I understand the high cost for the finish itself, being that it contains UV-cured additives and of course the company should make a profit. But $700 for a high-output, rechargeable flashlight is just taking advantage of customers that don't know better. UV LEDs have been around quite a while. Even their marketing materials show they are trying to make it seem mysterious - calling it LED cure and whatnot. It's UV cured. The actual bulb technology doesn't matter. Just my two cents (maybe I should charge a couple hundred).
I agree with you. The guy at Highline Guitar used a similar product to finish a guitar body. He just exposed the guitar finish to the sun a couple of minutes and it was fully cure. Not sure it's the same product but I certainely question the price of the flashlight!!! Anyway, thank you jon for sharing this video. ua-cam.com/video/3Pbz7afYzCg/v-deo.html (product name is Solarez)
This was informative, especially for using using this product for 5 weeks. I still have questions. You mentioned the pros to using it, but how durable is it? Are there different options for sheens? Is it compatible with all stains? And will it hold another product if its redone down the line? Can you do touchups with it? Has anyone in the comment's bought amd used Vesting?
Hello Mr. Peters, I greet you from Nicaragua. I admire their work and advice, a pity that in our long-suffering country we could not make our dreams come true. God bless you and your nation.
I’ve been using a UV-activated clear product for tying flies for fishing for several months now. I was wondering why something like this wasn’t available for wood finishing. The price on the light seems to be prohibitive, but the advantages to a production shop are clear.
I recently saw a product very similar to this called " chimiver" same system to be honest. Their light is 1000 bucks. Their floor curing light is 15k, which is insane😮 I wonder how this compares to rubio for durability and longevity🤔
how special can that UV light really be to make it worth $600?? Would be curious to see if it could cure with a standard UV light that would be cured with more common UV cure resins.
Great video! Very informative! I would be interested to learn more how this compares to other finishes like rubio from a durability and appeal perspective. Thank you!
So it looks like a UV light, but it's not UV just a special LED? If they come to your shop I'd love to learn more about the product and process, and how this light works to cure the finish without requiring safety glasses to protect your eyes from the emitted light. Neat product.
I see no one actually answered you. I’m not from the company but I have many years experience with LED curing. The answer is essentially yes but with possible drawbacks. It will take more time to cure under UV but it can. There are many factors to account for: quality of light, intensity, duration, dispersion etc. that will ultimately determine whether the finish will cure properly and fully. I wouldn’t advise taking a piece and sticking it outside to cure under direct sunlight due to the likelihood of dust, dirt, debris particles making its way onto the surface of the finish before it is fully cured. Overall, I’d say UV *could* work but it would come with risks and unknowns.
Crazy awesome technologies out there Bud!! Nothing on a scale this sophisticated but, Ange has this small LED UV light that dries the epoxy on her pens in 30 secs.!! It's pretty cool. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
Saying that something can be cured with LED light is saying almost nothing. What kind light is it? UV? What intensity is required? Is it really safe to be using with no protective eyewear?
Very interesting product Jon. If one were going for that type of finish, that process would sure cut down on the time that it takes to finish a project! Nice....... 👍👍😉😉
Hi Everyone! Listen to my friends Rob and Jeff talk about the history of American furniture on the American Craftsman Podcast open.spotify.com/show/67YjNZ9ziPmpemgaK3CZMZ podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-american-craftsman-podcast/id1532155091
I’m going to guess that’s a special UV LED light? So I can’t take the one off my front lawn and Use it to dry this finish? Always enjoy the videos. Even as a hobbyist I wouldn’t mind investing in the system as long as the wife okays it.
This is a bit of a side, but for my fingernails I have UV lamp that dries special paint/gels quickly. I wondered if that would work. They run 30-100$ which is a lot cheaper than 700!
Jon, do you know how those guys handle at GSJ handle finishing from the aspect that there are 2-3 other guys building furniture in there as well & how the mitigate dust on finishing says (IE do they schedule a “finishing day” in the shop where no power tools are to be used thus keeping airborne particulates to a minimum, etc..?) Also I’m curious what makes an established furniture maker decide to stop using what they currently are if they aren’t having issues. I think I picked up that a distributor came to their shop & demonstrated the product so that very well could have been the impetus but 1.) that’s a big leap for a maker to make & 2.) that’s a big capital investment with even that small light. Anyway, awesome video & amazing technology!
