I met him at a Porcupine Tree show in Houston, Tx. As he was walking from the stage to come outside, a guy jumps out before him and does the Wayne's World "I'm not worthy" routine, and Steven just walks around him. lol It was amazing. But I met him afterwards, asked him to sign a Cover Version CD, and he was very pleasant. Tired, obviously, but tired doesn't equate to prat as some people seem to interpret it. Steven is not a melancholic person despite the usual feel of his music, and I think that's common with anyone who is more introspective and makes "sad music". I met Danny Cavanagh after an Anathema show and he was sweet. I told him his music has been a lifesaver for me for 16 years and thanked him. I think that made his evening. The musicians we love are quite human, and I think we forget that sometimes. I know Steven certainly prefers to be approached like any other bloke rather than like a rock star.
That's a nice thing about him. And he saved my life SW I mean. For fourteen years I've been holding on to life largely or even mainly because of him. I came close to death a few times but I don't gamble with that anymore. He has been both an escape and a rock for me to hold onto. Literally saved me from drowning......he doesn't read comments so I'll still state this here anyway...my main trouble has been I'm afraid to love, among other things...he encourages by both empathizing and doing it in such a way as only music can do IMHO.. I don't think he would mind me saying this.
When he's talking about how people find new music, that's exactly how I found Steven's music. I was a huge Opeth fan and always saw Mike talking about Steven and how he produced some of their albums. Both are in my top 5 favourite artists of all time now.
I'd just like to say, I went to the signing at HMV in London and met Steven and he came across as a really nice guy. He seemed very enthusiastic about meeting everybody. It was great meeting him.
Someone tell Steven that beautiful, sophisticated, artistic role playing computer games have existed for decades! It's a shame games like Final Fantasy VI - IX have dated so much now, he might not be able to see past that... but those games are gorgeous, inspired and heart wrenching. Plus many others of course!
What a genuinely lovely and humble dude! It's so lovely to see an artist who has kept his feet on the ground, despite heading into a whirlwind with his new album. Our planet is beautiful and most people don't see or understand this. As humans, we can be very selfish in our approach to the planet and other animals. As an Earth Scientist, it breaks my heart to see what's happening to our planet. It's nice to see an artist get his listeners to think about this... Also, it's nice to see an artist who isn't fame hungry... so many search the net looking for ego massaging! It's great to know that his music isn't affected by this... Keep at it Steven, I love your work and it inspires mine...thank you.
19:19 - lol @ the thinly veiled dig at Opeth's live show. They had some logo animations, abstract stuff, forests, waves and ripples on screen at the shows that I've seen.
The way he describes how listening to an album should be is exactly what I tell people, how it’s like watching a movie, all the way through, to fully appreciate the artist’s intention in how it should sound. I love this man so much
Just want to say, many of us really do buy multiple copies: LPs (all colors), CDs, DVDs Blurays, Deluxe editions, and some extras to turn other people on to the music. Gotta' support the artist when you discover a really exceptionally good one. ;) Have met him many times, and he is always very kind.
Steven I'm pretty sure you are not going to read this, but even so I wanted to thank you for all your work. You inspire my life in so many levels that sometimes I can not believe there is such high music level in these days Love from Bolivia
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Steven Wilson is completely independent of the good and the bad opinions of others. This is what makes him the true artist. :)
"shots of the sea or ripples in a pond" couldn't have phrased it better. I love Steven because he doesn't do pretentious shit, just pure talent and dedication.
Desde que conheci esse incrível ser a minha vida mudou, não só por toda obra musical que ele compôs, produziu, participou e etc., como pela humildade em falar de música, sempre a colocando como arte e mostrando da onde vem todas suas influências... Por tudo isso, pude conhecer milhões de artistas a partir das iniciativas do SW em colocar o que ele estava ouvindo na semana em seu site, ou agora fazer playlists no Spotify... Então, muito mais do que só a obra dele, sou grato pela possibilidade de conhecer tanto conteúdo no mundo da música a partir da forma que ele trata a música... Greetings from Brazil, Brazil is waiting for your show again !
Awesome interview, thanks for sharing! Loved to hear that our movies preferences also surprisingly match, i.e. the Leftovers with Max Richter soundtrack and Christopher Nolan's movies with Hans Zimmer's soundtrack.
