Fun fact about Electric Soldier Porygon, the controversy and fallout of that episode caused the law in Japan to be changed that any films or anime with a lot of flashing lights need to be dimmed or reduced. If you’re an avid anime watcher you’ve probably noticed scenes during fights where the screen just becomes dimmer, well this is why
@@yeseniaadames4389 I heard the new one is pretty good, and it is good from what I've seen. But I'm with you on preferring the OG anime, even if it has a lot of flaws, and I also understand why - replacing a story that has gone on for 25 years, even if the new one is of high quality, is going to be a tough sell because the OG version is so ubiquitous and iconic that it's the first thing that comes to people's mind when someone says "Pokémon". If you ask me, I don't think Liko and Roy will EVER replace Ash, no matter how good their story is or how much The Pokémon Company tries to push them.
Damn over 600 kids ended up in the hospital when they watched the Porygon episode? That’s insane and I wonder why the animators didn’t remove the red light
@@rainbowdragon168 Eh, the number is actually overblown and most kids that went to the hospital only had a headache and/or nausea, the effect wasn't _that_ huge.
I get the "recall" for the Pokeball being a choking hazard, but like everything else... are you kidding me!!! The fact that there are other toys that are still around that could also be classified as a choking hazard that haven't been recalled? How about don't let your damn child put a BALL in their mouth.
Yeah if that happens then, frankly, it's the parent's fault for not keeping a closer eye on their kid or making sure potentially dangerous toys were kept out of reach
What made the loss at the Kalos League even more painful was that, during the subsequent Team Flare arc, they released the first look at the Sun and Moon anime series with the new artstyle and the more comedic tone and people were PISSED. I'm honestly surprised THAT wasn't included after the Kalos League bit. At any other time, that reveal would have generated some trepidation but, in the midst of all the League hype and during one of the best villain arcs of the anime's history, many felt like TPC were actively insulting them. In later years, some people have warmed to Sun and Moon (me included) but, at the time, the blowback was incredible.
At the time I was OK with ash losing the Kalo league only because it wasn't his home region. The battle was epic though. However, when the Team Flare arc happens it was ash leading the charge all the way. And Allan even when he realized he was a pawn in Lysandre's scheme it was Ash, ASH, who had to remind him that Allan could be redeemed. This was when I realized that the win should have gone to ash. As great as the battle was I cannot in good conscience re-watch the battle now because of the loss. If anything, it makes Ash's victory in Alola sweeter because in each episode Alola was made to be Ash's temporary home thanks to living with professor Kukui.
I was hoping this video would cover the controversies that were not already discussed into the ground. If you make a part two of this, please look for more original and lesser known controversies of which there are actually plenty.
I personally stand by the sinnoh league loss being worse then the kalos league loss because in kalos ash had 3 flying types which get hurt hard by a good rock or electric type noivern for as much as I love the pokemon as a whole was just awful meanwhile in sinnoh ash had a well balanced team and was using some of his older pokemon once again I swear Tobias was only there because the writers had to make ash lose somehow
I saw this fan art of a fake screenshot of Porygon appearing in Horizons. Would there be any actual controversy if Porygon actually reappeared in the anime?
you can't blame them with the sheer amount of hype they created and then failing to deliver, that's was the XY/Z saga's biggest flaw, too much hype and no payout.
@@dethtroy2185 I get it and the hype backlash was somewhat deserved for the baiting titles however people were acting as if XY and XYZ were the worst seasons in the franchise’s history and while I didn’t like that Ash lost again but I understood why Alain was actually like Paul built up to be one his most powerful rivals he’s ever went up against and it wasn’t a bullshit lost freakin Tobias or Cameron aka Mr. I brought 5 Pokémon to a league battle and still won
@@dayvonlouis5187 it was more than just the title though, think about Ash-Greninja using what looked like a Destructo Disk in the preview that amounted to nothing either. I'm not gonna disagree that his loss to Alain in general wasn't that bad (compared to Tobias and Cameron) but still it was just the overhyping of the situation which is why people got as angry as they did, and it does feel justified. You and I might not get as mad as other people, but you can't stop them from getting angry.