Thanks Joshua, Jeff and Rob at Greene Street don’t spray lacquer ( a very fast drying finish ) so slower drying finishes like an oil wax finish can slow down production. The nice thing about this finish is it doesn’t stink up the shop and once it’s hit with the light they can continue to work and make sawdust
May or may not work, can be a different wavelength required for curing. Also even their handheld light has a cooling fan, so I'd say it's pretty powerful.
That's not an LED hardening finish, that's called a UV light. UV is incredibly bad for your skin, and eyes. Same stuff we've been using in the 3D printing space for years essentially.
I have never been impressed with those types of finishes and that one doesn't impress me either, there just is no sheen and they don't hold up on high use surfaces
They’re Norwegian…. No I mean “Danish, from Holland.” Close! 🤣 Lol thanks for the laugh guys! (“Dutch” is what you were trying to think of.)
I understand the high cost for the finish itself, being that it contains UV-cured additives and of course the company should make a profit. But $700 for a high-output, rechargeable flashlight is just taking advantage of customers that don't know better. UV LEDs have been around quite a while. Even their marketing materials show they are trying to make it seem mysterious - calling it LED cure and whatnot. It's UV cured. The actual bulb technology doesn't matter. Just my two cents (maybe I should charge a couple hundred).
I agree with you. The guy at Highline Guitar used a similar product to finish a guitar body. He just exposed the guitar finish to the sun a couple of minutes and it was fully cure. Not sure it's the same product but I certainely question the price of the flashlight!!! Anyway, thank you jon for sharing this video.
ua-cam.com/video/3Pbz7afYzCg/v-deo.html (product name is Solarez)
This was informative, especially for using using this product for 5 weeks. I still have questions. You mentioned the pros to using it, but how durable is it? Are there different options for sheens? Is it compatible with all stains? And will it hold another product if its redone down the line? Can you do touchups with it?
Has anyone in the comment's bought amd used Vesting?
Hello Mr. Peters, I greet you from Nicaragua. I admire their work and advice, a pity that in our long-suffering country we could not make our dreams come true. God bless you and your nation.
Thank you!
I’ve been using a UV-activated clear product for tying flies for fishing for several months now. I was wondering why something like this wasn’t available for wood finishing. The price on the light seems to be prohibitive, but the advantages to a production shop are clear.
Depending on the UV wavelength, you may want to get some UV filtering glasses.
I recently saw a product very similar to this called " chimiver" same system to be honest. Their light is 1000 bucks. Their floor curing light is 15k, which is insane😮 I wonder how this compares to rubio for durability and longevity🤔
SO COOL! Love the Greene Street guys! I literally just recommended this to our finishing department after listening to their podcast.
I like that the wood color still looks natural
The price is outrageous
Love to see a new product and a Peters Greene St collaboration! Thanks for sharing
I love the idea of an instant finish, but $150 a can? Not for the weekend hobbyist.
how special can that UV light really be to make it worth $600?? Would be curious to see if it could cure with a standard UV light that would be cured with more common UV cure resins.
Wow!!! That's Awesome!!! The stuff that ppl are coming up with these days!!!! Thanks Jon!!!! Thanks Jeff!!! 😲👍😎🤔🙏😃
I wonder how this would work on hardwood floors
Great video! Very informative! I would be interested to learn more how this compares to other finishes like rubio from a durability and appeal perspective. Thank you!
So it looks like a UV light, but it's not UV just a special LED? If they come to your shop I'd love to learn more about the product and process, and how this light works to cure the finish without requiring safety glasses to protect your eyes from the emitted light. Neat product.
How does it hold up to heavy wear like a table or desk top? Water rings? Alcohol spills? Dings?
is it safe to think this finish would cure if exposed to daylight..?
I see no one actually answered you. I’m not from the company but I have many years experience with LED curing. The answer is essentially yes but with possible drawbacks. It will take more time to cure under UV but it can. There are many factors to account for: quality of light, intensity, duration, dispersion etc. that will ultimately determine whether the finish will cure properly and fully. I wouldn’t advise taking a piece and sticking it outside to cure under direct sunlight due to the likelihood of dust, dirt, debris particles making its way onto the surface of the finish before it is fully cured. Overall, I’d say UV *could* work but it would come with risks and unknowns.