I'm glad he doesn't read the comments.. I love what he's done, I don't think it's too pop... It's brilliant! However Steven's creativity expresses, it's still authentically Steven Wilson and it's a truly beautiful and brilliant album! Bad comments are better than no comment so haters just keep on giving this brilliant album plenty of press 😂
Videogames are my second love after music and watching Steven become aware that videogames have stepped out of the "entertainment" category and a lot of them are standing firmly in the "art" category is so amazing. Things like LDOJ, of course, but Hollow Knight, Darkest Dungeon, Supergiant games too! So many videogames are just so beautiful, sophisticated and well written.
Has anybody in USA received their preorder Deluxe Book "To the Bone" yet? I haven't received my copy yet. I avoided all the singles and haven't heard a note of To The Bone.
Just as additional information on the air thinness. At that altitude, even cars struggle to "breathe", they can barely produce combustion properly and so they struggle to just run.
Love that Steven said he doesn't choose guitarists based on skill alone...yet he's had Guthrie Govan and now he has Alex Hutchings! For guitar players, that is the cream of the crop!
Also cannot wait for the computer game Last Day of June? Not sure about it as I don't play role playing games usually. Omg last night I listened to the album and was blown away! Maybe IMHO the best he's ever done, besides Raven, Insurgentes, In Absentia and Fear of a Blank Planet. I saw who wrpte the music for The Leftovers also. Thanks to SW I had a most interesting evening. I'll be spinning the new CD all of the time that I can fit it in too! Oh I know he's taken but I really can't wait for the next video - maybe already released?
haven't heard of Craig Blundell. Checked some of his gigs with Steven & yes: there are not just 10 incredible drummers out there. Craigs an amazing drummer! Same with Jeremy, very different but also very good. Like his drumming on "There is a Dream" (Unidentified Flying Project) very much. BTW: thanks for sharing the full Q&A!
Very excited to see how The album tour with the live band goes. Hope your throat recovers soon. Love from India . Please Include India in your upcoming tour. Congratulations the amazing album success this week.
I think Lenny's point is, it would be nice to see him get on one of the late night shows. Since Colbert or Fallon are neck & neck, it makes complete sense that he would mention Colbert. Maybe you find his "bs agenda" (your words) offensive, but many of us enjoy his show.. Regardless, it's not our views that count, but what's best for Steven Wilson,. For the record, Steven Wilson might be on the same page as Steven Colbert's humor anyhow. What would you recommend? Britains Got Talent, X Factor, American Idol?
I am still curious about how Steven's point of view towards Spotify and the commercialization of music shifted. I don't believe he is greedy or anything, but how does he suddenly come to terms with having an album in the charts and playing in TV breakfast shows? A few years ago he smashed an iPod with a hammer in front of a camera. It's probably irrelevant, I still love him, still I'm curious.
But pop charts--there's a part of you that's always wanted to break into, no? :) The core of your work is eclectic. People who don't understand that, well, don't get it.
Harrison recommended Blunders as a replacement for Marco. I've never thought of him sounding like Harrison at all and in interviews he's even said he's not as good as Gavin. He played mainly dance stuff before all the Prog work kicked off. Then going back to PT I always thought Chris Maitland's parts were more suited. He was a more "musical" drummer than Gavin who seems more about technique.
"Is this thing we call truth really achievable?" Of course it is. How else would all the technology he's using to create his music with be discovered and developed and improved upon? What a disappointing statement of science denial. I read Steven Wilson say in an interview years ago that he admired Richard Dawkins. Allow me to quote Dawkins in relation to this: "The truth really is out there. It's not a matter of opinion. Relativism, the quaint notion that there are many truths all equally deserving of respect even if they contradict each other, is rife today. It sounds like a respectful gesture to multiculturalism, but actually it's a pretentious copout. There really is something special about scientific evidence. Science works. Planes fly, magic carpets and broomsticks don't. Gravity's not a version of the truth, it is the truth. Anybody who doubts it is invited to jump out a ten story window. Evolution too is reality. We don't decide whether to believe it or not believe on the basis of whim or culture. The evidence supports it. Evolution is the plain truth."