@@dethtroy2185 I know I can’t people can’t help but feel how they do but to condemn the entire series is just something I found to be nonsensical as if that one loss invalidated the entire XY series they mostly even ignored the actual climax of the story and if I remember correctly my UA-cam video feed was filled with nothing but ranting videos about it and nothing else I even had to think man I get that you’re mad but to be THAT mad was unexpected
Nah XY anime was written terribly and can barely be considered a pokemon series, it's genuinely disrespectful. If Ash won, that might have been the final nail in the coffin. Meanwhile BW was overall the perfect continuation that took the story into consideration and followed through very well, despite its mishandling of TR for most of BW.
I know this is a VERY hot take but i really dont want all the pokemon in a single game. I feel like it fits a region to not have every pokemon. Like you wouldnt be able to find a mountain lion in africa or Asia so why should you find every pokemon every region. I think it also makes it more special to see something you Haven’t seen in a while. Like seeing an old friend.
Because u can get on a plane and see any animal. It needs to be accessible in game. Nobody needs to be punished and cant get their fav pokemon because of where they live. HORRIBLE TAKE
@@darronwilliams4641 The 4 first gens have full access to Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl, You can bring Alolan forms into Kanto of the Kanto Pokémon + use their Mega Evolutions in Let's Go Pikachu & Let's Go Eevee, Plenty of Pokémon have access to Galar especially with the expansion for Sword & Shield, Hisui welcomes Pokémon that aren't native to Sinnoh in Legends Arceus, Paldea & the expansion welcomed more Pokémon back in Scarlet & Violet and soon more Pokémon like Furfrou return thanks to Legends Z-A. There literally are games and regions Pokémon have access to on the Switch. They don't need to be in a single game when they can shine properly in a game that matches them more. It just isn't realistic to demand for 1k+ Pokémon to live in a single region. Soon we will have 2k species as gen 10 will introduce more, gen 11 will introduce more and so on.
The whole "gambling" in pokemon argument is fking dumb and a non-issue. If its so bad then better get rid of all gumball machines and capsule machines with the little toys in them too
To me, the regions feel more realistic without a National Pokédex, import & export aside, one doesn't expect to find all Pokémon species ever including all their forms within a single region. But it also is just getting a bit much, the National Pokédex has gotten past the number of 1k, even more Pokémon species will join that number. So it just couldn't last forever, even with the removal of Pokédex entries. So many Pokémon did not have a Pokédex entry in gen 7. To me the National Pokédex phase out was already happening before Sword & Shield, with the removal of non in region Pokémon Pokédex entries. + the Pokédex had been split in gen 6 & gen 7 but hey. I don't mind a local Pokédex of 400 or 500 to 600 personally. Especially since the current system has a game for each and soon more will be able to access at least one game. But that's just my own thinking and opinion + observation
Another day of asking you to make a best team for every non gen 9 starter in Scarlet and Violet, I know you said that you made the last best team for that game but I feel it'd be interesting while trying to not use repeats. With the base game and the Teal Mask there are a lot of good options, and you can very easily breed the other starters for a new game.
Having every single Pokemon in the game is not a realistically possible expectation, especially seeing how there are +1000 different creatures by now. It would take way too much time, space and resources to port them every single time and would make the games way too heavy as well. Simply put, there's a reason why not other feanchise ever did this and they always cut creatures every single game.
I’ve been saying that since that whole thing kicked off. If people want all the mon, all the regions, etc, Pokémon would need to come out with a console
@@toumabyakuya most likely yeah, something of that scale would be like a last hoorah. Even then, people would try to find something they don’t like about it though like “game is too long, filling the dex is too much of a slog, and the story takes forever.”
I remember what happened when Ash lost the Kalos League. You REALLY had to be there to get the full impact, it was like a 19-year-long story slagging those who had watched it in the most insulting way possible. In hindsight, it's more small fries when compared to some of the other controversies, but for me, while I still watched the anime, I was never able to get over the feeling that he should have won, which made me really look back on the entire series (as in ALL 25 seasons) years later and realize several problems with the anime that I hadn't noticed before. So I guess, if I can give Ash's loss some credit, it's that it was my moment of "growing up" and realizing that this series had far more problems than I had realized.