@@MURPHxiii Thank You.
Crazy awesome technologies out there Bud!! Nothing on a scale this sophisticated but, Ange has this small LED UV light that dries the epoxy on her pens in 30 secs.!! It's pretty cool. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
How does this stand up against Rubio monocoat?
Saying that something can be cured with LED light is saying almost nothing. What kind light is it? UV? What intensity is required? Is it really safe to be using with no protective eyewear?
Try googling it
Interesting...I guess changes/improvements are to be expected even with finishes and applications.
Very interesting product Jon. If one were going for that type of finish, that process would sure cut down on the time that it takes to finish a project! Nice....... 👍👍😉😉
Would it be an issue using this finish if your shop is lit with LED lights?
I'm a regular viewer! Thanks for the content!
Would it be recommended for a wooden floor?
Wow, thanks for sharing John!
That is pretty slick!
Is it safe for eyes?
Hi Everyone! Listen to my friends Rob and Jeff talk about the history of American furniture on the American Craftsman Podcast
open.spotify.com/show/67YjNZ9ziPmpemgaK3CZMZ
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-american-craftsman-podcast/id1532155091
I’m going to guess that’s a special UV LED light? So I can’t take the one off my front lawn and Use it to dry this finish? Always enjoy the videos. Even as a hobbyist I wouldn’t mind investing in the system as long as the wife okays it.
I think a normal LED light won’t have enough UV, but there are good options for industrial UV LED, used for curing.
This is a bit of a side, but for my fingernails I have UV lamp that dries special paint/gels quickly. I wondered if that would work. They run 30-100$ which is a lot cheaper than 700!
They say "Do not let the LED HardWax Oil come in contact with direct sunlight as it will cure and cannot be changed after that." on the website.
Jon, do you know how those guys handle at GSJ handle finishing from the aspect that there are 2-3 other guys building furniture in there as well & how the mitigate dust on finishing says (IE do they schedule a “finishing day” in the shop where no power tools are to be used thus keeping airborne particulates to a minimum, etc..?)
Also I’m curious what makes an established furniture maker decide to stop using what they currently are if they aren’t having issues. I think I picked up that a distributor came to their shop & demonstrated the product so that very well could have been the impetus but 1.) that’s a big leap for a maker to make & 2.) that’s a big capital investment with even that small light.
Anyway, awesome video & amazing technology!
Thanks Joshua, Jeff and Rob at Greene Street don’t spray lacquer ( a very fast drying finish ) so slower drying finishes like an oil wax finish can slow down production. The nice thing about this finish is it doesn’t stink up the shop and once it’s hit with the light they can continue to work and make sawdust
Does this product come in matte, satin, gloss?
Not Danish, Dutch ;-)
You think it wouldn't give the liquid enough time to seap into the wood.
So the website doesn't work anymore
Hahahahah Danish from Holland , hey who is the president of Usa ?
I would bet a 30$ uv light would also work with this finish
May or may not work, can be a different wavelength required for curing. Also even their handheld light has a cooling fan, so I'd say it's pretty powerful.
It's a Norwegian company, no it's not Norwegian.... it's Danish! So anyway, they're a finishing company out in Holland!? LOL!
That's some Skynet 💩 right there😳
That's not an LED hardening finish, that's called a UV light. UV is incredibly bad for your skin, and eyes. Same stuff we've been using in the 3D printing space for years essentially.
too bad this isn't available
It is… Just under new ownership do a Google search for it or check out Greene Street Joinery’s website I think they have a link
@@JonPetersArtHome yep, rebranded and not shipping but maybe in another decade .. lol
nice job！ nice job！
If necessary, you can cooperate with us, we are a professional UV curing equipment factory
I have never been impressed with those types of finishes and that one doesn't impress me either, there just is no sheen and they don't hold up on high use surfaces
Sorry, he thinks that people from Holland are Danish?!?!????
,..and your Hat is on backward!
nice job！ nice job！
If necessary, you can cooperate with us, we are a professional UV curing equipment factory