I think he's speaking of objectivity,as in politics or as in the media, or just as an individual. IMHO that's how I perceive. Subjectivity is really affected by objectivity to a degree but not always fully. Take for instance, to quote Zappa: GIVE ME YOUR DIRTY LOVE ... Etc
Christopher Burkill well Dawkins was a real purist on what truth can be then...i still think anything non scientific or non provable is subjective truth, not objective. However if people contradict themselves, then truth gets lost. Ok, so schizophrenia is sort of built from that, meaning split in two, in a total contradiction...conflict comes necessarily from two or more truths in that case...i mean gaslighting which is saying two things that contradict...i had never heard of that term until very recently...hmm now who did it first? And is it ever ok to do that? Because it can make someone feel as if they're crazy...which someone (no one in particular comes to mind...) in power can abuse someone with. More on this topic later...
He is the most beautiful human being.
Cute and super deep and intelligent!
Genius
Get off with him then.
He is a Scorpio lol that's why
I met him at a Porcupine Tree show in Houston, Tx. As he was walking from the stage to come outside, a guy jumps out before him and does the Wayne's World "I'm not worthy" routine, and Steven just walks around him. lol It was amazing. But I met him afterwards, asked him to sign a Cover Version CD, and he was very pleasant. Tired, obviously, but tired doesn't equate to prat as some people seem to interpret it. Steven is not a melancholic person despite the usual feel of his music, and I think that's common with anyone who is more introspective and makes "sad music". I met Danny Cavanagh after an Anathema show and he was sweet. I told him his music has been a lifesaver for me for 16 years and thanked him. I think that made his evening. The musicians we love are quite human, and I think we forget that sometimes. I know Steven certainly prefers to be approached like any other bloke rather than like a rock star.
That's a nice thing about him. And he saved my life SW I mean. For fourteen years I've been holding on to life largely or even mainly because of him. I came close to death a few times but I don't gamble with that anymore. He has been both an escape and a rock for me to hold onto. Literally saved me from drowning......he doesn't read comments so I'll still state this here anyway...my main trouble has been I'm afraid to love, among other things...he encourages by both empathizing and doing it in such a way as only music can do IMHO.. I don't think he would mind me saying this.
I never thought id say it but im glad one of my favourite artists is getting more mainstream attention. If anyone deserves it its steven wilson.
When he's talking about how people find new music, that's exactly how I found Steven's music. I was a huge Opeth fan and always saw Mike talking about Steven and how he produced some of their albums. Both are in my top 5 favourite artists of all time now.
It was the same for me,what are your other 3 favorite artists?
JoRdOguitarman1 I agree
I just started listening to TesseracT... Amazing band! Also, if you haven't heard, check out Pineapple Thief
Milica M it varies but right now it would be Tool, Mastodon and Megadeth.
Michael Lochlann Been a fan of Tesseract for a while now, Altered State is my favourite by them.
I could listen to this man for hours and never stop being amazed by his wisdom and clear view of the world. He's a mentor
I'd just like to say, I went to the signing at HMV in London and met Steven and he came across as a really nice guy. He seemed very enthusiastic about meeting everybody. It was great meeting him.
What a great coversationalist Steven Wilson is!!. What a clear perspective he has of life, music, people.....
Wow so he has a love interest awww beautiful name and -- he looks so happy!
Looks like he's off the market...
Mr Wilson is always a gentleman
No only 99% of the time ;)
Someone tell Steven that beautiful, sophisticated, artistic role playing computer games have existed for decades! It's a shame games like Final Fantasy VI - IX have dated so much now, he might not be able to see past that... but those games are gorgeous, inspired and heart wrenching. Plus many others of course!
I think he doesnt have that opinion anymore, he puts his music in a couple of videogames (most notorious last day of june) since this interview
What a genuinely lovely and humble dude! It's so lovely to see an artist who has kept his feet on the ground, despite heading into a whirlwind with his new album.
Our planet is beautiful and most people don't see or understand this. As humans, we can be very selfish in our approach to the planet and other animals. As an Earth Scientist, it breaks my heart to see what's happening to our planet. It's nice to see an artist get his listeners to think about this...
Also, it's nice to see an artist who isn't fame hungry... so many search the net looking for ego massaging! It's great to know that his music isn't affected by this...
Keep at it Steven, I love your work and it inspires mine...thank you.
19:19 - lol @ the thinly veiled dig at Opeth's live show. They had some logo animations, abstract stuff, forests, waves and ripples on screen at the shows that I've seen.
bonafide rockstar.. master musician.. pure quality...