It wasn't insulting at all, it was very well executed. First Alain was given the correct amount of setup for being able to beat Ash. Then the type matchup comes into play: Ash-Greninja's attacks were being weakened by Zard's Dargon-type, meaning that instead of being Super Effective, they were regular damage. All in all, it was better setup than Tobias was.
@@toumabyakuya True, Alain was set up to face Ash (and very well too), but in the case of your second point, it should be noted that type match-ups have rarely ever factored into the anime's Pokémon battles. Most characters utilise quick-thinking and legitimate strategies more often than they use type effectiveness, and in addition, opposing Trainers have engaged in such mockery of the type mechanics before, such as when Cress's Panpour defeated Ash's Pikachu back in Unova. Furthermore, before the battle against Alain, Ash-Greninja had taken down Sawyer's Mega Sceptile, which as a Grass/Dragon Type had a DOUBLE resistance against Greninja. If he was able to beat a Mega Sceptile, then he should have been able to beat a Mega Charizard X, which is a Fire/Dragon type, and therefore, the Water Shuriken should have done regular damage to it, as you have mentioned above. In addition, the loss doesn't even make sense story-wise as despite the Kalos League loss being meant to emulate Ash's losses in Johto and Hoenn, which were pretty well received, this one got an incredibly vitriolic response from the fanbase. However, Johto and Hoenn happened early on in the series, so he had less experience. By the time of Kalos, the SIXTH league he participated in, he should have gained enough experience to defeat Alain instead of losing in a very contrived way. And to be honest, not only did I see his Kalos loss coming from a mile away, but I predicted the fan reaction to a T. Regardless of how well-written or executed said loss would be, it was going to be hated, and not unreasonably either. Finally, Ash's Kalos league loss (along with his losses in Sinnoh and Unova) point to an altogether more glaring factor - it didn't teach him anything. When he lost the Indigo League, it was because of extenuating circumstances, but it was also because he didn't train hard enough, which stuck and he learned from. When he lost at the Silver and Ever Grande Conferences, he was going up against fully-evolved and stronger Pokémon (in fact, it was a testament to his skills that he came so close to beating them in the first place), and that he was placing too much faith in his Pokémon's abilities alone-a fact that was picked apart a thousand times over before it sunk in that it was holding Ash back, which is part of what made him beating Paul so satisfying. By comparison, his losses in Sinnoh (to Tobias), Unova (to Cameron) and Kalos (to Alain) didn't teach him anything invaluable to his growth as a character, and felt like a contrived way to keep him from winning a championship. Because, ultimately, what lesson is there to learn from losing to someone who you had no chance of beating from the start, or someone who snatches victory away in a sheer stroke of pure dumb luck? TLDR, there are legitimate grievances for the way people reacted to Ash losing the Kalos League, and those grievances were the result of years of mistakes and errors being made that culminated in the biggest one that they could have ever made. The only consolation is that Ash DID win the next League in Alola... and even THAT can be seen as an apology for what happened on August 18, 2016.
@@terancetan5503 *"it should be noted that type match-ups have rarely ever factored into the anime's Pokémon battles."* That wasn't my point. My point was that Zard wasn't being hurt as badly as people thought he was thanks to his Dragon type. *"If he was able to beat a Mega Sceptile, then he should have been able to beat a Mega Charizard X, which is a Fire/Dragon type, and therefore, the Water Shuriken should have done regular damage to it,"* That's not how this works. Zard could easily have been in another level compared to Sceptile, something that does make sense after you see the kind of opponents it had prior to facing Ash in the finals.
@@terancetan5503 *"this one got an incredibly vitriolic response from the fanbase."* An exaggerated one at that. *"By the time of Kalos, the SIXTH league he participated in, he should have gained enough experience to defeat Alain instead of losing in a very contrived way."* You are forcing your logic here. This being his sixth league doesn't have to mean that he's forced to win it. Especially when (excluding Pikachu) he always had a new team every single time.
