendation and experience from this?
If the gun mount in the shoulder is the same before as well as after the comb riser is added the actual points of impact will be the same. Only the sight picture will change when raising the comb.
Remember, a single-shot shotgun is not really much different from an over-under. If your barrel is on the top (top single or pump or semi auto) it is essentially the same as shooting the top barrel of an over-under. If your single barrel is an "unsingle" it is essentially the same as shooting the bottom barrel of an over-under.
I guess I just don’t understand how this makes any difference whatsoever except for quick, instinctive shooting. If you’re aiming down the rib like a rifle and ensure you’re seeing the same amount of rib as you’re used to, the shotgun is going to shoot in the same damn place every time. The hold might be slightly different, and yes, that will marginally affect the POI, but you’re not altering your POA. I suppose there isn’t a real answer to raising your shotgun’s impact. I might just try removing the bead altogether.
Not really, but it can make slight changes, technically the higher the stock the higher the point of impact. Pitch is altered to help with recoil, same with pads to a small degree.
Lauryn and Mark, I just found you both on UA-cam how nice to see you again. You are both very professional and accomplished shooters. I remember our days shooting at Coyote Valley Sporting Clays. I did a segment on MythBusters a few years back that involved shooting moving targets. The episode is called Fire in The Hole. Wishing you both all the best.
Dave Radu
Great content please continue making more videos love you both
More to come!
Brilliant! Concise and effective teaching.
Thank you kindly!
@@GoShooting Your videos along with implementation of the procedures you present and lots of practice on my part allowed me to achieve gold medal for my class in this year's provincial championships in Olympic trap discipline in Canada! Resounding thank you!
@@timeverett7828 ok you need to send us 50% of your prizemoney for that...:) Congrats. Well done
@@GoShooting I wish there was prize money 💰 offered but, in this case... Just the medal. Thanks.
That was cool and very interesting
Thanks Team. I’ll try this before I have a comb fitted!!
Cheers. Hope it works out
I’m learning so much from these videos.
Thank you.
Stay well and stay safe.
Ash 🏴
great to hear Ash
Very good point, never heard or new about that I could be able to see the target when shooting ! Thanks !!
great video, this helped me get my turkey gun hitting just where I needed it! Thanks
Great stuff - I have seen this done by others I shoot with and a great alternative to investing in an adjustable comb for budget conscious shooters.
Very valuable information. Thanks so much 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I enjoy and learn shooting from you
Thanks so much for this !! My Browning BT99 was throwing a 50/50 pattern. Now to apply as stated !!! Thanks
The best thing to do is get an adjustable comb fitted to your stock. Then you can adjust both up/down as well as left/right to get your point of impact spot on to where you want it. And for ATA trap target presentations where you are shooting at the target while it's still rising, a higher shooting gun gives you some built-in vertical lead so you don't have to cover the bird with the bead to break it.
@@timothybruggeman9332 Thanks so much this will make a big difference BIG TIME !!!!!!
Glad it helped!
Excellent. Model 31 with adjustable choke shoots real low. This should help.
I have never wished I lived outside the US before. But I wish I lived in Australia now. Then I could attend your school.
fantastic video, congratulations !!
Thank you! Cheers!
If we develop the clay weapon;will this affect the amount of bullets above and below?
Yes
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Brilliant thanks
Hello, I have a single barrel shotgun and it is shooting too low. Atleast 6 inches below the target. Only 4 to 5 pellets can be seen on target. Will this work on it. Please suggest.
Well not really. Add some rubber to the comb on the stock and give that a try. If not then find someone you don’t like and give them the gun for a Xmas present 😀
@@GoShooting lol. Have given it to the gunsmith for correction. Let's see otherwise it can be sold for 900 usd in India. It would be expensive for a diwali gift. Will exchange for other one.
Wouldnt doing this change the relationship between the mid bead and the end bead? So instead of stacking the beads in a figure 8 you Ned will have a slight gap between the two?
Absolutely it will. The figure 8 you refer to is just a description of a sight picture. All you really need to know is that the two beads are in line, the gap between the beads is a personal choice and remember when you are pulling the triggers the centre bead is irrelevant.