The way he describes how listening to an album should be is exactly what I tell people, how it’s like watching a movie, all the way through, to fully appreciate the artist’s intention in how it should sound. I love this man so much
Just want to say, many of us really do buy multiple copies: LPs (all colors), CDs, DVDs Blurays, Deluxe editions, and some extras to turn other people on to the music. Gotta' support the artist when you discover a really exceptionally good one. ;)
Have met him many times, and he is always very kind.
Steven I'm pretty sure you are not going to read this, but even so I wanted to thank you for all your work. You inspire my life in so many levels that sometimes I can not believe there is such high music level in these days
Love from Bolivia
Steven Wilson is completely independent of the good and the bad opinions of others. This is what makes him the true artist. :)
"shots of the sea or ripples in a pond" couldn't have phrased it better. I love Steven because he doesn't do pretentious shit, just pure talent and dedication.
and he got 1st... im so happy for u steven :)
Well has anyone else here watched The Leftovers? I just finished it tonight -- it was heart rending at the end!!!!!
Steven is as genuine as he is inspiring. He is first class and every song he writes is a beautiful gift.
Steven Wilson seems like a very great guy.
Desde que conheci esse incrível ser a minha vida mudou,
não só por toda obra musical que ele compôs, produziu, participou e etc., como pela humildade em falar de música, sempre a colocando como arte e mostrando da onde vem todas suas influências...
Por tudo isso, pude conhecer milhões de artistas a partir das iniciativas do SW em colocar o que ele estava ouvindo na semana em seu site, ou agora fazer playlists no Spotify...
Então, muito mais do que só a obra dele, sou grato pela possibilidade de conhecer tanto conteúdo no mundo da música a partir da forma que ele trata a música...
Greetings from Brazil,
Brazil is waiting for your show again !
Awesome interview, thanks for sharing! Loved to hear that our movies preferences also surprisingly match, i.e. the Leftovers with Max Richter soundtrack and Christopher Nolan's movies with Hans Zimmer's soundtrack.
We're waiting for you in Chile Steven! Loved the new album!
Love this man
Hearing that last answer already knowing that he charted at #3 made me smile so hard. What a beautifully done interview and what a great guy.
Steven always picks excellent musicians--especially drummers. Looking forward to the tour (hoping I can go to concert)!
Bring back some porcupine tree hehe love the new album though truly magic!!
Genius. Totally inspiring human being/musician
Can't wait for "Last Day of June" to come out as a big video game fan and huge/long time steven wilson fan.
OK...I met Steven Wilson once and he was very cordial.
One of my current Top 3 Rock Musicians, together with Neal Morse and Warren Haynes!
I'm glad he doesn't read the comments.. I love what he's done, I don't think it's too pop... It's brilliant! However Steven's creativity expresses, it's still authentically Steven Wilson and it's a truly beautiful and brilliant album! Bad comments are better than no comment so haters just keep on giving this brilliant album plenty of press 😂
So cool to see that the interviewer knows tesseract! Steve's like, whoo?? Lol
My favorite music is made by a millionaire who's over twice my age
OfficerMarmalade He's a millionaire.
Is he really? I didn't want to over shoot it.
The edges get blunt
Can't wait for the next lot of shows. Albums great. Reminds me in places of Stupid Dream which is the album that got me into PT.
haha yeah. that whole sea and pond visuals....yeah thats Opeth...love them though
Hahaha "you know who you are". Hint hint Opeth
Steven Wilson sounds so old when he's talking about video games.
Videogames are my second love after music and watching Steven become aware that videogames have stepped out of the "entertainment" category and a lot of them are standing firmly in the "art" category is so amazing. Things like LDOJ, of course, but Hollow Knight, Darkest Dungeon, Supergiant games too! So many videogames are just so beautiful, sophisticated and well written.
Steven's music such a genius that I think he deserves the chance to score a film...with no less genius of a director...
I love your new album...I love it...Im mad about it. But it happens to me with all your music lol...
Excellent interview. Great to hear about what SW is up to. #international popstar 😂
Did I hear that Alex Hutchings will be in Steven Wilson's live band? That guy is a fucking force of nature!
Has anybody in USA received their preorder Deluxe Book "To the Bone" yet?
I haven't received my copy yet. I avoided all the singles and haven't heard a note of To The Bone.
Scott Robinson mine is due here in Florida tomorrow.. Idk if that helps. But you'll love the album I hope. 😆
Did the postman deliver you Steven Wilson set? What do you think of the album?