@@terancetan5503 *"and felt like a contrived way to keep him from winning a championship."* I will give you both Cameron and Tobias, but that's not the case for Alain. *"Because, ultimately, what lesson is there to learn from losing to someone who you had no chance of beating from the start, or someone who snatches victory away in a sheer stroke of pure dumb luck?"* This only fits Tobias and Cameron, not Alain.
And the most annoying and the most toxic moment what happened to pokémon are religious evangelicals slandered the game by calling it satanic which is xenophobic
Thats not even the funny part the nightly news played the same seen also most of them were just them were over reactions and the effect was not anything new it was very common in a lot of anime for the time
The most controversies in Pokémon franchise is, Tobias. This feel like Pokémon Company pull an action replay back from Pokémon Diamond and Pearl anime because, the writers are made a dumb move to make Ash lose is pretty messed-up. The theory is, What is Tobias's origin?
The ppl who complain abt tobias are weird. He caught legendaries, why is that so bad? Ash has a abnormally strong pikachu but ur mad at a guy who caught legends?
Dude if you’re not epileptic it doesn’t affect you. I can view your screenshots that you were pretending hurt your eyes just fine. Hell I can even watch the flash effect in full speed. If you’re going to do this you’ve got to be honest. Why do you even feel it necessary to over exaggerate how a red screenshot affects your eyes? wtf dude for real
Uhm he shows screenshots instead because that is safer, you can look up the actual episode to view the scene as it is available with subtitles. So unless you want a youtuber to get in trouble with Google, youtube etc, you have to respect the editing decision that was made concerning a triggering scene
Fun fact about Electric Soldier Porygon, the controversy and fallout of that episode caused the law in Japan to be changed that any films or anime with a lot of flashing lights need to be dimmed or reduced. If you’re an avid anime watcher you’ve probably noticed scenes during fights where the screen just becomes dimmer, well this is why
and dragon ball got tamed
It was huge in stuff like My Hero, I honestly used to think my TV wasn’t working right lol
Fun fact about Porygon's anime appearances: it most recently made an appearance in Pokemon Horizons!
Which episode? I didn't see it.
Why did have to appear post Ketchum? I personally prefer The og anime, and I don’t really like the new one. Maybe I’m biased.
@@yeseniaadames4389 I heard the new one is pretty good, and it is good from what I've seen. But I'm with you on preferring the OG anime, even if it has a lot of flaws, and I also understand why - replacing a story that has gone on for 25 years, even if the new one is of high quality, is going to be a tough sell because the OG version is so ubiquitous and iconic that it's the first thing that comes to people's mind when someone says "Pokémon". If you ask me, I don't think Liko and Roy will EVER replace Ash, no matter how good their story is or how much The Pokémon Company tries to push them.
Wrong. Porygon has not appeared in Horizons yet
@@ChrisPTY507 I swore, I saw an image of Liko with three Porygon.
That last one is absolutely nuts. I'm surprised he didn't try to sue Nintendo to prevent them from using Kadabra anywhere else.
Here’s a controversy from the Anime: Jynx’s original appearance lol
I mean, it was only controversial here because we associated it with racism, where in Japan Jynx’s appearance is based off of fashion of the time
@@joshuab4586true and speaking for myself I’ve never considered or saw it negatively
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Damn over 600 kids ended up in the hospital when they watched the Porygon episode? That’s insane and I wonder why the animators didn’t remove the red light
It was the blue and red strobing effect that was flashing way too fast. That was the real problem. 😢
@@johncosco2348 Yeah I know but I’m surprised so many people ended up in the hospital since I thought only a few people ended up in the hospital
Why do they even create those scenes without safety testing?
@@rainbowdragon168 Eh, the number is actually overblown and most kids that went to the hospital only had a headache and/or nausea, the effect wasn't _that_ huge.
Eugenics
I get the "recall" for the Pokeball being a choking hazard, but like everything else... are you kidding me!!! The fact that there are other toys that are still around that could also be classified as a choking hazard that haven't been recalled? How about don't let your damn child put a BALL in their mouth.