My upper barrel is shooting fine, but my bottom barrel is shooting 2.5 inches low at 40 yards. Any ideas?
Do you mean 2.5 inches lower than your bottom barrel? If so it’s within most manufacturers tolerances
I have a question. When I mount the gun, my site picture is the standard figure 8. I have been shooting low, so I added about 3mm to my comb. I don't know if it is just me or my mount, but I am still shooting low and (I think) I must be moving my head to get that figure 8 pattern as I say pull. What should my site picture look like after the adjustment?
Love the video's, you have helped me understand a lot more about trap shooting.
Gordon the answer for you lies on the pattern board. It wont lie to you. 3mm will only lift the shot pattern about 12%. Dont get caught up on seeing a figure 8. Plenty of champions see more (or less) than that configuration. The "figure 8" is mainly used to see if your eye is aligned down the barrel. It really serves no other fundamental purpose than that.
Good video. Is it recommended a pattern of 50/50 is more suitable for Sporting Clays?
I would think 60/40 would be slightly better
Where do I get the rubber?
Question on stocks, I'm limited with my POA & POI. Would you consider adding an adjustable comb if the has a adjustable LoP Graco stock?
If your Point of Impact is too low then you have little choice
@@GoShooting Thx Russel and Lauren. Im now shooting 60/40 and like it. Working on not covering up the target for consistency.
Where the video for lowering the impact great video keep them coming
We have done two. One on "drop" and the other is "add on ribs"
Hi Russell and Lauryn, a question if i may. By raising the point of where you break clays , does this also change the figure 8?
great tutorials, cheers.
Absolutely. The way we have explained in this video the "figure 8" will become larger.
That's great for making minor adjustments, however I have a greater problem.
Purchased a new semi auto. At 20 yds with 2 3/4 1 1/8 oz #8 IC choke, while holding straight down rib with bead just under target, the gun's center of pattern is about 6" low.
I find this unacceptable in a $1,000+ plus new gun.
What do you think?
It certainly isn’t good, but to be sure you probably need to bench rest it like a rifle. If it is actually that low at 20 yards I would be reading the warranty card
@@GoShooting yes, I did test it stabilized. And yes contacted US rep who sent me a shipping label. Was informed 2 days ago the gun was fixed and on it's way back. We'll see.
But hey, thanks for your response, many video makers don't.
I like lauren she is great she looks like she is going to burst out laughing 😍
Are you still figure eighting your beads or not ?
Not necessarily. Everyone sees this differently
For a field shotgun is a 60/40 pattern more effective then 50/50? From shooting clays I prefer to have my target on the top of the bead literally and then fire? What is your own recommendation and experience from this?
In my experience shoot the highest possible point of aim that you can. 60/40 is better than 50/50 in my opinion
where do you get those rubber pads?
We get them from a place called "Clark Rubber"
If the gun mount in the shoulder is the same before as well as after the comb riser is added the actual points of impact will be the same. Only the sight picture will change when raising the comb.
Could you please make a video for single shot shotgun?
Give us an example?
Remember, a single-shot shotgun is not really much different from an over-under. If your barrel is on the top (top single or pump or semi auto) it is essentially the same as shooting the top barrel of an over-under. If your single barrel is an "unsingle" it is essentially the same as shooting the bottom barrel of an over-under.
What is the number of the choke you shoot
We change chokes for different events Falah
Absolutely 👍👍 thanks for your efforts and reply.
I guess I just don’t understand how this makes any difference whatsoever except for quick, instinctive shooting. If you’re aiming down the rib like a rifle and ensure you’re seeing the same amount of rib as you’re used to, the shotgun is going to shoot in the same damn place every time. The hold might be slightly different, and yes, that will marginally affect the POI, but you’re not altering your POA.
I suppose there isn’t a real answer to raising your shotgun’s impact. I might just try removing the bead altogether.
Does the point of impact be changed by changing the pitch of shotgun by changing the recoil pads?
Not really, but it can make slight changes, technically the higher the stock the higher the point of impact. Pitch is altered to help with recoil, same with pads to a small degree.
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