Scott Robinson I woke up with a migraine today so I have it but I haven't opened it yet.. I'll let you know tomorrow 😅
Just as additional information on the air thinness. At that altitude, even cars struggle to "breathe", they can barely produce combustion properly and so they struggle to just run.
19:55 probably Opeth, lol. From what I recall, one of their music videos was basically just scenic shots of a pond. and that was it.
Love that Steven said he doesn't choose guitarists based on skill alone...yet he's had Guthrie Govan and now he has Alex Hutchings! For guitar players, that is the cream of the crop!
Just watched Pilot of The Leftovers and it has me very emotional and curious.
Interviewer - So, are you gonna have a break
Steven - :D
Yes, I love how Permenating upset people too. I totally get Steve and how he can be a contrarian
Gigs are going to be great, Steven always has brilliant musicians and Alex Hutchings is no different, what a touch, what a player, great choice.
Also cannot wait for the computer game Last Day of June? Not sure about it as I don't play role playing games usually. Omg last night I listened to the album and was blown away! Maybe IMHO the best he's ever done, besides Raven, Insurgentes, In Absentia and Fear of a Blank Planet. I saw who wrpte the music for The Leftovers also. Thanks to SW I had a most interesting evening. I'll be spinning the new CD all of the time that I can fit it in too! Oh I know he's taken but I really can't wait for the next video - maybe already released?
haven't heard of Craig Blundell. Checked some of his gigs with Steven & yes: there are not just 10 incredible drummers out there. Craigs an amazing drummer! Same with Jeremy, very different but also very good. Like his drumming on "There is a Dream" (Unidentified Flying Project) very much. BTW: thanks for sharing the full Q&A!
check craig out with frost on milliontown remake
Woah! Alex Hutchings! Awesome :)
Say a new gig rig video on steven's new pedalboard!
You could shoot a live video on some Inca ruins in Ecuador, that would be amazing.
What are the reference points for 'Detonation', specifically the fusion section?
Dare I dream? Would love to see SW and Chris Nolan collaborating in a feature film. That would be an event of the century, from me❤️👍
I wanna ask Steven - why don't i have Digital Booklet of this album?
Nice Shirt!
By the way, what book about Pete Townsend did SW read? I want to read it...
Do an album Analogue only 👍🙏
What kind of equipment are they using I'm loving this video style.
Hi Steven
19:59 you know who you are! Who are you?
Steven is so punk rock.
NOT lol
Can someone tell me what's the name of the videogame they are talking about?
Last Day of June maybe?
he doesnt age
*searches for Alex Hutchings*
Oh shit, THAT guy!
..yeah, good choice Steven ;)
RayHaglandMusic What about Hutchings?
Extra Corny Sounds good. I'm glad he's got someone else on Guthrie's level. Dave is great but he isn't on that level imo.
Very excited to see how The album tour with the live band goes. Hope your throat recovers soon. Love from India . Please Include India in your upcoming tour. Congratulations the amazing album success this week.
Does the interviewer sit higher than his couch?
Is he talking about Opeth' shows???
25:00
Would love it if you'd Pop Up on Late Show with Stephen Colbert when in NYC.
Lenny Trinceri Colbert isn't going to promote good music. He's fine with pushing his bullshit agenda.
There's worse.
I think Lenny's point is, it would be nice to see him get on one of the late night shows. Since Colbert or Fallon are neck & neck, it makes complete sense that he would mention Colbert. Maybe you find his "bs agenda" (your words) offensive, but many of us enjoy his show.. Regardless, it's not our views that count, but what's best for Steven Wilson,. For the record, Steven Wilson might be on the same page as Steven Colbert's humor anyhow. What would you recommend? Britains Got Talent, X Factor, American Idol?
+Wayne Wofsey I think he would definitely do well on Colberts show, I'm a huge fan of both SC and SW.
Steven is a genious
What is the name of the game they were talking about ?
"Last Day of June"
Virtual Robots Revolt thanks !
I didn't catch if they said the name of the game, does anyone know what game it is?
Andi Hall it's called Last Day of June :)
ThirdEyeLu thank you 😆 if they said it I would have been lost trying to figure out where it was lol so I appreciate it!