Exactly
Yeah if that happens then, frankly, it's the parent's fault for not keeping a closer eye on their kid or making sure potentially dangerous toys were kept out of reach
Poor porygon
It wasn’t it fault it was pikachu
What made the loss at the Kalos League even more painful was that, during the subsequent Team Flare arc, they released the first look at the Sun and Moon anime series with the new artstyle and the more comedic tone and people were PISSED. I'm honestly surprised THAT wasn't included after the Kalos League bit.
At any other time, that reveal would have generated some trepidation but, in the midst of all the League hype and during one of the best villain arcs of the anime's history, many felt like TPC were actively insulting them.
In later years, some people have warmed to Sun and Moon (me included) but, at the time, the blowback was incredible.
Kadabra also stopped appearing in the anime for over 16 years, it’s last appearance in the main series was in 2006
Only issue I remember that pops up, is the kadabra line, and recently the magician took the lawsuit thing down and the abra line was fixed
That's correct. It even appeared in a Pokémon web anime episode after the controversy ended.
Yuri Geller was also responsible for banning Kadabra in the anime, and it didn't make an appearance until the Pokémon Evolutions episode "The Show"
Make a video on your whole pokemon journey on
how you got attached to this series. Would love to hear!
How did Gary get 10 kento badges when there was only meant to 8
The anime has established that each region has more than eight Gyms.
Oh yeah they really should've mentioned stuff like that
Feels like there were plenty other moments like that that didn't get listed
@@wikiuser92 True. Even Ash got a 'different' badge in Unova, along with other gyms being featured (granted to fit in the Unova 2 games, but still)
To be fair Kadabara’s anime debut didn’t exactly show him in a good light…
At the time I was OK with ash losing the Kalo league only because it wasn't his home region. The battle was epic though. However, when the Team Flare arc happens it was ash leading the charge all the way. And Allan even when he realized he was a pawn in Lysandre's scheme it was Ash, ASH, who had to remind him that Allan could be redeemed. This was when I realized that the win should have gone to ash.
As great as the battle was I cannot in good conscience re-watch the battle now because of the loss.
If anything, it makes Ash's victory in Alola sweeter because in each episode Alola was made to be Ash's temporary home thanks to living with professor Kukui.
I was hoping this video would cover the controversies that were not already discussed into the ground. If you make a part two of this, please look for more original and lesser known controversies of which there are actually plenty.
It doesn't make sense to have every mon in every generation
It's better to focus on the new mons in each game
Nah fam
@@BigDaddyRich69 That's your big argument?.
I personally stand by the sinnoh league loss being worse then the kalos league loss because in kalos ash had 3 flying types which get hurt hard by a good rock or electric type noivern for as much as I love the pokemon as a whole was just awful meanwhile in sinnoh ash had a well balanced team and was using some of his older pokemon once again I swear Tobias was only there because the writers had to make ash lose somehow
IIRC, an anime staff member who worked on the Sinnoh League hated Tobias too.
@@wikiuser92 the worst part about Tobias is he is never seen from again not even a cameo in journey's
@@vulpixle9659 True, but Ash technically does acknowledge his existence with an indirect reference in one episode of Journeys.
@@wikiuser92 which episode was that?
@@dethtroy2185 Episode 74. Goh asks Ash if he's seen a Darkrai before, and Ash mentions that it's strong in battle.
This is way we never see porygon 2 and z in the anime because of that episode
I saw this fan art of a fake screenshot of Porygon appearing in Horizons.
Would there be any actual controversy if Porygon actually reappeared in the anime?
Not sure, but as much I hope it'd reappear, it's not likely at this point.
When I was in middle school and I watched the Xy anime I remembered being so pissed when ash lost hell I'm still am now
you think thats bad im still pissed about the johto leage lol
People blew Ash’s loss to Alain way out of proportion
you can't blame them with the sheer amount of hype they created and then failing to deliver, that's was the XY/Z saga's biggest flaw, too much hype and no payout.
@@dethtroy2185 I get it and the hype backlash was somewhat deserved for the baiting titles however people were acting as if XY and XYZ were the worst seasons in the franchise’s history and while I didn’t like that Ash lost again but I understood why Alain was actually like Paul built up to be one his most powerful rivals he’s ever went up against and it wasn’t a bullshit lost freakin Tobias or Cameron aka Mr. I brought 5 Pokémon to a league battle and still won
@@dayvonlouis5187 it was more than just the title though, think about Ash-Greninja using what looked like a Destructo Disk in the preview that amounted to nothing either.
I'm not gonna disagree that his loss to Alain in general wasn't that bad (compared to Tobias and Cameron) but still it was just the overhyping of the situation which is why people got as angry as they did, and it does feel justified. You and I might not get as mad as other people, but you can't stop them from getting angry.
@@dethtroy2185 I know I can’t people can’t help but feel how they do but to condemn the entire series is just something I found to be nonsensical as if that one loss invalidated the entire XY series they mostly even ignored the actual climax of the story and if I remember correctly my UA-cam video feed was filled with nothing but ranting videos about it and nothing else I even had to think man I get that you’re mad but to be THAT mad was unexpected
@@dayvonlouis5187 oh i remember that day myself, it was crazy, some think that the wrath of the fans that day is why Ash won the alola league...
Hey Mystic I was wondering if you'll ever do your top favorite Pokemon creepypasta in the future
Nah XY anime was written terribly and can barely be considered a pokemon series, it's genuinely disrespectful. If Ash won, that might have been the final nail in the coffin. Meanwhile BW was overall the perfect continuation that took the story into consideration and followed through very well, despite its mishandling of TR for most of BW.
I know this is a VERY hot take but i really dont want all the pokemon in a single game. I feel like it fits a region to not have every pokemon. Like you wouldnt be able to find a mountain lion in africa or Asia so why should you find every pokemon every region. I think it also makes it more special to see something you Haven’t seen in a while. Like seeing an old friend.
Because u can get on a plane and see any animal. It needs to be accessible in game. Nobody needs to be punished and cant get their fav pokemon because of where they live. HORRIBLE TAKE
@@darronwilliams4641 The 4 first gens have full access to Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl, You can bring Alolan forms into Kanto of the Kanto Pokémon + use their Mega Evolutions in Let's Go Pikachu & Let's Go Eevee, Plenty of Pokémon have access to Galar especially with the expansion for Sword & Shield, Hisui welcomes Pokémon that aren't native to Sinnoh in Legends Arceus, Paldea & the expansion welcomed more Pokémon back in Scarlet & Violet and soon more Pokémon like Furfrou return thanks to Legends Z-A. There literally are games and regions Pokémon have access to on the Switch. They don't need to be in a single game when they can shine properly in a game that matches them more. It just isn't realistic to demand for 1k+ Pokémon to live in a single region. Soon we will have 2k species as gen 10 will introduce more, gen 11 will introduce more and so on.
I do recall several of these. Another being the dub change when 4Kids lost the rights to Pokémon
The whole "gambling" in pokemon argument is fking dumb and a non-issue. If its so bad then better get rid of all gumball machines and capsule machines with the little toys in them too
The background of your videos makes me think of a Tera Stellar Mask for Ogerpon 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
To me, the regions feel more realistic without a National Pokédex, import & export aside, one doesn't expect to find all Pokémon species ever including all their forms within a single region. But it also is just getting a bit much, the National Pokédex has gotten past the number of 1k, even more Pokémon species will join that number. So it just couldn't last forever, even with the removal of Pokédex entries. So many Pokémon did not have a Pokédex entry in gen 7. To me the National Pokédex phase out was already happening before Sword & Shield, with the removal of non in region Pokémon Pokédex entries. + the Pokédex had been split in gen 6 & gen 7 but hey. I don't mind a local Pokédex of 400 or 500 to 600 personally. Especially since the current system has a game for each and soon more will be able to access at least one game. But that's just my own thinking and opinion + observation
My headcannon for the Ash vs. Alan battle is all down to Greninja swapping Cut for Night Slash. Relearning Night Slash would have won the battle.