Steven's a bit of a troll when it comes to choosing singles for his album's xD
I am still curious about how Steven's point of view towards Spotify and the commercialization of music shifted. I don't believe he is greedy or anything, but how does he suddenly come to terms with having an album in the charts and playing in TV breakfast shows? A few years ago he smashed an iPod with a hammer in front of a camera. It's probably irrelevant, I still love him, still I'm curious.
Shame it wasnt Alex Lifeson - I hear he is available :)
Graham Bell Alex Lifeson makes tons of mistakes live and doesn't play fast stuff very well.
pretty sweeping claim there gumbo
fredo gumbo Still a very good guitarist, though.
Christian Kalafut Alex Lifeson is not technically adept enough or precise enough to play the guitar solo on Regret #9. True or not?
Giorgio Rinaldi Yeah, he is. I love Rush. I love Alex Lifeson. But he is not the kind of guitarist Steven Wilson needs in his band.
Was that a Bad News reference at 22:18? :D
Fuck off Bad News!!
"No, you have to look mean.."
3:00 - so why release any single at all? Surely you have the power now to say no, the album will be released as a whole.
Can't wait to see Steven live in Manchester next year. Fabulous artist all round.
Does anybody hear the drummer mouse during the entire interview?jajaja (That "ti qui ti qui" sound)
brksedu
19:57 Am i wrong to assume he's talking about opeth? LMAO
Steven is beautiful 😂😂
😎
Fuuuuuck Alex Hutchings?!? I'm going!
I want his sweater!
M. Sándor it's terrible
Come to Argentina! We love you!
😻👌❤
Stranger Things has a bit of Twin Peaks? Now, leave that.. :'D
But pop charts--there's a part of you that's always wanted to break into, no? :) The core of your work is eclectic. People who don't understand that, well, don't get it.
I would love to see what Steven thinks of Silent Hill 2 if he played it. It's very mature, deep and psychological.
This world needs your DNA... please leave some behind.
Calling Blundell "close to Gavin" is like calling blood close to red. Without Harrison, Blundell wouldn't know what to play half the time.
Xam271 And the award for most pointless and wrong award for a post goes to you. Well done!
And the award for answering that post, thus showing interest in what I have to say, goes to you, good sir.
"Without Harrison, Blundell wouldn't know what to play half the time." What does that even mean?
It's another way of saying Blundell based his playing style on Harrison.
Harrison recommended Blunders as a replacement for Marco. I've never thought of him sounding like Harrison at all and in interviews he's even said he's not as good as Gavin. He played mainly dance stuff before all the Prog work kicked off. Then going back to PT I always thought Chris Maitland's parts were more suited. He was a more "musical" drummer than Gavin who seems more about technique.
"Is this thing we call truth really achievable?" Of course it is. How else would all the technology he's using to create his music with be discovered and developed and improved upon? What a disappointing statement of science denial.
I read Steven Wilson say in an interview years ago that he admired Richard Dawkins. Allow me to quote Dawkins in relation to this:
"The truth really is out there. It's not a matter of opinion. Relativism, the quaint notion that there are many truths all equally deserving of respect even if they contradict each other, is rife today. It sounds like a respectful gesture to multiculturalism, but actually it's a pretentious copout. There really is something special about scientific evidence. Science works. Planes fly, magic carpets and broomsticks don't. Gravity's not a version of the truth, it is the truth. Anybody who doubts it is invited to jump out a ten story window. Evolution too is reality. We don't decide whether to believe it or not believe on the basis of whim or culture. The evidence supports it. Evolution is the plain truth."
I think he's speaking of objectivity,as in politics or as in the media, or just as an individual. IMHO that's how I perceive. Subjectivity is really affected by objectivity to a degree but not always fully. Take for instance, to quote Zappa: GIVE ME YOUR DIRTY LOVE ... Etc
Christopher Burkill well Dawkins was a real purist on what truth can be then...i still think anything non scientific or non provable is subjective truth, not objective. However if people contradict themselves, then truth gets lost. Ok, so schizophrenia is sort of built from that, meaning split in two, in a total contradiction...conflict comes necessarily from two or more truths in that case...i mean gaslighting which is saying two things that contradict...i had never heard of that term until very recently...hmm now who did it first? And is it ever ok to do that? Because it can make someone feel as if they're crazy...which someone (no one in particular comes to mind...) in power can abuse someone with. More on this topic later...
Omg did i really write that?? (Above????) I think i gaslight mySELF sometimes!
Fire your color guy. It's so flat, dark, and dull.