The ones I thought would be here were the lavender town music and the jynx blackface tbh
I remember the day Ash lost to Alain.... i swear the community did not recover to this day
Geller only apologized in order to promote his museum. He's a grifter
Better than nothing, though.
@@wikiuser92 yeap
What?.
@@toumabyakuya look it up
@@toumabyakuya They meant to say "Geller".
Kadabra wasn't just banned from the games but also from the anime, along with Porygon
Even Jynx got to make future appearances due to a design change
Bruh i forgot how burgerking use to have good toys with there kids meal back in the day
There's the controvery about Jynx's oringal design should have been mentioned.
Another day of asking you to make a best team for every non gen 9 starter in Scarlet and Violet, I know you said that you made the last best team for that game but I feel it'd be interesting while trying to not use repeats. With the base game and the Teal Mask there are a lot of good options, and you can very easily breed the other starters for a new game.
Having every single Pokemon in the game is not a realistically possible expectation, especially seeing how there are +1000 different creatures by now. It would take way too much time, space and resources to port them every single time and would make the games way too heavy as well. Simply put, there's a reason why not other feanchise ever did this and they always cut creatures every single game.
I’ve been saying that since that whole thing kicked off. If people want all the mon, all the regions, etc, Pokémon would need to come out with a console
@@assassinviii6477 And to get all regions said game would have to be the last game they ever made.
@@toumabyakuya most likely yeah, something of that scale would be like a last hoorah. Even then, people would try to find something they don’t like about it though like “game is too long, filling the dex is too much of a slog, and the story takes forever.”
7/10 too much water level stuff
When will we get the next episode of road to be a pokemon master❤
Ash not winning the kalos ruins the epic battle for me, the only thing that comes closer is Tobias in the sinnoh league
NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!
To honest ash should have won the league in kalos
I remember what happened when Ash lost the Kalos League. You REALLY had to be there to get the full impact, it was like a 19-year-long story slagging those who had watched it in the most insulting way possible. In hindsight, it's more small fries when compared to some of the other controversies, but for me, while I still watched the anime, I was never able to get over the feeling that he should have won, which made me really look back on the entire series (as in ALL 25 seasons) years later and realize several problems with the anime that I hadn't noticed before. So I guess, if I can give Ash's loss some credit, it's that it was my moment of "growing up" and realizing that this series had far more problems than I had realized.
It wasn't insulting at all, it was very well executed. First Alain was given the correct amount of setup for being able to beat Ash. Then the type matchup comes into play: Ash-Greninja's attacks were being weakened by Zard's Dargon-type, meaning that instead of being Super Effective, they were regular damage.
All in all, it was better setup than Tobias was.
@@toumabyakuya True, Alain was set up to face Ash (and very well too), but in the case of your second point, it should be noted that type match-ups have rarely ever factored into the anime's Pokémon battles. Most characters utilise quick-thinking and legitimate strategies more often than they use type effectiveness, and in addition, opposing Trainers have engaged in such mockery of the type mechanics before, such as when Cress's Panpour defeated Ash's Pikachu back in Unova. Furthermore, before the battle against Alain, Ash-Greninja had taken down Sawyer's Mega Sceptile, which as a Grass/Dragon Type had a DOUBLE resistance against Greninja. If he was able to beat a Mega Sceptile, then he should have been able to beat a Mega Charizard X, which is a Fire/Dragon type, and therefore, the Water Shuriken should have done regular damage to it, as you have mentioned above.
In addition, the loss doesn't even make sense story-wise as despite the Kalos League loss being meant to emulate Ash's losses in Johto and Hoenn, which were pretty well received, this one got an incredibly vitriolic response from the fanbase. However, Johto and Hoenn happened early on in the series, so he had less experience. By the time of Kalos, the SIXTH league he participated in, he should have gained enough experience to defeat Alain instead of losing in a very contrived way. And to be honest, not only did I see his Kalos loss coming from a mile away, but I predicted the fan reaction to a T. Regardless of how well-written or executed said loss would be, it was going to be hated, and not unreasonably either.
Finally, Ash's Kalos league loss (along with his losses in Sinnoh and Unova) point to an altogether more glaring factor - it didn't teach him anything. When he lost the Indigo League, it was because of extenuating circumstances, but it was also because he didn't train hard enough, which stuck and he learned from. When he lost at the
Silver and Ever Grande Conferences, he was going up against fully-evolved and stronger Pokémon (in fact, it was a testament to his skills that he came so close to beating them in the first place), and that he was placing too much faith in his Pokémon's abilities alone-a fact that was picked apart a thousand times over before it sunk in that it was holding Ash back, which is part of what made him beating Paul so satisfying. By comparison, his losses in Sinnoh (to Tobias), Unova (to Cameron) and Kalos (to Alain) didn't teach him anything invaluable to his growth as a character, and felt like a contrived way to keep him from winning a championship. Because, ultimately, what lesson is there to learn from losing to someone who you had no chance of beating from the start, or someone who snatches victory away in a sheer stroke of pure dumb luck?
TLDR, there are legitimate grievances for the way people reacted to Ash losing the Kalos League, and those grievances were the result of years of mistakes and errors being made that culminated in the biggest one that they could have ever made. The only consolation is that Ash DID win the next League in Alola... and even THAT can be seen as an apology for what happened on August 18, 2016.
@@terancetan5503 *"it should be noted that type match-ups have rarely ever factored into the anime's Pokémon battles."*
That wasn't my point. My point was that Zard wasn't being hurt as badly as people thought he was thanks to his Dragon type.
*"If he was able to beat a Mega Sceptile, then he should have been able to beat a Mega Charizard X, which is a Fire/Dragon type, and therefore, the Water Shuriken should have done regular damage to it,"*
That's not how this works. Zard could easily have been in another level compared to Sceptile, something that does make sense after you see the kind of opponents it had prior to facing Ash in the finals.
@@terancetan5503 *"this one got an incredibly vitriolic response from the fanbase."*
An exaggerated one at that.
*"By the time of Kalos, the SIXTH league he participated in, he should have gained enough experience to defeat Alain instead of losing in a very contrived way."*
You are forcing your logic here. This being his sixth league doesn't have to mean that he's forced to win it. Especially when (excluding Pikachu) he always had a new team every single time.
@@terancetan5503 *"and felt like a contrived way to keep him from winning a championship."*
I will give you both Cameron and Tobias, but that's not the case for Alain.
*"Because, ultimately, what lesson is there to learn from losing to someone who you had no chance of beating from the start, or someone who snatches victory away in a sheer stroke of pure dumb luck?"*
This only fits Tobias and Cameron, not Alain.
Let's not forget the time people thought Pokémon was satanic for a while until Pope John Paul II give his blessing to the series on November 8th, 2000
I remember all of these
I was involved in Pokémon since it came to the US and I was obvious to all of it lol
Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video
And the most annoying and the most toxic moment what happened to pokémon are religious evangelicals slandered the game by calling it satanic which is xenophobic
Thats not even the funny part the nightly news played the same seen also most of them were just them were over reactions and the effect was not anything new it was very common in a lot of anime for the time
Where's the pokemon go controversies
The most controversies in Pokémon franchise is, Tobias. This feel like Pokémon Company pull an action replay back from Pokémon Diamond and Pearl anime because, the writers are made a dumb move to make Ash lose is pretty messed-up. The theory is, What is Tobias's origin?
The ppl who complain abt tobias are weird. He caught legendaries, why is that so bad?
Ash has a abnormally strong pikachu but ur mad at a guy who caught legends?
Dude if you’re not epileptic it doesn’t affect you. I can view your screenshots that you were pretending hurt your eyes just fine. Hell I can even watch the flash effect in full speed. If you’re going to do this you’ve got to be honest. Why do you even feel it necessary to over exaggerate how a red screenshot affects your eyes? wtf dude for real
Uhm he shows screenshots instead because that is safer, you can look up the actual episode to view the scene as it is available with subtitles. So unless you want a youtuber to get in trouble with Google, youtube etc, you have to respect the editing decision that was made concerning a triggering scene
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Blue shell (possibly)
Definitely cause bots don't count